@PhamvanDong hi, which battle are you referring to? On the contrary xerxes was abriliant king and he is one of the kings that brought glory to akamanid dinesty. If he was not as capable and visionary leader he woldn't be able to to the things explained in this clip. Even Greeks have a lot of respect for him, then and now! He made one big mistake and that was burning of Acropolise. As th why he did it, no one is sure!
This was a painful defeat and turnaround for the persians, and all because of a stupid man, Xerxes. He's the reason and cause of the persian empire fall. He had the greatest military army in the world, and yet lost battles brutally. It's sad how a great empire like persia, so advanced and developed, fell because of a stupid and incapable leader.
This is a bit off-topic but the guy playing Xerxes is kinda cute... Okay, that aside, I find the ancient Persians very interesting people. Their architecture amazes me, and I'd love to visit some of their sites someday.
This goes to all the 300 movie critics: I agree with you all 110%! Too bad these Hollywood pukes are more concerned with $ than making a good movie that doesn't demonize anyone.
@loukrit hahaha thanks,well we had a less eventfull history than u guys had,nice to see some people that know the history tough,i was born in italy tough 2 irish parents been here all but 5 years guess i feel irish.
i love the huge respect and humility the persian rulers had for foe's and people alike.darius and cirus were real men,why cant we have leaders like them any more?
@loukrit the movie 300 was based on a comic book that was loosely inspired by history. In other words, only an idiot would take that movie as historically authentic.
@loukrit True the media is way to liberal, they just do what ever they want. Thanks and what ever you are studying i hope you do well :) P.S. It's acctualy night right now were i am. Have a good eee next day ha ha.
@loukrit I love history and Persia is in my top 10 most favorite. I just like the Persians for there political, arhitecture and skill rather then there warfare. It was one thing when the Romans were attacking some foe most of them were primative. The Greeks were civilized and advanced just like the Persians. I just did not like there attack on Greece. P.S. Greece is number three on my list :)
First of no one lived in Iceland untill around 870 ad and we were the first people in the world to invent the althing, Parliament. Greek history is not our own but most northern europeans love and respeact history,no matter were it's from.Iceland and Greece have quet a bit in common even though we live so far away. I said in my other coment quet clearly that the movie 300 was SPINNED UP A LOT.Im studying Ancient history in my school.Both the Persians and the Greek had there flaws and advantages.
Anyone who watches 300, and uses it to form an opinion about history, are people who's opinions on anything never amount to anything. Don't worry about them.
People hating on 300 are reading too much into it. It's just an action movie for Fuck's sake; an action movie based on a graphic novel written by comic book writer, which in turn was based on a crappy movie from the 60's.
Okay, we get it, ancient Arabia was very advanced and enlightened for its time. But don't hate on a good action flick as though the movie was some kind of political statement meant to portray Arabia in a bad light. The modern Arab world does enough of that on its own already.
@monnaz90 I understand that Persia and Arabia are not synonymous. Historically and culturally speaking, however, there is a great deal of overlap. Enough overlap, apparently, to make some moronic people in the modern Arab world think that a movie based on a comic book, which was based on another movie from the 60's, in which ancient Persians were portrayed as the bad guys, is somehow an offensive political statement made against them.
@loukrit we persian always love our greek brothers and sisters the greeks them self are cool like us but for some reason the eroupeans argue about greek history like it's their own and they forgot that they were barbarian while persians and greeks ruled the world ;)
@persian802 Barbarians were all the other nations that have different language from the greeks...cause in the ears fo the greeks sounds barb barb barb (the strange different noise of not understading laguage)...so all the others were barbarians....Barbarians not only the people that came from tha caves....people for example Persians that they are also civilazed and equal to the greeks...WE HAD SOME WARS...SHIT HAPPES...BUT ALWAYS GREEK PEOPLE LOVES AND ADMIRE PERSIANS...EVEN THE ALEXANDER THE G!
wow seeing that how their creations still stand today how much detail and just how astonishing those buildings were! and look at how our stuff looks today theres no comparison they had it right the first time and makes us look like crap.
OH, I know why you said 300 was insulting, cause at one point when they were showing Athenian soldiers, they made them look like they weren't even soldiers, but rag tag militia. I knew that could not be true, cause how did Athens keep Sparta at bay when they had wars, lol. But your comment about the Persians is beautiful, I wish more people had your mindset, instead of "my country is best cause I was born there" attitude
I can't get over how the History channel just messed up so badly in history lol. hell the same thing happened at the Battle of Marathon, The Spartan Army never marched because of religious Festival and thus never fought in that battle either they did go anyways to see what damage Athens did to the Persians.
6,000 Spartans...wow just epic fail lol. further proof to show that even the History channel can fuck up so badly.
To ALL!! Iranians- This is what someone called Shahin2102 says- "In history, there were homosexuals on both sides. In history, the difference was the Persian preference for homosexual rape. Rather like today, where Muslims assert that raping a boy is acceptable to G-d if a man does it BECAUSE it is a boy. and they cite the musings of the pedophile prophet". He also believes the Shah should return to take his rightful place in Iran as KING
fuck this shit... we never fired anythin... the ymade up this shit to make em good look, we were peaceful and brought liberty to the world and fags have to make up this shit clip that we set on fire .. how much gayness is that?
fucking Persians .. they fight a group of 300 Spartans and get their ass kicked... yeah sure the Persians won the battle... but think of all the 1000s that the Spartans killed.. you fucking hairy dusty Persians have nothing on us
@HoundofOdin so are the christians ignorant too? many recent religions used zoroastrianism as their base. do your research before saying stupid remarks such as that.
All the great civilizations were polytheistic. Greece, Rome, Egypt, Assyria, the Maya and Aztec, all civilized and polytheistic. The original Monotheists, the Israelites, were a primitive, nomadic, bronze age tribe. Take Europe for example. Polytheistic for thousands of years, gives rise to great civilizations, then Monotheism takes over and civilization collapses. China, on the other hand, has never been Monotheistic, remaining Polytheistic even now and their civilization is still prospering.
@DinoCorleone lol ppl trying to make fun of the 300 Spartans now that's funny lol. fact of the matter is every time the Persians attacked the outnumbered Greeks the Greeks win lol.
@Dogmeat1950 Yes, Greeks, not only Spartans. The moment you say that in the Battle of Thermopylae 300 Spartans fought against the Persians for (who cares how much time), your opinion doesn't matter.
wait a min.... 6,000 Spartans? there where only 300 Spartans at the Battle of Thermopylae, the total force at the battle was between-6,000-7,000 Greeks only 300 Spartans were at the Battle, the rest was a mix of Greeks from all the other city-states like Thebes,Athens etc etc
The Spartans where having a religious festival and would not allow the Spartan Army to march so Leonidas, only took 300 Spartans who he called his "Royal Guard" and went to battle.
@DinoCorleone The Spartans lasted 3 days and slaughtered many of the Persians. The only easy part for the Persians was when they out-flanked them. It even said the Spartans lasted days. Trust me, look into the Spartans and you will see how great they were in real life. And 300 wasn't all of it, so get your ears fixed stfu.
According to your history book which you probably pulled outta your ass anyway. The facts mentiuoned in the video show otherwise. And no need to get cocky douche bag, so stfu yourself & close your fuckin' toillete cuz this place is startin' to stink & YouTube has no windows to open. If Spratans were so fuckin' great how come they don't exist no more... but guess what, Persians still do.
@DinoCorleone There are still Spartans in Sparta, look up Greece and look at the South-Western part, the Ancient Spartans don't exist because Rome came in, changed all of Greece law and they could train them as good. They turned into less ancient soldiers. The Persians were taken over, the Spartans weren't
@fuckturks2223 We're talking about Macedon, with Alexander as a ruler, he died and Parthia never pwned the empire while he was alive so there for you can't say Parthia pwned Alexander if he wasn't alive -_-.
@DinoCorleone You should know that most of the world is against Greece because they are jealous of her glory!That's why some documentaries claim that Alexander the Great was Fyromanjan.Now they say that the Persians easily defiated the Greeks at Thermopyles.4.000 Greeks approximately agains 200.000 Persians.The Greeks all died but the Persians lost 20.000-30.000 soldiers.That easy it was!
This documentary does not show much of the Persian supremacy, but of the Greek supremacy.
Mind you, the Greeks were supreme in Persia only for about 100 years. Thereafter the Persians regained their empire from the Greeks and even defeated the great Roman empire !
Persian empire didn't defeat Rome. It was called the Parthian empire then and that empire fell before Rome fell. Rome even put a puppet king on the Parthian throne for a while.
If you look at all the Roman-Parthian wars you clearly see both of them were pretty much equal in terms of power, but Rome got the upper hand anyway. They took the province Armenia away from Parthia.
No, there was a documentary that was uploaded on You tube that stated that the Perisans had defeated the 3 Roman emperors and took one Roman emperor as a slave.
Owing to this reason Rome could not conquer Persia and they turned Westwards and went onto conquer Britain.
Check the you tube for that documentary. I think that it is from the BBC about the Persian empire.
huh... persia was already destroyed by the greeks hundreds of years earlier. it wasnt really the persians anymore it was just some iranians fighting romans
Iranians, Persians what is the difference ?. They are both the same people. They always called themselves Iranians while the Greeks called them Persians, and the westerners to this day still call them Persians.
The only difference that now they are Muslims while previously they were all Zoroastrians !
the real persians was the persia ruled by cyrus the great and his childrens.. the cyrus dynasty and darius dynasty they should have called it. after the death of king darius the 3rd. it wasnt the great persia anymore
You understand Persians from Media, Susa, Persepolis looked upon the Pahvala as inferior to them. The Dahae confederacy were nomads in the far reaches of the Achaemenid realm that included various indo-europeans tribes. Thus not fitting of the Persian aristocracy that formed under the Achaemenid rule.
Whatever the troop numbers, thankfully the Persians were defeated, thereby allowing democracy to develop. I would any day rather live in a free democracy than in an autocratic empire. Oddly enough, in today's Iran, people are fighting for democracy, something which they definitely don't have.
democracy ( majority rules ) does not work.. it is why not many countries have it today :D but a Persian Monarchy is sucky too :S Monarchys are crap too hihi apart from Norway and Sweden.. perhaps Denmark lol.
Kiitos viestiasi! There are a lot of things not to like about Democracy. i.e. rule of the majority. What does one do when the majority doesn't make good choices? For example, the US, 2000-2008. The American electorate had to wait until things got so ridiculously bad before they started voting differently. Yet, I cannot think a better alternative. At least democracy keeps politicians from going even more against the people's good. Also one can vote people out of office, when elections work.
its clear that the persian invasion was, in terms of preparation, and the scope of it, a very ambitous project. the fact that they built a double pontoon bridge across the hellespont and march over 250, 000 men across it for 7 days and nights, well, that achievement was far beyond any of any other contemporary state at the time. It also displayed that xerxes was a capable and strong leader. His only flaw was that he was very rash.
how the hell is it a disgrace all the spartans did was help Ionia out because thay was tired of being ruled by persians. and persians was going to attack Ionia so the Spartans being nice help the figth off 10,000 people
@wwbehrouz Excuse me, I don't know what he said, but the Spartans were far greater than the Persians at that time. Look at Xerxes, we look down at him, I look down at him, but not the kings before him, for THEY weren't barbarians. Xerxes want to either kill or enslave ALL of Greece. Do you call that honorable? I call the Spartans honorable because they helped the Athenians. They were the best Greece had to offer. YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!
It was a mixed force at Thermopolae, and the position was untenable after being outflanked by the Immortals. However the Greeks could retreat in good order providing the Spartains could deny the pass to the Persian cavelry. Leonidas and the 300 Spartains were a rear guard action to stop the cavelry destroying the retreating Greeks.
my firiend, it was indeed 300 hundred spartans. what the film "300" exacarated, was that only those 300 fought. there were also 700 thespians, 1000 from platea and some others. the 300 spartans fought the 1000 "immortals" and won. it will be long to tell u here how they did it, but was very similar to how they fought the first wave of persians in the film. to conclude, this documentary is not detailing correctly, but ofcourse neither does the movie
I don't understand all the hate and violence here between people posting most of these messages. Didn't you listen to the videos and the massages they had? Listen again. I guess people back then had less hate in them than they do now!! It is not about one nation being the best, the greatest or superior; it is all about those who choose to be human and those who choose to be less!! Not about race, rather the ideal ideas! So, dear viewers, be nice to each other!! {:-)
there is curtain things you just don't discuss with people they always think they know more than you and whatever you say is wrong..let people believe what they want the truth will come out sooner or later...it's youtube..there's better things to do then to go back and forth with people who will never see things your way..people believe what they are told from home very few are opened minded..
I have a great admiration for Ancient Persia and I feel simpathy for modern Iran, but your partiality is making me change my mind!
The great Greek tragedy/drama is a Greek achievement, the principles of silogism that guide modern science are Greek (why hasn't the Eastern world developed science?), the principles of democracy and republic are Greek and Roman.
That's why Western civilization is Greek/Roman (period). I mean no offense to Persia but that's the only and simple truth!
How about the idea that there is only ONE God instead of 300 for every other day?
Has the philosophy of ONE god not had an IMMENSE effect on the world?
How about poetry? Ever heard of Rumi? Khayyam? Saadi, etc?
Science was actually started in the east. Its obvious your knowledge doesn't extend as far as it should.. and that's my point, people only study Greek achievements without looking to the east and automatically assume that Greece is the roots of everything.
Science in the East? Science is a western concept, a systematic body of knowledge based on principles of objectivity and on a specific method: the use of induction and deduction to formulate hypothesis that have to be tested in order to originate a theory. The scientific method was developed in Europe and had its base on Greek philosophical studies of logic and metaphysics.
When it comes to God, I'm not very religious, the only religion that attracts me is Buddhism.
Christianity has its origins in Judaism, since Christ was Jewish and at the time, Israel was part of the Roman Empire. Nonetheless, Christianism as we know it was developed in Rome and is now Europe's main religion thanks to Constantine, the Roman Emperor.
Nevertheless, Greek mitology still has an enormous influence in European literature and art.
Christianity is a jewish faith lol I am christian myself and have a deep respect for the jews. Don't confuse catholics with christians though we are not the same.
Christians are Catholics, Protestans and Orthodox - all those who believe in Christ as the Son of God. What Americans call "Christians" are in reality Evangelicals, followers of a branch of Protestantism! LOL
Moreover: the Bible was written by the Jews and is the sacred book of Judaism - only the New Testament was written by Christian i.e those who believe that Christ is one of the three manifestations of God!
I would love to talk about this over I.M lol not here but the bible makes it perfectly clear those who add or take away from the bible are of the devil not God. Christians are just christians no matter what they call themselves but the Catholic faith is not a christian faith due to one of the facts they added alot to the bible and took things away. A Christian is one who lives his life for Christ, one who follows the bible not add or take away from it. And Christ is God, He proved it already.
not about being respectful man, point is you said something I responded lol Just because people believe it don't mean imma be like YAY WE ALL HAVE A BELIEF no, there are souls on the line and I will help those who seek it. The fact of the matter the catholic faith don't line up with the bible. I have no respect for other faiths, just the people. To show respect to another faith is to show respect to the devil and he don't deserve my respect. But to show respect to the person is to show the love.
"Christians" (Evangelicals) still live in the Middle Ages - they don't believe in evolution and think that humans and dinossaurs lived together ca 6,000 years ago - simply PATHETIC!!!
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People who aren't christian don't believe in evolution, I know atheists who don't believe in evolution lol and don't try and make me discuss this on here lol your tempting me but I will say this. If you think you came from an ape then that's you, try make a monkey with a gorilla and see if anything happens... know why we can't? Cuz we aren't related lol you can't mix a cat and dog and get a dot or a cog but you can mix a cat with another cat. Get what I am sayin.
and this is what makes you so pathetic, you claim there is no proof, then you must know everything eh? Why don't you lower the ego for a bit and be willing to learn something.
What's truly pathetic is the constant denial of there being a God when there obviously is one lol but then what's clear to one is not always clear to another. You must not know about all the failures and the many holes that still fill the evolutionary theory. Yet you accept it as fact, who accepts something that's not even proven to be true as fact? God can be proven, evolution cannot without many key things.
the holes you attribute to god are in essence attributable to aliens - they are by large responsible for humanity's evolution. There is no god; only the spirit world, where all are equal and subject to the universal laws of vibration.
Mick and Sylvie Avery - spirit mediums. Get an Akashic reading, and ask them to provide you detailed proof of perhaps some of your childhood memories, that way you could not refute their proof, as it is impossible for them to try and cheat somehow relating to very specific aspects of your life and the people you have met that may have shaped your life. Once you have ascertained their veracity you are free to ask anything about the universe and existence with an easy conscience - good luck.
then I have a way of doing the same exact thing except more direct ;) you should know what I think about mediums. I have discussed topics with people such as that and studied what they are into. Not a safe thing to play with, I do believe in angels and demons and I don't underestimate them. Satan can tell me the same exact stuff if I asked him but then there's always a price. That's why I am with Jesus. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't deny them if I didn't know what they were about but I do.
I agree it can be dangerous to experiment with spiritualism,but generalizing before even examining the evidence can only lead to your loss.There are many individuals in this world who falsely claim mediumship or abilities to channel,but these that I mentioned to you are a unique case and as far as I know among the very few that are 100% genuine,as gleaned from my readings with them.There is no Satan nor God-only dark or light principles and disembodied beings who align themselves to these.
that's what these spirits want you to believe. I learned not to mess with occultic dealings. There is God and Satan, I've seen the evidence for myself and there's more than enough of it. Satan, who would not tell you who he really is, is very good when it comes to decieving the human mind. He perfected the art, I've read and studied on cases of ghosts and etc and each case is related in one way or another. These demonic spirits all fear Jesus and the angelic ones embrace Him. I've seen this.
an angel will tell you that Jesus is Lord while a demonic being would say otherwise and also demonic beings fear even the name alone but more importantly they only fear those who are protected by the power of God. Of course I don't mess with demons unless I am cleansed of sin. Oh no man, demons are only lying to you and it can easily be shown when they are faced by a true man or woman of God.
Some fortuitious day in the not so distant future, one may come to study our discourse in a college course to depict the unqualified fatuitiy religions impose uopn its acolytes -you are a superlative example of a victim predisposed to programming perhaps mostly due to genetics. Good luck weltering in your dogged ignorance - it brings nought but disgust to purveyors of logic and reason.
Yeah, Satan said the same thing. Difference in ignorance and endangering yourself to demonic beings. Good thing I know God for myself and I pray you will too. Christ hasn't been disproven and you get your beliefs from beings that you do not truly know for yourself. I know better than to screw around with that. I know much about it to know my friend. I pray you will wake up from the trap you so blindly walked into set by Satan himself.
"Satan" my hapless fellow is nothing more than an reptilian deity foisted upon humanity and especially the freemasons aeons ago. Jesus did exist-granted,but you should delve deeper into scientific study,it would bode better for your state,for I see right now it is an utter mess.You don't know much at all about fact or science to make such rash assertions,and the feelings of affirmation you may feel in religion is really just your spirit trying to reach out to you to set you on the right path..
I haven't given you any reasons or facts yet other than the fact that these spirits you deal with aren't what you think them to be. There's no science that goes into the investigation of the spiritual realm at least none that I know of. I believe in only what Jesus taught. But these lies you speak of are the same exact ones Satan has used himself not saying you mean to lie to me because you do believe this but I am saying Satan has lied to you. What's better than to make you not believe in him
Yes,"none that (you) know of". However new research has shown a link between hyperactivity in the temporal lobe and deep religious feelings. Nothing conclusive yet but soon we'll at least be able to dismiss your insanity as an identifiable medical condition.
Nonetheless, I will pray for you but you have hardened your heart to the things of God so I don't know. God can work miracles but He won't force you to do something you don't want. What you don't know about is much when it comes to the dealings of the spirits that are very much real. The greatest lie Satan uses is that God is not real and also that Satan is not real. You wouldn't be able to tell whose lying to you then. Satan btw is not a reptilian deity. You should do more study before you talk
I should do more study before I talk ? And what is the provenance of this study ? Some congregation of fat roman monks who "translated" the bible(which was originally very tenuous btw, almost like a manual )into the vulgate to herd sheep like yourself in their custom-made matrix of depraved self-delusion ? get real buddy you are fooling yourself and it's become a grand spectacle - faculty to think independently ? you have none, sadly.
Your conclusions aren't entirely true; do you have any idea about the influence of Elam, Sumer, Babylon, Egypt, India, China, Phoenicia,etc, in human development history?! Greek/Romans/Western intellectuals weren't isolated persons, so they had the contacts with eastern works about science, literature, myth, etc. What admiration do you have for Persia?! Dont you think that building and managing an empire like that requires having some extra ordinary base and idea?!
It isnt supernatural! Btw, the current idea about what you called ironically supernatural is being changed because some of them have their roots even in calculation so wrong or right or right in some cases, they are worthy to study. About history of Greece/Romans and Persia you need to study more!
So did the Astecs and Incas: they observed the skies and came up with incredible calculations with the most absolute accuracy about the movement of planets but still, they never made of science the CENTER of their culture!
And I think that giving science such a position (as the West has done) is not always positive: we can send rockets into space but can't solve problems like hunger and poverty. And modern technolgy has caused many problems like global warming.
@PhamvanDong hi, which battle are you referring to? On the contrary xerxes was abriliant king and he is one of the kings that brought glory to akamanid dinesty. If he was not as capable and visionary leader he woldn't be able to to the things explained in this clip. Even Greeks have a lot of respect for him, then and now! He made one big mistake and that was burning of Acropolise. As th why he did it, no one is sure!
wwbehrouz 2 weeks ago
This was a painful defeat and turnaround for the persians, and all because of a stupid man, Xerxes. He's the reason and cause of the persian empire fall. He had the greatest military army in the world, and yet lost battles brutally. It's sad how a great empire like persia, so advanced and developed, fell because of a stupid and incapable leader.
PhamvanDong 2 weeks ago
This is a bit off-topic but the guy playing Xerxes is kinda cute... Okay, that aside, I find the ancient Persians very interesting people. Their architecture amazes me, and I'd love to visit some of their sites someday.
arahavez08 2 weeks ago
People talking shit about the movie 300. Not a single fuck was given!
MrJazztobak 3 weeks ago
lessons to learn from this:don't mess with europeans,mess with anyone except europeans
hilletehnoob 1 month ago
@JuliusCaesar1914 THIS IS SPARTAA!!!!. lol chill its a movie based on a comic i believe.
iparra393 2 months ago
wow the like and dislike bar looks like gandalfs wand
Xplosiveduelsgaming 2 months ago
Persia gradually became a decadent society, but they had a good run.
KingHarkiniann 3 months ago
Why the bull's on the Greek ships' sails?
vinnys025 4 months ago
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icyicemanicyicy 5 months ago
@loukrit i am glad to see that i wasn't the only one that thought that movie was insulting garbage to both Greeks and Persians
LordAzanko 5 months ago
OMG these version of xerxes and alexander are so damn hot!!!!! yummieeeeee
onagaganondorf 5 months ago
Persia could have conquered Greece using full time invansions and then maybe Rome. Then it could be an empire connecting Europe and Near Asia.
saigo201 6 months ago
This goes to all the 300 movie critics: I agree with you all 110%! Too bad these Hollywood pukes are more concerned with $ than making a good movie that doesn't demonize anyone.
ejr23 6 months ago
@loukrit hahaha thanks,well we had a less eventfull history than u guys had,nice to see some people that know the history tough,i was born in italy tough 2 irish parents been here all but 5 years guess i feel irish.
irishboy2k10 6 months ago
i love the huge respect and humility the persian rulers had for foe's and people alike.darius and cirus were real men,why cant we have leaders like them any more?
irishboy2k10 6 months ago 2
@loukrit the movie 300 was based on a comic book that was loosely inspired by history. In other words, only an idiot would take that movie as historically authentic.
harry911tk 7 months ago
@loukrit True the media is way to liberal, they just do what ever they want. Thanks and what ever you are studying i hope you do well :) P.S. It's acctualy night right now were i am. Have a good eee next day ha ha.
TheIcelandicPatriot 7 months ago
@loukrit I love history and Persia is in my top 10 most favorite. I just like the Persians for there political, arhitecture and skill rather then there warfare. It was one thing when the Romans were attacking some foe most of them were primative. The Greeks were civilized and advanced just like the Persians. I just did not like there attack on Greece. P.S. Greece is number three on my list :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 7 months ago
First of no one lived in Iceland untill around 870 ad and we were the first people in the world to invent the althing, Parliament. Greek history is not our own but most northern europeans love and respeact history,no matter were it's from.Iceland and Greece have quet a bit in common even though we live so far away. I said in my other coment quet clearly that the movie 300 was SPINNED UP A LOT.Im studying Ancient history in my school.Both the Persians and the Greek had there flaws and advantages.
TheIcelandicPatriot 7 months ago
@loukrit I know the movie 300 was quet a bit spinned up but it looks like your kissing there asses instead of respeacting them.
TheIcelandicPatriot 7 months ago
Very well said! Thank you!
monnaz90 8 months ago
He said for a short history, Europe and Asia were one, because of that bridge.
I don't know what he meant, but Europe and Asia are one land mass, always have been.
superhamzah85 8 months ago
Anyone who watches 300, and uses it to form an opinion about history, are people who's opinions on anything never amount to anything. Don't worry about them.
superhamzah85 8 months ago
People hating on 300 are reading too much into it. It's just an action movie for Fuck's sake; an action movie based on a graphic novel written by comic book writer, which in turn was based on a crappy movie from the 60's.
Okay, we get it, ancient Arabia was very advanced and enlightened for its time. But don't hate on a good action flick as though the movie was some kind of political statement meant to portray Arabia in a bad light. The modern Arab world does enough of that on its own already.
Walabinx 8 months ago
@Walabinx Its ancient persia, not arabia, these are two different regions and very different in culture and history.
monnaz90 8 months ago
@monnaz90 I understand that Persia and Arabia are not synonymous. Historically and culturally speaking, however, there is a great deal of overlap. Enough overlap, apparently, to make some moronic people in the modern Arab world think that a movie based on a comic book, which was based on another movie from the 60's, in which ancient Persians were portrayed as the bad guys, is somehow an offensive political statement made against them.
Walabinx 8 months ago 2
@loukrit God bless you. Well said
17iran 8 months ago
@loukrit we persian always love our greek brothers and sisters the greeks them self are cool like us but for some reason the eroupeans argue about greek history like it's their own and they forgot that they were barbarian while persians and greeks ruled the world ;)
persian802 9 months ago 27
@persian802 You are god my friend!God bless you!
koskinas97 7 months ago
@persian802 True
kostakii1030 2 weeks ago in playlist World History
@persian802 Barbarians were all the other nations that have different language from the greeks...cause in the ears fo the greeks sounds barb barb barb (the strange different noise of not understading laguage)...so all the others were barbarians....Barbarians not only the people that came from tha caves....people for example Persians that they are also civilazed and equal to the greeks...WE HAD SOME WARS...SHIT HAPPES...BUT ALWAYS GREEK PEOPLE LOVES AND ADMIRE PERSIANS...EVEN THE ALEXANDER THE G!
SKATOMOGOLOS 2 weeks ago
@persian802 thankyou spokesman of all persians, also why are persians fags?
2zitzit 15 hours ago
the persian army sucked-they only won wars by numbers-when the greeks tested their skill they got whooped everytime.
jacksok2 9 months ago
Alexander the Great WAS Greece....
DieserBenuterIstCool 10 months ago
Why are the Greek soldiers shown like Macedonian Phalangites ?
PompeusMagnus 11 months ago
lolol trollin' over an education video.
noobs
LatiosInABox 11 months ago
we should all live in the jamaican empire and smoke weed.peace
MrFighter91 11 months ago 12
I learnt today that how Great the Persians Are, with Great Histroy.
AwaraAzwatan 11 months ago
gefura... pw pw orexei...
maklomite 1 year ago
@loukrit Thank you Greek man ....And we held you in great respect as long as the world stands!
TheGolbanoo 1 year ago 3
this is my homework for global studies
bluedude34 1 year ago
wow seeing that how their creations still stand today how much detail and just how astonishing those buildings were! and look at how our stuff looks today theres no comparison they had it right the first time and makes us look like crap.
insanechickens 1 year ago 3
The Spartans were the Nazis of their day. How the fuck can you glorify eugenics?
bonfirejovi 1 year ago 5
@loukrit
OH, I know why you said 300 was insulting, cause at one point when they were showing Athenian soldiers, they made them look like they weren't even soldiers, but rag tag militia. I knew that could not be true, cause how did Athens keep Sparta at bay when they had wars, lol. But your comment about the Persians is beautiful, I wish more people had your mindset, instead of "my country is best cause I was born there" attitude
chevytheplayer 1 year ago
Roman roads>Persian roads
whitesox889 1 year ago
@whitesox889 Persians = liberator of jews while Romans = slave masters.
bonfirejovi 1 year ago 5
The 300 spartans and thousands of Greeks fought to the death.
If they hadn't all of Greece would have been taken over.
Do you call that stupid? I think not, apparently the Spartans know more than all of you Persian trolls combined when it comes to war.
Salien1999 1 year ago
THIS IS SPARTA!
MeridaMaya 1 year ago
Why did Xerxes screw up ....
natcaasi 1 year ago
Believe it or not but in the Persian wars the Spartans sucked donkey balls, the Athenians were the ones that actually did most of the fighting.
TemplarOfNight 1 year ago
@TemplarOfNight The Spartans didn't really fight in those wars y. they didn't join till near the end. for they saw it as Athens problem not Sparta.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 Either that or they couldn't march a whole army at that speed. Their armor was about 70 pounds each soldier you know?
Salien1999 1 year ago
wow....done watching the rest of this show they messed up so badly lol.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
I can't get over how the History channel just messed up so badly in history lol. hell the same thing happened at the Battle of Marathon, The Spartan Army never marched because of religious Festival and thus never fought in that battle either they did go anyways to see what damage Athens did to the Persians.
6,000 Spartans...wow just epic fail lol. further proof to show that even the History channel can fuck up so badly.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
each to their own, race and time that why they are our history, we must learn from it and better ourself as one
kengster25k 1 year ago
To ALL!! Iranians- This is what someone called Shahin2102 says- "In history, there were homosexuals on both sides. In history, the difference was the Persian preference for homosexual rape. Rather like today, where Muslims assert that raping a boy is acceptable to G-d if a man does it BECAUSE it is a boy. and they cite the musings of the pedophile prophet". He also believes the Shah should return to take his rightful place in Iran as KING
5hitter 1 year ago
fuck this shit... we never fired anythin... the ymade up this shit to make em good look, we were peaceful and brought liberty to the world and fags have to make up this shit clip that we set on fire .. how much gayness is that?
persiansownyourface 1 year ago
fucking Persians .. they fight a group of 300 Spartans and get their ass kicked... yeah sure the Persians won the battle... but think of all the 1000s that the Spartans killed.. you fucking hairy dusty Persians have nothing on us
SPARTANSSS
tmlfan92 1 year ago
shutt upppppp, we were more peaceful and felt bad, unlike you violent greeks that worshipped millions of fake gods hahahahahhahahha
TabbyAngel2 1 year ago
And Persians were so ignorant that, just like the Jews, only one god wanted anything to do with them.
HoundofOdin 1 year ago
@HoundofOdin so are the christians ignorant too? many recent religions used zoroastrianism as their base. do your research before saying stupid remarks such as that.
TabbyAngel2 1 year ago
No, Christians are so ignorant that they worship a dead man they think is a god. Monotheism in general is an ignorant and primitive idea.
HoundofOdin 1 year ago
@HoundofOdin who are you to claim which religion is correct? but the general population would agree that polytheism is primitive not monotheism..
TabbyAngel2 1 year ago
All the great civilizations were polytheistic. Greece, Rome, Egypt, Assyria, the Maya and Aztec, all civilized and polytheistic. The original Monotheists, the Israelites, were a primitive, nomadic, bronze age tribe. Take Europe for example. Polytheistic for thousands of years, gives rise to great civilizations, then Monotheism takes over and civilization collapses. China, on the other hand, has never been Monotheistic, remaining Polytheistic even now and their civilization is still prospering.
HoundofOdin 1 year ago
i will send you a message because what i wrote is too long lol
TabbyAngel2 1 year ago
@HoundofOdin You know, you have a point. Jesus was a boring Jew.
maugustyniak 1 year ago
shut tha fuck up faggot.... little cunt go fix gay marrige in ur country.. fuckin pieceof shit... fuckin rootless red neck ... respect us bitch
persiansownyourface 1 year ago
they should of just put the soldiers on the battle ships instead of making a bridge with them... lol
mysteryRR 1 year ago
ATTENTION!!! @ 4:33
"...The Persians easily destroyed the meager Spartan force Demophilus has left behind as bait & march toward Athens."
So much for the 300 bullshit y'all love!!!
DinoCorleone 1 year ago 17
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hardluckking13 1 year ago
@DinoCorleone lol ppl trying to make fun of the 300 Spartans now that's funny lol. fact of the matter is every time the Persians attacked the outnumbered Greeks the Greeks win lol.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 Yes, Greeks, not only Spartans. The moment you say that in the Battle of Thermopylae 300 Spartans fought against the Persians for (who cares how much time), your opinion doesn't matter.
TemplarOfNight 1 year ago
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@Dogmeat1950
ATTENTION!!! @ 4:33
"...The Persians easily destroyed the meager Spartan force Demophilus has left behind as bait & march toward Athens."
nimrooo 1 year ago
wait a min.... 6,000 Spartans? there where only 300 Spartans at the Battle of Thermopylae, the total force at the battle was between-6,000-7,000 Greeks only 300 Spartans were at the Battle, the rest was a mix of Greeks from all the other city-states like Thebes,Athens etc etc
The Spartans where having a religious festival and would not allow the Spartan Army to march so Leonidas, only took 300 Spartans who he called his "Royal Guard" and went to battle.
Wow history channel you failed lol.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950
history channel failed???! You're quoting from a comic book and a hollywood movie and History channel failed?!???
You sir are a fucking moron.
nimrooo 1 year ago
@DinoCorleone
I'm not sure what part of that battle you're referring to as bullshit.
Soulsphere001 1 year ago
@DinoCorleone The Spartans lasted 3 days and slaughtered many of the Persians. The only easy part for the Persians was when they out-flanked them. It even said the Spartans lasted days. Trust me, look into the Spartans and you will see how great they were in real life. And 300 wasn't all of it, so get your ears fixed stfu.
Salien1999 1 year ago
@Salien1999
According to your history book which you probably pulled outta your ass anyway. The facts mentiuoned in the video show otherwise. And no need to get cocky douche bag, so stfu yourself & close your fuckin' toillete cuz this place is startin' to stink & YouTube has no windows to open. If Spratans were so fuckin' great how come they don't exist no more... but guess what, Persians still do.
DinoCorleone 1 year ago
@DinoCorleone There are still Spartans in Sparta, look up Greece and look at the South-Western part, the Ancient Spartans don't exist because Rome came in, changed all of Greece law and they could train them as good. They turned into less ancient soldiers. The Persians were taken over, the Spartans weren't
Salien1999 1 year ago
@Salien1999 romans took over greece not persia
infact the parthians owned the romans
fuckturks2223 1 year ago
@fuckturks2223 I said Persia was taken over, not taken over from Rome. Macedonia, Greece took over Persia. Yeah, Greece pwned Persia.
Salien1999 1 year ago
@Salien1999 yeah but parthia later powned alexander!
fuckturks2223 1 year ago
@fuckturks2223 Alexander died of an arrow through his stomach/chest and sickness, not in battle.
Salien1999 1 year ago
@Salien1999 when i said that i didn´t mean that he got killed
i mean he´s empire got pwned
fuckturks2223 1 year ago
@fuckturks2223 We're talking about Macedon, with Alexander as a ruler, he died and Parthia never pwned the empire while he was alive so there for you can't say Parthia pwned Alexander if he wasn't alive -_-.
Salien1999 1 year ago
@Salien1999 Greece didn't take over Persia, Alexander took over Persia like he did with Greece
rezenatore 10 months ago
@rezenatore Alexander was born in and grew up in Macedonia, a part of Greece. Then he was king, and when he was king he took over Persia.
Salien1999 10 months ago
@DinoCorleone
Nah that is bullshit.
PoppingSanta 1 year ago
@DinoCorleone the tale of the 300 spartans is not historical fact..its a MYTH..
PPiTTislakatamia 8 months ago
@DinoCorleone The Spartans get owned in the end of 300...what you talking about.
rustygates 7 months ago
@DinoCorleone You should know that most of the world is against Greece because they are jealous of her glory!That's why some documentaries claim that Alexander the Great was Fyromanjan.Now they say that the Persians easily defiated the Greeks at Thermopyles.4.000 Greeks approximately agains 200.000 Persians.The Greeks all died but the Persians lost 20.000-30.000 soldiers.That easy it was!
koskinas97 7 months ago
i am jew so i believe my ancestors were persians because they were from jerusalem
madoxhell666 2 years ago 2
there jews all over the globe dude all over white chinese black white all
613bo 2 years ago
@madoxhell666
yeah man, everybody was just middle easy people back then
kskashe 2 years ago
Greeks couldn't hold the empire together they just paid off the satraps (state leaders) until they ran out of persian money
PD7399 2 years ago
This documentary does not show much of the Persian supremacy, but of the Greek supremacy.
Mind you, the Greeks were supreme in Persia only for about 100 years. Thereafter the Persians regained their empire from the Greeks and even defeated the great Roman empire !
sahajad 2 years ago
@sahajad
Yes,but it was made at time to change the course of human history...
indalecio21 2 years ago
that disappointed me I wish they had showed the conquest of the Lydian and Babylonian empires.
KiljanArslan 2 years ago
@sahajad
Persian empire didn't defeat Rome. It was called the Parthian empire then and that empire fell before Rome fell. Rome even put a puppet king on the Parthian throne for a while.
If you look at all the Roman-Parthian wars you clearly see both of them were pretty much equal in terms of power, but Rome got the upper hand anyway. They took the province Armenia away from Parthia.
soulripper31 1 year ago
@soulripper31
No, there was a documentary that was uploaded on You tube that stated that the Perisans had defeated the 3 Roman emperors and took one Roman emperor as a slave.
Owing to this reason Rome could not conquer Persia and they turned Westwards and went onto conquer Britain.
Check the you tube for that documentary. I think that it is from the BBC about the Persian empire.
sahajad 1 year ago
huh... persia was already destroyed by the greeks hundreds of years earlier. it wasnt really the persians anymore it was just some iranians fighting romans
lifes40123 1 year ago
@lifes40123
Iranians, Persians what is the difference ?. They are both the same people. They always called themselves Iranians while the Greeks called them Persians, and the westerners to this day still call them Persians.
The only difference that now they are Muslims while previously they were all Zoroastrians !
sahajad 1 year ago 3
the real persians was the persia ruled by cyrus the great and his childrens.. the cyrus dynasty and darius dynasty they should have called it. after the death of king darius the 3rd. it wasnt the great persia anymore
lifes40123 1 year ago
@sahajad
You probably mean the Sassanid empire(true revival of the persian empire after Alexander brought it down)
Sassanid empire was also pretty much just as strong the Roman empire
soulripper31 1 year ago
@soulripper31
Yes, I suppose it was they who had defeated 3 Roman Emperors and had taken one of them as a slave !
sahajad 1 year ago
@sahajad
You understand Persians from Media, Susa, Persepolis looked upon the Pahvala as inferior to them. The Dahae confederacy were nomads in the far reaches of the Achaemenid realm that included various indo-europeans tribes. Thus not fitting of the Persian aristocracy that formed under the Achaemenid rule.
immortal117 1 year ago
Whatever the troop numbers, thankfully the Persians were defeated, thereby allowing democracy to develop. I would any day rather live in a free democracy than in an autocratic empire. Oddly enough, in today's Iran, people are fighting for democracy, something which they definitely don't have.
perusperiaate5 2 years ago
democracy ( majority rules ) does not work.. it is why not many countries have it today :D but a Persian Monarchy is sucky too :S Monarchys are crap too hihi apart from Norway and Sweden.. perhaps Denmark lol.
we are to thank Rome for a Republic :D
jgsuomi 2 years ago
Kiitos viestiasi! There are a lot of things not to like about Democracy. i.e. rule of the majority. What does one do when the majority doesn't make good choices? For example, the US, 2000-2008. The American electorate had to wait until things got so ridiculously bad before they started voting differently. Yet, I cannot think a better alternative. At least democracy keeps politicians from going even more against the people's good. Also one can vote people out of office, when elections work.
perusperiaate5 2 years ago
@perusperiaate5 .... and what is wrong with Republic ?? :S hihi Republic is your favorite and you know it XD hihihahahaha..
jgsuomi 2 years ago
I guess nobody sensed the sarcasm in that comment...
ArturArtorius 2 years ago
its clear that the persian invasion was, in terms of preparation, and the scope of it, a very ambitous project. the fact that they built a double pontoon bridge across the hellespont and march over 250, 000 men across it for 7 days and nights, well, that achievement was far beyond any of any other contemporary state at the time. It also displayed that xerxes was a capable and strong leader. His only flaw was that he was very rash.
jamaicanification 2 years ago
The guy at 3:30 keeps talking about the Bosphorus. He's wrong, it was the Dardenels.
gamesbok 2 years ago
Errare humanum est!!
Hyperactive1979 2 years ago
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ArturArtorius 2 years ago
What Spartans did in thoses days where a disgrace to human history. they are called Andorians. They have not much credits to be given to.
wwbehrouz 2 years ago
how the hell is it a disgrace all the spartans did was help Ionia out because thay was tired of being ruled by persians. and persians was going to attack Ionia so the Spartans being nice help the figth off 10,000 people
ciscoaka 2 years ago
@wwbehrouz Spartans kick ass.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@wwbehrouz Excuse me, I don't know what he said, but the Spartans were far greater than the Persians at that time. Look at Xerxes, we look down at him, I look down at him, but not the kings before him, for THEY weren't barbarians. Xerxes want to either kill or enslave ALL of Greece. Do you call that honorable? I call the Spartans honorable because they helped the Athenians. They were the best Greece had to offer. YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!
Salien1999 1 year ago
It was a mixed force at Thermopolae, and the position was untenable after being outflanked by the Immortals. However the Greeks could retreat in good order providing the Spartains could deny the pass to the Persian cavelry. Leonidas and the 300 Spartains were a rear guard action to stop the cavelry destroying the retreating Greeks.
gamesbok 2 years ago
believe me, I know the history, I was being slightly sarcastic when I mentioned it
ArturArtorius 2 years ago
u kno nothing ...
namiomani 2 years ago
hey atleast the truth about hollywood's biggest shit-bag of a fake movie called "300" is out, there was 6000 of them, and they didn't do shit
PersianLord1995 2 years ago
my firiend, it was indeed 300 hundred spartans. what the film "300" exacarated, was that only those 300 fought. there were also 700 thespians, 1000 from platea and some others. the 300 spartans fought the 1000 "immortals" and won. it will be long to tell u here how they did it, but was very similar to how they fought the first wave of persians in the film. to conclude, this documentary is not detailing correctly, but ofcourse neither does the movie
ppavlouk 2 years ago
the war was written down by herodius the greek historian....that says it all
TheBarathbushan 2 years ago
aaah but also the victor :S so who knows what all happened hihi..
jgsuomi 2 years ago
@jgsuomi hihi haha hoho haha hi ha ho hi hi hah :D :S
LaGresse 2 years ago
Man all this gay hate.
Give it a rest,will ye? We live in the 21th century and I doubt Cyrus would disgrace gays as lesser people.
Go watch some yuri 83
Tristan129 2 years ago 4
yes thx
Indigos8rboi 2 years ago
I don't understand all the hate and violence here between people posting most of these messages. Didn't you listen to the videos and the massages they had? Listen again. I guess people back then had less hate in them than they do now!! It is not about one nation being the best, the greatest or superior; it is all about those who choose to be human and those who choose to be less!! Not about race, rather the ideal ideas! So, dear viewers, be nice to each other!! {:-)
wwbehrouz 2 years ago 27
Well said.
Tristan129 2 years ago
I have a very simple and generalised explanations why people here have hate messages, its call emotions and they are ALL HUMANs!
gerjaison 2 years ago
@wwbehrouz I completely agree. On any number of these "Engineering an Empire" shows on youtube, there is a lot of hate. Those people need to grow up.
UNDComrade 1 year ago
there is curtain things you just don't discuss with people they always think they know more than you and whatever you say is wrong..let people believe what they want the truth will come out sooner or later...it's youtube..there's better things to do then to go back and forth with people who will never see things your way..people believe what they are told from home very few are opened minded..
womanondebass 3 years ago 14
Its sorta sad how the west tends to model itself to Greece. Would they still do that if Greece had a voice in the modern world?
Nope! They would push Greek achievements into the shadows like they have done with those of Iranian origin.
NimaSun 3 years ago
I have a great admiration for Ancient Persia and I feel simpathy for modern Iran, but your partiality is making me change my mind!
The great Greek tragedy/drama is a Greek achievement, the principles of silogism that guide modern science are Greek (why hasn't the Eastern world developed science?), the principles of democracy and republic are Greek and Roman.
That's why Western civilization is Greek/Roman (period). I mean no offense to Persia but that's the only and simple truth!
crispiva1 3 years ago
How about the idea that there is only ONE God instead of 300 for every other day?
Has the philosophy of ONE god not had an IMMENSE effect on the world?
How about poetry? Ever heard of Rumi? Khayyam? Saadi, etc?
Science was actually started in the east. Its obvious your knowledge doesn't extend as far as it should.. and that's my point, people only study Greek achievements without looking to the east and automatically assume that Greece is the roots of everything.
NimaSun 3 years ago 3
Science in the East? Science is a western concept, a systematic body of knowledge based on principles of objectivity and on a specific method: the use of induction and deduction to formulate hypothesis that have to be tested in order to originate a theory. The scientific method was developed in Europe and had its base on Greek philosophical studies of logic and metaphysics.
crispiva1 3 years ago
I forgot to add Epistemology.
When it comes to God, I'm not very religious, the only religion that attracts me is Buddhism.
Christianity has its origins in Judaism, since Christ was Jewish and at the time, Israel was part of the Roman Empire. Nonetheless, Christianism as we know it was developed in Rome and is now Europe's main religion thanks to Constantine, the Roman Emperor.
Nevertheless, Greek mitology still has an enormous influence in European literature and art.
crispiva1 3 years ago
Sorry: *mythology
crispiva1 3 years ago
Christianity is a jewish faith lol I am christian myself and have a deep respect for the jews. Don't confuse catholics with christians though we are not the same.
1989dman 3 years ago
Christians are Catholics, Protestans and Orthodox - all those who believe in Christ as the Son of God. What Americans call "Christians" are in reality Evangelicals, followers of a branch of Protestantism! LOL
crispiva1 3 years ago
Moreover: the Bible was written by the Jews and is the sacred book of Judaism - only the New Testament was written by Christian i.e those who believe that Christ is one of the three manifestations of God!
crispiva1 3 years ago
I would love to talk about this over I.M lol not here but the bible makes it perfectly clear those who add or take away from the bible are of the devil not God. Christians are just christians no matter what they call themselves but the Catholic faith is not a christian faith due to one of the facts they added alot to the bible and took things away. A Christian is one who lives his life for Christ, one who follows the bible not add or take away from it. And Christ is God, He proved it already.
1989dman 3 years ago
Honorable people are more respectful of other people and their religion. I have no religion, but I'm more respectful of others than you are!
crispiva1 3 years ago
not about being respectful man, point is you said something I responded lol Just because people believe it don't mean imma be like YAY WE ALL HAVE A BELIEF no, there are souls on the line and I will help those who seek it. The fact of the matter the catholic faith don't line up with the bible. I have no respect for other faiths, just the people. To show respect to another faith is to show respect to the devil and he don't deserve my respect. But to show respect to the person is to show the love.
1989dman 3 years ago
"Christians" (Evangelicals) still live in the Middle Ages - they don't believe in evolution and think that humans and dinossaurs lived together ca 6,000 years ago - simply PATHETIC!!!
crispiva1 3 years ago 2
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People who aren't christian don't believe in evolution, I know atheists who don't believe in evolution lol and don't try and make me discuss this on here lol your tempting me but I will say this. If you think you came from an ape then that's you, try make a monkey with a gorilla and see if anything happens... know why we can't? Cuz we aren't related lol you can't mix a cat and dog and get a dot or a cog but you can mix a cat with another cat. Get what I am sayin.
1989dman 3 years ago
PATHETIC!!!!!
crispiva1 3 years ago 2
and this is what makes you so pathetic, you claim there is no proof, then you must know everything eh? Why don't you lower the ego for a bit and be willing to learn something.
1989dman 3 years ago
What's truly pathetic is the constant denial of there being a God when there obviously is one lol but then what's clear to one is not always clear to another. You must not know about all the failures and the many holes that still fill the evolutionary theory. Yet you accept it as fact, who accepts something that's not even proven to be true as fact? God can be proven, evolution cannot without many key things.
1989dman 3 years ago
Truly pathetic are people like YOU!!!!
God is not up to discussion!! Either you believe in "it" or not! There is no "proof" of its existence and that's the beauty of it!
crispiva1 3 years ago
the holes you attribute to god are in essence attributable to aliens - they are by large responsible for humanity's evolution. There is no god; only the spirit world, where all are equal and subject to the universal laws of vibration.
ScarletCatMan 3 years ago
There's proof for God there is none for aliens. Also you cannot say there is no god when you don't even know yourself so you just lied :P
1989dman 3 years ago
How incredibly silly. You might ask the freemasons for proof of aliens - they know all about it.
God in the sense of christianity, i.e. a singular being does not exist - I do have proof but you wouldn't believe it...
ScarletCatMan 3 years ago
then you would be able to prove something no man has been able to :P but if you got the proof please share it.
1989dman 3 years ago
Mick and Sylvie Avery - spirit mediums. Get an Akashic reading, and ask them to provide you detailed proof of perhaps some of your childhood memories, that way you could not refute their proof, as it is impossible for them to try and cheat somehow relating to very specific aspects of your life and the people you have met that may have shaped your life. Once you have ascertained their veracity you are free to ask anything about the universe and existence with an easy conscience - good luck.
ScarletCatMan 3 years ago
then I have a way of doing the same exact thing except more direct ;) you should know what I think about mediums. I have discussed topics with people such as that and studied what they are into. Not a safe thing to play with, I do believe in angels and demons and I don't underestimate them. Satan can tell me the same exact stuff if I asked him but then there's always a price. That's why I am with Jesus. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't deny them if I didn't know what they were about but I do.
1989dman 3 years ago
I agree it can be dangerous to experiment with spiritualism,but generalizing before even examining the evidence can only lead to your loss.There are many individuals in this world who falsely claim mediumship or abilities to channel,but these that I mentioned to you are a unique case and as far as I know among the very few that are 100% genuine,as gleaned from my readings with them.There is no Satan nor God-only dark or light principles and disembodied beings who align themselves to these.
ScarletCatMan 3 years ago 2
that's what these spirits want you to believe. I learned not to mess with occultic dealings. There is God and Satan, I've seen the evidence for myself and there's more than enough of it. Satan, who would not tell you who he really is, is very good when it comes to decieving the human mind. He perfected the art, I've read and studied on cases of ghosts and etc and each case is related in one way or another. These demonic spirits all fear Jesus and the angelic ones embrace Him. I've seen this.
1989dman 3 years ago
an angel will tell you that Jesus is Lord while a demonic being would say otherwise and also demonic beings fear even the name alone but more importantly they only fear those who are protected by the power of God. Of course I don't mess with demons unless I am cleansed of sin. Oh no man, demons are only lying to you and it can easily be shown when they are faced by a true man or woman of God.
1989dman 3 years ago
Some fortuitious day in the not so distant future, one may come to study our discourse in a college course to depict the unqualified fatuitiy religions impose uopn its acolytes -you are a superlative example of a victim predisposed to programming perhaps mostly due to genetics. Good luck weltering in your dogged ignorance - it brings nought but disgust to purveyors of logic and reason.
ScarletCatMan 3 years ago
Yeah, Satan said the same thing. Difference in ignorance and endangering yourself to demonic beings. Good thing I know God for myself and I pray you will too. Christ hasn't been disproven and you get your beliefs from beings that you do not truly know for yourself. I know better than to screw around with that. I know much about it to know my friend. I pray you will wake up from the trap you so blindly walked into set by Satan himself.
1989dman 3 years ago
"Satan" my hapless fellow is nothing more than an reptilian deity foisted upon humanity and especially the freemasons aeons ago. Jesus did exist-granted,but you should delve deeper into scientific study,it would bode better for your state,for I see right now it is an utter mess.You don't know much at all about fact or science to make such rash assertions,and the feelings of affirmation you may feel in religion is really just your spirit trying to reach out to you to set you on the right path..
ScarletCatMan 3 years ago
I haven't given you any reasons or facts yet other than the fact that these spirits you deal with aren't what you think them to be. There's no science that goes into the investigation of the spiritual realm at least none that I know of. I believe in only what Jesus taught. But these lies you speak of are the same exact ones Satan has used himself not saying you mean to lie to me because you do believe this but I am saying Satan has lied to you. What's better than to make you not believe in him
1989dman 3 years ago
Yes,"none that (you) know of". However new research has shown a link between hyperactivity in the temporal lobe and deep religious feelings. Nothing conclusive yet but soon we'll at least be able to dismiss your insanity as an identifiable medical condition.
brendant19 2 years ago
Nonetheless, I will pray for you but you have hardened your heart to the things of God so I don't know. God can work miracles but He won't force you to do something you don't want. What you don't know about is much when it comes to the dealings of the spirits that are very much real. The greatest lie Satan uses is that God is not real and also that Satan is not real. You wouldn't be able to tell whose lying to you then. Satan btw is not a reptilian deity. You should do more study before you talk
1989dman 3 years ago
I should do more study before I talk ? And what is the provenance of this study ? Some congregation of fat roman monks who "translated" the bible(which was originally very tenuous btw, almost like a manual )into the vulgate to herd sheep like yourself in their custom-made matrix of depraved self-delusion ? get real buddy you are fooling yourself and it's become a grand spectacle - faculty to think independently ? you have none, sadly.
ScarletCatMan 3 years ago 5
Crazy?
No, what are you talking about, I don't think you're crazy. Where'd you get that idea?
Zekkron 2 years ago
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stangerdmcl 2 years ago
Your conclusions aren't entirely true; do you have any idea about the influence of Elam, Sumer, Babylon, Egypt, India, China, Phoenicia,etc, in human development history?! Greek/Romans/Western intellectuals weren't isolated persons, so they had the contacts with eastern works about science, literature, myth, etc. What admiration do you have for Persia?! Dont you think that building and managing an empire like that requires having some extra ordinary base and idea?!
surenashir 3 years ago
It isnt supernatural! Btw, the current idea about what you called ironically supernatural is being changed because some of them have their roots even in calculation so wrong or right or right in some cases, they are worthy to study. About history of Greece/Romans and Persia you need to study more!
surenashir 3 years ago
So did the Astecs and Incas: they observed the skies and came up with incredible calculations with the most absolute accuracy about the movement of planets but still, they never made of science the CENTER of their culture!
And I think that giving science such a position (as the West has done) is not always positive: we can send rockets into space but can't solve problems like hunger and poverty. And modern technolgy has caused many problems like global warming.
crispiva1 3 years ago