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  • Daym, this was my first "real" computer that I had at home.. way back, waaaay back.

  • Hey! You stole my toaster

  • Would a 20Mhz 386 be okay for games from 1987-1991?

  • My spouse & I bought our first IBM clone in December 1988, with CGA graphics and a single floppy drive. Added a 2nd floppy drive (both 5 1/4") within the first 2 weeks, and an EGA graphics card & a hard drive (20MB) about a year later. Didn't have VGA graphics or a 3.5" floppy drive for at least another year after that, when we bought a 486 computer.

    Currently use DOSBox to run DOS games from "shovelware" CD-ROMs. There's a few games I miss that never got rereleased on CD-ROM, though. :(

  • nothing has ever been appropriate after the words "appropriateness commence"

  • I just use DOSBox to play DOS games.

  • @SamuraiClinton Hooray for people that are satisfied with emulation! I'm just not one of them, not in the least :)

  • @phreakindee I found DOSbox a pain in the ass, but I don't have a real DOS computer... I want a fast 10 Mhz 8088 or a similar speed 286, EGA graphics and maybe AdLib sound... Recommendations?

  • i got my first pc 1990 and it was an 386/25sx. Man that thing was expensive. =)

  • When I grow up, I want to have a man cave with oldschool stuff like this. NO INTERNET ALLOWED in that room.

  • your also like CGR Classic game room exept it its gameing

  • lol, good 'ol times !

    thanks for that !

  • I remember my first computer being a Philips brand. YES they did computers back it the days it seem! It was a 386 SX, 25Mhz, 4.1mb of RAM (and let me tell you the .1m more was welcome!), Sound Blaster Pro sound card, Single speed CD-Rom with 3,5" floppy drive, though i wonder what the graphics card was. It had a Datatrain 14inch CRT monitor. I still have some artifacts from that computer here: The stereo (or dual-mono) Philips speakers, and the provided CDs and floppy disks with the system.

  • @RaptorZX3 The CDs were bundled softwares by Microsoft mostly (like Microsoft Works), Multimedia CDs to showcase the "Multimedia PC" experience like CD Storytime, cd samples, Almanac 1991...and drivers floppies and of course Windows 3.1 on floppies. Some of the CDs have the Philips logo on them.

    Interesting fact: My single speed CD drive had to be manually opened and closed by pushing on the door, with a click when you push on it to open or close it properly)

  • @RaptorZX3 I don't have this computer anymore, as i gave it to my cousin a long time ago, and many years later, when i asked him, he said he trashed it.

    Sometimes i wish i had more space to have a 486 full-equipped PC somewhere in here, just to play old games on a real computer, not on Dosbox.

  • Jazz Jackrabbit music in the background :-D

  • wow i can still browse internet with a 386 MS-DOS machine!

  • Id software, MADAFACKAS!

  • Wolfenstein 3D ran on my 386SX as slowly as in this video, but I found out that adding a proper video card with VESA extension is a really huge speed boost to these computers.

  • cheers for the vid i could never remember the name of the game commander keen until today was child hood memory's right here !!

  • MOUNTAIN DEW

  • hey lazy dude do you play wow ?!?!

    its my main reason to be pc fan

  • jajaajaj with a Screen Acer good

  • I enjoy your videos and believe you have an excellent speaking voice with a little twist of humor. All of which make a fine presentation. Keep up the good work.

  • Can I have your shirt?

  • JAZZ JACKRABBIT MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND!!!!! :3

    I GREW UP WITH THAT GAME

  • @Kage999 i know right?! freakin love that game

  • Lol! Shut up Windows 7!

  • I MUST KNOW!!! where did you get that awesome id software t-shirt????

  • @cacodemon357 From id Software's store.

  • Dude, this was an awesome video. My first computer after my Vic20 was a 386sx 16MHz machine, with a 52 meg HD and a 1 meg chip of RAM. I used to love Commander Keen and Test Drive 3.. Death Track and Stunts were good too.

  • It's funny that this was my first video I've watched from you. I never knew about you before watching this, I was just searching for some random computer stuff one day, then this comes to me and I was instantly hooked.

    If there's a Youtube channel I could watch to the day I die, it would be yours. Keep up the good work! And do you have any hardware reviews coming up?

  • What are you looking for a c1542 and IBM at the top?

  • 5:58 HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • Good video

  • Wait, refrigerators fly?

  • @4gasem Yours doesn't? Might wanna get that fixed.

  • Music from Megarace IIRC

  • I love that 386

  • "Sounds like a vintage refrigerator preparing for lift-off" ROFLMAO!!

  • i like your Id software t shirt! :D i loved Doom, commander keen, and wolfenstein 3d! : )

  • I believe the 386SX has a 32-bit ALU with a 16-bit data bus. Since the 286 is entirely a 16-bit device I think the 386SX is more than just a particularly fast ("souped-up") 286. But great video, as always (I've seen this one several times). :-) You are lucky to have these old systems. They are actually quite hard to find these days.

  • I thought your camera was at an angle, than I realised it was me. I love you for the Nirvana reference :D

  • Would a Compaq 386/20E with 386SX, 10-16MB of RAM, 160MB HDD, VGA graphics and Soundblaster Pro be good for DOS games from the early 90's?

  • I kinda like how you use a VHS video camera, It gives your videos a sort of 80s/90s feel to it.

  • to the left is a highly complex office computer and all you need to learn to use it is this *a big book falls next to it*

  • Ive been looking for commander keen 4 forever!! its the one I played as a kid and its still so good :D

    GLR IS AMAZING

  • i built my first computer

    it was a 386dx 40 with 2megs of ram a vga card roland mt32 sound 249 meg drive and doss 6.22 and win3.11 kings quest sounded awesome

  • Game Lazy Reviews

  • That computer is as old as I am! :D

  • My first system was a 386sx, we got a 486dx2 later on I believe, then yep, next was Pentium I (as an overdrive, so it fit in the 486 slot). Cool stuff!

  • @theshep 386sx here too followed by a pentium III and then a Pentium D followed by a Core 2 Duo....then...the dark side...AMD Phenom II

  • @TheHalflife123 Ever tried filming an old CRT monitor with an old VHS video camera? It looks like balls, just awful flickering and color balance. An LCD is much more suitable for recording. When I'm playing without recording I use an old IBM or Sony CRT.

  • @phreakindee yeah i know it flickers like hell but just saying

  • @phreakindee so thats where Mainframe from ReBoot has been at for all those years in some random gamer's house

  • @phreakindee But the monitor on 5150 (is that 5153 color monitor) looks very good, I don't see any flickering.

  • @TheHalflife123 Clearly did not watch the video.

  • @TheHalflife123 FYM right now she's great troll

  • I still have my 486dx4 100mhz plugged up and running, hooked up to my LCD monitor in VGA, and I love it! Playing oldschool games on the real deal is so much cooler than using buggy emulators. :D

  • LOL "I suppose if I had big black disks being stuck in me all day too, I would be quite particular as well"

  • What do you mean, not on a 386. Don't you remember that catchy song from the late 80's where that one lady is sapping (sing-rapping) to some r-tarded themesong attempt? I had windows 98 AND ME working on the overdrive 386 I had. Thank You Cyrix! Centaurs DO haul!

  • The 386 chip was fully 32bit, the main dfference between the DX and SX,

    is that the SX lacks a floating point unit (FPU), and if I dont remember wrong, the DX had a faster or larger cache built into it.. Maybe something about a MMU missing in the SX, not sure about that one though, my memory is a bit sketchy about it.. long time ago ;-)

    Nice to see a classic PC running

  • @thedarkhenrik , Actually no. The 386 SX and DX were both 32bit internal, but the SX was a 16bit external chip with 24 memory address lines. Hence the reason the 386 DX could address 4gb of ram and the 386SX could only address 16mb. It was a cost saving measure as the boards were cheaper to produce. There were no 386 chips with a built in coprocessor. That was ALWAYS handled by adding a i387. More in next post.

  • @thedarkhenrik , cont. What you're thinking of is the i486. Initially it was just called the 486, but later on Intel released a version without a coprocessor (actually it had one, it was just disabled) and to prevent confusion they re-branded the original 486 to the 486 DX and the new chip the 486SX. Both are the same chip minus the coprocessor. That's why in older systems the 486 is just marked 486, even if it has a coprocessor. A i487 can be added to a SX system to make it a DX.

  • @harshbarj thanks for that info, I must have been thinking of the 486DX/SX series.. always good to have the facts straight, thanks for cearing that up :-)

  • Great video man very informative.

  • It's got REVERSI!!

  • I love your videos; full of info and casual fun talk!

  • @Shiqna1 No need to be rude. I was just wondering if he had another computer starting up off camera or if he added the Windows 7 sound to the video as a joke.

  • Have WCLB on Apple IIc RUBBISH!!!

    

  • COMMANDER KEEN RULEZ!

  • Big Black Disks inserted into me... That's what she said! :) FIND ME AN AMIGA! YAY!!!!

  • Kills me that PADS are rapidly replacing PCs to play games i.e. run everything else... I wanna tele-port back to 1993 PLEASE!!!

  • @phreakindee when you were talking about the clock and said "this thing is amazing" that made me sub

  • 3:50 best. sound. ever. insta-nostalgia!

  • @superkyol Ive Found You Kyol >:D

  • 04:03 MEGA LOL why u say? that was not him :D

  • having a hard drive helps LOL

  • Excellent video! It really took me back. Mind you, my first pc had an 8088 processor that ran at 4.77 mHz. No HD, just one 5 1/4" floppy. Keep up the great vids on vintage machines!

  • same screen prod =D

  • Good times when computers have "turbo" key.

  • nice t shirt :D

  • I don't know if GEM would have been quite as useless as Windows- seems to be enough presumably now free softare floating around for it which is quite decent.

  • WHAT! No math coprocessor!! hehehe should have got the 386DX :)

  • Serial Mouse..LOL..Priceless.

  • nice... I can see how you get "caught up" with the old games haha I totally would and still occasionally play CK4 on WinXP lol

  • It's easy to forget just how good these PCs were. With bloatware and even greater demands on a processor's time, you can get used to thinking computers have only gotten good just recently.

    I like a nice power PC for my recording work. Yet so many great machines I've had for free or practically nothing. Currently, a Duron 1.2 Ghz machine is great for extra studio processing duties whilst a Pentium 400 Mhz at my grandmother's place is ace for DVDs and games. Both machines were found on the kerb.

  • I love old computers and OS's and have countless emulators and virtual PC's. But really want some vintage computer but haven't really got the room for it. Also I'm quite good at hiding what a total geek I am and it would really me be shouting it off the roof if I got a machine like this.

  • Gotta love running ancient computers on an LCD monitor.

    I love old computers... but I can deal with pretending CRT's never existed.

  • Bubble Ghost FTW! I first played it on my brother's Wang PC with an IBM emulation board installed. I wish that computer was still around.

  • Great Video man I also dig older computers I have a couple of computers on has the components to to interface with other computers that run MS-DOS meaning that It has has a 5.25 disk drive for formatting and copying files to and from the 5.25 disks. I used to have some older computers several years ago but I had to get rid of them to save space

  • What's that knob like thing to the right of the PS/2 keyboard port? Is that a volume control for the PC Speaker? If it is, then that's very unique, how many PC's had a volume control for the PC Speaker apart from at least some Tandy 1000 computers?

  • Wait, why did his 386 computer make a Windows 7 startup sound?

  • @scenegta Because you're an insecure, pathetic little troll who apparently has some bizarre fetish for judging vintage computer collectors' moobs. (not sarcasm)

  • WOOPTEEDOO!

  • 4:03, SHUT UP WINDOWS 7, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!!!!!! XCD

  • 4:03, SHUT UP WINDOWS 7!!!!!! XD

  • Thanks ! Great video! HP forever :)

  • Hmm... I think that Computer Chronicles used the same games to compare a 5150 and a 386 in the 386 episode...

  • That shirt is pure win!

  • "Shut up windows 7, you're not welcome!" I laughed at that XD

  • Great PC - only needs a 14" VGA CRT monitor, instead of the TFT :)

  • Back in the day one of the kids in my neighborhood has a 386 that we played games on. Not only did it sound like a refrigerator on its last legs when you started it up, it also gave off a foul smell like burning copper or something.

    This is why computers from back in the day are better than the ones we have now: the new ones don't even smell like anything.

  • @illDiology xD

  • Whenever I see this, the first thing that comes to mind is my Packard Bell Legend 316SX. Runs on a 25MHz AMD 386SX with 4MB of RAM, built-in VGA graphics card, 1GB hard drive(the original one crashed, so I fitted a spare 1GB hard drive I had), a SoundBlaster Vibra16 sound card and has MS-DOS v6.22 along with Windows 3.11 installed. To think I was using this computer to play Solitaire in Windows when I was a kid in the '90s. Good stuff, but nowadays, it's inadequate for my DOS gaming needs.

  • I had an old 386SX CPU.

  • damn 10 years later i download almost 900 MS DOS games holy shit balls

  • @TheCleardeath You are not alone there, haha.

  • Try to run Crysis 2! ;)

  • хочу такую же футболку !!! наверное он разработчик в id software =))))

  • Hey, and thanks for an awesome Video! I recently found my dads old IBM PS/1 Consultant. It's one of the older versions, as it comes equipped with Windows 3.1. Do you know how to wiew the system specs on this without opening it? I CAN open it up, but i really don't want to, because that would ruin the Seal to the keys that can open this tin can. Thanks again for an awesome video!

  • Hi there, just wanted to say thanks for this great vid, I am in the process of building my own old DOS based PC for playing old games and found this vid really useful, thanks again mate.

  • Who looked at their cell phone to see if it was going to ring at 6:06 thumbs up

  • Nice 386. But I really love your 5150.

  • SHUTUP WINDOWS 7 YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!!

  • The 386 came out in 1986? I thought it came out later. In 1986 my dad bought an 086 pc and wouldn't let us kids touch it, because it wasn't a toy. We were only allowed to use the Commodore64. In 1995 I had a 386 pc that ran Windows 3.1. In 1993 when astronauts went to fix Hubble they replaced the computer processor with a 386 processor.

  • @TheIntolerantAtheist If you want to get technical it actually was created in 1985... so if anything, it's older still! The first production model of the 386 was introduced in June 1986.

  • @TheIntolerantAtheist You have to understand, in the early 90's PCs varied pretty wildly in speed. Even though the Pentium was released in '94 and the 486 in '89, slower PCs like the 386 you owned were still selling extremely well until the late 90's. Heck, up until about '95 even 8086/88 and 286 PCs were being sold.

  • @TheIntolerantAtheist it came out very early but was also very very expensive costing more than some cars at the time.. C64 prety much ruled the roost as a household computer until the amiga was released. the 286 and 386 came into their own when vga and sound were added along with cloned chips from companies like AMD and IBM. to put it into perspective... in AUS in about 1989 a C64 was going for about $299 a clone PC with a 386SX chip some sound and vga in c.1991 was costing about $1200

  • @TheIntolerantAtheist they then upgraded Hubble to a whopping 486 processor after!

  • I love dos i can never fiqure out how to get sound i just got it working on a doul core computer doul boot win xp the sata driver was a bitch to get working i must have used the sata driver of course

    try aladdin lion king red barron lawn cuttting simulator volleyball etc

  • Ah I remember the noisy hard drives when I was a kid. I had a PC clone that my dad bought at Radio Shack. Played mostly educational games. Loved Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego. Also enjoyed Conquest of the Longbow and Conquest of Camelot. Good times. Thank you for the videos.

  • big black disks bwahaha!

  • You could install windows95 on that machine. Had it running on a 386SX25 with 6MB ram back in the days. Terribly slow but it worked.

  • i myself owned a 286sx on turbo (20 mhz)

    but when it comes to games with dos4gw.exe, 286's are screwed.. no EMS memory.

  • don't forget to push the Turbo button

  • @itubeyoublah If it had a Turbo button, I'd totally never forget to press it :D

  • @phreakindee : some pc's had a "hidden" turbo button. I had a 286AT 16 mhz once, that was in turbo mode by default. By pressing ALT+CTRL+"-" (<-- minus on your numpad) you could put it in "not-turbo mode", and by pressing ALT+CTRL+"+" (<-- plus on your numpad) you could put it back in "turbo mode". It also gave a nice sound effect from the pc speaker. Btw, this 286AT 16 mhz ran 20 mhz in turbo mode (10 in not-turbo).

    I love your reviews, especially your hardware reviews. Keep up the good work!

  • @phreakindee you know the turbo makes the system slower actually?

  • @phreakindee i had a 486 that had one of those... but i sold it sadly

  • @phreakindee the turbo button never did anything. i never saw a increase in speed, no better performance, not even a higher cpu temp.

    is there a video of the turbo button that actually does osmething?

  • Im looking for some computer freaks or software engeneer for the creation of my network company. So if you want to be part of the team write me a message.

  • Im looking for some computer freaks or software engeneer for the creation of my network company. So if you want to be part of the team write me a message.

  • Nice rig, im jealous. Had a 386DX back in the 90's, mine had a whopping 8mb of Ram and a 800mb hard drive and CDROM running Windows 3.1. I used to play a lot of aces of the pacific and Beneath a steel sky. Pissed me off a bit when my buddy showed me Doom on his 486DX 66 and then lent it me, haha, i had to play it on a screen the size of a postage stamp in low resolution. Good times!

    Think i feel a Sub coming on...

  • HOLY SHIT COMMANDER KEEN!!!!! that brings back sooo many memories!!!!!

  • i'm scared that i lived to see all this... when i was 4, i played spellbound on a 286 pc my dad brought home. lol... remember spellbound? (spelling bee game)

  • @izlude2 Spellbound was freakin' rad. That dude with the red hat and cool shoes? Ownage.

  • LOVE the Pink Floyd poster. Great taste dude!

  • wow that a nice rig

  • My first computer was a Pentium 1 but, I remember playing these games at school.

  • @kickflipjr we had the imb pc when i was a kid, we got this too one christmas, it's funny but the neighbors used to come over to play with it

  • i have a question.Will a Pentium 1 at 166MHz be too fast for some early dos games or i have to slow it down.

  • Is "Lazy" Game Reviews meant to be sarcastic? Your reviews are very thorough, which I like!

  • @sirrvs At first, they really were lazy. Just thrown together without much thought or editing. But that didn't last long, and now it's more of a title that stuck that doesn't apply to editing so much as it does my experience playing games. Going on production value, more appropriately it would be titled "Efficiently-Produced Game Reviews" but that sounds lame.

  • @phreakindee What about "implosive game reviews"?

  • I used to have the NCR 3421 model (386 DX 20 - microchannel version). Never knew of an ISA version NCR 386 though.. Used to blow my friends 486s out of the water with the video card and SCSI hard drive. Cursed on it for not being able to findi proper video drivers for Windows so i was stuck on 16 colours, and couldnt find an microchannel sound card. Wish i had it back today though ;(.

    And those NCR cases? freakin tanks and classy. Still have a few orange buttons around. Those where the days

  • I love FreeBSD, but I think it is lame that FreeBSD now requires a 486. I think if it is still a 32 bit x86 OS, it should be able to run on a 386. :( Oh well, at least we still have FreeDOS, DR-DOS and Linux on 386s. :)

  • I just bought a vectrex game "console" and a friend will give an old pc (which I didn't test but think to be 286, 386 time, first view), let's hope it is. Your video's are awesome

  • LOL @ Being particular about having a big black disk stuck in me all day.

  • lol your shirt is too small

  • @asagoth11 Seeing as how the title and subject of this video is not "How To Wear a Shirt That asagoth11 Finds Properly-Sized" I don't see how that's in the least bit pertinent.

  • what the hell is up with that camera?

    2 advantages of 386-486

    5.25 inch floppies

    and

    no built in screen (the reason why that's good is because you can use an awesome screen like phreakindee and not a bulky screen that gives off black lines when digitally recorded)

    to keep me from killing myself over typing code I"m probably gonna install a windows OS

    I said the same thing about the 486.

    you should try out the terminator games for dos.

  • @OBSysteme But nevertheless, I do like the vintage machines... it brings back many memories and they're fun too fiddle with as long it's just a hobby.

  • @3ytc Agreed, they can be a serious pain, especially back when these were still your everyday computer for work/school/play. I can't tell you much how I hated DOS and everything about the PC for quite some time. But now that I can relive those days at my leisure (the good parts at least) with real machines for very little cash, it's quite fun in appropriate doses. Fun to collect the software boxes and stuff as well.

  • @phreakindee Even Windows was a pain. Things got better with Windows 3.x, but it was only until Windows NT that I go the sense that Windows was finally somehow maturing.

  • I don't understand why you needed this machine to run specific games, I have yet to find a vintage game that I didn't get to work on my modern system. Which games are you talking about?

  • @3ytc Did you watch all of the video? I showed some of those games, like Test Drive III. There are plenty of vintage MS-DOS games that are built specifically for systems of this vintage and the speed (or lack thereof) that it provides. Stunt Driver, CD-MAN v1 and Bubble Ghost are more examples of these games that will run too fast or too slow on other systems. Try them on a ~486DX/4 to see.

    You saying that you have a modern system to run these games confuses me, since these are DOS-only.

  • @phreakindee "You saying that you have a modern system to run these games confuses me, since these are DOS-only."

    Virtualization, it even allows you to throttle CPU speed

  • @3ytc Then why ask why I needed this computer if you're using a VM? That's completely different, and obviously I wouldn't run into the speed issue if I were using one.

    This is a real machine. I run the games on their original hardware and for several I needed a very specific machine. VMs and emulators simply do not provide the actual experience, although they may be much easier nowadays to use. But I'm not about easy.

  • @phreakindee Btw, it's fun watching some of your videos, brings back many old memories, the days of the pioneers. ha!

  • dosbox?

  • @racingisfun Defeats the purpose - running the games on original hardware in their original form.

  • oh man I remember my old 386 laptop with no sound card...so expensive and poor perofrmances.

  • There was nothing better than getting an old DOS machine and getting to find out what was left on the disk by the previous owner. Sorry you got robbed with that one.

    By the way I had no idea about those 1ups on the first level of keen4. Learn something new every day.

  • sounds that game sounds like genesis