Luke 22:70 "Are You the Son of God, then?" And He said to them, "Yes, I am." NAS, "You are right in saying I am." NIV, "You say that I am." NLV, “You say that I am.” ESV, "You say that I am." NKJ,
'Ye say it, because I AM." Young's literal.
Your "Michael" would NOT take credit if he were not, but my Jesus does!
Psalms 45:6 6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom. JEHOVAH
Heb 1:8 But of the Son He (Jehovah) says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM. JESUS!!
Looks like GOD to me!
John 5: 39 "You examine the Scriptures carefully because you suppose that in them you have eternal life. Yet they testify about ME." Eternal life is in JESUS.
@letusreason1234 Who ever said that Jesus is a Trinity? Certainly not the Trinitarians. Now, if the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, how come you say that the Bible says Jesus is not a Trinity? The whole point of the video was not to discuss the trinity (that has been done in many videos), but to show how consistently the WT quotes from sources that are so unreliable and/or quote from sources in incomplete manner, just to give credibility to their publications.
For one Jesus was Created by God (Colossians 1:15) and (Revelation 3:14)
People saw Jesus, but no one has EVER seen God (1 John 4:12)
Jesus himself said that God was ONE and NOT 3 (Mark 12:29)
God is ONE PERSON, and not 3 people
(Hebrews 9:24) For Christ entered, not into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, now to appear before ""THE PERSON OF GOD""
@letusreason1234 None of those say Jesus is a Trinity. Colossians 1:15 ,The Greek word translated Firstborn is "prōtotokos" and it means foremost, supreme, first in rank. "in all creation" so means he holds the special status of preeminence and headship over everything in heaven and on earth that He created. Col. 1:16 says "For BY him all things were created.
@letusreason1234 Rev 3:14 "beginning of the creation of God" does not mean he was created. It just means he was there when everything was created. 1 John 4:12, no one has seen God in his divine nature, in all his glory in heaven but Jesus was also a man and as a man he was able to be seen. Philippians 2:5-10 explains how Jesus, although he was in the form of God, which means he was God, came to earth and lowered himself as a man therefore in his flesh he was able to be seen.
@letusreason1234 Mark 12:29, here Jesus was quoting from Deuteronomy 6:4. God is ONE. One God with three distinct beings in one with the same power, same glory, same divinity. They share the SAME essence, therefore the same God. Hebrews 9:24, is coming from the view of the man Jesus going back to heaven to be with the Father and again joining him with the glory they shared "before the world began" John 17:5 .
@letusreason1234: It so sad you can't see the truth in what you yourself has just quoted.
No one is denying God is ONE, God, that's a given. What form does God take? Three distinct parts we call persons/spirits. The Father (the head, has all authority) the Son (the mediator, the judge) and the Holy Spirit, (the comforter, the one who convicts).
Barb you know witnesess smoked, had christmas, easter,birthdays but gave them up just like symbolism we gave up touching the unclean thing and became refined by God. Paganism had mixed into truth for centuries and the process of whitening our robes has taken time. Its that simple. Show me one doctrine we follow now that is false.
JC....just because you quote an expert doesn't mean you believe in all his beliefs...surely you recognize this?.....You quote the watchtower...that doesn't mean you don't agree with somethings the watchtower believes....See how that works?...
The bottom line is this JC...Jesus never claimed to be God Almighty and No one in the bible taught the trinity. Perhaps you should concentrate on these two aspects.
@JAKEV25 : Wow! I can't believe how blind you are.
Let me explain the difference to you as you obviously can't see it.
The difference is this, the WTS is using a dubious source to support it's false doctrine. On the other hand JCdiedforall quotes the WT only to show that it is wrong and not scriptural. She is not using is in any way to support her beliefs, as a matter of fact it is the exact opposite.
@JAKEV25 Answer this: Did anyone in the bible believe that some 1900 years later that a false prophet would represent God on earth? One that used the pyramids to form it's cornerstone? One that would deny the very essence of God Himself? One that would deny His son? One that would make false predictions over and over and over?
@abbyguy HMMMMMM.......Does anyone believe that someone named Martin Luther would leave the most pagan church and start his own religion some 1500 years after Christ's death? Someone that predicted the return of Christ himself? I am sorry you have fallen hook line and sinker for the trinity dogma...I suggest you do some research.
@JAKEV25 : Funny how you respond only by avoiding the issue brought before you by flipping it around. You are a master at it. Have you taken some legal training?
Luther changed the direction of the church by eliminating extraneous dogma and showing that we can come before God and do not need a man to represent us here on earth.
He never denied core beliefs though, as you cult does. BIG, BIG, DIFFERENCE!
Nice try though. Maybe you who should read history other than what the WTS provides you..
@abbyguy This women seems to be all tied down by "Orions Belt" and obsessed with Egyptian theology,how can you have an open agreement with a person who strongly believes in triads of gods.
@ansermam: 1 Cor 2:14 "The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 16...we have the mind of Christ."
Until you start looking at Christ the right/correct way, you will never understand.
You may want to start by admitting Christ is NOT Michael. Read Hebrews 1, it explains it quite nicely.
@abbyguy Have you not come to know the sacred secret regarding the seed of the women(Gen 3:15),Michael,'(Heb.,Mi-kha.'el') Lit meaning "Who Is Like God" Da10:13,21; Da 12:1; Rev 12:7; Jude 8.,11,Explains nicely, Also 1Thessalonians 4:16.Rev 19:14-16. Also Explain to me please, what exactly is the Holy Spirit in case you might know.Please reply...
He speaks to man John 16:13 "...the Spirit of truth, is come, he ... shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak ..."
He has the capacity to love (Romans 15:30), and we can have fellowship with Him (2 Corinthians 13:14)
He has intelligence and is capable of making decisions. 1 Corinthians 2:10, 11; Isaiah 40:13; Acts 15:28 There's much more proof, but I will not burden you now.
Tell me why you wouldn't believe after this amount of hard evidence?
@abbyguy So a reply , I do understand. Like the all wise King Solomon once said(Proverbs 1:1-7) But I will admit, we are all in perfect, and I know Even like the wise King Solomon and even the chosen ones we are all subject to falling.so in response to that we must Love Yahowah with all are mind are heart and soul, and love our neighbors as we love our self, Thes are the two "Greatest Commandments" all other laws hang on these two laws.
@JAKEV25 "just because you quote an expert doesn't mean you believe in all his beliefs"
But, if he doesn't believe Mary was a virgin and that Christianity came from Christ, should he be considered an "expert" by Christians on the truths of Christian theology?
1~@JAKEV25 "You may agree with some things that the WBTS say......do you agree with everything?"
You actually need to ask JW's this, for they quote the Catholic Encyclopedia and various other non-JW sources as support for their beliefs when such things agree with their theology. So, in your opinion, is it okay to only agree in part, or, should one believe in all or none of a doctrine?
2~@JAKEV25 For example, in the 2006 Awake article "Did Jesus Really Die on a Cross?", they quote Adolphe-Napoleon Didron-a Roman Catholic journalist. Do they agree with everything the Roman Catholic Church say? They also quote J. D. Parsons in this same article. Who is he? Do they agree with everything? But, to answer your question, yes, I agree with some things they say, but not everything. No difference than I agree with some things Buddah taught, but not his religion.
According to some of the Jews, He never claimed to be the Christ, either. "How long do you make us doubt? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly." (Jn 10:24) But, did He?
@rpierre777 Indeed he did...John 4 for instance......Do you want others?
The Pharisees and Saducees whated to know if Jesus claimed to be the promised Messiah. Anyone that claimed to be YHWH in our time or Jesus' time was NOT accused of blasphemy......people just thought they were crazy.....but claiming to be the Messiah was a different story.
@JAKEV25 "Indeed he did...John 4 for instance......Do you want others?"
I know He did. I was asking because even though He said who He was, there were those who did not want to believe it. Just like the fact that He IS God. There are those who just do not want to believe it. They can't understand that He is God in the flesh. So, He is both God and Man. Only God can show us how to perfectly be sons of God. Only God can be our perfect example of who/how we need to be.
@rpierre777 Let me try to help you down off that ladder....1) Jesus never claimed to be God he claimed to be the Messiah who was to have a special relationship with the one true God John 17:3
2) NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE in the bible taught that Jesus was YHWH quite the contrary Jesus has the same God as Abraham..Moses....Noah...and all the prophets.... He want YOU to have the same God he has :)
@JAKEV25 Everything Jesus said and did was to be an example for us to know how to be children of God-physically and mentally. Jesus became the perfect son. (1 Pet 2:21) You keep repeating "no one taught that Jesus was YHWH", so, I'll keep repeating 2 Cor 5:19, and 1 Tim 3:16....Which is more credible, your position, or the scriptures?
Lol.....
The quote, and whether you agree with the authors, is besides the point.... The BIBLE itself says that Jesus is not a Trinity. Period.
Is the Author of the Bible wrong?
Lol.... this is a pretty silly angle to work isnt it?
letusreason1234 4 months ago
@letusreason1234: No, the author of the bible is not wrong, but you are.
Do you think He would say; I AM GOD? Oh wait, He did!
Ex 3:14 "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"...
Luke 22:70 "Are You the Son of God, then?" And He said to them, "Yes, I am." NAS, "You are right in saying I am." NIV, "You say that I am." NLV, “You say that I am.” ESV, "You say that I am." NKJ,
'Ye say it, because I AM." Young's literal.
Your "Michael" would NOT take credit if he were not, but my Jesus does!
abbyguy 4 months ago
@letusreason1234:
Psalms 45:6 6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom. JEHOVAH
Heb 1:8 But of the Son He (Jehovah) says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM. JESUS!!
Looks like GOD to me!
John 5: 39 "You examine the Scriptures carefully because you suppose that in them you have eternal life. Yet they testify about ME." Eternal life is in JESUS.
abbyguy 4 months ago
@letusreason1234 Who ever said that Jesus is a Trinity? Certainly not the Trinitarians. Now, if the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, how come you say that the Bible says Jesus is not a Trinity? The whole point of the video was not to discuss the trinity (that has been done in many videos), but to show how consistently the WT quotes from sources that are so unreliable and/or quote from sources in incomplete manner, just to give credibility to their publications.
edpanu1960 4 months ago
@letusreason1234 Show me what scripture it says "Jesus is not a Trinity'?
jojoneli76 3 weeks ago
@jojoneli76
Well, there are several...
For one Jesus was Created by God (Colossians 1:15) and (Revelation 3:14)
People saw Jesus, but no one has EVER seen God (1 John 4:12)
Jesus himself said that God was ONE and NOT 3 (Mark 12:29)
God is ONE PERSON, and not 3 people
(Hebrews 9:24) For Christ entered, not into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, now to appear before ""THE PERSON OF GOD""
Note that God is ONE PERSON, not 3...
letusreason1234 3 weeks ago
@letusreason1234 None of those say Jesus is a Trinity. Colossians 1:15 ,The Greek word translated Firstborn is "prōtotokos" and it means foremost, supreme, first in rank. "in all creation" so means he holds the special status of preeminence and headship over everything in heaven and on earth that He created. Col. 1:16 says "For BY him all things were created.
jojoneli76 3 weeks ago
@letusreason1234 Rev 3:14 "beginning of the creation of God" does not mean he was created. It just means he was there when everything was created. 1 John 4:12, no one has seen God in his divine nature, in all his glory in heaven but Jesus was also a man and as a man he was able to be seen. Philippians 2:5-10 explains how Jesus, although he was in the form of God, which means he was God, came to earth and lowered himself as a man therefore in his flesh he was able to be seen.
jojoneli76 3 weeks ago
@letusreason1234 Mark 12:29, here Jesus was quoting from Deuteronomy 6:4. God is ONE. One God with three distinct beings in one with the same power, same glory, same divinity. They share the SAME essence, therefore the same God. Hebrews 9:24, is coming from the view of the man Jesus going back to heaven to be with the Father and again joining him with the glory they shared "before the world began" John 17:5 .
jojoneli76 3 weeks ago
@jojoneli76
Really? I see that YOU wrote that God is three people, but where does the Bible say that? What verse says God is 3 people?
How about this? If 'The Bible' says God is 1 Person then he is 1, and if it says he is 3 people then he is 3, ok?
(Galatians 3:19) "...it was transmitted through angels by the hand of a mediator."
(Galatians 3:20) Now there is no mediator where only ONE PERSON is concerned, but GOD IS ONLY ONE....
Could it be clearer? God is only ONE person...
letusreason1234 3 weeks ago
@letusreason1234: It so sad you can't see the truth in what you yourself has just quoted.
No one is denying God is ONE, God, that's a given. What form does God take? Three distinct parts we call persons/spirits. The Father (the head, has all authority) the Son (the mediator, the judge) and the Holy Spirit, (the comforter, the one who convicts).
"Could it be clearer?" One God three parts!!
BTW what does a spirit look like?
abbyguy 3 weeks ago
@abbyguy
(John 4:24) God is A SPIRIT, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.”
So God is ONE SPIRIT and Not three...
(Galatians 3:20) Now there is no mediator where only ONE PERSON is concerned, but GOD IS ONLY ONE.
And God is ONE PERSON instead of three...
Could that be any clearer???
Sooooo, God is three people/spirits because YOU say so???
Nothing you wrote is in the Bible... You are ADDING to the Bile your own philosophy... Not ONE Scripture says God is 3
letusreason1234 3 weeks ago
beloved, where can i get a copy of the greek nwt? it would take my ministry to the next level
jhweh2007 4 months ago
Barb you know witnesess smoked, had christmas, easter,birthdays but gave them up just like symbolism we gave up touching the unclean thing and became refined by God. Paganism had mixed into truth for centuries and the process of whitening our robes has taken time. Its that simple. Show me one doctrine we follow now that is false.
thejahoflife 8 months ago
Very interesting and informative video! Keep up the good work!!! Jehovah's Witnesses better Awake!!!
drmel46 1 year ago
JC....just because you quote an expert doesn't mean you believe in all his beliefs...surely you recognize this?.....You quote the watchtower...that doesn't mean you don't agree with somethings the watchtower believes....See how that works?...
The bottom line is this JC...Jesus never claimed to be God Almighty and No one in the bible taught the trinity. Perhaps you should concentrate on these two aspects.
JAKEV25 1 year ago
@JAKEV25 : Wow! I can't believe how blind you are.
Let me explain the difference to you as you obviously can't see it.
The difference is this, the WTS is using a dubious source to support it's false doctrine. On the other hand JCdiedforall quotes the WT only to show that it is wrong and not scriptural. She is not using is in any way to support her beliefs, as a matter of fact it is the exact opposite.
abbyguy 1 year ago
@abbyguy NO....It doesn't matter what the authors other beliefs are...he claims to be an expert in trinitarian history......
JAKEV25 1 year ago
@JAKEV25 Answer this: Did anyone in the bible believe that some 1900 years later that a false prophet would represent God on earth? One that used the pyramids to form it's cornerstone? One that would deny the very essence of God Himself? One that would deny His son? One that would make false predictions over and over and over?
Hmmm?
abbyguy 1 year ago
@abbyguy HMMMMMM.......Does anyone believe that someone named Martin Luther would leave the most pagan church and start his own religion some 1500 years after Christ's death? Someone that predicted the return of Christ himself? I am sorry you have fallen hook line and sinker for the trinity dogma...I suggest you do some research.
JAKEV25 1 year ago
@JAKEV25 : Funny how you respond only by avoiding the issue brought before you by flipping it around. You are a master at it. Have you taken some legal training?
Luther changed the direction of the church by eliminating extraneous dogma and showing that we can come before God and do not need a man to represent us here on earth.
He never denied core beliefs though, as you cult does. BIG, BIG, DIFFERENCE!
Nice try though. Maybe you who should read history other than what the WTS provides you..
abbyguy 1 year ago
@abbyguy This women seems to be all tied down by "Orions Belt" and obsessed with Egyptian theology,how can you have an open agreement with a person who strongly believes in triads of gods.
ansermam 4 months ago
@ansermam: 1 Cor 2:14 "The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 16...we have the mind of Christ."
Until you start looking at Christ the right/correct way, you will never understand.
You may want to start by admitting Christ is NOT Michael. Read Hebrews 1, it explains it quite nicely.
Just a thought.
abbyguy 4 months ago
@abbyguy Have you not come to know the sacred secret regarding the seed of the women(Gen 3:15),Michael,'(Heb.,Mi-kha.'el') Lit meaning "Who Is Like God" Da10:13,21; Da 12:1; Rev 12:7; Jude 8.,11,Explains nicely, Also 1Thessalonians 4:16.Rev 19:14-16. Also Explain to me please, what exactly is the Holy Spirit in case you might know.Please reply...
ansermam 3 months ago
@ansermam: I assume you either did not read Hebrews 1 or did not understand it.
RE the Holy Spirit: Jesus and Paul both continually referred to the Holy Spirit as "He," not "It." John 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:7, 8, 13, 14
He intercedes for us Romans 8:26
He speaks to man John 16:13 "...the Spirit of truth, is come, he ... shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak ..."
Acts 8:29 "Then the Spirit said unto...
Acts 10: 19, 20 "... the Spirit said unto him...
abbyguy 3 months ago
@ansermam: He can be grieved (Isaiah 63:10; Ephesians 4:30), esisted (Acts 7:51); insulted (Hebrews 10:29); and lied to (Acts 5:3).
He has a will 1 Corinthians 12:11
He has the capacity to love (Romans 15:30), and we can have fellowship with Him (2 Corinthians 13:14)
He has intelligence and is capable of making decisions. 1 Corinthians 2:10, 11; Isaiah 40:13; Acts 15:28 There's much more proof, but I will not burden you now.
Tell me why you wouldn't believe after this amount of hard evidence?
abbyguy 3 months ago
@abbyguy So a reply , I do understand. Like the all wise King Solomon once said(Proverbs 1:1-7) But I will admit, we are all in perfect, and I know Even like the wise King Solomon and even the chosen ones we are all subject to falling.so in response to that we must Love Yahowah with all are mind are heart and soul, and love our neighbors as we love our self, Thes are the two "Greatest Commandments" all other laws hang on these two laws.
ansermam 3 months ago
@ansermam Hallowed be thy name...
ansermam 3 months ago
@JAKEV25 "just because you quote an expert doesn't mean you believe in all his beliefs"
But, if he doesn't believe Mary was a virgin and that Christianity came from Christ, should he be considered an "expert" by Christians on the truths of Christian theology?
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 You may agree with some things that the WBTS say......do you agree with everything?
JAKEV25 1 year ago
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1~@JAKEV25 "You may agree with some things that the WBTS say......do you agree with everything?"
You actually need to ask JW's this, for they quote the Catholic Encyclopedia and various other non-JW sources as support for their beliefs when such things agree with their theology. So, in your opinion, is it okay to only agree in part, or, should one believe in all or none of a doctrine?
rpierre777 1 year ago
2~@JAKEV25 For example, in the 2006 Awake article "Did Jesus Really Die on a Cross?", they quote Adolphe-Napoleon Didron-a Roman Catholic journalist. Do they agree with everything the Roman Catholic Church say? They also quote J. D. Parsons in this same article. Who is he? Do they agree with everything? But, to answer your question, yes, I agree with some things they say, but not everything. No difference than I agree with some things Buddah taught, but not his religion.
rpierre777 1 year ago
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@JAKEV25 "No one in the bible taught the trinity"
"God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself..." (2 Cor 5:19)
Yes, someone in the bible did...
rpierre777 1 year ago
@JAKEV25 "Jesus never claimed to be God Almighty"
According to some of the Jews, He never claimed to be the Christ, either. "How long do you make us doubt? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly." (Jn 10:24) But, did He?
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 Indeed he did...John 4 for instance......Do you want others?
The Pharisees and Saducees whated to know if Jesus claimed to be the promised Messiah. Anyone that claimed to be YHWH in our time or Jesus' time was NOT accused of blasphemy......people just thought they were crazy.....but claiming to be the Messiah was a different story.
JAKEV25 1 year ago
@JAKEV25 "Anyone that claimed to be YHWH in our time or Jesus' time was NOT accused of blasphemy"
Yes they were.
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." (Jn 10:33)
rpierre777 1 year ago
@JAKEV25 "Indeed he did...John 4 for instance......Do you want others?"
I know He did. I was asking because even though He said who He was, there were those who did not want to believe it. Just like the fact that He IS God. There are those who just do not want to believe it. They can't understand that He is God in the flesh. So, He is both God and Man. Only God can show us how to perfectly be sons of God. Only God can be our perfect example of who/how we need to be.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 Let me try to help you down off that ladder....1) Jesus never claimed to be God he claimed to be the Messiah who was to have a special relationship with the one true God John 17:3
2) NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE in the bible taught that Jesus was YHWH quite the contrary Jesus has the same God as Abraham..Moses....Noah...and all the prophets.... He want YOU to have the same God he has :)
JAKEV25 1 year ago
@JAKEV25 Everything Jesus said and did was to be an example for us to know how to be children of God-physically and mentally. Jesus became the perfect son. (1 Pet 2:21) You keep repeating "no one taught that Jesus was YHWH", so, I'll keep repeating 2 Cor 5:19, and 1 Tim 3:16....Which is more credible, your position, or the scriptures?
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 Let us test your hypothesis....Which scripture do you want to post first?
JAKEV25 1 year ago
she does her home work i mean HER HOME WORK. great job.
jhweh2007 1 year ago
@jhweh2007 Yeah, I like viewing her videos.
rpierre777 1 year ago