I heard they were expensive, but I didn't hear they "bankrupted" the show. I'm sure P&G wouldn't have allowed that, considering how budget conscience they were. I think P&G just wanted out. There's a great interview with Victoria Whyndam online and she talks more about P&G just wanting to get out of the business and AW was their lowest rated show at the time. We saw what happened a few years later (GL and ATWT).
Vicky Wyndham didn't want Justine to turn into a gargoyle (her words). She wanted Justine to be disturbed, but to tell how she became that way. Instead, TPTB just did what they could to end it quickly.
I actually loved the arrival of Justine (when she was disturbed). The change of writers and EP in the middle of the story is what affected Justine. Carolyn Cullinton was HW and Jon Valente was EP. It was then changed with Tom King and Craig Carson as HWs and JFP as EP. Jill said NBC kept wanting her to do AW like DAYS. She didn't really agree with NBC and the direction they were taking AW in. That's why they fired her. She actually brought the demographics up for AW.
I loved this storyline. It was a great time for AW. Justine and Cecile on the same show was awesome. I also loved the crazy Marley storyline and I had been watching for years.
The mid-90s were the absolute worst days for AW. Except for Judy Evans as Paulina, Victoria Wyndham was the only real redeeming feature. Once Mac & Ada had died, nothing was ever the same. Had they brought backt he Matthews family and dispensed with the other nonsense, perhaps we'd have had the REAL AW again.
I thought there was some good stuff in the mid 90's. I agree it wasnt' the same though. The end of the 90's was the worst to me. Crazy Marly kidnapping Vicki all the way to Jordan Stark and Lumina. I do agree they should have returned to the Matthews. I'm sure Jaquline Courtney would have return as Alice. They could have then brought a grown up Kevin (Sally's son) and go from there. These excutive producers forget about the fans and their ego get in the way. They want it to become "their show).
I agree. Jill did an awesome job on AW sets. They were looking bad. I think Jill did a great on AW. I liked Justine. I think if NBC had stayed out of it, it would have been better. NBC kept wanting AW to be DAYS. Even the earlier party of Justine before Jill got there was pretty good. Victoria Whyndam liked the concept at first.
Oh, the good ol' days of AW!!! Well, what were for me the good ol' days having only started watching the show in late '94. A lot of folks criticized AW in the late 90's but I tell you... this stuff holds up SO MUCH BETTER than the majority of what passes for "soap" now. Never should have been cancelled. Period.
thank you... they cancelled aw for passion and sunset beach because nbc wanted west coast shows and both of these shows had way lower ratings than aw and they too ended up being cancelled!
I agree with you. I had watched AW since the mid 70's. The mid 90's was a good time in Bay City. I enjoyed the Justine storyline very much. I know a lot of people didnt' like it, but it's one of the most memorable stories (rather good or bad). I hated the crazy Marly story they did. Now that was awful. Having Marly turn on Vickie and lock her up in a room was so out of character of Marly.
I heard they were expensive, but I didn't hear they "bankrupted" the show. I'm sure P&G wouldn't have allowed that, considering how budget conscience they were. I think P&G just wanted out. There's a great interview with Victoria Whyndam online and she talks more about P&G just wanting to get out of the business and AW was their lowest rated show at the time. We saw what happened a few years later (GL and ATWT).
verbatimmags 9 months ago
Supposedly the new sets basically bankrupted AW, so I don't know if they were worth it...
CarlD2 9 months ago
Vicky Wyndham didn't want Justine to turn into a gargoyle (her words). She wanted Justine to be disturbed, but to tell how she became that way. Instead, TPTB just did what they could to end it quickly.
eurotomm 2 years ago
I actually loved the arrival of Justine (when she was disturbed). The change of writers and EP in the middle of the story is what affected Justine. Carolyn Cullinton was HW and Jon Valente was EP. It was then changed with Tom King and Craig Carson as HWs and JFP as EP. Jill said NBC kept wanting her to do AW like DAYS. She didn't really agree with NBC and the direction they were taking AW in. That's why they fired her. She actually brought the demographics up for AW.
verbatimmags 2 years ago
I loved this storyline. It was a great time for AW. Justine and Cecile on the same show was awesome. I also loved the crazy Marley storyline and I had been watching for years.
scottyfilmbuff 3 years ago
The mid-90s were the absolute worst days for AW. Except for Judy Evans as Paulina, Victoria Wyndham was the only real redeeming feature. Once Mac & Ada had died, nothing was ever the same. Had they brought backt he Matthews family and dispensed with the other nonsense, perhaps we'd have had the REAL AW again.
wyattphx 3 years ago
I thought there was some good stuff in the mid 90's. I agree it wasnt' the same though. The end of the 90's was the worst to me. Crazy Marly kidnapping Vicki all the way to Jordan Stark and Lumina. I do agree they should have returned to the Matthews. I'm sure Jaquline Courtney would have return as Alice. They could have then brought a grown up Kevin (Sally's son) and go from there. These excutive producers forget about the fans and their ego get in the way. They want it to become "their show).
verbatimmags 3 years ago
Thank goodness Jill Farren Phelps revamped AW's production model and added all those new sets. AW was looking horribly produced before she got there.
postdebut149 3 years ago
I agree. Jill did an awesome job on AW sets. They were looking bad. I think Jill did a great on AW. I liked Justine. I think if NBC had stayed out of it, it would have been better. NBC kept wanting AW to be DAYS. Even the earlier party of Justine before Jill got there was pretty good. Victoria Whyndam liked the concept at first.
thejukejoint 3 years ago
Oh, the good ol' days of AW!!! Well, what were for me the good ol' days having only started watching the show in late '94. A lot of folks criticized AW in the late 90's but I tell you... this stuff holds up SO MUCH BETTER than the majority of what passes for "soap" now. Never should have been cancelled. Period.
GenXorcist1976 3 years ago
thank you... they cancelled aw for passion and sunset beach because nbc wanted west coast shows and both of these shows had way lower ratings than aw and they too ended up being cancelled!
tko718 3 years ago
I agree with you. I had watched AW since the mid 70's. The mid 90's was a good time in Bay City. I enjoyed the Justine storyline very much. I know a lot of people didnt' like it, but it's one of the most memorable stories (rather good or bad). I hated the crazy Marly story they did. Now that was awful. Having Marly turn on Vickie and lock her up in a room was so out of character of Marly.
verbatimmags 3 years ago
~~~Thanks, now I want to see MORE!
Nice to see Amy Carlson's *Josie*, so
hot with Tim's *Gary*.
A wonderfully 'soapy' moment...what's next??
KT613 3 years ago
I loved AW, the new sets, and I thought that Justine was fun!
chescott68 4 years ago
that justine story was ridiculous and made victoria wydham look bad
travis082185 4 years ago