and olso german pilots were great againts allied pilots.allied pilotshad inferior skills.later war,germany suffered lack of pilot training and these new pilots were outnumbered 1to20.thats all dont think u won the war because of your troops' abilities only quantity of allies.
U.S. Strategically defeated the lufwaffe and bombed the factories,and oil fields. They couldn't fight without the aforementioned three.
Russia bore the brunt of the ground fighting, but many more Russians were killed then Germans.
Russia would have been in deep trouble without U.S because Germany would have been able to manufacture more aircraft, and focus more of their efforts on the eastern front. Russia probably would have been overwhelmed.
Red army used Pe-2 to bomb factories. They were very fast, but in small numbers, and had a small payload. According to German reports, Russian bombing destroyed less than 1% of factories. Russian bombing was ineffective towards factories. They had some, but small, success with oil reserves.
@neomuttley Oh Come on, theyre not saying that, they are saying that since russians cant design a plane, take a tour of Russia instead and get some Russian bitches cuz theyll do anything to come to the states. Not a single word about an airplane mentioned.
Russia today is a land of suffering for the vast majority of its citizens. Searing, oppressive poverty rules most lives. YOU could just as easily have been handed that hand by fate, young man. Your empathy needs work. Who knows? Perhaps YOUR luck is about to run out?
@neomuttley That is right, I do knot know my fate, and either do you. But I do know where I am heading and where I come from, I come from a family of engineers. and I dont believe in Communism.
What does any of that have to do w/your gross insensitivity to the suffering of others??? Not a lick. You post like a tween. In which case. You've very little idea about where you are heading. Let alone where you will end up. You might want to start learning now...
@neomuttley Oh Mofrere!, are we talking about my gross insensitivity to suffering, or an attempt in interpreting your lamen view on anything relevant to this video? Would you like a cup of wake up da fuck up, LOL. And No, I would care very little to know about you, from your two lines of ignorance, I find no intellect whatsoever. In retro, you find mine engaging, you dimwit, Whats has yo mama taught ya? not a HOE LoT!
@neomuttley Oh Mofrere!, are we talking about my gross insensitivity to suffering, or an attempt in interpreting your lamen view on anything relevant to this video? Would you like a cup of wake up da fuck up, LOL. And No, I would care very little to know about you, from your two lines of ignorance, I find no intellect whatsoever. In retro, you find mine engaging, you dimwit, Whats has yo mama taught ya? not a HOE LoT!
you know what? the same can be said about your country. The Gini-coefficent (as in the difference between the rich and poor) says a lot. Although Russia is worse (the rich there really are vulgar and like tacky things), you're not exactly in the 1950's or 1960's any more.
Last time I checked you have to pay both for higher education and medical care. Which means that those poor people working low paid jobs are pretty much stuck there. Never mind that scum, right?
Hi, I'm not sure what you're replying to. The wage disparity & associated evils of my country? No argument. Only the top 15% of the economic tree is happy about the status quo. Overall, the Fifties & Sixties were great times. There was a lot of evil, yes. The evil hadn't won yet, though. Kindly pick a topic I disagree w/you on to argue about :-).
Fw 190 A is a most beautiful fighter of WW2 for me! I don't understant anything from the video, but I read that Russians tested the 190 a lot, and they thought it's no good. It was maybe because they captured mainly old planes, and also german industry was very low on quality in late WW2, due to allied bombing.
@ahbahpuh - Wow, did not know that. To be honest, it was just my hypothesis. i thought that because without Britain, there would be no wasted resources and there would be no daylight or night time bombing from allies on German factories. Also Germany had to move forces back and forth wasting time and manpower >.<
@Acornoa Not so Canada was Heavy into shipping food ammo planes troops and more to england while the usa was trading with england and cut that into half when war was with japan 1941
@vonFisch Alright I will tell you, America sent thousands of long range bombers each day pounding Germany. Without that Germany would of focused thousands of defensive fighters which were defending the homeland to Russia. Without U.S D-day would have not existed and Russia certainly would not have been able to handle that task.
Britian would have ran out of supplies, and Germany would have taken over Britian, and Japan would have eventually invaded Russia
@TheRealHawkeye@TheRealHawkeye Well you wrote "Without America, Germany would have had no problem taking out Russia", which is stupid, let me explain it to you. USA bombing offensive increased and started to be a big issue for Germany in late 1943, it was when Germany already lost the war in east. USSR weren't also in '44 in deserate need of second front like they were in '42. I fully respect USA contibution to winning the war in Europe, but it wasn't just them.
Sorry, but on D-day there were around 60 German divisions in France, compared to the over 240 German divisions on the huge Eastern Front. Look that up in any good book written about WW2. Please do. That was the main front of the war as far as Hitler and Nazi Germany was concerned. You can rebuild German planes, factories (using slave labor from occupied countries) and bridges, but you cannot replace German lives. 80% of all German casualties were on the Eastern Front.
Another fact is that German military production was on top in 1944, despite the bombings. You see the Germans quickly rebuilt their factories, and moved much of the production to the countryside, underground bunkers and secret locations not known to the allies. It has been said that the heavy bombers damaged German weapon production 20%, 30% tops. Even the allies realized this pretty soon, that just bombing Germany from the air wasn't going to stop them. Lots of slave labor...
Germany missed their chance to win the war in the East in the winter of 1941. Even if they mostly were winning in 1942, Stalingrad was the turning point of the war, and any historian will tell you that. In January 1943 it became clear to most German generals that the war couldn't be won, and continuing it would only lead to millions of dead Germans, hence they plotted to assassinate him, several times BEFORE Stauffenberg's failed attempt.
You're placing too much emphasis on D-day. D-day saved Western Europe from falling into the hands of the reds. You see most Germans (and millions of axis sympathizers, volunteers and allies) were sent to the Eastern front to hold back the advancing Red Army.
Even without a D-day there's no way in hell Germany can win the war in 1944. It's a simple question of resources, and they could never hope to compete with the production capability of the USSR. The tide had long turned.
Sorry, but Britain would not have fallen to the Germans. Not as long as Hitler had his hands full fighting on the Eastern Front. Btw, after ALL of Europe had fallen the Germans didn't spend the summer of 1941 to the summer of 1944 just drinking tea and have minor skirmishes with the Soviets. This was a total war, and no pardon was given on either side.
Japan couldn't even defeat China, and had a lot of its army tied down there during the entire war. Who mentions the Chinese??
Japan DID try to attack the USSR in 1939, but got easily defeated in the Battle of Khalkhin Gol. This is when they realized it was pointless attacking an enemy and march through the Siberian wasteland to get oil in the Kaukasus, which was practically the other side of the world. Great Britain, who at the time still had a great presence in India and many other far East countries was a more logical enemy.
I suggest you listen to Hitler's recorded dialogue with Mannerheim in 1942
Hitler visited the Finnish marshall Mannerheim on his 75'th birthday in 1942. Hitler didn't know he was actually secretly taped. Anyway, this dialogue proves Hitler realizes he is in trouble on the Eastern Front. He mentions that "If one of my generals had told me that a nation has 35,000 tanks I'd call him a madman that sees ghost and multiplies everything 5 to 10 times".
Hitler admits to Mannerheim that the immense productive capability of the USSR is totally unexpected.
D-day didn't defeat Nazi Germany. They were already doomed D-day or not. Resources, resources, resources. No oil, no metal and fewer and fewer men. On D-day Germany was already on the retreat on the Eastern Front since over a year. The tank battle of Kursk ended German initiative on that front, and that was that. Tactical retreat could have saved lots of German lives, but Hitler wanted none of that.
Before you go too angry, let me tell you that the US industrial effort was >>
>>indeed crucial for winning the war.Without the lend lease(which was a damn good deal for you, since Great Britain paid it all back with interest over 60 years) Britain would have been bankrupt (and they almost were anyway in 1945).Trucks, uniforms, medicine, telegraph wire, locomotives were indeed vital on the Eastern Front too. The thing is those weren't given for free. First the USSR had to pay in pure gold for those, and later with millions of human lives.Good deal for you
@McLarenMercedes Most historians agree without the American war effort, USSR would have fallen. Why? Without factories, what can you build? They built cheap small factories as replacements which were soon bombed by the relentless American bombers. Japan would have also defeated Russia. Russia defeated most of the German troops, but without the factories Germany was rendered helpless. Just look at the first two years Russia was owned with ease. Cold weather saved them, then Americans saved them.
@trunikov Few nazi sympathizers will reflect on the fact that cold weather hampered the efforts of the soviets in defending their country as much as for the germans attacking it.
Well done for highlighting this very simple yet commonly ignored fact.
I also find it odd that plenty of western historians almost patronize the USSR when they say it "stayed in the fight" due to American aid, which was crucial, but when the Soviets are painted as "dependent", the British are painted as stoic?
@trunikov U.S.S.R. never repaid the Americans for the "lend-lease" equipment. * It included 14,800 fighter aircraft, and 1,300 Baldwin locomotives. The Soviet offensives of late 1943,1944,and 1945 were only possible because the U.S.S.R. had received 40,000 Studebaker 4x4 trucks to provision the armies as they moved Westward. *Stalin claimed that they Soviets repaid "in blood."
The terms of Lend-Lease generally required no payment. Most materials were essentially gifts, and the US considered them consumables. Large durables like ships were supposed to be returned. Roosevelt famously said you don't charge your neighbor for a hose hen his house is burning at the announcement. I don't know of the USSR refusing to return any ships, but at the end of the war the UK bought a large quantity of what would have been Lend-Lease materials at 10% face value.
@AngrySemite No, lease = rent. Gt Britain only just managed to repay the last cheque to the USA while Blair was prime minister. After WW2 the allied nations such as Britain virtually starved because of the cost of repaying the 'gift'. This is common knowledge ,especially for those of us with families in Europe in the post war period. How else did America have it's golden age of the 1950's and 60's ? Because the rest of the world paid for it. Russia suffered more than most thanks to uncle Koba.
@Mercmad Your "common knowledge" is wrong. As Roosevelt literally said, it was like lending your neighbor a hose. The boom in the US was due to exactly this. We fixed a demand shortfall with massive spending. Europe's problem was devastation, preventing them from growing out of their war debt. The US had much larger debt, but easily grew out of it, partially by supplying all the goods Europe could no longer make. Marshall Plan helped underwrite that demand.
@Mercmad The UK OTOH, billed Poland for every penny of equipment the Polish Air Force expended saving their ass in the Battle of Britain. It is easy to argue that without Poland's help Britain would be a German parking lot. But the cheap Poms still wanted money for the privilege of saving her majesty's ass.
@AngrySemite do you have any idea the state of the uk after ww2? the population was still relying on food stamps right up to the 60's and had to scrap most of their navy just so they called get the steel to rebuild the country after 6 years of war. also just out of curiosity just how did the british bill poland when they became part of the ussr?
I know exactly the postwar state of UK. Do you know the state of postwar Poland? Poles saved the Brits after the Brits refused to help them. UK/US also refused to intervene in the camps when the Polish gov't begged them. Then they recognized the Soviet backed gov't. Poland was NEVER part of the USSR. Maybe you are thinking of Belorus, which was mostly part of Poland until after the war, then part of the USSR. The poms could bill anyone they wanted anyway.Google People's Rep. of Pol.
@AngrySemite and who were billing the british? the americans, the british owed billions to america through lend lease and only in the last decade have finally paid it all back, i have read alot of the hardships of post war europe and many countries starved for many years after ww2. Not quite sure how you mean the brits refused to help the polish considering after the war, they were struggling to look after themselves considering the state of the country.
@pramboy09 You are misinformed about lend-lease. See my previous comment. Or use google. Britain refused to help Poland when Germany invaded. Thousands of Poles then fought under British command in the PAF and Polish II Corps. Britain billed Poland for the materials the PAF expended defending Britain in the Battle of Britain. The US did not bill the UK for the vast majority of Lend Lease equipment. The terms were to return it or pay 10% of the cost and keep it. Spent materials were written off.
@AngrySemite It was still billions of dollars they owed when already finacially crippled. sorry? britain refused to help poland when germany invaded? that was the reason why britain declared war on germany! my country new zealand also declared war on germany for the same reason.Not only poles helped out during the battle of britain my countrymen did the same and all of them knew if england fell then there was no chance of not only poland but the rest of europe being free again.
@pramboy09 Yes, declaring war and dropping a few leaflets was very helpful. In May of 1939 at a meeting in Paris the British and French secretly agreed not to provide any material assistance to Poland in the case of invasion. This violated treaties both nations already had with Poland. Also, the USSR also invaded Poland and Britain didn't declare war on them. New Zealand, BTW, was a Dominion of the British Empire in 1939. It did now become a Commonwealth realm until after the war. Not comparable
@AngrySemite so what are saying? the brits and french wanted hitler to invade europe and their own countries? I think you will find that both sides were worried if they sent equipment they wouldn't have enough to protect themselves. New zealand may have been part of the dominion but we were not forced to send our troops our country was not run by britain in 1939.
@AngrySemite the main point here if you had been able to hold out long enough the british would have sent a force to help, the fact is you outnumbered the germans with 30 active divisions,10 reserve and 12 calvary but the main problem was you were trying to fight like it was 200 yrs earlier. The germans had mobile equipment that revolutionized modern warfare and your army and airforce had incredibly out of date equipment, which the french and in some ways the english were to find out themselves
@pramboy09 True of the PAF. The Army had modern equipment, especially tanks, which were better than the Germans' and organized similarly. Germany invaded with 60 div, 2,750 tanks and 2,315 planes. Slovakia: 3 div. USSR: 33 div, 4,736 tanks and 3,300 planes. Poland had 39 div 880 tanks and 400 planes. Her main problem was a strategy predicated on fighting Germ. alone, in 1942, not a two front war in 1939. PAF were ~5% of active pilots in the BoB and accounted for 13% of German losses.
@AngrySemite the book i have says the original strike force of the germans had 48 active divisions and 6 reserve,yes you had modern tanks but not enough of them as well as being short of anti-aircraft and anti-tank guns, and what really didn't help was polands commanders belief in the illusion that cavalry chargers could repel tanks and armoured vehicles!
@pramboy09 That cavalry/tank story was German propaganda. Polish Cavalry were modern mounted infantry, and well armed with tanks and Bofors 37mm AT guns. They performed very well using modern tactics. There were a few charges, but not against tanks. There was one successful charge where Nazi tanks later arrived for photos. Italian newspapers reported this as a cavalry charge on tanks. Guderian also told this lie. Google "Krojanty." Soviet cavalry also performed very well in WWII.
@BossHiggs You have a very interesting logic. You claim that the USSR won the war only because of 40 000 trucks? Means of Kursk fought disguised under the T-34 tanks trucks Studebaker? A fly in the sky, too, Studebaker trucks model-UC-3 La-5? Submarines were also Studebaker? U.S. aid can not be underestimated and we are grateful to you, but you can not tell the world that the USSR won the war only because the United States and Britain.
I know you would love to continue this fruitless internet argument, however it's not possible to win against a moron because they never figure out that they've lost. I'm just going to boycott it.
@Scharfschutzen1 Tiny country? You are underestimating german numbers. 1) They had huge army that defeated whole Europe. 2) They were supported by whole european industries. 3) They were supported by italians, hungarians, finns, spain, romanians, bulgarians. as allies and some units from defeated countries. 4) In 1941 they attaked Soviet Union and had many times more combat ready troops.
@kosiak10851 allies bombed germanys factorys so they couldnt build weapons and vehicles. on 1940 russia moved their factorys to asia so germans couldnt bombard them. Also russia is way too big country to conguer.
The Soviets are proud of their very precious acquisition & it shows !
Beautifully filmed VVS Intelligence document on the FW-190.
(P.S. -The arguments & flaming on YouTube are funny for all the wrong reasons; -I.e., "My ignorance is infinately stronger than your ignorance, therefore my ignorance is the right ignorance !" .....-So don't be shy, keep on flaming - It makes everyone else laugh !)
No, that's standard procedure with every radial engine, pushing the prop by hand through a number of revolutions to check that no oil has filled the lower cilinders, which could lead to hydrostatic lock, trashing the engine :)
LOL that thing had crude repairs xD. And the guy is envying the German design if you guys dont understand Russian... He explains ever component of it. And just to let you noobs know when allies captured or shot down a german plane they put a small swastika on their planes... that is why allied planes sometimes had over 5 swastikas on them... they did not take off the signs to show they captured it and it was not a fux german plane.
The soviets had very competent planes, starting with the Yak9 and LA5 in 1942. With the Yak3 and LA7 they outclassed every german fighter and all allied fighters on low and medium altitudes in terms of vertical and horizontal manouvers. They were very capable in building small, very light fighters with low wingload coupled to a very powerful and modern engine. And soviet a/c had reflector-gunsights already in the late thirties.
News flash. One small example of why the Russian fighters got knocked down so regularly: They had no proper gunsights. Without them. It was virtually impossible to score hits on an opponent. True, the Russian pilots weren't battle-seasoned vets, like the Germans. The simple fact is, though. The Russian planes were also crap. You should read about it some time. Maybe before you start making posts like this...
Russian planes crap? What is the basis of your information? Number of planes destroyed or performance data? Granted, the soviets didn't have the K14 but their gunsights were good enough, same kind of reflector sights the germans used and it wasn't at all impossible to score hits, the list of russian and german aces as an example. The russian planes that were crap used the old AM-35 and Ash-25 engines. With the Ash-82FN they were able to outfly and outclimb most opponents.
@neomuttley you're crazy. Mid-late war Russian aircraft were incredible at low altitudes, which is where they were meant to be used, especially LA-5 and LA-7.
Ну, так уж и хана)) У фокки есть небольшое преимущество, пока у него есть разгонная скорость после пикирования с высоты, но если он сровняется по скорости с истребителем, который он атакует, у него нет никаких шансов уйти наверх, можно делать с ним что хочешь.
@asd36f Pilot Brandt is still visible when he turning the propeller. Just look his uniform and hairstyle;Typical for the Germans. Regarding shape of the aircraft he escaped to the Russians side.
this video propagation for the Soviet pilots who really were afraid this plane. Here is told that this plane is not terrible. But its characteristics very much impress!
It concedes only on bends. I think this video on the contrary could instal fear in Russian pilots да простят меня соотечественники, но самолёт очень хорош!
Не надо гнать. Я видел интервью советского лётчика ветерана, который рассказывал, что никто не боялся фоку. У этого самолёта было очень низкое время прохождения виража, поэтому он вообще не мог вести воздушный бой, а использовался в основном как штурмовик.
Я имел в виду, что fw-190 имел очень слабое время прохождения виража, любой советский истребитель мог легко от него увернуться. Сын Хрущёва воевал на Як-7 и был сбит fw-190, но многие удивляются, потому что любой средне подготовленный летчик мог легко разделаться с фоккой.
I think you are the one that doesn't comprehend the skill and brains needed to become a fighter pilot, even 70 years ago. The soviets had a very efficient educational system with a very high standard.
im afraid you cannot read or spell your name correctly, why must i try to be an ass when you already are one for everyone here. the only thing superior about yaks were the numbers killed by above mentioned video.
70 years ago, russia was the poorest country with the the most natural resources and education was one of the list of their problems, I believe this fact still stands. do you consider the Ukraine russian, or are you just considering the former soviet union as one gray area in your limited knowledge of the region. The soviets are not really a part of the countryside anymore, unless you havent heard. in this video, you see ignorant people look at equipment of the future, lol
The people who filmed this were engineers with a good understanding of technology, the plane has been researched by all the major design bureaus like Yakovlev, Lavochkin, Ilyushin, Petlyakov, Polikarpov, Mikoyan-Gurevich, Sukhoi and Tupolev. The *only* piece of technology unknown to them was the "Kommandogerät", all the other systems and concepts were already widely in use by the VVS for years. The FW190 was an evolution in design, not a revolution.
As an example, the russians and germans used direct fuel injection when the british and some american planes were still using carburetors. Two-speed superchargers, constant speed props, gyro-instruments, advanced hydraulics/pneumatics, pilot protection, large calibre cannons, radio's... The soviets had it all. The engines were comparable, the Ash-82FN had a power output of 1850 hp, 14 cilinders/41 liter. The Mikulin AM-38 V12 had 4 valves per cilinder and fuel injection etc.
after the war, the russians moved the german factories and imprisoned the german engineers who developed actually developed technology. If russians were as innovative as you say, the world would continue to hear about new technology from russia, all russia ever produced in the last 70 years were nothing but spy stories and things that resemble what the west innovates and you know this come on now. All thats good from russia is sold at every bar and that is vodka and blonde women. lets be honest.
It's very clear to me you live in the USA. You've been fed propaganda for most of your life, which is quite normal ;) But I can't have a normal discussion if you're constantly belittling a nation and people right out of the textbook of your own culture. Personally, although I don't speak the language, I'd rather live in Ukraine or Russia instead of the USA. If you are interested, you'll find there's enough new tech coming from Russia/Ukraine :)
@flexyco, I'd take 3,000, or whatever, P51s over 300 262s, or 3,000 Shermans over 300 King Tigers, any day. I think that was the thinking, to the extent that it was thought out, of the allies in WWII and this is one of the things that helped win them the war and lose it for Germany.
them taking revenge for all the shit they got from you was justified. sadly they didn't get your cowardly nutsi father that way you would waste time here posting gibberish nobody listens to
German, age 52 in... Argentina? Dady had to escape becouse of his war crimes? I am almost sure, you have a pillow with little Adolf on it, and saing him "good night mein fuhrer" every night. And the best - German talk about murder (you mean war crimes I gues)! Hitler & Stalin were worth each other.
Stalin lived ascetic life and was not interested in material goods but in power (just in case you didnt know). Stalin is over, this page is clarified in 1956 and over. Is there some specific reason people like always to remember it? Maybe as a pressure point: "You had Stalin, so you are always wrong?"
Translation: They are comparing the factory specs, to actual specs,
making lots of comparisons to the BF 109, are saying the plane is
not so so great (LOL; bs), and are saying the best places to attack it are form the bottom and sides, while the worse is head on due to much protection and a lot of fire power.
Well, Guss, the Russians captured an intact FW190,
considered to be the greatest German fighter of WWII.
They are now testing it, stating its specs, making comparisons
between it and the BF 109 (I am sure you do not speak Russian, "Gus"),
and are going over it's weak points. They then made a video of this to teach their own pilots on how to take down an FW 190. "Dumb"? No, Brilliant? Yes.
It could just be me ? but somehow the fw 190 does remind me of several Russian build aircrafts during and after the war ?? ...no? . , perhaps a copy here and there... but not everywhere(like only the good features are left out)
It's possible. But it's likely a combination of the fact that, no matter who you are, aerodynamics are aerodynamics, so many countries wound up heading in the same direction, and if anybody had a better approach to a given, both enemies and allies would try to copy it.
Hi fcf44, yes that's right. But the British are pretty stupid. We tend to invent things and then just give them away! Other nations then go on to develop them. I think it took us 30 years to learn that lesson!
Im sorry, 3 was too high! I never quoted the HC website as a source, and yes I know they have one. Are you really suggesting that you are more informed than the staff at the HC and that YOU have FIRST hand knowledge? And there goes your dyslexia again, I never said spelling I said "WRITING." You are a retard. You cant make a single argument with resources to back your case and the best you can do is "Learn to use commas" LOL
faggot russians
cryteeek 4 weeks ago
and olso german pilots were great againts allied pilots.allied pilotshad inferior skills.later war,germany suffered lack of pilot training and these new pilots were outnumbered 1to20.thats all dont think u won the war because of your troops' abilities only quantity of allies.
sahtekar1000 6 months ago
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sahtekar1000 6 months ago
germany lost the war only because of insufficient materials.no oil no man power etc.
sahtekar1000 6 months ago
Good tech,but russian spirit has been overpower it!
wedfg145 8 months ago
@Gruenherzjaeger In short, it is instruction for the soviet pilot, about weak points and technical specification.
1906199118 10 months ago
@trunikov
U.S. Strategically defeated the lufwaffe and bombed the factories,and oil fields. They couldn't fight without the aforementioned three.
Russia bore the brunt of the ground fighting, but many more Russians were killed then Germans.
Russia would have been in deep trouble without U.S because Germany would have been able to manufacture more aircraft, and focus more of their efforts on the eastern front. Russia probably would have been overwhelmed.
TheRealHawkeye 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
> U.S. Strategically defeated the lufwaffe and bombed the factories,and oil fields
read army began bombed berlin and german factories since august 1941 till end of the ww2.
> Russia bore the brunt of the ground fighting, but many more Russians were killed then Germans.
imho it is a myth. this myth based on 2 facts:
1. german losses doesn't include losses of alliance (italy, hungry etc.)
2. when say about ussr losses usually say number of losses with civilians.
trunikov 1 year ago
@trunikov
Red army used Pe-2 to bomb factories. They were very fast, but in small numbers, and had a small payload. According to German reports, Russian bombing destroyed less than 1% of factories. Russian bombing was ineffective towards factories. They had some, but small, success with oil reserves.
Russias military losses: Over 11 million
Germanies military losses: Over 7 million
U.S.A military losses: Under 300,000.
TheRealHawkeye 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye The Soviet Union lost more than 20 million people. Where do you get data on 11 million?
SuperBarkas 8 months ago
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umandilo 1 year ago
nice flick!
tuesdayclubbers 1 year ago
awesome wish i could hear it in english !
dutyhole1734 1 year ago
Russian verdict (7:00):
"This plane has nothing phenomenal about it.
And in some aspects is even worse than bf109"
alp701 1 year ago
1944?
mistersmith6000 1 year ago
you fucktards who argue on youtube are insane. fuck empathy. fuck sympathy. move on, dipshits.
galvenizedsteel 1 year ago
@galvenizedsteel Yes, lets move on to the subject of your mama Russia? shall we you cock suckin mothufuckaaaa hahahaha
tisoy909 1 year ago
@tisoy909 you are the epitomy of ignorance. thanks.
galvenizedsteel 1 year ago
Just wondering,why would the Russians fly a captured FW 190
displaying German markings.
Great video !!!!!!!!!!!!!
sixinafour 1 year ago
I can't read Russian. I'm betting it said> "So, that's what a proper gunsight looks like." FW190 is one of my all time favorite planes.
neomuttley 1 year ago
@neomuttley Oh Come on, theyre not saying that, they are saying that since russians cant design a plane, take a tour of Russia instead and get some Russian bitches cuz theyll do anything to come to the states. Not a single word about an airplane mentioned.
tisoy909 1 year ago
@tisoy909,
Russia today is a land of suffering for the vast majority of its citizens. Searing, oppressive poverty rules most lives. YOU could just as easily have been handed that hand by fate, young man. Your empathy needs work. Who knows? Perhaps YOUR luck is about to run out?
neomuttley 1 year ago
@neomuttley That is right, I do knot know my fate, and either do you. But I do know where I am heading and where I come from, I come from a family of engineers. and I dont believe in Communism.
tisoy909 1 year ago
@tisoy909,
What does any of that have to do w/your gross insensitivity to the suffering of others??? Not a lick. You post like a tween. In which case. You've very little idea about where you are heading. Let alone where you will end up. You might want to start learning now...
neomuttley 1 year ago
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tisoy909 1 year ago
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@neomuttley Oh Mofrere!, are we talking about my gross insensitivity to suffering, or an attempt in interpreting your lamen view on anything relevant to this video? Would you like a cup of wake up da fuck up, LOL. And No, I would care very little to know about you, from your two lines of ignorance, I find no intellect whatsoever. In retro, you find mine engaging, you dimwit, Whats has yo mama taught ya? not a HOE LoT!
tisoy909 1 year ago
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@neomuttley Oh Mofrere!, are we talking about my gross insensitivity to suffering, or an attempt in interpreting your lamen view on anything relevant to this video? Would you like a cup of wake up da fuck up, LOL. And No, I would care very little to know about you, from your two lines of ignorance, I find no intellect whatsoever. In retro, you find mine engaging, you dimwit, Whats has yo mama taught ya? not a HOE LoT!
tisoy909 1 year ago
@neomuttley
you know what? the same can be said about your country. The Gini-coefficent (as in the difference between the rich and poor) says a lot. Although Russia is worse (the rich there really are vulgar and like tacky things), you're not exactly in the 1950's or 1960's any more.
Last time I checked you have to pay both for higher education and medical care. Which means that those poor people working low paid jobs are pretty much stuck there. Never mind that scum, right?
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes,
Hi, I'm not sure what you're replying to. The wage disparity & associated evils of my country? No argument. Only the top 15% of the economic tree is happy about the status quo. Overall, the Fifties & Sixties were great times. There was a lot of evil, yes. The evil hadn't won yet, though. Kindly pick a topic I disagree w/you on to argue about :-).
neomuttley 1 year ago
koro4e bei s nizu ili s boku vso ponatno ) , sorry
usin6 1 year ago
Great video :) 5****!
tankman13p66 1 year ago
Fw 190 A is a most beautiful fighter of WW2 for me! I don't understant anything from the video, but I read that Russians tested the 190 a lot, and they thought it's no good. It was maybe because they captured mainly old planes, and also german industry was very low on quality in late WW2, due to allied bombing.
vonFisch 1 year ago
это самолет до сих пор лежит законсервированным если не продали в ЛИИ Громова.
huevparolbla 1 year ago
Without America, Germany would have had no problem taking out Russia.
TheRealHawkeye 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye - without America, British would starve and then they would have no problem taking Russia >.<
Acornoa 1 year ago
@Acornoa
in the 1941-1944 90% of german army were on the east
ahbahpuh 1 year ago
@ahbahpuh - Wow, did not know that. To be honest, it was just my hypothesis. i thought that because without Britain, there would be no wasted resources and there would be no daylight or night time bombing from allies on German factories. Also Germany had to move forces back and forth wasting time and manpower >.<
Acornoa 1 year ago
@Acornoa Not so Canada was Heavy into shipping food ammo planes troops and more to england while the usa was trading with england and cut that into half when war was with japan 1941
freakyflow 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye Lol that is just stupid tell me what makes you think that?
vonFisch 1 year ago
@vonFisch Alright I will tell you, America sent thousands of long range bombers each day pounding Germany. Without that Germany would of focused thousands of defensive fighters which were defending the homeland to Russia. Without U.S D-day would have not existed and Russia certainly would not have been able to handle that task.
Britian would have ran out of supplies, and Germany would have taken over Britian, and Japan would have eventually invaded Russia
So its not Stupid LOL.
TheRealHawkeye 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye @TheRealHawkeye Well you wrote "Without America, Germany would have had no problem taking out Russia", which is stupid, let me explain it to you. USA bombing offensive increased and started to be a big issue for Germany in late 1943, it was when Germany already lost the war in east. USSR weren't also in '44 in deserate need of second front like they were in '42. I fully respect USA contibution to winning the war in Europe, but it wasn't just them.
vonFisch 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
Sorry, but on D-day there were around 60 German divisions in France, compared to the over 240 German divisions on the huge Eastern Front. Look that up in any good book written about WW2. Please do. That was the main front of the war as far as Hitler and Nazi Germany was concerned. You can rebuild German planes, factories (using slave labor from occupied countries) and bridges, but you cannot replace German lives. 80% of all German casualties were on the Eastern Front.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
Another fact is that German military production was on top in 1944, despite the bombings. You see the Germans quickly rebuilt their factories, and moved much of the production to the countryside, underground bunkers and secret locations not known to the allies. It has been said that the heavy bombers damaged German weapon production 20%, 30% tops. Even the allies realized this pretty soon, that just bombing Germany from the air wasn't going to stop them. Lots of slave labor...
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
Germany missed their chance to win the war in the East in the winter of 1941. Even if they mostly were winning in 1942, Stalingrad was the turning point of the war, and any historian will tell you that. In January 1943 it became clear to most German generals that the war couldn't be won, and continuing it would only lead to millions of dead Germans, hence they plotted to assassinate him, several times BEFORE Stauffenberg's failed attempt.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
You're placing too much emphasis on D-day. D-day saved Western Europe from falling into the hands of the reds. You see most Germans (and millions of axis sympathizers, volunteers and allies) were sent to the Eastern front to hold back the advancing Red Army.
Even without a D-day there's no way in hell Germany can win the war in 1944. It's a simple question of resources, and they could never hope to compete with the production capability of the USSR. The tide had long turned.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
Sorry, but Britain would not have fallen to the Germans. Not as long as Hitler had his hands full fighting on the Eastern Front. Btw, after ALL of Europe had fallen the Germans didn't spend the summer of 1941 to the summer of 1944 just drinking tea and have minor skirmishes with the Soviets. This was a total war, and no pardon was given on either side.
Japan couldn't even defeat China, and had a lot of its army tied down there during the entire war. Who mentions the Chinese??
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
Japan DID try to attack the USSR in 1939, but got easily defeated in the Battle of Khalkhin Gol. This is when they realized it was pointless attacking an enemy and march through the Siberian wasteland to get oil in the Kaukasus, which was practically the other side of the world. Great Britain, who at the time still had a great presence in India and many other far East countries was a more logical enemy.
I suggest you listen to Hitler's recorded dialogue with Mannerheim in 1942
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
Hitler visited the Finnish marshall Mannerheim on his 75'th birthday in 1942. Hitler didn't know he was actually secretly taped. Anyway, this dialogue proves Hitler realizes he is in trouble on the Eastern Front. He mentions that "If one of my generals had told me that a nation has 35,000 tanks I'd call him a madman that sees ghost and multiplies everything 5 to 10 times".
Hitler admits to Mannerheim that the immense productive capability of the USSR is totally unexpected.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
D-day didn't defeat Nazi Germany. They were already doomed D-day or not. Resources, resources, resources. No oil, no metal and fewer and fewer men. On D-day Germany was already on the retreat on the Eastern Front since over a year. The tank battle of Kursk ended German initiative on that front, and that was that. Tactical retreat could have saved lots of German lives, but Hitler wanted none of that.
Before you go too angry, let me tell you that the US industrial effort was >>
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
>>indeed crucial for winning the war.Without the lend lease(which was a damn good deal for you, since Great Britain paid it all back with interest over 60 years) Britain would have been bankrupt (and they almost were anyway in 1945).Trucks, uniforms, medicine, telegraph wire, locomotives were indeed vital on the Eastern Front too. The thing is those weren't given for free. First the USSR had to pay in pure gold for those, and later with millions of human lives.Good deal for you
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes Most historians agree without the American war effort, USSR would have fallen. Why? Without factories, what can you build? They built cheap small factories as replacements which were soon bombed by the relentless American bombers. Japan would have also defeated Russia. Russia defeated most of the German troops, but without the factories Germany was rendered helpless. Just look at the first two years Russia was owned with ease. Cold weather saved them, then Americans saved them.
TheRealHawkeye 1 year ago
@TheRealHawkeye
> Cold weather saved them
i'm sorry i didn't get it. the argument "Cold weather" is inept. red army fights with german troops in the same "Cold weather".
> then Americans saved them
i'm sorry how many americans fell then? millions, hundred millions....
we very appreciate your help, indeed. your help was done in critical time.
but i would to say that _all_ your help was less than 4%. this help was not charity, ussr and then russia still pay for it.
trunikov 1 year ago
@trunikov Few nazi sympathizers will reflect on the fact that cold weather hampered the efforts of the soviets in defending their country as much as for the germans attacking it.
Well done for highlighting this very simple yet commonly ignored fact.
I also find it odd that plenty of western historians almost patronize the USSR when they say it "stayed in the fight" due to American aid, which was crucial, but when the Soviets are painted as "dependent", the British are painted as stoic?
polpiv4tifi 1 year ago
@trunikov U.S.S.R. never repaid the Americans for the "lend-lease" equipment. * It included 14,800 fighter aircraft, and 1,300 Baldwin locomotives. The Soviet offensives of late 1943,1944,and 1945 were only possible because the U.S.S.R. had received 40,000 Studebaker 4x4 trucks to provision the armies as they moved Westward. *Stalin claimed that they Soviets repaid "in blood."
BossHiggs 9 months ago
@BossHiggs
The terms of Lend-Lease generally required no payment. Most materials were essentially gifts, and the US considered them consumables. Large durables like ships were supposed to be returned. Roosevelt famously said you don't charge your neighbor for a hose hen his house is burning at the announcement. I don't know of the USSR refusing to return any ships, but at the end of the war the UK bought a large quantity of what would have been Lend-Lease materials at 10% face value.
AngrySemite 8 months ago
@AngrySemite No, lease = rent. Gt Britain only just managed to repay the last cheque to the USA while Blair was prime minister. After WW2 the allied nations such as Britain virtually starved because of the cost of repaying the 'gift'. This is common knowledge ,especially for those of us with families in Europe in the post war period. How else did America have it's golden age of the 1950's and 60's ? Because the rest of the world paid for it. Russia suffered more than most thanks to uncle Koba.
Mercmad 2 months ago in playlist Flying
@Mercmad Your "common knowledge" is wrong. As Roosevelt literally said, it was like lending your neighbor a hose. The boom in the US was due to exactly this. We fixed a demand shortfall with massive spending. Europe's problem was devastation, preventing them from growing out of their war debt. The US had much larger debt, but easily grew out of it, partially by supplying all the goods Europe could no longer make. Marshall Plan helped underwrite that demand.
AngrySemite 2 months ago
@Mercmad The UK OTOH, billed Poland for every penny of equipment the Polish Air Force expended saving their ass in the Battle of Britain. It is easy to argue that without Poland's help Britain would be a German parking lot. But the cheap Poms still wanted money for the privilege of saving her majesty's ass.
AngrySemite 2 months ago
@AngrySemite do you have any idea the state of the uk after ww2? the population was still relying on food stamps right up to the 60's and had to scrap most of their navy just so they called get the steel to rebuild the country after 6 years of war. also just out of curiosity just how did the british bill poland when they became part of the ussr?
pramboy09 1 month ago
@pramboy09
I know exactly the postwar state of UK. Do you know the state of postwar Poland? Poles saved the Brits after the Brits refused to help them. UK/US also refused to intervene in the camps when the Polish gov't begged them. Then they recognized the Soviet backed gov't. Poland was NEVER part of the USSR. Maybe you are thinking of Belorus, which was mostly part of Poland until after the war, then part of the USSR. The poms could bill anyone they wanted anyway.Google People's Rep. of Pol.
AngrySemite 1 month ago
@AngrySemite and who were billing the british? the americans, the british owed billions to america through lend lease and only in the last decade have finally paid it all back, i have read alot of the hardships of post war europe and many countries starved for many years after ww2. Not quite sure how you mean the brits refused to help the polish considering after the war, they were struggling to look after themselves considering the state of the country.
pramboy09 1 month ago
@pramboy09 You are misinformed about lend-lease. See my previous comment. Or use google. Britain refused to help Poland when Germany invaded. Thousands of Poles then fought under British command in the PAF and Polish II Corps. Britain billed Poland for the materials the PAF expended defending Britain in the Battle of Britain. The US did not bill the UK for the vast majority of Lend Lease equipment. The terms were to return it or pay 10% of the cost and keep it. Spent materials were written off.
AngrySemite 1 month ago
@AngrySemite It was still billions of dollars they owed when already finacially crippled. sorry? britain refused to help poland when germany invaded? that was the reason why britain declared war on germany! my country new zealand also declared war on germany for the same reason.Not only poles helped out during the battle of britain my countrymen did the same and all of them knew if england fell then there was no chance of not only poland but the rest of europe being free again.
pramboy09 1 month ago
@pramboy09 Yes, declaring war and dropping a few leaflets was very helpful. In May of 1939 at a meeting in Paris the British and French secretly agreed not to provide any material assistance to Poland in the case of invasion. This violated treaties both nations already had with Poland. Also, the USSR also invaded Poland and Britain didn't declare war on them. New Zealand, BTW, was a Dominion of the British Empire in 1939. It did now become a Commonwealth realm until after the war. Not comparable
AngrySemite 1 month ago
@AngrySemite so what are saying? the brits and french wanted hitler to invade europe and their own countries? I think you will find that both sides were worried if they sent equipment they wouldn't have enough to protect themselves. New zealand may have been part of the dominion but we were not forced to send our troops our country was not run by britain in 1939.
pramboy09 1 month ago
@AngrySemite the main point here if you had been able to hold out long enough the british would have sent a force to help, the fact is you outnumbered the germans with 30 active divisions,10 reserve and 12 calvary but the main problem was you were trying to fight like it was 200 yrs earlier. The germans had mobile equipment that revolutionized modern warfare and your army and airforce had incredibly out of date equipment, which the french and in some ways the english were to find out themselves
pramboy09 1 month ago
@pramboy09 True of the PAF. The Army had modern equipment, especially tanks, which were better than the Germans' and organized similarly. Germany invaded with 60 div, 2,750 tanks and 2,315 planes. Slovakia: 3 div. USSR: 33 div, 4,736 tanks and 3,300 planes. Poland had 39 div 880 tanks and 400 planes. Her main problem was a strategy predicated on fighting Germ. alone, in 1942, not a two front war in 1939. PAF were ~5% of active pilots in the BoB and accounted for 13% of German losses.
AngrySemite 1 month ago
@AngrySemite the book i have says the original strike force of the germans had 48 active divisions and 6 reserve,yes you had modern tanks but not enough of them as well as being short of anti-aircraft and anti-tank guns, and what really didn't help was polands commanders belief in the illusion that cavalry chargers could repel tanks and armoured vehicles!
pramboy09 1 month ago
@pramboy09 That cavalry/tank story was German propaganda. Polish Cavalry were modern mounted infantry, and well armed with tanks and Bofors 37mm AT guns. They performed very well using modern tactics. There were a few charges, but not against tanks. There was one successful charge where Nazi tanks later arrived for photos. Italian newspapers reported this as a cavalry charge on tanks. Guderian also told this lie. Google "Krojanty." Soviet cavalry also performed very well in WWII.
AngrySemite 1 month ago
@BossHiggs You have a very interesting logic. You claim that the USSR won the war only because of 40 000 trucks? Means of Kursk fought disguised under the T-34 tanks trucks Studebaker? A fly in the sky, too, Studebaker trucks model-UC-3 La-5? Submarines were also Studebaker? U.S. aid can not be underestimated and we are grateful to you, but you can not tell the world that the USSR won the war only because the United States and Britain.
SuperBarkas 8 months ago 5
@BossHiggs We would have won, and it alone, but would have spent on it for two years and another 20 million lives.
SuperBarkas 8 months ago 2
@BossHiggs Oh yes the Russians and all of the countries under the Soviet yoke paid in blood. Blood spilt by Stalin,50,000,000 souls at least.
Mercmad 2 months ago in playlist Flying
I know you would love to continue this fruitless internet argument, however it's not possible to win against a moron because they never figure out that they've lost. I'm just going to boycott it.
Superbiz2 1 year ago
@Scharfschutzen1 Your stupidity amuses me.
Superbiz2 1 year ago
awesome contemporary document.
cupidstuntts 1 year ago
Germany would put this as second if not top fighter, during world war II.
GunZeeLad 1 year ago
@Scharfschutzen1 Tiny country? You are underestimating german numbers. 1) They had huge army that defeated whole Europe. 2) They were supported by whole european industries. 3) They were supported by italians, hungarians, finns, spain, romanians, bulgarians. as allies and some units from defeated countries. 4) In 1941 they attaked Soviet Union and had many times more combat ready troops.
And still they suck.
kosiak10851 1 year ago
@kosiak10851 allies bombed germanys factorys so they couldnt build weapons and vehicles. on 1940 russia moved their factorys to asia so germans couldnt bombard them. Also russia is way too big country to conguer.
Artist334 1 year ago
@Scharfschutzen1 So how it feels to be totally defeated by "subhumans"?
kosiak10851 1 year ago
@Scharfschutzen1 hitler kaput
kosiak10851 1 year ago
Priceless Historic footage !
The Soviets are proud of their very precious acquisition & it shows !
Beautifully filmed VVS Intelligence document on the FW-190.
(P.S. -The arguments & flaming on YouTube are funny for all the wrong reasons; -I.e., "My ignorance is infinately stronger than your ignorance, therefore my ignorance is the right ignorance !" .....-So don't be shy, keep on flaming - It makes everyone else laugh !)
guthywoodry 1 year ago
The idiots did not know how to start the engine that is why they were spinning it.... then he goes it has an electric engine starter xD
EdyPegasus 2 years ago
No, that's standard procedure with every radial engine, pushing the prop by hand through a number of revolutions to check that no oil has filled the lower cilinders, which could lead to hydrostatic lock, trashing the engine :)
flexyco 2 years ago
LOL that thing had crude repairs xD. And the guy is envying the German design if you guys dont understand Russian... He explains ever component of it. And just to let you noobs know when allies captured or shot down a german plane they put a small swastika on their planes... that is why allied planes sometimes had over 5 swastikas on them... they did not take off the signs to show they captured it and it was not a fux german plane.
EdyPegasus 2 years ago
lol!
28thBobbyplane 2 years ago
Russians can't fly ;-)
cyberOwwwOecho 2 years ago
The Soviet must have loved flying a competent aircraft for once. Plus, one w/an actual gunsight no less!!
neomuttley 2 years ago
The soviets had very competent planes, starting with the Yak9 and LA5 in 1942. With the Yak3 and LA7 they outclassed every german fighter and all allied fighters on low and medium altitudes in terms of vertical and horizontal manouvers. They were very capable in building small, very light fighters with low wingload coupled to a very powerful and modern engine. And soviet a/c had reflector-gunsights already in the late thirties.
flexyco 2 years ago 2
@flexycoIs,
Is THAT why they were shot down in droves? Thanks for clarifying that. Where do you think guys like the Black Knight racked up 350+ kills? Russia...
neomuttley 2 years ago
I only wrote about the tech, not the pilots.
flexyco 2 years ago
@flexyco,
News flash. One small example of why the Russian fighters got knocked down so regularly: They had no proper gunsights. Without them. It was virtually impossible to score hits on an opponent. True, the Russian pilots weren't battle-seasoned vets, like the Germans. The simple fact is, though. The Russian planes were also crap. You should read about it some time. Maybe before you start making posts like this...
neomuttley 2 years ago
Russian planes crap? What is the basis of your information? Number of planes destroyed or performance data? Granted, the soviets didn't have the K14 but their gunsights were good enough, same kind of reflector sights the germans used and it wasn't at all impossible to score hits, the list of russian and german aces as an example. The russian planes that were crap used the old AM-35 and Ash-25 engines. With the Ash-82FN they were able to outfly and outclimb most opponents.
flexyco 2 years ago
@flexyco,
That's not what I've read. W/the tone of your earlier replies. I've no interest in hashing it out w/you. Think whatever you want...
neomuttley 2 years ago
Have I offended you? That was definitely not the purpose. Have a good life.
flexyco 2 years ago
@neomuttley you're crazy. Mid-late war Russian aircraft were incredible at low altitudes, which is where they were meant to be used, especially LA-5 and LA-7.
IcyScythe 1 year ago
wow
longsweep1 2 years ago
True. Most western air forces would slap their own insignia on a captured a/c before taking it for a spin.
fantom58 2 years ago
njemietskie samolot verygoodskie
alruin4531 2 years ago
Polietaj na FW 190 w IL-2 Sturmovik i tagda pogawarim ili eto horoshyj somoliot. Po mojemu eto krasiwyj grobb!.
oron42 2 years ago
фока как и поздний мес не для свалок фока с превышением любому красному хана \умозаключение согласно игры ил-2\
zvb7777 2 years ago
Ну, так уж и хана)) У фокки есть небольшое преимущество, пока у него есть разгонная скорость после пикирования с высоты, но если он сровняется по скорости с истребителем, который он атакует, у него нет никаких шансов уйти наверх, можно делать с ним что хочешь.
therealsleepwalker 2 years ago
Fascinating piece of footage!
The FW 190 A-4 shown belonged to Uffz. Helmut Brandt of 2./J.G. 54, and was captured on the 16th of January 1943 near Schlüsselburg.
At the end of the film there is a reference to the Ju-87. Did the Soviets make similar films for all of the German aircraft that they captured?
asd36f 2 years ago 6
maybe, cause it is educational film only for pilots of those time
CappelanLeon 2 years ago
@asd36f Pilot Brandt is still visible when he turning the propeller. Just look his uniform and hairstyle;Typical for the Germans. Regarding shape of the aircraft he escaped to the Russians side.
AlesLjubljana 1 year ago
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walckstephine 2 years ago
139
zzzak666 2 years ago
5kg of ammo in 1 sec? I'm not sure if i get it right. If yes its pretty amazing
Sephy7777 2 years ago
great graffics shooting the guns of the butcher bird at 8:40
thanks!
the82spartans 2 years ago
this video propagation for the Soviet pilots who really were afraid this plane. Here is told that this plane is not terrible. But its characteristics very much impress!
It concedes only on bends. I think this video on the contrary could instal fear in Russian pilots да простят меня соотечественники, но самолёт очень хорош!
U1587 2 years ago
Не надо гнать. Я видел интервью советского лётчика ветерана, который рассказывал, что никто не боялся фоку. У этого самолёта было очень низкое время прохождения виража, поэтому он вообще не мог вести воздушный бой, а использовался в основном как штурмовик.
therealsleepwalker 2 years ago
Я имел в виду, что fw-190 имел очень слабое время прохождения виража, любой советский истребитель мог легко от него увернуться. Сын Хрущёва воевал на Як-7 и был сбит fw-190, но многие удивляются, потому что любой средне подготовленный летчик мог легко разделаться с фоккой.
therealsleepwalker 2 years ago
JG 54 was one one the best units of nazi fighter units. The Red Army won the war because she was the very best.
panda2309 2 years ago
Thanks for the translation U1587!
mbandarra3 2 years ago
That might have been a shock for russ playing with so advanced technology...
puchatekkubus123 2 years ago
This is a video of Russian cowboys trying to fuck with something beyond their mental capacity to comprehend.
tisoy909 2 years ago
I think you are the one that doesn't comprehend the skill and brains needed to become a fighter pilot, even 70 years ago. The soviets had a very efficient educational system with a very high standard.
flexyco 2 years ago 2
you mean 170 years ago.
tisoy909 2 years ago
Aircraft did not exist 170 years ago. I know youre trying to be an ass, but it just doesnt work.
irR4tiOn4L 2 years ago
im afraid you cannot read or spell your name correctly, why must i try to be an ass when you already are one for everyone here. the only thing superior about yaks were the numbers killed by above mentioned video.
tisoy909 2 years ago
At the end of the war the Red Army was stronger than the Western forces combined. Read it up
irR4tiOn4L 2 years ago
70 years ago, russia was the poorest country with the the most natural resources and education was one of the list of their problems, I believe this fact still stands. do you consider the Ukraine russian, or are you just considering the former soviet union as one gray area in your limited knowledge of the region. The soviets are not really a part of the countryside anymore, unless you havent heard. in this video, you see ignorant people look at equipment of the future, lol
tisoy909 2 years ago
The people who filmed this were engineers with a good understanding of technology, the plane has been researched by all the major design bureaus like Yakovlev, Lavochkin, Ilyushin, Petlyakov, Polikarpov, Mikoyan-Gurevich, Sukhoi and Tupolev. The *only* piece of technology unknown to them was the "Kommandogerät", all the other systems and concepts were already widely in use by the VVS for years. The FW190 was an evolution in design, not a revolution.
flexyco 2 years ago 14
As an example, the russians and germans used direct fuel injection when the british and some american planes were still using carburetors. Two-speed superchargers, constant speed props, gyro-instruments, advanced hydraulics/pneumatics, pilot protection, large calibre cannons, radio's... The soviets had it all. The engines were comparable, the Ash-82FN had a power output of 1850 hp, 14 cilinders/41 liter. The Mikulin AM-38 V12 had 4 valves per cilinder and fuel injection etc.
flexyco 2 years ago 5
after the war, the russians moved the german factories and imprisoned the german engineers who developed actually developed technology. If russians were as innovative as you say, the world would continue to hear about new technology from russia, all russia ever produced in the last 70 years were nothing but spy stories and things that resemble what the west innovates and you know this come on now. All thats good from russia is sold at every bar and that is vodka and blonde women. lets be honest.
tisoy909 2 years ago
It's very clear to me you live in the USA. You've been fed propaganda for most of your life, which is quite normal ;) But I can't have a normal discussion if you're constantly belittling a nation and people right out of the textbook of your own culture. Personally, although I don't speak the language, I'd rather live in Ukraine or Russia instead of the USA. If you are interested, you'll find there's enough new tech coming from Russia/Ukraine :)
flexyco 2 years ago
@flexyco, I'd take 3,000, or whatever, P51s over 300 262s, or 3,000 Shermans over 300 King Tigers, any day. I think that was the thinking, to the extent that it was thought out, of the allies in WWII and this is one of the things that helped win them the war and lose it for Germany.
12ut5 1 year ago
Soviet Laggs and Yaks were superior in many ways!
irR4tiOn4L 2 years ago
What a beautiful figther ! No matter if they´re german , allied/russian or japanese , I just love these old fighters !
RattusSwedicus 2 years ago 23
great fighter!
pulverapa 2 years ago 5
go home
EcoEve 2 years ago
you started the war you cowardly kraut douchebag
them taking revenge for all the shit they got from you was justified. sadly they didn't get your cowardly nutsi father that way you would waste time here posting gibberish nobody listens to
asshat
WASPTexas 2 years ago
ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh
what the fuck is talking about murder you senile old fart scarfsucker1?
you'll get a heartattack with that hateful personality of yours, and good riddance too
AlexDeLarge90 2 years ago 2
yeah, and they accidently flew into space first when you were sucking your mothers tit
must really suck for you knowing you got your asses kicked by the allies
now even Argentina is no longer some Peronist country no more and you're slowly decaying you loser
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago 4
че ругаються иностранци :))
unrealzoom 2 years ago 4
Inteligent post for you? What for?
Jacekte64 2 years ago 3
German, age 52 in... Argentina? Dady had to escape becouse of his war crimes? I am almost sure, you have a pillow with little Adolf on it, and saing him "good night mein fuhrer" every night. And the best - German talk about murder (you mean war crimes I gues)! Hitler & Stalin were worth each other.
Jacekte64 2 years ago 4
And pigs defated ubermensh... What a pitty. They even made better planes for their aims, beter tanks, guns etc.
Jacekte64 2 years ago 4
Спасибо
Xenophoebus 2 years ago 5
There are some very stupid posts under WWII footage.
Oh well. Great footage of a captured JG54 FW190! Loved it!
mrdfac 2 years ago 3
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Hitler was not wrong at all aboutyou people.
PrinceMustDie666 2 years ago
Remarkable ................. Draft of a not visible technical film to the normal people.
sfenodonte 2 years ago
фока класная машина,но ЛА-5 фн в бою по круче будет,мощность залпа у ФВ-190 конечно вне конкуренции
i like FW-190
galland741 2 years ago 2
I like it ))
Aachensee 2 years ago
Stalin lived ascetic life and was not interested in material goods but in power (just in case you didnt know). Stalin is over, this page is clarified in 1956 and over. Is there some specific reason people like always to remember it? Maybe as a pressure point: "You had Stalin, so you are always wrong?"
Aachensee 2 years ago
Gus: Ask your mother if it is not too late to look into a retroactive abortion.
xenophobephoto 2 years ago 2
I cried :D
VictorSobakus 2 years ago 2
Beautiful aint it! :D
terminator363 2 years ago
The plane yeah, one of the most lovely looking ones of WWII imo! I cried because of the comments below thou:P
VictorSobakus 2 years ago 3
Translation: They are comparing the factory specs, to actual specs,
making lots of comparisons to the BF 109, are saying the plane is
not so so great (LOL; bs), and are saying the best places to attack it are form the bottom and sides, while the worse is head on due to much protection and a lot of fire power.
xenophobephoto 2 years ago 4
Thanks for translating.....
Elgrande555 2 years ago
OMFGOSH thank you!
I've been wondering for SO long!
DelJunya 2 years ago
Und du bist n Penis..
Kapauz67 2 years ago
Even then they insisted on overlaying decent airplane sounds with dumb music ;-)
hamel1968 2 years ago 4
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dumb russians
gusswilliams 2 years ago
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xenophobephoto 2 years ago
Guss? LOL.
"dumb russians"
Well, Guss, the Russians captured an intact FW190,
considered to be the greatest German fighter of WWII.
They are now testing it, stating its specs, making comparisons
between it and the BF 109 (I am sure you do not speak Russian, "Gus"),
and are going over it's weak points. They then made a video of this to teach their own pilots on how to take down an FW 190. "Dumb"? No, Brilliant? Yes.
xenophobephoto 2 years ago 6
it would be nice if someone could translate this and post it so we know what the soviets thought of the fw190 in detail
rjrassets 3 years ago
It could just be me ? but somehow the fw 190 does remind me of several Russian build aircrafts during and after the war ?? ...no? . , perhaps a copy here and there... but not everywhere(like only the good features are left out)
Borat911 3 years ago
It's possible. But it's likely a combination of the fact that, no matter who you are, aerodynamics are aerodynamics, so many countries wound up heading in the same direction, and if anybody had a better approach to a given, both enemies and allies would try to copy it.
zerstorer335 3 years ago 3
yeah your're probably right on that one, thx
Borat911 2 years ago
"perhaps a copy here and there..."
it seems to me more provable that the germans copy the I-16 to make their fw-190.
after all the la-5 was russia's second aircoled engine, close cockpit, cantilever fighter. while the fw-190 was germany's first.
oraci 2 years ago
First of all it has nothing to do with you. Unless you are trying to make a point, go away.
DannyBoy777777 3 years ago
Hi fcf44, yes that's right. But the British are pretty stupid. We tend to invent things and then just give them away! Other nations then go on to develop them. I think it took us 30 years to learn that lesson!
DannyBoy777777 3 years ago
One more thing moron, I meant to say "studies war studies" - war studies is a degree you idiot.
DannyBoy777777 3 years ago
Im sorry, 3 was too high! I never quoted the HC website as a source, and yes I know they have one. Are you really suggesting that you are more informed than the staff at the HC and that YOU have FIRST hand knowledge? And there goes your dyslexia again, I never said spelling I said "WRITING." You are a retard. You cant make a single argument with resources to back your case and the best you can do is "Learn to use commas" LOL
AHMUZIK 3 years ago