As a non-intellectual observer of history, religion and anthropology, I can't help but think that the question of God is irrelivant and there is no meaning in life other than to exist and to what we bring to it. Modern man is the last surviving hominid, with Neanderthals closely related and chimps only 2% different in our DNA. We range from Pygmies to Swedes with a long history of religious beliefs and barbarism with no evidence of Devine exsitence or intervention. Delusional eqotism rules.
@allfitch84 "Science made bombs, guns and yeah computers, laptops, cellphones that i may assume you can't leave without right now. Humans tend to accept what is good for them, it's for their survival for "God's" sake, but if its bad need I say more? I say God gave us the free will and Science is their proof that if you do something stupid there will be consequences.
@tetetmalabanan I'm not sure what side you're on here but I get what you're saying. Actually, I haven't had a cell phone for about 3 years now. It'd be nice to have one, but I manage lol I do like that phrasing at the end though "God gave us free will, but science is the proof that if you do something stupid, there will be consequences." That's pretty clever. God as an intelligent being FORCED this free will on us, it was his will, where as Nature has no bias, it's more an irony of existence.
@Matthewlovesanime That's the irony lol as Hitchens said 'Why do we have free will? Because we don't have any other choice but to have free will." That's what I was getting at with the irony thing. I myself am an atheist, so I don't believe there is any god at all, however, being uncertain, I will not assert that there is not. If I did that, I'd be as bad as the people that assert there is one.
@allfitch84 No offense, but it seems to me you are also claiming the moral high ground game, except instead of God you are using uncertainty.
It is perfectly fine to be wrong, as long as one admit it when proven wrong. If someone show me a God, then I will believe in it. If there are no proof then I dismiss such claim as false, until evidence show it is true. If I hold a claim to be true, but is later proven false, then it is false.
It is a human flaw to be advocates of an eternal truth.
If you don't believe in God, try coming up with a better explanation for the observable universal reality than "before Abraham was, I AM". And if you don't believe in sin, try doing what you think is good all of the time and, see how well you do. Now that you have demonstrated to yourself atheism and agnosticism are dishonest, you can freely admit you are a sinner who needs God's help, just like the rest of us.
Isn't it interesting that someone arrogantly decides to push his beliefs on others, & then gets frustrated when those people won't accept his way of thinking? This vid is to celebrate nice quotes, & this religious troll comes in here to cause trouble. Maybe we should just ignore what the troll says from here on? Debating w/ such a person rots the brain & frankly life is to short. These types will always be with us, reference Jefferson, Franklin, Nietsche & even Jesus himself.
@richardaberdeen Re-read your reply to me. Do you not realize that in ancient times people believed in Zeus, Jupiter, Odin as fervently as you believe in Jesus? People today believe in Allah & Krishna as fervently as those who believe in the Judeo-Xian god. YOUR belief, YOUR testimony means NOTHING to me, it is not evidence, it is not valid. That personal testimony is for YOU, that's it, it doesn't prove anything to anyone else.
@Nordicdeist I believe in Jesus because I have evidence of Jesus working in the reality of my daily life. I find no such evidence for Zeus, Jupiter, Odin or magically appearing universes. Atheists have no concept of believe in God based on evidence, nor do they have any concept of the relationship between science and evidence. The universe is evidence for creation, where is your evidence of magically appearing universes?
@richardaberdeen Again, the same evidence used in ancient times to prove the existence of Zeus, Jupiter, Odin are used to attempt to prove Allah & Xian Trinity. I'm not the one who believes in a "magically appearing universe", you are. Science has hypothesis & theories for the Universe. Just because we don't clearly understand something doesn't mean "god did it". We don't use that excuse for weather phenomenon, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc anymore either.
@UnionGarside What is true remains the same, regardless of what you, more or anyone else says is true. You need to go back to elementary logic school 1-A and start over.
@jmw1500 Einstein: I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. -- Viereck (primary source)
@jmw1500 Einstein: As a child, I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. . . No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. -- Viereck interview 1929
@jmw1500 "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". Charles Darwin; "On The Origin of Species" - final edition, represents a lifetime conclusion
Sorry, I stopped believing in the spaghetti monster, tooth fairy and santa clause a long time ago. Forgive me, but I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist--I can't speak for the rest of us sinners, but it is way too hard for me to believe the universe magically appeared all by itself or, that people are all born good; sorry, just way, way, way too hard, what with 'educated' scientists working for the global war machine and 'educated' bankers bilking the common people Jesus dearly loved
@Ramen86861 In the so-called "dark" ages, people were executed for charging more than 5% interest. Now since the grand age of so-called "enlightenment", often highly educated crooked politicans, bankers and lawyers play the Wall Street game of human oppression, charging 30% and more. And, even more highly 'educated' scientists continue to create ever worse weapons of mass destruction and pollute the future of their own species, Yeah, sure is some 'enlightenment'.
One of my fav quotes is "look, we dont know where all this shit really came from. But id rather trust a bunch of men in labcoats who dont make me get up early on sunday, and overdress then make me apologize for being human.
@xTheuglytruthx Atheists often say "we don't have all the answers yet", we're just claiming there is no Creator. That is like an alien finding a stray computer with nobody around saying, "we don't have all the answers yet", we're just claiming nobody created the computer, only infinitely more superstitious beyond all sanity, logic and reason. Athesim = total baseless bullshit.
@CliftonCarlBarbara There is no such thing as a human being who's not a "sheep". If you are male, it is my guess you wear pants, maybe a tie. probably use deoderant and otherwise, "fit in" with your culture and peers. If female, you likely wear a dress, at least sometimes, use makeup and otherwise fit in. Of course, there is the jewelry, wedding ring, tatoos, etc, all mimicking other humans. Jesus had the misfortune of always being correct about people, which is why atheists don't like him.
@Elena9525 One DUMBASS quote; no such thing as a human being who's not a "sheep". If you are male, it is my guess you wear pants, maybe a tie. probably use deoderant and otherwise, "fit in" with your culture and peers. If female, you likely wear a dress, at least sometimes, use makeup and otherwise fit in. Of course, there is the jewelry, wedding ring, tatoos, etc, all mimicking other humans. Jesus had the misfortune of always being correct about people, which is why atheists don't like him
Ahh Christianity - The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie , who was his own father , can make you live forever , if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood , and tellepathically communicate to him that he is your master , so he remove an evil that exists in mankind because this chick was told by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree. - yah ...... makes perfect sense
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
It is in fact your list, but Christopher Hitchens should have made this list,........excellent wit and clarity..........Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins are also strong contenders.
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
@filipjovanovic1 That's why you see a religious person you just leave them be. Ignorance is bliss and unless they are harming somebody why harm their state of mind.
Excellent! Especially liked the Nietzsche quote, I've been battling people who exemplify this quote in regard to critical thinking on other, nonreligious issues.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep.
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills.
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The reason I say 'what do we do now?' is that whether or not God put us here or we're here from the Universe, we're still here. That doesn't change. And in either case, survival, flourishing & progress is the highest possible calling in which we can take part in. Things like 'good & bad' are subjective to perceptions, like the taste of milk or fries. Now, we define 'good' as the means which increases the chance of survival for all sentient creatures, then we have a real starting point...
@allfitch84 Yeah, and this kind of all flies out the window, along with the rest of the bullshit on this website, when somone sodomizes your child, rapes your wife and murders your grandparents for a few dollars of cheap jewelry. Atheists are so full of shit it totally boggles the mind.
@richardaberdeen How does it fly out the window? People do that & it is horrible, but it would still fall in line with bad or dumb behavior when looking at it from the side of flourishing & surviving as a species. I think that under it all, we all want the same things; freedom, peace, love, etc... but we're not taught that we're all connected, that we're all the same; we all feel pain, feel pleasure, need & desire. When we realize these similarities, we'll be enlightened & things will change.
@richardaberdeen I just hope we're enlightened in that way, before it's too late. The difference between religious & non-religious is that your want salvation after life, we want it in this one. This life is what matters. This is the one we experience choice, experience pain & pleasure, freedom of any kind. We feel in a way that eternal bliss wouldn't allow... that's what makes this life special. Either way, what we think, what we do in this life, if there is another, still matters!
@allfitch84 Of course this life matters. If God didn't care about what we do, there would be no human conscience, no laws, no rules and we would long ago have become extinct. If you don't believe in God, try coming up with a better explanation for the observable universal reality than "before Abraham was, I AM". If you don't believe in sin, try doing what you think is good all of the time and, see how well you do. Atheism and agnosticism are dishonest, to believe in God and sin is honest.
@richardaberdeen What you call 'sin,' I call stupid. I do what I think is good all the time & it has worked out pretty well for me. I treat people with respect, with dignity, with honesty & courtesy. Do I do it 100% of the time, of course not, sometimes my emotions will get the best of me. I have great friends, who are all caring people. You're taking atheism as an assertion, where it is a belief. And if your claim about conscience, laws or rules were true, there would be no animals left...
@richardaberdeen Or perhaps I should say, it's a rejection of a belief. It's kind of both I guess. I don't assert 'there is no god' but rather believe that there is not one, at least not the one that is affiliated with any human religion. Could there be a God type being?.. perhaps. There is nothing dishonest about being honest by saying you don't believe in god, if that's really true. My belief is that I don't believe in a theologian type god. A deistic god, is much more plausible to me...
@richardaberdeen If there is no god, and this is all we have, that's why it matters. if there is a god & we're judged, then it still matters. the only difference is the motivation behind your choices, a prison of fear or freedom of will. If i'm only good because i'm afraid of eternal hell, then maybe i'm not really good & god would know, but if i'm good because i just simply choose to be that way because i want to be, from pure freedom of choice, god will know that too. If there is one...
@allfitch84 Ah, the God has no "right" to judge anybody card that atheists often pull out of their hat. We seem to be okay with human judges putting people in jail for molesting our children, murdering our grandmother and otherwise looting and pillaging, but God, now he has no right to be a judge... Right?
@richardaberdeen I didn't say anything about rights. What I was saying was that if you're good, you're good, period. If there is an absolute, objective good & you think & act in line with that, then you are doing good & any god would know your motives & would know you're good, regardless of your religion or lack thereof. I'm not sure why you're so against what I'm saying... I have yet to claim you're wrong or that I'm right. All I've done is point out another view point.
I'm just gonna say this once & hopefully people get it. The question is always the same... 'Where did anything come from?' It doesn't matter if that is God or the Universe. One just 'being there' doesn't make any sense to the opposing side. If God can 'just exist' then so can the Universe... believers can't have it both ways. I personally think we're asking & have been asking the wrong question. Rather than 'how or why does anything exist?' we should ask, 'what do we do now?'
@allfitch84 According to Jesus, "before Abraham was, I AM". This adequately explains the observable universal reality. Unfortunately for atheists, they can't even explain where their own self-contradicting selves came from, let alone the entire universe. An ETERNAL God does not "come from somewhere. You need to go back to elementary school and start over.
@richardaberdeen So, use that logic of an eternal god & turn it to an eternal existence of anything. If god can be eternal, then why can't something else? You can't use an argument just for your side. Unlike most atheists you encounter, I'm in it for the discussion, not to 'be right.' I do admit I don't know how it all got here & there's nothin wrong with realizing you don't have an answer, but neither does anyone else, that's the point, that's the humility of it, rather than asserting 'i know.'
@allfitch84 That is not correct. The universal reality exists. If there is an Eternal Creator, this explains who and why the universe exists. If there is no Eternal Creator, then there is no rational explanation for anything. Jesus said, "before Abraham was, I AM". Neither Dawkins or a single other atheist has every come up with a better explanation, because nobody is smarter than God. Eternal Creator remains science until proven otherwise, which is how ALL science historically works.
@allfitch84 For example, scientists used to believe that the sun revolves around the earth and later, that there was only one milky way galaxy. Until there is a better explanation for the observable reality than "eternal" creator or creators, this remains "science". Atheists don't play by the rules of science and evidence, otherwise they wouldn't be atheists. There is no evidence for magically appearing universes or, magically appearing anything else. Atheists can't outsmart Jesus, nobody can
@richardaberdeen I get where you're coming from here, because we don't or can't observe something, doesn't mean it's not there. 100% agree. It also doesn't mean that it is there either, so there's that too. Science is a construct in which you learn to understand the natural, physical world/universe. Thinking something is there or not is not science, but subjective perspective. That's exactly what belief or philosophy is & why they are not included as science.. they do lead to theories though.
@richardaberdeen I don't know about others, but I'm not interested in outsmarting anyone, whether that be you, another believe or Jesus. I'm interested in people living a good life & in the liberty of all people. While there is some good to religion, the kind that is used right now throughout the world is more of a prison than anything else. People are brainwashed as children to be arrogant about their beliefs & dismissive, as well as hateful towards anything outside of their circle.....
@richardaberdeen and I'm sure there are atheists that do the same thing & i'm against that too. Religion scares me; it scares me because it's self-interested & self-asserting. The way that it's used, it blocks free thinking & relies on faith in your faith, & that there are people here that know what god wants. It's powerful & dangerous. "Science can help you build a bomb, but only faith will make someone use it." The faith that they're right, the faith that they're doing god's work, either way.
My favorite quote of all times: "No matter in what you believe here on earth or what questions bother you, but there - whatever the place it would be you will find answers. The real question will be is what's the benefit of your knowledge?"
So my advice to everyone who's religious, humagious and athegious is to shut up and you will find out for yourself. Trust me it will be soon, because your life isn't that long! Good luck and remember you can't blow your only single try.
@richardaberdeen Wow, YOU need evidence. How about you open a science book or watch Stephen Hawking? Science dosen't have all the answers, but I guarantee it has more evidence than Christianity. Oh, and BTW, the bible isn't evidence, it's just a book saying it is evidence
@mrquinnie429 Atheist: "I don't have all the answers, but I know nobody created the universe". Visiter to earth from Mars on finding a computer buried in the desert where nobody is around: "I know nobody created this computer, I just don't have all the answers". Yeah, that really makes sense. Atheism = greater superstition than all other superstitions combined.
@jmw1500 Atheists are mean because they are sinners who need God's help, just like the rest of us. You should be careful who you call stupid, your Freudian slip is showing. According to modern behavioral science, agreeing precisely with Jesus and Paul, what causes greed, hatred, prejudice, stress, tension, murder, rape, theft, false witness, slavery, war and other human oppression arises from within us all (source; Britannica; "Human Sexuality" & related).
@richardaberdeen What? I'm an atheist & you'd be hard pressed to find someone that would call me 'mean' by any stretch. And of course all of those things arise within us, it's the only place that it can... same with generosity, kindness, love, acceptance, peace, & charity. Everything comes from our thoughts... you can't do anything without it first being a thought. It doesn't take Jesus to tell you that, just some observation.
@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
Definition of Obvious Liar: Pretending there is no God or, pretending anything else that is not based on any evidence. Atheism = greatest and most baseless of all known human superstitions. If there is no God, then no one designed the human brain and thus, my computer, my house and every building in the city I live in designed itself. It isn't being fair to the superstitious, to compare them with atheists, who remain the most naive and superstitious of all beings in the universe and beyond.
@richardaberdeen what a troll, seriously! its obvious either you are a troll or you just simply dont understand anything! Atheist = I DONT BELIEVE YOU! period !..now, how does that qualifies as liyng? u say there is a god! you make the claim, i say: i dont believe you! show me evidence, is too hard to grasp? my intention here is not to provoque nor deconvert anyone! but please stop being dishonest! some of us really care wheather our beliefs are true!..
@stress4rmbk No, you've got that backwards. This is an atheist forum and, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. If you came onto a forum of my invention, then it would be correct for you to say you don't believe me. If you want me to believe in your extreme narrow-minded bullshit of atheism, then I REQUIRE EVIDENCE. If you are going to pretend the universe magically exists without any brains behing it, then I REQUIRE EVIDENCE. Otherwise, I'm going to continue to call you a fraud, which you obviously are.
@richardaberdeen HOW DISHONEST!! atheist is just a label for people who hapenned to reject the claims or the concept of god or gods! due to the lack of evidence! you just commited a logical fallacy and shifted the argument! atheism deals with one question whether there is a god or whether not! now reguarding the universe appearing magically lol..what a douche! serious! u have no idea on what the big bang theory is or you just playing stupid/ either or! you are a waste of time, LAME! ps: fuck of
@stress4rmbk HOW DISHONEST??? What is dishonest is to pretend that nobody created the universe, yet have no rational explanation for how otherwise it happens to exists. Atheists are far more dishones than all of the liars and crooks on Wall Street who may be totally crooked but otherwise, are not atheists.
@stress4rmbk No, atheism rejects the obvious, that the universe requires a creator. If you are going to pretend the universe magically appeared all by itself, then you are required to provide evidence, just as if I stood up at Oxford University beside some lying ass named Dawkins and claimed the spaghetti monster exists, it would be up to me to provide evidence. Nobody needs to provide any more evidence that somebody created the universe, the universe itself is the evidence.
@richardaberdeen CONGRATS! For making yourself a complete douchebag!!! You have won the first prize for "Complete narrow-minded asshole"........................fuck off mister.
@jmw1500 This bounces off rather easily, coming from someone who believes the universe magically appeared all by itself. Sorry, I stopped believing in the spaghetti monster, tooth fairy and santa clause a long time ago. Forgive me, but I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist--I can't speak for the rest of us sinners, but it is way too hard for me to believe the universe magically appeared; just way, way, way too hard.
@AberdeenFTM where did that come from? Atheism is by definition "not god". It does not in anyway mean belief. It is a definition that requires belief to exist. Atheists do not identify themselves as atheists. Other religions make that distinction. I don't know what made you so angry at people that choose there life based on proof. It is free thinking and choosing not to fill in the blanks so they can feel safe and secure.
@jmw1500 God, by definition, is the creator of the universe. If atheism is by definition, "not God", then atheism by definition, is the most superstitious nonsense ever invented. There is no evidence the universe magically appeared all by itself. You're just making a circular argument which belongs nowhere remotely in the realm of sanity, logic and/or reason.
@AberdeenFTM lets cut your argument into parts. "coming from someone who believes the universe magically appeared all by itself." I didn't say I did and you shouldn't assume I do if you want me to take you seriously. "Sorry, I stopped believing in the spaghetti monster, tooth fairy and santa clause a long time ago." There is no need to apologize to me. You act like expect you to believe in folklore.
@jmw1500 ALL atheists and agnostics believe the universe either did or could have magically appeared all by itself. Otherwise, they would not be atheists and agnostics. You need to go back to elementary logic school or better yet, elementary school period and, start over.
@AberdeenFTM "Forgive me, but I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist" My previous post clearly states atheism is not a religion and does not require faith. Look it up if you don't believe me. "I can't speak for the rest of us sinners, but it is way too hard for me to believe the universe magically appeared; just way, way, way too hard." It is called the big bang THEORY. It is not hard to believe for somebody that is good at math, and is not a requirement to be an atheist.
@jmw1500 Sorry, no honest person would buy your ciruclar argument bullshit. Either you believe somebody did or did not create the universe. Either way, it is a claim of what you believe. An obvious liar is an obvious liar and, you remain an obvious liar.
@richardaberdeen It is not circular it is linear. Did you get lost along the way? Do I need to pull up a link to a dictionary so you can look up liar and atheist. Do not waste my time without the attention span to at least make a decent retort.
@jmw1500 Britannica: "atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often seeks to demonstrate its existence. Atheism is also distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open the question whether there is a god or not, professing to find the questions unanswered or unanswerable." -- Atheism claims no one created the universe=superstitious nonsense.
@richardaberdeen "Atheism claims no one created the universe=superstitious nonsense."
On what grounds?
It will be a great day when the origin of the universe actually is found. Just like evolution and the earth being round I will be glad when the facts become obvious enough that even a person like you will have to shut up. If you are right when that day comes then i will gladly shut up myself.
Until then deal with the fact that this whole argument is based on speculation and nobody will win it.
@jmw1500 If you deny God, then you deny that someone created the universe, because God by definition, is the Creator of the universe. Atheists would have us here in the realm of science, reason and sanity believe that the universe magically appeared all by itself, rather than somebody created it. Sorry, but I don't believe in bullshit that has no evidence or any hope of evidence to back it up.
@jmw1500 Britannica: "atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often seeks to demonstrate its existence. Atheism is also distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open the question whether there is a god or not, professing to find the questions unanswered or unanswerable." PRETENDING I'M NOT AS EDUCATED AS YOU DOESN'T MAKE YOU LOOK ANY BETTER
This is the way atheist reasons:::::Even though i am a simple mortal.Even though i'm a mere mortal,like dogs both we have to bend down just so we can take a crap.And i'm arrogant enough to deny the existence of God.A'm i stupid or what?
@TOLTECAAZTECA No, an atheist reasons that, since god cannot be proven by science, and that most of the claims in the Bible have been proven false by science, there is no god.
@TOLTECAAZTECA You are full of God's love I see... friendly reminder, video tittle: Top 10 Atheist Quotes. You antered here, no one forced you to do so, you started blahblahblahing and when people respond you don't like it or something so you call us assholes... what did you expect? that oh brother we saw the light thanks to you amen or something like that? in an atheist video? speaking of the smallest of brains... now please, reply with some pathetically predictable reply XD
@HimesInu Bullshit. Apparently you have never actually read the Bible. The Bible says a great many things that were untirely unknown to science until the last half of the 20th Century forward. You can read about them in my online book, under my name and a dot and a com.
@TOLTECAAZTECA that's true people are stupid. There are basically no exceptions to that rule. The bible however is made of several parts that do not relate to each other. You can follow Albert Einstein and just believe what has not been proven false, but now in 2012 that is almost impossible to do with anything above a person with an undergraduate degree level of reasoning. English might not be your first language but if or when you respond try not to sound like an illiterate religious nut.
@jmw1500 Einstein: As a child, I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. . . No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. -- Viereck interview 1929
@jmw1500 Einstein: I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. -Viereck (primary source)
I love the Ben Franklin quote. Except i know for a fact he was no Atheist..this quote was kinda taken out of context. He was a Deist. So he was really against organized bullshit dogma religions but he still believed in a creator, or an "Architect".
@skatenfilm66 Franklin was neither an atheist or a deist. Franklin had his own personal religion, which one can easily find by researching on Google. Franklin, like all of the American founders, believed in a God who inter-acts with the affairs of human beings and as such, none of them were deists by modern definition. Only one, Paine claimed to be a deist and, he was also not a deist by modern definition. You need to study more and open mouth, insert foot a little less.
I'm just starting to regret to have bought this damn thing.. Anyway---- thats a bit of a relative reality, is it not? Hope I made my point. Thanks for reading, and sorry for my damn iPad.
PS: I hate my iPad.... Oh well, back to my comment---- (although observations can be completely decieveing). I can't say I'm more or less real than god, but I can base my conclusion on the fact that I can also say that the iPad on wich I'm typing is not real whenever nobody is not noticing it. A theist may decide to believe with no evidence or facts whatsoever... Thats a bit of a relativa r
As you get to choose exactly what you want to believe, atheists also get to do that. The difference is when we decide to consider on what your beliefs are based on. Atheism is based on more racional beliefs and even observations(although observations can be co
@kamikasedude Whether we believe the shape of the earth is spherical, a square or triangluar in shape, in no way, shape or form changes the shape of the earth. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. What we believe about God in no way changes anything about God, just like what we believe about the shape of the earth, in no way changes the shape of the earth. You need to go back to elementary school and start over.
@rexplosi0n Yes, not arguing, but where is the proof for this supposed conversion? There is none, even his wife who survived him, Emma, who was DEVOUTLY Christian and as many people know, this caused great strains on their relationship, denied Charles did so. So, where is the proof? None, just like Religion. What a coincidence.
@tmc359 "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". -- Charles Darwin; "On the Origin of Species", final edition, thus representing a lifetime conclusion. Atheists have a very hard time with historical reality and reality in general. There is no evidence for magically appearing universes; Darwin said 2 years before death, "I have never been an atheist"-no honest human being is an atheist
@rexplosi0n "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". -- Charles Darwin; "On the Origin of Species", final edition, thus representing a lifetime conclusion. Atheists have a very hard time with historical reality and reality in general. There is no evidence for magically appearing universes; Darwin said 2 years before death, "I have never been an atheist"-no honest human being is an atheist
You completely misunderstood what Grant was saying! He did not think religion a disease in need of quarantine, and therefore held in the private sector. All he was trying to say was that the state should not influence the religion of the people, that the people should forever be entitled to choose their religion. Not that ones religious convictions should not influence the state, but that the state should not influence ones religious convictions. "Keep the church and the state forever separated"
Fellow Atheists, Skeptics, Humanists, please consider joining Folding@Home (app running on computer whose goal is "to understand protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases"). The group Atheists, Skeptics, & Humanists - ASH Folding (#182116) would love to have you.
“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” -Steven Weinberg
@Luto1212 That all depends if you believe scientists are good people or bad people. There are a whole lot of scientists who have created weapons of war. Some of them even have very big historical names, like Leonardo DaVinci, for example. You need to study human behavorial science, compare it to the words of Jesus and, stop pretending you are smarter than Jesus, who knew long ago what modern behavorial science only recently supposedly 'discovered' (source; Britannica).
@richardaberdeen As for example, according to Jesus, what causes human oppression arises from within us all, which is exactly what modern science believes (source; Britannica, "human sexuality" and related).
have you ever asked your selfwho created gravity if the big bang theory is so true?
or maybe this whocreats love or who makes you be passioned on what you belive hmmm to all of you atheist people i got a huge last qouestion who was powerful and perfect enough to make your body so perfect? with so much details and ways of thinking who created that brain of yours did you ever think this way i am curious/ i would like to know if one of you have an answer?
@wackojacko2222 "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". --Charles Darwin, "On The Origin of Species", final edition, thus represents a lifetime conclusion. Darwin also wrote two years before he died, "I have never been an atheist". If you want someone to defend your superstitious nonsense of magically appearing universe, you need to fish in someone else's pond and leave Darwin alone.
"Ahh Christianity - The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father, can make you live forever, if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood , and tellepathically communicate to him that he is your master, so he remove an evil that exists in mankind because this chick was told by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree."
Go ahead and believe. I would suggest more english classes and taking a nonacademic route in life though. =)
"Ahh Christianity - The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father, can make you live forever, if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood , and tellepathically communicate to him that he is your master, so he remove an evil that exists in mankind because this chick was told by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree."
Go ahead and believe. I would suggest more english classes and taking a nonacademic route in life though. =)
@gbrlhppr Carl Sagan is dead, which is the eventual lot of every man. So, who cares what Carl Sagan said? Who is Carl Sagan, that he would or could possibly know there is no God. Carl Sagan, of all people, should have known the sky is way to big and the earth is way to small, for any man to pretend there is no God. How would he know? Atheists = greatest of all known liars.
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Re 1:28 is a false dilemma and no theodicy is needed for the monergist, who understands the proper definitions and designations of both good and evil. There is none born righteous. No, not one.
RE: 1:13 Stephen doesn't understand why I dismiss all other possible gods. Only one carries the attributes of omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence. Every other god falls short in at least one of these, even many gods claiming to be "Christian." Thus, Stephen assumes a false "why" and attributes it to me.
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Angryatheistdotnet: [wouldn't you agree with that?]
They might claim it, though this would only be so in name only; yet not so when put to the test. For example, some so-called Christian faiths believe that God can't guarantee who's saved and who isn't until that person dies. Thus, not truly omniscient. But for the Monergist, this isn't the problem.
@angryatheistdotnet I don't agree. After the theology is analyzed, you will find flaws in nearly all other religions where their gods fall short in at least one of these 3 attributes (see examples below). Thus, Stephen does not understand why I dismiss all other possible "gods," and rashly presumes to speak for me. =)
@angryatheistdotnet "But most followers of other religions would say their god was "omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence" wouldn't you agree with that?"
That would certainly be true of the three Abrahamic religions. The others, not so much.
a cage looking for a bird ?
nedbless 1 day ago
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As a non-intellectual observer of history, religion and anthropology, I can't help but think that the question of God is irrelivant and there is no meaning in life other than to exist and to what we bring to it. Modern man is the last surviving hominid, with Neanderthals closely related and chimps only 2% different in our DNA. We range from Pygmies to Swedes with a long history of religious beliefs and barbarism with no evidence of Devine exsitence or intervention. Delusional eqotism rules.
nobuddyrich 1 week ago
"Science can help build a bomb, but only faith will make someone use it." - ME -
allfitch84 1 month ago
@allfitch84 "Science made bombs, guns and yeah computers, laptops, cellphones that i may assume you can't leave without right now. Humans tend to accept what is good for them, it's for their survival for "God's" sake, but if its bad need I say more? I say God gave us the free will and Science is their proof that if you do something stupid there will be consequences.
tetetmalabanan 1 month ago
@tetetmalabanan I'm not sure what side you're on here but I get what you're saying. Actually, I haven't had a cell phone for about 3 years now. It'd be nice to have one, but I manage lol I do like that phrasing at the end though "God gave us free will, but science is the proof that if you do something stupid, there will be consequences." That's pretty clever. God as an intelligent being FORCED this free will on us, it was his will, where as Nature has no bias, it's more an irony of existence.
allfitch84 1 month ago
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No, people have always had free will it's nothing to do with any god or gods. @angryatheistdotnet great video
Matthewlovesanime 1 month ago
@Matthewlovesanime That's the irony lol as Hitchens said 'Why do we have free will? Because we don't have any other choice but to have free will." That's what I was getting at with the irony thing. I myself am an atheist, so I don't believe there is any god at all, however, being uncertain, I will not assert that there is not. If I did that, I'd be as bad as the people that assert there is one.
allfitch84 1 month ago
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Dude I'm also atheist
Matthewlovesanime 1 month ago
@Matthewlovesanime then what are talking about right now? haha
allfitch84 1 month ago
@allfitch84 No offense, but it seems to me you are also claiming the moral high ground game, except instead of God you are using uncertainty.
It is perfectly fine to be wrong, as long as one admit it when proven wrong. If someone show me a God, then I will believe in it. If there are no proof then I dismiss such claim as false, until evidence show it is true. If I hold a claim to be true, but is later proven false, then it is false.
It is a human flaw to be advocates of an eternal truth.
Neosaigo 1 week ago
@Neosaigo claiming it over who? over the god of the bible, certainly...
I completely agree with the second part of your comment.
allfitch84 1 week ago
If you don't believe in God, try coming up with a better explanation for the observable universal reality than "before Abraham was, I AM". And if you don't believe in sin, try doing what you think is good all of the time and, see how well you do. Now that you have demonstrated to yourself atheism and agnosticism are dishonest, you can freely admit you are a sinner who needs God's help, just like the rest of us.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
Isn't it interesting that someone arrogantly decides to push his beliefs on others, & then gets frustrated when those people won't accept his way of thinking? This vid is to celebrate nice quotes, & this religious troll comes in here to cause trouble. Maybe we should just ignore what the troll says from here on? Debating w/ such a person rots the brain & frankly life is to short. These types will always be with us, reference Jefferson, Franklin, Nietsche & even Jesus himself.
Nordicdeist 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen Re-read your reply to me. Do you not realize that in ancient times people believed in Zeus, Jupiter, Odin as fervently as you believe in Jesus? People today believe in Allah & Krishna as fervently as those who believe in the Judeo-Xian god. YOUR belief, YOUR testimony means NOTHING to me, it is not evidence, it is not valid. That personal testimony is for YOU, that's it, it doesn't prove anything to anyone else.
Nordicdeist 1 month ago
@Nordicdeist I believe in Jesus because I have evidence of Jesus working in the reality of my daily life. I find no such evidence for Zeus, Jupiter, Odin or magically appearing universes. Atheists have no concept of believe in God based on evidence, nor do they have any concept of the relationship between science and evidence. The universe is evidence for creation, where is your evidence of magically appearing universes?
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen Again, the same evidence used in ancient times to prove the existence of Zeus, Jupiter, Odin are used to attempt to prove Allah & Xian Trinity. I'm not the one who believes in a "magically appearing universe", you are. Science has hypothesis & theories for the Universe. Just because we don't clearly understand something doesn't mean "god did it". We don't use that excuse for weather phenomenon, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc anymore either.
Nordicdeist 1 month ago
This comment is the absolute truth, it says so in this comment.
UnionGarside 1 month ago
@UnionGarside What is true remains the same, regardless of what you, more or anyone else says is true. You need to go back to elementary logic school 1-A and start over.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen It's a joke, calm yourself.
UnionGarside 1 month ago
@jdmx3 I like it. It is the same stance as Albert Einstein.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 Einstein: I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. -- Viereck (primary source)
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@jmw1500 Einstein: As a child, I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. . . No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. -- Viereck interview 1929
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@jmw1500 "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". Charles Darwin; "On The Origin of Species" - final edition, represents a lifetime conclusion
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
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Sorry, I stopped believing in the spaghetti monster, tooth fairy and santa clause a long time ago. Forgive me, but I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist--I can't speak for the rest of us sinners, but it is way too hard for me to believe the universe magically appeared all by itself or, that people are all born good; sorry, just way, way, way too hard, what with 'educated' scientists working for the global war machine and 'educated' bankers bilking the common people Jesus dearly loved
AberdeenFTM 1 month ago
Just think of how advanced we would be in terms of science and tech if not for the Dark Ages
Ramen86861 1 month ago 2
@Ramen86861 In the so-called "dark" ages, people were executed for charging more than 5% interest. Now since the grand age of so-called "enlightenment", often highly educated crooked politicans, bankers and lawyers play the Wall Street game of human oppression, charging 30% and more. And, even more highly 'educated' scientists continue to create ever worse weapons of mass destruction and pollute the future of their own species, Yeah, sure is some 'enlightenment'.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
One of my fav quotes is "look, we dont know where all this shit really came from. But id rather trust a bunch of men in labcoats who dont make me get up early on sunday, and overdress then make me apologize for being human.
Priceless!!
xTheuglytruthx 1 month ago
@xTheuglytruthx Atheists often say "we don't have all the answers yet", we're just claiming there is no Creator. That is like an alien finding a stray computer with nobody around saying, "we don't have all the answers yet", we're just claiming nobody created the computer, only infinitely more superstitious beyond all sanity, logic and reason. Athesim = total baseless bullshit.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen Aye, I hear ya.
xTheuglytruthx 1 month ago
Speculation, void of any evidence, equals zero on a scale of probability.
2Jax 2 months ago
"if god made us in his own image, we have returned him the favour" Voltaire
Anton6871 2 months ago
Only sheep need a shepherd
CliftonCarlBarbara 2 months ago
@CliftonCarlBarbara There is no such thing as a human being who's not a "sheep". If you are male, it is my guess you wear pants, maybe a tie. probably use deoderant and otherwise, "fit in" with your culture and peers. If female, you likely wear a dress, at least sometimes, use makeup and otherwise fit in. Of course, there is the jewelry, wedding ring, tatoos, etc, all mimicking other humans. Jesus had the misfortune of always being correct about people, which is why atheists don't like him.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
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@richardaberdeen but still, Only sheep need a shepherd
CliftonCarlBarbara 1 month ago
"Only sheep need a shepherd."
-That- is one badass quote. ;)
Elena9525 2 months ago
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@Elena9525 One DUMBASS quote; no such thing as a human being who's not a "sheep". If you are male, it is my guess you wear pants, maybe a tie. probably use deoderant and otherwise, "fit in" with your culture and peers. If female, you likely wear a dress, at least sometimes, use makeup and otherwise fit in. Of course, there is the jewelry, wedding ring, tatoos, etc, all mimicking other humans. Jesus had the misfortune of always being correct about people, which is why atheists don't like him
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
Ahh Christianity - The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie , who was his own father , can make you live forever , if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood , and tellepathically communicate to him that he is your master , so he remove an evil that exists in mankind because this chick was told by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree. - yah ...... makes perfect sense
rawdog42 2 months ago
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Hey you forgot this quote:
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
-Karl Marx
filipjovanovic1 2 months ago
i like it I
TomekHujek631 2 months ago
thank you for the vid
yosef59 2 months ago
Religion lies within the gaps of science
LOGICandREAS0N 3 months ago
@LOGICandREAS0N that and string theory. =)
jmw1500 1 month ago
Thanks for posting.
It is in fact your list, but Christopher Hitchens should have made this list,........excellent wit and clarity..........Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins are also strong contenders.
AutoBahnForever 3 months ago
My favorite qoute: "Rather a great ape than a sheep." Don't know who said it though.
18booma 3 months ago
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@18booma I know a better one
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
-Karl Marx
filipjovanovic1 2 months ago
@filipjovanovic1 That's why you see a religious person you just leave them be. Ignorance is bliss and unless they are harming somebody why harm their state of mind.
jmw1500 1 month ago
Excellent! Especially liked the Nietzsche quote, I've been battling people who exemplify this quote in regard to critical thinking on other, nonreligious issues.
drstrangelove09 3 months ago
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Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep.
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills.
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akeello 3 months ago
Awesome Video man
cometLord62 4 months ago
The reason I say 'what do we do now?' is that whether or not God put us here or we're here from the Universe, we're still here. That doesn't change. And in either case, survival, flourishing & progress is the highest possible calling in which we can take part in. Things like 'good & bad' are subjective to perceptions, like the taste of milk or fries. Now, we define 'good' as the means which increases the chance of survival for all sentient creatures, then we have a real starting point...
allfitch84 5 months ago
@allfitch84 Yeah, and this kind of all flies out the window, along with the rest of the bullshit on this website, when somone sodomizes your child, rapes your wife and murders your grandparents for a few dollars of cheap jewelry. Atheists are so full of shit it totally boggles the mind.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen How does it fly out the window? People do that & it is horrible, but it would still fall in line with bad or dumb behavior when looking at it from the side of flourishing & surviving as a species. I think that under it all, we all want the same things; freedom, peace, love, etc... but we're not taught that we're all connected, that we're all the same; we all feel pain, feel pleasure, need & desire. When we realize these similarities, we'll be enlightened & things will change.
allfitch84 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen I just hope we're enlightened in that way, before it's too late. The difference between religious & non-religious is that your want salvation after life, we want it in this one. This life is what matters. This is the one we experience choice, experience pain & pleasure, freedom of any kind. We feel in a way that eternal bliss wouldn't allow... that's what makes this life special. Either way, what we think, what we do in this life, if there is another, still matters!
allfitch84 1 month ago
@allfitch84 Of course this life matters. If God didn't care about what we do, there would be no human conscience, no laws, no rules and we would long ago have become extinct. If you don't believe in God, try coming up with a better explanation for the observable universal reality than "before Abraham was, I AM". If you don't believe in sin, try doing what you think is good all of the time and, see how well you do. Atheism and agnosticism are dishonest, to believe in God and sin is honest.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen What you call 'sin,' I call stupid. I do what I think is good all the time & it has worked out pretty well for me. I treat people with respect, with dignity, with honesty & courtesy. Do I do it 100% of the time, of course not, sometimes my emotions will get the best of me. I have great friends, who are all caring people. You're taking atheism as an assertion, where it is a belief. And if your claim about conscience, laws or rules were true, there would be no animals left...
allfitch84 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen Or perhaps I should say, it's a rejection of a belief. It's kind of both I guess. I don't assert 'there is no god' but rather believe that there is not one, at least not the one that is affiliated with any human religion. Could there be a God type being?.. perhaps. There is nothing dishonest about being honest by saying you don't believe in god, if that's really true. My belief is that I don't believe in a theologian type god. A deistic god, is much more plausible to me...
allfitch84 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen If there is no god, and this is all we have, that's why it matters. if there is a god & we're judged, then it still matters. the only difference is the motivation behind your choices, a prison of fear or freedom of will. If i'm only good because i'm afraid of eternal hell, then maybe i'm not really good & god would know, but if i'm good because i just simply choose to be that way because i want to be, from pure freedom of choice, god will know that too. If there is one...
allfitch84 1 month ago
@allfitch84 Ah, the God has no "right" to judge anybody card that atheists often pull out of their hat. We seem to be okay with human judges putting people in jail for molesting our children, murdering our grandmother and otherwise looting and pillaging, but God, now he has no right to be a judge... Right?
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen I didn't say anything about rights. What I was saying was that if you're good, you're good, period. If there is an absolute, objective good & you think & act in line with that, then you are doing good & any god would know your motives & would know you're good, regardless of your religion or lack thereof. I'm not sure why you're so against what I'm saying... I have yet to claim you're wrong or that I'm right. All I've done is point out another view point.
allfitch84 1 month ago
I'm just gonna say this once & hopefully people get it. The question is always the same... 'Where did anything come from?' It doesn't matter if that is God or the Universe. One just 'being there' doesn't make any sense to the opposing side. If God can 'just exist' then so can the Universe... believers can't have it both ways. I personally think we're asking & have been asking the wrong question. Rather than 'how or why does anything exist?' we should ask, 'what do we do now?'
allfitch84 5 months ago
@allfitch84 According to Jesus, "before Abraham was, I AM". This adequately explains the observable universal reality. Unfortunately for atheists, they can't even explain where their own self-contradicting selves came from, let alone the entire universe. An ETERNAL God does not "come from somewhere. You need to go back to elementary school and start over.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen So, use that logic of an eternal god & turn it to an eternal existence of anything. If god can be eternal, then why can't something else? You can't use an argument just for your side. Unlike most atheists you encounter, I'm in it for the discussion, not to 'be right.' I do admit I don't know how it all got here & there's nothin wrong with realizing you don't have an answer, but neither does anyone else, that's the point, that's the humility of it, rather than asserting 'i know.'
allfitch84 1 month ago
@allfitch84 That is not correct. The universal reality exists. If there is an Eternal Creator, this explains who and why the universe exists. If there is no Eternal Creator, then there is no rational explanation for anything. Jesus said, "before Abraham was, I AM". Neither Dawkins or a single other atheist has every come up with a better explanation, because nobody is smarter than God. Eternal Creator remains science until proven otherwise, which is how ALL science historically works.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@allfitch84 For example, scientists used to believe that the sun revolves around the earth and later, that there was only one milky way galaxy. Until there is a better explanation for the observable reality than "eternal" creator or creators, this remains "science". Atheists don't play by the rules of science and evidence, otherwise they wouldn't be atheists. There is no evidence for magically appearing universes or, magically appearing anything else. Atheists can't outsmart Jesus, nobody can
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen I get where you're coming from here, because we don't or can't observe something, doesn't mean it's not there. 100% agree. It also doesn't mean that it is there either, so there's that too. Science is a construct in which you learn to understand the natural, physical world/universe. Thinking something is there or not is not science, but subjective perspective. That's exactly what belief or philosophy is & why they are not included as science.. they do lead to theories though.
allfitch84 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen I don't know about others, but I'm not interested in outsmarting anyone, whether that be you, another believe or Jesus. I'm interested in people living a good life & in the liberty of all people. While there is some good to religion, the kind that is used right now throughout the world is more of a prison than anything else. People are brainwashed as children to be arrogant about their beliefs & dismissive, as well as hateful towards anything outside of their circle.....
allfitch84 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen and I'm sure there are atheists that do the same thing & i'm against that too. Religion scares me; it scares me because it's self-interested & self-asserting. The way that it's used, it blocks free thinking & relies on faith in your faith, & that there are people here that know what god wants. It's powerful & dangerous. "Science can help you build a bomb, but only faith will make someone use it." The faith that they're right, the faith that they're doing god's work, either way.
allfitch84 1 month ago
My favorite quote of all times: "No matter in what you believe here on earth or what questions bother you, but there - whatever the place it would be you will find answers. The real question will be is what's the benefit of your knowledge?"
So my advice to everyone who's religious, humagious and athegious is to shut up and you will find out for yourself. Trust me it will be soon, because your life isn't that long! Good luck and remember you can't blow your only single try.
slivovich 5 months ago
@richardaberdeen Wow, YOU need evidence. How about you open a science book or watch Stephen Hawking? Science dosen't have all the answers, but I guarantee it has more evidence than Christianity. Oh, and BTW, the bible isn't evidence, it's just a book saying it is evidence
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@mrquinnie429 Atheist: "I don't have all the answers, but I know nobody created the universe". Visiter to earth from Mars on finding a computer buried in the desert where nobody is around: "I know nobody created this computer, I just don't have all the answers". Yeah, that really makes sense. Atheism = greater superstition than all other superstitions combined.
AberdeenFTM 1 month ago
@AberdeenFTM Atheists wouldn't be so mean if people like you weren't so ridiculously stupid.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 Atheists are mean because they are sinners who need God's help, just like the rest of us. You should be careful who you call stupid, your Freudian slip is showing. According to modern behavioral science, agreeing precisely with Jesus and Paul, what causes greed, hatred, prejudice, stress, tension, murder, rape, theft, false witness, slavery, war and other human oppression arises from within us all (source; Britannica; "Human Sexuality" & related).
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen What? I'm an atheist & you'd be hard pressed to find someone that would call me 'mean' by any stretch. And of course all of those things arise within us, it's the only place that it can... same with generosity, kindness, love, acceptance, peace, & charity. Everything comes from our thoughts... you can't do anything without it first being a thought. It doesn't take Jesus to tell you that, just some observation.
allfitch84 1 month ago
@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
mrquinnie429 1 month ago
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@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
mrquinnie429 1 month ago
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@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
mrquinnie429 1 month ago
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@AberdeenFTM Nice strawman you got there. Any intelligent atheist won't say there isn't for sure no God or he knows exactly how the universe was formed. We don't have the answers and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It's not up to atheists to disprove God, it's up to theists to prove God. Soooo, come on now, prove God's existence to me.
mrquinnie429 1 month ago
great production values here, very nicely done
tmc359 6 months ago
what SUBLIME music!
tmc359 6 months ago
NIETZSCHE MOTHER FUCKER
FleshHungryFiend 7 months ago
Definition of Obvious Liar: Pretending there is no God or, pretending anything else that is not based on any evidence. Atheism = greatest and most baseless of all known human superstitions. If there is no God, then no one designed the human brain and thus, my computer, my house and every building in the city I live in designed itself. It isn't being fair to the superstitious, to compare them with atheists, who remain the most naive and superstitious of all beings in the universe and beyond.
richardaberdeen 7 months ago
@richardaberdeen what a troll, seriously! its obvious either you are a troll or you just simply dont understand anything! Atheist = I DONT BELIEVE YOU! period !..now, how does that qualifies as liyng? u say there is a god! you make the claim, i say: i dont believe you! show me evidence, is too hard to grasp? my intention here is not to provoque nor deconvert anyone! but please stop being dishonest! some of us really care wheather our beliefs are true!..
stress4rmbk 7 months ago
@stress4rmbk No, you've got that backwards. This is an atheist forum and, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. If you came onto a forum of my invention, then it would be correct for you to say you don't believe me. If you want me to believe in your extreme narrow-minded bullshit of atheism, then I REQUIRE EVIDENCE. If you are going to pretend the universe magically exists without any brains behing it, then I REQUIRE EVIDENCE. Otherwise, I'm going to continue to call you a fraud, which you obviously are.
richardaberdeen 7 months ago
@richardaberdeen HOW DISHONEST!! atheist is just a label for people who hapenned to reject the claims or the concept of god or gods! due to the lack of evidence! you just commited a logical fallacy and shifted the argument! atheism deals with one question whether there is a god or whether not! now reguarding the universe appearing magically lol..what a douche! serious! u have no idea on what the big bang theory is or you just playing stupid/ either or! you are a waste of time, LAME! ps: fuck of
stress4rmbk 7 months ago
@stress4rmbk HOW DISHONEST??? What is dishonest is to pretend that nobody created the universe, yet have no rational explanation for how otherwise it happens to exists. Atheists are far more dishones than all of the liars and crooks on Wall Street who may be totally crooked but otherwise, are not atheists.
richardaberdeen 7 months ago
@richardaberdeen hahahhahahaa you are a joke! ... no doubt you are a troll...lol
stress4rmbk 7 months ago
@stress4rmbk No, atheism rejects the obvious, that the universe requires a creator. If you are going to pretend the universe magically appeared all by itself, then you are required to provide evidence, just as if I stood up at Oxford University beside some lying ass named Dawkins and claimed the spaghetti monster exists, it would be up to me to provide evidence. Nobody needs to provide any more evidence that somebody created the universe, the universe itself is the evidence.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen CONGRATS! For making yourself a complete douchebag!!! You have won the first prize for "Complete narrow-minded asshole"........................fuck off mister.
RichtoffenRoach 5 months ago
@richardaberdeen I truly feel bad that there are people in the world that can be as stupid as you.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 This bounces off rather easily, coming from someone who believes the universe magically appeared all by itself. Sorry, I stopped believing in the spaghetti monster, tooth fairy and santa clause a long time ago. Forgive me, but I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist--I can't speak for the rest of us sinners, but it is way too hard for me to believe the universe magically appeared; just way, way, way too hard.
AberdeenFTM 1 month ago
@AberdeenFTM where did that come from? Atheism is by definition "not god". It does not in anyway mean belief. It is a definition that requires belief to exist. Atheists do not identify themselves as atheists. Other religions make that distinction. I don't know what made you so angry at people that choose there life based on proof. It is free thinking and choosing not to fill in the blanks so they can feel safe and secure.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 God, by definition, is the creator of the universe. If atheism is by definition, "not God", then atheism by definition, is the most superstitious nonsense ever invented. There is no evidence the universe magically appeared all by itself. You're just making a circular argument which belongs nowhere remotely in the realm of sanity, logic and/or reason.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@AberdeenFTM lets cut your argument into parts. "coming from someone who believes the universe magically appeared all by itself." I didn't say I did and you shouldn't assume I do if you want me to take you seriously. "Sorry, I stopped believing in the spaghetti monster, tooth fairy and santa clause a long time ago." There is no need to apologize to me. You act like expect you to believe in folklore.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 ALL atheists and agnostics believe the universe either did or could have magically appeared all by itself. Otherwise, they would not be atheists and agnostics. You need to go back to elementary logic school or better yet, elementary school period and, start over.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@AberdeenFTM "Forgive me, but I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist" My previous post clearly states atheism is not a religion and does not require faith. Look it up if you don't believe me. "I can't speak for the rest of us sinners, but it is way too hard for me to believe the universe magically appeared; just way, way, way too hard." It is called the big bang THEORY. It is not hard to believe for somebody that is good at math, and is not a requirement to be an atheist.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 Sorry, no honest person would buy your ciruclar argument bullshit. Either you believe somebody did or did not create the universe. Either way, it is a claim of what you believe. An obvious liar is an obvious liar and, you remain an obvious liar.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen It is not circular it is linear. Did you get lost along the way? Do I need to pull up a link to a dictionary so you can look up liar and atheist. Do not waste my time without the attention span to at least make a decent retort.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 Britannica: "atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often seeks to demonstrate its existence. Atheism is also distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open the question whether there is a god or not, professing to find the questions unanswered or unanswerable." -- Atheism claims no one created the universe=superstitious nonsense.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen "Atheism claims no one created the universe=superstitious nonsense."
On what grounds?
It will be a great day when the origin of the universe actually is found. Just like evolution and the earth being round I will be glad when the facts become obvious enough that even a person like you will have to shut up. If you are right when that day comes then i will gladly shut up myself.
Until then deal with the fact that this whole argument is based on speculation and nobody will win it.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@jmw1500 If you deny God, then you deny that someone created the universe, because God by definition, is the Creator of the universe. Atheists would have us here in the realm of science, reason and sanity believe that the universe magically appeared all by itself, rather than somebody created it. Sorry, but I don't believe in bullshit that has no evidence or any hope of evidence to back it up.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@jmw1500 Britannica: "atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often seeks to demonstrate its existence. Atheism is also distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open the question whether there is a god or not, professing to find the questions unanswered or unanswerable." PRETENDING I'M NOT AS EDUCATED AS YOU DOESN'T MAKE YOU LOOK ANY BETTER
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
Sad people... Beloved what u want to believe, just don't make other people believe :)
forza3skillgod 8 months ago
This is the way atheist reasons:::::Even though i am a simple mortal.Even though i'm a mere mortal,like dogs both we have to bend down just so we can take a crap.And i'm arrogant enough to deny the existence of God.A'm i stupid or what?
TOLTECAAZTECA 9 months ago
@TOLTECAAZTECA No, an atheist reasons that, since god cannot be proven by science, and that most of the claims in the Bible have been proven false by science, there is no god.
HimesInu 8 months ago
@HimesInu You remind me of an insect.The smallest of brains,Yet the big mouth of an asshole.
TOLTECAAZTECA 8 months ago
@TOLTECAAZTECA That's it? That's the best you have? Pathetic.
HimesInu 8 months ago
@TOLTECAAZTECA You are full of God's love I see... friendly reminder, video tittle: Top 10 Atheist Quotes. You antered here, no one forced you to do so, you started blahblahblahing and when people respond you don't like it or something so you call us assholes... what did you expect? that oh brother we saw the light thanks to you amen or something like that? in an atheist video? speaking of the smallest of brains... now please, reply with some pathetically predictable reply XD
DocStrange0123 7 months ago
@DocStrange0123 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah BULLSHIT!!!!!
TOLTECAAZTECA 7 months ago
@TOLTECAAZTECA As I expected... pathetically predictable...
DocStrange0123 7 months ago
@DocStrange0123 Right back at you!
TOLTECAAZTECA 7 months ago
@HimesInu Bullshit. Apparently you have never actually read the Bible. The Bible says a great many things that were untirely unknown to science until the last half of the 20th Century forward. You can read about them in my online book, under my name and a dot and a com.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@TOLTECAAZTECA that's true people are stupid. There are basically no exceptions to that rule. The bible however is made of several parts that do not relate to each other. You can follow Albert Einstein and just believe what has not been proven false, but now in 2012 that is almost impossible to do with anything above a person with an undergraduate degree level of reasoning. English might not be your first language but if or when you respond try not to sound like an illiterate religious nut.
jmw1500 1 month ago
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@jmw1500 Einstein: As a child, I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. . . No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. -- Viereck interview 1929
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
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@jmw1500 Einstein: I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. -Viereck (primary source)
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
"A: I was a practicing Protestant, why I'm in hell?
B: And I was a practicing Catholic, why I'm in hell?
C: And I was a practicing Jew, why I'm in hell?
Angel: I'm sorry to say... You all chose the wrong religion.
D: So, who was right?
Angel: Hmmm... Let mi check... Mormons... Yes, Mormons... I guess."
South Park
ChemistAtheist 9 months ago 18
this is easily the most impressively produced, presented vid of it's kind on Youtube. Thanks.
tmc359 9 months ago
I love the Ben Franklin quote. Except i know for a fact he was no Atheist..this quote was kinda taken out of context. He was a Deist. So he was really against organized bullshit dogma religions but he still believed in a creator, or an "Architect".
Just like me lol. Go Deism! haha
skatenfilm66 10 months ago
@skatenfilm66 Franklin was neither an atheist or a deist. Franklin had his own personal religion, which one can easily find by researching on Google. Franklin, like all of the American founders, believed in a God who inter-acts with the affairs of human beings and as such, none of them were deists by modern definition. Only one, Paine claimed to be a deist and, he was also not a deist by modern definition. You need to study more and open mouth, insert foot a little less.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
dont forget one of my fav. athiest quotes
"If god made us in his image, why aren't we invisible"
superzodiac1000 11 months ago
I'm just starting to regret to have bought this damn thing.. Anyway---- thats a bit of a relative reality, is it not? Hope I made my point. Thanks for reading, and sorry for my damn iPad.
kamikasedude 1 year ago
PS: I hate my iPad.... Oh well, back to my comment---- (although observations can be completely decieveing). I can't say I'm more or less real than god, but I can base my conclusion on the fact that I can also say that the iPad on wich I'm typing is not real whenever nobody is not noticing it. A theist may decide to believe with no evidence or facts whatsoever... Thats a bit of a relativa r
kamikasedude 1 year ago
As you get to choose exactly what you want to believe, atheists also get to do that. The difference is when we decide to consider on what your beliefs are based on. Atheism is based on more racional beliefs and even observations(although observations can be co
kamikasedude 1 year ago
@kamikasedude Whether we believe the shape of the earth is spherical, a square or triangluar in shape, in no way, shape or form changes the shape of the earth. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. What we believe about God in no way changes anything about God, just like what we believe about the shape of the earth, in no way changes the shape of the earth. You need to go back to elementary school and start over.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
beautiful
sbwhite1980 1 year ago
...how can you beleieve if you have never ever seen god???
palukas80 1 year ago
Not to argue with anyone, but hasn't Darwin said on his deathbed that God was real. Just asking for my own well-being.
rexplosi0n 1 year ago
@rexplosi0n That was quote mining. Basically making quotes up to keep up to someone elses needs. He never did say that
ThatKidWithTheVideos 1 year ago
@rexplosi0n Yes, not arguing, but where is the proof for this supposed conversion? There is none, even his wife who survived him, Emma, who was DEVOUTLY Christian and as many people know, this caused great strains on their relationship, denied Charles did so. So, where is the proof? None, just like Religion. What a coincidence.
tmc359 9 months ago
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@tmc359 "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". -- Charles Darwin; "On the Origin of Species", final edition, thus representing a lifetime conclusion. Atheists have a very hard time with historical reality and reality in general. There is no evidence for magically appearing universes; Darwin said 2 years before death, "I have never been an atheist"-no honest human being is an atheist
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@rexplosi0n Ya a lot of them are out of context but they are clever.
jmw1500 1 month ago
@rexplosi0n "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". -- Charles Darwin; "On the Origin of Species", final edition, thus representing a lifetime conclusion. Atheists have a very hard time with historical reality and reality in general. There is no evidence for magically appearing universes; Darwin said 2 years before death, "I have never been an atheist"-no honest human being is an atheist
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
1) Is atheism not a conviction?
2) Reason and faith are not mutually exclusive.
3) I believe in the One, True God because I trust Him and His Word.
4) Oh how truly small we are to presume to interpret the trivial events of our lives against the cosmic scale.
5) the Great Purge and the Great Leap Forward. Nuff said.
6) I pay homage to and worship God through and by faith.
7) This one I actually agree with. Keep the State out of the Church.
HeBreaksLate 1 year ago
8) Refusing to follow the shepherd doesn't make you not a sheep; it makes you a tasty snack for the wolves.
9) Nor do I put faith in a church, but rather in the Almighty who made the earth and the moon and the sun.
10) I am no more or less real than God. (I'll let the solipsists have fun with that one).
“I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.” -C.S. Lewis
HeBreaksLate 1 year ago
You completely misunderstood what Grant was saying! He did not think religion a disease in need of quarantine, and therefore held in the private sector. All he was trying to say was that the state should not influence the religion of the people, that the people should forever be entitled to choose their religion. Not that ones religious convictions should not influence the state, but that the state should not influence ones religious convictions. "Keep the church and the state forever separated"
SouthrnatHeart 1 year ago
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Reaperlastfm 1 year ago
simply brilliant, thankyou for this :)
calvin227gaia 1 year ago
over edited
T4teens 1 year ago
Very good quotes! Here's another one I liked :)
“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” -Steven Weinberg
Luto1212 1 year ago
@Luto1212 That all depends if you believe scientists are good people or bad people. There are a whole lot of scientists who have created weapons of war. Some of them even have very big historical names, like Leonardo DaVinci, for example. You need to study human behavorial science, compare it to the words of Jesus and, stop pretending you are smarter than Jesus, who knew long ago what modern behavorial science only recently supposedly 'discovered' (source; Britannica).
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
@richardaberdeen As for example, according to Jesus, what causes human oppression arises from within us all, which is exactly what modern science believes (source; Britannica, "human sexuality" and related).
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
have you ever asked your selfwho created gravity if the big bang theory is so true?
or maybe this whocreats love or who makes you be passioned on what you belive hmmm to all of you atheist people i got a huge last qouestion who was powerful and perfect enough to make your body so perfect? with so much details and ways of thinking who created that brain of yours did you ever think this way i am curious/ i would like to know if one of you have an answer?
God bless you I BELIVE.=)
B3S0R 1 year ago
@B3S0R obviously never heard of Darwin.
wackojacko2222 1 year ago
@wackojacko2222 "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one". --Charles Darwin, "On The Origin of Species", final edition, thus represents a lifetime conclusion. Darwin also wrote two years before he died, "I have never been an atheist". If you want someone to defend your superstitious nonsense of magically appearing universe, you need to fish in someone else's pond and leave Darwin alone.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
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@B3S0R
"Ahh Christianity - The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father, can make you live forever, if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood , and tellepathically communicate to him that he is your master, so he remove an evil that exists in mankind because this chick was told by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree."
Go ahead and believe. I would suggest more english classes and taking a nonacademic route in life though. =)
jmw1500 1 month ago
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@B3S0R
"Ahh Christianity - The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father, can make you live forever, if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood , and tellepathically communicate to him that he is your master, so he remove an evil that exists in mankind because this chick was told by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree."
Go ahead and believe. I would suggest more english classes and taking a nonacademic route in life though. =)
jmw1500 1 month ago
Music from Cosmos. Carl Sagan would have been happy to see this
gbrlhppr 1 year ago
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@gbrlhppr Carl Sagan is dead, which is the eventual lot of every man. So, who cares what Carl Sagan said? Who is Carl Sagan, that he would or could possibly know there is no God. Carl Sagan, of all people, should have known the sky is way to big and the earth is way to small, for any man to pretend there is no God. How would he know? Atheists = greatest of all known liars.
richardaberdeen 1 month ago
These are epic! My personal favorite is, "If god made us in his image, then why aren't we invisible?"
sleepywolff 2 years ago
your comment was epic sir.
alexanderblake 2 years ago
Not spam. I'm a transcriptionist by trade. Each quote deserved particular attention. The one making the video deserves the attention and value I gave to each one in order.
Not spam.
Paulomycin 2 years ago
So whatsup Paul? Any luck on trying to prove only the Christian God is omnipotent?
kenny5822 2 years ago
@ Paulomycin Stop Spamming. A comment here and there is one thing. But you are just spamming comments that make no sense. Just a bunch of B.S.
unityindualitydotorg 2 years ago
Re 1:28 is a false dilemma and no theodicy is needed for the monergist, who understands the proper definitions and designations of both good and evil. There is none born righteous. No, not one.
Paulomycin 2 years ago
RE: 1:13 Stephen doesn't understand why I dismiss all other possible gods. Only one carries the attributes of omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence. Every other god falls short in at least one of these, even many gods claiming to be "Christian." Thus, Stephen assumes a false "why" and attributes it to me.
Paulomycin 2 years ago
But most followers of other religions would say their god was "omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence" wouldn't you agree with that?
angryatheistdotnet 2 years ago
Wow, I noticed a lot of my point-by-point responses were deleted as "spam."
Angryatheistdotnet: [wouldn't you agree with that?]
They might claim it, though this would only be so in name only; yet not so when put to the test. For example, some so-called Christian faiths believe that God can't guarantee who's saved and who isn't until that person dies. Thus, not truly omniscient. But for the Monergist, this isn't the problem.
Paulomycin 2 years ago
Oh yea, I've been trying to tell Paul that. I told him to prove using non-Christian sources how Allah is not omnipotent and the Christian God is.
kenny5822 2 years ago
@angryatheistdotnet a god can not be omniscient and omnipotent at the same time.
brownbigb 1 year ago
@angryatheistdotnet I don't agree. After the theology is analyzed, you will find flaws in nearly all other religions where their gods fall short in at least one of these 3 attributes (see examples below). Thus, Stephen does not understand why I dismiss all other possible "gods," and rashly presumes to speak for me. =)
Paulomycin 1 year ago
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@angryatheistdotnet "But most followers of other religions would say their god was "omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence" wouldn't you agree with that?"
That would certainly be true of the three Abrahamic religions. The others, not so much.
hawklord2001 8 months ago
@Paulomycin other gods have all of those traits also, but this adds no validity to them at all
patrickledford420 1 year ago