his 12 roaches were fighting against my 9 drones and than i produced 6 more roaches and he had 2 drones in que. but after pulling back some of my drones the other drones killed his roaches!!!
That had to be the worst 8pool I've ever seen and it was from a GM...?
The point of 8pool is to bring 2 drones, have them there with your lings just at the right time and building spines from them a good distance away to be defended but still in range of the pool and hatchery. The 6/8 and increasing lings defend it while they they go up, they don't actually engage too much with the drones unless they're positioned to do so.
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hey psy stop running ur mouth about other players. All u did was trash talk destiny you hardly even watched the terran tech up just sat over destiny and criticized him what the hll man
you ever wonder.... how can roaches kill other roaches? they should be immune to their own acid if they are having to hold it inside to shoot.... If not, it was a total evolutionary oversight of not coating their carapace with the same lining in their insides.
@skeldro11 True, but you can assume that the acid in your stomach won't touch your flesh where roaches spit it out and will probably hurt themselves if their not immune
@mofogie by that logic, we should be immune to the hydrochloric acid inside of our stomachs.. yet concentrated hydrochloric acid burns holes through us.. great huh?
@mofogie Maybe they have a fail safe system where they secrete separate substance that are safe to them but deadly acidic when sprayed out and react. The roach is pretty immune to acid when you think about how little damage banelings do to them.
@mofogie well maybe the inside coating easily drys and then cracks, and is weak in other ways, so it needs the environment of the inside of a roach to persist - making it very unfavorable as a skin coating.
(Now I'm taking a long shot but I don't think our skin is resident to our stomach acid either (of cause we don't go around spewing it on each other to establish dominance)).
@mofogie You do realise that makes no sense, first evolution is 50% random, and second humans can hold acid but will die if that same acid goes to the heart, same thing I assume, plus Blizzard have said they do mechanics over lore for esports balance.
@mofogie they shoot a different type of spit for killing each-other, it's goo filled with hurtful thoughts. Eventually, one roach dies from depression
Nice. you two go toe to toe with each other. Loved the details you told andmentioned. really helpful. Some sick ZvZ man. Really close too! Very exciting play. Props! <3
i'm just gold league zerg so i maybe shouldn't be saying you what to do, but in my option, against 6-8pool best way to defend is spines and a queen and just keep making drones. you just need to scout what is coming and try to buy time with your drones to your spines
@KAmaKAsa1 omg learn to read or tell me what part i writed so bad? i have played against 8pool before with win ratio of 80% i would say and i use 14 pool usually but YOU NEED TO SCOUT... in close positions that 14pool is too late but otherways you almost always can buy enought time to get some spines up... srsly dude do you even play zerg? with 13pool you can defend against 6pool with good micro on steppes of war. I said YOU NEED TO BUY TIME WITH DRONES, not that your spines would be ready
@KAmaKAsa1 psy went 14gas 14pool and he was avaible to defend that and get a queen up, so why the fuck you keep telling me that you can't defend with 13 or 14 pool?
@Riox7PepzI you wont have a spine or queen by the time the lings come... in a 8 pool if you go 13 or 14 p even in cross spots metalopolis... mby in different maps such as terminus or taldarim that is doable. you have to defend with drones
@KAmaKAsa1 ... psy did get his queen to help his defend, you don't need to kill the whole attack with drones, just buy time, you are not reading what i even say so can you shut up? i said you need to defend with your drones until you get your spines up. that is like 20-40s usually if you scout it enought early
Psy when you got the lair wouldn't muta tech with some spines at the top of the ramp been a better option as he wouldn't have expected several mutas to come harass his mineral line?
It's nice hearing you all calm and collected during these videos haha its a nice change from the stream :) but thanks for uploading this, very good game. I'd like to see more of these to be honest I think it helps people a lot more!
every unit technically could be a drone. a drone is needed to build any building and every unit cost larve which might as well be a drone. so when zerg build anything, it might as well be a drone.
If you woulda got that drone after he cancelled that spine during the cheese, that game woulda been yours. You had to waste 6 drones to attack his second spine, coulda been used on lings.
@Luke1d20 Yeah he said it a bit later, at the time all enemy roaches were already attacking. But the 'concave advantage' he's really talking about is that time frame, of his opponent's roaches trying to get into position when his is already in position.
awesome game. psy - you are one of the only players/casters which posts TONS of games where you lose. this is very mature of you - and also i learn alot from those games. thanks!
lol this commentary so relaxing especially after watching your stream today.. that was some idra rage there lool but was fun and entertaining all the same
@spazznie yup a lot of people use the account, Nazgul used it during Blizzcon for like 20 games where he had to make motherships everytime he wanted to attack the opponent.
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is this for real pulpfv dot info? free GSL?? this is fcking awesome!
ReserBarringer404 1 month ago
this takes shit long time to stream whats up with that i never have problems with hd videos....
cirkic 8 months ago
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blah6123 9 months ago
@Alexbomb69 Would make sense then, that he cheeses. xD
Silh0u3tt3 9 months ago
You breathed a "Psy" of relief after holding off that rush. Ba dum psh.
stacker210 9 months ago 4
Psy, I don't think those are drones.
Denamic 9 months ago 3
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TitusStarcraft 9 months ago
i rofld when he kept calling roaches drones xD i couldnt stop laughing
MrAkumaa 9 months ago
I might be wrong, but I though kOre was Select playing on the NA server...?
TheAldinBasicShow 9 months ago
@TheAldinBasicShow Select is fucking Terran not Zerg. :)
ChowCentral 9 months ago
@TheAldinBasicShow kOre is PhoeNixWeRRa's NA account!
doddzi123 9 months ago 4
pulling drones in the back!! (...theyre roaches...)
aronAramirez 9 months ago
kOre?? That's PhoenixWeRRa!
ZeBalas91 9 months ago
PSYYY !!!!! Y U NO UPLOAD MOOOAAAR !?
VorteX7BBX 9 months ago
PSYYYYY !! Y U NO UPLOAD !!!!
VorteX7BBX 9 months ago
Roaches for Drones, Drones for Roaches? Anyone noticed?
Btw "Likes" Oh Shit Hatchery :DDDD
lliLiKe2PlaYll 9 months ago
I think k0re is phoenixwerra? Isn't he...
TiRune 9 months ago 2
i have k0re on skype ^^ he is so nice, but has a funny voice hehe he sounds like he is shouting alot :P
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TitusStarcraft 9 months ago
Zerg is made up of Broods which have different strains.
ThanatosDMC 9 months ago
LAWL roaches are called drone's now :)
LeG1tPlay3r 9 months ago
Psy should have researched burrow for the roach heal!
Finality5 9 months ago
his 12 roaches were fighting against my 9 drones and than i produced 6 more roaches and he had 2 drones in que. but after pulling back some of my drones the other drones killed his roaches!!!
maltetheg 9 months ago
Psy I thought you were back from your hibernating period, where are the new vids?
icelawlz 9 months ago
OH-SHIT Hachery
starcking 9 months ago 2
That had to be the worst 8pool I've ever seen and it was from a GM...?
The point of 8pool is to bring 2 drones, have them there with your lings just at the right time and building spines from them a good distance away to be defended but still in range of the pool and hatchery. The 6/8 and increasing lings defend it while they they go up, they don't actually engage too much with the drones unless they're positioned to do so.
Sneaking a spine is just stupid and doesn't work.
hybridx111 9 months ago
The one-eyed mutant-ninja-turtle ice-cream strikes once more.
Gilthans 9 months ago
Where did u kerrigan picture go its way better then this 1 no offense
UndeadDragonKing 9 months ago
GG.. this game really exemplified timing and pros & cons in tech route in a pressure game.
snowblind1985 9 months ago
ROACHES!
ebag111s 9 months ago
why didnt you just make a spinecrawler at the beginning? :L
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shmitz2 9 months ago
hey psy stop running ur mouth about other players. All u did was trash talk destiny you hardly even watched the terran tech up just sat over destiny and criticized him what the hll man
MatthewHayworth 9 months ago
@MatthewHayworth u dont need to listen to him if u hate it, its you who chose to watch psy's vids. keep that in mind(:
93211931 9 months ago
PhoenixWeRRa is a damn good korean player....
staphinfection 9 months ago
funny, ive been 8 pooling recently zvz and have had much success with it on metalop and shattered temple with it even in cross positions.
the3bigreddevils 9 months ago
Your casts after you started to play again, are extremely good!
megatrontevatron 9 months ago
very nice commentary! I like the way you explain some things regarding tactics and units! keep up the good work!
bulle7 9 months ago 2
Reaches with +1 = "drones"
rdg515 9 months ago 32
Really good game!
jyskare 9 months ago
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ferocity111 9 months ago
I just subscribed because of this game. Very nice thank you!
HistoryofOwls 9 months ago
Sick micro by PsY, sick macro by kOre
ajm92cr 9 months ago
i know kore lol hes nice
Moshietv 9 months ago
good game PSY.
wongsiewwai 9 months ago
you ever wonder.... how can roaches kill other roaches? they should be immune to their own acid if they are having to hold it inside to shoot.... If not, it was a total evolutionary oversight of not coating their carapace with the same lining in their insides.
mofogie 9 months ago 65
@mofogie maybe its a chemical reaction when the acid gets spit that it touches air it'll go acidic ? just a theorie :P
Rottetrol54r 9 months ago
@mofogie Totally high arent you?
Jirecs 9 months ago
@mofogie not at all,the acid inside of your stomach can burn your flesh
skeldro11 9 months ago
@skeldro11 True, but you can assume that the acid in your stomach won't touch your flesh where roaches spit it out and will probably hurt themselves if their not immune
MrChakraDragon 9 months ago
@mofogie I think it is because the different broods have different flavors of acid which different chemical properties.
ngilford1 9 months ago
@mofogie I'm immune to holding an axe. I'm not immune to someone swinging at axe at me.
Ketroc21 9 months ago
@Ketroc21
You can't be immune to holding an axe
To be immune is to be exempted
So your saying somehow your protected against holding an axe, something that is not even threatening unless your mentally challenged
Its like saying im immune to condoms, but its not even threatening so whats the immunity?
But if you mean your immune to an axe well that wouldn't make common sense
sukarestu 9 months ago
@mofogie by that logic, we should be immune to the hydrochloric acid inside of our stomachs.. yet concentrated hydrochloric acid burns holes through us.. great huh?
ethoxiquin 9 months ago
@mofogie
I guess Kerrigan screwed up there
Still, although we can't shoot stomach acid
We can contain it, but it is powerful enough to kill us
So.. no wait roaches are capable of surviving nukes but not acid..
I guess Blizzard just doesn't give a damn
sukarestu 9 months ago
@mofogie I'm pretty sure this is proof for Intelligent Design!
bionikspoon 9 months ago
@mofogie if you pierce your stomach you'll die by your own acid.
raxzen 9 months ago
@mofogie one word, ulcers
TheNietzschian 9 months ago
@mofogie I've also been thinking that even since I've seen Roaches and what they can do.
natey10101 9 months ago
@mofogie Maybe they have a fail safe system where they secrete separate substance that are safe to them but deadly acidic when sprayed out and react. The roach is pretty immune to acid when you think about how little damage banelings do to them.
MChenF 9 months ago
@MChenF im almost sure that works that way
Battleschnodder 9 months ago
@mofogie Tell that same thing to snakes.
xXstuffXx 9 months ago
@mofogie well maybe the inside coating easily drys and then cracks, and is weak in other ways, so it needs the environment of the inside of a roach to persist - making it very unfavorable as a skin coating.
(Now I'm taking a long shot but I don't think our skin is resident to our stomach acid either (of cause we don't go around spewing it on each other to establish dominance)).
COWP0WER 9 months ago 5
@mofogie thats like saying humans should be immune to pee. can i pee on you and you wont feel a thing?
lastho 9 months ago
@mofogie
different color zergs use different acids derp
wraithsrock5 9 months ago
@mofogie yup same with banelings
sinekonata 9 months ago
@mofogie
So, according to your statement, humans should survive a blast of hydrochloric acid to the face?
Didn't think so.
sciences8 9 months ago 5
@mofogie Are you immune to stomach acid?
akeheel 8 months ago
@mofogie You do realise that makes no sense, first evolution is 50% random, and second humans can hold acid but will die if that same acid goes to the heart, same thing I assume, plus Blizzard have said they do mechanics over lore for esports balance.
Triona90 8 months ago
@mofogie they shoot a different type of spit for killing each-other, it's goo filled with hurtful thoughts. Eventually, one roach dies from depression
MrJoobledoo 8 months ago
i lmao dude that was a good one
darnell168 8 months ago
@mofogie Haha nice logic there :D Haha didn't even think about that. Blizzard messed up!
FoggyFishburne 8 months ago
different colors make different acids? idk
darnell168 8 months ago
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mattisaac 7 months ago
@mofogie are you immune to your own stomach acid? im not
6a6s6d6f 6 months ago 2
@mofogie They use a different chemical formula, obviously.
CuriousMoth 6 months ago
@mofogie do me a favor stick your hand in hydrochloric acid and then say that again
TheRemorsless 2 weeks ago
Oh, vile gaming ^_^. Nevermind, figured it out. Never heard of them up until now.
beastly289 9 months ago
Why did PsY change his name to vilePsY?
beastly289 9 months ago
nice game ;D
Hosful 9 months ago
Im always cought off guard when psy loses :P
SlayerStarcraft2 9 months ago
thank god those drones had +1 range attack upgrade
Barkilax 9 months ago 2
weak drones
albefort 9 months ago
Nice. you two go toe to toe with each other. Loved the details you told andmentioned. really helpful. Some sick ZvZ man. Really close too! Very exciting play. Props! <3
bladecrusher01 9 months ago
Me watching this: "Expand! Expand! Why aren't you expanding?!?!"
Absydion 9 months ago
microing the "drones" instead of roaches :D
idabadjiev 9 months ago
@FadeAway3s Are you serious?? TvT is probably the MOST boring match-up. I think most people can agree on that.
ClemonTig3r 9 months ago
@ClemonTig3r it depends who is playing, if TLO is playing, it's never boring :P
rambler1234567 9 months ago
drones everywhere...
Sniff4eg 9 months ago
Way to hold your own against a Grandmaster, Psy. That was an amazing learning experience for me... oh yeah
chrisrcoop 9 months ago
EPic intro.
Zerex555sucks 9 months ago
Judging from Psy's last stream you know he wasn't this calm casting as he was when playing the game lol
andydzee 9 months ago
I want your penis inside me!
Ryners 9 months ago 2
A psy of relief?
Wowaddict1701 9 months ago 2
Psy of relief. trololol
Nathan8D 9 months ago
i'm just gold league zerg so i maybe shouldn't be saying you what to do, but in my option, against 6-8pool best way to defend is spines and a queen and just keep making drones. you just need to scout what is coming and try to buy time with your drones to your spines
Riox7PepzI 9 months ago
@Riox7PepzI in higher leagues people dont always go 10p... they go either 14,13 or 15,16 ... so you wont have time to make spines or a queen
KAmaKAsa1 9 months ago
@KAmaKAsa1 omg learn to read or tell me what part i writed so bad? i have played against 8pool before with win ratio of 80% i would say and i use 14 pool usually but YOU NEED TO SCOUT... in close positions that 14pool is too late but otherways you almost always can buy enought time to get some spines up... srsly dude do you even play zerg? with 13pool you can defend against 6pool with good micro on steppes of war. I said YOU NEED TO BUY TIME WITH DRONES, not that your spines would be ready
Riox7PepzI 9 months ago
@KAmaKAsa1 psy went 14gas 14pool and he was avaible to defend that and get a queen up, so why the fuck you keep telling me that you can't defend with 13 or 14 pool?
Riox7PepzI 9 months ago
@Riox7PepzI you wont have a spine or queen by the time the lings come... in a 8 pool if you go 13 or 14 p even in cross spots metalopolis... mby in different maps such as terminus or taldarim that is doable. you have to defend with drones
KAmaKAsa1 9 months ago
@KAmaKAsa1 ... psy did get his queen to help his defend, you don't need to kill the whole attack with drones, just buy time, you are not reading what i even say so can you shut up? i said you need to defend with your drones until you get your spines up. that is like 20-40s usually if you scout it enought early
Riox7PepzI 9 months ago
you can totally tell if Psy gonna win or loose by the way he speaks ^_^
Weazelon 9 months ago
zerg wins
OpticFalcon 9 months ago
13 gas 14 pool 13 pool 14 gas 13 14 gas 13 pool Oh god my head hurts now.
NAMLegolas 9 months ago
Very fascinating game. Thanks for the tips on drone micro against lings at the start while defending the 8 pool. That is very useful information.
cherub96 9 months ago
Psy when you got the lair wouldn't muta tech with some spines at the top of the ramp been a better option as he wouldn't have expected several mutas to come harass his mineral line?
compaq98sc 9 months ago
It's nice hearing you all calm and collected during these videos haha its a nice change from the stream :) but thanks for uploading this, very good game. I'd like to see more of these to be honest I think it helps people a lot more!
cilayin 9 months ago
I like how you are humble enough to cast a game you lost because I learned a lot from this and your commentary was helpful!
MikeSpuches 9 months ago
3:40 a psy of relief :D
akatsuki000akatsuki 9 months ago 2
I hate ZvZ. It's either ling wars or baneling wars or roach wars. The end.
bbarrus82 9 months ago
@bbarrus82
I hate PVP and TVT, they're either 4 gates, 4 gates, 4 gates, or Tanks, Tanks, Tanks. THE END!
roe0813 9 months ago
@roe0813 well you obviously seem to know both those matchups insideout
KAmaKAsa1 9 months ago
@roe0813 whoah whoah whoah TvT at the highest level is the second most entertaining match-up to watch after TvZ imo
FadeAway3s 9 months ago
@bbarrus82 or muta wars
TheKarolans 9 months ago
every unit technically could be a drone. a drone is needed to build any building and every unit cost larve which might as well be a drone. so when zerg build anything, it might as well be a drone.
Majorohminus 9 months ago
Ha! A Psy of relief
wrthdrumer 9 months ago 22
@wrthdrumer greatest ever
TheNietzschian 9 months ago
@wrthdrumer Everyone says that...
natey10101 9 months ago
why not switch to mutas when he has the roach lead?
tamubasketball 9 months ago
@tamubasketball cause u would have too much of a lack of ground...and he just a attacks for an easy win.
UnDieAble 9 months ago
slight advantage... opponent has 56 food to his 40 in a mirror matchup. >.<
redsoxfan591 9 months ago
kore= phoenixwerra if you didnt know
agita3535 9 months ago
These are not the drones you're looking for.
Wait
Godlynessinate 9 months ago
Kore is the Korean Zerg Phoenix from the old Werra clan! thumbs up for Psy to see
uhahSpronx 9 months ago 8
This match wasnt really fun to watch it was just a roach war for the whole thing really
DarenHD 9 months ago
@DarenHD Welcome to ZvZ. It sucks.
bbarrus82 9 months ago
lol aparently every zerg unit is a drone.
DLuznyyy 9 months ago 3
i hope you meant "a Psy of relief", epic
TheBreeZe 9 months ago
Sorry Psy i had to flag your video for graphical sexual activity because its a game of you playing sc2...
lukelostit 9 months ago 3
you so deserved to win this :s
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SalsaSalling 9 months ago
What an intense game and what a bosslike defence
Ursenfuns 9 months ago
hes korean.... its okay to lose against them...
Bobby69Brown 9 months ago
i like the OhShitHatchery :D
XWurstbrotX 9 months ago 4
thanks, love your vids. Great commentator and player
llamapunch 9 months ago
damn this game was epic. so much action even from the start.
nt and gg
rub504 9 months ago
If you woulda got that drone after he cancelled that spine during the cheese, that game woulda been yours. You had to waste 6 drones to attack his second spine, coulda been used on lings.
mjkelly93 9 months ago
@Luke1d20 Yeah he said it a bit later, at the time all enemy roaches were already attacking. But the 'concave advantage' he's really talking about is that time frame, of his opponent's roaches trying to get into position when his is already in position.
plaguuu 9 months ago
psy, when you repelled that roach ling push at 9 minutes i swear i jizzed so hard i had to change my pants.
alaskan371 9 months ago
Inject bitch! :D
dare4moree 9 months ago
lol a 'Psy' of relief
HBon111 9 months ago
@HBon111 lawlz
CGJackson89 9 months ago
@Luke1d20 looks like 2 waves of attack even, actually.
plaguuu 9 months ago
@Luke1d20 Psy gets first attack and he probably gained 1+ wave of fire from the positioning.
plaguuu 9 months ago
-G- -G- ! ! ! !
Tobikaj 9 months ago
lol i have that gg button too
plaguuu 9 months ago
You mean "droaches"
TheRealYngin 9 months ago
expantion psy
linenlines 9 months ago
awesome game. psy - you are one of the only players/casters which posts TONS of games where you lose. this is very mature of you - and also i learn alot from those games. thanks!
gsfmediaproductions 9 months ago
lol this commentary so relaxing especially after watching your stream today.. that was some idra rage there lool but was fun and entertaining all the same
TeQuiiLaSHoTZz 9 months ago
some beast micro there holy shiiiiiiit
pmuchbro 9 months ago
If Psy says the roaches are drones, then they ARE goddamn drones!
DevonHartigan 9 months ago 225
thumbs up the comment below mine so psy knows hes playing koreans!
UkammakU 9 months ago
"That Zerg player, kOre, is actually a North American account being played by the Korean PhoeNixWeRRa." - found that online
spazznie 9 months ago 85
@spazznie WeRa clan is disbanded because of sexual misconduct involving captain in 2010 October i think =/
kiopas4 9 months ago
@spazznie well no wonder he went with a cheesy build
warthogman133244 9 months ago
@spazznie yup a lot of people use the account, Nazgul used it during Blizzcon for like 20 games where he had to make motherships everytime he wanted to attack the opponent.
heheitsjohnE 9 months ago
@spazznie no way dude!
pablo0otje 9 months ago
just take out the D in Drones. Rones np
yangsta88 9 months ago
use more spines dammit psy!
rationsauce 9 months ago
can you please start winning again?
seeing you lose sucks
asphyxiafeeling 9 months ago
Kudos for posting a game you lost and make a lesson out of it for all of us!
xib 9 months ago
the only mirror matchup that has potential is terran, protoss is just ridiculous, and zerg rarely get passed hatchery tech..
oggedask 9 months ago
@oggedask qq faggot dick
forzaazzurri101 9 months ago
did u know when ur queen comes out u put them on hold position and the zergling ai glictches them as they try to atk the queen not the drone
altf4nubs 9 months ago
really cool game dude
CielBlanche 9 months ago
call it Droches
Brixinator2000 9 months ago 5
one day i hope to see a zvz that isn't a billion roaches vs a billion roaches. a man can dream...
purrot 9 months ago
good work casting a game you lost. keeps it a lot more interesting when you lose every now and then :)
anvo89 9 months ago
Week drones back !!!!!!!
7tebo 9 months ago
Literally all you needed to do was make a hatchery and get burrow.
DomoExe 9 months ago
I love that Psy casts ZvZ.
BlackHoleBoeke 9 months ago
wow story of my life.. except i loose when i get 8 pooled
mingdontsing 9 months ago
@mingdontsing That's weird, I tight when I get 8 pooled
SamVanDam 9 months ago