Yo si creo, que Placido en este duo con Turandot le ha faltado el respeto a Puccini con
ese agudo tan gritado y fuera de colocacion, yo siempre he creido que Placido es un gran musico y actor, pero como tenor es muy sufrido por su pobre registro agudo, su mala colocacion de la voz ( the tongue ) y el inicio su carrera como baritono y creo hubiera sido
This is Domingo - the king of all tenors. He is fantastic, he was always fantastic and he always had the most virile and sexiest opera voice in the world. He slipped, so what? Calaf was not even one of his signatures, and it is a highly demanding and imperfect role.
The real 'slip' here is with the costume designer. What was she smoking?
@NinaMicheltorena1 The issue is the destruction of the art form. Opera is about big beautiful voices. Voices that do not show their flaws, are consistent and intelligently sung. Lyric voices that attempt dramatic roles create TARZAN. The three phonies should have allowed dramatic voices to pursue a career rather than dominate the entire world of opera by attempting and failing the dramatic. Great voices do not crack, it is the sure sign of not knowing the instrument not having technique.
@teapartypublishing No voice is perfect. Cracking happens, sometimes you're unlucky and it's televised. It's not like working with a piano where the note is a guaranteed pitch and timbre, the voice is an organic instrument - temperamental and extremely difficult to use.
You are correct that none of the 3 tenors were 'Dramatic' tenors, they did not attempt much of the dramatic repertoire. If anything, their 'technique' allowed them to do just a select few. Many dramatic tenors avoid the high C.
@teapartypublishing I'm drawing 2 things from this conversation. That 1) You don't sing, certainly not tenor, and 2) You've never had any proper vocal coaching - at least nothing that looked at the actual inner workings and pedagogy. I could sit here and argue the toss but I suspect you'll throw a few more names at me from the beginning of the century and tell me I'm wrong, despite my years of experience and qualification. Got to love youtube.
@tombaker1222 I'm a tenor son of a tenor, I could toss you a few dozen more names from the early days. Truly great tenors are consistent if nothing else unlike the modern crop exemplified by the the three phonies. I have more respect for Kraus, Corelli and Gigli in more modern times. To crack so openly is a sign of a lack of technique. There were hundreds of dramatic tenors with high Cs, dramatic means volume not range.
@teapartypublishing Domingo is 70 years of age and is still singing and even creating roles on stage. That's technique. Being able to sing a note doesn't mean you have great technique. Look at Villazon - now an operatic recluse since he gave himself nodules, but he sang the notes. Every tenor has cracked at some point during his career. It's unavoidable. Just because there are no 'bad' recordings of the early artists does not make them better.
@tombaker1222 Alfredo Kraus said "anyone can make do and also a great career can be managed" ("ci si arrangia e c'è chi arrangiandosi fa una grande carriera"). In my personal opinion, Domingo is nothing in order of vocality history because he is an example of nothing: he has developed his career on a technique full of flaws, with a nosy timber and very short extension, singing primary roles with a secondary roles voice, so being arrogant with himself and the public, who adore him as a popstar!
@tombaker1222 I might have had a lesson or two by the way. The Che Gelida on your page is down a full step. If you want to hear a truly great live version go to my page & listen to my father at Parma in 64 for comparison. Parma is the most critical audience in the world, they call Parma the Lions Den. The audience response should amuse you.
@teapartypublishing It's a great rendition, such a pity that voices like your fathers are not better known!
I hadn't realised, but you are quite correct it is down in pitch. They are only young singers after all. I only liked it to try and balance the amount of dislikes it received for no good reason!
@tombaker1222 He was well known for a time. Long story. I must disagree well trained voices have bad nights but to crack is not good at all. There are a long list of voices with proper training, Escalis, Laur Volpi, Lazarro, my father was one, he absolutely never cracked. Trust me my friend training makes you consistent. Glad you enjoyed my fathers Che gelida. He made his Italian debut with Gobbi in 62 singing Wm Tell.
@teapartypublishing You say that great voices do not crack. Are Caruso and Callas not great voices then as I recall Sir Rudolph Bing writing in his autobiography about Callas cracking during a performance of Casta Diva. Besides, singing is also supposed to entertain and I myself have been entertained as a child by those "three frauds" you criticized. I haven't gotten proper vocal training but my inspiration to sing has been Domingo along with Pavarotti and Carreras, not your father in Parma.
@MrOpera67 You are insulting & stupid your opinion is of little value compared to the paying public at Parma who are each one infinitely more knowledgeable of the art form than are you. As for Callas I knew her, I loved her and delighted in her performances but she was sadly lacking in technique. Your understanding of the art form is limited MR OPERA. Were the three phonies using microphones when you were so entertained. Pavarotti & Domingo knew & respected my father even if you don't.
@teapartypublishing I did not say I didn't respect your father. I in fact do respect his long career but I wish you would respect the three men who inspired me instead of pushing your opinion around as if you know everything there is to know. By the way, I know my understanding of the art form is limited but I am also aware that singing high notes aren't the only things that make a good technique.
@MrOpera67 Why do you think they bring mikes into the opera house now? Why do you think there are almost no singers with correct technique. Your heroes do not deserve your adulation. Some of the last good singers were Kraus, Corelli. Caruso was the beginning of the end because he recorded well - he was a lyric tenor with a robust sound. Listen to Lauri Volpi, Escalis, etc... voices that were thrilling live, that is Opera not pretty boy voices that get lost in the third row.
@teapartypublishing I've listened to Lauri Volpi, Corelli, and Kraus and they all have very good voices. However, you still must admire that Domingo, despite his faults, is still singing. And there are singers out there that are not tenors but still very good.
@MrOpera67 Look go ahead & enjoy him I'm not stopping you but to me he always sounded like Poggi on a bad day without the high C. He came to LA took over our opera company and people treat him like he's God. I think he is a barely adequate boring tenor without the style of a Gigli. Respect him at 70, my dad was teaching at 80 & wow! Domingo is famous & rich and has all he needs in the world he does not need me for a fan. Nor do you. One of the 5 most overrated tenors of all time.
@teapartypublishing Completely agree! And one of the most arrogant and not humble tenori in the world! With that voice, he could have barely sung Pong or Pang ...
@MisterPapageno its funny when any idiot thinks he is a opera and singers expert....to criticize GREAT singers of all the ages
specially when that idiot is a young, inexpert, ridicoulous and bigmouth kiddo, please grow up, get experience and then criticize ok?? youre not even a man yet, youre nobody, youre not even the dirt in Domingo's left foot big thumb nail.
@MrOpera67 Yes, but Kraus also said that one can get by (talking about technique) and do a great career. Domingo has had a great career, full of titles that he couldn't sing for the voice and technical flaws he's always had!
@MisterPapageno ah a connoisseur, yes and Kraus sounded much better at 60 than Domingo at 40. Not glorious, not my favorite perhaps - but always thrilling especially on top, a well sung voice, a great tenor - something the three tenors were not. There were literally hundreds of great tenors who were consistent and well trained. Domingo was not one of them.
@tombaker I fear sir that I understand all too well... great tenors... I choose voices like Escalais, OSullivan, Lauri Volpi, Savelli who was my father & who never cracked on stage. Great tenors all - who sang Tell Puritani etc... the three pretenders do not compare.
QUe grande es Domingo¡¡ Y que pequeños sus criticos¡ Que hablen, que hablen de el...aunque sea bien¡ No habia visto tanta gentuza, llena de odio y maleducados, reunida en un foro "cultural". Teneis problemas sexuales? Que coño os pasa? De donde viene tanto odio y envidia?
@VinylToVideo, tu si que eres un crack, por que no te vas con VivaRanota, que es otro crack, y fundais una familia de cracks y os vais a otro foro (de death metal por ejemplo) y dejais de molestar.
@VivaRenata, no sabes lo que dices. Esa produccion del Met es en conjunto una de las mejores Turandot que se puedan ver. Placido convence durante toda la representacion, y los pequeños cracks...bueno no quiero recordar cracks de otros grandes tenores del pasado. La Marton estaba esplendida. Si tu odio no te deja ver ni tu envidia escuchar es tu problema, querida¡. No vales un duro como critica, maleducada¡
Pavarotti Domingo, Carreras simply the three most overrated tenors in history. Gigli was better Bjoerling was better DiStefano was better, and none of these could compare to Escalis Lauri Volpi or Rosvange who actually knew how to sing.
I don't know what's funnier - Plamingo's costume, his singing or his "acting". Eva Marton is utterly horrible and this posting also confirms my impression that the Met is living high on a reputation earned in better days. And I have seen many performances there, few memorable.
brividokaldo, you've posted a lot of videos on opera now and I wonder whether you're a bit of a 'Woulda coulda shoulda'. You're critiquing these massive stars pretty harshly. Maybe preface each explanation with the statement 'I'm a nobody with a little something to say about this somebody' - that might contextualise your videos a little better.
I personally rather enjoy watching this opera over and over again on account of Placido (I own the DVD). His dramatic abilities as well as his musicianship create a Calaf that is sensible, deep, and impassioned. One crack does not negate an entire opera's worth of fantastic singing folks. On the other hand, I am not a fan of Marton (Principessa) here. Turandot is a dramatic role that calls for a huge voice to be sure, but she does nothing but blast the entire performance. A stylistic choice?
fue una pequeñisima caida al final , quiza Placido intento no dejarse cubrir por la voz inmensa de la marton sin conseguirlo y quemo todos sus recursos , Placido siguesiendo un gran cantante , la unica grabacion que he visto en la cual la cubren a la marton es cuando en una gala richard tucker canta a duo " Vicino a te " con Giuseppe Giacomini quien obviamente halla en los 90 era la voz mas enorme de los escenarios
@tklogan111809 oh, he's definitely a tenor, but he never had a real top C (and good b-nats were rare). by the mid-80s, forget it. he did a few telecasts/broadcast of calaf from met and never got this one note. while i prefer other tenors to domingo in some of his big roles, one can't fault his technique, the quality of which is evident in the core quality of his voice at age 70.
@AfroPoli : carissimo amico, tecnicamente parlando Pavarotti si sbranava vivo Domingo. Villazon è un pessimo cantante con una bruttissima voce, una tecnica decisamente lacunosa e uno stile orrendo : cosa c'è in comune tra lui e Pavarotti ? NIENTE ! Ho visto molto opere con Domingo e i suoi problemi in acuto non li ha mai saputi risolvere del tutto : dal la naturale in su era sempre in affanno. Pavarotti invece, a pochi anni dalla morte, aveva ancora si bemolli assolutamente meravigliosi. CIAO !
@31122051 Salve, caro amico. Io ce l'ho con Pavarotti perchè cantava microfonato e quasi sempre fuori repertorio, e così ha ucciso la lirica. Perchè ha cantato Calaf e Manrico usando l'amplificazione, dimmelo tu. Era un tenore lirigo leggero MERAVIGLIOSO, ma non era Calaf, Radames, Cavaradossi, Chenier, Turiddu ecc. Cordiali saluti, ciao!
@AfroPoli : carissimo amico, hai ragione : Pavarotti ha pesantemente commercializzato la lirica ( come Domingo ha fatto per decenni e continua a fare tuttora in veste di baritono verdiano ) ma Pavarotti conosceva la vera tecnica vocale e, pur essendo andato spesso fuori repertorio, non ha mai compromesso la sua bellissima voce. Paragonato a Merli, Zanelli, Lauri Volpi, Masini, Del Monaco, Corelli, Nikolov Bonisolli, Giacomini ... Anche Domingo è piuttosto leggerino ! Carissimo amico CIAO !!!
@ivanfrancesco : non sono un cantante lirico, ma un erpetologo specializzato in ofiologia. Ho preso molte lezioni di canto e sono stato anche violinista per 11 anni, Qui su " YouTube " non troverà nulla di mio ; la ringrazio comunque molto per la stima che nutre nei miei confronti. L'unica vera tecnica di canto per conto mio era quella del grande GALLIANO MASINI, lirico-spinto dalla voce enorme, dagli acuti squillantissimi e dallo stile eccelso. Sarò lieto di discutere con lei anche in futuro !
@31122051 ah ecco!quindi chiunque tenore non ha il do e' una merda secondo lei?tito schipa?Giacomini?merde anche loro?non e' tanto l'acuto che interessa ma quanto la linea di voce.E' vero Domingo ha fatto cose che la sua voce non gli permetteva,ma pagliacci,tosca,machbet ,luisa miller non era tanto una schifezza le pare?lei cerca la perfezione assoluta nei tenori,ma non esiste!
@31122051 Anche Galliano Masini spingeva un pochino(grande cantante per carita')ma di tecnicche eccelse a voglia a citarli:Kraus,Bonisolli,Corelli,Giacomini,Volpi,ma tutti e dico tutti avevano qualche difetto.....la linea di voce di Domingo e' bella fino ad un si bemolle questo e' vero......ma il suo timbro gli perdona anche le sue imperfezioni.......non pensiamo solo alla tecnica oggi giorno cantano Koreani che hanno solo tecnica e timbri di cacca..
What few people know, is that the crack in a human voice is actually healthy. It is a protection device built in that keeps you from permanently damaging your voice. Yes it is amusing, but it happens, even to the greatest singers of all time. I'd like to hear any of you critics sing a High C with that much tone, power, resonance, and beauty.
@mu4990 Well, C crack is normal in ineducated voices or in stressed ones. Domingo has been singing for nearly 50 years, so I hope he was just stressed!
@MisterPapageno What's funny is that this recording was in 1987, Domingo was born in 1941. I don't know many 46 year-olds who have been singing for 50 years.
You know, when everything in an opera is loud, I doubt a slight voice crack from one singer would be enough to make people say that he's a horrible singer. Remember, every single guy, even after puberty, can have his voice crack.
You can do all the correct preparation for singing and, sometimes, the voice just doesn't do what it should. Him cracking isn't a sign of weakness, just that the stars(ie. vocal folds) didn't line for him at that moment. However, he is a wonderful performer for not missing a beat while this happened.
Meh, I didn't mind the crack. It was tiny, anyway. So what? Music doesn't have to be nice and beautiful. Beauty is just one of many aspects, and not even the most important one. I never cared for Domingo, but even if his voice were as ugly as that of Karajan, he would still be a good musician. If nothing else, that man really understands what "dynamic range" means.
I know of no other major operatic career other than Domingo's in which a singer repeatedly cracked his high notes and was still beloved by the audience; if Pavarotti cracked one note the house resounded with "boos." Whatever can be the reason for this madness? They say the cracks in the ceiling of La Scala were made by Placido Domingo's failed high notes. The arrogance of the man is also well known.
Qui si sta decisamente esagerando : che P. Domingo fosse un tenore con dei seri problemi nel registro acuto ( difetto che avevano del resto anche gli stessi Carreras e Bergonzi ) è assolutamente indubbio, ma da qui a descriverlo come un mezzo avanzo di galera mafioso che non sapeva cantare ce ne passa. Al di là del pessimo registro acuto, Domingo aveva una grande sensibilità interpretativa.
Dice bene fabriou. Per non parlare che e lui che ha mandato avanti i tali Cura Villazon ed e stato l'amante con quella Gheorghiu per oltre dieci anni piazzando anche lei ovunque come voce da spinto!
@31122051 Concordo in pieno!!! Secondo me la Marton è una delle più grandi interpreti del ruolo, di grandezza pari ad altre sue colleghe che più di lei vengono associate alla principessa di gelo. Non sopporto quelli che guardano solo al passato e dicono: "Ah! Di cantanti così non ce ne sono più al giorno d'oggi!" Però qui devo dire che, ahimé, una Turandot di tale caratura oggi non c'è più in circolazione! Speriamo venga fuori al più presto...
@adrianocicioni una domanda se lei mi permette con rispetto : Marconi,Caruso,Fleta,Di Lucia,Escalais,Marconi,Gigli,Masini ecc...ecc...dove sono spariti questi cantanti al giorno d'oggi ?Se la mia memoria é buona Domingo perdeva la voce anche con La Dimitrova...Al giorno d'oggi questo baritono di zarzuela è diventato un Dio...e come tale canta ruoli di baritono Verdiano...mi ricordo i tenori degli anni 60,e lei che cosa si ricorda ?
@bodiloto Bè, io ho solo 24 anni. Quindi nella mia memoria ho Martinucci, Licitra, Alvarez, Armiliato, Florez, Vargas, Giordani...immagino che a Lei proprio non ne piaccia nessuno.....
@adrianocicioni guarda Martinucci era un bravo artista,onesto e aveva voce.Giordani mi ricordo dal vivo aveva una bella voce di tenore leggero...Alvarez aveva dal vivo una bellissima voce di tenore leggero,al giorno d'oggi canta repertorio drammatico é orrendo...Armiliato non mi pace...Vargas era bravo ma la sua voce è piccola...Licitra per me é un tenore che non sa cantare. Florez per me hà la voce di una...........zanzara . Ascolta i Grandi tenori del passato,non perdi tempo .Ciao.
@bodiloto : è vero carissimo amico. M. Giordani dal vivo ha una bella voce lirica, abbastanza chiara e di volume non eccessivamente grande ma neppure troppo limitato. Per conto mio è stato un buon duca di Mantova ( c'è una bella registrazione qui su " YouTube " in cui emette, se non erro dal vivo, un re4 ! ). Purtroppo però in questi ultimi anni si sta cimentando in un repertorio massacrante ( Tosca, Simon Boccanegra ... ) che, molto probabilmente, gli sarà fatale. Ciao e a presto !
@adrianocicioni immagina che hài davvero una bella voce e incominci di cantare con Fleta,Caruso,Marconi,De Lucia,Pertile,Gigli,Masini,Paoli,Alva,Schipa ecc...ecc.. epoi i tuoi amici ti dicono :ma che voce ,ma canti come un dio,ma come fai cantare cosi ?Tutto é possibile nella vita, credimi ! E l'altro esempio cerchi di cantare con Florez,Kaufmann,Villazon,Licitra,Armiliato ecc... ti diranno le stesse parole i tuoi amici ? Non credo . Con simpatia,ciao .
yes gay tenor is correct, Heppner did have plenty of power and in fact Corelli though he scooped did have a powerful middle voice and he was a great Calaf, better then Domingo at that anyhow and I am no fan of Corelli. Domingo did a very fine recording of Pagliacci and the vesti was among his best recorded arias. I heard him many times in several roles in the house but I did not like his Otello when I saw him do it. I remember seeing MDM in the role and thats hard to beat.
For anyone wanting to hear the riddle scene with Marton in company with a tenor who has the power and range for the music I strongly recommend Ben Heppner's effort with Marton. He even sings the optional top c'' without scooping and with incomparable ease.
I heard about 5 Otello tenors in house live so I don't really care about a opinion of a 30's year old. Domingo had a darker voice but a poor Otello besides the top, no power and not the right evil sound. Heppner a lyric spinto too light but more power then Domingo in house across the range. I heard both in the same house about 10 years apart and Heppner was better but not my choice either. Del Monaco in 1959, yes I was at la scala and he was terrific in the role heard Cossutto Vickers- great
Domingo could not touch Tucker, never half the size of voice and no top like RT plus I heard his Otello in house so I don't need any advice on Domingo in a role he was weak in live in house. Heppner is not an Otello voice, basically a lyric spinto but his top was bigger then Domingo and the middle just as big, just not as dark or right for the role either but he was better in it. I also was in house for it. Neither one was as good as MDM who I heard do it in 59 in house. He was the Otello
Tuttavia, un tenore ben preparato tecnicamente, anche se drammatico, può raggiungere quelle vette, e superarle pure.
Il problema è che Domingo appartiene ad una scuola di canto che non gli ha permesso di utilizzare in pieno, e con leggerezza, di cantare "sul fiato". Ne risulta una lotta continua ed un canto di forza che ha spesso queste conseguenze. :)
@maxpertile rispetto la sua opignone,ma mi ricordo che negli anni 70-80 domingo faceva tutto possibile e impossibile per evitare di cantare con La Dimitrova...per lei mettere la voce nel naso e cantare sempre al limite e senza acuti questa é una scuola di canto ?Sono d'accordo se lei mi dicesse che Aureliano Pertile appartiene ad una scuola,ma domingo...50 anni fa ho sentito tenori fuori la sua immaginazione...mi fermo .
Signor Bodiloto, prima di tutto mi qualifico. Ho 40 anni, insegno canto al conservatorio e seguo la carriera da tenore cantando pelopiù in germania e Giappone. Ho studiato con De Plato, Pavarotti, Gedda e la Freni. Sono d'accordo con Lei in tutto circa Domingo. Ho solo cercato di dare una spiegazione tecnica alle sue difficoltà. Che poi abbia fatto una scuola di canto non perfetta, è sicuro. Molti suoni non sono liberi e mancano di squillo. Ed anche la potenza lascia un po' a desiderare...
mettere la voce nel naso è assolutamente sbagliato ma la scuola moderna, purtroppo, propone questo. Motivo per cui, ahimè, spesso microfonano i palcoscenici.
In Giappone mi capitò di cantare con un tenore, di cui ovviamente non faccio il nome, la cui voce, proprio grazie a questa tecnica, non raggiungeva la terza fila. Il pubblico fu molto deluso.
@92tenor nel naso...non in maschera. E perchè, la maschera, non è il naso. La nasalità ne è solo una minima parte. Le cavità di risonanza sono ben altre. E, per capirlo, bisogna ascoltare attentamente i cantanti tra gli anni 1905 e 1935.
con la frase "non è così", intendevo fare preludio alle difficoltà tecniche di repertorio dei tenori drammatici o lirico spinti. Ma è chiaro che su Domingo Lei ha ragione.
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Cuanta ignorancia en los mensajes a éste video. Se trata de simplemente un gallo, de un tenor, en mi opinión el mejor de todos, que no tenía gran facilidad en para el Do (como tampoco la tenía Caruso ni Schipa). Pues bien, què tiene con eso?... El rol del Calaf le salía fantástico, y lo cantó muchas veces (Pavarotti en cambio sólo 10 + ó - )
@gonzalordm lei parla di Cariso ?di Schipa ?di Pavarotti ?ma che cosa c'é in comune fra questi tenori e domingo ?domingo per me era un baritono di zarzuela ,niente di piu !Dal vivo spesso mi dicevo ma che cosa fa questo signore,perche soffre cosi ?Si ricorda le sue recite con La Dimitrova ?Un tenore senza do e senza si per me non é vero tenore,é un venditore d'immagini .domingo el mejor de todos ?hahahahahahahaha
non è così bodiloto...Il tenori lirico spinti, drammatici, o tendenti al drammatico, per una questione di conformazione delle corde vocali, più spesse ed un po' più lunghe dei lirici, hanno difficoltà con il do. Certo c'è qualche eccezione ma in genere per una questione fisica è così.
Non sono un fan di Domingo ma conosco bene le difficoltà della partitura.
Yes Shicoff was amazing and had tons of squillo in the middle and top especially in house when I heard him in Lucia as Edgardo in the 80's it was amazing and then in the 90's after a terrific run as Don Jose in Chicago 1990 he moved to Europe and became the leading tenor where he remains at the Vienna opera where he lives now for many years with his lovely wife Dawn, who was a fine Soprano. The Flower song from that 1990 Chicago show is on you tube in good sound .
Wrong role for him, he left his balls nearly on the stage floor, an intelligent man so shy sing it, Tucker was not known for Calaf at all and sang it in the early 60's but did it with ease and yet he did not favor singing it and could handle it but he KNEW what roles where correct for him, Domingo sang it all right or wrong for the voice. I heard his Otello in Chicago but I also had heard MDM wow! later Heppner who managed it even with his lyric spinto color, big strong top was why he could .
Heppner must find the low and middle notes somewhere because they could be heard in the Met broadcast along with some huge top notes. Your remarks about Heppner are totally nonsensical. What is wrong with a true tenor singing a tenor role. And, hello you suggest that Otello is almost a baritone role look at the second and third acts before you make a fool of yourself. I cannot speak for Pavarotti not being a fan but Corelli had an exceptionally strong middle and lower voice.
A great observaton since Domingo looks like he's in labor not he has survived his vocal cords must be made of tempered steel. He reminds me of the famous cartoon of Gilbert Duprez spitting blood for his high c''.
I remember some idiot when I lived in Los Angeles telling me back in 1972 that Domingo was young and a better tenor then Tucker so I went and heard him I had heard Tucker ,Jussi and many others but live or on recording PD was no Tucker. People all hear things differently but that guy was really wrong. Domingo sang well as Don Jose in 72 and I have heard him since in fact the year before I had heard Tucker sing Don Jose in Michigan, the met was on tour and he was far better in the role
halevy: The hype that has been expended on Domingo is simply amazing. He was never even close to Tucker's ability or Neil Shicoff's later on. He had a good middle voice and his top normally worked up to high b-flat with anything above the b being the province of digital magic. The most shocking thing is that today we have no one, except Jonas Kaufmann that sings the lyrico-spinto repertoire as well as Domingo did. That is very sad.
@gaytenor Comparar a Domingo con Schicoff, por dios... Shicoff es un tenor de repertorio, fue correcto y nada más, por dios... Domingo ha sido el máximo exponente de la ópera, sin màs.
@gonzalordm Tucker e stato un vero tenore ,un leone !Mi ricordo dal vivo ogni volta quando domingo cantava con La Dimitrova perdeva la voce ogni volta era malato ...hahahahaha me che cosa scrive ? domingo was better than Tucker ? hahahahahahahaha
mi hà fatto ridere é bello per la mia salute,grazie !
I am not a Domingo fan or for that matter Corelli either but I wonder does anyone know about PD and his illness he is being operated on this week already in NYC for a stomach problem and 6 weeks off working? it was in the ny times. I think he sang well but the top is always as a rule tight after his NYC opera days
Quiero denunciar la ingorancia musical de quien subió este video en forma de burla a uno de los mejores tenores de todos los tiempos. Los más grandes pueden tener "gallos" y eso no los hace descender de su escalón de grandes. Este señor es incomparable e inigualable... Señalado por la mayoría de los entendidos en la materia como el gran tenor del siglo XX... Así que un "gallo" no hace mermar en nada esta consideración...
@alexisbosano I don't know where you live, may be you have no democracy, but here in USA he like to know the truth. Yes, he sucks. His upper register is bad... he doesn't have a High C, so if you don't like it, just stay with the hispanic mob defending Mingo (where is he Do)
Querido amigo, creo que el lugar en el que vivo no tiene relevancia para lo que aquí estamos discutiendo. Tuve la suerte de escuchar a Domingo en vivo. Vos lo hiciste? El volúmen es infinitamente superior al de Mr Pavarotti. La voz de Domingo es enorme, la de Mr Pavarotti muy pequeña y sin el cuerpo de la del español. Vos quedate con Mr Pavarotti, que yo me quedo toda la vida con Domingo...
Where in the hell did Domingo sing a top c sharp. In his dreams? At his best Domingo had a very good top b but Domingo and high c'' are not well known to each other and the c sharp requires at least a chorus of Impossible Dream. As for Pavarotti, in fairness, he transposed in I Puritani at the Metropolitan, and, of course, we have the Ah mes amis fiasco when be tried to sing the role of Tonio at age 60 and came up a cropper even given transposition.
domingo pushes, and you cant push out high Cs and sound good. domingo sounds decent up to A natural thats it. but there is not much difference between a tenor and a baritone. a good lyric baritone can still hit high Cs and base baritones As and Bs even its simply the size of instrument. technique is the main separation. fabriou wow, just wow.
I was at that domingo performance and my mouth fell to the ground.....WOW, but not half as bad as his final moments in that awful MET Samson......Disaster!
Schwartzkopf, Gedda, DelMonaco etc.. So glad...That they are gone...What is left? A bad habit close to the brink of necrophilia...Reverence towards a past of glorified screamers...They are fortunately gone...And what IS left then...? Opera...in its true, ubiquitous, united essence...That essence being Placido Domingo...If the Devil is protecting him, to quote one of my simple-minded fellow commentators of Domingo's artistry, then, what can I say? Long live the Devil...
I would have loved to hear the great dramatic tenors of the past. I would suggest some more research if you call them "glorified screamers" - i.e look for MDM un ballo in maschera on youtube
To be honest I cannot see any artistry of PD in this clip - it is bad from the very first key - anyway I like him in the lyric repertoire - best as edgardo when he was young - listen to it and tell me then that it was a wise thing to sing Radames, manrico etc at the age of 26-27
The research suggested being done extensively, I would have to say that what I can't find in the voices of singers like MDM is voice in its entirety. Half voices that reach tops like mere shrieks accompanied by half artistry i.e. lack of interpretation, what makes opera something more than firing vocal firecrackers.I have listened to MDM in Ballo and all I can get is a pacemaker-like monotone. This isn't Riccardo. Just sm with a loud voice reading the score....Where's the rest of it?
Domingo I agree, Del Monaco I agree, Pavarotti? You must be joking. Domingo can sing some things well. Never really like Del Monaco. Pavarotti was great.
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It's not the devil who protects him, it's Domingo's wife to protect him....investigate who she is. that's the reason why on all the shit opera-magazines of today domingo is always recconed as being the number one....He is SHIT, SHI, SHIT, STINKING SHIT
Lo so , pero' lo protegge un certo tipo di mafia, quella della moglie e allora lo fanno passare non solo per tenore, ma per il tenore piu grande di tutti i tempi e di tutti i pianeti, nelle classifiche fatte da quei giornalisti venduti e' sempre il numero uno, al di sotto ci sono gli altri: car
Kalaf not Tarzan
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Yo si creo, que Placido en este duo con Turandot le ha faltado el respeto a Puccini con
ese agudo tan gritado y fuera de colocacion, yo siempre he creido que Placido es un gran musico y actor, pero como tenor es muy sufrido por su pobre registro agudo, su mala colocacion de la voz ( the tongue ) y el inicio su carrera como baritono y creo hubiera sido
mejor cantante.
Tato
recondita1 1 month ago
Oh pls.
This is Domingo - the king of all tenors. He is fantastic, he was always fantastic and he always had the most virile and sexiest opera voice in the world. He slipped, so what? Calaf was not even one of his signatures, and it is a highly demanding and imperfect role.
The real 'slip' here is with the costume designer. What was she smoking?
calaftheeast 2 months ago
Why so many dislikes?
CartoonOperatics93 2 months ago
@NinaMicheltorena1 The issue is the destruction of the art form. Opera is about big beautiful voices. Voices that do not show their flaws, are consistent and intelligently sung. Lyric voices that attempt dramatic roles create TARZAN. The three phonies should have allowed dramatic voices to pursue a career rather than dominate the entire world of opera by attempting and failing the dramatic. Great voices do not crack, it is the sure sign of not knowing the instrument not having technique.
teapartypublishing 4 months ago
@teapartypublishing No voice is perfect. Cracking happens, sometimes you're unlucky and it's televised. It's not like working with a piano where the note is a guaranteed pitch and timbre, the voice is an organic instrument - temperamental and extremely difficult to use.
You are correct that none of the 3 tenors were 'Dramatic' tenors, they did not attempt much of the dramatic repertoire. If anything, their 'technique' allowed them to do just a select few. Many dramatic tenors avoid the high C.
tombaker1222 1 month ago
@tombaker1222 Tell that to John O Sullivan. Wm Tell is a dramatic opera with over 30 high Cs. Cracking happens? Yes to voices without good technique.
teapartypublishing 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing I'm drawing 2 things from this conversation. That 1) You don't sing, certainly not tenor, and 2) You've never had any proper vocal coaching - at least nothing that looked at the actual inner workings and pedagogy. I could sit here and argue the toss but I suspect you'll throw a few more names at me from the beginning of the century and tell me I'm wrong, despite my years of experience and qualification. Got to love youtube.
tombaker1222 1 month ago
@tombaker1222 I'm a tenor son of a tenor, I could toss you a few dozen more names from the early days. Truly great tenors are consistent if nothing else unlike the modern crop exemplified by the the three phonies. I have more respect for Kraus, Corelli and Gigli in more modern times. To crack so openly is a sign of a lack of technique. There were hundreds of dramatic tenors with high Cs, dramatic means volume not range.
teapartypublishing 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing Domingo is 70 years of age and is still singing and even creating roles on stage. That's technique. Being able to sing a note doesn't mean you have great technique. Look at Villazon - now an operatic recluse since he gave himself nodules, but he sang the notes. Every tenor has cracked at some point during his career. It's unavoidable. Just because there are no 'bad' recordings of the early artists does not make them better.
tombaker1222 1 month ago
@tombaker1222 Alfredo Kraus said "anyone can make do and also a great career can be managed" ("ci si arrangia e c'è chi arrangiandosi fa una grande carriera"). In my personal opinion, Domingo is nothing in order of vocality history because he is an example of nothing: he has developed his career on a technique full of flaws, with a nosy timber and very short extension, singing primary roles with a secondary roles voice, so being arrogant with himself and the public, who adore him as a popstar!
MisterPapageno 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing you and your father are nothing, are nobody, domingo is the best tenor of all the ages, youre shit.
BenjaminWagnerFan 1 week ago
@tombaker1222 I might have had a lesson or two by the way. The Che Gelida on your page is down a full step. If you want to hear a truly great live version go to my page & listen to my father at Parma in 64 for comparison. Parma is the most critical audience in the world, they call Parma the Lions Den. The audience response should amuse you.
teapartypublishing 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing It's a great rendition, such a pity that voices like your fathers are not better known!
I hadn't realised, but you are quite correct it is down in pitch. They are only young singers after all. I only liked it to try and balance the amount of dislikes it received for no good reason!
tombaker1222 1 month ago
@tombaker1222 He was well known for a time. Long story. I must disagree well trained voices have bad nights but to crack is not good at all. There are a long list of voices with proper training, Escalis, Laur Volpi, Lazarro, my father was one, he absolutely never cracked. Trust me my friend training makes you consistent. Glad you enjoyed my fathers Che gelida. He made his Italian debut with Gobbi in 62 singing Wm Tell.
teapartypublishing 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing Absolutley agree!
MisterPapageno 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing You say that great voices do not crack. Are Caruso and Callas not great voices then as I recall Sir Rudolph Bing writing in his autobiography about Callas cracking during a performance of Casta Diva. Besides, singing is also supposed to entertain and I myself have been entertained as a child by those "three frauds" you criticized. I haven't gotten proper vocal training but my inspiration to sing has been Domingo along with Pavarotti and Carreras, not your father in Parma.
MrOpera67 1 month ago
@MrOpera67 You are insulting & stupid your opinion is of little value compared to the paying public at Parma who are each one infinitely more knowledgeable of the art form than are you. As for Callas I knew her, I loved her and delighted in her performances but she was sadly lacking in technique. Your understanding of the art form is limited MR OPERA. Were the three phonies using microphones when you were so entertained. Pavarotti & Domingo knew & respected my father even if you don't.
teapartypublishing 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing I did not say I didn't respect your father. I in fact do respect his long career but I wish you would respect the three men who inspired me instead of pushing your opinion around as if you know everything there is to know. By the way, I know my understanding of the art form is limited but I am also aware that singing high notes aren't the only things that make a good technique.
MrOpera67 1 month ago
@MrOpera67 Why do you think they bring mikes into the opera house now? Why do you think there are almost no singers with correct technique. Your heroes do not deserve your adulation. Some of the last good singers were Kraus, Corelli. Caruso was the beginning of the end because he recorded well - he was a lyric tenor with a robust sound. Listen to Lauri Volpi, Escalis, etc... voices that were thrilling live, that is Opera not pretty boy voices that get lost in the third row.
teapartypublishing 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing I've listened to Lauri Volpi, Corelli, and Kraus and they all have very good voices. However, you still must admire that Domingo, despite his faults, is still singing. And there are singers out there that are not tenors but still very good.
MrOpera67 1 month ago
@MrOpera67 Look go ahead & enjoy him I'm not stopping you but to me he always sounded like Poggi on a bad day without the high C. He came to LA took over our opera company and people treat him like he's God. I think he is a barely adequate boring tenor without the style of a Gigli. Respect him at 70, my dad was teaching at 80 & wow! Domingo is famous & rich and has all he needs in the world he does not need me for a fan. Nor do you. One of the 5 most overrated tenors of all time.
teapartypublishing 1 month ago
@teapartypublishing Completely agree! And one of the most arrogant and not humble tenori in the world! With that voice, he could have barely sung Pong or Pang ...
MisterPapageno 3 weeks ago
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@MisterPapageno its funny when any idiot thinks he is a opera and singers expert....to criticize GREAT singers of all the ages
specially when that idiot is a young, inexpert, ridicoulous and bigmouth kiddo, please grow up, get experience and then criticize ok?? youre not even a man yet, youre nobody, youre not even the dirt in Domingo's left foot big thumb nail.
BenjaminWagnerFan 1 week ago
@MrOpera67 Yes, but Kraus also said that one can get by (talking about technique) and do a great career. Domingo has had a great career, full of titles that he couldn't sing for the voice and technical flaws he's always had!
MisterPapageno 3 weeks ago
@MisterPapageno ah a connoisseur, yes and Kraus sounded much better at 60 than Domingo at 40. Not glorious, not my favorite perhaps - but always thrilling especially on top, a well sung voice, a great tenor - something the three tenors were not. There were literally hundreds of great tenors who were consistent and well trained. Domingo was not one of them.
teapartypublishing 3 weeks ago
@teapartypublishing its funny when any idiot thinks he is a opera and singers expert....to criticize GREAT singers of all the ages.
BenjaminWagnerFan 1 week ago
@teapartypublishing who te fuck is your father? who the fuck are you? youre luke and your father is anakin skywalker or what?? youre nobody.
BenjaminWagnerFan 1 week ago
@tombaker I fear sir that I understand all too well... great tenors... I choose voices like Escalais, OSullivan, Lauri Volpi, Savelli who was my father & who never cracked on stage. Great tenors all - who sang Tell Puritani etc... the three pretenders do not compare.
teapartypublishing 4 months ago
@teapartypublishing you are right Domingo, Pavarotti and Carreras are the biggest fraud of the opera world. Here Boo Domingo
signorinissimo 4 months ago
Perchè Domingo canta Calaf? Coglione chi l'ha scritturato, non capisce che non è per lui? Così come Otello e tante altre, cane!
NinaMicheltorena1 4 months ago
Even great chess players do make bad moves sometimes.
This is nothing, just a luxury problem, for some.
ForAll23 4 months ago
QUe grande es Domingo¡¡ Y que pequeños sus criticos¡ Que hablen, que hablen de el...aunque sea bien¡ No habia visto tanta gentuza, llena de odio y maleducados, reunida en un foro "cultural". Teneis problemas sexuales? Que coño os pasa? De donde viene tanto odio y envidia?
millonety123 5 months ago
@VinylToVideo, tu si que eres un crack, por que no te vas con VivaRanota, que es otro crack, y fundais una familia de cracks y os vais a otro foro (de death metal por ejemplo) y dejais de molestar.
millonety123 5 months ago
@VivaRenata, no sabes lo que dices. Esa produccion del Met es en conjunto una de las mejores Turandot que se puedan ver. Placido convence durante toda la representacion, y los pequeños cracks...bueno no quiero recordar cracks de otros grandes tenores del pasado. La Marton estaba esplendida. Si tu odio no te deja ver ni tu envidia escuchar es tu problema, querida¡. No vales un duro como critica, maleducada¡
millonety123 5 months ago
Pavarotti Domingo, Carreras simply the three most overrated tenors in history. Gigli was better Bjoerling was better DiStefano was better, and none of these could compare to Escalis Lauri Volpi or Rosvange who actually knew how to sing.
teapartypublishing 5 months ago
@teapartypublishing I fear, sir, that you speak of matters which you do not comprehend.
tombaker1222 4 months ago
I don't know what's funnier - Plamingo's costume, his singing or his "acting". Eva Marton is utterly horrible and this posting also confirms my impression that the Met is living high on a reputation earned in better days. And I have seen many performances there, few memorable.
VivaRenata 5 months ago
Clearly demonstrates that yelling IS NOT singing!
TheKyomu2010 5 months ago
Ah Tarzan; probably Mingo's most recurring role!
VinylToVideo 5 months ago
The prima looks as if she's been dressed by the wardrobe department from Star Wars.
wnesbitt1 6 months ago 2
I think Domingo has a very rich voice but I always thought he really was a baritone. As a matter of fact, I heard him sing a great Largo al factotum.
zzzut 6 months ago
haha ! who cares ! Domingo is the greatest of all ;)
LucaYune 6 months ago
@LucaYune Tienes razón! Lo que no le perdonan a Domingo no es si entuba, engola o no llega, sino el EXITO
lydiaguarro 5 months ago
plasinodo domingo
sallpario 8 months ago
@brividokaldo YOU ARE TARZAN, IT IS NOT BIG MISTAKE. WILL YOU SING HIGH C?
luudi1 8 months ago
Placido no tiene un Do agudo, por eso parece tarzan!!!
matiasgarcialopez 8 months ago
brividokaldo, you've posted a lot of videos on opera now and I wonder whether you're a bit of a 'Woulda coulda shoulda'. You're critiquing these massive stars pretty harshly. Maybe preface each explanation with the statement 'I'm a nobody with a little something to say about this somebody' - that might contextualise your videos a little better.
jimmyjimmyshortcakes 8 months ago
bravisimoo!
KriBlackRoson 9 months ago
I personally rather enjoy watching this opera over and over again on account of Placido (I own the DVD). His dramatic abilities as well as his musicianship create a Calaf that is sensible, deep, and impassioned. One crack does not negate an entire opera's worth of fantastic singing folks. On the other hand, I am not a fan of Marton (Principessa) here. Turandot is a dramatic role that calls for a huge voice to be sure, but she does nothing but blast the entire performance. A stylistic choice?
AriaSinger1 9 months ago 2
Io mi domando come abbia fatto a cantare 50 anni nei teatri di tutto il mondo...saluti
federic017 9 months ago
fue una pequeñisima caida al final , quiza Placido intento no dejarse cubrir por la voz inmensa de la marton sin conseguirlo y quemo todos sus recursos , Placido siguesiendo un gran cantante , la unica grabacion que he visto en la cual la cubren a la marton es cuando en una gala richard tucker canta a duo " Vicino a te " con Giuseppe Giacomini quien obviamente halla en los 90 era la voz mas enorme de los escenarios
luissuccar 10 months ago 2
What a love the most it the title of this posting. hahahahaha, Tarzan!!!
It is very funny!!
Fortunately for Domingo, He has such a small voice and Eva Marton had a strong one enough to avoid the whole theatre to hear his mistake.
Bquillamus 10 months ago
Domingo's not a tenor, he's a pushed up baritone and this ugly crack is a result of both that sad reality AND a bad technique.
tklogan111809 11 months ago
@tklogan111809 oh, he's definitely a tenor, but he never had a real top C (and good b-nats were rare). by the mid-80s, forget it. he did a few telecasts/broadcast of calaf from met and never got this one note. while i prefer other tenors to domingo in some of his big roles, one can't fault his technique, the quality of which is evident in the core quality of his voice at age 70.
iriisblue 11 months ago
@tklogan111809 you were raised in the mountains by wolves
rovingdesertfox 10 months ago
Hm, if you want real cracking listen to Pavarotti or Villazon.
AfroPoli 11 months ago
@AfroPoli : carissimo amico, tecnicamente parlando Pavarotti si sbranava vivo Domingo. Villazon è un pessimo cantante con una bruttissima voce, una tecnica decisamente lacunosa e uno stile orrendo : cosa c'è in comune tra lui e Pavarotti ? NIENTE ! Ho visto molto opere con Domingo e i suoi problemi in acuto non li ha mai saputi risolvere del tutto : dal la naturale in su era sempre in affanno. Pavarotti invece, a pochi anni dalla morte, aveva ancora si bemolli assolutamente meravigliosi. CIAO !
31122051 11 months ago
@31122051 Salve, caro amico. Io ce l'ho con Pavarotti perchè cantava microfonato e quasi sempre fuori repertorio, e così ha ucciso la lirica. Perchè ha cantato Calaf e Manrico usando l'amplificazione, dimmelo tu. Era un tenore lirigo leggero MERAVIGLIOSO, ma non era Calaf, Radames, Cavaradossi, Chenier, Turiddu ecc. Cordiali saluti, ciao!
AfroPoli 11 months ago
@AfroPoli : carissimo amico, hai ragione : Pavarotti ha pesantemente commercializzato la lirica ( come Domingo ha fatto per decenni e continua a fare tuttora in veste di baritono verdiano ) ma Pavarotti conosceva la vera tecnica vocale e, pur essendo andato spesso fuori repertorio, non ha mai compromesso la sua bellissima voce. Paragonato a Merli, Zanelli, Lauri Volpi, Masini, Del Monaco, Corelli, Nikolov Bonisolli, Giacomini ... Anche Domingo è piuttosto leggerino ! Carissimo amico CIAO !!!
31122051 11 months ago
@31122051 scusi, dato che ha una preparazione magnifica sulla tecnica vocale,posso avere l'onore di ascoltarla?
ivanfrancesco 11 months ago
@ivanfrancesco : non sono un cantante lirico, ma un erpetologo specializzato in ofiologia. Ho preso molte lezioni di canto e sono stato anche violinista per 11 anni, Qui su " YouTube " non troverà nulla di mio ; la ringrazio comunque molto per la stima che nutre nei miei confronti. L'unica vera tecnica di canto per conto mio era quella del grande GALLIANO MASINI, lirico-spinto dalla voce enorme, dagli acuti squillantissimi e dallo stile eccelso. Sarò lieto di discutere con lei anche in futuro !
31122051 11 months ago
@31122051 ah ecco!quindi chiunque tenore non ha il do e' una merda secondo lei?tito schipa?Giacomini?merde anche loro?non e' tanto l'acuto che interessa ma quanto la linea di voce.E' vero Domingo ha fatto cose che la sua voce non gli permetteva,ma pagliacci,tosca,machbet ,luisa miller non era tanto una schifezza le pare?lei cerca la perfezione assoluta nei tenori,ma non esiste!
ivanfrancesco 11 months ago
@31122051 Anche Galliano Masini spingeva un pochino(grande cantante per carita')ma di tecnicche eccelse a voglia a citarli:Kraus,Bonisolli,Corelli,Giacomini,Volpi,ma tutti e dico tutti avevano qualche difetto.....la linea di voce di Domingo e' bella fino ad un si bemolle questo e' vero......ma il suo timbro gli perdona anche le sue imperfezioni.......non pensiamo solo alla tecnica oggi giorno cantano Koreani che hanno solo tecnica e timbri di cacca..
ivanfrancesco 11 months ago
@31122051 un'altro lirico spinto poco apprezzato (per i miei gusti)e' stato VERIANO LUCHETTI.....la saluto e' stato un piacere!
ivanfrancesco 11 months ago
He covered it very well.
ryanlock2u 1 year ago
What few people know, is that the crack in a human voice is actually healthy. It is a protection device built in that keeps you from permanently damaging your voice. Yes it is amusing, but it happens, even to the greatest singers of all time. I'd like to hear any of you critics sing a High C with that much tone, power, resonance, and beauty.
mu4990 1 year ago
@mu4990 Well, C crack is normal in ineducated voices or in stressed ones. Domingo has been singing for nearly 50 years, so I hope he was just stressed!
MisterPapageno 11 months ago
@MisterPapageno What's funny is that this recording was in 1987, Domingo was born in 1941. I don't know many 46 year-olds who have been singing for 50 years.
mu4990 11 months ago
@mu4990 True, but there's a big difference between singing well and just singing! Domingo is a good proffessional but nothing else!
MisterPapageno 11 months ago
omg i think my skin had an orgasm
magulinu 1 year ago
You know, when everything in an opera is loud, I doubt a slight voice crack from one singer would be enough to make people say that he's a horrible singer. Remember, every single guy, even after puberty, can have his voice crack.
mcg413 1 year ago
Gli enigmi sono tre, una è la Cita.
(ndr la scimmia di Tarzan)
Ninela100 1 year ago
Yeah, he doesn't have a high-C but he tried. Not good, but at least he tried.
31operafan 1 year ago 2
OK, so he doesn't have the best high C, but he's still a phenomenal singer.
carminacat93 1 year ago 3
I don't know if it is worst the soprano or Domingo
MisterPapageno 1 year ago
@MisterPapageno The Soprano by a long way. Not nice at all.
schnozz87 1 year ago
Tarzan??? Is Calaf, from Turandot... the aria is called "In questa reggia".
Gerardeus 1 year ago
This guy has more crack than a fat plumber with his ass sticking out of the cupboard.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
good thing the soprano was covering him.
artyzach 1 year ago
@artyzach Not really; he's cracked on his own many occasions.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
You can do all the correct preparation for singing and, sometimes, the voice just doesn't do what it should. Him cracking isn't a sign of weakness, just that the stars(ie. vocal folds) didn't line for him at that moment. However, he is a wonderful performer for not missing a beat while this happened.
jameswhunter89 1 year ago
Even if Domingo isn't perfect and free from errors (who is?) I like his voice and his interpreting... I Pagliacci sung by him is just great.
jazztom86 1 year ago
Holy crap, that is some soprano screaming there that he had to compete with!!!
donerlich 1 year ago 5
Un tipico porco!
DonPaolissimo 1 year ago
As critics at this time said, the role was just too high for him. He was masterful in many, many other roles.
Lovelytenor1 1 year ago
The people who critique this performance on account of a minor crack are simply idiots. This is opera, not American Idol. Get a life.
SFT24 1 year ago 34
@SFT24 MINOR CRACK? The man could never sing a decent high c ever, and even his B natural stunk! He never should have sung the role. He's no Calaf.
Cantormatis 7 months ago
@SFT24 This is a MAJOR crack if I've ever heard one.
VinylToVideo 5 months ago
k this is not tarzan. it is not.
.. is it? surely it's not...
super6plx 1 year ago
Aouch. Great overall performance though.
bsbsbs0101 1 year ago 3
What Opera is it? Why are they wearing Chinese Opera costumes?
Ch3ckm4t3 1 year ago
@Ch3ckm4t3 Turandot. Takes place in Peking, China.
johnnyguano 1 year ago
Thx
Ch3ckm4t3 1 year ago
@Ch3ckm4t3 Take a kindergarten course in Opera, jerk!
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vanderBoedefeld 1 year ago
ich muss nur lachen.... hihihi
wlahmann 1 year ago
Meh, I didn't mind the crack. It was tiny, anyway. So what? Music doesn't have to be nice and beautiful. Beauty is just one of many aspects, and not even the most important one. I never cared for Domingo, but even if his voice were as ugly as that of Karajan, he would still be a good musician. If nothing else, that man really understands what "dynamic range" means.
Timrath 1 year ago
I know of no other major operatic career other than Domingo's in which a singer repeatedly cracked his high notes and was still beloved by the audience; if Pavarotti cracked one note the house resounded with "boos." Whatever can be the reason for this madness? They say the cracks in the ceiling of La Scala were made by Placido Domingo's failed high notes. The arrogance of the man is also well known.
billyguns2 1 year ago
yes but the crack is forgivable. and he's still Placido Domingo.
ndelrozario09 1 year ago
Aunque, alguien diga que hay versiones mejores, Etc. Etc. Etc. CHAPÓ a un ARTISTA.
RAMEY1971 1 year ago
Things like this happen!! Be a singer and then you'll understand! In my last opera the baritone cracked. Give them a break guys!
MrJaco1989 1 year ago
@MrJaco1989 well, if it was a singer that was doing it for free then no one would mind. But Domingo gets payed a handsome sume of money.
NEBESHIKU 1 year ago
Anyone really surprised? He always, even from the early days Cr-r-r-r-acked wide open on A & above. Really second rate!
DonPaolissimo 1 year ago
Qui si sta decisamente esagerando : che P. Domingo fosse un tenore con dei seri problemi nel registro acuto ( difetto che avevano del resto anche gli stessi Carreras e Bergonzi ) è assolutamente indubbio, ma da qui a descriverlo come un mezzo avanzo di galera mafioso che non sapeva cantare ce ne passa. Al di là del pessimo registro acuto, Domingo aveva una grande sensibilità interpretativa.
31122051 1 year ago
Dice bene fabriou. Per non parlare che e lui che ha mandato avanti i tali Cura Villazon ed e stato l'amante con quella Gheorghiu per oltre dieci anni piazzando anche lei ovunque come voce da spinto!
tenorotti 1 year ago
La Marton qui è veramente spettacolare.
31122051 1 year ago 2
@31122051 Concordo in pieno!!! Secondo me la Marton è una delle più grandi interpreti del ruolo, di grandezza pari ad altre sue colleghe che più di lei vengono associate alla principessa di gelo. Non sopporto quelli che guardano solo al passato e dicono: "Ah! Di cantanti così non ce ne sono più al giorno d'oggi!" Però qui devo dire che, ahimé, una Turandot di tale caratura oggi non c'è più in circolazione! Speriamo venga fuori al più presto...
adrianocicioni 1 year ago
@adrianocicioni una domanda se lei mi permette con rispetto : Marconi,Caruso,Fleta,Di Lucia,Escalais,Marconi,Gigli,Masini ecc...ecc...dove sono spariti questi cantanti al giorno d'oggi ?Se la mia memoria é buona Domingo perdeva la voce anche con La Dimitrova...Al giorno d'oggi questo baritono di zarzuela è diventato un Dio...e come tale canta ruoli di baritono Verdiano...mi ricordo i tenori degli anni 60,e lei che cosa si ricorda ?
bodiloto 1 year ago
@bodiloto Bè, io ho solo 24 anni. Quindi nella mia memoria ho Martinucci, Licitra, Alvarez, Armiliato, Florez, Vargas, Giordani...immagino che a Lei proprio non ne piaccia nessuno.....
adrianocicioni 1 year ago
@adrianocicioni guarda Martinucci era un bravo artista,onesto e aveva voce.Giordani mi ricordo dal vivo aveva una bella voce di tenore leggero...Alvarez aveva dal vivo una bellissima voce di tenore leggero,al giorno d'oggi canta repertorio drammatico é orrendo...Armiliato non mi pace...Vargas era bravo ma la sua voce è piccola...Licitra per me é un tenore che non sa cantare. Florez per me hà la voce di una...........zanzara . Ascolta i Grandi tenori del passato,non perdi tempo .Ciao.
bodiloto 1 year ago
@bodiloto : è vero carissimo amico. M. Giordani dal vivo ha una bella voce lirica, abbastanza chiara e di volume non eccessivamente grande ma neppure troppo limitato. Per conto mio è stato un buon duca di Mantova ( c'è una bella registrazione qui su " YouTube " in cui emette, se non erro dal vivo, un re4 ! ). Purtroppo però in questi ultimi anni si sta cimentando in un repertorio massacrante ( Tosca, Simon Boccanegra ... ) che, molto probabilmente, gli sarà fatale. Ciao e a presto !
31122051 1 year ago
@adrianocicioni immagina che hài davvero una bella voce e incominci di cantare con Fleta,Caruso,Marconi,De Lucia,Pertile,Gigli,Masini,Paoli,Alva,Schipa ecc...ecc.. epoi i tuoi amici ti dicono :ma che voce ,ma canti come un dio,ma come fai cantare cosi ?Tutto é possibile nella vita, credimi ! E l'altro esempio cerchi di cantare con Florez,Kaufmann,Villazon,Licitra,Armiliato ecc... ti diranno le stesse parole i tuoi amici ? Non credo . Con simpatia,ciao .
bodiloto 1 year ago 2
yes gay tenor is correct, Heppner did have plenty of power and in fact Corelli though he scooped did have a powerful middle voice and he was a great Calaf, better then Domingo at that anyhow and I am no fan of Corelli. Domingo did a very fine recording of Pagliacci and the vesti was among his best recorded arias. I heard him many times in several roles in the house but I did not like his Otello when I saw him do it. I remember seeing MDM in the role and thats hard to beat.
halavey 1 year ago
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Matt54e 1 year ago
For anyone wanting to hear the riddle scene with Marton in company with a tenor who has the power and range for the music I strongly recommend Ben Heppner's effort with Marton. He even sings the optional top c'' without scooping and with incomparable ease.
gaytenor 1 year ago
I heard about 5 Otello tenors in house live so I don't really care about a opinion of a 30's year old. Domingo had a darker voice but a poor Otello besides the top, no power and not the right evil sound. Heppner a lyric spinto too light but more power then Domingo in house across the range. I heard both in the same house about 10 years apart and Heppner was better but not my choice either. Del Monaco in 1959, yes I was at la scala and he was terrific in the role heard Cossutto Vickers- great
halavey 1 year ago
Domingo could not touch Tucker, never half the size of voice and no top like RT plus I heard his Otello in house so I don't need any advice on Domingo in a role he was weak in live in house. Heppner is not an Otello voice, basically a lyric spinto but his top was bigger then Domingo and the middle just as big, just not as dark or right for the role either but he was better in it. I also was in house for it. Neither one was as good as MDM who I heard do it in 59 in house. He was the Otello
halavey 1 year ago
Tuttavia, un tenore ben preparato tecnicamente, anche se drammatico, può raggiungere quelle vette, e superarle pure.
Il problema è che Domingo appartiene ad una scuola di canto che non gli ha permesso di utilizzare in pieno, e con leggerezza, di cantare "sul fiato". Ne risulta una lotta continua ed un canto di forza che ha spesso queste conseguenze. :)
maxpertile 1 year ago
@maxpertile rispetto la sua opignone,ma mi ricordo che negli anni 70-80 domingo faceva tutto possibile e impossibile per evitare di cantare con La Dimitrova...per lei mettere la voce nel naso e cantare sempre al limite e senza acuti questa é una scuola di canto ?Sono d'accordo se lei mi dicesse che Aureliano Pertile appartiene ad una scuola,ma domingo...50 anni fa ho sentito tenori fuori la sua immaginazione...mi fermo .
bodiloto 1 year ago
Signor Bodiloto, prima di tutto mi qualifico. Ho 40 anni, insegno canto al conservatorio e seguo la carriera da tenore cantando pelopiù in germania e Giappone. Ho studiato con De Plato, Pavarotti, Gedda e la Freni. Sono d'accordo con Lei in tutto circa Domingo. Ho solo cercato di dare una spiegazione tecnica alle sue difficoltà. Che poi abbia fatto una scuola di canto non perfetta, è sicuro. Molti suoni non sono liberi e mancano di squillo. Ed anche la potenza lascia un po' a desiderare...
maxpertile 1 year ago
mettere la voce nel naso è assolutamente sbagliato ma la scuola moderna, purtroppo, propone questo. Motivo per cui, ahimè, spesso microfonano i palcoscenici.
In Giappone mi capitò di cantare con un tenore, di cui ovviamente non faccio il nome, la cui voce, proprio grazie a questa tecnica, non raggiungeva la terza fila. Il pubblico fu molto deluso.
maxpertile 1 year ago 11
@maxpertile mi scusi, ma mi spiega perchè mettere la voce in maschera è sbagliato???....
92tenor 11 months ago
@92tenor nel naso...non in maschera. E perchè, la maschera, non è il naso. La nasalità ne è solo una minima parte. Le cavità di risonanza sono ben altre. E, per capirlo, bisogna ascoltare attentamente i cantanti tra gli anni 1905 e 1935.
maxpertile 11 months ago
@maxpertole PS non ho capito che cosa intendeva dirmi con le parole cito non é cosi ?Che cosa per lei non é cosi da quello che ho scritto ?
bodiloto 1 year ago
con la frase "non è così", intendevo fare preludio alle difficoltà tecniche di repertorio dei tenori drammatici o lirico spinti. Ma è chiaro che su Domingo Lei ha ragione.
maxpertile 1 year ago 5
Nel complesso, però, questa Turandot non è affatto male.
31122051 1 year ago
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Cuanta ignorancia en los mensajes a éste video. Se trata de simplemente un gallo, de un tenor, en mi opinión el mejor de todos, que no tenía gran facilidad en para el Do (como tampoco la tenía Caruso ni Schipa). Pues bien, què tiene con eso?... El rol del Calaf le salía fantástico, y lo cantó muchas veces (Pavarotti en cambio sólo 10 + ó - )
gonzalordm 1 year ago
@gonzalordm lei parla di Cariso ?di Schipa ?di Pavarotti ?ma che cosa c'é in comune fra questi tenori e domingo ?domingo per me era un baritono di zarzuela ,niente di piu !Dal vivo spesso mi dicevo ma che cosa fa questo signore,perche soffre cosi ?Si ricorda le sue recite con La Dimitrova ?Un tenore senza do e senza si per me non é vero tenore,é un venditore d'immagini .domingo el mejor de todos ?hahahahahahahaha
bodiloto 1 year ago
non è così bodiloto...Il tenori lirico spinti, drammatici, o tendenti al drammatico, per una questione di conformazione delle corde vocali, più spesse ed un po' più lunghe dei lirici, hanno difficoltà con il do. Certo c'è qualche eccezione ma in genere per una questione fisica è così.
Non sono un fan di Domingo ma conosco bene le difficoltà della partitura.
maxpertile 1 year ago
Yes Shicoff was amazing and had tons of squillo in the middle and top especially in house when I heard him in Lucia as Edgardo in the 80's it was amazing and then in the 90's after a terrific run as Don Jose in Chicago 1990 he moved to Europe and became the leading tenor where he remains at the Vienna opera where he lives now for many years with his lovely wife Dawn, who was a fine Soprano. The Flower song from that 1990 Chicago show is on you tube in good sound .
halavey 1 year ago
Wrong role for him, he left his balls nearly on the stage floor, an intelligent man so shy sing it, Tucker was not known for Calaf at all and sang it in the early 60's but did it with ease and yet he did not favor singing it and could handle it but he KNEW what roles where correct for him, Domingo sang it all right or wrong for the voice. I heard his Otello in Chicago but I also had heard MDM wow! later Heppner who managed it even with his lyric spinto color, big strong top was why he could .
halavey 1 year ago
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Matt54e 1 year ago
Heppner must find the low and middle notes somewhere because they could be heard in the Met broadcast along with some huge top notes. Your remarks about Heppner are totally nonsensical. What is wrong with a true tenor singing a tenor role. And, hello you suggest that Otello is almost a baritone role look at the second and third acts before you make a fool of yourself. I cannot speak for Pavarotti not being a fan but Corelli had an exceptionally strong middle and lower voice.
gaytenor 1 year ago
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Matt54e 1 year ago
A great observaton since Domingo looks like he's in labor not he has survived his vocal cords must be made of tempered steel. He reminds me of the famous cartoon of Gilbert Duprez spitting blood for his high c''.
gaytenor 1 year ago
I remember some idiot when I lived in Los Angeles telling me back in 1972 that Domingo was young and a better tenor then Tucker so I went and heard him I had heard Tucker ,Jussi and many others but live or on recording PD was no Tucker. People all hear things differently but that guy was really wrong. Domingo sang well as Don Jose in 72 and I have heard him since in fact the year before I had heard Tucker sing Don Jose in Michigan, the met was on tour and he was far better in the role
halavey 1 year ago
halevy: The hype that has been expended on Domingo is simply amazing. He was never even close to Tucker's ability or Neil Shicoff's later on. He had a good middle voice and his top normally worked up to high b-flat with anything above the b being the province of digital magic. The most shocking thing is that today we have no one, except Jonas Kaufmann that sings the lyrico-spinto repertoire as well as Domingo did. That is very sad.
gaytenor 1 year ago
@gaytenor Comparar a Domingo con Schicoff, por dios... Shicoff es un tenor de repertorio, fue correcto y nada más, por dios... Domingo ha sido el máximo exponente de la ópera, sin màs.
gonzalordm 1 year ago
@halavey Domingo was better than Tucker.
gonzalordm 1 year ago
@gonzalordm Tucker e stato un vero tenore ,un leone !Mi ricordo dal vivo ogni volta quando domingo cantava con La Dimitrova perdeva la voce ogni volta era malato ...hahahahaha me che cosa scrive ? domingo was better than Tucker ? hahahahahahahaha
mi hà fatto ridere é bello per la mia salute,grazie !
bodiloto 1 year ago 6
I am not a Domingo fan or for that matter Corelli either but I wonder does anyone know about PD and his illness he is being operated on this week already in NYC for a stomach problem and 6 weeks off working? it was in the ny times. I think he sang well but the top is always as a rule tight after his NYC opera days
halavey 1 year ago
Quiero denunciar la ingorancia musical de quien subió este video en forma de burla a uno de los mejores tenores de todos los tiempos. Los más grandes pueden tener "gallos" y eso no los hace descender de su escalón de grandes. Este señor es incomparable e inigualable... Señalado por la mayoría de los entendidos en la materia como el gran tenor del siglo XX... Así que un "gallo" no hace mermar en nada esta consideración...
alexisbosano 1 year ago
@alexisbosano I don't know where you live, may be you have no democracy, but here in USA he like to know the truth. Yes, he sucks. His upper register is bad... he doesn't have a High C, so if you don't like it, just stay with the hispanic mob defending Mingo (where is he Do)
qbanodiaz 1 year ago
Querido amigo, creo que el lugar en el que vivo no tiene relevancia para lo que aquí estamos discutiendo. Tuve la suerte de escuchar a Domingo en vivo. Vos lo hiciste? El volúmen es infinitamente superior al de Mr Pavarotti. La voz de Domingo es enorme, la de Mr Pavarotti muy pequeña y sin el cuerpo de la del español. Vos quedate con Mr Pavarotti, que yo me quedo toda la vida con Domingo...
alexisbosano 1 year ago
tiene un cañon de voz este señor!!!!!
yosoyamorverdadero 2 years ago
When is this sung in the opera?
lesmisfan100 2 years ago
He looks like Said from LOST :)))
Oksebuterat 2 years ago
Where in the hell did Domingo sing a top c sharp. In his dreams? At his best Domingo had a very good top b but Domingo and high c'' are not well known to each other and the c sharp requires at least a chorus of Impossible Dream. As for Pavarotti, in fairness, he transposed in I Puritani at the Metropolitan, and, of course, we have the Ah mes amis fiasco when be tried to sing the role of Tonio at age 60 and came up a cropper even given transposition.
gaytenor 2 years ago
@gaytenor I'm with you, he does not have nor he ever did have a high C. Never. He sounds pushed and monochromatic
qbanodiaz 1 year ago
Viva Placido!!
tidaliumpelo 2 years ago
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npandovska 2 years ago
Quite pedestrian singing from him and she pretty much drowns him out.
VinylToVideo 2 years ago
hey can sing... thought he would be that fat dude from el gordo y la flaca....
818inlovewithu818 2 years ago
domingo pushes, and you cant push out high Cs and sound good. domingo sounds decent up to A natural thats it. but there is not much difference between a tenor and a baritone. a good lyric baritone can still hit high Cs and base baritones As and Bs even its simply the size of instrument. technique is the main separation. fabriou wow, just wow.
bigus 2 years ago
Y ni siquiera era un do agudo... más que obvio el por qué es que Domingo nunca se arriesgó a dar notas altas, simplemente, nunca pudo darlas.
dendrix01 2 years ago 2
I was at that domingo performance and my mouth fell to the ground.....WOW, but not half as bad as his final moments in that awful MET Samson......Disaster!
rumpwrestler 2 years ago 2
Due to the acoustic conditions, there, it should have made a huge impact. In a recording like this, the crack is not as clear.
LordMgls 2 years ago 2
Schwartzkopf, Gedda, DelMonaco etc.. So glad...That they are gone...What is left? A bad habit close to the brink of necrophilia...Reverence towards a past of glorified screamers...They are fortunately gone...And what IS left then...? Opera...in its true, ubiquitous, united essence...That essence being Placido Domingo...If the Devil is protecting him, to quote one of my simple-minded fellow commentators of Domingo's artistry, then, what can I say? Long live the Devil...
diowanderer 2 years ago
I would have loved to hear the great dramatic tenors of the past. I would suggest some more research if you call them "glorified screamers" - i.e look for MDM un ballo in maschera on youtube
To be honest I cannot see any artistry of PD in this clip - it is bad from the very first key - anyway I like him in the lyric repertoire - best as edgardo when he was young - listen to it and tell me then that it was a wise thing to sing Radames, manrico etc at the age of 26-27
Tenorino1980 2 years ago
The research suggested being done extensively, I would have to say that what I can't find in the voices of singers like MDM is voice in its entirety. Half voices that reach tops like mere shrieks accompanied by half artistry i.e. lack of interpretation, what makes opera something more than firing vocal firecrackers.I have listened to MDM in Ballo and all I can get is a pacemaker-like monotone. This isn't Riccardo. Just sm with a loud voice reading the score....Where's the rest of it?
diowanderer 2 years ago
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DOMINGO, DEL MONACO, PAVAROTTI...all shit!
fabriou 2 years ago
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Mooorhe 2 years ago
Di Stefano could shit on domingo....and I shit on you.....
fabriou 2 years ago
Domingo I agree, Del Monaco I agree, Pavarotti? You must be joking. Domingo can sing some things well. Never really like Del Monaco. Pavarotti was great.
Nater389 2 years ago
"glorified screamers"...?
"fortunately gone"...?
"Domingo... If the Devil is protecting him"... ?
What a load of hateful commentary.
But in life, expressions with such devilish intent, turn around to pang the culprit like a boomerang.
Domingo, is a lazy singer. Period. No excuses for him.
So lazy people have to work twice as hard, and still, they can't do it right. That's the irony of being lazy.
You, on the other hand, have a lazy mind.
So keep on your devotion to Satan and rot in Hell.
fabrizzzio48 2 years ago
Thank you...See you there...Actually how's it there? You must be loving it.....
diowanderer 2 years ago
Domingo should have stopped at being a bariton.
fabriou 2 years ago 2
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It's not the devil who protects him, it's Domingo's wife to protect him....investigate who she is. that's the reason why on all the shit opera-magazines of today domingo is always recconed as being the number one....He is SHIT, SHI, SHIT, STINKING SHIT
fabriou 2 years ago
da 40 anni domingo lo stesso,come tenore senza acuti,come baritono verdiano ,senza voce .
bodiloto 2 years ago
Lo so , pero' lo protegge un certo tipo di mafia, quella della moglie e allora lo fanno passare non solo per tenore, ma per il tenore piu grande di tutti i tempi e di tutti i pianeti, nelle classifiche fatte da quei giornalisti venduti e' sempre il numero uno, al di sotto ci sono gli altri: car