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  • Looks like Jon and Matt are a yin and yang duality in themselves - Jon as the shadow, and Matt the light here.

    Oh sheesh, I just realized this is Sawyer, as in Sawyer 2005, who wrote 'Social Emergence' -- wow, awesome, found his book in the library as a soph in college and was one of the first to interest me in complexity, emergence, the mirco-marco split, upward/downward causality, etc.  nniiccee.

  • I love Matts facial reactions sometimes.

  • This guy is great. And btw nice eyes jon!

  • quality show you guys are putting together.

  • Great interview.

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