Fore all of you commenting on the Child of Time connection: Chill. OK Deep Purple borrowed the riff, but they did justice to it and made a beautiful song. Then It' a Beautiful Day borrowed a riff from DP and turned it int Don and Dewey.
Jon Lord "used" this for Child In Time (he was dating the singer at the time), but he gave them a Purple Song which they redid (Wring That Neck, which IaBD did as Don & Dewey).
@minimitchie - yeah, it's true that some convergent / simultaneous development of ideas happens naturally, but these people did a lot of the same drugs, too.
DUDE! I can't believe people keep comparing this to deep purple's child in time! Child in time is very, very different. Just that little intro bit is the same. I see it as total different songs
@iop7535 I think it's more than just a "little intro" that they helped themselves to. I like Deep Purple's Child in Time, but they ripped this one off.
It is said by Ian Gillan to have been inspired by a riff featured in a song by the Psychedelic band It's a Beautiful Day, called "Bombay Calling". It's a Beautiful Day in return borrowed Purple's "Wring That Neck" and turned it into "Don And Dewey" on their second album Marrying Maiden (1970).
It is great that there was a time when FM radio played a variety of all "underground" music, not just what fit the mold. This is one of 3 that was a staple in the St. Louis market.
@newmillenniumbeatnik Check out the tempo....between the chords changes the intro c'mon lol....its the same,not inspired ...it's useless to deny its a complete rip off but i agree ,purple did it a loooot better
gillan said it himself they borrowed from this riff so i dont see whats the big deal. thank god he did otherwise we wudnt have this amazing GEM that is child of time
@BLooDCoMPleX : que te sucede como puedes decir eso de dp es child in time es una obra maestra lo unico que sacaron de esta cancion fue el riff, y no hables por que nunca llegarias a hacer algo asi
the original is by street jazz player Vince Wallace (1962), David LaFlamme first performed it with Orkustra (1967) (a band with Bobby Beausoleil amongst others) and then with It's A Beautiful Day (later releases give credits to Wallace/LaFlamme)...anyway the musical theme was not stolen by Deep Purple by used with permission by LaFlamme...
Deep Purple Publicly admits, then, and now, (and in the original liner notes of IN ROCK) that Child in time was written upon this songs background. There are even some live 1970's DP recordings where they tell the audience to look for IABD records and performances.
deep purple have no problem to give the credit its a beautiful day, so there should be no problem with plagiarism. Many great and popular songs' themes are taken from somewhere else e.g. stairway to heaven, burn.
P.S. It must be there first song i see with no negative votes. Thats cool
I am so glad someone uploaded this; this song has been going through my head for over 30 years. I have the album and no way to play it; thank you so very much. Love you :)
this is a jazz master piece brought over to the house by a great trumpet player (junkie) sweet, he said I just got a call from Bombay and said I could FEEL IT through the phone...he wanted to play it for someone with ears. The Orkustra (pre-cureser to It's a Beautiful Day) broke out their instruments and jammed it with him...cool when the band lives in one house...
It is said by Ian Gillan to have been inspired by a riff featured in a song by the Psychedelic band It's a Beautiful Day, called "Bombay Calling". It's a Beautiful Day in return borrowed Purple's "Wring That Neck" and turned it into "Don And Dewey" on their second album Marrying Maiden (1970).
Of course it's always a delicate matter with the whole stealing/lifting thing, and there are lots of other Purple (and, for that matter, Rainbow) songs which owe a good deal to earlier songs from such different artists as Hendrix, Zeppelin, Eddie Cochran, Little Richard ...
But then there's no musician, especially from that era which was easily the most creative in the history of the 20th century, who didn't borrow or was at least heavily influenced by others. That's how music actually evolves.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious where the inspiration for what is arguable Purple's greatest song came from. If I remember correctly John Lord said once regarding the origins of 'Child in Time' that his girlfriend back then was close to at least one member of It's a Beautiful Day. So that's the connection between these two bands.
I personally count myself lucky to know both songs which despite the unmistakable similarities of melody, composition and even riff advance in totally different directions
@Tokeiihto13 Ha ha, yeah yet another branch added to the Purple Rock Family Tree. It was funny how they stole the riff for Black Night after a few lager shandies. (RG) - That's a good riff your playing Ritchie, let's use that.
(RB) - Nah we can't use that, that's Ricky Nelson's Summertime. (RG) - Well i've never heard of it.......................FUCK IT LET'S DO IT!!!!
@DCHurlford1 If it's any consolation, EVERYBODY back then had a fair share of lifting and borrowing from their predecessors or even contemporaries going on. And although today's musicians are arguable more subtle in their approach, they by no means have abandoned that "tradition".
Properly crediting one's influences has always been an issue (but never of particular importance before the big money was made) but apart from that this "process" actually played an important role in music's evolution.
Many years ago, I hate to admit how many, I played this for a friend pointing out its age and similarity to Child In Time. He looked at the Deep Purple album and was amazed not see credit given to David. I have always assumed they must be friends, and DP got permission. You can argue about the semantics, but by definition this is vagrant plagiarism. It only take like 8 bars to qualify. Which do I like better? What difference does it make?
I was just at the "Child In Time' video explaining how these songs are the same. I was always wondering if there was a common (classical) source. But I think not. Loved these guys. Saw them about 6 times.
Deep Purple were like a hard-rock jazz band. They took bits and phrases from other people, then made them their own through improvisation. They were a little more explicit with their borrowing, but most music (and art, for that matter) resembles something that went before it.
Bob Dylan's borrowed melodies since he started making music and most people accept that he 're-imagines' older material, rather than accuse him of plagiarism.
Deep Purple took the chord structure to this one and made it into their very own "Child In Time" just like Jimmy Page rearranged the intro to "Taurus" by Spirit and turned it into "Stairway To Heaven." There ya go!
but child in time despite the riff is totally different and much better...anyway I love this band...the first two albums are great...better than jefferson airplane in my opinion...
@boo66 David LaFlamme would deny that. He has said that he didn't listen to Deep Purple's music, and had no idea until years later that they had recorded a song that was "inspired" by "Bombay Calling."
That is actually incorrect because It`s a Beautiful Day did not write Bombay Calling, it was written by Vince Wallace in 1962 .... and Purple was inspired to write Child in Time after hearing Bombay Calling played by It`s a Beautiful Day but was not written by them ....
@h0m3al0ne That's right, and it's from an interview with Ian Gillan. Jon Lord played the song, and they wanted to use the "riff" in one of their songs:)
This is a song of their first album "It's A Beautiful Day" released in 1968!! Do you see what I mean? Okay, I prefer Child In Time too, but this is Child In Time's mother!!
my favourite song by IABD. Val Fuentes, the original drummer still with them, is a great, great percussionist well, the entire band is amazing, David on his Viola, telling his stories from when he was starting in the biz as Dan Hicks' violinist. their newest Guitarist, Rob Espinosa wailing away on guitar. I can't wait to see them again, thank you to my mother for introducing me to their music and taking me to concerts. proud to say i'm now friends with Val and Rob, such cool people! (i'm 22)
Would that there more in the vein of IABD. You guys were and are one unique, gifted group and masters of your craft, all of you. Thanx for the contribution to our musical and cultural lives. Powerful impact with carefully refined tools.
Fore all of you commenting on the Child of Time connection: Chill. OK Deep Purple borrowed the riff, but they did justice to it and made a beautiful song. Then It' a Beautiful Day borrowed a riff from DP and turned it int Don and Dewey.
DrBongos 2 days ago
this album came out in the late 60's. Iron maiden at least 5 years later........
d1sailer 2 weeks ago
I loved this album from the time it first came out..This song makes me see Conan the Barbarian in my mind now....crazy I know!!!
ARVINABATT 2 weeks ago
child in time was released a year after this song
beatrixkiddofof 2 weeks ago
This is a long shot, but does anyone else get a feel of Iron Maiden's 'The Trooper' here?
BenjaminBreeg942 1 month ago
@BenjaminBreeg942
could be!! love this
lisdejong 1 week ago
WHOOSH! The memories just spilled in BIG time! Thanks for posting this.
lifecloud2 1 month ago
Yep... Child in Time
Burt472 1 month ago
hehe Lord Stole this song from his ex-girlfriend
ArpeggioBear 1 month ago
Whatever!A great tune don't youall think!!!
MrXxxzzzqqq 1 month ago
Who is Deep Purple? Okay, now I 'wait for the ricochet'...
musicaldun1 1 month ago
deep purple said they were inspired by this song, so it's obvious ;)
XdefinitecodeX 2 months ago 2
Child in Time played by leprechauns at the irish mountains...naturally drinking Guiness below the Moog..
leobrodinho 2 months ago
Jon Lord "used" this for Child In Time (he was dating the singer at the time), but he gave them a Purple Song which they redid (Wring That Neck, which IaBD did as Don & Dewey).
Photoman15 2 months ago
great song
KoenSmit91 2 months ago
You cannot ignore the fact that the beginning and the rhitm that keeps coming back sounds a lot like child in time
minimitchie 2 months ago
@minimitchie - yeah, it's true that some convergent / simultaneous development of ideas happens naturally, but these people did a lot of the same drugs, too.
yakker45 1 month ago
This came first...
J.C.
375GTB 2 months ago
kommatara
1970Tasosd 2 months ago
DUDE! I can't believe people keep comparing this to deep purple's child in time! Child in time is very, very different. Just that little intro bit is the same. I see it as total different songs
iop7535 3 months ago
@iop7535 Just feeding the fire, bud.
slaxor 3 months ago 5
@iop7535 I think it's more than just a "little intro" that they helped themselves to. I like Deep Purple's Child in Time, but they ripped this one off.
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@iop7535:
Dude ! Deep Purple self has confessed they used it !
its exactly the same....
spoondoeman 2 months ago
@iop7535 its no comparences , it is the exact riff that Deep Purple used to make Child in Time ! and that's no shame !
Black Sabbath's , tommi used a lot of Bach melodies , still no shame !
HighlanderWeert 2 months ago
@iop7535 the intro is the riff wich child in time is based on ! do you understand it now?
HighlanderWeert 2 months ago
because of that intro there is the comparing. Very logical i think. But child in time is way better i have to say
harley37davidson 1 month ago
@iop7535 i always thought that the most delicious and perfect part of "Child in Time" is that intro.
emrevebilgic 1 month ago
@iop7535 go to songfacts and look up Child In Time and see why people say that :)
HerLabyrinth 1 month ago
@iop7535 It's similar enough for a lawsuit!
nofortunatesonII 1 month ago in playlist playlist 4
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kritiyas 3 weeks ago
Deep purple version is much better...
Dmdmello 3 months ago
Deep purple have admiited that they were inspired by this tune and went on to make their song Child inTime
lekshminair2k 3 months ago
It is said by Ian Gillan to have been inspired by a riff featured in a song by the Psychedelic band It's a Beautiful Day, called "Bombay Calling". It's a Beautiful Day in return borrowed Purple's "Wring That Neck" and turned it into "Don And Dewey" on their second album Marrying Maiden (1970).
MrCatFetish 3 months ago
I think both this song and Child in Time sound like Journey's 1981 hit Who's Crying Now.
drmjr 4 months ago
@drmjr that would be the other way around!
Tenrash 3 months ago
@Tenrash I actually heard Who's Crying Now before I heard Child in Time or this tune.
drmjr 3 months ago
why compare this to Deep Purple? Deep Purple never had a violin player lol
B360Lightning 5 months ago 2
@B360Lightning Because Ian Gillan was inspired by this song to write Child in time.
6356190 4 months ago
@B360Lightning I agree! hahaha
L2505 3 months ago
This is early progressive rock or what would become progressive rock, very nice
B360Lightning 5 months ago
Everyone should just relax and enjoy the music!
It is great that there was a time when FM radio played a variety of all "underground" music, not just what fit the mold. This is one of 3 that was a staple in the St. Louis market.
newmillenniumbeatnik 5 months ago
@newmillenniumbeatnik Check out the tempo....between the chords changes the intro c'mon lol....its the same,not inspired ...it's useless to deny its a complete rip off but i agree ,purple did it a loooot better
beroth77 3 months ago
except chord progression nothing is the same, song is good, but child in time is the masterpiece
StrangerPage 5 months ago
gillan said it himself they borrowed from this riff so i dont see whats the big deal. thank god he did otherwise we wudnt have this amazing GEM that is child of time
shabanshau 6 months ago
deep purple is so much better
mazamat 6 months ago
pre child in time
iamjustachineseguy 6 months ago
Well, apart from the riff, is not THAT similar.
tonibcnn 6 months ago
This album is great XD
tickedoffnow 6 months ago
I knew DP were too dull to write such a good music.
BLooDCoMPleX 7 months ago
@BLooDCoMPleX : que te sucede como puedes decir eso de dp es child in time es una obra maestra lo unico que sacaron de esta cancion fue el riff, y no hables por que nunca llegarias a hacer algo asi
Axel19681972 6 months ago
@Axel19681972 wut
BLooDCoMPleX 6 months ago
This isn't a cover,Deep Purple was inspired by this song,as the members of DP said. This is the original.
Francefighter 7 months ago
aahhh...such a beautiful auditory caress with fleeting tactual perception
sekhmetraptah 7 months ago
I always hated the plagiaristic way of Deep Purple but the revenge of IaBD with Don and Dewey was amazing lol
misanthropas 8 months ago
the original is by street jazz player Vince Wallace (1962), David LaFlamme first performed it with Orkustra (1967) (a band with Bobby Beausoleil amongst others) and then with It's A Beautiful Day (later releases give credits to Wallace/LaFlamme)...anyway the musical theme was not stolen by Deep Purple by used with permission by LaFlamme...
COGENTCOG 9 months ago
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COGENTCOG 9 months ago
Deep Purple Publicly admits, then, and now, (and in the original liner notes of IN ROCK) that Child in time was written upon this songs background. There are even some live 1970's DP recordings where they tell the audience to look for IABD records and performances.
ifixmixers 9 months ago 2
deep purple have no problem to give the credit its a beautiful day, so there should be no problem with plagiarism. Many great and popular songs' themes are taken from somewhere else e.g. stairway to heaven, burn.
P.S. It must be there first song i see with no negative votes. Thats cool
dim296 9 months ago
@dim296 My jazz saxophone teacher always tells me "good musicians borrow, great musicians steal". If its true for jazz its just as true for rock
samster712 9 months ago 10
@dim296 Stairway wasn't much it was 4 notes picked similary
BleachTW 6 months ago
I am so glad someone uploaded this; this song has been going through my head for over 30 years. I have the album and no way to play it; thank you so very much. Love you :)
JanBrown024 9 months ago
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brianpage100 10 months ago
My loving for Deep Purple decreased by 50 % !
VoooooooDooooooo 10 months ago 2
@VoooooooDooooooo Mine hasn't
metallicaVH 8 months ago
Sweet child in time... :-)
patjepatatje1958 10 months ago 10
Sure, this song may be nice, but "Speed King" was truly It's a Beautiful Day's best song.
Especially that violin shredding at the beginning.
JohnFordDanceTroupe 10 months ago
this is a jazz master piece brought over to the house by a great trumpet player (junkie) sweet, he said I just got a call from Bombay and said I could FEEL IT through the phone...he wanted to play it for someone with ears. The Orkustra (pre-cureser to It's a Beautiful Day) broke out their instruments and jammed it with him...cool when the band lives in one house...
tanglestrangle 11 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Better than that silly Deep Purple song.
brianpage100 11 months ago
@brianpage100 you call your self a man who likes music?
czar902 11 months ago
@czar902 Yes, I also call myself a man who is accepting of other people's opinions.
brianpage100 11 months ago
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brianpage100 11 months ago
sweeeeeeeeeeet my god what a song what a group and what a time. peace baby
and love is still the answer.
leoretrosi 11 months ago
lol the autor posted 666 videos
Timzurita020196 1 year ago
Actually Vince Wallace claims to be the author of the theme, He says he wrote it back in 1962. He also accuses Its a Beautiful Day of plagiarism.
ManuzziMan 1 year ago
It is said by Ian Gillan to have been inspired by a riff featured in a song by the Psychedelic band It's a Beautiful Day, called "Bombay Calling". It's a Beautiful Day in return borrowed Purple's "Wring That Neck" and turned it into "Don And Dewey" on their second album Marrying Maiden (1970).
onehourago 1 year ago
Of course it's always a delicate matter with the whole stealing/lifting thing, and there are lots of other Purple (and, for that matter, Rainbow) songs which owe a good deal to earlier songs from such different artists as Hendrix, Zeppelin, Eddie Cochran, Little Richard ...
But then there's no musician, especially from that era which was easily the most creative in the history of the 20th century, who didn't borrow or was at least heavily influenced by others. That's how music actually evolves.
Tokeiihto13 1 year ago 2
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Tokeiihto13 1 year ago
Yeah, it's pretty obvious where the inspiration for what is arguable Purple's greatest song came from. If I remember correctly John Lord said once regarding the origins of 'Child in Time' that his girlfriend back then was close to at least one member of It's a Beautiful Day. So that's the connection between these two bands.
I personally count myself lucky to know both songs which despite the unmistakable similarities of melody, composition and even riff advance in totally different directions
Tokeiihto13 1 year ago
@Tokeiihto13 Ha ha, yeah yet another branch added to the Purple Rock Family Tree. It was funny how they stole the riff for Black Night after a few lager shandies. (RG) - That's a good riff your playing Ritchie, let's use that.
(RB) - Nah we can't use that, that's Ricky Nelson's Summertime. (RG) - Well i've never heard of it.......................FUCK IT LET'S DO IT!!!!
DCHurlford1 1 year ago
@DCHurlford1 If it's any consolation, EVERYBODY back then had a fair share of lifting and borrowing from their predecessors or even contemporaries going on. And although today's musicians are arguable more subtle in their approach, they by no means have abandoned that "tradition".
Properly crediting one's influences has always been an issue (but never of particular importance before the big money was made) but apart from that this "process" actually played an important role in music's evolution.
Tokeiihto13 1 year ago
@Tokeiihto13 Good points you make there. Had never really thought of it like that before. Cheers.
(David.)
DCHurlford1 1 year ago
Many years ago, I hate to admit how many, I played this for a friend pointing out its age and similarity to Child In Time. He looked at the Deep Purple album and was amazed not see credit given to David. I have always assumed they must be friends, and DP got permission. You can argue about the semantics, but by definition this is vagrant plagiarism. It only take like 8 bars to qualify. Which do I like better? What difference does it make?
thealbumcollector 1 year ago
I was just at the "Child In Time' video explaining how these songs are the same. I was always wondering if there was a common (classical) source. But I think not. Loved these guys. Saw them about 6 times.
triplettam 1 year ago
deep purple stole this
85devotee 1 year ago
Deep Purple were like a hard-rock jazz band. They took bits and phrases from other people, then made them their own through improvisation. They were a little more explicit with their borrowing, but most music (and art, for that matter) resembles something that went before it.
Bob Dylan's borrowed melodies since he started making music and most people accept that he 're-imagines' older material, rather than accuse him of plagiarism.
eddystone333 1 year ago
Deep Purple took the chord structure to this one and made it into their very own "Child In Time" just like Jimmy Page rearranged the intro to "Taurus" by Spirit and turned it into "Stairway To Heaven." There ya go!
MattHatter 1 year ago
just the original tune...
alexkaraliotas2475 1 year ago
just the origenal tune...
alexkaraliotas2475 1 year ago
but child in time despite the riff is totally different and much better...anyway I love this band...the first two albums are great...better than jefferson airplane in my opinion...
nazzare79 1 year ago
Opinion city in here.
slaxor 1 year ago 11
@slaxor aint that all of youtube!! :--0
ravesaver 9 months ago
Though Child In Time is 100 times better...
cdorresteijn 1 year ago 3
@cdorresteijn
well is better for you (and many others ) man but not for me .
personaly I Bombay Calling more
Momcil 1 year ago
These days they would have had Deep Purple in court for plagiarism, but IaBD just copied a DP track on their next album. Gentler times!
boo66 1 year ago 32
@boo66
YEA. :) Back then people Shared. lol Good point.
artzilla 1 year ago 2
@boo66 which song did they copied??? i would like to check it out
xurxo12 8 months ago
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tpeck111 8 months ago
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tpeck111 8 months ago
@xurxo12 "Wring That Neck", a great (I think) instrumental from the album "The Book Of Taliesyn" from 1968.
DeepPurpleOL 7 months ago
@boo66 David LaFlamme would deny that. He has said that he didn't listen to Deep Purple's music, and had no idea until years later that they had recorded a song that was "inspired" by "Bombay Calling."
swordedaffair 7 months ago
@boo66
That is actually incorrect because It`s a Beautiful Day did not write Bombay Calling, it was written by Vince Wallace in 1962 .... and Purple was inspired to write Child in Time after hearing Bombay Calling played by It`s a Beautiful Day but was not written by them ....
Alirkson 6 months ago
@Alirkson Jon Lord is on record as saying they lifted the riff from this
Spudgun65 6 months ago
Deep Purple were inspired by this song. Wikipedia talking. Stop saying stuff if you dont know.
h0m3al0ne 1 year ago
@h0m3al0ne its not about inspiration tard.
Deep purple has already pay in the court many many years after the copy...
giannisxxx 1 year ago
@h0m3al0ne That's right, and it's from an interview with Ian Gillan. Jon Lord played the song, and they wanted to use the "riff" in one of their songs:)
AgurkTomatGulerod 1 year ago
A keystone of that time, I was there , I remember . Thanks so much for every note you hit.
coloradobob1 1 year ago
Man Deep Pur...I mean, It's A Beautiful Day wrote a great song!
nthnclls 1 year ago 2
child in time xDDD
jcast18k 1 year ago 2
@jcast18k - Yeah! This is where they got the riff from though.
syr1811 1 year ago
@syr1811 its awesome, in this song the riff sounds like something happy or good but in child in time its like sad :P
jcast18k 1 year ago 4
This is a song of their first album "It's A Beautiful Day" released in 1968!! Do you see what I mean? Okay, I prefer Child In Time too, but this is Child In Time's mother!!
dafrenchcommunist 1 year ago 58
@dafrenchcommunist
Stelios94Sam 1 year ago
@dafrenchcommunist ...it's not the mother, they stole it, shamelessly. at least it's first part.
mireiification 10 months ago
@dafrenchcommunist
Oui, c'est vrai. Et , rassure-moi: penses-tu vraiment que Marchais a tripé là-dessus?
MegaAndreNo 3 months ago
my favourite song by IABD. Val Fuentes, the original drummer still with them, is a great, great percussionist well, the entire band is amazing, David on his Viola, telling his stories from when he was starting in the biz as Dan Hicks' violinist. their newest Guitarist, Rob Espinosa wailing away on guitar. I can't wait to see them again, thank you to my mother for introducing me to their music and taking me to concerts. proud to say i'm now friends with Val and Rob, such cool people! (i'm 22)
MarissaShadow 1 year ago 2
child in time ;)
LokiJRaatikainen 1 year ago
@LokiJRaatikainen yeah, a rip-off!!!
tammysyl 1 year ago
Would that there more in the vein of IABD. You guys were and are one unique, gifted group and masters of your craft, all of you. Thanx for the contribution to our musical and cultural lives. Powerful impact with carefully refined tools.
romac53 1 year ago 2