"I'll be keeping out of range. I'm not going to run. When he's not throwing punches, I'll be on the attack.".....Tyrell Biggs. Pre-Fight comments...........
"I was hitting him with punches to the body, and he was making noises. It was somewhat like a woman screaming.".....Post fight comment, Mike Tyson.
As for lennox if he brags over beating a declined in skill tyson and he trained so hard and was worried and called dat d biggest fight of his entire boxing career sayin such tins as i want to clear d division only to tak him down in 8 rounds after being rattled in earlier rounds. what wld a prime tyson do, pls som1 who knows shld pls help us.taking in mind wot 2 fighters did to him.....
I have carfully scrutinized the holyfield Tyson fight and apart from the fact that holyfild was headbutting i fel tyson also bit him out of frustration knowing fully well that on a normal day with is cus training he would destroy him. Out of moral decline loss of most of his skill power and skills which were uncontested earlier he did dat out of anger. Sort f like a fuck u...i know my skills are depleted but i have wot it takes to destroy which isnt harnessed.
@ DocWyoming. was that the catskill tyson.? Tyson was never in tip top performance or shape both mentally and physically when he left the Cus team. A cap was placed on his skills when he left Rooney alone, he no longer developed as a skilled fighter from then onwards. Training became shorter and uneffective as upposed to his previous earlier schedule when he was a pup so to speak. He surrounded himself with semi pros who changd his style...which was dangerous also with , tivs, pimps, etc.
@ lglimited. All dose who say lenox beats tyson were either born in d early 90's or saw d douglas video first or perhaps were kept frm watching tv wen he was prime.tyson wld shatter lennox jaw and steward wld hav to beg lennox mum to allow him stay. He was just too elusive and devasting which are outsized advantages..when i say prime i mean d catskill years when he had his skills.peekaboo. Even manny sed tyson was no longer d same guy trickily tellin lennox its not sure for him if he was d same
see people bash on tyson because they see a guy who wouldn't box, but would go in and take people's heads off. He only started doing this when he turned pro and the cash prizes, women and fame were too large to risk an entire 12 rounds. If you watch his amateur fights, he had tremendous bobbing and weaving and his footwork and movement was just, un real. I mean this guy was not only a killer in the ring, but he was next to impossible to hit. So don't bash on him, because that's dumb..
Looking at both fighters on Youtube, Tyson was the quicker and the more powerful fighter. Ali, however, would've had enough ring savvy to confuse Tyson and make the fight very competitive.
It would've been a heck of a fight and it could've gone either way. I don't see a huge edge for either fighter.
Dempsey & Marciano?... that is just nostalgia talking. Tyson would demolish either of them. A prime Holmes, certainly, he'd give anyone trouble. So would a prime Foreman. And although Mike was a shadow of his former self against Lewis, I think Lennox would have given him problems even in his prime.
When it comes down to it though, I'd pick Mike Tyson in his prime (age 20-21) over any fighter.
Ali v Tyson would have been a great fight, certainly. If you want to assess Ali properly you need to watch his fights up to 1967. (What would he have been like in those missing 3 years?) Biggs - a good amateur and middling to mediocre pro - gave a pale indication of how Ali might have managed Tyson in the early stages. (unfortunately, Biggs lost his plan after 2 mins of rd.1 !)
@DanielSong39 Oh sure, you're absolutely right. Biggs really had no answer to Tyson's power and speed. The question - to which no-one knows the answer - is whether Muhammed Ali in his early twenties would have been able to outdance and outjab a young Mike Tyson.
Tyson, one of the best of all time better than Ali better than frazier, better than Lennox I dont know if I can place him ahead of a prime Holmes, Dempsey or Marciano however
@tokunboism Fuck off lmao Lennox was always at his fucking prime, one of the onyl fighters to ever stay at his prime and Prime Lewis Would Fucking KILL Tyson, and 'Prime' Tyson
@tokunboism Hi, do you think Tyson in 86-89 would have cut lewis down with body assaults and then moved in for the kill...i think Tyson would have stopped Lewis in rounds 6-9.....
I believe that Tyson's stamina problems are perfectly understandable. he used to throw every punch with bad intentions. every singel one of his powerful punches was suppose to ko his oppenent and that is what was taking his energy during the course of a fight. throwing hard punches for 6 or 7 rounds would anybody give stamina problems. but still he is one of the greatest
He was an early started and put most of the energy in early to wear out his opponents...very similar to Jack Dempsey...which helped him later in the fight because the opponents also slowed down..but at that point, they were broken down mentally and physically...which then could allow Tyson to "box"
People tend to forget that this was a different era Tyson was in. He was no longer a "normal" size HW. He was now regarded as a "Small" HW because it was a Super-HW era.
i feel like you still got it wrong, first it sounds like ur imitating teddy atlas who said that almost identically, but tyson in his prime still threw hard shot but then he threw quick percise combinations and wore down the body, then took to head hunting. It was when tyson moved to looking for the 1 hit KOs that hurt him in the ring the most coz thats when u start trading punches and any talented pro boxer can do that.
fadethetrade, watch tyson's holding and you'll notice he doesn't hold the other boxer to stop them punching him, but so they don't go anywhere while he punches them.
watch at 1:33 to 1:36,tyson missed the left and HE was the one that actually clinched.This was why Douglas and holyfield figured him out.They opened up on tyson every time as tyson forced the clinch after missing.
Tyson made a comment that when he hit Biggs to the body he made a noise like a girl,,,,,later in prison he apologised for that remark as silly and a bit sick
listen to the ref say "let him go tyrell" for those of you who said tyson grabs and holds, ya he does.. Who doesnt lol.. Not one of tysons best fights, but everyone cant fight amzing everytime, you wouldnt be human if you did
i didn't notice before through the years of watching tyson's fights that he grabbed and held and wrested with his opponents for most of the rounds in his fights. he didn't throw many punches.
I know what happened to tyson.He was a 5-7 round fighter.With all the disputes with tyson lovers and haters and experts saying he folded when confronted.I dont believe that.i think it was his lack of a second half of the fight ability that caused his demise because had tyson been strong in the late rounds as frazier was,tyson should have finished douglas in the 8th and shoul;d have put holy away after the bolo combo in the 5th but instead he lost the 6th against holy and the fight turned around
Just a few but you're missing my point.Don't get me wrong,I was a tyson fanatic but strictly speaking,he was only a brute skilled fighter up to the 7th round.His stamina was his demise after the 7th because he never fought anyone who was a skilled pro and KO them after the 7th .NOT ONE FIGHTER.
watch at 1:33 to 1:36,tyson missed the left and HE was the one that actually clinched.This was why Douglas and holyfield figured him out.They opened up on tyson every time as tyson forced the clinch after missing.
tyson had stamina he was a better athlete than joe and had more skills than joe All joe really had was a left hook which was tremendous but besides that he didnt have a whole lot of ways of hurting you
That's true, Joe was a converted southpaw that lacked a right hand. This guy fadethetrade thinks that a puncher should ko everyone he fights, if he doesn't then it's stamina! lol I guess by his logic Duran, Chavez, Ray Robinson, Hagler, Hearns, Dempsey, Liston, all had stamina problems because a lot of their victories went the distance. And these guys were the hardest punchers in their weight classes.
Yes , I believe this is part of the unfair backlash against Tyson . Tyson drew criticism for his fights against guys like Tillis and Bonecrusher Smith because everybody thought he should be KOing everybody as if he were a machine and not a man. What they failed to notice is a fighter adapting to his opponents and finding others to win besides by KO. Other fighters get credit for that, but never Tyson.
It was his stamina that was the issue because he lost his numbing power after the 5th6th or 7th rounds.Something happened to tysons punching power after the 6th round.He was one ko after 7th round and that one was questionable.If he had a few ko's against decent fighters after 7th,then it would validate the opinions but he had this problem and rooney knew it all along.
This guy fadethe trade knows what the facts are and rooney understood also:It was his stamina that was the issue because he lost his numbing power after the 5th6th or 7th rounds.Something happened to tysons punching power after the 6th round.He was one ko after 7th round and that one was questionable.If he had a few ko's against decent fighters after 7th,then it would validate the opinions but he had this problem and rooney knew it all along.
You dont have to ko everyone,true,however,when you're a champ compared to ali and 42-0 with 36 ko's before your 24th birthday and you have a fighter on the canvas in the 8th after taking a beating,you find the ability to finish that guy in the 9th. He couldn't because he lsot his stamina and punching power in tokyo.same with Tucker,he should have ko'd tucker in the 10th when he hurt him and rooney yelled out:"FINISH HIM MIKE YOU HURT HIM!"
Everybody loses stamina in afight thats why most kos happen b4 the 7th rather than after the 7th. Tyson didnt catch douglas fully with that punch and Tyson was getting beat up so how exactly was he supposed to fifnish off a fighter that is not nearl as hurt as he was?
Because thats the sign of a great champion.Smokin joe frazier would come back and ko doglas any day of any motivated douglas and tyson should have done the same but it was his lack of stamina that weakened his punching power.His lack of finishing off ruddock,a guy who he should have ko'd the second fight because he lacked the stamina to do it.
not only ko late but how about liike frazzier did to ali in 1971,just come on strong knock himdown in the 14th and pummel him and win a decision.Tyson really never did that with any of his decision wins.ruddock was coming back too much late in that second fight.
Well when you don't train properly; don't do road-work; crash diet to get your weight down; yeah...your stamina will suck.
He should have "KO'd" Tucker? Really? A Peak, undefeated version of Tucker...who was 6'5, 220+...long reach and agile with a good long jab...who was also on the defensive?
Who KO'd Tucker at that point?
No one. Why? Because he was undefeated.
Even after years of partying, drugs, and being out of his prime...5 years later Lewis couldn't even do it.
That's the problem with some people with Tyson. If he doesn't knock them out...he is overrated and it is a bad win...even if he wins by UD.
Why? Because people just looked at his Power based on the hype around it and didn't pay attention to his actual "boxing skills" at that point...which were key in getting those KO's in the first place...let alone the UD wins he had.
To all the tyson fans,mike had stamina problems and this is the reason he couldn't become a top 3 of all time.The lack of stamina was the reasons he lost to douglas and holyfield,plain and simple.Not because he was a bully,not because he couldnt come back from defeat,not because he folded when confronted by another pro,it was because he lacked the STAMINA required to COME BACK after the 7th and get strong like he was in the first 3 rounds.
you had a common misconception about tyson. you must have played mike tyson 's punchout and think thats how tyson fought. Tyson had plenty of stamina to go the distance . after 3 rounds all fighters are tired
Look at how feeble he was in the second ruddock fight,he appeared to have lost all his power against razor ruddock,who frankly was not the best fighter around but tyson was brought into the later rounds and beat him to almost death but couldnt even knock him down anymore after the 7th!!
the fact that tyson didnt have a bunch of ko after 7 rounds mean absolutely nothing because only a handful of tyson fights have gone past 7 and he does have a tko over jose ribalta in the 10th round
That fight was actually a questionable ko.Jose could have continued clearly until the bell rang in the 12th.Anyway,rabalta???you're kidding,right?
He should have ko'd bonecrusher,tucker and mitch green.Those guys were knockoutable by the great classic top 3 of all time tyson.right? How about Ruddock in the second fight? why didn't tyson finish off douglas after knocking him down in the last seconds of the 8th round for almost 10 seconds.The next round he almost got ko'd by douglas.
he had ribalta hurt and ribalta wasnt fighting back therefore it was a justifiable tko . bonecrusher refused to fight tyson , he just kept grabbing him so tyson couldnt punch him, tucker was a really good fighter so its not as if you could just knock him out lennox lewis couldnt ko him either and he fought him when he wasnt in his prime anymore 5 years after tyson. Sometimes no matter how much you hit a guy you just cant ko them some guys have really good chins
what happenned to douglas,ruddock the second time and holyfield.The distance he went with tillis,green the bum,bonehugger and tucker were because of his lack of the stamina needed to ko them.That same stamina required to ko those guys which were all subpar fighters by the way,would be the factor needed to beat douglas,holy and lewis.Those guys simply had the style and were good enough to exploit the stamina deficiancy of tyson.
Because a puncher isn't going to ko everyone he fights. George Foreman in his prime didn't ko everyone he fought, same with Liston, Dempsey, Shavers, Norton or anyone. Even at the smaller weights Duran, Hagler, Ray Robinson, Chavez didn't ko everyone they fought and had the victory, Is it because of stamina according to your logic? It's not because of Tyson's stamina it''s because the other guy just refuses to go down for various reasons in that fight. It could be heart, desire, pride, etc.
He lost his punching power after the 7th,this was because of his stamina.The peekaboo style takes alot out of tyson because he was flawless in his defense as well as his offense before the 7th round,then after,he seemed incapable of showing the same numbing power.These ared the facts,live with it,you'll sleep better at night.Quote by foreman:"tyson becomes an ordinary fighter after the 5th round."
@fadethetrade wrong, it was that he wasnt matured enough to reign as a champ for a long time like he could have, tyson had plenty stamina in his fights that lasted more than 6 rounds in the 80s. And ribalta was in great fucking shape when tyson fought him and still tyson never faltered much at all.
@Indul1, look im a tyson fan, but if u understood boxing ud know that in boxing if ur a swarmer, that means u fight in continous spurts of alot of energy, yes tyson lasted the distance but only against a couple guys, id have to see him fight greats to prove he really had amazing stamina like ali. but yes tyson does have avg stamina
He lost his power as the fight progressed.why dont you just understand that fact.This was why he struggled to ko guys he should have ko'd and why he lost to douglas and holyfield and went 12 and looked lathargic with ruddock who was easily destroyed by a lewis.
If tyson was able to ko douglas in the 9th whioch he should have,beaten holyfield in the 5th when he boloed him to the ropes,the next rounds those guys completely took over from tyson and it was that lack of stamina that tyson would have needed to ko bonecrusher,tillis,green and tucker.
tyson was getting beat up versus douglas. he was able to catch douglas with an uppercut partly because douglas was sleeping on him because he thought he had the fight won already. Tyson was getting hammered and he didnt completely catch douglas fully with that ounch thats why he couldnt finish douglas. tyson was a shell of himself vs holyfield and bonecrusher held tyson arms all night so he couldnt get off any punches. Green had a good chin
I didnt explain it right.The same lack of finishing douglas and holyfield was thre same lack he had that stopped him from finishing tucker,tillis,bonecrusher,green and ruddock 2.His STAMINA was not at the same level as the rest of his skill.Thats my final point.good night.
bonecrusher should have been beaten to a pulp by just holding on AND he actually had tyson on queer street with 15 seconds left in the fight.Tyson was tired and falling asleep.could you imagine what holyfield the wrrior would have done in that situation?????
you cant punch someone if they grab you thats why holding is not allowed. Bonecrusher never had tyson hurt he hit him because tyson was sleeping on him because he didnt try to fight the night . He tried to catch tyson with something in hopes tyson had a bad chin but chin is too strong to get hurt with one punch
@blaq7427 thank you for getting it right, fadethetrade is so negatively biased about Tyson capability because he keeps trying to avoid the fact that Tyson was unstoppable when he was fully focused and not negatively influenced by everybody close to him
you watched at some talk show where there were ali, tyson and sugar ray, Biggs did elbow too and tyson actually said "oh you do elbow too?! you gonna die you do elbow you gonna die!" so that;s why tyson used elbow...whatever man it's a fight!
actually jondvw if u know anything about boxing you'd know that lewis has to be ranked at a certain point to fight the champion solewis deciding to turn pro when tyson was at his peak was no risk to him at all
in real life aLi and Tyson are gud riends Tyson ooked up to ALi, ALi went to Tyson's school as a kid and he spoke to teh kids , it was a detention center, he as visting the youth. They are gud Muslims brothers ever since Tyson started boxing again.
Its cool how they are both linked, two unique fighters of two generations.
Tyrell Biggs sealed his own fate during the amateurs. After Tyson lost to Henry Tillman and was extremely upset about it, Tyrell shot off his Biggs mouth, insulted Tyson, and laughed about it.
Tyson never forgot the slight.
For those kiddies who aren't old enough to remember, Tyson vowed to punish Biggs for the distance and take him out in the 12th. Tyson could have knocked this fool out any time after the third, but chose to punish him, which is obvious in the clips. Biggs QUIT in the 7th
Biggs took the gutless, coward's way out. Tyson got his revenge. Tyson always made a habit of consoling his victims after the fight was over, but did NOT do so with Biggs, nor was Biggs worthy. He got his Biggs mouth SHUT by his master Tyson.
Tyson also met up with Tillman in the pros. Since Tillman had not been a jerk, Tyson humanely took out Tillman in one.
lol in the postfight interview the guy asked tyson what happend when you were punching the body? and then tyson said "he was making noises" the guy then asked "what kind of noises?" and then he was making woman noises like ooooh-ooooh-oooooooh-ooooh-ooh.
tyson hated biggs. tyson detested biggs amatuer style. when the two would see each other at amatuer fights, tyson would intentionally bump into biggs and one time spit on him. tyson hated biggs. biggs was a pretty boy and not a mean fighter. he should have stuck to basketball.
during their amatuer days, biggs was getting all the press. he was a pretty, well-spoken boxer and tyson was the opposite. tyson was often heard saying biggs was not a real boxer and didn't like to mix it up. tyson also felt he should have gone to the olympics instead of biggs.
who remembers BABY JESSICA??, well she's the little baby who was trapped in a well years ago, it was actually the same night of the TYSON vs BIGGS fight. i remember because those were the 2 top news stories of that night. look it up so u can see for yourself.
Biggs took the gutless, coward's way out. Tyson got his revenge. Tyson always made a habit of consoling his victims after the fight was over, but did NOT do so with Biggs, nor was Biggs worthy. He got his Biggs mouth SHUT by his master Tyson.
Tyson also met up with Tillman in the pros. Since Tillman had not been a jerk, Tyson humanely took out Tillman in one.
Biggs didnt take the cowards way out. He could have quit a any time, but didnt. He even got up after first round to take more punishment. If the "cowards way out" is to take massive punishment round after round, then ok..lol
Tyrell Biggs sealed his own fate during the amateurs. After Tyson lost to Henry Tillman and was extremely upset about it, Tyrell shot off his Biggs mouth, insulted Tyson, and laughed about it.
Tyson never forgot the slight.
For those kiddies who aren't old enough to remember, Tyson vowed to punish Biggs for the distance and take him out in the 12th. Tyson could have knocked this fool out any time after the third, but chose to punish him, which is obvious in the clips. Biggs QUIT in the 7th
The best part about this video is if you look on the left hand side of the screen after the first knockdown (about the 6:00 mark) you can see Oprah covering her face in horror. I remember watching the fight live. You won't see her at any fights these days.
tyson is not in the top 5.....he would have been easily but for various circumstances....jail, don king...etc etc...cannot be considered top 5.....but i agree with statements that he would hav beaten most comers in 86-88
Tyrell Biggs was 15-0 against bums, and he got a shot at the undisputed heavyweight title. That to me is proof of the weakness of the heavyweight division in the late eighties. There just weren't any big (240 pounds) guys around who could box and punch, like Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis. If David Tua had been around in those days in stead of Tyson, he would be considered a legend today, now he's just another contender.
Ok,well I guess the 70s era of the heavyweight was weak also? Eh? Ya know since the 6-0 Spinks got a shot of the Undisputed Title against Ali also.I GOT YA THERE,CANT DISAGREE WITH THAT.haha. A gold medal goes a long way. Or even the 19-0 Ali fighting Sonny Liston. Now quit the hate on Tyson.;)
Leon Spinks was a bumb (he lost 17 of his 46 fights). The fact that Ali lost to him is proof that he should have quit after the Rumble. But Ali did fight and beat guys like Foreman, Frazier and Norton, who are all time greats. Tyson beat one all time great heavyweight, namely Larry Holmes, but Holmes was 38 at the time, and hadn't fought in 2 years.
Tyson defeated two all time greats:Holmes and an undefeated Michael Spinks. Mike could beat anybody in 88 because he was on a mission to be the best. under kevin rooney Iron Mike was a boxing machine...Holmes was so confident that he was gonna KO Tyson...no excuse for losing...in my book Tyson is in the top 5 heavyweights. Ali is number one just because he had a great career but i honestly think a prime Tyson would beat any boxer in history
Michael Spinks is an all-time great LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT. As a heavyweight he lost twice to Holmes (even though the judges gave it to Spinks), he beat a nobody in Steffen Tangsted and an almost retired Gerry Cooney. I agree that Tyson in his prime ('86-'89) was a great fighter, but three good years don't justify a place in the all-time top five.
did you know kewwis is older then tyson, he stayed out of the pro leage because in the 80's lewwis sparred tyson and was knocked out of the ring..he waited had he fought tyson in this area he gets ko'd.
First of all, Lewis stayed in the amateur ranks because he wanted an olympic gold medal. Besides, how in the hell was Lewis supposed to know when Tyson would be in his prime and when he would be over the hill. Lewis turned pro immediately after the '88 Olympics, right at the peak of Tyson's career (the annihilation of an overrated Michael Spinks). That's proof that he wasn't afraid of Tyson.
did u know biggs gave lewwis a beating in the olympics! also lewwis sparred with tyson in new york, ask anybody lewwis was knocked out of the ring... so if lewwis had trouble with biggs in the 80's what makes u think he could beat a prime tyson!
What kind of reasoning is this. Yes, Lewis lost to Biggs in the quarter final of the '84 Olympics, but Tyson didn't even get to those Olympics because he lost to Henry Tillman twice! Does that make Tillman a better fighter than Tyson? You have to understand that you can't compare amateur and professional boxing. Besides, in '84, Lennox was only 18 years old, compared to a 23 year old Biggs.
prime tyson prime tyson!tyson didnt take challange on 100 million even of old foreman!and old foreman fight all 15 rounds with holyfield extremly well! tyson was knocked off by holyfield!!old foreman didnt take even a rest between the rounds and to you want to say that tyson could do the same in 45!in young days georg had killed tyson in first round!in old daye he need some4-5 rounds!forgot mike!he is good only with lean boxers who are afraiding him and so are losers before fight has began!
You cant compare what happened in one fight with the other. Example-Buster Douglas was stopped by Tony Tucker in the 11th round, Tyson beat Tucker by decision, then Douglas knocked out Tyson and the rest is history.
That's not a very good analogy because even if Biggs did beat Lewis then, Biggs was older, had more experience back then and Lewis wasn't a fully developed fighter. I believe a prime Tyson would have beaten Lewis, but that's not the best way to present your argument.
Secondly, it's true that they sparred together in Catskill when they were both amateurs and still in their teens, and it's also true that Tyson overwhelmed Lewis in the first round (simply because Lewis wasn't used to Tyson's bull-like style), but after the first round, Lewis was able to control Tyson.
I watched this fight live. I wish stavros had shown the interview Tyson had with Larry Merchant afterward. Tyson said that Biggs was "squealing in there" when Tyson would hit him with a good shot. I remember the pleasure that Tyson seemed to have when he said it. I also remember Tyson imitating Biggs squealing, but that's probably not accurate.
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"I'll be keeping out of range. I'm not going to run. When he's not throwing punches, I'll be on the attack.".....Tyrell Biggs. Pre-Fight comments...........
"I was hitting him with punches to the body, and he was making noises. It was somewhat like a woman screaming.".....Post fight comment, Mike Tyson.
chrissline77 3 months ago
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chrissline77 3 months ago
As for lennox if he brags over beating a declined in skill tyson and he trained so hard and was worried and called dat d biggest fight of his entire boxing career sayin such tins as i want to clear d division only to tak him down in 8 rounds after being rattled in earlier rounds. what wld a prime tyson do, pls som1 who knows shld pls help us.taking in mind wot 2 fighters did to him.....
tokunboism 3 months ago
I have carfully scrutinized the holyfield Tyson fight and apart from the fact that holyfild was headbutting i fel tyson also bit him out of frustration knowing fully well that on a normal day with is cus training he would destroy him. Out of moral decline loss of most of his skill power and skills which were uncontested earlier he did dat out of anger. Sort f like a fuck u...i know my skills are depleted but i have wot it takes to destroy which isnt harnessed.
tokunboism 3 months ago
@ DocWyoming. was that the catskill tyson.? Tyson was never in tip top performance or shape both mentally and physically when he left the Cus team. A cap was placed on his skills when he left Rooney alone, he no longer developed as a skilled fighter from then onwards. Training became shorter and uneffective as upposed to his previous earlier schedule when he was a pup so to speak. He surrounded himself with semi pros who changd his style...which was dangerous also with , tivs, pimps, etc.
tokunboism 3 months ago
@ lglimited. All dose who say lenox beats tyson were either born in d early 90's or saw d douglas video first or perhaps were kept frm watching tv wen he was prime.tyson wld shatter lennox jaw and steward wld hav to beg lennox mum to allow him stay. He was just too elusive and devasting which are outsized advantages..when i say prime i mean d catskill years when he had his skills.peekaboo. Even manny sed tyson was no longer d same guy trickily tellin lennox its not sure for him if he was d same
tokunboism 3 months ago
@tokunboism Tyson ran from Lewis in 96.
DocWyoming 3 months ago
..this guy is clearly one of the best in the past 25 years, EASILY. He was pure talent, nuff said.
06livefast 6 months ago
see people bash on tyson because they see a guy who wouldn't box, but would go in and take people's heads off. He only started doing this when he turned pro and the cash prizes, women and fame were too large to risk an entire 12 rounds. If you watch his amateur fights, he had tremendous bobbing and weaving and his footwork and movement was just, un real. I mean this guy was not only a killer in the ring, but he was next to impossible to hit. So don't bash on him, because that's dumb..
06livefast 6 months ago
Looking at both fighters on Youtube, Tyson was the quicker and the more powerful fighter. Ali, however, would've had enough ring savvy to confuse Tyson and make the fight very competitive.
It would've been a heck of a fight and it could've gone either way. I don't see a huge edge for either fighter.
DanielSong39 6 months ago
According to one simulation, a prime Tyson would beat a prime Lewis 68 times out of 100, with 50 of those wins by KO/TKO.
DanielSong39 6 months ago
tyson sucks, i can beat tyson.
veeseee128 8 months ago
Dempsey & Marciano?... that is just nostalgia talking. Tyson would demolish either of them. A prime Holmes, certainly, he'd give anyone trouble. So would a prime Foreman. And although Mike was a shadow of his former self against Lewis, I think Lennox would have given him problems even in his prime.
When it comes down to it though, I'd pick Mike Tyson in his prime (age 20-21) over any fighter.
JunmaiShu 9 months ago
@JunmaiShu Notice how his prime only lasted about 3 years.
InsertName125 8 months ago
Ali v Tyson would have been a great fight, certainly. If you want to assess Ali properly you need to watch his fights up to 1967. (What would he have been like in those missing 3 years?) Biggs - a good amateur and middling to mediocre pro - gave a pale indication of how Ali might have managed Tyson in the early stages. (unfortunately, Biggs lost his plan after 2 mins of rd.1 !)
strutherhill 9 months ago
@strutherhill Biggs lost his plan because he got hit. Getting hit with a few shots pretty much kills your mobility and ability to get punches off.
DanielSong39 6 months ago
@DanielSong39 Oh sure, you're absolutely right. Biggs really had no answer to Tyson's power and speed. The question - to which no-one knows the answer - is whether Muhammed Ali in his early twenties would have been able to outdance and outjab a young Mike Tyson.
strutherhill 6 months ago
that elbow knocked out Biggs on his feet. mike was a dirty fighter. he should have been disqualified and banned from boxing for life
PhuckHue2 1 year ago
You know you're a tough little fucker when you whoop a much bigger dude's ass till he crouches down under you! Make em bow !!!
Dadeuce 1 year ago
Tyson, one of the best of all time better than Ali better than frazier, better than Lennox I dont know if I can place him ahead of a prime Holmes, Dempsey or Marciano however
whitedeviltx 1 year ago
This is exactly how lennox would have been defeated he he fought prime tyson.
tokunboism 1 year ago 2
@tokunboism Fuck off lmao Lennox was always at his fucking prime, one of the onyl fighters to ever stay at his prime and Prime Lewis Would Fucking KILL Tyson, and 'Prime' Tyson
lglimited 8 months ago
@tokunboism Hi, do you think Tyson in 86-89 would have cut lewis down with body assaults and then moved in for the kill...i think Tyson would have stopped Lewis in rounds 6-9.....
Indul1 6 months ago
How many times can you elbow a guy before the ref does something about it?
Hardysamnin 1 year ago
i hate how every 2 secs the hug eachother and the ref has to break them up. i mean every fukin 2 secs. thats jus boring
lordofkronos 1 year ago
Biggs showed lots of heart here. Tyson was as brutal as ever.
007rocksalotmann 1 year ago
that short left hook inside was a brutal punch by Tyson that spat the mouth piece of out Biggs.
BoxingPride 1 year ago
@BoxingPride that was a forearm, the "Tyson smash".
s1ghandnod 11 months ago
@s1ghandnod lol?
BoxingPride 11 months ago
@BoxingPride no lol
s1ghandnod 9 months ago
I believe that Tyson's stamina problems are perfectly understandable. he used to throw every punch with bad intentions. every singel one of his powerful punches was suppose to ko his oppenent and that is what was taking his energy during the course of a fight. throwing hard punches for 6 or 7 rounds would anybody give stamina problems. but still he is one of the greatest
miketysonism 2 years ago
He was an early started and put most of the energy in early to wear out his opponents...very similar to Jack Dempsey...which helped him later in the fight because the opponents also slowed down..but at that point, they were broken down mentally and physically...which then could allow Tyson to "box"
People tend to forget that this was a different era Tyson was in. He was no longer a "normal" size HW. He was now regarded as a "Small" HW because it was a Super-HW era.
Orangewind 2 years ago
i feel like you still got it wrong, first it sounds like ur imitating teddy atlas who said that almost identically, but tyson in his prime still threw hard shot but then he threw quick percise combinations and wore down the body, then took to head hunting. It was when tyson moved to looking for the 1 hit KOs that hurt him in the ring the most coz thats when u start trading punches and any talented pro boxer can do that.
jak1anorue 2 years ago
fadethetrade, watch tyson's holding and you'll notice he doesn't hold the other boxer to stop them punching him, but so they don't go anywhere while he punches them.
CJOKUSAP 2 years ago
according to mrpleasant below, tyson won all his fights by clinging to his opponents! un-fuckin-believable!
tyson was THE LEAST likely heavyweight to use holding tactics to win a fight.
CJOKUSAP 2 years ago
watch at 1:33 to 1:36,tyson missed the left and HE was the one that actually clinched.This was why Douglas and holyfield figured him out.They opened up on tyson every time as tyson forced the clinch after missing.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
Tyson made a comment that when he hit Biggs to the body he made a noise like a girl,,,,,later in prison he apologised for that remark as silly and a bit sick
Indul1 2 years ago
listen to the ref say "let him go tyrell" for those of you who said tyson grabs and holds, ya he does.. Who doesnt lol.. Not one of tysons best fights, but everyone cant fight amzing everytime, you wouldnt be human if you did
mekal1989 2 years ago
Damn, look at that head snap back at 0:36!
InnerIced 2 years ago
that was a punch that knocked out his mouth guard at 32
1of2dogs 2 years ago
32 he knocked he's mouth protection out
1of2dogs 2 years ago
he "elbowed" his mouthpiece out!!!
CoolRockinPapi 2 years ago
biggs' legs were like jello, he was easy pickins for tyson.
mrpleasant34 2 years ago
i didn't notice before through the years of watching tyson's fights that he grabbed and held and wrested with his opponents for most of the rounds in his fights. he didn't throw many punches.
mrpleasant34 2 years ago
I watched the tyson/holyfield 1 fight and holy took his shots and all this grabbing.Maybe tyson was a little overrated,even here in 1988.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
Overrated? Dude tell me you're not serious! You can't compare post prison Tyson to the Tyson of the 80's PERIOD!
renegado454 2 years ago
I know what happened to tyson.He was a 5-7 round fighter.With all the disputes with tyson lovers and haters and experts saying he folded when confronted.I dont believe that.i think it was his lack of a second half of the fight ability that caused his demise because had tyson been strong in the late rounds as frazier was,tyson should have finished douglas in the 8th and shoul;d have put holy away after the bolo combo in the 5th but instead he lost the 6th against holy and the fight turned around
fadethetrade 2 years ago
5-7 ROUND FIGHTER ? TYSON HAS WON Some 12 ROUND DECISIONS
blaq7427 2 years ago
Just a few but you're missing my point.Don't get me wrong,I was a tyson fanatic but strictly speaking,he was only a brute skilled fighter up to the 7th round.His stamina was his demise after the 7th because he never fought anyone who was a skilled pro and KO them after the 7th .NOT ONE FIGHTER.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
most fighters dont have a lot of ko after 7 rounds because they are tired .
blaq7427 2 years ago
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watch at 1:33 to 1:36,tyson missed the left and HE was the one that actually clinched.This was why Douglas and holyfield figured him out.They opened up on tyson every time as tyson forced the clinch after missing.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
Frazier wouldnt have a chance against Tyson
blaq7427 2 years ago
But frazier of 1971 would beat douglas in tokyo and holyfield of 1996.because frazier had the tools tyson lacked to be able to beat those guys.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
Joe had STAMINA and got stronger as the fight progressed,a big weakness of evn classic tyson of 86-88
fadethetrade 2 years ago
tyson had stamina he was a better athlete than joe and had more skills than joe All joe really had was a left hook which was tremendous but besides that he didnt have a whole lot of ways of hurting you
blaq7427 2 years ago
That's true, Joe was a converted southpaw that lacked a right hand. This guy fadethetrade thinks that a puncher should ko everyone he fights, if he doesn't then it's stamina! lol I guess by his logic Duran, Chavez, Ray Robinson, Hagler, Hearns, Dempsey, Liston, all had stamina problems because a lot of their victories went the distance. And these guys were the hardest punchers in their weight classes.
lorenzodemedici1 2 years ago
Yes , I believe this is part of the unfair backlash against Tyson . Tyson drew criticism for his fights against guys like Tillis and Bonecrusher Smith because everybody thought he should be KOing everybody as if he were a machine and not a man. What they failed to notice is a fighter adapting to his opponents and finding others to win besides by KO. Other fighters get credit for that, but never Tyson.
blaq7427 2 years ago
It was his stamina that was the issue because he lost his numbing power after the 5th6th or 7th rounds.Something happened to tysons punching power after the 6th round.He was one ko after 7th round and that one was questionable.If he had a few ko's against decent fighters after 7th,then it would validate the opinions but he had this problem and rooney knew it all along.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
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This guy fadethe trade knows what the facts are and rooney understood also:It was his stamina that was the issue because he lost his numbing power after the 5th6th or 7th rounds.Something happened to tysons punching power after the 6th round.He was one ko after 7th round and that one was questionable.If he had a few ko's against decent fighters after 7th,then it would validate the opinions but he had this problem and rooney knew it all along.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
You dont have to ko everyone,true,however,when you're a champ compared to ali and 42-0 with 36 ko's before your 24th birthday and you have a fighter on the canvas in the 8th after taking a beating,you find the ability to finish that guy in the 9th. He couldn't because he lsot his stamina and punching power in tokyo.same with Tucker,he should have ko'd tucker in the 10th when he hurt him and rooney yelled out:"FINISH HIM MIKE YOU HURT HIM!"
fadethetrade 2 years ago
Everybody loses stamina in afight thats why most kos happen b4 the 7th rather than after the 7th. Tyson didnt catch douglas fully with that punch and Tyson was getting beat up so how exactly was he supposed to fifnish off a fighter that is not nearl as hurt as he was?
blaq7427 2 years ago
Because thats the sign of a great champion.Smokin joe frazier would come back and ko doglas any day of any motivated douglas and tyson should have done the same but it was his lack of stamina that weakened his punching power.His lack of finishing off ruddock,a guy who he should have ko'd the second fight because he lacked the stamina to do it.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
why do you everybody is supposed to get KOed?
Sometimes a KO is not going to happen
blaq7427 2 years ago
not only ko late but how about liike frazzier did to ali in 1971,just come on strong knock himdown in the 14th and pummel him and win a decision.Tyson really never did that with any of his decision wins.ruddock was coming back too much late in that second fight.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
Ruddock wasn't doing anything. Ruddock had a broken jaw and was busted up.
Orangewind 2 years ago
Well when you don't train properly; don't do road-work; crash diet to get your weight down; yeah...your stamina will suck.
He should have "KO'd" Tucker? Really? A Peak, undefeated version of Tucker...who was 6'5, 220+...long reach and agile with a good long jab...who was also on the defensive?
Who KO'd Tucker at that point?
No one. Why? Because he was undefeated.
Even after years of partying, drugs, and being out of his prime...5 years later Lewis couldn't even do it.
Orangewind 2 years ago
That's the problem with some people with Tyson. If he doesn't knock them out...he is overrated and it is a bad win...even if he wins by UD.
Why? Because people just looked at his Power based on the hype around it and didn't pay attention to his actual "boxing skills" at that point...which were key in getting those KO's in the first place...let alone the UD wins he had.
Orangewind 2 years ago
rooney wasnt with mike in tokyo! he was fired after spinks fight. get it right
jak1anorue 2 years ago
To all the tyson fans,mike had stamina problems and this is the reason he couldn't become a top 3 of all time.The lack of stamina was the reasons he lost to douglas and holyfield,plain and simple.Not because he was a bully,not because he couldnt come back from defeat,not because he folded when confronted by another pro,it was because he lacked the STAMINA required to COME BACK after the 7th and get strong like he was in the first 3 rounds.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
you had a common misconception about tyson. you must have played mike tyson 's punchout and think thats how tyson fought. Tyson had plenty of stamina to go the distance . after 3 rounds all fighters are tired
blaq7427 2 years ago
if frazier lasted 15 rounds with tyson he would still lose because tyson had better skills and power
blaq7427 2 years ago
Look at how feeble he was in the second ruddock fight,he appeared to have lost all his power against razor ruddock,who frankly was not the best fighter around but tyson was brought into the later rounds and beat him to almost death but couldnt even knock him down anymore after the 7th!!
fadethetrade 2 years ago
If frazier lasted to the 7th,he very well could have beaten tyson especially the same tyson that holyfield ,douglas and lewis beat.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
the fact that tyson didnt have a bunch of ko after 7 rounds mean absolutely nothing because only a handful of tyson fights have gone past 7 and he does have a tko over jose ribalta in the 10th round
blaq7427 2 years ago
That fight was actually a questionable ko.Jose could have continued clearly until the bell rang in the 12th.Anyway,rabalta???you're kidding,right?
He should have ko'd bonecrusher,tucker and mitch green.Those guys were knockoutable by the great classic top 3 of all time tyson.right? How about Ruddock in the second fight? why didn't tyson finish off douglas after knocking him down in the last seconds of the 8th round for almost 10 seconds.The next round he almost got ko'd by douglas.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
he had ribalta hurt and ribalta wasnt fighting back therefore it was a justifiable tko . bonecrusher refused to fight tyson , he just kept grabbing him so tyson couldnt punch him, tucker was a really good fighter so its not as if you could just knock him out lennox lewis couldnt ko him either and he fought him when he wasnt in his prime anymore 5 years after tyson. Sometimes no matter how much you hit a guy you just cant ko them some guys have really good chins
blaq7427 2 years ago
what happenned to douglas,ruddock the second time and holyfield.The distance he went with tillis,green the bum,bonehugger and tucker were because of his lack of the stamina needed to ko them.That same stamina required to ko those guys which were all subpar fighters by the way,would be the factor needed to beat douglas,holy and lewis.Those guys simply had the style and were good enough to exploit the stamina deficiancy of tyson.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
Because a puncher isn't going to ko everyone he fights. George Foreman in his prime didn't ko everyone he fought, same with Liston, Dempsey, Shavers, Norton or anyone. Even at the smaller weights Duran, Hagler, Ray Robinson, Chavez didn't ko everyone they fought and had the victory, Is it because of stamina according to your logic? It's not because of Tyson's stamina it''s because the other guy just refuses to go down for various reasons in that fight. It could be heart, desire, pride, etc.
lorenzodemedici1 2 years ago
He lost his punching power after the 7th,this was because of his stamina.The peekaboo style takes alot out of tyson because he was flawless in his defense as well as his offense before the 7th round,then after,he seemed incapable of showing the same numbing power.These ared the facts,live with it,you'll sleep better at night.Quote by foreman:"tyson becomes an ordinary fighter after the 5th round."
fadethetrade 2 years ago
ANSWER: Tyson 's weakness was his STAMINA.end of story.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
@fadethetrade wrong, it was that he wasnt matured enough to reign as a champ for a long time like he could have, tyson had plenty stamina in his fights that lasted more than 6 rounds in the 80s. And ribalta was in great fucking shape when tyson fought him and still tyson never faltered much at all.
jak1anorue 1 year ago
@jak1anorue Tyson's stamina questioned? 12 rounds against Tucker, Bonecrusher, distance against Tillis and Mitch green
Indul1 1 year ago
@Indul1, look im a tyson fan, but if u understood boxing ud know that in boxing if ur a swarmer, that means u fight in continous spurts of alot of energy, yes tyson lasted the distance but only against a couple guys, id have to see him fight greats to prove he really had amazing stamina like ali. but yes tyson does have avg stamina
jak1anorue 1 year ago
He lost his power as the fight progressed.why dont you just understand that fact.This was why he struggled to ko guys he should have ko'd and why he lost to douglas and holyfield and went 12 and looked lathargic with ruddock who was easily destroyed by a lewis.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
why dont you understand that fighters dont usually ko people in late rounds . ko happen in early in middle rounds most of the time
blaq7427 2 years ago
If tyson was able to ko douglas in the 9th whioch he should have,beaten holyfield in the 5th when he boloed him to the ropes,the next rounds those guys completely took over from tyson and it was that lack of stamina that tyson would have needed to ko bonecrusher,tillis,green and tucker.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
u clearly dont know much about boxing.
tyson was getting beat up versus douglas. he was able to catch douglas with an uppercut partly because douglas was sleeping on him because he thought he had the fight won already. Tyson was getting hammered and he didnt completely catch douglas fully with that ounch thats why he couldnt finish douglas. tyson was a shell of himself vs holyfield and bonecrusher held tyson arms all night so he couldnt get off any punches. Green had a good chin
blaq7427 2 years ago
@fadethetrade not everyone is the same, and you cant expect a ko out of every fight!!
jak1anorue 1 year ago
I didnt explain it right.The same lack of finishing douglas and holyfield was thre same lack he had that stopped him from finishing tucker,tillis,bonecrusher,green and ruddock 2.His STAMINA was not at the same level as the rest of his skill.Thats my final point.good night.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
bonecrusher should have been beaten to a pulp by just holding on AND he actually had tyson on queer street with 15 seconds left in the fight.Tyson was tired and falling asleep.could you imagine what holyfield the wrrior would have done in that situation?????
fadethetrade 2 years ago
you cant punch someone if they grab you thats why holding is not allowed. Bonecrusher never had tyson hurt he hit him because tyson was sleeping on him because he didnt try to fight the night . He tried to catch tyson with something in hopes tyson had a bad chin but chin is too strong to get hurt with one punch
blaq7427 2 years ago
@blaq7427 thank you for getting it right, fadethetrade is so negatively biased about Tyson capability because he keeps trying to avoid the fact that Tyson was unstoppable when he was fully focused and not negatively influenced by everybody close to him
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jak1anorue 1 year ago
@fadethetrade hey dumbass, if your talking about a tyson in the 90s then thats not really the same tyson that literally dominated in the 80s.
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mrpleasant34 2 years ago
you watched at some talk show where there were ali, tyson and sugar ray, Biggs did elbow too and tyson actually said "oh you do elbow too?! you gonna die you do elbow you gonna die!" so that;s why tyson used elbow...whatever man it's a fight!
sagat10 2 years ago
wow tyson is a dirty asshole
he has a good fighting style though
loupou109 2 years ago
actually jondvw if u know anything about boxing you'd know that lewis has to be ranked at a certain point to fight the champion solewis deciding to turn pro when tyson was at his peak was no risk to him at all
HEATKING826 2 years ago
I love how you fuckin tyson haters watch tyson's whole fight collection to talk shit go watch an ali fight kid if you think hes th geatest
HEATKING826 2 years ago 15
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INteresting fact, Tyson said on his interviews that Muhammad Ali was his inspriation, pretty cool two best fighters of there time.
hbk711x 1 year ago
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stezothewhitenegro4y 9 months ago
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in real life aLi and Tyson are gud riends Tyson ooked up to ALi, ALi went to Tyson's school as a kid and he spoke to teh kids , it was a detention center, he as visting the youth. They are gud Muslims brothers ever since Tyson started boxing again.
Its cool how they are both linked, two unique fighters of two generations.
hbk711x 6 months ago
Point 2: Biggs was dropped by clean punches, not elbows.
Michlimania 2 years ago 2
Did he hit him with an elbow at 1:35 that sent his gumshield flying ? then a big ohh from the crowd, and the referee is the only one seeing it ?
onlineboxingdotnet 2 years ago 3
tyson fought briggs during their amatuer career.
Japandrifting 2 years ago
No he did not. But I see what you mean ;-)
ph1484 2 years ago
Tyrell Biggs sealed his own fate during the amateurs. After Tyson lost to Henry Tillman and was extremely upset about it, Tyrell shot off his Biggs mouth, insulted Tyson, and laughed about it.
Tyson never forgot the slight.
For those kiddies who aren't old enough to remember, Tyson vowed to punish Biggs for the distance and take him out in the 12th. Tyson could have knocked this fool out any time after the third, but chose to punish him, which is obvious in the clips. Biggs QUIT in the 7th
wayupinya1 2 years ago
Biggs took the gutless, coward's way out. Tyson got his revenge. Tyson always made a habit of consoling his victims after the fight was over, but did NOT do so with Biggs, nor was Biggs worthy. He got his Biggs mouth SHUT by his master Tyson.
Tyson also met up with Tillman in the pros. Since Tillman had not been a jerk, Tyson humanely took out Tillman in one.
And yes, Buster Douglas OWNED Tyson.
wayupinya1 2 years ago
you tyson ass wipes are funny, tyson isn't even in Ali's league, a young George Foreman would knock tyson out in the first round ! lmao
pullshtter 3 years ago
To even make that statement proves unequivocally you are a bona fide dumb ass.
Michlimania 3 years ago
Tyson throws elbows like hell!
ph1484 3 years ago
Yes he does, I counted atleast 4 BLATANT elbows from Tyson.
If seen he could EASILY had been disqualified. Very dirty was Tyson in this fight amongst others.
imperialpod 2 years ago
So had Tyson not thrown elbows, Biggs would have won the fight?
Get a fucking clue grasshopper.
Michlimania 2 years ago 2
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puljacina 3 years ago
Tyson should have been DQd with all those elbows.
thesethreekings 3 years ago 2
david tua would murder this bitch biggs!!!he should have stayed at basketball!!!
puljacina 3 years ago
where the fuck is David Tua what has he done????????
springbox1982 3 years ago
ahahaha..biggs was a joke!!!a REAL BUM!!!!this wannabe- ali hadnt even 5% of alis potential!!!tyson was overhyped in the 80s FACT
puljacina 3 years ago
ali hadn't even 5% of alis potential?
thesethreekings 3 years ago 2
It would be a hard case to make that any heavyweight would have beat Tyson on this night...
donnyaldridge 3 years ago 2
lol in the postfight interview the guy asked tyson what happend when you were punching the body? and then tyson said "he was making noises" the guy then asked "what kind of noises?" and then he was making woman noises like ooooh-ooooh-oooooooh-ooooh-ooh.
lol
FriscoRider 3 years ago
tyson hated biggs. tyson detested biggs amatuer style. when the two would see each other at amatuer fights, tyson would intentionally bump into biggs and one time spit on him. tyson hated biggs. biggs was a pretty boy and not a mean fighter. he should have stuck to basketball.
Japandrifting 3 years ago
why did he hate biggs?
forebiden213 3 years ago
during their amatuer days, biggs was getting all the press. he was a pretty, well-spoken boxer and tyson was the opposite. tyson was often heard saying biggs was not a real boxer and didn't like to mix it up. tyson also felt he should have gone to the olympics instead of biggs.
Japandrifting 3 years ago
Interesting. What's your source?
ph1484 3 years ago
A book called "Bad Intentions." It was written around 1988. Gives great insight.
Japandrifting 3 years ago
Thanks a lot!
ph1484 3 years ago
Just to be clear, It was Tillman that beat Tyson, not Biggs
sergelapelle 2 years ago
who remembers BABY JESSICA??, well she's the little baby who was trapped in a well years ago, it was actually the same night of the TYSON vs BIGGS fight. i remember because those were the 2 top news stories of that night. look it up so u can see for yourself.
nevawrong 3 years ago
shut the fuck up.
makpak 3 years ago
why u tellin me to "SHUT THE FUCK UP"??. im tellin the 100% truth asshole
nevawrong 3 years ago
Biggs took the gutless, coward's way out. Tyson got his revenge. Tyson always made a habit of consoling his victims after the fight was over, but did NOT do so with Biggs, nor was Biggs worthy. He got his Biggs mouth SHUT by his master Tyson.
Tyson also met up with Tillman in the pros. Since Tillman had not been a jerk, Tyson humanely took out Tillman in one.
And yes, Buster Douglas OWNED Tyson.
wayupinya1 3 years ago
Biggs didnt take the cowards way out. He could have quit a any time, but didnt. He even got up after first round to take more punishment. If the "cowards way out" is to take massive punishment round after round, then ok..lol
onlineboxingdotnet 2 years ago 3
Tyrell Biggs sealed his own fate during the amateurs. After Tyson lost to Henry Tillman and was extremely upset about it, Tyrell shot off his Biggs mouth, insulted Tyson, and laughed about it.
Tyson never forgot the slight.
For those kiddies who aren't old enough to remember, Tyson vowed to punish Biggs for the distance and take him out in the 12th. Tyson could have knocked this fool out any time after the third, but chose to punish him, which is obvious in the clips. Biggs QUIT in the 7th
wayupinya1 3 years ago 3
later for all the shit you dudes are talkin, a tyson with his head together, and in shape will walk through anybody
marvdude 4 years ago 10
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54321FUCKYOU 4 years ago
Sorry...3:00 mark
MurasakiCho 4 years ago
The best part about this video is if you look on the left hand side of the screen after the first knockdown (about the 6:00 mark) you can see Oprah covering her face in horror. I remember watching the fight live. You won't see her at any fights these days.
MurasakiCho 4 years ago
tyson is not in the top 5.....he would have been easily but for various circumstances....jail, don king...etc etc...cannot be considered top 5.....but i agree with statements that he would hav beaten most comers in 86-88
spinika7 4 years ago
what a punch 2 finish him off! tyson did use his elbows quite a lot in this fight though, i counted 4 times
littlef 4 years ago
Tyrell Biggs was 15-0 against bums, and he got a shot at the undisputed heavyweight title. That to me is proof of the weakness of the heavyweight division in the late eighties. There just weren't any big (240 pounds) guys around who could box and punch, like Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis. If David Tua had been around in those days in stead of Tyson, he would be considered a legend today, now he's just another contender.
jonvdw 4 years ago
Ok,well I guess the 70s era of the heavyweight was weak also? Eh? Ya know since the 6-0 Spinks got a shot of the Undisputed Title against Ali also.I GOT YA THERE,CANT DISAGREE WITH THAT.haha. A gold medal goes a long way. Or even the 19-0 Ali fighting Sonny Liston. Now quit the hate on Tyson.;)
mystyal 4 years ago
Leon Spinks was a bumb (he lost 17 of his 46 fights). The fact that Ali lost to him is proof that he should have quit after the Rumble. But Ali did fight and beat guys like Foreman, Frazier and Norton, who are all time greats. Tyson beat one all time great heavyweight, namely Larry Holmes, but Holmes was 38 at the time, and hadn't fought in 2 years.
jonvdw 4 years ago
Tyson defeated two all time greats:Holmes and an undefeated Michael Spinks. Mike could beat anybody in 88 because he was on a mission to be the best. under kevin rooney Iron Mike was a boxing machine...Holmes was so confident that he was gonna KO Tyson...no excuse for losing...in my book Tyson is in the top 5 heavyweights. Ali is number one just because he had a great career but i honestly think a prime Tyson would beat any boxer in history
joshw88 4 years ago
Michael Spinks is an all-time great LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT. As a heavyweight he lost twice to Holmes (even though the judges gave it to Spinks), he beat a nobody in Steffen Tangsted and an almost retired Gerry Cooney. I agree that Tyson in his prime ('86-'89) was a great fighter, but three good years don't justify a place in the all-time top five.
jonvdw 4 years ago
did you know kewwis is older then tyson, he stayed out of the pro leage because in the 80's lewwis sparred tyson and was knocked out of the ring..he waited had he fought tyson in this area he gets ko'd.
nigger130 4 years ago
First of all, Lewis stayed in the amateur ranks because he wanted an olympic gold medal. Besides, how in the hell was Lewis supposed to know when Tyson would be in his prime and when he would be over the hill. Lewis turned pro immediately after the '88 Olympics, right at the peak of Tyson's career (the annihilation of an overrated Michael Spinks). That's proof that he wasn't afraid of Tyson.
jonvdw 4 years ago
did u know biggs gave lewwis a beating in the olympics! also lewwis sparred with tyson in new york, ask anybody lewwis was knocked out of the ring... so if lewwis had trouble with biggs in the 80's what makes u think he could beat a prime tyson!
nigger130 4 years ago
What kind of reasoning is this. Yes, Lewis lost to Biggs in the quarter final of the '84 Olympics, but Tyson didn't even get to those Olympics because he lost to Henry Tillman twice! Does that make Tillman a better fighter than Tyson? You have to understand that you can't compare amateur and professional boxing. Besides, in '84, Lennox was only 18 years old, compared to a 23 year old Biggs.
jonvdw 4 years ago
prime tyson prime tyson!tyson didnt take challange on 100 million even of old foreman!and old foreman fight all 15 rounds with holyfield extremly well! tyson was knocked off by holyfield!!old foreman didnt take even a rest between the rounds and to you want to say that tyson could do the same in 45!in young days georg had killed tyson in first round!in old daye he need some4-5 rounds!forgot mike!he is good only with lean boxers who are afraiding him and so are losers before fight has began!
supralee 4 years ago
I think you are right. What particularly impressed me was your ability to make sense.
johndunn87 4 years ago
You cant compare what happened in one fight with the other. Example-Buster Douglas was stopped by Tony Tucker in the 11th round, Tyson beat Tucker by decision, then Douglas knocked out Tyson and the rest is history.
Rambo1983 3 years ago
That's not a very good analogy because even if Biggs did beat Lewis then, Biggs was older, had more experience back then and Lewis wasn't a fully developed fighter. I believe a prime Tyson would have beaten Lewis, but that's not the best way to present your argument.
guitarbandit7498 3 years ago
Secondly, it's true that they sparred together in Catskill when they were both amateurs and still in their teens, and it's also true that Tyson overwhelmed Lewis in the first round (simply because Lewis wasn't used to Tyson's bull-like style), but after the first round, Lewis was able to control Tyson.
jonvdw 4 years ago
I watched this fight live. I wish stavros had shown the interview Tyson had with Larry Merchant afterward. Tyson said that Biggs was "squealing in there" when Tyson would hit him with a good shot. I remember the pleasure that Tyson seemed to have when he said it. I also remember Tyson imitating Biggs squealing, but that's probably not accurate.
kolst8406 4 years ago
Tyson's jab with at the :35 second mark was unreal. Biggs really took a pounding in this fight.
TheSimulator 4 years ago
He had little pop in his punches,no game plan and no defense.Apart from that everything went swimingly for Biggs!
Davross 4 years ago
No he wasnt.He didnt stick to his game plan. Thats why he got brutally knocked out.
mcdabbers 4 years ago
Biggs was drugged and that is why he lost it was a fixed fight!
dman244 4 years ago
He was drugged with a left hook to the grill.
KTF0 4 years ago
why the hell would anyone want to be a boxer
embryo923 4 years ago
money or love of the sport or fame or legacy
PureEvilJester 4 years ago
i love the sport very much but it would take alot for my to step into the ring against a trained killer.
embryo923 4 years ago
im talking about boxers not your pansy self
PureEvilJester 4 years ago
At least your honest.
SteveHitchcock 4 years ago