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  • it was leaked now xD Square-Enix must be soooo angry...

  • Quite frankly, I'd be honored if someone loved my work so much that they took the time to make their own sequel. It's not like they're charging anyone for it, and it's obvious that it's a fan game and not an official release. It sucks that this game will never get the attention it deserves.

  • Why can't Square-Enix let gamers have their fun with making their own fan-made versions of Chrono Trigger? What are they afraid of? Do they really think people will try to make a profit from it? They would be in a world of trouble if they tried to make their own profit from it. They're making rom hacks because us gamers are fuckin' bored! Plus, it kills time while waiting for the next big official game. Square-Enix, PLEASE let us gamers have our fun without you ruining it with your C&D letters.

  • Fuck yeah,the argument looks interesting!

  • How awesome that this got leaked. That was pretty sick of SE to drop the C&D on those guys one day before their announced release date. They could have at least dropped the bombshell before they put five years of work into it.

    I just started playing it and it's awesome so far!

  • well alienboya, id like u to try to make a game.

  • Squaresoft > Square-Enix

  • TOMA NO CU SQUARE VAI DA A BUNDA IA GANHAR MILOHES COM ISSO VAI TOMAR NO Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu obs: VAI TOMAR NO CU OLHA O CHRONO RESSURECTION TBM PASSAI MAL KNDO DESCOBRI O DESASTRE T.T

  • uh dude?? where r u supposed to get it?

  • Ok so in two years Chrono mustof saed his mom form the portal..wherever she ended up

  • Very nice..Thank you Square-Enix..You must be still laughing your ass off.."Hehe we let them do this almost five years then it was fun to shut them down"Before I had no interest of hacking but thanks to you Square-Enix..I downloaded every Chrono Trigger hacking software I could find!I dont know anything about hacking,but I will learn!So one more hacker will be born..And I dont think I`m the only one..

  • @koippis Everyone you gotta read this! Read on UTurrent you can get the Beta Version of Crimson Echoes but the only difference is that there is ALOT of bugs Once you save on a Part you can not go back from it

  • @koippis

    you are right ! a lot of people are learning,reverse engineering the game to understand how it can be hacked !

  • legal

  • ew....fanfiction.....

  • I fuckn HATE square enix they dont even make good games at all,its always dumb shit that feels half done.On top of things they shut this game down bunch of fuckn asshole.I forever hate square now, they were so much more better when they were just Square Soft. I dont get it Square Soft was good Enix was good lets fuse them together and some how you get shit.

    FUCK U SQUARE ENIX.

  • Fucking greedy corporate money grubbing cocksuckers treating FANS of THEIR games like SHIT! Giving C&D's to EVERY FAN project they can find! And for what "good cause" do they shut the fan projects down? BECAUSE THEY ARE TO FUCKING LAZY TO DEVELOP A DECENT SEQUEL!!! These big-shot game devs can't come up with ANYTHING except BULLSHIT! And WTF do they do when fans of their games try to IMPROVE on the original? THEY START SHITTING THEMSELVES LIKE BABIES THROWING C&D'S AROUND LIKE CONFETTI!!!!!!!!

  • Whoa, calm down mothafucker

  • @jeremycarrier I AM calm! It's just that stuff like that really pisses me off. People actually make and sometimes sell fangames in Japan and game devs don't give a shit, so why the fuck can't people in the US, huh? Nah, we just get C&D all the time we try to improve on the originals, even though we're not gonna sell 'em like the Japanese.........

  • u should make a sequel to chrono cross, and make it so that all the main characters meet together in time =D

  • I would like to know who exactly mad crimson echoes i am a MAJOR FAN of the chron series and i would be ecatatic to talk to the person

  • 1. Retitle the project.

    2. Change all the credits to fake names.

    3. File a police report that your hard drive was stolen with the gold version of the game on it.

    4. Put out a statement that the leaked gold version is stolen property.

    Walk away and hopefully avoid legal problems....

    ;-)

  • I could steal that hard drive!

  • excellent job! as a LONG time fan and also radical dreamer...i am not sure SE could have done much better and...let's face it...with this story line, music and engine this game could have been a potent franchise replacing FF and other games. thanks

  • To basically restate what everyone has said, nowhere in copyright law does it explicitly state that intellectual property can be used for non profit projects; also they could have sued for using the same music (copyright infringement dipshits)

  • Hahaha... any of these kids who are complaining that Square did something wrong are a bunch of ignorant fools. Clearly it is illegal to hack a game and then alter it; if it weren't, Square wouldn't have been able to issue a cease and desist statement you fucking morons. In fact, any time you do that it's illegal... the only reason Square went after this particular project was because they probably felt like their IP was being diluted and/or misrepresented.

  • Most interesting, indeed!

  • Is it actually illegal to make a rom hack?

  • That's still something that's up in the air. romahcking has always treaded lightly on the toes of the law; I am however glad that this whole thign did not go to court because it would have set a very restrictive legal precedent had the creator lost the case.

  • In any case, I'm under the impression that this is a mod, free to use. If that's the case, then it isn't stealing because its free, and would probably increase the original game's sales as there couldn't have been such a great mod without such a great game! Btw, I bought my copy of chrono trigger sacred, think before speaking. *Or typing*

  • So, if Magus is alive, why is Glenn in human form again? I thought the spell on him would only be reversed if Magus died, like he said in the Northern Cliffs (or whatever the place was called) in 12,000B.C.

    Plus in the trailer they have Frog as a frog again. Must suck to be turned back into that. Spend ten years of your life as a frog and then once you're human again, back to being a frog.

    Shame it got shut down though, I really would've liked to play this.

  • After you defeat Magus in the game the curse doesn't lift from Frog. You just get an amulet

  • Great explanation of yourself, saves us a lot of trouble. :D

  • Your welcome have fun playing your stolen game.

  • Who cares about emulation? Not like there making any money off the game anyway. Yeah I can see pirating a Wii or PS3 game but a Super Nintendo game? They stoped making those almost 15 years ago, its not like there losing money off of it.

  • You would think a bright ass bulb would blink "on" in squareenix mind. Hey this is turning into an awesome game, we should actually make this.

    But hell no! ever since their merger, they now produce subpar quality games.

    I miss squaresoft.

  • where can i down load chrono trigger 1002 ad demo

  • Who went and butchered Chrono Trigger? Go SE I hate this crap.

  • i finished the original game if your asking that i havent played the demo

  • ive just downloaded it, do i need a snes emulator or wot cuz i cant start it

  • how else will you play it?

  • so r u saying yes i need SNES emulator cuz i cant tell if ur being sarcy or not?

  • srry

    Yes you need one id go with zsnes if not snes9x

  • yeah... uh i suggest snes9x

  • I downloaded this game but am unable to complete it due to a problem with the 1999 map when needing to help the central regime. Has anyone been able to successfully complete it?

  • well ever since they went squareenix they got more copyrightable than ever when they were squaresoft they said and i quote "we allow fan versions of chrono trigger and any other game we have release" cause i was gonna make one and a sent a letter back before they went enix...

  • Can you link me to that. It would be very helpful. I know they didn't mind the translation hacks for the unreleased final fantasies back in the day

  • I am pirating their games as well. Fuck them. They weren't trying to profit or anything, I followed that shit for so long and mother fuck I check up on it and it's ruined all to hell.

    We buy their shit. We play their shit. Now we want something better than shit.

  • If this is goona make you pirate then you were already pirating buddy i hope the cops come and bust you for this.

  • Oh, let me try.

    If my comment is goona make you comment stupid shit then you were already saying stupid shit buddy i hope you walk into traffic for this.

    And stop sending me fucking messages on your sockpuppets; I've already put up two torrents that are my original games. Am I in it for the money? No, so take your holier-than-thou bullshit somewhere else because I ain't buying.

  • Yeah, you did, actually. You're not sitting atop some mountain of chivalric morality here, kiddo, a black market (which software piracy falls under) occurs when normal people are unsatisfied with the "white" market either because the products provided are worthless and of lesser quality or they desire illegal content. This particular romhack falls under the former category.

    Learn how a free market works, because this was bound to happen sooner or later.

  • Stealing is stealing so don't give me your shit and keep doing illegal stuff i really don't care i just hate how you try to justifie your actions. OHH A COMPANY IS SHITTING ON ME CUZ THEY OWN THE GAME HEEHEH TIME TO DOWNLOAD IT SO THEY DON"T GET MY MONEY.

  • from a criminal justice grad student, this is not stealing. as long as the person (s) who are making this "mod" (and im sure they do) own this game it is completely legal as long as they do no sell their "mod" for profit. (and as long as the people who receive the "mod" own the original game also. the reason why SE was able to shut down this project is because they proved that a majority of people who would get this would not own it and therefore got it shut down.

  • Everyone should chill. Dosn't matter too much if it's legal or not, me and my friends pirate tons of things and havn't been arrested. If you wave a CD in front of a cop and say "HEY! WANT A WINDOWS VISTA BOOTLEG" there will be problems.

    Enjoy the game for what it is. Chillax.

    Now that I mention it, the last 15 youtube comments I've made have been for diplomatic causes in the comments. This is futile :/

  • Idonno how much stuff you download but the more you do it the more risk you do run of getting caught but owell have fun.

  • Hey, "xsacred24x?" I didn't make this. It's not my mod, I'm not affiliated in any way with the development team behind Crimson Echoes. I have, however, made a game using a legal copy of a game engine and did the entire thing for fun and to share with people. Why? Because I'm not a money-grubbing fuck who would bust a nut over a mod for a game that I produced in the fucking NINETIES. Crimson Echoes even encouraged people to buy Square's shit, so I don't see why you've opened your thundercunt, son

  • Lol this is not pirating. The guy has remade the game into a sequel, and he's not profiting from it. It's LEGALLY covered under fair use laws as long as he doesn't try to sell it, he gives credit to the original creators for their work, AND he releases the game only as a patch and NOT a .smc file.

    Search youtube for "mario hack" or "metroid hack" or something, you will see there are hundreds of quality remade versions of both those games.

  • Also, this person speaks the truth. Anyone who thinks that modifying a game is software piracy is ignorant, plain and simple.

  • Um, no. You clearly have no legal experience and are speaking purely out of ignorance. I'll start off by saying that I'm an IP attorney who has been practicing for 7 years. Square-Enix owns all IP related to Chrono Trigger... the folks who made this hack don't own any of it, nor is it in the public domain. SE wants to control how their IP is being used. When kids hack a game and release it, especially in such a way that causes brand confusion, this is indeed illegal.

  • Also, there is a difference between promotion and diluting IP. If someone made a Chrono Trigger fan page with art ripped from the game, it helps promote the game, and there's no confusion as to whether or not SE had involvement with this project. SE has no reason to try and shut this down. However with a game hack, it can be unclear to some as to whether or not this was a sanctioned SE product. Thus it dilutes the IP.

  • SE, like every other company out there, wants to protect its brand identity and IP. So to those complaining about this, why don't you stop complaining and try making your own game? Is it because you're so terribly uncreative and unoriginal that you can't? Well, then don't complain that someone who actually took the time to "create" something doesn't want you just ripping their work and using it how you please. Hate to break it to you, but the law is on their side, not your's.

  • SO yeah. all those diablo II mods, morrowind mods etc. are illegal? Brilliant thinking, there ole chap. I do not believe you are a lawyer, just an opinionated mess.

  • Apparently you know nothing about intellectual property law. There are other forms of IP use that are illegal beyond whether or not you make money off of it... For example, if you use material in such a way that misrepresents or dilutes the original IP, you can indeed be sued. There are a lot of hacks that are illegal, but the company has no interest going after them because it's not worth their time. There was probably some reason they chose to go after this one in particular.

  • Oh boo hoo. I'm so sure that a bunch of dumb fankids pirating their games is going to make a dent in sales. They've been dealing with piracy for ages, and they're still making profit.

    Moral of the story: When you make a project out of something that doesn't belong to you, you always run of the risk of getting sued. So here's an idea: create your own project with material that... wow... BELONGS TO YOU. Hahaha...

  • This is so true. I don't care how long someone followed a fan project... at the end of the day, it's still just that: a fan project. They didn't own the material, they have no claim to it and no right to be upset.

  • I'd just like to say that I HATE SQUENIX.

  • fuck squenix.

  • Glenn looks cool in his human form here :)

  • A ideia é legal, mas acho que as músicas podiam ter ficado do jeito original...

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  • fucking Squeenix

    if they hadn't said in the readme that rom hacking was illegal they wouldn't have said anything. =/

  • Eh, I doubt that. Square-Enix probably had an eye on this project for a long time.

  • The motherfuckers should have sent a C&D earlier, then. They're cocksuckers for letting it go til 98% finished before getting the letter out. Fuck them.

  • Let's cry some more. At the end of the day, when you try to make a project out of something that wasn't your's to begin with, you always run the risk of running into legal battles with whoever owns that IP. If I were them, I wouldn't want a bunch of dumb fankids diluting my IP either... Did it even occur to you that maybe they didn't send a C&D until they caught wind of it, or until it gained enough notoriety that SE even cared to do anything about it?

  • Uhhh, everybody knew about the project already and somebody at squeenix should have been able to find it by then. Anyway, I posted this 2 months ago, and since then it's been leaked onto the net so I really don't care. I still think Squeenix pulled a dick move.

  • Since Square Enix won't work on a new Chrono Trigger game, let the fans work on it.

  • this C&D is a very sad a crude move on Square's behalf but if this inspires gamers everywhere to make their own mods then it might be a good thing in the long run.

    DOWNLOAD TEMPORAL FLUX BEFORE IT'S GONE!!

    START YOUR OWN FAN-FICTION GAME!!

    SQUARE-ENIX CAN'T POSSIBLY SUE EVERYONE!!!

    FIGHT THE POWER!!!

  • @Linguine86 you mean that if we work together, we can beat square?

  • Chrono's new portait looks great, except the right eye is off :p

    ..and sucks what happened.

  • t(o.o)t fuck square enix

    money grubbing jew bastards

    ITS CALLED CREATIVE COMMONS LICENSE IT ENABLES US TO REMIX TITLES FOR NO CURRENCY WHATSOEVER. YOU DON'T SEE VALVE TRACKING DOWN ON THE MOD COMMUNITY FOR REMIXING THERE GAMES.

  • It's a fan-based project, and there's tons of clones online who use tons of final fantasy and other Square/Enix (they should never have been together in the first place) characters, maps, mods, etc. yet this one gets taken down just because people actually like it and want to play it.

  • I think even a big munny grubbing company would own it to itself to respect the wishes of so many of it's fans, and at the very least come up with a sequel of it's own, if they so hate the idea that the fans start to help themselfes. While there are legal problems distrubuting ROMs and such, I am more than just sympathetic. It's a *fan* production for crying out loud. It's free advertising and *such* an honor to the company and people who created the original. You would thing they have a heart.

  • the sad thing is, it's strictly prohibited to reverse engineer, manipulate etc :(.

  • Fuck you, Squaresoft..

  • Much as I dislike the implications of the C&D and the loss of this fantastic project (download Temporal Flux ASAP folks, to preserve a copy of it), I can't argue with them really. Unlike other fan projects such as the Chrono Trigger Novel project, Crimson Echos and projects like it modify what is, in actuality, the direct property of Square Enix, the code behind the game, not to mention its music, graphics, dialog, etc.

    But then I'm made to wonder... is fanfiction TERRIBLY different from this?

  • whats Temporal Flux ?

  • No it's not. Squeenix are cocksuckers. The least they could do is have bought this off of the modders for a small fee, spent a month finishing and patching it up, and selling it as a sequel.

    Why wouldn't they just do that? They should fuck RIGHT off.

  • Why the hell would they want to buy this crappy hack off of the modders, and spend time and resources finishing it (not to mention porting and all of the other myriad tasks that come with game distribution that you clearly have no understanding of)? Not to mention the fact that it's not in their agenda to release a crappy fangame sequel? My goodness...

  • No, no. It's Square-Enix now. Squaresoft used to be a BETTER company before this fucking fusion... lol

  • enix kills square!

  • no, they were dicks beforehand too D=

  • that's it. im never buying a squaresoft title again!

    first chrono resurrection and now this!

    fuck em, i'm downloading every game from now on! YOU HEAR ME?!

    This is a 13 year old game!!! WTH ARE YOU BITHCING ABOUT?!!

    IF YOU STOP OTHERS FROM MAKING REMAKES AND SEQUELS,

    MAKE A DAMN SEQUEL REMAKE YOURSELF!!!

    DO IT !! YOU WANT MONEY RIGHT?! GREEDY BASTARDS.

  • hah I completely agree. I hate Square now anyway, ever since FFX-2 and FF12 they started making shitty games one after another, and their greed knows no bounds.

    last game I enjoyed from Square was FF10. After that I just lost faith

  • That they keep releasing games hardly means that their "greed knows no bounds..." T_T

    Don't lose your common sense in the heat of the moment.

  • I understand your points Kitsune, but I just think that Square is pushing it a little bit too far with cancelling a project which was *almost finished*.

    Did you even think of those poor guys who spent countless hours and dedication for making this, then out of nowhere, the "righteous" Square comes and destroys their work...

    I'd be royally pissed if I was one of the developers.

    I said they were greedy cause this game is old as hell and they still dont wanna let it go.

  • i just think there is a seperate legal department in SE that takes care of this kind of stuff, and have little to no connection with the rest of the company.

    They should have just claimed it and sold it the normal way, so at least we would be able to play it.

  • I think they purposely wait until the project is almost finished... it happened to Malignant Variation some years ago too.

  • Well, perhaps the "developers" should have thought about the fact that they were making a game out of intellectual property that didn't even belong to them before they invested "countless hours and dedication." Maybe they should have invested hours and effort into something... original. There's a concept.

  • I agree, I'm going to pirate their games from now on as well. Fuck em.

  • i hope one of the beta testers leak the demo, it will be a shame, those hard work years of development to be trout out to the garbage.

  • I like how Magus scares a beast and it screams like a girl. AAAHHHHH!

  • The text is hard to read because it is going by too fast.

  • the farthest I have gotten was after you save Schala and you are to go to the middle ages to recruit the Human form of Glenn...After that nothing else.

  • awesomeseven u need to download :1)a Snes emulator 2)the Lunar IPS program and the two demos from chrono compedium(crimson echoes section).You also need to have the original snes Chrono Trigger rom.(just google all these,easy to find).the demos are IPS patches so u have to use the lunar IPS to patch the demo(i recommend the second one) on the original chrono trigger rom.after u've done these just load the rom on the emu and enjoy :D

  • so is this game finished yet???

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  • Check out crimsonechoes . com

  • Nice Work, Man!!

  • My game freezed at Dactyls Nest top...

    Great game! the story is nice!

  • okay, i want to play this, but i am a simpleton. can someone tell me where to go to get the programs or whatever i need to play this? help me out and you will have my eternal gratitude (and i might send money, if you like)

  • glenns writing is out of character.

  • well the retranslation of CT kinda matches his actual character also i like the scene were that bull comes mean then magus gives a cold stare and the bull runs like a little girl

  • where did he get the music from?

  • this is meant to be a prequel that fits in between the two parts. it also justifies this whole thing in detail

  • ???

  • What's the word on this? Is if finished or close to be finished?

  • Wow so you hacked a development?

  • chrono compendium did it

  • so....you just hacked the origial?

  • That's interesting

  • a lil rough around the edges but i'd play this it looks fun!

  • dont get yous hopes up lol the demo if its here but..it hasent been ready ti this year it was made in...in 2007 to my knowledge but puts things into wonder when the 1st crono was made then compare how many years to its relase and then there u have it

  • Blew me away I can't wait for this it looks so awesome

  • When's the release of the hack?

  • Chrono Trigger in Nintendo DS is coming out soon!

  • December! Can't wait.

  • i need help to install

  • Should've left Crono's mother stranded in the space-time continuum.

    hehehe

  • They will not get a cease and desist letter because they won't charge for it, unlike those idiots from Chrono Break who were going to sell it independently.

  • You mean Chrono Resurrection? Chrono Break was a copyright that S-E had but dropped for reasons unknown.

  • Whoa! This looks great!

  • they wont say n=nothing im sure.Their a nice organization who loves this stuff.They dont mind at all.

  • I agree with monkey boy, please let everyone read what is in the word box. I wish i could read faster but im lazy.

  • Oh, by Chrono Compendium. Yeah--they just add things to the storyline--they use hacks, kind of, and they edit the story from what is in the game to make more sense of it.  Magus' run was pretty cool. You should check it out, they recently made a retranslated version that is as close to the Japanese version as possible, it's great.

  • the word boxes r moving to fast. dont have time to read

  • well i beat the game on moded x box and if you do alot of thing weird stuff happens how many of you guys found the rainbow shell if u get it toma has to die

  • Where do you get this rom I tried Patching it and its still the same.

  • Brings back some good memories of the original Chrono Cross and Chrono Trigger. I praise and envy you, man. I am planning a sequel of Chrono Cross with graphics of my own design :) Keep up the amazing work

  • do you started working on it?

  • so,is this like a rom or something? is there a way i get get my hands on this?

  • i really enjoyed playing thru the demos =P

  • It seems Magus's frog-spell had caused Glenn to only speak in old English. Now he's back talking normal again. That or those 1000 AD'ers wore off on him...that or...

    lol...

  • Does the project leader even get on anymore?

  • Chrono'99 is reviving it. We're going to see where it can go from there, and just deal with the corruption as it comes.

  • Well then tell Zeality that, because your guys' project is in the dead project section on Chrono Compendium.

  • This is real, it's called being "a fan-made project" Well it was real. The project was announced as a dead project this year, on the Chrono Compendium site. I just found out last week.

  • Eh, I'm a member of the remaining team, and WE haven't given up yet!

  • where can i obtain the hack?

  • is this even real i beat chrono trigger i been waiting for a sequel but it was radial dreamers is this just made up?

  • It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, there's more than one person you can talk to. Try talking across the counter, even if it looks like the person's too far away.

  • When I deliver the card to Medina ferryman´s wife, what should I do next? because I try to get back, but the monster in the ferry says "medina ferry is under repair.Come back tomorrow". I´m stuck.

  • sorry, it says "The Choras ferry is under repair. Come back tomorrow"

  • *sigh* It's been so long since I worked on that team...

    I wonder how far they've gotten. Seems they've progressed a bit since I left, but they have a lot of the old stuff I worked on still in.

  • Riddle me this: who unregistered your account from the Compendium?

  • Wasn't me, oddly.

  • I'm stuck at the part after Dalton flies off. Where do I go after that?

  • Go behind the mountain to the west. There's a hidden entrance there.

  • i got the demo and im playing this game but i need some information for the first chapter.

  • sweet

  • This isn't real, obviously but it looks so interesting... I want to try it... D: Anyone willing to message me with a link or something to the demo?

  • HOW THE FUCK DID THE PERSON MAKE OR GOT DIS VIDEO?!?! AND I REALLY------- WANT THIS GAME! if it exists.... but does it exist?! I hope this video or game exists cause i really want to play a Chrono Tigger 2

  • theyre just gonna get sued by square enix for stealing their chars

  • only if they are selling them, which they are not. Everyone sue for stupid reasons, and win because they have money

  • You're an idiot who has no idea how law works.

    IPS patches/ROM hacks are perfectly legal.

  • 1002...hah!

    Nice, Its like a whole new game....

  • figure that all out by yourself chosen one... what a dumbass next time dont state the obvious

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  • well all you need is an emulator, download Chrono Trigger, then download this. People, that are not from Square, are working on this and IM NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHO THERE ARE, since I forgot also square are gonna make them stop. Even though its completely free.