And, hundreds of years later, the guilt he felt because of this, buried and growing for years under different faces and personalities, would burst to the surface on Mars, overwhelm him completely, and give us, for just a few minutes, the Time Lord Victorious.
In this moment of loneliness he even contemplates going home - but the painfull realization then dawns on him - even that option is not available to him. Powerful stuff indeed, real pain in his voice.
...but there is another side to that, too--the Doctor HAS INDEED participated in history, in ways that changed entire planets. This was evidenced in the series where the Doctor took on a de facto Egyptian deity trapped on Mars. His companion wanted to go home and get out rather than confront the villain...so the Doctor took her there. The planet was barren. If they hadn't taken on the monster, there would be no home for her. (This one got to the cutting edge of the no do-over rule.)
One of the recurring themes of "Doctor Who" is the tension between The Doctor's High-and-Mighty Time Lord mores about non-interference and slinking around time on the one hand and his concern for his fellow sentients on the other. A good example of this is the one where they covered the volcanic eruption on Santiago, where the Doctor was about to leave a family to die in the blast, but his companion convinced him to save them.
"my dear Steven, history sometimes gives us a terrible shock. And that is because we don't quite fully understand. Why should we? After all, we're all too small to realise it's final pattern. Therefore don't try to judge it from where you stand. I was right to do as I did. Yes, that I firmly believe."
Thanks for this treat. I completely agree with your commentary. We saw as time went on the Doctor being wistful at times about his life. The 7th Doctor's farewell to Mel comes to mind. "Think of me will you? The lonesome traveller in his Police Box, his days like crazy paving." And as for leaving destruction in his wake, a number of companions have taken him to task. Tegan really gave the fifth Doctor a sweetly bitter farewell at seeing people die. "It stopped being fun Doctor!
quite an eye opener, especially how he says none of them understanding why he left, and that he actually for a split second thought about going back to gallifrey
Only Steven comes back a few minuets later and we meet Dodo who seems to be a descendant of Anne the girl Steven thought died.Kind of softens the drama a bit.
Cool - five star devastating scene. It's on audio book, as is The Myth Makers and The Ark is on video. After seeing the deaths of Bret, Katarina and Sara and this happening to Ann I think it was Steven who understood the consequences of being close to the Doctor long before Rose or Matron Redfern. Pity The Savages is missing.
This is especially pertinent and heartrending after The Waters of Mars. Thanks for putting this up - I am constantly amazed by the continuity of the old series with the new (or perhaps that should be the new series with the old).
this is an amazing scene. It shows how truly dramatic and character driven the series was back in the old days. The new series has much in common with the early years as far a character driven stories go. It wasn't until later that the plots in Who became more formulaic.
Thank you for putting this up, this is loose cannon could you put some more clips from various loose cannon recons up please, i would apreciate it such as Dalek's master plan, the space pirates, galaxy 4, the reign of terror,the ice warriors, the myth makers?????????
And, hundreds of years later, the guilt he felt because of this, buried and growing for years under different faces and personalities, would burst to the surface on Mars, overwhelm him completely, and give us, for just a few minutes, the Time Lord Victorious.
That poor man. That poor, lonely man.
thatwhichisgiven 1 week ago
In this moment of loneliness he even contemplates going home - but the painfull realization then dawns on him - even that option is not available to him. Powerful stuff indeed, real pain in his voice.
CrystalblueMage 2 weeks ago
...but there is another side to that, too--the Doctor HAS INDEED participated in history, in ways that changed entire planets. This was evidenced in the series where the Doctor took on a de facto Egyptian deity trapped on Mars. His companion wanted to go home and get out rather than confront the villain...so the Doctor took her there. The planet was barren. If they hadn't taken on the monster, there would be no home for her. (This one got to the cutting edge of the no do-over rule.)
cpuwrite 1 month ago
One of the recurring themes of "Doctor Who" is the tension between The Doctor's High-and-Mighty Time Lord mores about non-interference and slinking around time on the one hand and his concern for his fellow sentients on the other. A good example of this is the one where they covered the volcanic eruption on Santiago, where the Doctor was about to leave a family to die in the blast, but his companion convinced him to save them.
cpuwrite 1 month ago
My God, the Doctor all by himself...amazingly powerful, magical stuff!
straker2 1 month ago
This is one of the stories I wish the most still existed in the archives so we could see it for real. *sighs*
BinroWasRight 2 months ago
Thank you for uploading this.
LegoDaleks 2 months ago
"my dear Steven, history sometimes gives us a terrible shock. And that is because we don't quite fully understand. Why should we? After all, we're all too small to realise it's final pattern. Therefore don't try to judge it from where you stand. I was right to do as I did. Yes, that I firmly believe."
TroughtonLover94 7 months ago
What episodes are the clips from?
MasterKasterborous 7 months ago
John,
Thanks for this treat. I completely agree with your commentary. We saw as time went on the Doctor being wistful at times about his life. The 7th Doctor's farewell to Mel comes to mind. "Think of me will you? The lonesome traveller in his Police Box, his days like crazy paving." And as for leaving destruction in his wake, a number of companions have taken him to task. Tegan really gave the fifth Doctor a sweetly bitter farewell at seeing people die. "It stopped being fun Doctor!
WC3POchannel10A 1 year ago 2
AWESOME! bravo Bill Hartnell
boodat77 1 year ago
quite an eye opener, especially how he says none of them understanding why he left, and that he actually for a split second thought about going back to gallifrey
dutchycooper 1 year ago
even chetterton he never got his name right
cybertaylor 1 year ago 3
tbh i only liked the last scene where dodo joined the rest of it is absolutlly boring
Paramore4evaneva 1 year ago
Only Steven comes back a few minuets later and we meet Dodo who seems to be a descendant of Anne the girl Steven thought died.Kind of softens the drama a bit.
EJDW 2 years ago
Cool - five star devastating scene. It's on audio book, as is The Myth Makers and The Ark is on video. After seeing the deaths of Bret, Katarina and Sara and this happening to Ann I think it was Steven who understood the consequences of being close to the Doctor long before Rose or Matron Redfern. Pity The Savages is missing.
flashrobbie 2 years ago
This is especially pertinent and heartrending after The Waters of Mars. Thanks for putting this up - I am constantly amazed by the continuity of the old series with the new (or perhaps that should be the new series with the old).
robinalaska12 2 years ago
Dr Who has never been a powerful as this. Imo.
JAYROX1969 3 years ago
Doctor Who is the best;)
VeroNika654 3 years ago 2
@VeroNika654 Massacre is Hartnell's best story and the 3rd best ever, after Troughton's Dalek stories. For me anyway.
breaks0 1 year ago
this is an amazing scene. It shows how truly dramatic and character driven the series was back in the old days. The new series has much in common with the early years as far a character driven stories go. It wasn't until later that the plots in Who became more formulaic.
BabetteBombshell 3 years ago 2
Thank you for putting this up, this is loose cannon could you put some more clips from various loose cannon recons up please, i would apreciate it such as Dalek's master plan, the space pirates, galaxy 4, the reign of terror,the ice warriors, the myth makers?????????
Frestare 3 years ago
I think the end of Fires of Pompeii is a good example of a similar scene in the new series
Stuartdouglas19 3 years ago
This was an excellent scene they should anmate ths and all the mssing who,s, oh t's loose canon have this one!
Frestare 3 years ago
One of the greatest scenes from DW. It's such a pity this was wiped.
I think the reconstruction is from Loose Canon.
smegaroon14 3 years ago 2