@fdsdh1 I THINK they're the same company, but STAR is Ares' lower range guns. They sometimes have the exact same design and all but just cheaper hardware and in the L85A2's case, I suppose the gearbox made of plastic. Not that their make is bad, I haven't heard a complain for the STAR A2. A1's are a different story though... PLUS, I haven't heard anyone's *PLASTIC* gearbox breaking or cracking. Ever.
Not exactly... Everyone always sees the STAR gearbox and is all "OMG plastic! Cheap! Breakable!" But really, it is made of Lexan, which is bulletproof, and is much more durable than most pot metal gearboxes. Also, if something does break, you can tell what it is without taking it apart.
STAR's L85 series are made of stamped steel, thats right, steel, not aluminum or potmetal but actual carbon steel. They have a fairly low out-of-the-box failure rate but it is higher than TM (obviously) and their guns last quite a while, there aren't any specific cheap internal parts like the CA piston problem.
Almost all their guns have a quick release spring mechanism so you can swap the spring in, depending on the gun, as fast as 1-2min when you get used to it. This also means working on the guns are easier as when you open the mechbox there is no tension to cause the mechbox to shoot across the room or explode like normal ones can because of the compressed spring inside.
Higher than TM? Meaning what, I should order a spare gearbox along with a pack of BBs?
Nothing short of 1090-alloy cold-machined carbon steel will do the job. I don't care how much it costs, I want a guarantee that the only way I can break that rifle is when I do so on purpose.
How they managed to decrease power by a magnitude of 1000 AND increase failure rate by 500 o so at the same time is truly beyond me, especially considering airsoft rifles like systema cost like real ones.
Even though many STAR guns have plastic mechboxes they are far from weak. The plastic their made of is polycarbonate, same stuff Nalgene bottles and ballistic goggles are made of. It has a stronger tensile strength than the potmetal most mechboxes are cast from. STAR also designed the mechbox for their L85 series and it seems to be a modified ver.6 mechbox but its design is optimized to be as strong as possible specifically when made of polycarbonate.
please, an anyone do a dissasembly/ reassembly video of this gearbox?
alvariko60 7 months ago
How strong is this compared to most aluminium gearbox shells?
Mjarf88 8 months ago
what is the inner barrel diametre? and do u have to open howl gearbox to change spring? or is it easy as in the ics ver.? thx!
joceww 11 months ago
what is difference between star and ares are they the same?
fdsdh1 1 year ago
@fdsdh1 I THINK they're the same company, but STAR is Ares' lower range guns. They sometimes have the exact same design and all but just cheaper hardware and in the L85A2's case, I suppose the gearbox made of plastic. Not that their make is bad, I haven't heard a complain for the STAR A2. A1's are a different story though... PLUS, I haven't heard anyone's *PLASTIC* gearbox breaking or cracking. Ever.
HollyTheFireNinja 1 year ago
OMG plastick gearbox WTF?!
TheMacGywer 1 year ago
Is the carbine version worse than the normal l85?
rubino7x7 1 year ago
Yay for bullet proof gearboxes!
MrSniper16 2 years ago
This is really cool! Can you put your own motor in it (systema)? or dose it use a special, custom motor?
tntking3 3 years ago
is star agood company im thinkin of bnuyin one
Joebari192 3 years ago
Yeah, but they're really expensive, I'm getting a 2nd hand STAR L85A2 for ~$300.
UBCSWraith 2 years ago 2
plastick?
DemoN102pl 3 years ago
Not exactly... Everyone always sees the STAR gearbox and is all "OMG plastic! Cheap! Breakable!" But really, it is made of Lexan, which is bulletproof, and is much more durable than most pot metal gearboxes. Also, if something does break, you can tell what it is without taking it apart.
zed141 3 years ago 14
what is the gearbox?
toonimp 2 years ago
if u have any reason to watch airsoft videos at all, you should know what a gearbox is.
VideoGamePlayer12 2 years ago 10
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airsoftcrazy456 3 years ago
STAR's L85 series are made of stamped steel, thats right, steel, not aluminum or potmetal but actual carbon steel. They have a fairly low out-of-the-box failure rate but it is higher than TM (obviously) and their guns last quite a while, there aren't any specific cheap internal parts like the CA piston problem.
worstedcdogg 3 years ago
Almost all their guns have a quick release spring mechanism so you can swap the spring in, depending on the gun, as fast as 1-2min when you get used to it. This also means working on the guns are easier as when you open the mechbox there is no tension to cause the mechbox to shoot across the room or explode like normal ones can because of the compressed spring inside.
worstedcdogg 3 years ago
Higher than TM? Meaning what, I should order a spare gearbox along with a pack of BBs?
Nothing short of 1090-alloy cold-machined carbon steel will do the job. I don't care how much it costs, I want a guarantee that the only way I can break that rifle is when I do so on purpose.
How they managed to decrease power by a magnitude of 1000 AND increase failure rate by 500 o so at the same time is truly beyond me, especially considering airsoft rifles like systema cost like real ones.
aarrcchhoonntt 3 years ago
That is true, some gearboxes have "metal components" which are made of a poor zinc alloy.
Does anyone know what gearbox the l85a2 has? it would be great to be able to rebuild the box if the plastics died, with some metal.
binokoda 3 years ago 2
Even though many STAR guns have plastic mechboxes they are far from weak. The plastic their made of is polycarbonate, same stuff Nalgene bottles and ballistic goggles are made of. It has a stronger tensile strength than the potmetal most mechboxes are cast from. STAR also designed the mechbox for their L85 series and it seems to be a modified ver.6 mechbox but its design is optimized to be as strong as possible specifically when made of polycarbonate.
worstedcdogg 3 years ago 3
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is that plastic? wow that sucks...and its like 500 bucks
imeatinpoo 4 years ago
Yeah, you must know nothing about airsoft. Its doing a full cycle, that is something brand new in airsoft.
adult159 4 years ago
actually its lexan, which is stronger than some of the metals used to make other gearboxes
worstedcdogg 3 years ago
actually its lexan, which is stronger than some of the metals used to make other gearboxes
worstedcdogg 3 years ago
wow i dont ever remember posting that comment...i knew it was a good gear box...but thats wierd maybe it was my brother on my account
imeatinpoo 3 years ago
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TeamSTALKERS 4 years ago