He looks like he sat up braking. Looked to me like you were faster but he wasn't happy letting you past, and tried too hard to get back in front... Maybe you could have missed him if you'd abandoned getting around the corner, but at best it looked like a crazy block pass, at worst a mistake. what do I know though... glad your okay
if it would be a race it'd your fault thats agressive overtaking which is allowed dunno if this is practice but if it is then the other guy shouldnt be goin so hard
twat dived in on your apex, his fault, didnt look like he would have made it anyway, looked like he had already paniced and sat up, caddys a dangouros track, no space for errors
it was his fault you had the right line and it was a stupid pass that was never gonna happen he would of had to of been a good racer for that pass to of worked. he wasnt even making the corner he was going straight on.. i hope he paid for repairs.
looks like in his eagerness to stuff you, he had a real bad angle on that corner, got hard on the fronts, and basically took himself out... as well as you
They gear down with a quick accelerator to stop the back wheel locking up. The engine will go too slow for the wheel otherwise. Wasn't your fault by the way, he stood up in front of you
You were commited for the corner. Whether you should have checked your mirrors ( If you use them ) I don't know. It was very quick and I know that I wouldn't have had time to react in that situation.
woah, lol, didnt realise until slow mo that he'd already lost it, just thought he went in to hot for the overtake, but his leg was already in the air before he hit ya. no-ones fault i'd say, looks like he just went in too hot and lost it, spewin he took you out in the process, really good onboard footage too mate!
Well they don't call it the axe murderers class for nothing!
Cadwell (or Crashwell as i like to call it) ain't a good place to fall off anyway, i remember bailing off a 250 at Barn corner once, and it hurt like hell, bike wasn't too chuffed either!
His fault for sure, he was out of control and had you not hit him he would have run wide. Maybe he could have even made the turn, its hard to gauge cos of the angle. Its a shame cos you seemed to be having a great race up until then.
Hope there's no lasting injuries and you are both ok.
A shame you crashed, looks like he lost control and then you hit him, accidents happen. Keep racing man, looks awesome to me! :) I dream of becoming a road racer, if I had to pick a proffession of my own choice, I'd do speeding for a living ;)
I'm no racer, so probably not qualified to comment, but to me it looked like he was already losing it when you hit him, having gone in too tight and too hot trying to pass you. Bad pass on his part.
maybe you might have seen or heard him from the left... this is why I didn't like 600cc in novice classes.... stupid idiots with no talent. Hope you are okay.
It was all your fault... you fluffed the start BIG time and should've been with the leading pack and not back with those two who were holding you up, you big girl Billy Boy!! ;-) Seriously though, he made a move that was always gonna be tight, then drifted and you had no place to go really... if you'd tried to change lines, you'd have ended up in the dirt anyway.
Fair one, i should of been with the lead pack. But i was catching them up, once i got past the other two. Who knows where i would of finished. Stop being a tart on the start, me thinks.;)
i agree if youd have set of with the guy who qualified 2nd youd have been up there with them lol,typical club start where everyone goes before the lights go out,starts were my down fall,id qualify well enough but get a crap start and give myself a job n half to do to get back where i qualified !!!
Gotta say racing accident.BUT, definiley the rider at the inside on the lefts fault (or even mechanical) jst listen around 2:53 ish, you'll here revs die down and him situp, this could be him brickin it so sits up,or mechanical. Goin for a move there is really quite silly, the track is very narrow at that point, I dnt think he was going for an intentional pass, he ran hot, nd fort shit, gotta go up inside, only choice... most of us would just sit down wait, and get him at mansfield, makes sense!
he ran it in a bit hot and didnt look commited enough to hold it, if you had stood it up youd probably have been off yourself there. his fault but a racing accident. what club do u race in?
you got owned, son. he was all outta shape trying to make the pass and looked as though he were about to go down or blow the corner entirely before you guys came together.
as i do race bikes i would say that was a race crash okay it was a silly place to over take and to behonest that pass could of worked if there was no contact
id say the other guy cut into your line with no chance of getting round the corner, he must has lost his temper. just like driving home at rush hour all ways some dick head cutting you off.That cant drive.
been there many times, the lead rider had the best line , if you take that corner too near the apex its a bigger drop , best too stay out wide ( goose neck )
At 2:47 he (rider on right) should of seen opponent come in hot on his left and let him room to over shoot the turn. He (rider on right) now with the better line could of out smarted him and gone around behind him to the left. I think he (rider on right) tried to block or cut in too soon and lost the bet. Am I close?
Seen it happen a thousand times in 10 years of marshalling at Cadwell (usually at Mansfield, the next corner). Typical Gooseneck accident and the reason why there is usually a medical team parked up there or very close. You were on the right line, but he was in front of you well before you touched. On the other hand, he could probably not have held that tight line at that speed on that corner so it was a pretty stupid error on his part. I would have taken you around Charlies!
i recon he over shot it and tried to correct himself,u had the perfect racing line.not your fault,brakes arent that good!!! great bike great track, u can ride!
What cokeyblokey said, I rode there yesterday in fact, you was spot on line from what I can see, looks to me like he went in too deep for the left hander and had to stand it up a little at last min, not your fault IMHO.
bike trys to high side him
dotcomchris 1 year ago
He looks like he sat up braking. Looked to me like you were faster but he wasn't happy letting you past, and tried too hard to get back in front... Maybe you could have missed him if you'd abandoned getting around the corner, but at best it looked like a crazy block pass, at worst a mistake. what do I know though... glad your okay
chrishull23 1 year ago
Yea it was his fault for sure, he was goin in there way too hot and had lost control just as he got along side you.
TheJimineycricket 1 year ago
if it would be a race it'd your fault thats agressive overtaking which is allowed dunno if this is practice but if it is then the other guy shouldnt be goin so hard
SteveO1988 1 year ago
@SteveO1988 Im all for aggressive racing and banging bars, but he lost control and took me out with him. I had no chance.
airtimebill 6 months ago
twat dived in on your apex, his fault, didnt look like he would have made it anyway, looked like he had already paniced and sat up, caddys a dangouros track, no space for errors
benzy199 1 year ago
it was his fault it was a stupid pass that was never gonna happen he made a complete mess and i hope he paid for repairs. what a nob.
tj888888888 1 year ago
it was his fault you had the right line and it was a stupid pass that was never gonna happen he would of had to of been a good racer for that pass to of worked. he wasnt even making the corner he was going straight on.. i hope he paid for repairs.
tj888888888 1 year ago
He defo hit you dude! He lost it into the corner and cut right across you. Were you alright you were on the ground for ages dude! ;-)
neiltemple 1 year ago
tht was gd race m8 untill tht gay lad fukin isided n thn cliped u unluky
shag916 1 year ago
holly ufdehf.. u were doing it grate man!!
are u ok?? looks pretty bad.. at lease u fall into grass i went against a wall.
as soon a get a new bike i will go back to race..
good luck
MrDGonzalez5 1 year ago
to prevent back wheel bumping....
if u ryde u should tart prectice it helps a lot..
MrDGonzalez5 1 year ago
the other guys fault
michael1703 2 years ago
looks like in his eagerness to stuff you, he had a real bad angle on that corner, got hard on the fronts, and basically took himself out... as well as you
NineFiveBravo 2 years ago
defo racing incident....he was already crashing when u went into him.....no where to go....unlucky....hope all were ok and back racing
hippocrocafrog 2 years ago
He hit you... He missed the lefthand apex as he came past you... Basically too fookin fast and out of control. All the best, Foggy.
ajclarkify 2 years ago
They gear down with a quick accelerator to stop the back wheel locking up. The engine will go too slow for the wheel otherwise. Wasn't your fault by the way, he stood up in front of you
fcarl06 2 years ago
missed the apex a bit a charlies 2 on lap 2 lol :). his fault he lunged sat up and u had no where to go
sp125racing 2 years ago
You were commited for the corner. Whether you should have checked your mirrors ( If you use them ) I don't know. It was very quick and I know that I wouldn't have had time to react in that situation.
MattRing 2 years ago
There are no mirrors on race bikes
retrofly9 2 years ago 2
What did the other guy look like? : )
hornetobiker 2 years ago
His fault. He was already having an accident, you were just dead unlucky and got caught up in it. Doesn't help to repair the bike though!
yeti996rs 2 years ago
woah, lol, didnt realise until slow mo that he'd already lost it, just thought he went in to hot for the overtake, but his leg was already in the air before he hit ya. no-ones fault i'd say, looks like he just went in too hot and lost it, spewin he took you out in the process, really good onboard footage too mate!
ACE777R6 2 years ago
Well they don't call it the axe murderers class for nothing!
Cadwell (or Crashwell as i like to call it) ain't a good place to fall off anyway, i remember bailing off a 250 at Barn corner once, and it hurt like hell, bike wasn't too chuffed either!
Addyrgv 3 years ago
to fast at the entry, he try to over take you braking really deep, totally his fault.
joserumba 3 years ago 2
No doubt whatsoever, his fault as he was out of control. A typical racing crash. Hope there was no lasting injuries for you both!
devil505ni 3 years ago
i'd say that was his fault.. he went off-line cut accross your front, nothing you could have done. really good riding though and nice video :)
FatMoses46 3 years ago
His fault for sure, he was out of control and had you not hit him he would have run wide. Maybe he could have even made the turn, its hard to gauge cos of the angle. Its a shame cos you seemed to be having a great race up until then.
Hope there's no lasting injuries and you are both ok.
Dougystyle1 3 years ago
His fault no doubt, he was going to fast for a corner like that, and when he saw that's no gonna make it tried to take the line you had it and BOOM
i hope you ended up OK
dudutzu905 3 years ago
He was already going to fall of or run wide so he it you! hope you were ok after that.? ive fallen off there before and it does hurt.
rounding51 3 years ago
che coglione ma dove voleva andare lo avevi appena passato... era più lento!
VerdEstremo 3 years ago
i'd say it was neither of your faults, just he made a pass around the out side of you on the corner before hand and you didnt know he was there.
You ride good, i hope ill manage to get in to something like this on day. :)
owen33kx652007 3 years ago
Looks like he didn't make the turn and you already haveing started your turn had no where to go.
Physicker 3 years ago
he came on inside and swiped your front out i say it was his fault not yours
bikerbouy4life 3 years ago
A shame you crashed, looks like he lost control and then you hit him, accidents happen. Keep racing man, looks awesome to me! :) I dream of becoming a road racer, if I had to pick a proffession of my own choice, I'd do speeding for a living ;)
lalalaboy27 3 years ago
I'm no racer, so probably not qualified to comment, but to me it looked like he was already losing it when you hit him, having gone in too tight and too hot trying to pass you. Bad pass on his part.
Tazfiend 3 years ago
he wiggled then hit you,i think it was just a racing accident
Vincentharley8 3 years ago
maybe you might have seen or heard him from the left... this is why I didn't like 600cc in novice classes.... stupid idiots with no talent. Hope you are okay.
brontosyamaha 3 years ago
It was all your fault... you fluffed the start BIG time and should've been with the leading pack and not back with those two who were holding you up, you big girl Billy Boy!! ;-) Seriously though, he made a move that was always gonna be tight, then drifted and you had no place to go really... if you'd tried to change lines, you'd have ended up in the dirt anyway.
Stick to road racing mate... much more fun!!
carolynnsells 3 years ago
Fair one, i should of been with the lead pack. But i was catching them up, once i got past the other two. Who knows where i would of finished. Stop being a tart on the start, me thinks.;)
airtimebill 3 years ago
Yep.. you were definitely catching them up. I just couldn't resist pulling yer plonker matey... Oooer missis! :-)
carolynnsells 3 years ago
i agree if youd have set of with the guy who qualified 2nd youd have been up there with them lol,typical club start where everyone goes before the lights go out,starts were my down fall,id qualify well enough but get a crap start and give myself a job n half to do to get back where i qualified !!!
r6guru 2 years ago
Gotta say racing accident.BUT, definiley the rider at the inside on the lefts fault (or even mechanical) jst listen around 2:53 ish, you'll here revs die down and him situp, this could be him brickin it so sits up,or mechanical. Goin for a move there is really quite silly, the track is very narrow at that point, I dnt think he was going for an intentional pass, he ran hot, nd fort shit, gotta go up inside, only choice... most of us would just sit down wait, and get him at mansfield, makes sense!
samurairacer21 4 years ago
sorry meant 2:49... sounds mechanical
samurairacer21 3 years ago
he ran it in a bit hot and didnt look commited enough to hold it, if you had stood it up youd probably have been off yourself there. his fault but a racing accident. what club do u race in?
seanhardwicke 4 years ago
wrong side for an overtake at the gooseneck,should have come up the inside before the righthander to pinch line into the left,you got wasted!
gsxr7nut 4 years ago
you got owned, son. he was all outta shape trying to make the pass and looked as though he were about to go down or blow the corner entirely before you guys came together.
glad you're around to post vids!
seppes 4 years ago
what camera u used in ur bike??
mikasramos 4 years ago
as i do race bikes i would say that was a race crash okay it was a silly place to over take and to behonest that pass could of worked if there was no contact
timmywimmyammy 4 years ago
Attempting a line you can't hold is bad racecraft - taking someone else out because of it is rude, still we all make mistakes;-)
ginganz13 4 years ago
He lost control a bit earlier, so it was his fault even though you hit him at the end. Very unlucky.
lawicko 4 years ago
His fault no doubt about it IMO, he was going way to hot into that corner, if he didnt hit you he would have been in the grass on his own anyway.
fudgley 4 years ago
id say the other guy cut into your line with no chance of getting round the corner, he must has lost his temper. just like driving home at rush hour all ways some dick head cutting you off.That cant drive.
Leon112006 4 years ago
good these 4kam cams, might buy one myself.
jonnsr 4 years ago
been there many times, the lead rider had the best line , if you take that corner too near the apex its a bigger drop , best too stay out wide ( goose neck )
cronauer1985 4 years ago
At 2:47 he (rider on right) should of seen opponent come in hot on his left and let him room to over shoot the turn. He (rider on right) now with the better line could of out smarted him and gone around behind him to the left. I think he (rider on right) tried to block or cut in too soon and lost the bet. Am I close?
Philscbx 4 years ago
Seen it happen a thousand times in 10 years of marshalling at Cadwell (usually at Mansfield, the next corner). Typical Gooseneck accident and the reason why there is usually a medical team parked up there or very close. You were on the right line, but he was in front of you well before you touched. On the other hand, he could probably not have held that tight line at that speed on that corner so it was a pretty stupid error on his part. I would have taken you around Charlies!
ianisme 4 years ago
I agree he had the racing line, the other guy overcooked it, looks like a school boy error , that racing.
factory1000 4 years ago
i recon he over shot it and tried to correct himself,u had the perfect racing line.not your fault,brakes arent that good!!! great bike great track, u can ride!
joepikerazor 4 years ago
tough race, tough track. The gooseneck is scary enough and difficult to overtake at the best of times. Hope you're ok mate.
mondodan167 4 years ago
What cokeyblokey said, I rode there yesterday in fact, you was spot on line from what I can see, looks to me like he went in too deep for the left hander and had to stand it up a little at last min, not your fault IMHO.
PhantomMark 4 years ago
Looks like he tried to unload himself in his own incident and stood it up infront of you. hard to tell but it didnt look to be your fault. unlucky!
cokeysblokey 4 years ago
Not bad bill but if u want to beet me at cadwell u should not play touchy feely with other riders mid race.
adamjay2002 4 years ago