im sure if mma guys were good enough boxers they would do boxing n make millions but they arent maybe there good all round fighters but they wouldnt beat a boxer in a boxing match but a boxer has the chance to beat a mma fighter in a mma match
Makes you wonder how far Tito could have gone if he had put more emphasis on his standup. boxing in particular. his ground and pound got played out after 2006. All you really needed to do was stuff his takedowns and he was kinda in limbo...
Professional boxing record Total 85 Wins 73 By knockout 44 Losses 7 By knockout 0 Draws 3 No contests 2 Mixed martial arts record Total 1 Wins 0 Losses 1 By submission 1 Amateur career Total 33 Wins 31 By knockout 29 Losses 2 By knockout 0
@CaIIMeDre I wouldn't go that far. I've had a few MMA fighters hold their own with my boxers. Athletic ability is something that bridges the gap between sports. Guys like Nate Diaz, Georges St. Pierre, Anderson Silva, could probably win a boxing match with a lot of the pros out there. Not the top 100 guys, but some decent boxers.
I used to train a few MMA guys how to box, but gave up on it. I find they don't listen, aren't coachable. The biggest problem is balance. They lean forward to protect themselves from a bull rush, and that takes away their punching power. If they can learn to adjust quickly, then they can get power, but most of them come from wrestling backgrounds, so ducking down and leaning forward are their natural instincts. Makes for too many head butts in the gym.
@BTRFitness What do you mean??? James Toney has one of the best chins of ALL TIME! a natural 160 pounder... who's a fat FAT FAT FAT FATASS out of shape OLD OLD OLD heavyweight and has STILL never been Stopped! I think he is top 20 chins of ALL TIME! How does your comment make ANY sense!
@Gooseman2k2 When he joined the MMA world they gave him a shot at an under motivated and over the hill Randy Couture who Destroyed him in the first round. Your earlier comment was talking about how MMA fighters have glass chins. MMA fans accept boxing as a great sport but boxing fans don't accept MMA as a great sport... they know the sport of MMA is a threat to future boxers.
@BTRFitness First of all... it was NOT my comment... and yes most MMArtists do have glass chins... so what?
and let's not forget... Tim Sylvia was Knocked out cold by Ray Mercer in like 8 seconds. and this is in MMA NOT boxing... Let's see a MMArtist who is 50 years old and contender level... fat and out of shape... go into boxing and in 10 seconds finish the boxer... obviously not!
MMA WILL become a great sport... but needs time to evolve and stake out it's own talent base!
find me one mma fighter who looks good on the pads AND PLEASE POST. The only 2 guys are know that are any good with their combinations are KJ Noons and Nick Diaz. Timing coordination and balance and some speed are the trade marks of the best boxers in the sport. You can always find an escape route in an MMA fight (hit the ground on your back) but in boxing, hands up kid or you're gonna get KdTFO. I never MMA'd but I did wrestle in high school and I spar (boxing)
@led11234 your nutty man there is a lot of good mma fighters who are nice at boxing....you say "but in boxing, hands up kid or you're going to get ktfo" this is true...but in mma you have to do the same thing except i could kick you in you leg for 3 minutes in a round then going on that 4th minute i make the kick look like it's going to your leg again and rise it up to your chin
I agree with you guys somewhat, Lesner relies on his wrestling skills, but when someone can handle your takedowns, you don't have much, I respect the fact that Tito took boxing and Muay Thai, it's essential.
I love MMA and its great boxing is skill and if your in a street fight and you have the skill of a boxer most fights wont make it to the ground a boxer generates alot of power in that 6 inch span
@bigwill9111 men stand and fight like men, these guys dont like the fact of having to stand on their feet and fight so they hit the ground to avoid a fight and wiggle and jiggle and play with eachother for the whole fight, that looks more like a gay porn,
Yeah becouse men ball up like bitches an hope not to get hit like Joshua Clottey did agaisnt Pacquiao
Victor Ortiz vs Mayweather was a prime example how "men" fight I saw kissing,hugging and a sucker punch all in one but ur right boxers do fight like "men"
And ur right boxing is skill thats why you have guy's like Ricardo Mayorga and Jean Pascal becoming WBC champions
@NiggaNotes but yet the ufc give brock lesnar a title shot after like 8 fights. boxing will always be better than MMA. most fights are wrestling matches anyways.
@Asalgado1309 naah man, im a boxing fan and a MMA fan you just gotta look at the right stuff in MMA the wrestling matches are boring as fuck but its like when people just use the jab in boxing . and btw Brock Lesnar is a fucking animal dude
@xpenn420 You mention Brock Lesnar; his problem is he doesn't know how to really box. Ortiz does the right thing when he goes to the source to learn the "Sweat 'Science." If I managed Lesnar, I would have him take 6 to 9 month off from MMA and learn,learn,learn how to box. Lesnar has lost to men who he could have beaten on the ground, but those guy had amature or professional experience in boxing, so lesnar got his clock cleaned.
@LIKWITCREW1 If it looks like gay porn than that must be what you are looking for, Some of the best Div I wrestlers are in MMA as well as ex football players.
Boxing is a skill, the UFC is a joke by the look on Ortiz he has that look like damn this shit aint easy and roach has the look like ortiz realy sucks, UFC is for guys who cant fight and wont fight like men and stand up and throww some hands, they want to hug on the floor for 3 rounds like they doing 69,lol, when u see UFC they hate to stand and fight or get hit they are guys not built for that they have to go to the floor and make out
@LIKWITCREW1 In a real street fight that lasts any length of time you will end up on the ground. Why don't you ask you're self why highly trained soldiers don't just train boxing. It's because real fighting isn't standing there agreeing to only use your hands. Try living in the real world. It's obvious many MMA fighters really need to work on their striking, but they are lacking because of the amount of time they put into the other facets of their game. P.S. Tito looks horrible here, geez.
@LIKWITCREW1 i understand that u get that impression from some fights, some fighters do it for points, some are just tired and some dont have a clue what 2 do on the ground, but in fighting if a man takes u down and breaks ur arm it doesnt matter if hes a pussy or not he beat u, i like boxing more but u have 2 respect a guy's ability 2 break every limb of ur body, thats fighting everything goes
@LIKWITCREW1 are you serious "UFC is a joke" dude you are fuckin stupid any UFC fighter would beat the shit out of a Boxer thats why its called MMA and what happend to James Toney when he fought Randy Couture got his ass whooped. FYI its not called doing a 69 its called Jujitsu
@1roiboi james toney is fucked they should put vitali klitschko vs randy not some fat ass lame ass boxer. or even some one like pacquiao vs bj penn mayweather vs gsp some young and fast and a real boxing champ not just any boxer. if pacquiao throws and moves like he does nobody can catch him in mma maybe silva or jones but thats about it the guy is so fast he even did a seven punch combo on margarito in like a sec in a half and almost ko him. and not just while punches but on the button
@LUIBROWN17 - fat ass lame boxer huh? Toney is the most gifted natural boxer Freddie Roach has ever worked with (google it) Couture should have been man enough to offer a fight in the boxing ring then you would have seen a real ass whuppin' The only way an MMA can ever beat a boxer is on the ground or choke never with their hands even if they crazy punch. MMA are jacks of some trades but boxers are masters with their hands.
TITO HATERS FUCK OFF...WHERE'S CHUCK NOW???? TITO IS THE MAN, ALWAYS PROVES YOU HATERS WRONG. YOUR EVEN SAD ENOUGH TO WATCH HIS TRAINING VIDS, EVEN THO YOU CANT STAND HIM!
With so many MMA fighters taking too many unnecessary punishments basically because they lack the boxing skills, this is a smart thing for Tito. Blocking punches is very important.
@MrWakarimashita It's much easier for a boxer to defend because the gloves cover alot. But the MMA fighters have fist tight gloves where you can easily punch through someone's guard. What MMA fighters do need to learn is, 1: Foot movement example Paul Daley Vs Scott Smith Daley had amazing foot movement it can greatly increase KO power, 2: head movement is needed just like Brad Pickett good boxing skills, alot of MMA fighters use their heads like defence just like Arturo Gatti did RIP.
why compare manny to ortiz? they train in different styles. it may seem the same but MMA is different from boxing. of course manny would beat ortiz in a boxing match and ortiz would win in an MMA match. its like comparing football to basketball.
@Striskelion True Football you use your feet all the time and Basketball your hands, but they both use a ball and have nets to score in so they are sorta the same.
@RunWhilstYouCan exactly! they seem the same because you both punch. but it's very different. it's two different forms of fighting. just as football and basketball, just because you use a ball and net in both games it doesn't mean they're the same.
@Striskelion I think it would be harder for an MMA fighter at any level to beat someone like Khan or Manny. One factor being stamina these boxers can easily go 15 rounds 3 mins each round. An MMA fighter seems to have the hands down low in the 3rd round due to being gassed. A boxer could learn how to do a tired leg kick in 1 day and wrestling is a thinking game. James Toney Vs Couture is like not a good match up. But you get my logic I hope.
@RunWhilstYouCan yeah i get it. that's an interesting point you just made. come to think if it I can only think of several people with good cardio in MMA, ( diaz, velasquez, couture, GSP ) but most of the other guys tire out like you said.
@RunWhilstYouCan youve obviously never grappled. any professional boxer would be taken down IMMEDIATELY. its a fact, they dont have a natural scrambling ability that wrestlers and jiujitsu fighters have, taken down and mauled
@lambovelvet I like how you dismiss standing up. You are like every other MMA fan always trying to score points with well he will just take you down. Most of the stuff done on the floor is very easy it's for children which is danger the brain and body can easily workout how to get out of it. But with most MMA guys not having the balls to stand mostly Americans they tend to dry hump for 3 rounds whilst doing a rear naked choke a move the other guy has no real control over to stop.
@lambovelvet James Toney Vs Randy Courture is a prime example. Instead of Randy proving I'll box him and prove I am a better striker he goes straight for the take down and does a cheap rear naked choke, he did not do MMA he did JuiJitsu. There are many MMA fighters who just box or kickbox like Chuck Liddell, Brad Pickett, Paul Daley, they all have boxing stances yet they can position themselves out of instinct to not be taken down.
@oasismanutd I think that Manny would do pretty good actually - of course, with someone his size and weight. He has a kick boxing background and he could fight one of those guys.
@RatedRKingofKings common dude,kick boxing is almost useless in MMA even anybody manny's weight would kick his ass,Manny has great hands that's it,he would be like a turtle on his back.
I wonder how much Freddie charges for walk ins?
cypresscoach 5 days ago
Why is MMA so gay?!
KallDeRon4345 6 days ago
@KallDeRon4345 mma is a gay thing? are you sure? you're the who's gay i'm sure of it and i know you can't protect yourself faggot asshole....=)
OkrayGaloreToo 3 days ago
i would rather hear feddie talk!!!!!!
nora8brian 1 week ago
I rather hear what Freddie Roach is saying to Tito than Survivor.
hootiepaladin 1 week ago 3
Frito Ortiz.
hootiepaladin 1 week ago
tito should of retired like 5yrs ago
adye1989 1 week ago
@xlilnetx Fuck you
MMA would Fuck up a boxer 9 outta 10 times
Bbyslim87 2 weeks ago
@Bbyslim87
Nah, maybe 9 out of 100 times.
hootiepaladin 1 week ago
I don't want tito to retire...
Bbyslim87 2 weeks ago
mma fighter look so gay... just like the fags that wear the tapout shirts.
xlilnetx 2 weeks ago
Hold on a sec, isn't freddie like way smaller than Tito? Then why is it that Tito punches up on the pad and not through or down?
sebekkha 2 weeks ago
@sebekkha you don't box standing straight up he's knees are bent and freddie is standing straight up duh
cavesavage 2 weeks ago
Head movement? His head barely fits into the Octogon
Jenna's got better head movement...
Devilbat74 3 weeks ago
his form is good for tackling someone, but seems not on equilibrium..
hMMmmpify 3 weeks ago
Who was that guy doing those stretches on Tito?
tuina1 1 month ago
@tuina1 Alex Ariza , its manny pacquiao's strenght and conditioning coach
Jbutler921 1 month ago
Head movement? Tito needs about half an hour to slide that pumpkin of his from one side to the other.
jerome3151 1 month ago
Ortiz has herpes, fact. Rocco has herpes, doinked Jenna, Jenna = infected. Thus, Tito has herpes.
How can you get fights in UFC with herpes?
TehDeadZone 1 month ago
@TehDeadZone Cause they are not fucking each other they are fighting.
florand 1 month ago
man you guys should open yourself a gym cuz you guys are just world class trainers with all these comments. lol
whatsyours1 1 month ago 5
tito jab is so shit i laughed
axelstoner 1 month ago
im sure if mma guys were good enough boxers they would do boxing n make millions but they arent maybe there good all round fighters but they wouldnt beat a boxer in a boxing match but a boxer has the chance to beat a mma fighter in a mma match
richiezzno1 1 month ago
@richiezzno1 if he can stuff a takedown, check kicks, dodge head kicks, chances go higher for the boxer to win a mma match
GrowingUpSortOf 1 month ago
@richiezzno1 Yeah that's worked really well for boxers so far, hasn't it?
xDaemonIncarnate 1 month ago
@richiezzno1 MMArtists are the best fighters , dont let yourslef be fooled otherwise.Give it 10 years MMA will be earning ten times more than boxing.
ImAKwlDudeLloolL 1 month ago
@richiezzno1 LOL even Kimbo Slice who is a street fighter has a 3-0 record in pro boxing
vincearizala 2 weeks ago
Makes you wonder how far Tito could have gone if he had put more emphasis on his standup. boxing in particular. his ground and pound got played out after 2006. All you really needed to do was stuff his takedowns and he was kinda in limbo...
KiloCharlieOne 1 month ago
how about some sparring tito...would do u much good, after seeing u vs liddell...
upurs323 1 month ago
I wish i could hear what they're saying.....
ccslax6 1 month ago
I remember having my first beer...
illaztic 1 month ago
LUIBROWN17 1 month ago
put the best MMA fighter in a ring with the shittest boxer and they fight strictly boxing for 12 rounds, i think we know who will come out on top.
CaIIMeDre 1 month ago
@CaIIMeDre I wouldn't go that far. I've had a few MMA fighters hold their own with my boxers. Athletic ability is something that bridges the gap between sports. Guys like Nate Diaz, Georges St. Pierre, Anderson Silva, could probably win a boxing match with a lot of the pros out there. Not the top 100 guys, but some decent boxers.
cypresscoach 1 month ago
he should of done this 6-5 years ago lol
excelx213 1 month ago
I used to train a few MMA guys how to box, but gave up on it. I find they don't listen, aren't coachable. The biggest problem is balance. They lean forward to protect themselves from a bull rush, and that takes away their punching power. If they can learn to adjust quickly, then they can get power, but most of them come from wrestling backgrounds, so ducking down and leaning forward are their natural instincts. Makes for too many head butts in the gym.
cypresscoach 1 month ago
@cypresscoach thats my problem as well....
ThaUnknownUniverse 1 month ago
Freddie Roach is Yoda.
TheMetalsmurf 2 months ago
MMA fighters cant punch to save there ass and when the punch lands they have no chin.Every discipline they learn is exactly the way tito boxes.
TheRey4you 2 months ago
@TheRey4you Tell that to James Toney.
BTRFitness 2 months ago
@BTRFitness What do you mean??? James Toney has one of the best chins of ALL TIME! a natural 160 pounder... who's a fat FAT FAT FAT FATASS out of shape OLD OLD OLD heavyweight and has STILL never been Stopped! I think he is top 20 chins of ALL TIME! How does your comment make ANY sense!
Gooseman2k2 2 months ago
@Gooseman2k2 When he joined the MMA world they gave him a shot at an under motivated and over the hill Randy Couture who Destroyed him in the first round. Your earlier comment was talking about how MMA fighters have glass chins. MMA fans accept boxing as a great sport but boxing fans don't accept MMA as a great sport... they know the sport of MMA is a threat to future boxers.
BTRFitness 2 months ago
@BTRFitness First of all... it was NOT my comment... and yes most MMArtists do have glass chins... so what?
and let's not forget... Tim Sylvia was Knocked out cold by Ray Mercer in like 8 seconds. and this is in MMA NOT boxing... Let's see a MMArtist who is 50 years old and contender level... fat and out of shape... go into boxing and in 10 seconds finish the boxer... obviously not!
MMA WILL become a great sport... but needs time to evolve and stake out it's own talent base!
Gooseman2k2 2 months ago
@TheRey4you At least you came up with your own line and didn't just quote bob arum.
elmonomic22 1 month ago
Tito punches like Rocky Balboa....and NO...that was NOT a compliment LOL !!!!!
77GetReady 2 months ago 17
when he said that he never did boxing before i think he's was being honest and not kidding LOL
codeman95291 2 months ago
ortiz always been a sorry ass mma fighter he always gets his ass beat and boxing is a better sport than mma i like mma but i love boxing
AliRidah619 2 months ago
find me one mma fighter who looks good on the pads AND PLEASE POST. The only 2 guys are know that are any good with their combinations are KJ Noons and Nick Diaz. Timing coordination and balance and some speed are the trade marks of the best boxers in the sport. You can always find an escape route in an MMA fight (hit the ground on your back) but in boxing, hands up kid or you're gonna get KdTFO. I never MMA'd but I did wrestle in high school and I spar (boxing)
led11234 2 months ago
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TheMetalsmurf 2 months ago
@led11234 Vitor. Thanks for posting.
TheMetalsmurf 2 months ago 3
@led11234
Its a different way of fighting, when you have so many possible variations of attacks its hard to just stick to punching.
logicCplusplus 2 months ago
@led11234 your nutty man there is a lot of good mma fighters who are nice at boxing....you say "but in boxing, hands up kid or you're going to get ktfo" this is true...but in mma you have to do the same thing except i could kick you in you leg for 3 minutes in a round then going on that 4th minute i make the kick look like it's going to your leg again and rise it up to your chin
HyN0iK42 2 months ago
@HyN0iK42 yo pacquiao is the best of the best thats coming out of roach mouth. he said thats the best his ever worked with and the most gifted.
LUIBROWN17 1 month ago
those mitts almost took as hard of a pounding as jenna did in her porn career lols
bosanaczauvjek 2 months ago 35
@bosanaczauvjek Clever Clever.
operation61 2 months ago
@bosanaczauvjek She did it for the money and was smart about it with millions in her name. While your mother and your sister did it for free.
florand 1 month ago
@florand lols ok there buddy lols sound like a virgin
bosanaczauvjek 1 month ago
I agree with you guys somewhat, Lesner relies on his wrestling skills, but when someone can handle your takedowns, you don't have much, I respect the fact that Tito took boxing and Muay Thai, it's essential.
SubmissionWrestIer 2 months ago
man, look the size of his fucking head.....I bet Jenna took his head inside her !!!
hereisthankappan 3 months ago
sorry 456blaine dont get me wrong i love boxing to but most every fight goes to the ground
jdrichwine1 3 months ago
I love MMA and its great boxing is skill and if your in a street fight and you have the skill of a boxer most fights wont make it to the ground a boxer generates alot of power in that 6 inch span
456blaine 3 months ago
lol stupid guy who think mma fighter dont want to stand try getting ihit by 4 ounce glove and by elbow and knee we will see after that how you feel
bigwill9111 3 months ago
@bigwill9111 men stand and fight like men, these guys dont like the fact of having to stand on their feet and fight so they hit the ground to avoid a fight and wiggle and jiggle and play with eachother for the whole fight, that looks more like a gay porn,
LIKWITCREW1 3 months ago
@LIKWITCREW1 "men stand and fight like men"
Yeah becouse men ball up like bitches an hope not to get hit like Joshua Clottey did agaisnt Pacquiao
Victor Ortiz vs Mayweather was a prime example how "men" fight I saw kissing,hugging and a sucker punch all in one but ur right boxers do fight like "men"
And ur right boxing is skill thats why you have guy's like Ricardo Mayorga and Jean Pascal becoming WBC champions
NiggaNotes 3 months ago
@NiggaNotes but yet the ufc give brock lesnar a title shot after like 8 fights. boxing will always be better than MMA. most fights are wrestling matches anyways.
Asalgado1309 3 months ago
@Asalgado1309 naah man, im a boxing fan and a MMA fan you just gotta look at the right stuff in MMA the wrestling matches are boring as fuck but its like when people just use the jab in boxing . and btw Brock Lesnar is a fucking animal dude
xpenn420 2 months ago
@xpenn420 You mention Brock Lesnar; his problem is he doesn't know how to really box. Ortiz does the right thing when he goes to the source to learn the "Sweat 'Science." If I managed Lesnar, I would have him take 6 to 9 month off from MMA and learn,learn,learn how to box. Lesnar has lost to men who he could have beaten on the ground, but those guy had amature or professional experience in boxing, so lesnar got his clock cleaned.
dontheguy1 2 months ago
@LIKWITCREW1 If it looks like gay porn than that must be what you are looking for, Some of the best Div I wrestlers are in MMA as well as ex football players.
AdamR702 2 months ago
Boxing is a skill, the UFC is a joke by the look on Ortiz he has that look like damn this shit aint easy and roach has the look like ortiz realy sucks, UFC is for guys who cant fight and wont fight like men and stand up and throww some hands, they want to hug on the floor for 3 rounds like they doing 69,lol, when u see UFC they hate to stand and fight or get hit they are guys not built for that they have to go to the floor and make out
LIKWITCREW1 3 months ago
@LIKWITCREW1 In a real street fight that lasts any length of time you will end up on the ground. Why don't you ask you're self why highly trained soldiers don't just train boxing. It's because real fighting isn't standing there agreeing to only use your hands. Try living in the real world. It's obvious many MMA fighters really need to work on their striking, but they are lacking because of the amount of time they put into the other facets of their game. P.S. Tito looks horrible here, geez.
dietoolife 3 months ago
@LIKWITCREW1 i understand that u get that impression from some fights, some fighters do it for points, some are just tired and some dont have a clue what 2 do on the ground, but in fighting if a man takes u down and breaks ur arm it doesnt matter if hes a pussy or not he beat u, i like boxing more but u have 2 respect a guy's ability 2 break every limb of ur body, thats fighting everything goes
AintDoneYet123 3 months ago
@LIKWITCREW1 are you serious "UFC is a joke" dude you are fuckin stupid any UFC fighter would beat the shit out of a Boxer thats why its called MMA and what happend to James Toney when he fought Randy Couture got his ass whooped. FYI its not called doing a 69 its called Jujitsu
1roiboi 3 months ago
@1roiboi james toney is fucked they should put vitali klitschko vs randy not some fat ass lame ass boxer. or even some one like pacquiao vs bj penn mayweather vs gsp some young and fast and a real boxing champ not just any boxer. if pacquiao throws and moves like he does nobody can catch him in mma maybe silva or jones but thats about it the guy is so fast he even did a seven punch combo on margarito in like a sec in a half and almost ko him. and not just while punches but on the button
LUIBROWN17 3 months ago
@LUIBROWN17 - fat ass lame boxer huh? Toney is the most gifted natural boxer Freddie Roach has ever worked with (google it) Couture should have been man enough to offer a fight in the boxing ring then you would have seen a real ass whuppin' The only way an MMA can ever beat a boxer is on the ground or choke never with their hands even if they crazy punch. MMA are jacks of some trades but boxers are masters with their hands.
led11234 2 months ago
@LIKWITCREW1 trololololololo
dromezz1993 3 months ago
TITO HATERS FUCK OFF...WHERE'S CHUCK NOW???? TITO IS THE MAN, ALWAYS PROVES YOU HATERS WRONG. YOUR EVEN SAD ENOUGH TO WATCH HIS TRAINING VIDS, EVEN THO YOU CANT STAND HIM!
sionpoc69 3 months ago
damn Tito, you are awful. It's no wonder you curl up and run away like a bitch when someone hits you in the face.
TheJASM4collection 3 months ago
god tito is shit,,,i cant wait till hos next fight then he will retire,,the guy cant even beat matt hammil
davejones8 3 months ago
Eye of the Tiger by Survivor
psychophat 3 months ago
can you guys tell me what is the tittle of the theme song of this video please thank you very much
thanhphong68521 3 months ago
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Striskelion 3 months ago
this was actually the after 3 weeks in the roach gym
The first day was more like : "And that's how you make a fist "
nachoman083 3 months ago
With so many MMA fighters taking too many unnecessary punishments basically because they lack the boxing skills, this is a smart thing for Tito. Blocking punches is very important.
MrWakarimashita 3 months ago
@MrWakarimashita It's much easier for a boxer to defend because the gloves cover alot. But the MMA fighters have fist tight gloves where you can easily punch through someone's guard. What MMA fighters do need to learn is, 1: Foot movement example Paul Daley Vs Scott Smith Daley had amazing foot movement it can greatly increase KO power, 2: head movement is needed just like Brad Pickett good boxing skills, alot of MMA fighters use their heads like defence just like Arturo Gatti did RIP.
RunWhilstYouCan 3 months ago
why compare manny to ortiz? they train in different styles. it may seem the same but MMA is different from boxing. of course manny would beat ortiz in a boxing match and ortiz would win in an MMA match. its like comparing football to basketball.
Striskelion 3 months ago
@Striskelion True Football you use your feet all the time and Basketball your hands, but they both use a ball and have nets to score in so they are sorta the same.
RunWhilstYouCan 3 months ago
@RunWhilstYouCan exactly! they seem the same because you both punch. but it's very different. it's two different forms of fighting. just as football and basketball, just because you use a ball and net in both games it doesn't mean they're the same.
Striskelion 3 months ago
@Striskelion I think it would be harder for an MMA fighter at any level to beat someone like Khan or Manny. One factor being stamina these boxers can easily go 15 rounds 3 mins each round. An MMA fighter seems to have the hands down low in the 3rd round due to being gassed. A boxer could learn how to do a tired leg kick in 1 day and wrestling is a thinking game. James Toney Vs Couture is like not a good match up. But you get my logic I hope.
RunWhilstYouCan 3 months ago
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@RunWhilstYouCan yeah i get it. that's an interesting point you just made. come to think if it I can only think of several people with good cardio in MMA, ( diaz, velasquez, couture, GSP ) but most of the other guys tire out like you said.
Striskelion 3 months ago
@RunWhilstYouCan youve obviously never grappled. any professional boxer would be taken down IMMEDIATELY. its a fact, they dont have a natural scrambling ability that wrestlers and jiujitsu fighters have, taken down and mauled
lambovelvet 3 months ago
@lambovelvet I like how you dismiss standing up. You are like every other MMA fan always trying to score points with well he will just take you down. Most of the stuff done on the floor is very easy it's for children which is danger the brain and body can easily workout how to get out of it. But with most MMA guys not having the balls to stand mostly Americans they tend to dry hump for 3 rounds whilst doing a rear naked choke a move the other guy has no real control over to stop.
RunWhilstYouCan 3 months ago
@lambovelvet James Toney Vs Randy Courture is a prime example. Instead of Randy proving I'll box him and prove I am a better striker he goes straight for the take down and does a cheap rear naked choke, he did not do MMA he did JuiJitsu. There are many MMA fighters who just box or kickbox like Chuck Liddell, Brad Pickett, Paul Daley, they all have boxing stances yet they can position themselves out of instinct to not be taken down.
RunWhilstYouCan 3 months ago
Tito is slow as hell!!
MrIronbo 4 months ago
"I thought i knew boxing until i met you" GSP on Freddie Roach.
sprawlmessiah 4 months ago
Now throw Manny in there and order him to tear Ortiz apart in a hardcore sparring session hehehe
RatedRKingofKings 4 months ago
@RatedRKingofKings put manny in an mma ring with tito see how he gets on?
oasismanutd 4 months ago
@oasismanutd I think that Manny would do pretty good actually - of course, with someone his size and weight. He has a kick boxing background and he could fight one of those guys.
RatedRKingofKings 4 months ago
@RatedRKingofKings common dude,kick boxing is almost useless in MMA even anybody manny's weight would kick his ass,Manny has great hands that's it,he would be like a turtle on his back.
oasismanutd 4 months ago
Freddy is simply the best. God Bless him!
140662amarildo 4 months ago
lol tito is so fkn basic
PaRRaDoX7 5 months ago 13
@PaRRaDoX7 He never been great with stand up , he dont know how to get loose and trow combination .
bobilator1 2 months ago
thanks for reposting something from 2 years ago
8O75l 5 months ago