If God were to answer you directly on this question would you beleive in Him or would you find some reason to find fault in the Creator? God is in control of who lives and who dies. God directs and guides and uses the people He created to fulfill His plan. If people don't listen to the direction of God, God can do what ever God wants.
@kimkerchner There's a lot to fault. He commits genocide, infanticide, allows slavery and rape, treats women and children and most people badly. And so on.
"If people don't listen to the direction of God, God can do what ever God wants. "
@humanistheart God is the Creator of all things. God is holy and good. He gives us life and everything we need for existance. Man is ungrateful, unthankful and blames God for bad things that happens. God does not rape, or do evil. God (Jesus Chirst) loved us so much that He came to earth and died for our sins. He took the punishment that we all deserve. Jesus Christ saves us from the wrath of God on judgement day and grants eternal life for those who believe and repent. God is really great.
@kimkerchner "God is holy and good." Oh, was hitler and mao good? If you think the abrahamic god, who commits mass genocide, and infanticide, and allows things like slavery, and has questionable rape practices is good, than you must love hitler and Mao.
@humanistheart God is holy and good and comparing hitler and mao to God is a riduclious comparison. The God of the old testament is the same God in the New Testament. God is in control of everything He made. Why are you fighting with God? He has given you life, air, food, shelter, clothing and a brain to think. Praise Him for all the great things you have. Ask God to revile Himself to you. Instead of looking for a fight with God. Why not try to understand His nature and have a relationship.
You sound like a broken record, but ignored all that was said to you. I'll repeat it until you actually address what is written.
If you think the abrahamic god, who commits mass genocide, and infanticide, and allows things like slavery, and has questionable rape practices is good, than you must love Hitler and Mao.
WOW.......!!! YOU SAID GOD TOLD THE PEOPLE TO GO AND KILL ,YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING MEANS AND SHOW THAT YOU ADMIT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. you admit that there is one God. So you admit that there is one God . I THOUGHT YOU ARE AN ATHEIST BUT RATHER YOU ARE A CONFUSED PERSON.
I think you make many assumptions and some rightly so due to many who claim to be christians who are actually not, according to the scriptures. I am more than capable of answering any question from scripture and make concessions where called for if you too are willing to make concessions where your logic does not follow. it is my contention that there is more evidence pointing to a creator than which points to science.
Spiritual death is what God warned and admonished us all about. The Creator of all things can choose to do what He wills with His creation. This is nothing unusual. For what have you created that you do not have control? You cant say anything regarding life because no man originated life. Man can only attempt to alter life.
Again easy answer. You keep making this mistake and it appears all your videos originate from the same premise. During the Mosaic Dispensation, the israelites were Gods people along with proselytes by whom the "seed" was to come through. The act of judgement is necessary as a product of justice. A heathen was one without hope not without God. There are many examples of people converting to judais upon recognizing and serving God. Physical death has always been the punishment for disobedience.
@autofill67 so it was ok to slaughter many innocent people, and take many of them and force them to be sex slaves, as long as gods seed is going to come from them?
@squirtrocks123 Athiests and agnostics listen...All these terms youre using must defined. Innocent people, God, Salvation, etc...I thought this was logic and intellect based. At the very leastyou must admit that the termdefined in bible are subject to bible scrutiny as well as definition. Your arguments are all wrong when you take a bible term and take at liberty to define it for yourself. You have a better position by arguing the validity f]of the bible itself.
@autofill67 okay, before i reply to this properly can you please expand and explain the sentence ' At the very leastyou must admit that the termdefined in bible are subject to bible scrutiny as well as definition'
So - when are you going to actually provide this "easy answer"? Your paragaph has no meaning. You talk a lot and say nothing.
To judge is to decide, nothing more. Not to kill. An "act of judgement" is just to say "yes or no". Imagine the judge up on his bench. Does he have a rifle? No. He has a gavel.
And the bit abou tthe heathen converting, WHAT HAS THAT TO DO WITH THE QUESTION?
God's help was the only way the Israelites could have beat their foes. God wanted them to show their faith in Him by fighting against the odds. If they would have fought in the first place, they wouldn't have had to wander in the desert for 40 years.
You forgot to mention that God says that if they dont listen to the ultimatum then they can kill them. If they accept the ultimatum then they shall be treated very, very well and be a part of the society.
And the neighboring people there where mostly supposedly devil worshipers or "giants".
It is a bit more complicated than just taking one or two verses.
@dannywizz If you were familiar with the Bible you wouldn't accuse me of cherry-picking one or two verses. There are dozens of examples of God commanding genocide. If someone told demanded that you give them YOUR house and all YOUR posessions because THEIR god told their great-great-great-grandfather that they could have your property, would you "accept the ultimatum" and move out?
(Please provide scriptures showing that the people killed were devil worshippers or giants.)
@dannywizz While you're at it, please show verses for every commanded genocide showing that an ultimatum was issued prior to the command to "utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling"
@azsuperman01 respect man for responding, thanks. I am just now reading the old testament and it is written in other chapters. I will get back to you later on this....
But we have to consider this.
1. It is Giants that inhabits these lands so is it "the devils" people?
2. They are given ultimatums and there are at least 1 o 2 neighbors that accept these treaties.
I'm not OK with killing and genocide but I think it is very much the HOW we concentrate on and not the WHY when we read it.
the answer is simple: it's a death cult. yahweh didn't even care to have new followers. he never told the israelites to try to convert the people, just kill them. blood, blood and more blood. judaism, ancient and modern, christianity, islam... all of them, death cults
k this question will have to take me into the bible as to every reason for the deaths of people because of there disobediance and sin there can be not mercy outside of Jesus Christ and him crucified..the people in Canaan were evil the giants were a result of fallen angels sexing with the people..when we are saved its not all roses or rainbows we fight against prinicipalities and powers..However when we trust in God the battle is easy..the israelites beat every enemy easy when they trusted..
@MissChaceurz in God however when they did not trust in him they were defeated and so those people continued to inhabit the land..same today when we do not trust in the lord we will be defeated by our sin satan or the world..
It is not only a tough question but also very shocking for modern "christianity" where God is a nice gnome who "loves everybody". The answer is that God helped the israelites to win the battles as well. You may read about it in Deut 9 where it says God will go before them with a devouring fire to destroy the peoples. And in the whole book of Joshua. God wants to show how He can make this tiny weak people of Israel defeat those huge and mighty nations just like that
lol consider the fact that those in the promised land before the israelites got there killed to get there and werent not meant to own that land. now imagine the Jones' as some italian mob that killed to get there and robin hood shows up to get it back for the israelites
everyone on the planet .lets start a fund , so that we can build a time machine and end all this non-sense. humans are not worthy of any knowledge that is important . just sit back,live your life and pay the government their taxes. no one on the planet will ever know god.
@azsuperman01 I said in my previous post that fighting was an act of faith because the Israelites were a small tribe compared to its pagan neighbors. The Israelite's government didn't have a military arm so Moses had to produce the army to fight and wage war against their enemies. They needed 40 years to train an army of considerable size,produce and wield arms for war, govern themselves and own a territory; that's from being slaves to an independent state.
@azsuperman01 - The answer is really simple - God owns the universe and no country,state, or ethnic tribe would be willing to give their territory for free without a fight to a God and alien folks they don't recognize. A state must have government,people,sovereignty...and territory. The territory was chosen by God because that's where He wants his people, fighting was an act of faith, killing enemies and taking prisoners, a part of Holy war.
Your question is based on the assumption that the event really happened. I don't think that you believe that this event happened. Perhaps you are assuming that belief in God can be discounted by exposing the "cruelty of God" through the stories in the bible. There are theists who believe that a great deal of what is in the bible is mythical. The bible is not the pillar of God's existence--it is merely a signpost, and a poor one at times.
The bible is supposed to teach us lessons about morality and human behavior, but JESUS (not taking his name in vain; literally asking him), why did all of those people ACTUALLY have to die? Just to prove god's point? We could have just as easily been born into an ancient time period. What if WE had to suffer on earth to become lessons for the future generations, AND spend eternity in hell because we're "tainted" and we "deserve" it? Would we recognize our loving, forgiving god?
First of all this is the old testament. A covenant no longer in existence. You might want to read Genesis where the their were Giants in the land. Who were these giants? The sons of god (demons) that mated with the women and produced children. This was before the flood. Then the children of Israel go into the promised land and their are giants again recorded. Remember David killed the giant. And then Jesus said it shall be as in the days of Noah before he returns. Demon people again?
@cshook123 "irst of all this is the old testament. A covenant no longer in existence. " What an odd thing to say. How very interesting you think that mass genocide and rape and what not doesn't matter because it was committed in the 'old testament' which by the way is the HEBREW BIBLE not the OT, lol.
@humanistheart Where does it say mass rape in the Bible? Unless you were there you can not comment on what God does. We are now under grace since Christ died on the cross however God will always judge sin. Like I said before a lot of these people were not normal people. There were giants in the land. Read the Book of Enoch.
@cshook 1) "Unless you were there you can not comment on what God does. " No one could have been there, as we are talking about fictional events inside stories. As for where is says mass rape, it does not say it. Nor does it say mass genocide, as that word did not exist in the times the stories were written. However the definition the creator of the word gave for it was the intentional elimination of a people be it culturally of physically, which fits the descriptions perfectly, just as forcing
@cshook123 2) sex on women fits the definition of rape perfectly. As for the book of Enoch, it is only excepted as cannon in the Ethiopian christian sect, so far as I know anyway. Additionally the Book of Enoch and Genesis has the physical bodies of the Nephalim, the giants you refer to, as destroyed, so considering both these facts I think you can agree that it's hardly relevant to the later genocides of the biblical stories. Additionally, it seems you are suggesting that one's species is a
@cshook123 Giants do not mean nephalim, nepahlim were a specific race. In Enoch Yahweh sends the flood to wipe out the nephalim. Are you telling me that your god failed to do something he intended to do? And that's just fiction, even in real life we have people that reach over 8 feet tall, and we call them giants too.
@cshook123 3) bases for death. If they are not human, regardless of their sentience, than they can be killed without a second thought. That's not good.
"God will always judge sin" Your character god will judge people for doing things he doesn't like. That's pretty immature.
@humanistheart So what are you trying to say? That we decide what God does? God does not need your permission and God does not care what you think because he is God and he's the boss. Not us.
@humanistheart No God is a just God. The nephalim were spiritual beings angels that came from the sky. I believe these UFO' are the nephalim. They sure are concerned with reproduction.
@jwednall "All sin brings about the wrath of God."
You'll notice that sin is not the same as doing something wrong. What kind of being says do what I say or suffer? Or right, a lunatic. A mad, evil tyrant.
@humanistheart that's right. All wrong doing is not sin. People can make a mistake. There is a big difference between that and specifically living in sin. What's your point? I never said anything about people who just simply make a mistake or do something wrong.
@jwednall I already told you my point. Simply torturing people for something another being doesn't like is not a valid way to go. Love me or suffer, that's the bottom line in your religion, and it's sick.
I do like your video even though I don't agree with you. It is a comical adaptation to what has been written. Where does it say you must Kill innocent people?
Azsuperman01: In order to cleanse the land and keep it Holy. The residents caused their children to "pass through Fire" sacrificed to their false god. Yes God destroys: He has 2 sides like humans-His wrath against Law breakers and His LOVE and mercy seen in Jesus. It is up to us which side of Him we will KNOW in the end. Even those who believe in the GHOST realm should know -it only takes baby steps to realise there is also a FATHER of spirits.
a scripture comes to mind....about the potter & clay ...isaiah 29:16..you turn things upside down as if the potter were thought to be the clay..shall what is formed say to him that formed it,"He Did Not Make Me", can the pot say to the potter "he knows nothing?"...cross ref. -rom.9:19-20...ps.103:14...jer.18:1...these are getting fun!
In the time of Noah there were not a billion people on earth.I consider a person a kook who spends all their time refuting a God who does not exist,that's insanity.Rebuking myth is hysterical.How can any answer a person who believes fist the question a myth.A foolish man should not be answered with wisdom he is a fool to understand
@chrisalsup19 You are claiming that commanding his chosen people to slaughter pregnant women, suckling children, old men, etc. brought God more glory than if he had done the work himself and allowed his chosen people to move in without making them murder the current residents first... then when I ask how, you say "I'm not God so I don't know his plan"
Then by what basis can you argue that making God look like an evil tyrant brought him more "glory" than any alternative?
@jtclark17 No, the concept of hell was introduced in the NT, and the hebrew people were already working toward a paradise so all the NT does is create a torture version of the afterlife.
@azsuperman01 Again. The bible is a spiritual book. The promise land is our hearts. We have enemies on this land. The Philistines, and other peoples that were on the land are symbolic of demons that have possession of this land.( Our hearts) We are to take courage and go in and possess this land. That means we have to get rid of every spirit that is hindering us from overcoming.
@humanistheart Oh no? I have no concept of scripture? Please explain. Do you not understand that the old testament are just types and shadows of what is fulfilled in Jesus? Jesus said that all of the scriptures speak of him. What do you think that the bible is just a compositions of interesting stories and it has no spiritual value?
@humanistheart Well, I just took a look at your profile. I see why you would think that now. Here is your problem, You think because you have a degree in religious studies that makes you an expert on what the scriptures mean. At least that is the feeling that I am getting. 1Cor. 2:14-But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
@humanistheart I don't think the entire bible is merely a metaphor and I never said that it was. There are a lot of things in the scriptures that are figurative however. Ezekiel 3:3-Then He said to me, "Son of man, eat what you find; eat this scroll, and go, speak to the house of Israel." God told Ezekiel to eat the scroll in this passage. Are you telling me that you think this means he ate a literal scroll? The scroll of course is symbolic of word of God. He is taking in the word cont.
Right, and why isn't that made clear in churches when they outright put others down, or is it they are only fair on the spiritual plane while the physical one it's ok to treat others badly because they are not of your religious believes or they are gay.
@KernsNoel I don't treat others bad because they do not have my same religious beliefs, nor do I treat gays bad either. I may not agree with the life style, but I don't treat them bad. The churches are full of mean hateful people. I am not denying that, but there is a big difference between the harlot church and true church of Jesus.
Right... and that message is so clear from the churchs, who/whoms figure heads publicly denounce gays, while their 'Official Statements & Views' are no where near what their LEADERS HAVE SAID PUBLICLY.
Though, I thought it was GODS PLACE to judge and not yours or any human, as to what is the real church and life styles, else you risk playing god by doing so.
@KernsNoel No. First of all. We are not to judge those who are without. Those who are in the church judgement has to take place there according 1rst Peter 4:17-For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? When Jesus was telling us not to judge he was speaking of using unrighteous judgement. Remember he said that what measure of judgement that you use it will be measured back.
So, shouldn't that mean you judge your self before others, and make sure you are carring the word and message of god without bias of the human nature? Or did I miss the point.
-"For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first,"
With - "Remember he said that what measure of judgement that you use it will be measured back" - In mind, that would suggest the more forgiving you are to others, the more forgiving your judgment will be.
@KernsNoel Have I made a judgement against you? No I have not. All sin brings about the wrath of God. It does not matter whether you are an adulterer, a fornicator, homosexual, whatever the list goes on and on. The word is going to judge you and me and the rest of us without respect of persons. If you are in the church and practicing sin, something needs to be said to whomever it is. Jesus gave the process for this. If you are really interested you can look it up just as easily as I can. cont.
I agree the church has no business judging the world. According to Jesus they are already judged. If people are mean to you because you are gay, that is wrong. However that does not mean that I have to agree with your lifestyle.
agree or not, you still judge by going on about it. The problem is that near everyone has a warped sense of what judging really is, and forgets that even disproving of someones lifestyle is judging.
I Have such issues, though I do what I can to let it go before I blow it in their faces. Yes, there are limits to things, but I do not think you even realize how bad your judging gays, just because they are. If you think they should burn for it (Or repent) then you have judged.
@KernsNoel Buddy I'm not the one going on about it. I have only mentioned the fact that you were gay one time. You are the one that is getting defensive about it. Whether I think that they should repent or not it does not matter. My opinion makes no difference. The word is what is right. I am just telling you that the word judges that kind of behavior and I am in agreement with the word. You can do whatever you like. It is really none of my business.
Ya, your right, your opinion wouldn't matter. Though it does to you and even then it's still in your head and it gets used against you, and colors your views on others. (despite being powerless to do anything about it) In short, I'm not sure you get how much of a 'slippery slop' it is to disapprove/hate/dislike/etc. it is to keep such thoughts in your head.
How can you hold love when you hold negative thoughts of someone... and yes I just face-pawed about myself saying that.
@KernsNoel You can hold love in your heart because you realize that our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers of wickedness in high places. It is just like anyone who is living in sin. It does not matter what the particular sin is. The person is not the enemy it is the powers of darkness that are controlling their lives. We all start out in the image of Satan, lost and dead in our sins. It is not until we come to Jesus with all our hearts that we are any different.
Ya, that's a load of bad words. *shakes my head* ya know it gets sickening to hear that. "Your born sinful, even without doing a dang thing, your a Sinful devil." Just can it. I know that is a load of crap, and the creepy ways people attribute all the good deeds to jesus is just ... wrong. Yes I don't have a doubt he does good deeds, but he doesn't do all of them, and he and god aren't the reason everyone makes it through hard times. Some times it'd be good to hear something..
@KernsNoel Well, my friend you and I are not getting anywhere with this conversation. You don't agree with me and I don't agree with you. If you don't believe the word of God is the truth that's fine. You have the right to believe whatever you want to and so do I. I guess we'll know for sure one day.
I plan to find out. Believe me on that. I got alot of questions, or very little (depending on what's there) for God, in what ever form.
Tell you what, if ya can do an experiment, and find out how many church members actually donate to charities, and I don't mean the major ones, I mean the ones that end up right in your face. (the donation boxes at banks, conviences stores, cash registers at regular stores, etc) and you might be alittle supprised, that more non-Christians donate.
@KernsNoel Well that's lovely, but I believe that I have already explained to you that most of what is so called church today is not really the church of Jesus. They have a form of godliness but they deny the power there of. I'm not defending most so called Christians or churches. I am defending the scriptures.
You do realize that the scriptures where hand picked long after jesus death, by the roman catholic church council and, not every scripture that exsisted was allowed in, and even supposing they were true, that makes the holy books rather incomplete and misleading since all the stories were put in place for them, by the council.
The following versions only inturpeted the words for us, and supposedly corrected some misspellings.
@KernsNoel No they were not picked by the roman catholic church. That is a common argument that people make that do not want to accept them. The different versions were even translated from different texts. I hope you really do not believe that the modern translations are just merely corrections to the more archaic ones. If you do then you need to do some more homework. You believe the scriptures are man made. I believe they are the word of God. Like I said you live your life and I will mine.
Besides it being letters to other people as advice from one person, DOESN"T MAKE IT HOLY OR THE WORD OF GOD. I am actually more shocked that most to near all the accounts of the bible are from the male side of things, and fail to account for how the female followers saw it. (No I'm not female)
Though as far as I am concerned the most that came from god was the comandments, and the rest is mostly just members trying to understand it, with very little in it jesus saying somethin.
@KernsNoel Okay. You still did not produce any evidence to refute what I said about the different translations being taken from different texts. You just called me an idiot and keep stating your opinion over again in different words. It is amazing how people like you are the first ones to get upset and say someone is judging you. You have just proven that you are just as bad or worse by the comment you just made. Like I said, if that is the case then you have nothing to worry about correct?
That's almost to funny, when "different translations being taken from different texts" is really broad, and the differences between bibles are mere word changes. Though what you said implies more then one book and in that NO SHIT they came from different sources. (New Testiments/Old Testiments/ETC) I was not talking about books printed that were not the Bible it self.
OH I know I've got issues, and Guess what I'll have to face them just like anyone else.
@KernsNoel Beside that, why do you argue with someone about something if you do not believe that it is for real. I don't believe in santa, or the easter bunny. I'm not going to argue with someone about their existence. It does not matter to me. If you feel that Jesus and the scriptures are just fairy tales then I wouldn't concern myself with it. After all what difference would it make in the end anyhow?
Yes, that's what I said is they were fairy tails. Idiot.
*sighs* I know something is there, and Yes the Roman catholic Pieced the bible tog ether from the other books, picking and choosing which books would be allowed to make the bible.
Besides, the fact remains that VERY LITTLE in the books are actually written by or even inspired directly by jesus or god, and most of it is personal accounts from others, and quite litterally mis-understood, ...
@jwednall "Beside that, why do you argue with someone about something if you do not believe that it is for real."
Because people make choices based on their beliefs, and when those beliefs have no evidence to support them, or in fact have evidence to show they are not true, those people will inevitably make bad decisions. Those decisions will then have consequences for those around them.
Like how some was nice just for being nice, and it wasn't some divine bull, when I go for a walk to get a drink, and drop my change into the charity box at the 7-11, it's not god or jesus that helped it's Thousands on thousands of people donating their change and money to de charity, and I get sick of credit being put on jesus or god without them doing a fisking thing for it. Ya, Now if God came to me, and told me to put my change in their, THEN IT"S HIS/HER IDEA. (as an example)
@chrisalsup19 And the fact that he needed to do all that evil to accomplish his goal only proves the point of the video. Your God is an evil , sadistic monster and it's a great thing he does not exist. Epic fail on your part.
@azsuperman01 GOD killsa people cause people deserve to die you are so blinded that you think you are good don't you? you think you are a moral being on your own? the people in the promised land were sinners deserving GODS judgement they deserved to die just like us today but you are such a hipocrite you think you a good ole boy don't you? you were never a christian i heard your story its weak you never knew GOD and it clearly shows by your fruits
@patriotsfan1379 And what makes people more deserving to die than this nameless character you call god?
You call people sinners, but sin is meaningless, it has no inherent meaning beyond being something your imaginary tyrant doesn't like at the moment. Big deal.
@humanistheart if you were yto have read the bible than you would have seen that these people were not so nice or moral andif you call them innocent what does that sayabout you?
@chrisalsup19 Sorry, I don't buy that. We've got terrorists right in the current world who murder to glorify God. How do we know that the Israelites did't write history to justify the slaughter? Humans use God to justify their sins. Every army, every invading country from the dawn of civilization claimed that God(s) is glorified by their slaughtering of others and stealing their land.
God said don't kill,don't steal,don't covet. No exceptions.
@etonks "God said don't kill,don't steal,don't covet. No exceptions."
Really, NO exceptions. So the times he commanded them to commit mass genocide and infanticide isn't an exception to don't kill? The times he commands them to kill homosexuals, wayward teenagers, and women who don't cry out enough while being raped isn't and exception to don't kill? How is ordering people to kill in line with ordering them not to kill?
@etonks Frist off, I'll correct any contradictory statements you make, regardless of who they are directed to.
Your second portion contains nothing of value, if you want to claim I have a comprehension problem (clear projection on your part) than support it with facts. You know, those things you've avoided for days now?
Ah, and the 3rd, you choose more insults over an actual response because you can't operate on my higher level of intellect. It's good you recognize you're outclassed.
@AXESMI - You ignored the question. Why did God make the Israelites murder so many people in order to take possession of the land? God was fully capable of killing everyone before the Isrealites got there, but instead he commands them to kill every living thing, giving special instructions not to spare infants, pregnant women, and old people.
@azsuperman01 People use God to justify bad behavior. They do it all the time in ALL faiths. 9/11 anyone?
Just because it's in the Bible or any other Holy Book (written by men) doesn't make it right. Because as far as we know, the ONLY thing God actually wrote were the Ten Commandments.
Did God really have the Israelites kill everyone or did they decide to do it themselves and then blamed God? Remember, the Bible was written by men. It's going to be skewed to their side just a bit.
@humanistheart You have no proof that God doesn't exist as I have none, nor do I offer, proof that God does exist. That's where faith comes in and obviously, with your low intellect you can't grasp faith and therefore have to attack it. Like throwing stones at the moon.
Go watch something about muscles it seems that your head's full of them.
@etonks There's plenty of proof gods don't exist. Name one you want disproved. Which god are you talking about?
My low intellect a? You can't make your point with actual reason or logic so you resort to petty attacks. Yeah, that really shows off your 'intellect'. Should I provide you the stats on how atheists on average have higher education and IQ's than theists such as yourself?
@humanistheart Me thinks you doth protest too much! You aren't really sure if you are an atheist or not. Your obnoxious behavior proves you aren't. You need so desperately to convince. You can't even discuss a topic without being abrasive or insulting. You need what other people tell you to think, hence your quotes. You're not really an atheist at all. I see it now. You're a fake! You are just trying to impress the ones you want to emulate. You're not even your own person. OMG, what a poser!
@humanistheart First prove Dark Matter. It is a strong theory right now but not yet proven. So, prove that first, it should be simple for someone as "Educated" as you think you are. Get your proof acknowledged by the scientific community, win an award. You still will not be able to prove or disprove faith. It dwells within your soul, It is a tangible intangible but cannot be proven or disprove via the steps of a scientific theory.
@etonks And now you're trying to shift the subject, in loo of nothing, to dark matter. You keep claiming things regarding education, I pointed out that Christians on average have low education and intellect. You decided to ignore that and hope you wouldn't be called on it. But hey, just keep changing the subject when your called on your lies.
Oh, and you didn't say faith can't be disproved, you said a god couldn't. Now you changed your story. Real bright guy you are.
@humanistheart REALLY? are you really this dumb? You just don't get it. Your stupidity is astounding! Thank God for the autonomic system or you'd forget to breathe! I NEVER said that God CAN be proven. IN fact I have ALWAYS said Faith/God these things can't be proven or dis~proven. This is something you clearly cannot comprehend.
Your claim is unfounded & from out of your ass. That's all your comment it was worth. Your ass talks a lot! You should go on the road with that.
@humanistheart Okay, I just have to address this.... "in loo"???? LOL!! Your misuse of "you're"& "your" is expected, but "Loo"??? And it doesn't even make sense in your sentence. "In lieu" means "Instead of" so you want to say "...instead of nothing, to Dark Matter"? HA HA WHAT? If you want to impress people with your vocabulary, try knowing what the words mean and spell check.
@etonks In lieu of of something is grammatically correct. But then you'd need some education to know that. You seem to lack such a thing. Also, loo doesn't get picked up by the spell check because it is a word of it's own. But again, you wouldn't know that. But since you did not address anything in the post, I'll simply re-post it for you until you do, as you keep trying to shift the subject.
@humanistheart It's a word on it's own.See, that's what spell check is supposed to do. loo/Noun: A toilet. Once again you are wrong and make something up to make you "look" correct. Your ass just has so much to say. "...toilet of nothing, to dark matter." Oh yeah, THAT makes much better sense.
You keep saying I am not educated because I have faith. I say you are an idiot because...well your posts say it all, poser.
You were fun, so easy to get going. But now you just simply bore me.
@etonks No, see what spell check does it correct a misspelled word, few versions correct grammar. For instance if someone means to right too but leaves an o off and spells to, most spell checks don't pick that up. Also, toilet is not the only thing loo can mean. You're welcome for the education.
"You keep saying I am not educated because I have faith" No, I keep correcting your claims atheists are of low intellect and education with the facts that we on average have notably higher amounts of...
@humanistheart ...both. I gave you sources and the stats on it, which you chose to ignore, opting instead to use petty insults. Insults such as "REALLY? are you really this dumb? You just don't get it. Your stupidity is astounding!"
All an attempt to distract from your own debunked claims.
@humanistheart And now you're trying to shift the subject, in lieu of nothing, to dark matter. You keep claiming things regarding education, I pointed out that Christians on average have low education and intellect. You decided to ignore that and hope you wouldn't be called on it. But hey, just keep changing the subject when your called on your lies.
Oh, and you didn't say faith can't be disproved, you said a god couldn't. Now you changed your story. Real bright guy you are.
@AXESMI Now, before I say this, please understand that I am a Jew myself. Ok, that being established, there is abolutely no historical evidence that we were ever enslaved in Egypt, or that there were ever significant numbers of Jews living in Egypt prior to the Diaspora. The story of the Exodus still has spiritual significance, but it is not historical evidence, any more than the other absurd stories running around in the various scriptures.
@Bernstein1917 Please note that, when I say no significant Jewish population in Egypt, I am excepting Alexandria during the Ptolemaic/early Roman periods. I'm embarassed to say it, but that did slip my mind a moment ago. Just clarifying.
In the spirit of Lent, I make an effort to reflect on my faith. Part of that introspection involves seeking out differing points of view to challenge myself. I came across these series of videos today, and I must say, these aren't tough questions... at all. Any Christian who has studied their faith with any diligence can easily answer these questions. That isn't to say there aren't tough questions, but I would reconsider your position if these are the questions which led to your loss of faith.
@botwindfish let's see your answer, catholic guy. why didn't god kill the canaanites himself? why did he need some dude to blow a trumpet to make a city collapse?
Okay im not saying that it is right to kill people like that but the reason in the bible it says god told them to kill the people was because god wanted them to prove there faith. Again im not saying its right im just giving you an answer why god would have the them do that.
@ian51002 How are you sure that the bible is the true religion? And how are you sure that there even is any superior Power named God? Why make people fear death and hell just because someone made that up so they could make money? Religion is a way to Control people and make money.
Religion is also a way to explain all the unexplainable and an old school form of laws...
It might be that that the bible was intended to be for the good of people, but that doesn't make it good.
@Bussemand2 LOLZ!!! Its so amazing how us two view things so differently! Evolution is written all over you're statement!!! Think about it, did they TRULY prove the Big Bang? Yet its in the text books. Did they ever TRULY prove humans came from apes? Its in our books though. My high school science book tells me my farthest ancestors were bacteria. HAVE THEY TRULY EVER PROVEN IT??? NO. Its accepted only ... no I think I'll stop now for respect reasons.
Studies of background radiation and sciences that are out of my knowledge can date the universe back to around 5 seconds after the "supposed" singularity 14 billion years ago, I believe. So there is evidence to support this.
We can trace the evolution of the human species back to African Apes. Following this trend, we can best guest that we all came from a simple creature (single celled maybe) to this now. Evidence.
There is no evidence for anything supernatural. That's why it's not in science
youremissing the whole question... "Because god wanted to" is not an answer. Thats already,for purpose of argument, the obvious fact. The question is what kind of sick rationale is this for a merciful loving god... Or anyone for that matter...
Could you show me where the bible says that God is ONLY merciful and love? Why is it that people forget to include holy, just and wrathful when discussing the attributes of God?
And my answer below is an answer. The question was "why didn't God just give the Jews the land with no one on it." Answer, because God wanted them to kill the wicked inhabitants. I dunno, maybe to get them used to war since there were going to many to come.
You are speaking of this old testament (I assume) story as if it really happened, or that all theists must believe this story and be satisfied with the God in the story. Clearly you don't believe the story, but you seem to think that if the story is mythical then God doesn't exist. I also don't believe the story, but I do believe in the existence of God. Maybe alot of the bible is distorted or outright false, but that doesn't disprove the existence of God. That is up to each individual.
you sir are an idiot...this actually did happen...maybe if you knew what the canaanites were doing then you would understand it more...it was called Herem..ever heard of Baal worship...ya it was huge back then (child sacrifces...you know the whole schibang). God gave the canaanites 400 yrs to change, he waited until the sin reached its full potential and then he killed them...god was patient and as forgiving as He could be
@777godisgreat I stand by my first comment. The person who made this video, azsuperman01 likely did not believe that the events actually happened--he certainly was not praising God in his characterization of the events. I am not a bible scholar--maybe the events really did happen. I don't really care, as it doesn't influence my concept of God.
Well you have to study Gen 6:4 and let me ask you a question.
What if an extraterrestrial form of life somehow interbred with humanity and spawned children that were bigger stronger and cannibalistic towards there half brothers? What would you want to do today?
What if you found out the people in that country were child molesters and child killers? Would they deserve to die?
You see we get High and Moral when we don't know the whole story!!
God never promised that we would know everything today!
In the final anaylsas God will be vindicated for all he has done whether you all think he was gently guiding us, or genocidal like those of you who are wrong say, so i will believe the first, and when i come to stand before him on my last day. Then i will know why things happened the way they did. Because if you have a right mind you know the truth all ready. So start with a heart of Love in your search, and He will show you the truth of the thing. God be praised, and free will is tuff.
Jesus is to come from the Jews in the promise land and God didn't want any culture of pagans to change the way of life to ensure the best outcome. Even though this failed I image God took this drastic attempt because he was already upset that Jesus could not come through Adam and Eve from being decieved by the Serpant. Plus God knows their souls are worth more than their flesh.
I don't understand the point you are making and where did God commit agressionary Genocide. Had he not defended his people, than you would have accused him of being weak and uncaring. There is no point to arguing with you because you all ready know everything their is to know. So good luck Mr know it all, perhaps one day you will really need him and he will not be there because you have said he is a falilure and Not Omnipotent, you are wrong, but you can save your own soul i guess?
Once again you prove yourself that youre really ignorant. Have you asked yourself when did this event occur? Do you know the date or you have no idea? Do you understand the meaning of civilized and uncivilized? To give you an idea watch Apocalypto by Mel Gibson. Your example doesnt fit in the story. If I will send you to Papua New Guinea or in the Amazon jungle to live there, what will you do when you get there? Thats my answer to your ignorant question.
Perhaps you are short of your knowledge of the God of the bible. "God is an efficient killer." He is not only an efficient killer, but also an efficient LIFE-GIVER as well. If you care looking it up in the Bible, in Deut. 32:39. He kills, but He also, makes alive. Another proof soon to happen in the future is in,John 5:28-29. To me, it is but logical to believe in a God who cannot lie, a God who can tell exactly what will happen in the future.His words are enough proof, for me,to believe in Him
"Perhaps you are short of your knowledge of the God of the bible.....His words are enough proof, for me,to believe in Him"
To: ian51002 How can God's words be proof enough when you are unable to prove those are his words to begin with? What proof do you have that they are HIS words and NOT a human author's?
Kenny, don't say "unable" yet. God's Words have no contradictions. it says in Proverbs 8:8-9 (please read) The word of God is quick, and powerful Heb. 4:12. Heaven and Earth shall pass away but not His Words Mat. 24:35 The commandments of the Lord Jesus are not his, but of God's. John 12:49. Why did God used humans to write the bible and not animals, simply because I Tim 2:4 says "who will have all men to be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the truth" please take time in reading your bible.
"God said it, I beleive it, that settles it" no logic there just be his bitch huh? Not only does God Kill, he also makes people suffer. Of course God gives people life, how can he kill them or make them suffer if he didn't? I'm sure you're just gonna brush this one off your shoulder but your religion is a fucking mess
"Of course God gives people life, how can he kill them or make them suffer if he didn't?"
It doesn't necessary follow that if a person suffers God is to be blamed. God is a "JUST" God. Eph 6:8 and Col. 3:25.
The early christians "glory in trubulations" Romans 5:3-5. because we believe in Romans 8:28. "ALL things work together for GOOD" "ALL" - including sufferings. The religion written in the Bible is the TRUE religion, it is not a mess. Get a copy of the bible and start reading it. Thanks
Did God bring the Flood, or did the evil people themselves? . Did God bring the death of the first born of Egypt? The answer to these questions is no of course. Had he not have inteviened in what the people of that land to go on much longer, we would not be here today to discuss why. One needs to study the heinous sins of those people, and their false gods, ie demons, and you would better understand why he asked the Israelites to do what they did.
Mrpl778: - There are many very evil people in the world today (in various countries), but since when do you see calamities targeted at those specific people nowadays?!
Well it's so obvious man sheesh ....... because they had to demonstrate their faith in Him /sarcasm on kelceed47 are you serious ? God works in mysterious ways and it was God's will blah blah blah Im so tired of that crap . Rather than take accountability you simply foist it onto God and say " He willed it so it must be so " . Close-minded , world is black and white , selfish , egocentric , megalomaniacal , ignorant , and stupid . Survey says !??!!???? .... douchebag
If God were to answer you directly on this question would you beleive in Him or would you find some reason to find fault in the Creator? God is in control of who lives and who dies. God directs and guides and uses the people He created to fulfill His plan. If people don't listen to the direction of God, God can do what ever God wants.
kimkerchner 2 months ago
@kimkerchner There's a lot to fault. He commits genocide, infanticide, allows slavery and rape, treats women and children and most people badly. And so on.
"If people don't listen to the direction of God, God can do what ever God wants. "
That makes zero sense.
humanistheart 1 week ago
@humanistheart God is the Creator of all things. God is holy and good. He gives us life and everything we need for existance. Man is ungrateful, unthankful and blames God for bad things that happens. God does not rape, or do evil. God (Jesus Chirst) loved us so much that He came to earth and died for our sins. He took the punishment that we all deserve. Jesus Christ saves us from the wrath of God on judgement day and grants eternal life for those who believe and repent. God is really great.
kimkerchner 1 week ago
@kimkerchner "God is holy and good." Oh, was hitler and mao good? If you think the abrahamic god, who commits mass genocide, and infanticide, and allows things like slavery, and has questionable rape practices is good, than you must love hitler and Mao.
humanistheart 1 week ago
@humanistheart God is holy and good and comparing hitler and mao to God is a riduclious comparison. The God of the old testament is the same God in the New Testament. God is in control of everything He made. Why are you fighting with God? He has given you life, air, food, shelter, clothing and a brain to think. Praise Him for all the great things you have. Ask God to revile Himself to you. Instead of looking for a fight with God. Why not try to understand His nature and have a relationship.
kimkerchner 1 week ago
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@kimkerchner "God is holy and good "
You sound like a broken record, but ignored all that was said to you. I'll repeat it until you actually address what is written.
If you think the abrahamic god, who commits mass genocide, and infanticide, and allows things like slavery, and has questionable rape practices is good, than you must love Hitler and Mao.
humanistheart 1 week ago
WOW.......!!! YOU SAID GOD TOLD THE PEOPLE TO GO AND KILL ,YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING MEANS AND SHOW THAT YOU ADMIT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. you admit that there is one God. So you admit that there is one God . I THOUGHT YOU ARE AN ATHEIST BUT RATHER YOU ARE A CONFUSED PERSON.
xquse18 2 months ago
It's far better to be an errant believer in Christianity than a devout heathen islamic pig.
pmoyer50 3 months ago
I think you make many assumptions and some rightly so due to many who claim to be christians who are actually not, according to the scriptures. I am more than capable of answering any question from scripture and make concessions where called for if you too are willing to make concessions where your logic does not follow. it is my contention that there is more evidence pointing to a creator than which points to science.
autofill67 3 months ago
Lets start at my premise. Can a Creator of anything have dominion over its creation?
autofill67 3 months ago
Thanks! I dig the tough questions and when you are done I have twenty more tough questions. And then twenty more.
jimbamboozled 4 months ago
Spiritual death is what God warned and admonished us all about. The Creator of all things can choose to do what He wills with His creation. This is nothing unusual. For what have you created that you do not have control? You cant say anything regarding life because no man originated life. Man can only attempt to alter life.
autofill67 5 months ago
Again easy answer. You keep making this mistake and it appears all your videos originate from the same premise. During the Mosaic Dispensation, the israelites were Gods people along with proselytes by whom the "seed" was to come through. The act of judgement is necessary as a product of justice. A heathen was one without hope not without God. There are many examples of people converting to judais upon recognizing and serving God. Physical death has always been the punishment for disobedience.
autofill67 5 months ago
@autofill67 so it was ok to slaughter many innocent people, and take many of them and force them to be sex slaves, as long as gods seed is going to come from them?
squirtrocks123 4 months ago
@squirtrocks123 Athiests and agnostics listen...All these terms youre using must defined. Innocent people, God, Salvation, etc...I thought this was logic and intellect based. At the very leastyou must admit that the termdefined in bible are subject to bible scrutiny as well as definition. Your arguments are all wrong when you take a bible term and take at liberty to define it for yourself. You have a better position by arguing the validity f]of the bible itself.
autofill67 4 months ago
@autofill67 okay, before i reply to this properly can you please expand and explain the sentence ' At the very leastyou must admit that the termdefined in bible are subject to bible scrutiny as well as definition'
squirtrocks123 4 months ago
@autofill67 "Again easy answer. "
So - when are you going to actually provide this "easy answer"? Your paragaph has no meaning. You talk a lot and say nothing.
To judge is to decide, nothing more. Not to kill. An "act of judgement" is just to say "yes or no". Imagine the judge up on his bench. Does he have a rifle? No. He has a gavel.
And the bit abou tthe heathen converting, WHAT HAS THAT TO DO WITH THE QUESTION?
You need to de-fog your thinking my friend.
OccamKant 3 months ago
God's help was the only way the Israelites could have beat their foes. God wanted them to show their faith in Him by fighting against the odds. If they would have fought in the first place, they wouldn't have had to wander in the desert for 40 years.
NionKirby 5 months ago
You forgot to mention that God says that if they dont listen to the ultimatum then they can kill them. If they accept the ultimatum then they shall be treated very, very well and be a part of the society.
And the neighboring people there where mostly supposedly devil worshipers or "giants".
It is a bit more complicated than just taking one or two verses.
dannywizz 6 months ago
@dannywizz If you were familiar with the Bible you wouldn't accuse me of cherry-picking one or two verses. There are dozens of examples of God commanding genocide. If someone told demanded that you give them YOUR house and all YOUR posessions because THEIR god told their great-great-great-grandfather that they could have your property, would you "accept the ultimatum" and move out?
(Please provide scriptures showing that the people killed were devil worshippers or giants.)
azsuperman01 6 months ago
@dannywizz While you're at it, please show verses for every commanded genocide showing that an ultimatum was issued prior to the command to "utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling"
azsuperman01 6 months ago
@azsuperman01 respect man for responding, thanks. I am just now reading the old testament and it is written in other chapters. I will get back to you later on this....
But we have to consider this.
1. It is Giants that inhabits these lands so is it "the devils" people?
2. They are given ultimatums and there are at least 1 o 2 neighbors that accept these treaties.
I'm not OK with killing and genocide but I think it is very much the HOW we concentrate on and not the WHY when we read it.
dannywizz 6 months ago
the answer is simple: it's a death cult. yahweh didn't even care to have new followers. he never told the israelites to try to convert the people, just kill them. blood, blood and more blood. judaism, ancient and modern, christianity, islam... all of them, death cults
GodsArePeopleToo 6 months ago
What part are you talking about? Exodus?
Alejandro1313sixx 6 months ago
k this question will have to take me into the bible as to every reason for the deaths of people because of there disobediance and sin there can be not mercy outside of Jesus Christ and him crucified..the people in Canaan were evil the giants were a result of fallen angels sexing with the people..when we are saved its not all roses or rainbows we fight against prinicipalities and powers..However when we trust in God the battle is easy..the israelites beat every enemy easy when they trusted..
MissChaceurz 8 months ago
@MissChaceurz in God however when they did not trust in him they were defeated and so those people continued to inhabit the land..same today when we do not trust in the lord we will be defeated by our sin satan or the world..
MissChaceurz 8 months ago
god just likes to **** with people
45678ret 9 months ago
It is not only a tough question but also very shocking for modern "christianity" where God is a nice gnome who "loves everybody". The answer is that God helped the israelites to win the battles as well. You may read about it in Deut 9 where it says God will go before them with a devouring fire to destroy the peoples. And in the whole book of Joshua. God wants to show how He can make this tiny weak people of Israel defeat those huge and mighty nations just like that
nilzor 9 months ago
lol consider the fact that those in the promised land before the israelites got there killed to get there and werent not meant to own that land. now imagine the Jones' as some italian mob that killed to get there and robin hood shows up to get it back for the israelites
sweetdietqueen 9 months ago
Didnt US settlers use the same argument? I guess as long as god approves, its ok.
genext7 9 months ago
Watch chuck missler "the origin of evil" for some insight on this.
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roadruncb 11 months ago
why is 1 of the ten comandments State not to kill but Yet God then says Kill
And why does God refer to his self in the 3rd person
goatmilk51 11 months ago
everyone on the planet .lets start a fund , so that we can build a time machine and end all this non-sense. humans are not worthy of any knowledge that is important . just sit back,live your life and pay the government their taxes. no one on the planet will ever know god.
MegaRaidersrule 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 I said in my previous post that fighting was an act of faith because the Israelites were a small tribe compared to its pagan neighbors. The Israelite's government didn't have a military arm so Moses had to produce the army to fight and wage war against their enemies. They needed 40 years to train an army of considerable size,produce and wield arms for war, govern themselves and own a territory; that's from being slaves to an independent state.
IMNODOCTOR 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 - The answer is really simple - God owns the universe and no country,state, or ethnic tribe would be willing to give their territory for free without a fight to a God and alien folks they don't recognize. A state must have government,people,sovereignty...and territory. The territory was chosen by God because that's where He wants his people, fighting was an act of faith, killing enemies and taking prisoners, a part of Holy war.
IMNODOCTOR 1 year ago
Your question is based on the assumption that the event really happened. I don't think that you believe that this event happened. Perhaps you are assuming that belief in God can be discounted by exposing the "cruelty of God" through the stories in the bible. There are theists who believe that a great deal of what is in the bible is mythical. The bible is not the pillar of God's existence--it is merely a signpost, and a poor one at times.
gsco82 1 year ago
The bible is supposed to teach us lessons about morality and human behavior, but JESUS (not taking his name in vain; literally asking him), why did all of those people ACTUALLY have to die? Just to prove god's point? We could have just as easily been born into an ancient time period. What if WE had to suffer on earth to become lessons for the future generations, AND spend eternity in hell because we're "tainted" and we "deserve" it? Would we recognize our loving, forgiving god?
GuitarMannnnnn 1 year ago
First of all this is the old testament. A covenant no longer in existence. You might want to read Genesis where the their were Giants in the land. Who were these giants? The sons of god (demons) that mated with the women and produced children. This was before the flood. Then the children of Israel go into the promised land and their are giants again recorded. Remember David killed the giant. And then Jesus said it shall be as in the days of Noah before he returns. Demon people again?
cshook123 1 year ago
@cshook123 "irst of all this is the old testament. A covenant no longer in existence. " What an odd thing to say. How very interesting you think that mass genocide and rape and what not doesn't matter because it was committed in the 'old testament' which by the way is the HEBREW BIBLE not the OT, lol.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart Where does it say mass rape in the Bible? Unless you were there you can not comment on what God does. We are now under grace since Christ died on the cross however God will always judge sin. Like I said before a lot of these people were not normal people. There were giants in the land. Read the Book of Enoch.
cshook123 1 year ago
@cshook 1) "Unless you were there you can not comment on what God does. " No one could have been there, as we are talking about fictional events inside stories. As for where is says mass rape, it does not say it. Nor does it say mass genocide, as that word did not exist in the times the stories were written. However the definition the creator of the word gave for it was the intentional elimination of a people be it culturally of physically, which fits the descriptions perfectly, just as forcing
humanistheart 1 year ago
@cshook123 2) sex on women fits the definition of rape perfectly. As for the book of Enoch, it is only excepted as cannon in the Ethiopian christian sect, so far as I know anyway. Additionally the Book of Enoch and Genesis has the physical bodies of the Nephalim, the giants you refer to, as destroyed, so considering both these facts I think you can agree that it's hardly relevant to the later genocides of the biblical stories. Additionally, it seems you are suggesting that one's species is a
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart The Nephalim were not gone because the Israelites saw giants when they came into the promised land and David killed a giant.
cshook123 1 year ago
@cshook123 Giants do not mean nephalim, nepahlim were a specific race. In Enoch Yahweh sends the flood to wipe out the nephalim. Are you telling me that your god failed to do something he intended to do? And that's just fiction, even in real life we have people that reach over 8 feet tall, and we call them giants too.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@cshook123 3) bases for death. If they are not human, regardless of their sentience, than they can be killed without a second thought. That's not good.
"God will always judge sin" Your character god will judge people for doing things he doesn't like. That's pretty immature.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart So what are you trying to say? That we decide what God does? God does not need your permission and God does not care what you think because he is God and he's the boss. Not us.
cshook123 1 year ago
@cshook123 "God does not care what you think because he is God and he's the boss. Not us."
Another example of your deity's moral failings. What you just described is tyranny, and it always ends badly.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart No God is a just God. The nephalim were spiritual beings angels that came from the sky. I believe these UFO' are the nephalim. They sure are concerned with reproduction.
cshook123 1 year ago
@cshook123 Riiiight, the 'ufos' LOL
humanistheart 1 year ago
@jwednall "All sin brings about the wrath of God."
You'll notice that sin is not the same as doing something wrong. What kind of being says do what I say or suffer? Or right, a lunatic. A mad, evil tyrant.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart that's right. All wrong doing is not sin. People can make a mistake. There is a big difference between that and specifically living in sin. What's your point? I never said anything about people who just simply make a mistake or do something wrong.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall I already told you my point. Simply torturing people for something another being doesn't like is not a valid way to go. Love me or suffer, that's the bottom line in your religion, and it's sick.
humanistheart 1 year ago
Who or What is God?
Juultjuh 1 year ago
I do like your video even though I don't agree with you. It is a comical adaptation to what has been written. Where does it say you must Kill innocent people?
unionof666666 1 year ago
Azsuperman01: In order to cleanse the land and keep it Holy. The residents caused their children to "pass through Fire" sacrificed to their false god. Yes God destroys: He has 2 sides like humans-His wrath against Law breakers and His LOVE and mercy seen in Jesus. It is up to us which side of Him we will KNOW in the end. Even those who believe in the GHOST realm should know -it only takes baby steps to realise there is also a FATHER of spirits.
IslandMystic 1 year ago
a scripture comes to mind....about the potter & clay ...isaiah 29:16..you turn things upside down as if the potter were thought to be the clay..shall what is formed say to him that formed it,"He Did Not Make Me", can the pot say to the potter "he knows nothing?"...cross ref. -rom.9:19-20...ps.103:14...jer.18:1...these are getting fun!
lunabirdie 1 year ago
In the time of Noah there were not a billion people on earth.I consider a person a kook who spends all their time refuting a God who does not exist,that's insanity.Rebuking myth is hysterical.How can any answer a person who believes fist the question a myth.A foolish man should not be answered with wisdom he is a fool to understand
polopowers1 1 year ago
what difference does it make if God has his followers slaughter people or if he does it himself what same goal is achieved
BlackPoisonxX 1 year ago
@BlackPoisonxX Yeah, that's like saying the general leading an army isn't responsible for any death if he doesn't kill directly with his own 2 hands.
humanistheart 1 year ago
GUESS WHAT, I WIN
watch this video, and guess what? This destroys everything you try to disprove.
/watch?v=Gc4HGQHgeFE
God exists. and I will pray that you find him.
GeneralDeer 1 year ago
HAHAHA dude you didn't have your usual straight and serious face in this video
monkeymajix 1 year ago
God had the Israelites kill them because it glorified Him more than any other alternative.
chrisalsup19 1 year ago
@chrisalsup19 How does making people slaughter other people glorify God?
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 Because then God accomplished His goal of giving them the promised land. But, remember, I'm not God so I don't know His plan.
chrisalsup19 1 year ago
@chrisalsup19 You are claiming that commanding his chosen people to slaughter pregnant women, suckling children, old men, etc. brought God more glory than if he had done the work himself and allowed his chosen people to move in without making them murder the current residents first... then when I ask how, you say "I'm not God so I don't know his plan"
Then by what basis can you argue that making God look like an evil tyrant brought him more "glory" than any alternative?
azsuperman01 1 year ago 2
@azsuperman01 you should look into reading the New Testament... forgiveness is EVERYWHERE in there! God bless!
jtclark17 1 year ago
@jtclark17 No, the concept of hell was introduced in the NT, and the hebrew people were already working toward a paradise so all the NT does is create a torture version of the afterlife.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 Again. The bible is a spiritual book. The promise land is our hearts. We have enemies on this land. The Philistines, and other peoples that were on the land are symbolic of demons that have possession of this land.( Our hearts) We are to take courage and go in and possess this land. That means we have to get rid of every spirit that is hindering us from overcoming.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall You have absolutely no concept of the scripture or history. Wow.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart Oh no? I have no concept of scripture? Please explain. Do you not understand that the old testament are just types and shadows of what is fulfilled in Jesus? Jesus said that all of the scriptures speak of him. What do you think that the bible is just a compositions of interesting stories and it has no spiritual value?
jwednall 1 year ago
@humanistheart Well, I just took a look at your profile. I see why you would think that now. Here is your problem, You think because you have a degree in religious studies that makes you an expert on what the scriptures mean. At least that is the feeling that I am getting. 1Cor. 2:14-But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall Here's a question, if you think the entire bibles is merely a metaphor, why quote any of it?
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart I don't think the entire bible is merely a metaphor and I never said that it was. There are a lot of things in the scriptures that are figurative however. Ezekiel 3:3-Then He said to me, "Son of man, eat what you find; eat this scroll, and go, speak to the house of Israel." God told Ezekiel to eat the scroll in this passage. Are you telling me that you think this means he ate a literal scroll? The scroll of course is symbolic of word of God. He is taking in the word cont.
jwednall 1 year ago
of God and bringing it to Israel.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
Right, and why isn't that made clear in churches when they outright put others down, or is it they are only fair on the spiritual plane while the physical one it's ok to treat others badly because they are not of your religious believes or they are gay.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel I don't treat others bad because they do not have my same religious beliefs, nor do I treat gays bad either. I may not agree with the life style, but I don't treat them bad. The churches are full of mean hateful people. I am not denying that, but there is a big difference between the harlot church and true church of Jesus.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
Right... and that message is so clear from the churchs, who/whoms figure heads publicly denounce gays, while their 'Official Statements & Views' are no where near what their LEADERS HAVE SAID PUBLICLY.
Though, I thought it was GODS PLACE to judge and not yours or any human, as to what is the real church and life styles, else you risk playing god by doing so.
Exerts from De holy books, and so on.
-Judge not, yet ye be judged your selfs-
-Live by the sword, die by the sword.-
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel No. First of all. We are not to judge those who are without. Those who are in the church judgement has to take place there according 1rst Peter 4:17-For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? When Jesus was telling us not to judge he was speaking of using unrighteous judgement. Remember he said that what measure of judgement that you use it will be measured back.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
So, shouldn't that mean you judge your self before others, and make sure you are carring the word and message of god without bias of the human nature? Or did I miss the point.
-"For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first,"
With - "Remember he said that what measure of judgement that you use it will be measured back" - In mind, that would suggest the more forgiving you are to others, the more forgiving your judgment will be.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Have I made a judgement against you? No I have not. All sin brings about the wrath of God. It does not matter whether you are an adulterer, a fornicator, homosexual, whatever the list goes on and on. The word is going to judge you and me and the rest of us without respect of persons. If you are in the church and practicing sin, something needs to be said to whomever it is. Jesus gave the process for this. If you are really interested you can look it up just as easily as I can. cont.
jwednall 1 year ago
I agree the church has no business judging the world. According to Jesus they are already judged. If people are mean to you because you are gay, that is wrong. However that does not mean that I have to agree with your lifestyle.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
agree or not, you still judge by going on about it. The problem is that near everyone has a warped sense of what judging really is, and forgets that even disproving of someones lifestyle is judging.
I Have such issues, though I do what I can to let it go before I blow it in their faces. Yes, there are limits to things, but I do not think you even realize how bad your judging gays, just because they are. If you think they should burn for it (Or repent) then you have judged.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Buddy I'm not the one going on about it. I have only mentioned the fact that you were gay one time. You are the one that is getting defensive about it. Whether I think that they should repent or not it does not matter. My opinion makes no difference. The word is what is right. I am just telling you that the word judges that kind of behavior and I am in agreement with the word. You can do whatever you like. It is really none of my business.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
Ya, your right, your opinion wouldn't matter. Though it does to you and even then it's still in your head and it gets used against you, and colors your views on others. (despite being powerless to do anything about it) In short, I'm not sure you get how much of a 'slippery slop' it is to disapprove/hate/dislike/etc. it is to keep such thoughts in your head.
How can you hold love when you hold negative thoughts of someone... and yes I just face-pawed about myself saying that.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel You can hold love in your heart because you realize that our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers of wickedness in high places. It is just like anyone who is living in sin. It does not matter what the particular sin is. The person is not the enemy it is the powers of darkness that are controlling their lives. We all start out in the image of Satan, lost and dead in our sins. It is not until we come to Jesus with all our hearts that we are any different.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
Ya, that's a load of bad words. *shakes my head* ya know it gets sickening to hear that. "Your born sinful, even without doing a dang thing, your a Sinful devil." Just can it. I know that is a load of crap, and the creepy ways people attribute all the good deeds to jesus is just ... wrong. Yes I don't have a doubt he does good deeds, but he doesn't do all of them, and he and god aren't the reason everyone makes it through hard times. Some times it'd be good to hear something..
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Well, my friend you and I are not getting anywhere with this conversation. You don't agree with me and I don't agree with you. If you don't believe the word of God is the truth that's fine. You have the right to believe whatever you want to and so do I. I guess we'll know for sure one day.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
I plan to find out. Believe me on that. I got alot of questions, or very little (depending on what's there) for God, in what ever form.
Tell you what, if ya can do an experiment, and find out how many church members actually donate to charities, and I don't mean the major ones, I mean the ones that end up right in your face. (the donation boxes at banks, conviences stores, cash registers at regular stores, etc) and you might be alittle supprised, that more non-Christians donate.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Well that's lovely, but I believe that I have already explained to you that most of what is so called church today is not really the church of Jesus. They have a form of godliness but they deny the power there of. I'm not defending most so called Christians or churches. I am defending the scriptures.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
You do realize that the scriptures where hand picked long after jesus death, by the roman catholic church council and, not every scripture that exsisted was allowed in, and even supposing they were true, that makes the holy books rather incomplete and misleading since all the stories were put in place for them, by the council.
The following versions only inturpeted the words for us, and supposedly corrected some misspellings.
The scriptures are man made.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel No they were not picked by the roman catholic church. That is a common argument that people make that do not want to accept them. The different versions were even translated from different texts. I hope you really do not believe that the modern translations are just merely corrections to the more archaic ones. If you do then you need to do some more homework. You believe the scriptures are man made. I believe they are the word of God. Like I said you live your life and I will mine.
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
Besides it being letters to other people as advice from one person, DOESN"T MAKE IT HOLY OR THE WORD OF GOD. I am actually more shocked that most to near all the accounts of the bible are from the male side of things, and fail to account for how the female followers saw it. (No I'm not female)
Though as far as I am concerned the most that came from god was the comandments, and the rest is mostly just members trying to understand it, with very little in it jesus saying somethin.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Okay. You still did not produce any evidence to refute what I said about the different translations being taken from different texts. You just called me an idiot and keep stating your opinion over again in different words. It is amazing how people like you are the first ones to get upset and say someone is judging you. You have just proven that you are just as bad or worse by the comment you just made. Like I said, if that is the case then you have nothing to worry about correct?
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
That's almost to funny, when "different translations being taken from different texts" is really broad, and the differences between bibles are mere word changes. Though what you said implies more then one book and in that NO SHIT they came from different sources. (New Testiments/Old Testiments/ETC) I was not talking about books printed that were not the Bible it self.
OH I know I've got issues, and Guess what I'll have to face them just like anyone else.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Okay buddy. Whatever you say.
jwednall 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Beside that, why do you argue with someone about something if you do not believe that it is for real. I don't believe in santa, or the easter bunny. I'm not going to argue with someone about their existence. It does not matter to me. If you feel that Jesus and the scriptures are just fairy tales then I wouldn't concern myself with it. After all what difference would it make in the end anyhow?
jwednall 1 year ago
@jwednall
Yes, that's what I said is they were fairy tails. Idiot.
*sighs* I know something is there, and Yes the Roman catholic Pieced the bible tog ether from the other books, picking and choosing which books would be allowed to make the bible.
Besides, the fact remains that VERY LITTLE in the books are actually written by or even inspired directly by jesus or god, and most of it is personal accounts from others, and quite litterally mis-understood, ...
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@KernsNoel Okay. Then like I said. I'm an idiot. So don't worry about it. Again you have nothing to worry about do you??
jwednall 1 year ago
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@jwednall "Beside that, why do you argue with someone about something if you do not believe that it is for real."
Because people make choices based on their beliefs, and when those beliefs have no evidence to support them, or in fact have evidence to show they are not true, those people will inevitably make bad decisions. Those decisions will then have consequences for those around them.
Avicaris 1 year ago
@jwednall
Like how some was nice just for being nice, and it wasn't some divine bull, when I go for a walk to get a drink, and drop my change into the charity box at the 7-11, it's not god or jesus that helped it's Thousands on thousands of people donating their change and money to de charity, and I get sick of credit being put on jesus or god without them doing a fisking thing for it. Ya, Now if God came to me, and told me to put my change in their, THEN IT"S HIS/HER IDEA. (as an example)
KernsNoel 1 year ago
@chrisalsup19 And the fact that he needed to do all that evil to accomplish his goal only proves the point of the video. Your God is an evil , sadistic monster and it's a great thing he does not exist. Epic fail on your part.
RockBanned 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 GOD killsa people cause people deserve to die you are so blinded that you think you are good don't you? you think you are a moral being on your own? the people in the promised land were sinners deserving GODS judgement they deserved to die just like us today but you are such a hipocrite you think you a good ole boy don't you? you were never a christian i heard your story its weak you never knew GOD and it clearly shows by your fruits
patriotsfan1379 7 months ago
@patriotsfan1379 And what makes people more deserving to die than this nameless character you call god?
You call people sinners, but sin is meaningless, it has no inherent meaning beyond being something your imaginary tyrant doesn't like at the moment. Big deal.
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart if you were yto have read the bible than you would have seen that these people were not so nice or moral andif you call them innocent what does that sayabout you?
patriotsfan1379 6 months ago
@chrisalsup19 Sorry, I don't buy that. We've got terrorists right in the current world who murder to glorify God. How do we know that the Israelites did't write history to justify the slaughter? Humans use God to justify their sins. Every army, every invading country from the dawn of civilization claimed that God(s) is glorified by their slaughtering of others and stealing their land.
God said don't kill,don't steal,don't covet. No exceptions.
God doesn't need humans to do the dirty work.
etonks 6 months ago
@etonks "God said don't kill,don't steal,don't covet. No exceptions."
Really, NO exceptions. So the times he commanded them to commit mass genocide and infanticide isn't an exception to don't kill? The times he commands them to kill homosexuals, wayward teenagers, and women who don't cry out enough while being raped isn't and exception to don't kill? How is ordering people to kill in line with ordering them not to kill?
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart
First off, I wasn't talking to you.
Secondly, you clearly have a comprehension problem. The more you troll, the more the show your stupidity. That's not an insult that's a fact.
Look, you were fun, so easy to get going. Your stupidity just simply bores me. I'll not be acknowledging you anymore you aren't worth my time.
etonks 6 months ago
@etonks Frist off, I'll correct any contradictory statements you make, regardless of who they are directed to.
Your second portion contains nothing of value, if you want to claim I have a comprehension problem (clear projection on your part) than support it with facts. You know, those things you've avoided for days now?
Ah, and the 3rd, you choose more insults over an actual response because you can't operate on my higher level of intellect. It's good you recognize you're outclassed.
humanistheart 6 months ago
in your religion what is you eternal promise
ButtonMasher15 1 year ago
Analogy win!
jonwillis 1 year ago
I guess you believe the Jews always live in Egypt. Did it ever occur to you that they were taking back land that was taken from them earlier?
AXESMI 1 year ago
@AXESMI - You ignored the question. Why did God make the Israelites murder so many people in order to take possession of the land? God was fully capable of killing everyone before the Isrealites got there, but instead he commands them to kill every living thing, giving special instructions not to spare infants, pregnant women, and old people.
azsuperman01 1 year ago 3
@azsuperman01 People use God to justify bad behavior. They do it all the time in ALL faiths. 9/11 anyone?
Just because it's in the Bible or any other Holy Book (written by men) doesn't make it right. Because as far as we know, the ONLY thing God actually wrote were the Ten Commandments.
Did God really have the Israelites kill everyone or did they decide to do it themselves and then blamed God? Remember, the Bible was written by men. It's going to be skewed to their side just a bit.
etonks 8 months ago
@etonks Why would you assume those were written by a god, and no by men as well? God's don't exist, so it seems more probable those were by men too.
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart You have no proof that God doesn't exist as I have none, nor do I offer, proof that God does exist. That's where faith comes in and obviously, with your low intellect you can't grasp faith and therefore have to attack it. Like throwing stones at the moon.
Go watch something about muscles it seems that your head's full of them.
etonks 6 months ago
@etonks There's plenty of proof gods don't exist. Name one you want disproved. Which god are you talking about?
My low intellect a? You can't make your point with actual reason or logic so you resort to petty attacks. Yeah, that really shows off your 'intellect'. Should I provide you the stats on how atheists on average have higher education and IQ's than theists such as yourself?
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart Me thinks you doth protest too much! You aren't really sure if you are an atheist or not. Your obnoxious behavior proves you aren't. You need so desperately to convince. You can't even discuss a topic without being abrasive or insulting. You need what other people tell you to think, hence your quotes. You're not really an atheist at all. I see it now. You're a fake! You are just trying to impress the ones you want to emulate. You're not even your own person. OMG, what a poser!
etonks 6 months ago
@humanistheart First prove Dark Matter. It is a strong theory right now but not yet proven. So, prove that first, it should be simple for someone as "Educated" as you think you are. Get your proof acknowledged by the scientific community, win an award. You still will not be able to prove or disprove faith. It dwells within your soul, It is a tangible intangible but cannot be proven or disprove via the steps of a scientific theory.
However, you have proven to me to be a poser. :D
etonks 6 months ago
@etonks And now you're trying to shift the subject, in loo of nothing, to dark matter. You keep claiming things regarding education, I pointed out that Christians on average have low education and intellect. You decided to ignore that and hope you wouldn't be called on it. But hey, just keep changing the subject when your called on your lies.
Oh, and you didn't say faith can't be disproved, you said a god couldn't. Now you changed your story. Real bright guy you are.
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart REALLY? are you really this dumb? You just don't get it. Your stupidity is astounding! Thank God for the autonomic system or you'd forget to breathe! I NEVER said that God CAN be proven. IN fact I have ALWAYS said Faith/God these things can't be proven or dis~proven. This is something you clearly cannot comprehend.
Your claim is unfounded & from out of your ass. That's all your comment it was worth. Your ass talks a lot! You should go on the road with that.
You're still funny!
etonks 6 months ago
@humanistheart Okay, I just have to address this.... "in loo"???? LOL!! Your misuse of "you're"& "your" is expected, but "Loo"??? And it doesn't even make sense in your sentence. "In lieu" means "Instead of" so you want to say "...instead of nothing, to Dark Matter"? HA HA WHAT? If you want to impress people with your vocabulary, try knowing what the words mean and spell check.
etonks 6 months ago
@etonks In lieu of of something is grammatically correct. But then you'd need some education to know that. You seem to lack such a thing. Also, loo doesn't get picked up by the spell check because it is a word of it's own. But again, you wouldn't know that. But since you did not address anything in the post, I'll simply re-post it for you until you do, as you keep trying to shift the subject.
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart It's a word on it's own.See, that's what spell check is supposed to do. loo/Noun: A toilet. Once again you are wrong and make something up to make you "look" correct. Your ass just has so much to say. "...toilet of nothing, to dark matter." Oh yeah, THAT makes much better sense.
You keep saying I am not educated because I have faith. I say you are an idiot because...well your posts say it all, poser.
You were fun, so easy to get going. But now you just simply bore me.
etonks 6 months ago
@etonks No, see what spell check does it correct a misspelled word, few versions correct grammar. For instance if someone means to right too but leaves an o off and spells to, most spell checks don't pick that up. Also, toilet is not the only thing loo can mean. You're welcome for the education.
"You keep saying I am not educated because I have faith" No, I keep correcting your claims atheists are of low intellect and education with the facts that we on average have notably higher amounts of...
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart ...both. I gave you sources and the stats on it, which you chose to ignore, opting instead to use petty insults. Insults such as "REALLY? are you really this dumb? You just don't get it. Your stupidity is astounding!"
All an attempt to distract from your own debunked claims.
humanistheart 6 months ago
@humanistheart And now you're trying to shift the subject, in lieu of nothing, to dark matter. You keep claiming things regarding education, I pointed out that Christians on average have low education and intellect. You decided to ignore that and hope you wouldn't be called on it. But hey, just keep changing the subject when your called on your lies.
Oh, and you didn't say faith can't be disproved, you said a god couldn't. Now you changed your story. Real bright guy you are.
humanistheart 6 months ago
@AXESMI Now, before I say this, please understand that I am a Jew myself. Ok, that being established, there is abolutely no historical evidence that we were ever enslaved in Egypt, or that there were ever significant numbers of Jews living in Egypt prior to the Diaspora. The story of the Exodus still has spiritual significance, but it is not historical evidence, any more than the other absurd stories running around in the various scriptures.
Bernstein1917 1 year ago
@Bernstein1917 Please note that, when I say no significant Jewish population in Egypt, I am excepting Alexandria during the Ptolemaic/early Roman periods. I'm embarassed to say it, but that did slip my mind a moment ago. Just clarifying.
Bernstein1917 1 year ago
That's why Matt from ACA describes God as the Mafia Boss. Perfect comparison.
clipsryan 1 year ago
In the spirit of Lent, I make an effort to reflect on my faith. Part of that introspection involves seeking out differing points of view to challenge myself. I came across these series of videos today, and I must say, these aren't tough questions... at all. Any Christian who has studied their faith with any diligence can easily answer these questions. That isn't to say there aren't tough questions, but I would reconsider your position if these are the questions which led to your loss of faith.
botwindfish 1 year ago
@botwindfish let's see your answer, catholic guy. why didn't god kill the canaanites himself? why did he need some dude to blow a trumpet to make a city collapse?
arachnophile01 1 year ago
Okay im not saying that it is right to kill people like that but the reason in the bible it says god told them to kill the people was because god wanted them to prove there faith. Again im not saying its right im just giving you an answer why god would have the them do that.
legnase 1 year ago
@ian51002 How are you sure that the bible is the true religion? And how are you sure that there even is any superior Power named God? Why make people fear death and hell just because someone made that up so they could make money? Religion is a way to Control people and make money.
Religion is also a way to explain all the unexplainable and an old school form of laws...
It might be that that the bible was intended to be for the good of people, but that doesn't make it good.
Bussemand2 1 year ago 7
@Bussemand2 LOLZ!!! Its so amazing how us two view things so differently! Evolution is written all over you're statement!!! Think about it, did they TRULY prove the Big Bang? Yet its in the text books. Did they ever TRULY prove humans came from apes? Its in our books though. My high school science book tells me my farthest ancestors were bacteria. HAVE THEY TRULY EVER PROVEN IT??? NO. Its accepted only ... no I think I'll stop now for respect reasons.
seanfenrir 1 year ago
Studies of background radiation and sciences that are out of my knowledge can date the universe back to around 5 seconds after the "supposed" singularity 14 billion years ago, I believe. So there is evidence to support this.
We can trace the evolution of the human species back to African Apes. Following this trend, we can best guest that we all came from a simple creature (single celled maybe) to this now. Evidence.
There is no evidence for anything supernatural. That's why it's not in science
coreygames 1 year ago
@Bussemand2 Ignorance
JoeyTheGuitarDude 1 year ago
Prove the bible with the bible !!!! is stupid.
Bible is not written by god , but by man under "influence" by god.
roffpoff 1 year ago
@roffpoff
The bible was written by man under the influence of alcohol.
Lose the delusion, live free or don't.
wackydan74 1 year ago
@wackydan74 actually, the bible was editorialised from fan fiction in the alcoholic times
arachnophile01 1 year ago
ZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!! Wheres the tough questions at?????
Because He wanted them killed. This isn't that difficult to follow.
fivepointbaptist 1 year ago
@fivepointbaptist
youremissing the whole question... "Because god wanted to" is not an answer. Thats already,for purpose of argument, the obvious fact. The question is what kind of sick rationale is this for a merciful loving god... Or anyone for that matter...
Trob92 1 year ago
Could you show me where the bible says that God is ONLY merciful and love? Why is it that people forget to include holy, just and wrathful when discussing the attributes of God?
And my answer below is an answer. The question was "why didn't God just give the Jews the land with no one on it." Answer, because God wanted them to kill the wicked inhabitants. I dunno, maybe to get them used to war since there were going to many to come.
fivepointbaptist 1 year ago
@fivepointbaptist: Hmm... so much for slow to anger and abounding in love, eh?
inphanta 1 year ago
Your still alive aren't you? I'd say that is a perfect example of slow to anger.
fivepointbaptist 1 year ago
@fivepointbaptist: Quite an aggressive fellow aren't you? WWJD, eh?
inphanta 1 year ago
For pointing out the obvious? You don't want to know what Jesus would do. I'm a pussy cat compared to the Almighty.
fivepointbaptist 1 year ago
@fivepointbaptist: And so is "the devil" by the sounds of it...
inphanta 1 year ago
You are speaking of this old testament (I assume) story as if it really happened, or that all theists must believe this story and be satisfied with the God in the story. Clearly you don't believe the story, but you seem to think that if the story is mythical then God doesn't exist. I also don't believe the story, but I do believe in the existence of God. Maybe alot of the bible is distorted or outright false, but that doesn't disprove the existence of God. That is up to each individual.
gsco82 2 years ago
you sir are an idiot...this actually did happen...maybe if you knew what the canaanites were doing then you would understand it more...it was called Herem..ever heard of Baal worship...ya it was huge back then (child sacrifces...you know the whole schibang). God gave the canaanites 400 yrs to change, he waited until the sin reached its full potential and then he killed them...god was patient and as forgiving as He could be
777godisgreat 2 years ago
@777godisgreat I stand by my first comment. The person who made this video, azsuperman01 likely did not believe that the events actually happened--he certainly was not praising God in his characterization of the events. I am not a bible scholar--maybe the events really did happen. I don't really care, as it doesn't influence my concept of God.
gsco82 2 years ago
Well you have to study Gen 6:4 and let me ask you a question.
What if an extraterrestrial form of life somehow interbred with humanity and spawned children that were bigger stronger and cannibalistic towards there half brothers? What would you want to do today?
What if you found out the people in that country were child molesters and child killers? Would they deserve to die?
You see we get High and Moral when we don't know the whole story!!
God never promised that we would know everything today!
revelashaun68 2 years ago
In the final anaylsas God will be vindicated for all he has done whether you all think he was gently guiding us, or genocidal like those of you who are wrong say, so i will believe the first, and when i come to stand before him on my last day. Then i will know why things happened the way they did. Because if you have a right mind you know the truth all ready. So start with a heart of Love in your search, and He will show you the truth of the thing. God be praised, and free will is tuff.
Mrpl778 2 years ago
This question is actually an easy one:
Jesus is to come from the Jews in the promise land and God didn't want any culture of pagans to change the way of life to ensure the best outcome. Even though this failed I image God took this drastic attempt because he was already upset that Jesus could not come through Adam and Eve from being decieved by the Serpant. Plus God knows their souls are worth more than their flesh.
nazra7 2 years ago
so you say god tried and failed? omnipotent my ass.
bradmanthethird 2 years ago
Another really tough question, If an alien race came to earth to wipe us out should we war with them for our right to survive?
Should we have went to war with Hitler or should we just have let him conquer us and make us slaves of the Third Reich?
These were the same lot, and maybe that is why? These people were mixing with the fallen angels. and only God knows what else they were into.?
Mrpl778 2 years ago
you can't seriously be equating self defense with agressionary genocide can you?
bradmanthethird 2 years ago
I don't understand the point you are making and where did God commit agressionary Genocide. Had he not defended his people, than you would have accused him of being weak and uncaring. There is no point to arguing with you because you all ready know everything their is to know. So good luck Mr know it all, perhaps one day you will really need him and he will not be there because you have said he is a falilure and Not Omnipotent, you are wrong, but you can save your own soul i guess?
Mrpl778 2 years ago
Once again you prove yourself that youre really ignorant. Have you asked yourself when did this event occur? Do you know the date or you have no idea? Do you understand the meaning of civilized and uncivilized? To give you an idea watch Apocalypto by Mel Gibson. Your example doesnt fit in the story. If I will send you to Papua New Guinea or in the Amazon jungle to live there, what will you do when you get there? Thats my answer to your ignorant question.
superwatchman09 2 years ago
Perhaps you are short of your knowledge of the God of the bible. "God is an efficient killer." He is not only an efficient killer, but also an efficient LIFE-GIVER as well. If you care looking it up in the Bible, in Deut. 32:39. He kills, but He also, makes alive. Another proof soon to happen in the future is in,John 5:28-29. To me, it is but logical to believe in a God who cannot lie, a God who can tell exactly what will happen in the future.His words are enough proof, for me,to believe in Him
ian51002 2 years ago
"Perhaps you are short of your knowledge of the God of the bible.....His words are enough proof, for me,to believe in Him"
To: ian51002 How can God's words be proof enough when you are unable to prove those are his words to begin with? What proof do you have that they are HIS words and NOT a human author's?
kenny5271957 2 years ago
Kenny, don't say "unable" yet. God's Words have no contradictions. it says in Proverbs 8:8-9 (please read) The word of God is quick, and powerful Heb. 4:12. Heaven and Earth shall pass away but not His Words Mat. 24:35 The commandments of the Lord Jesus are not his, but of God's. John 12:49. Why did God used humans to write the bible and not animals, simply because I Tim 2:4 says "who will have all men to be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the truth" please take time in reading your bible.
ian51002 1 year ago
"God said it, I beleive it, that settles it" no logic there just be his bitch huh? Not only does God Kill, he also makes people suffer. Of course God gives people life, how can he kill them or make them suffer if he didn't? I'm sure you're just gonna brush this one off your shoulder but your religion is a fucking mess
imoshtoburritoes 2 years ago
"Of course God gives people life, how can he kill them or make them suffer if he didn't?"
It doesn't necessary follow that if a person suffers God is to be blamed. God is a "JUST" God. Eph 6:8 and Col. 3:25.
The early christians "glory in trubulations" Romans 5:3-5. because we believe in Romans 8:28. "ALL things work together for GOOD" "ALL" - including sufferings. The religion written in the Bible is the TRUE religion, it is not a mess. Get a copy of the bible and start reading it. Thanks
ian51002 1 year ago
Did God bring the Flood, or did the evil people themselves? . Did God bring the death of the first born of Egypt? The answer to these questions is no of course. Had he not have inteviened in what the people of that land to go on much longer, we would not be here today to discuss why. One needs to study the heinous sins of those people, and their false gods, ie demons, and you would better understand why he asked the Israelites to do what they did.
Mrpl778 2 years ago
yes, we should enact gods core values as laws, whenever someone commits a heinous crime we will execute their first born son.
bradmanthethird 2 years ago
Mrpl778: - There are many very evil people in the world today (in various countries), but since when do you see calamities targeted at those specific people nowadays?!
Rich7714 2 years ago
Well it's so obvious man sheesh ....... because they had to demonstrate their faith in Him /sarcasm on kelceed47 are you serious ? God works in mysterious ways and it was God's will blah blah blah Im so tired of that crap . Rather than take accountability you simply foist it onto God and say " He willed it so it must be so " . Close-minded , world is black and white , selfish , egocentric , megalomaniacal , ignorant , and stupid . Survey says !??!!???? .... douchebag
xtop23 2 years ago