its awesome that after this ending you gain sympathy for the helgan. First you think they are some kind of nazi's (like killing civilians) but when you see what their logo means... thats respect
You know, if the ISA knew the Helghast' resolve and realize it wasn't worth it, Killzone 2 would had ended in 5 minutes
[Visari, Helghan]
"... We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood! And as our last breath tears at their lungs, as we rise again from the ruins of our cities, they will know, Helghan belongs to the Helghast!"
@gasdfw5 If you wan't the helghast to invade Earth in Killzone 4 the story will have to take place at least 1000 years after the events in killzone 3.
Visari is still alive. The one killed in KZ2 is a double. In the KZ3 intro they said "the package is ready" referring to the Nuke which they would use to make the Helghast think the ISA nuked them and ignite their fury.
Radec shoots the witness.
"Sir we have to move the ISA are here".
Visari takes off in his ship that you see at the end of Killzone 2 and the double stays behind and is killed.
At the end of Killzone 3 Visari's ship is shot down but he escapes in a pod and in the credits scene h
@SilentcrisisUK visari is dead. this was confirmed in killzone 3. also the dude in the escape pod was stalh. u could tell from the shadow. also there was no visari double.
@myclothedontmatchbch no that was some random guy that knew about the plan to nuke phyrus and wasnt high enough in rank to be trusted to keep the plan a secret.
nvrmind on my first comment between radec and visari. id pick visari bcause he lead an army against an extremely large invasion and he pretty much defeated the whole thing. but for the other ones i still agree
I honestly can't see why Comm. Narville didn't have Rico immediately executed. Rico killed off the only bartering chip the ISA forces had of possibly getting of of Helghan alive. I mean sure Comm. Narville is no Col. Radec, who would have soldiers shot for mere uniform violation, but any military would warrent an execution for this blatently insubordinate, if not treasonous behavior!
Hopefully GG will hear our cries for the Helghast to finally be given justice and have revenge in Killzone 4. And if our wish is granted, we can only hope it performs... adequately.
@TPizzle83 if u think of it. would u kill him if hes the commander of the army tht just massacred ur friends. rico had good reason to kill him. and if visari had the gun and rico did im pretty sure visari would blow his head off right there
@MrCrazedmaniac i think they ment to play as a helgan in the single player mode from start to finish
some thing like playing in the helgan side of the story just like KZ1 and KZ2 and so do KZ3 where you play as an isa soldier but they did that on the psp you play as an helgan that was only on the psp.
I'll never understand WHY Rico killed Emperor Visari, and in Killzone 3 faced no repercussion for it whatsoever. The poor man had no way to defend himself and was not making a notion toward fighting them.
Kz3 takes place RIGHT after kz2 and kz4 will be right after kz3 so yes the endings are sort of "deadens" but the next game is always hours after the last one. Nakto is the second players character in co-op campaign so he doesn't disappear
in the opening scene of killzone 2 you see that visari has blue eyes.in this he has brown eyes so its a double in Killzone 3 his daughter notices something's wrong with daddy.he returned to vekta in the end
I HOPE THAT GUERILLA LEARNED LESSON WITH KILLZONE 3. IT WAS A GOOD MOTHERFUCKING GAME,BUT STORY WAS GETTING DUMBER LEVEL BY LEVEL...ENDING IS ALSO WORST PIECE OF SHIT THERE IS...IT'S ENDING IS LIKE THOSE STUPID ENDINGS IN CoD GAMES...
@1777power (This may be out of content but I guesting what your saying) I think they stayed and unitl the end went up the space elivator to the helgast spacestation and took the ship and nuked the whole planet lol I complepted KZ3
When Rico shot... I screamed loud.. F*UK MAAAN NOOO... WHAT U HAVE DONE.. STUPID Ass.. Rico must hang up for killing such God-est Leader Scolar VISARI
Why do people think visari is still alive? Because theyre gamers, and as much as I love gamers and games my vast experience with talking and reading gamer comments leads me to believe that the majority of gamers are fucking idiots.
And they need to just kill rico, he's a poor mans Cole in gears and that's saying something considering Cole is one of the worst vg characters in history.
also the "making vesari a martyr" you can see the ISA propaganda saying "vesari plays a martyr..." and here in the end he tell why the ISA feers so much of making him one, and in killzone 3 we can see that in 6 months helgan makes vekta surrender and plant to hit earth hard... vesari's death was the fuel for the fire
How can anyone think that Visari is still alive, have none of you played Killzone 3? the whole game is based on the super powers trying to fill the void Visari left, the storyline of the whole game is a power struggle trying to take over Visari's place. The video at the beginning was either a video based slightly before the events leading to his death or that one in KZ3 is the doppelganger, either way the real one is dead
The writers never explain how both Sev and Rico got demoted, then promoted back when watching the cutscenes. Its dumb. Orlock is a better villian than Sthal.
@spoonmonkey14 I agree. K3's story was dissapointing. When I was thrilled by both the K2 story videos and the K3 Story trailer, I thought K3's story would be awesome. But sadly, it isn't. The ending of K3 can be resumed in one phrase: "Wait 2/3 years for the sequel", and it was absolutly stupid.
come on. sev says "i wonder how many people were down there" and then it ends. oh yeah and then 2 helghast appear and say something to stahll/visari whatever. it was way to abrupt and rushed.
i know. i love killzone. killzone 3 was slightly dissapointinf but i still love it and the multiplyer but the maps are'nt great anyway good game, not much of a story but exciting. what i want from k4 is too be its own beast. it seems to take a bit out of cod with the snow levels. the jungle level took it straight out of "All Ghillied Up" from cod4
involve it more with a story and the characters and the war but not just about blowing up aa guns and saving narville.
@spoonmonkey14 Killzone 3 had a good story. The main problem was the ending, it was abrupt. But how do you top Killzone 2's ending? They were doomed to top that ending no matter what.
I know, I was expecting more than some massive firefight which were supposed to be levels. And anyway the so called cliffhanger with the guy in the pod could be any of these 3.
1-Narville cos he wasnt in the spaceship fight at the end and he was peeyed of with evreyone
2-Stahl cos its his private army
Visari- cos This was a body double. In the opening cutscene of Killzone 3 his daughter notices something's wrong with daddy.
@spoonmonkey14 Yeah, KZ3 definetly seemed rushed. I know they had the engine and everything ready to make it but it came out way earlier than I expected.
I also noticed a bunch of crappy plot devices. Like since when did they have "warp drives" and stuff. I know Stahl arm was the weapons manufacturer but really? And I know its cool but the MAWLER was just annoying, it had guns popping out of every inch of it.
Yeah Visari is still alive. This was a body double. In the opening cutscene of Killzone 3 his daughter notices something's wrong with daddy. Visari returned to Helgan in the end. I think Killzone 4 will be a few years later, when Helghast have rebuild there armies to attack earth and completely destroy Vekta.
even if you are right, i dont thnik they would destroy Vekta, coz its the main reason this war started, coz Vekta was considered a high value Helgan teritory (coz they colonized it 1st).. but with that double you might be right :P
Wrong.The intro cutscene in KZ 3 took place before the ISA invasion on helghan.You even see Radec and the red dust nuclear bomb that the helghast detonated in KZ 2.The person you see in the escape pod in the KZ 3 ending was Stahl, look at the shadow projected on the helghast.It looks exactly like stahl.not to mention the two helghat there were stahl arm troopers.Visari did die in KZ 2
@zeratul1356 Wrong. The intro cutscene of Killzone 3 took place right before the ISA launched the attack on Visari's palace. Radeck was still there because you kill him at the end of Killzone 2 obviously. At the end you hear a helghast trooper say 'Sir you have to move, the ISA are here'. If they moved him, the visari that died in KZ2 is obviously a body double. And there's also the fact that his daughter notices that something is wrong with daddy.
You are correct about the cutscene timing(I looked it up after I posted the comment).But not about visari at the end of KZ 2 being a double.Look at it this way.If the visari at the end of KZ 2 was a double, then why the hell did the helghast go into a civil war for control?Orlock says at the end on the intro" sir you have to move, the isa are here" so then why the hell did he get named autarch?Or why did the helghast do a massive memorial?None of KZ 3 would have happened
BTW, look at the shadow projected on the two helghast troopers in the KZ 3 cliffhanger.The shadow looks exactly like stahl.Not to mention when stahl says "Fuu Fuuu Fuuuuuuck" he runs out of the camera's veiw obviously for an escape pod.Visari is dead, and just because he was told to move doesnt mean he did.Radec wouldnt have risk his life and tons of his mens life for a double.You theory doesnt make any sense
@zeratul1356 Well I agree on that part. I think it's very open for speculation, and I really enjoy this discussion. However, there's still the daughter in the intro cutscene who just notices something... wrong. Why does she do that? I mean to me that looks like an obvious hint from guerilla that there's something wrong with Visari, and I think it would kind of make sense...
@zeratul1356 The reason why Radec risked the lives of all his man is because they are Helghast, it was either fight and die or run like pussy's. Radec, knowing he excecuted 2 of his own in Killzone 2 for uniform violation, would rather die than to run. Also the reason why Killzone 3 happened is because they did not tell all the helghast about Visari still living only the elite force. Telling them to "Kill Visari's assassins" would only motivate them because Visari was so beloved by the Helghast.
Okay dude, seriously.Stahl, Orlock, the entire senate would know if visari has a double.They would dare not make another man an autarch.helghan wouldnt have went into a civil war.Stahl would not have attacked the helghast fleet with his cruiser if he knew visari was still alive(and he WOULD know).The senate wouldnt be bickering on who to make helghans leaders.Rdec was a proud warrior but not foolish enough to abandon the real visari for a fake one.
@zeratul1356 The reason they could make another man autarch and Killzone 3's events took place could also just be out of convenience for the plot. But yes, I guess you're kind of right. I rest my case on the Radec part, if he wasn't defending Visari he would still be defending the palace. I'm just very curious who will step out of that cruiser in the sequel, we'll see who's right in the end. :) Cheers!
@Freestyleforcerer Lol fuck's sake! I wish I had played and finished Killzone 3 before I read that. Though I must admit, I always did wonder why Visari's eyes were a different colour in this scene from the intro cut-scene :)
@Freestyleforcerer No, you're wrong. That whole scene in Killzone 3 was tense because Visari wanted to nuke the city. He is dead and he is not coming back. The guy at the end of Killzone 3 was probably Stahl or the Commodore. Also, most life on Helghan has been irradiated because of Stahl's cruiser. If anything, the next Killzone will feature a new menace, or will be set several centuries later. There is no way the Helghast could rebuild within merely a few years,
@Freestyleforcerer good theory, I always asked myself why his daughter got back from him and why the Helghast said: "welcome sir"... maybe your theory is the right one :D
@Freestyleforcerer No, it wasn't, because the Killzone 3 opening cutscene with his daughter took place a few minutes before Visari nuked his capital. And that was a few hours before he was killed by Rico.
@TheXbadman Im not stupid... its pretty fucking obvious what they're based upon, but yet who's worse, the helghast and their expansion or the isa fucking them up for trying it and betraying its fellow soldiers in the process. Besides ww2 wasnt that "good vs evil" just look how much bs the US has right now...
@aseticelite : The Helghast are worse. If you read the back story, the cause of the first war (back when they owned Vekta) was from their actions on their people and the UCN. However, they became fascist and started war in revenge (Killzone 1) which caused the invasion of Helghan. Don't forget that Visari used oppression (even execution) and propaganda to control the people; and the Red Dust nuke on his capital.
@aseticelite : As for WWII, there was a reason the Axis Powers were called the "Axis of Evil". Their tactics were both brutal and ended with thousands being tried for war crimes afterwards. The most famous overly used examples are Hitler's Holocaust, the Japanese's infamous Nanking Massacre of the Chinese.
And I'd love to hear what "BS" you mean the US has right now, so I can show you how it's wrong.
@Kaesoism That may be true...But do you have any idea of the number of war crimes the US perform in the middle east right now? And all these go untried...Why?..Cuz everybody fears them? Thats the BS hes talking about.
@boneboy767 : Crimes? Like the death of civilians because they are among, and of, the enemy in the warzones, plus the fact that OPFOR has been known to kill them far more/worse than the US forces?
Yes, the US has done bad stuff, but if you compare the number of times and the degree of magnitude, compared to others (and the fact that the US is constantly involved in something; like a "world police"), then you realize that they do a "better" (not the best at times) job then others.
@Kaesoism Haha death isnt just it...Soldiers go as far as raping innocent civilians in the middle east is you didnt know. "Bad stuff" just about sums up what the US does.
@boneboy767 : A bias against the US is accusing it of genocide, conquest, and other horrific crimes as if it were unique to it; ignoring the Cambodian Genocide, African Tribes selling weaker tribes to European & Muslim slavers, Rape of Nanking, Aztec human sacrifice, Japanese treatment of POWs, Soviet Union's Genocide of its people, Mao Tze Dong's forced labor of his people, Original Chinese Unification, the Islamic Genocide of Polytheists, and the Mongol invasion of Baghdad.
@boneboy767 : As for your original comment, if you mean the few accounts that have already been dealt with (since the soldiers are then criminals), then yeah... That's so "bad".
Don't forget that those same civilians are raped by their own people just the same.
There is no sense trying to argue with people who will nitpick. People who pick one country to critisize on a situation when almost all if not all countries that existed have done the same (and even worse), are usually biased.
He says U.S soldiers are doing the raping, but seemingly don't think another country's soldier is doing the same. Individual soldier behavior should in no way reflect a country's armed forces or judicial system.
@boneboy767 Fear XDD, it's the billions of fools that feed the corporations that send countries to war so they can benefit from free resources, fearing a country would mean to be afraid of us. People are the power, the western people have to decent of a life to think about problems like people in the east do, they did not face communism or the aftermath of it, total collapse of economies so that western corporations could sell their goods forgetting the peoples needs.
@aseticelite I am glad that I see more that realise this. That war was only for power, and imagine if the "bad guys" had won, unity, every country united, no communism no cold war, maybe even world peace. And think of how the world would have looked today, maybe we would more advanced, with no stupid corporations holding think back.
@aseticelite Yeah, because Japan and Germany weren't carefully nurtured back to health by the USA - I'm sure the non-evil Nazis and Imperial Japanese would have done the same for an occupied England or China, yeah?
@aseticelite Yeah, because Japan and Germany weren't carefully nurtured back to health by the USA - I'm sure the non-evil Nazis and Imperial Japanese would have done the same for an occupied England or China, yeah?
Helghan is destroyed visari was right madness begins..
MrTuningmaster 5 days ago
killzone 2 multiplayer: died like visari
playstationNerdwork 1 week ago
its awesome that after this ending you gain sympathy for the helgan. First you think they are some kind of nazi's (like killing civilians) but when you see what their logo means... thats respect
LawlietDestiny 2 weeks ago
epic..
TheOnlyWAYtoStayHere 3 weeks ago
THIS IS MADNESS
madness...
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
tichergeorge 3 weeks ago
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You know, if the ISA knew the Helghast' resolve and realize it wasn't worth it, Killzone 2 would had ended in 5 minutes
[Visari, Helghan]
"... We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood! And as our last breath tears at their lungs, as we rise again from the ruins of our cities, they will know, Helghan belongs to the Helghast!"
[Supreme Commander, ISA Headquarters]
"...Oh forget it. PLAN B!"
[Epic planetary bombardment ensures]
TheVoiceOfReason93 1 month ago
Visari's eyes are blue in every opening of the games. His eyes in this game are brown. This may be a fake Visari.
darth0doom 2 months ago
fuckkk i lovee this !!!
bumptrance 2 months ago
Visari:and who are you seargent
sev:seargent sevchencko first class
Visari:they send a seargent to take Visari are your commanders really so GAY
Abbadon380 3 months ago 4
he should have said..."The horror...the horror"..."Heart of Darkness" ladies and gentlemen. All hail Visari!
Huscarlavery 3 months ago
@gasdfw5 If you wan't the helghast to invade Earth in Killzone 4 the story will have to take place at least 1000 years after the events in killzone 3.
marcus8374 3 months ago
For The Glory Of Helghan!
SuperGTO2010 4 months ago
madness, madness
x0fiz 4 months ago
i hate rico so much. he fucks everything up and basically speaking killed Garza. if only Sev joined the helghast
harryosbournez 4 months ago
ISA are a bunch of sons of ******. If you read the complete story of Killzone, you'll figure out. HELGHASTS FOREVER! VISARI ROCKS! ISA SUCKS!
lukenamelock 4 months ago
killzone is awesome and it's even made by dutch people that makes it even better!!!
pygonair 4 months ago
Visari is still alive. The one killed in KZ2 is a double. In the KZ3 intro they said "the package is ready" referring to the Nuke which they would use to make the Helghast think the ISA nuked them and ignite their fury.
Radec shoots the witness.
"Sir we have to move the ISA are here".
Visari takes off in his ship that you see at the end of Killzone 2 and the double stays behind and is killed.
At the end of Killzone 3 Visari's ship is shot down but he escapes in a pod and in the credits scene h
SilentcrisisUK 4 months ago
@SilentcrisisUK visari is dead. this was confirmed in killzone 3. also the dude in the escape pod was stalh. u could tell from the shadow. also there was no visari double.
kuwashi 4 months ago
@SilentcrisisUK sounds good and actually quite possible ^^
crusaderofmortis 3 months ago
not really I completed killzone 3
crazyant46 5 months ago
@crazyant46 Killzone 3 was a disappointment. That's what his comment is about -__-
Silvannetwork 3 months ago
Killzone died with Visari.
Wurstbrot03 5 months ago 18
@Wurstbrot03 and will be reborn with very soon,look at the Easter Egg ending KZ4
Duke0Forever 2 months ago
@Wurstbrot03
Killzone might have died with Visari...
but the Helghan Empire lives forever!
GucciVealis 1 week ago
Visari= genius
SingularNinjular 6 months ago
Did they kill radec in the prologue of killzone 3?
myclothedontmatchbch 6 months ago
@myclothedontmatchbch no that was some random guy that knew about the plan to nuke phyrus and wasnt high enough in rank to be trusted to keep the plan a secret.
vhhsairsoft 5 months ago
nvrmind on my first comment between radec and visari. id pick visari bcause he lead an army against an extremely large invasion and he pretty much defeated the whole thing. but for the other ones i still agree
brycegankosky 6 months ago
1.the beginning intro cutscene. where the isa r massacred
2. ISA ALL DA WAY
3. Sev,Radec. bcause sev destroyed an army of helghast. and radec has the sweetest armor in the game
brycegankosky 6 months ago
I honestly can't see why Comm. Narville didn't have Rico immediately executed. Rico killed off the only bartering chip the ISA forces had of possibly getting of of Helghan alive. I mean sure Comm. Narville is no Col. Radec, who would have soldiers shot for mere uniform violation, but any military would warrent an execution for this blatently insubordinate, if not treasonous behavior!
TheNobleScarecrow 6 months ago 3
@WhereverIMayRoam1993 This, is an OUTRAGE!
Hopefully GG will hear our cries for the Helghast to finally be given justice and have revenge in Killzone 4. And if our wish is granted, we can only hope it performs... adequately.
TPizzle83 6 months ago
It pisses me off and kind of saddens me every time I see that bastard Rico kill Visari. :'(
He was just talking to them with no weapon on hand or near, and Rico filled him full of lead...
Who are the villains again?
TPizzle83 6 months ago
@TPizzle83 I honestly think that the helghast just wanted revenge for what the Earth and the normal humans did to them....
sovietlesley 6 months ago
@TPizzle83 if u think of it. would u kill him if hes the commander of the army tht just massacred ur friends. rico had good reason to kill him. and if visari had the gun and rico did im pretty sure visari would blow his head off right there
brycegankosky 6 months ago
*voice appears*
madness?
THIS! IS! Sp.. oh wait.. wrong place.. sorry guys
AzariahKyras 6 months ago
Wth? Why are people saying "I want a killzone on helgan!!!" killzone 2 is in helgan.....
MrCrazedmaniac 7 months ago
@MrCrazedmaniac LOL!!!
gearsofwarsucks 6 months ago
@MrCrazedmaniac i think they ment to play as a helgan in the single player mode from start to finish
some thing like playing in the helgan side of the story just like KZ1 and KZ2 and so do KZ3 where you play as an isa soldier but they did that on the psp you play as an helgan that was only on the psp.
fareedbakhit 5 months ago
i chose helghast as better, there accents kick ass. and they are that bad
18thTryKyle 7 months ago
Has there ever been a war that was totally good vs evil? There are no good guys in reality, just lesser evils.
Nemacyst117 7 months ago
LOL he rly died like a pussy
OcanalBP 7 months ago
"FOR GIVING MY PEOPLE
PRIDE
PURPOSE
WE HELPED BUILD THIS GREAT NATION FROM NOTHING"
somewhatd 7 months ago
goddammit rico.
Shadow78954 7 months ago
@u8boot8comander88 Well i dunno after that nuke on it...But I WANT A HELGAN CAMPAIGN!!!!!!!
bangdobrich 7 months ago
@bangdobrich Who knows. Maybe the Helghast attack Earth with Polar Bears and you get to play as one.
OnlyLifeMatters 4 months ago
Rico wanted to do the "this is sparta" thingy when visrai spoke bout madness
He failed ¬_¬
HMoodRess 7 months ago 7
I'll never understand WHY Rico killed Emperor Visari, and in Killzone 3 faced no repercussion for it whatsoever. The poor man had no way to defend himself and was not making a notion toward fighting them.
Damned ISA, who's the -real- villains?
TPizzle83 7 months ago
I hate Rico.
TheToumec 7 months ago
Kz3 takes place RIGHT after kz2 and kz4 will be right after kz3 so yes the endings are sort of "deadens" but the next game is always hours after the last one. Nakto is the second players character in co-op campaign so he doesn't disappear
GiggityUrSelf 7 months ago
@GiggityUrSelf That means that GG didn't forget about him, and he probably wasn't in the story for a reason.
racingfan312 7 months ago
Its not Madness. THIS IS HELGHAST!!!
MrQualityGuaranteed 7 months ago
Madness??..... THIS IS... uhm...KILLZONE
ShamefulSammy 8 months ago
WAIT FOR IT.. AWAIT FOR IT ... WAIIIIT FOOR IIIIIT...SPOILER ALERT
12goshy 8 months ago
Lol si la cagaste Rico si la cagaste
ZeroJin89 8 months ago
Killzone 1 best.
burakislauw 8 months ago
lol reason why Rico hate the helghast is because his entire team died in klz1 :(
heroside1 8 months ago
I hope Rico will die an embarassing and humiliating death......
boneboy767 8 months ago
BEST. DICTATOR. EVER.
loopofpoop 9 months ago 4
in the opening scene of killzone 2 you see that visari has blue eyes.in this he has brown eyes so its a double in Killzone 3 his daughter notices something's wrong with daddy.he returned to vekta in the end
sdeep001 9 months ago
Killzone 2 was Much better then Killzone 3. Guerrilla Games why did you take out the Good Cinematic Story telling?
mrchief12567 9 months ago
@mrchief12567 and custom games and server browser and well thats it
fuclesh 9 months ago
I HOPE THAT GUERILLA LEARNED LESSON WITH KILLZONE 3. IT WAS A GOOD MOTHERFUCKING GAME,BUT STORY WAS GETTING DUMBER LEVEL BY LEVEL...ENDING IS ALSO WORST PIECE OF SHIT THERE IS...IT'S ENDING IS LIKE THOSE STUPID ENDINGS IN CoD GAMES...
Duke0Forever 9 months ago
You gotta love it how Natko completely disappears in Killzone 3.
FLAMINGBABYPUNCH 9 months ago 43
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH youre Right where the Hell is Shawn Natko? And why is Captain narville one of the Main Persons?? Questions but no Answers
mrchief12567 9 months ago
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH Natko is for the Co-Op the second player does be Natko which was pretty fucking stupid.
TheJAMESGM 9 months ago
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH No he dosnt! - if you play Coop campaign the 2nd player is him!
if you don't play coop then hes now where to be seen
IhabboxTeam 9 months ago
@IhabboxTeam He doesn't appear in any of the cutscenes and thats all what matters.
FLAMINGBABYPUNCH 9 months ago
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH Very true but i think he seems like a gears of war character so im glad hes gone :)
End of the day its all about killzone 4 :)
IhabboxTeam 9 months ago
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH I think that there should have been an explanation. Well, maybe he will somehow return in the next game.
racingfan312 8 months ago
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH i think he returned to earth i guess but u still play him in co-0p
1777power 5 months ago
@1777power (This may be out of content but I guesting what your saying) I think they stayed and unitl the end went up the space elivator to the helgast spacestation and took the ship and nuked the whole planet lol I complepted KZ3
crazyant46 5 months ago
actually Natko is in Killzone 3 co-op as your partner. they even call him by natko.
firer248 4 months ago 2
maybe the lipsync is not that good, but the voice sounds epicly epic
dont ya think so? i mean....their voices match their personalities/ fisical apareace
otaklub 9 months ago
2012 elections: the madness begins
merritt2014 9 months ago
The madness DOES begin.....
JoManarang22 9 months ago
i hate rico
FUNisUnderRated 9 months ago
@FUNisUnderRated lol why
jeffhardy2906 9 months ago
@jeffhardy2906 he killed visari. because of emotions. id under stand if it was a order.
FUNisUnderRated 9 months ago
yeah i played in co-op with a friend but its weird hes not in the real campaign :D
jugglerkkev 9 months ago
rico is tghe biggest prat in the series..i really wish hed die
darthkarr 9 months ago
I don't understand why people are bashing KZ2's story and especially the ending cutscene. I think both are great. Visaris speech in the end is great!
Gaaraape 9 months ago
what happened to natko, why isnt he in killzone 3??? dont understand that
jugglerkkev 10 months ago
@jugglerkkev I think he got killed during the evac, not sure
god33e 10 months ago
@jugglerkkev
You play as Natko if you are player 2 in Co-op mode. Still, I think it's pretty cheap of GG not to include him in the main story.
Gaaraape 9 months ago
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jugglerkkev 9 months ago
When Rico shot... I screamed loud.. F*UK MAAAN NOOO... WHAT U HAVE DONE.. STUPID Ass.. Rico must hang up for killing such God-est Leader Scolar VISARI
Shogohod 10 months ago
rico is the best character in the game just for that!
ajsaccount1991 10 months ago
why are all the bad guys in this British, and why do they all look like Nazis? WE HELPED DEFEAT THEM!!!
SingularNinjular 10 months ago
gaddaffi
TheBighairyfart 10 months ago
@TheBighairyfart No Visari was cool Gaddaffi is lame.
tyranid13 10 months ago
this isnt visari his voice and face is a bit different in my opinion.
Blue2Volf 10 months ago
Why do people think visari is still alive? Because theyre gamers, and as much as I love gamers and games my vast experience with talking and reading gamer comments leads me to believe that the majority of gamers are fucking idiots.
And they need to just kill rico, he's a poor mans Cole in gears and that's saying something considering Cole is one of the worst vg characters in history.
mikepyro713 10 months ago
Madness...THIS IS SPARTA!
JeffHardyRocks3000 10 months ago
so worst end!
MrAaz597 10 months ago
When I first saw this I was like "What the hell Rico you killed the awesome guy." Until I saw Freestyleforcerer's comment.
123190asd 10 months ago
You know, if you look at it in the right way. Visari was TRYING to get Sev or Rico to kill him, then he WOULD be a martyr to the Helghast people.
Martintheauthor 10 months ago
what ever happened to hackha?
UnbeatableAndy 10 months ago
If he was alive, why wasn't he in the helghast ''politic'' room with Orlock and Stahl?
Why does he speak like the true Visari here, including all self-ego lines, etc?
Mulrich14 10 months ago
ISA!!! Helghans have awesome suits though
Ch18dp1 10 months ago
your the bitch i got the beta i palyed it and now i have the GAME PUSSY
chunny101 10 months ago
also the "making vesari a martyr" you can see the ISA propaganda saying "vesari plays a martyr..." and here in the end he tell why the ISA feers so much of making him one, and in killzone 3 we can see that in 6 months helgan makes vekta surrender and plant to hit earth hard... vesari's death was the fuel for the fire
KlifeRR 10 months ago
How can anyone think that Visari is still alive, have none of you played Killzone 3? the whole game is based on the super powers trying to fill the void Visari left, the storyline of the whole game is a power struggle trying to take over Visari's place. The video at the beginning was either a video based slightly before the events leading to his death or that one in KZ3 is the doppelganger, either way the real one is dead
headfirst1987 10 months ago
Rico is an idiot xD
BigUndertaker 11 months ago
Killzone 3 story is weak. As for the ending, it sucked.
spoonmonkey14 11 months ago 27
@spoonmonkey14 so far its awsome man idk why u think its weak
chunny101 10 months ago
@chunny101
The writers never explain how both Sev and Rico got demoted, then promoted back when watching the cutscenes. Its dumb. Orlock is a better villian than Sthal.
spoonmonkey14 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 next to visari, sthal is my second favorite villain in the killzone series because he a cazy son of a bitch lol
LIVELAVALIVEism 10 months ago
@LIVELAVALIVEism
Sthal reminds me of General Shepherd from MW2, similarly, they both betray their own people.
spoonmonkey14 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 it was not weak its just the the ending was bad
sdafdsffdsjkfdfhdjk 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 I agree. K3's story was dissapointing. When I was thrilled by both the K2 story videos and the K3 Story trailer, I thought K3's story would be awesome. But sadly, it isn't. The ending of K3 can be resumed in one phrase: "Wait 2/3 years for the sequel", and it was absolutly stupid.
SMG097Hardcore 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 why did the ending sucks because it told us that there going to be a killzone 4
LIVELAVALIVEism 10 months ago
@LIVELAVALIVEism
come on. sev says "i wonder how many people were down there" and then it ends. oh yeah and then 2 helghast appear and say something to stahll/visari whatever. it was way to abrupt and rushed.
silentsniper125 10 months ago
@silentsniper125 yea but at least we all know their not going to end the series
LIVELAVALIVEism 10 months ago
@LIVELAVALIVEism
i know. i love killzone. killzone 3 was slightly dissapointinf but i still love it and the multiplyer but the maps are'nt great anyway good game, not much of a story but exciting. what i want from k4 is too be its own beast. it seems to take a bit out of cod with the snow levels. the jungle level took it straight out of "All Ghillied Up" from cod4
involve it more with a story and the characters and the war but not just about blowing up aa guns and saving narville.
silentsniper125 10 months ago
@silentsniper125 thats true and i hope they get deeper in helghast culture and history
LIVELAVALIVEism 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 Killzone 3 had a good story. The main problem was the ending, it was abrupt. But how do you top Killzone 2's ending? They were doomed to top that ending no matter what.
MasterTalon 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 i think the story was better than in kiilzone 2, but yes the end sucked. But The ending in kz2 was not so much better.
hafsitafsi 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 SORRY, IM REALY SORRY, but hate your life.
PuKiNAt0R335 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 I dont care if the story was weak cus there was totally more set pieces in Killzone 3 than Killzone 2. so im satisfied lol
luvudarren1 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14
I know, I was expecting more than some massive firefight which were supposed to be levels. And anyway the so called cliffhanger with the guy in the pod could be any of these 3.
1-Narville cos he wasnt in the spaceship fight at the end and he was peeyed of with evreyone
2-Stahl cos its his private army
Visari- cos This was a body double. In the opening cutscene of Killzone 3 his daughter notices something's wrong with daddy.
failofafilmer 10 months ago
@spoonmonkey14 Yeah, KZ3 definetly seemed rushed. I know they had the engine and everything ready to make it but it came out way earlier than I expected.
I also noticed a bunch of crappy plot devices. Like since when did they have "warp drives" and stuff. I know Stahl arm was the weapons manufacturer but really? And I know its cool but the MAWLER was just annoying, it had guns popping out of every inch of it.
vhhsairsoft 9 months ago
Anybody wanna Join my Clan its ISA Covert Ops, my PSN is iStayTaylorD
byrdmann16 11 months ago
The best thing that Guerilla games could have done for KZ3 was to kill Rico.
Benjifritz93 11 months ago
Killzone 4 is coming out the same time as the ps4 comes
4ShotWonder 11 months ago
@karan8624 ya
lisadogbone 11 months ago
funny how 3 bullets killed him, yet in gameplay it takes freaking millions of bullets to kill one soldier!
ItsAMetal 11 months ago
@ItsAMetal yeah, but visari has no armor
The06pascals 11 months ago
Where is the Pyrrhus crater nuclear explosion thing that is in Killzone 3? I thought this would be at the end of KZ2.
deivuuk 11 months ago
Btw natko is supposedly in killzone 3, he's supposed to be in the co-op campaign
BobandJoeFilms 11 months ago
He sits on the steps and the game ends...EPIC!!!!
sebit0nic 11 months ago
in the begin of the game are the graphics awsome and at the end shit
ThePs3maniack 11 months ago
Yeah Visari is still alive. This was a body double. In the opening cutscene of Killzone 3 his daughter notices something's wrong with daddy. Visari returned to Helgan in the end. I think Killzone 4 will be a few years later, when Helghast have rebuild there armies to attack earth and completely destroy Vekta.
Freestyleforcerer 11 months ago 31
Again, this is a simple rumor that hasn't been confirmed in any means.
I believe Visari is dead.
CountAbel 10 months ago
@CountAbel There is enough reason to believe that Visari is still alive.
Freestyleforcerer 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer
even if you are right, i dont thnik they would destroy Vekta, coz its the main reason this war started, coz Vekta was considered a high value Helgan teritory (coz they colonized it 1st).. but with that double you might be right :P
KlifeRR 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer
Wrong.The intro cutscene in KZ 3 took place before the ISA invasion on helghan.You even see Radec and the red dust nuclear bomb that the helghast detonated in KZ 2.The person you see in the escape pod in the KZ 3 ending was Stahl, look at the shadow projected on the helghast.It looks exactly like stahl.not to mention the two helghat there were stahl arm troopers.Visari did die in KZ 2
zeratul1356 10 months ago
@zeratul1356 Wrong. The intro cutscene of Killzone 3 took place right before the ISA launched the attack on Visari's palace. Radeck was still there because you kill him at the end of Killzone 2 obviously. At the end you hear a helghast trooper say 'Sir you have to move, the ISA are here'. If they moved him, the visari that died in KZ2 is obviously a body double. And there's also the fact that his daughter notices that something is wrong with daddy.
Freestyleforcerer 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer
You are correct about the cutscene timing(I looked it up after I posted the comment).But not about visari at the end of KZ 2 being a double.Look at it this way.If the visari at the end of KZ 2 was a double, then why the hell did the helghast go into a civil war for control?Orlock says at the end on the intro" sir you have to move, the isa are here" so then why the hell did he get named autarch?Or why did the helghast do a massive memorial?None of KZ 3 would have happened
zeratul1356 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer
BTW, look at the shadow projected on the two helghast troopers in the KZ 3 cliffhanger.The shadow looks exactly like stahl.Not to mention when stahl says "Fuu Fuuu Fuuuuuuck" he runs out of the camera's veiw obviously for an escape pod.Visari is dead, and just because he was told to move doesnt mean he did.Radec wouldnt have risk his life and tons of his mens life for a double.You theory doesnt make any sense
zeratul1356 10 months ago
@zeratul1356 Well I agree on that part. I think it's very open for speculation, and I really enjoy this discussion. However, there's still the daughter in the intro cutscene who just notices something... wrong. Why does she do that? I mean to me that looks like an obvious hint from guerilla that there's something wrong with Visari, and I think it would kind of make sense...
Freestyleforcerer 10 months ago
@zeratul1356 The reason why Radec risked the lives of all his man is because they are Helghast, it was either fight and die or run like pussy's. Radec, knowing he excecuted 2 of his own in Killzone 2 for uniform violation, would rather die than to run. Also the reason why Killzone 3 happened is because they did not tell all the helghast about Visari still living only the elite force. Telling them to "Kill Visari's assassins" would only motivate them because Visari was so beloved by the Helghast.
Freestyleforcerer 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer
Okay dude, seriously.Stahl, Orlock, the entire senate would know if visari has a double.They would dare not make another man an autarch.helghan wouldnt have went into a civil war.Stahl would not have attacked the helghast fleet with his cruiser if he knew visari was still alive(and he WOULD know).The senate wouldnt be bickering on who to make helghans leaders.Rdec was a proud warrior but not foolish enough to abandon the real visari for a fake one.
zeratul1356 10 months ago
@zeratul1356 The reason they could make another man autarch and Killzone 3's events took place could also just be out of convenience for the plot. But yes, I guess you're kind of right. I rest my case on the Radec part, if he wasn't defending Visari he would still be defending the palace. I'm just very curious who will step out of that cruiser in the sequel, we'll see who's right in the end. :) Cheers!
Freestyleforcerer 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer Lol fuck's sake! I wish I had played and finished Killzone 3 before I read that. Though I must admit, I always did wonder why Visari's eyes were a different colour in this scene from the intro cut-scene :)
AngryLoo 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer Wow, I think your right!
Cipher057 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer Then why did the Helghast who found the escape pod have the Stahl Arms crest?
Iceskaro 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer really because as good a story that is
1: like iceskaro said it had a stahl arms crest.
2: why would he be in space and if so wouldnt he have done something about Stahl attacking orlocks (which were formally visari's own men.
3:Visari is to only one to give such a great speech such as this one was.
4:It was Stahl's men not visari's who greeted STAHL back to earth.
5: last thing is that visari's daughter looked at the camera that showed up not visari.
i think im correct.
wintmint 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer I hope it will be on Ps3 killzone 4 I mean
warlord970 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer No, you're wrong. That whole scene in Killzone 3 was tense because Visari wanted to nuke the city. He is dead and he is not coming back. The guy at the end of Killzone 3 was probably Stahl or the Commodore. Also, most life on Helghan has been irradiated because of Stahl's cruiser. If anything, the next Killzone will feature a new menace, or will be set several centuries later. There is no way the Helghast could rebuild within merely a few years,
GFXer2010 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer Visari is dead how is he alive they didnt show any hints that he is alive
NarutotheSage09 10 months ago 2
@Freestyleforcerer No visari's dead, in the first mission or some where there they clearly say Visari died and the ISA are his killers
flark454 10 months ago
@flark454 You just completely missed the point dude.
Freestyleforcerer 10 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer man fuck the helgast they wanna kil humanity,fuck them all!!!!
Ghostofmetro 9 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer good theory, I always asked myself why his daughter got back from him and why the Helghast said: "welcome sir"... maybe your theory is the right one :D
sharingan180185 9 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer No, it wasn't, because the Killzone 3 opening cutscene with his daughter took place a few minutes before Visari nuked his capital. And that was a few hours before he was killed by Rico.
Fail.
dekuscrubbyfan888 9 months ago
@dekuscrubbyfan888 Please, could you do us all a favor and only respond when you aren't completely retarded? Thank you.
Freestyleforcerer 9 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer What the hell are you talking about?
dekuscrubbyfan888 9 months ago
@dekuscrubbyfan888 You should google what a body-double is and read my origional comment again. Maybe then you will understand what I meant.
Freestyleforcerer 9 months ago
@Freestyleforcerer I hope so ... I sure hope helghan wins >:D
aseticelite 9 months ago
@aseticelite We all do mate, we all do.
Freestyleforcerer 9 months ago
@aseticelite the isa vs helghast was based on the world wars helghast were the nazi's and isa good guys and the nazi's lose so the helghast lose
TheXbadman 9 months ago
@TheXbadman Im not stupid... its pretty fucking obvious what they're based upon, but yet who's worse, the helghast and their expansion or the isa fucking them up for trying it and betraying its fellow soldiers in the process. Besides ww2 wasnt that "good vs evil" just look how much bs the US has right now...
aseticelite 9 months ago 25
@aseticelite : The Helghast are worse. If you read the back story, the cause of the first war (back when they owned Vekta) was from their actions on their people and the UCN. However, they became fascist and started war in revenge (Killzone 1) which caused the invasion of Helghan. Don't forget that Visari used oppression (even execution) and propaganda to control the people; and the Red Dust nuke on his capital.
Kaesoism 8 months ago
@aseticelite : As for WWII, there was a reason the Axis Powers were called the "Axis of Evil". Their tactics were both brutal and ended with thousands being tried for war crimes afterwards. The most famous overly used examples are Hitler's Holocaust, the Japanese's infamous Nanking Massacre of the Chinese.
And I'd love to hear what "BS" you mean the US has right now, so I can show you how it's wrong.
Kaesoism 8 months ago
@Kaesoism That may be true...But do you have any idea of the number of war crimes the US perform in the middle east right now? And all these go untried...Why?..Cuz everybody fears them? Thats the BS hes talking about.
boneboy767 8 months ago
@boneboy767 : Crimes? Like the death of civilians because they are among, and of, the enemy in the warzones, plus the fact that OPFOR has been known to kill them far more/worse than the US forces?
Yes, the US has done bad stuff, but if you compare the number of times and the degree of magnitude, compared to others (and the fact that the US is constantly involved in something; like a "world police"), then you realize that they do a "better" (not the best at times) job then others.
Kaesoism 8 months ago
@Kaesoism Haha death isnt just it...Soldiers go as far as raping innocent civilians in the middle east is you didnt know. "Bad stuff" just about sums up what the US does.
boneboy767 8 months ago
@boneboy767 : A bias against the US is accusing it of genocide, conquest, and other horrific crimes as if it were unique to it; ignoring the Cambodian Genocide, African Tribes selling weaker tribes to European & Muslim slavers, Rape of Nanking, Aztec human sacrifice, Japanese treatment of POWs, Soviet Union's Genocide of its people, Mao Tze Dong's forced labor of his people, Original Chinese Unification, the Islamic Genocide of Polytheists, and the Mongol invasion of Baghdad.
Kaesoism 8 months ago
@boneboy767 : As for your original comment, if you mean the few accounts that have already been dealt with (since the soldiers are then criminals), then yeah... That's so "bad".
Don't forget that those same civilians are raped by their own people just the same.
Kaesoism 8 months ago
@Kaesoism
There is no sense trying to argue with people who will nitpick. People who pick one country to critisize on a situation when almost all if not all countries that existed have done the same (and even worse), are usually biased.
He says U.S soldiers are doing the raping, but seemingly don't think another country's soldier is doing the same. Individual soldier behavior should in no way reflect a country's armed forces or judicial system.
RashawnBlue1 7 months ago
@RashawnBlue1 : Nice comment, both true and sensible. I just can't help but debate about these things :/
Kaesoism 7 months ago
@boneboy767 Fear XDD, it's the billions of fools that feed the corporations that send countries to war so they can benefit from free resources, fearing a country would mean to be afraid of us. People are the power, the western people have to decent of a life to think about problems like people in the east do, they did not face communism or the aftermath of it, total collapse of economies so that western corporations could sell their goods forgetting the peoples needs.
gygyman64 8 months ago
@aseticelite well said, the reason Hitler could do, what he did was because of the aftermath of WWI.
Germany was so poor they we're willing to listen to Hitler.
Soldierlozer 8 months ago
@aseticelite I am glad that I see more that realise this. That war was only for power, and imagine if the "bad guys" had won, unity, every country united, no communism no cold war, maybe even world peace. And think of how the world would have looked today, maybe we would more advanced, with no stupid corporations holding think back.
gygyman64 8 months ago
@aseticelite Yeah, because Japan and Germany weren't carefully nurtured back to health by the USA - I'm sure the non-evil Nazis and Imperial Japanese would have done the same for an occupied England or China, yeah?
TwilightCodex 4 months ago
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@aseticelite Yeah, because Japan and Germany weren't carefully nurtured back to health by the USA - I'm sure the non-evil Nazis and Imperial Japanese would have done the same for an occupied England or China, yeah?
TwilightCodex 4 months ago
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