one of the best bands australia has produced. The most original band since propagandhi. all you cock foragers looking for folk music aren't going to understand, take a bex and have a lay down.
Mate, I went back over the song and found 13 separate mistakes on pronounciation. the first rule of a singer is to study the song and learn the words, they are wrong. They are out of key and are playing the wrong chords, not to mention that he is shouting, not singing. I have played this song all over the country and had grown men crying and I still get paid to sing it. These blokes would never be allowed to sing this at any RSL, it's a joke and an insult to the song and my intelligence.
I'm sorry. your a good cover musician and I'm sure you make a good living from this. I'm not disputing this.
This particular version though will introduce this song to a new generation that otherwise may not have given it the time of day. They're trying something new and different and I dont see the point in making disparaging comments towards them. As a musician you must have once had similar aspirations, before residing yourself to being a covers artist.
yeah your right mate, it will introduce this song to a new generation something different and reworked is always good. actually their version is not that bad, I get your point though, By the way I am not a cover musician you can check out my original songs at myspace, just add /trevorwdunen on the end anyway friend thanks for your comment and all the best for the future.
That's an absolute shocker. This is an important song, it's easy to get emotional with it, but you have missed just about every musical point to the song. How can you play that out of time? In a Hawaiian shirt?!
and which musical points are those Walter, lets run through them one by one or did you just make that up. By the way, do you play an instument, do you sing, do you have a video? When soldiers were on leave in the Nam they sometimes wore haiwaiin shirts like the one worn in the vietnam movie Apocalypse Now by Robert Duval, he also wore a cowboy hat. There was also a scene where they surfed while under fire. Looking forward to those points?
Walter, Walter, Walter, how did I know you weren't a singer or guitarist, listen son, you go back home, spend 25 years playing the guitar and singing around the country in pubs clubs and RSL's, write about 20 songs then put out a few albums and then you come back and then you can tell me I am playing out of time, get off the dope mate and go and do something apart from running people down on the internet and making critique when you have no knowledge or education in the music field! Goose.
Woops, looks like I've upset you there Wildchild. I completely forgot about the surfing scene in Apocalypse Now, you've made a really good point there.
If you're interested, the points I would make are i) try to count to 4 over and over as you play and ii) google the word 'dynamics' as it applies to music. I've played for a long time, but I don't want to have a pissing competition with you.
Whatever, you reckon Mozart, I will believe you play when you upload a video of such. Mate your ears must be a bit like Chopper Read's- painted on. If you wanna love Conation then who am I to question you. I am at ease with my playing, the fans seem to love it!
Mate I can tell you they don't know the chords and that was an absolute insult to the song and to the vets who fought in Vietnam. utter crap. I note they have only had about 1200 views in 2 years my version has had 700 hits in 2 months!
It's also true that you kiss arse to get a 'rating' out of anyone who throws you a bone. I don't like Conation's singing, but otherwise their timing and dynamics are miles better than yours. Also, they're on a stage - you're in a bedroom in your underpants - boardshorts at least man!! These guys have the chords nailed. Tap your foot, count 1,2,3,4 and listen to your piece of crap. Also, have a think about the F#m that you confuse with a D, and note that the song contains both A and Am.
Mate, your a con artist, I have no idea what your talking about in regards to the chords, I think your a bit confused but it's a good try at sounding intelligent and convincing and I don't kiss arse to get anybodies votes, I am not in my bedroom I am in a recording studio. These chords worked for me when I played it at the Battle of Long Tan Anniversary celebrations at Royal Perth Yacht Club and it also made the tail of channel nine news. You play what ever you want you little tripper!!
Check John Schumann playing the piece live on Youtube and then come back and tell me the chords are wrong, you mate are a dick head who likes to try and con us all, I doubt you play after what you have just said. Go google the song and look at some chord sites. You won't find Am in it buddy and my F#m is right where it should be sunshine. Dynamics, thats a big intelligent word, have you heard the word "WANKER"? Where is your video maestro, or a you just a big mouth talker and not a doer?
The first chord is Am. Then it uses A in the prechorus (E, D, A...). Anyway, tap your foot, count 1, 2, 3, 4, have a think about finishing a few bars and break a leg if you're out playing it this weekend.
Mate, we are not even on the same page. Like I said look at Schumann playing look it up on a chord chart. Surely your taking the piss, what the fuck are you talking about. It's played in the key of A it's that simple and there is no Am in it at all. I get the counting mate your laboring the point now. Have a look at me playing it on Youtube, I hardly think I need your advice son.
This is great. Totally in the spirit of the song. Schumann would love it.
vidiotxerox 3 days ago
one of the best bands australia has produced. The most original band since propagandhi. all you cock foragers looking for folk music aren't going to understand, take a bex and have a lay down.
mynewid666 1 year ago
no bloody respect
tuff80ute 2 years ago
I agree. I fucking love this song, but these clowns need to kick a mine. You fuckwits should be ashamed of yourselves.
ausjerome 2 years ago 2
amen to that mate, i hope he dies in a hole, he shows no bloody respect
brumster225 1 year ago
man, i like my hard rock, but that was really bad, to put i nicely.
alvanh 2 years ago
yes, I think conation should reform and play at every damm RSL in australia.
endfm 2 years ago
A clear studio version of this would be good, nice cover.
sniperbarret82 2 years ago
dont care what anyone says
best newcastle band
best cover ever
xo
alkalinebonx 3 years ago
You idiots are a disgrace to yourself and to the song, are you for real, my 12 year old son could do better, pathetic. check out -/watch?v=pJ7B5MgPEAA
that's how it's done
wildchild1962 3 years ago
Thats a bit harsh mate. This song obviously means something to them and this is their take on the classic.
I for one enjoyed this version as opposed to yours which seems like nothing more than a poorly executed copy of the original.
mitchellwilkins 2 years ago
so poorly executed I am booked out to sing it at RSL's for the next year
wildchild1962 2 years ago
Mate, I went back over the song and found 13 separate mistakes on pronounciation. the first rule of a singer is to study the song and learn the words, they are wrong. They are out of key and are playing the wrong chords, not to mention that he is shouting, not singing. I have played this song all over the country and had grown men crying and I still get paid to sing it. These blokes would never be allowed to sing this at any RSL, it's a joke and an insult to the song and my intelligence.
wildchild1962 2 years ago
I'm sorry. your a good cover musician and I'm sure you make a good living from this. I'm not disputing this.
This particular version though will introduce this song to a new generation that otherwise may not have given it the time of day. They're trying something new and different and I dont see the point in making disparaging comments towards them. As a musician you must have once had similar aspirations, before residing yourself to being a covers artist.
mitchellwilkins 2 years ago
yeah your right mate, it will introduce this song to a new generation something different and reworked is always good. actually their version is not that bad, I get your point though, By the way I am not a cover musician you can check out my original songs at myspace, just add /trevorwdunen on the end anyway friend thanks for your comment and all the best for the future.
wildchild1962 2 years ago
That's an absolute shocker. This is an important song, it's easy to get emotional with it, but you have missed just about every musical point to the song. How can you play that out of time? In a Hawaiian shirt?!
walterwatches 2 years ago
and which musical points are those Walter, lets run through them one by one or did you just make that up. By the way, do you play an instument, do you sing, do you have a video? When soldiers were on leave in the Nam they sometimes wore haiwaiin shirts like the one worn in the vietnam movie Apocalypse Now by Robert Duval, he also wore a cowboy hat. There was also a scene where they surfed while under fire. Looking forward to those points?
wildchild1962 2 years ago
Walter, Walter, Walter, how did I know you weren't a singer or guitarist, listen son, you go back home, spend 25 years playing the guitar and singing around the country in pubs clubs and RSL's, write about 20 songs then put out a few albums and then you come back and then you can tell me I am playing out of time, get off the dope mate and go and do something apart from running people down on the internet and making critique when you have no knowledge or education in the music field! Goose.
wildchild1962 2 years ago
Woops, looks like I've upset you there Wildchild. I completely forgot about the surfing scene in Apocalypse Now, you've made a really good point there.
If you're interested, the points I would make are i) try to count to 4 over and over as you play and ii) google the word 'dynamics' as it applies to music. I've played for a long time, but I don't want to have a pissing competition with you.
walterwatches 2 years ago
Whatever, you reckon Mozart, I will believe you play when you upload a video of such. Mate your ears must be a bit like Chopper Read's- painted on. If you wanna love Conation then who am I to question you. I am at ease with my playing, the fans seem to love it!
wildchild1962 2 years ago
conation are awesome.
i have met some of them rl, and this song is amazing.
also: my dad went to nam.
so STFU and love it.
<3 conation
nikudoreizero 3 years ago
Nice work , I loved it .Try starting of in quiet voice then climax it throughout with hard noise guys. But once again it was great.
saintandrews83 3 years ago
These guys made the song seem they were really pissed at being sent to Vietnam.
TWINTURBOSkyline 4 years ago
It was at cambo
punkuspee 4 years ago
one of the best hardcore bands that have played in australia in the last 10 years. and the nicest guys to boot. there is no insult in that.
dettol1 4 years ago
The insult is plain , they DONT know the words they CANT play the chords .SIMPLE.Good hardcore band ......maybe.
1808701 4 years ago
you are a fucking douche, he knows the words and can play the chords you're just a cockhead. my favourite band ever.
Call1This4Tragedy 4 years ago
Mate I can tell you they don't know the chords and that was an absolute insult to the song and to the vets who fought in Vietnam. utter crap. I note they have only had about 1200 views in 2 years my version has had 700 hits in 2 months!
wildchild1962 2 years ago
It's also true that you kiss arse to get a 'rating' out of anyone who throws you a bone. I don't like Conation's singing, but otherwise their timing and dynamics are miles better than yours. Also, they're on a stage - you're in a bedroom in your underpants - boardshorts at least man!! These guys have the chords nailed. Tap your foot, count 1,2,3,4 and listen to your piece of crap. Also, have a think about the F#m that you confuse with a D, and note that the song contains both A and Am.
walterwatches 2 years ago
Mate, your a con artist, I have no idea what your talking about in regards to the chords, I think your a bit confused but it's a good try at sounding intelligent and convincing and I don't kiss arse to get anybodies votes, I am not in my bedroom I am in a recording studio. These chords worked for me when I played it at the Battle of Long Tan Anniversary celebrations at Royal Perth Yacht Club and it also made the tail of channel nine news. You play what ever you want you little tripper!!
wildchild1962 2 years ago
Check John Schumann playing the piece live on Youtube and then come back and tell me the chords are wrong, you mate are a dick head who likes to try and con us all, I doubt you play after what you have just said. Go google the song and look at some chord sites. You won't find Am in it buddy and my F#m is right where it should be sunshine. Dynamics, thats a big intelligent word, have you heard the word "WANKER"? Where is your video maestro, or a you just a big mouth talker and not a doer?
wildchild1962 2 years ago
Yeah, con artist, starting out really small.
The first chord is Am. Then it uses A in the prechorus (E, D, A...). Anyway, tap your foot, count 1, 2, 3, 4, have a think about finishing a few bars and break a leg if you're out playing it this weekend.
walterwatches 2 years ago
Mate, we are not even on the same page. Like I said look at Schumann playing look it up on a chord chart. Surely your taking the piss, what the fuck are you talking about. It's played in the key of A it's that simple and there is no Am in it at all. I get the counting mate your laboring the point now. Have a look at me playing it on Youtube, I hardly think I need your advice son.
wildchild1962 2 years ago
You're welcome, good luck with it.
walterwatches 2 years ago
Good luck to you too mate, all the best thanks for the healthy debate!
wildchild1962 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Yes, a fellow musician who knows crap when he sees it.
wildchild1962 2 years ago
Absolute insult to one of the finest songs ever written in Australia
Atleast learn how to pronounce the words.
1808701 4 years ago
where's the insult? a band playing a song they love and respect and doing it in their own idiom isn't an insult, it's homage. Conation are tops.
ManIsTheBastard 4 years ago
Yes, a fellow musician who knows crap when he sees it.
wildchild1962 2 years ago