@densvenskeman The only reason you were not taken over by the nazies in WWII were because you were pussies and stayed natural while norway and denmark was taken over
@MartinArmageddon Denmark and norway were neutral too, but Germany still occupied Norway and Denmark because Hitler wanted to secure to the west.. It was not necessary to take over Sweden.. I'm from Denmark btw.
As a Swedish, Scandinavian Viking i am proud that nobody has invaded Sweden yet. Not even our mighty brothercountries Norway and Denmark have succeeded. Either Russia. Now, I am worried about the invasion who is going on right now. Islam, headache of the world, is about to taking control. I beg you, my Nordic and European brothers, vote to Nationalism! For Germania!
@densvenskeman Juden och hans icke-vita invandrare har invaderat oss, juden har lyckats ockupera vår mark. Ja, vi ska rösta nationalistiskt men inte kulturnationalistiskt som SD, utan etniskt som SvP. Det verkliga hotet är inte islam, det är judendomen !
The major hindrance to the Kalmar Union was the Danes sabotaging Swedish foreign trade, even by warfare, thinking the Swedes were stupid enough not to realize what was going on while we actually were quite aware what kind of people were running Denmark.
Sweden didn't let Denmark and Norway down. Danish trickery, disloyalty, unfaithfulness and double dealing hit back.
There you have it. Historical outcome is a perfectly sane judge.
@krusokat He is 42 years old, That makes him older than you,lol. And he has absolutely right in what he wrote. Denmark brought the wars and all the defeats you had to live through on yourselves (Or rather, Your ancestors did). Im the one sitting in Skåne right now, Relaxing.. You aint.
@joonte1010 Actually that´s not right, the danes had the upper hand, but was forced to surrender by england and france. please don´t post un-real facts, for the love of god
Sweden decided to leave the Kalmar Union because they got pissed off at Denmark, if you want the short version XD There are a lot of history behind that of course but I think a new union would work in Scandinavia today ^^
Kalmarunion = Norway (Icland, Greenland, Orkney, Shetland and the Faroe Islands) Denmark (Duchy of Schleswig,Pomerania and Holstein) Sweden (Finland)
The union was founded bay the Norwegian queen Margrete who succeeded the danish crown after her fathers death and took the swedish crown whith military power.
@msoe722 Um you have your sources wrong, Queen Margaret I of Denmark was Danish (Father was Valdemar of Denmark). She married King Haakon VI of Norway, whom was the son of King Magnus IV of Sweden. Prince Olav of Denmark and Norway gained both crowns bringing together Norway and Denmark.He died though So Margaret became regent of Denmark then Norway. She then adopted her Nephew Bogislav of Pomerania and renamed him Erik. After that they threw out German King of Sweden thus securing Sweden.
The kalmar union consisted only of Sweden, Norway and Denmark.
And as fare as I know, they only made the union 'cause Sweden & Norway lost their kings, & the danish king was related to both the swedish & norwegian kings...
(I really didn't listen to my history teacher that much, correct me if I'm wrong).
@TroWu The KUoS contained southern and western Finland within the Union. Also the Danish Prince died before taking swedens throne. Margaret became regent. (I'm sort of skipping the whole Erik part.) This is why its called. Queen Margarette's Kalmar Union of Scandinavia; Capital-Copenhagen.
@workatthefarm You can kiss my ass, I have more than earned my right to speak on what ever subject I may. I am Danish, therefore anything about my country, my brothers in Norway, my cousins in Estonia and Finland, or even my Frenemy Sweden will receive a comment from myself. Your ignorance portray you the same way you attempt to portray Americans. You are nothing but a mere speck of the Trolls on youtube and I will not listen to your attempts to get a rise out of me. So go back to your hate.
@swedenrules1 that's not true. Norway and Sweden had a royal marrige union and Sweden ruled Finland. Norway owned Greenland, Iceland, the Faroes and the shetlands at that time. At the beginning of the union Norway were most powerful, but Denmark nicked most of norways land in the end.
I think scandinavia's culture (excluding Finland) is very similiar and should be one nation. We did the same in Britain, and we were the most powerful nation in the world for 300 years.
Finland did´nt exist in the original kalmar union it was a part of sweden and Denmark controlled Norway so in fact the union was between Denmar and Sweden and when Denmark entered the union they was the leading contry of scadinavia but when the Swedes went out the union Sweden become scandinavias leading contry that we saw in the thirty years old war and the great northen war and Sweden has been it ever since :P
@swedenrules1 I wouldnt say that - Swedes might have domminated on land but Denmark deffently domminated the Baltic - we have won a lot of battles against Sweden - and we also won the Kalmar War
And today Sweden might be one of the weakest nations in the north - either Denmark or Finland are the strongest
We genetically share with russians and hollandians. The best bloodline. Swedes and other nordics on the other hand shares a lot with africans these days. No wonder finns own EVERYBODY on PISA tests.
Take Finland out because we are not part of Scandinavia(geographically) and we rather unite with russians than you guys. Since we are genetically related to russian. Sorry, but you have to live with us finns on your enemy side; Russia. We rather team up with our brothers than with unknowns like you.
@publicuser12345 Everyone knows that Finland is not a part of Scandinavia, Or a North Germanic people, Or that you share anything with Scandinavians. You are a different people in anyway. And this is something i have tried to make people understand, Finns share more with Slavs and Baltic people. Only some Finns on the South Western part of Finland have their origin among Swedes and Scandinavians.
The Danes used the Kalmar Union for their own purposes, because it was natural for any such power at that time to act in that specific manner during such circumstances.
Leading Swedish families got annoyed by perpetual Danish attacks hurting Swedish interests of trade. Those Swedish families formed a band.
Huh, why not take it back? We would become very powerfull! Anyhow if war breaks our in Europe I know it must return. I guess with all the uncertainty now, we would have no choice.
Sweden never took Copenhagen, so actually they have never "taken" us completely ;-) However, they managed to fuck us up pretty good! But, that's in the past... Now, let's all be friends and get that Scandinavian union going. It's about fucking time we join up. We are the same people and deserve our nation-state.
It is a little ironic, the Norwegians hated the Kalmar union, so I think Sweden and Danmark did to, but now most of the Scandinavians want back the Kalmar union.
Sweden hated the Kalmar Union most, We rebellioned alot of times in that Union and finally fought our way free from it, Norway and Denmark didnt do that.
@Roennebo Denmark werent the funder of the Union. It was a Union ruled by a Norwegian King with a Danish Queen. Read up your history again, The Norwegian King probably got poisoned to death by the Sneaky Danes. Have the Danes ever won anything through brute force and soldiers? No, I would rather say that Danes only have done that through Sneaky tactics and such.
@joonte1010 Well, can't say that Norway really decided for itself at the time of the Kalmar Union, since Norway was already under de facto control by Denmark through the unification of their two monarchies... Just saying, I don't think Norway acted independently in those negotiations:)
@joonte1010 Denmark and Norway didn't want to leave. And KUoS was pumping alot of money into Swedens southern regions, so Denmark and Norway didn't want Sweden to leave.
@DanMarik Norway wanted to leave but they were to weak after the black death which hit Norway hardest in the North. If they had the strenght they would have fought their way out from the Union aswell just like Sweden did. The Kalmar Union was weak and couldnt even defeat small German states, And those failed wars the common people had to pay alot for, This was the biggest reason why the Swedish people fought its way out from the union.
@joonte1010 In this you are wrong, Sweden was supplied by Denmark and Norway to attempt to quell the Finnish Rebels. So their move was more of a back-stab. Also Norway wanted the Kalmar Union to succeed just as much as Denmark. Also during those conflicts with the small "German States" it wasn't as such. Every German state was backed up by the HRE. And the population was four times the amount of all Scandinavia. However the HRE still couldn't bring KUoS to its knees.
@DanMarik Those Finnish "Rebels" during "klubbekriget" fought against the Kalmar union and not against Sweden, They were the first to try and fight its way out from that weak union but sadly the Swedish lords still had their loyalty towards the Union. And yes, It is rather pathetic that the Kalmar union were unable to defeat small german states especially when you think about the Swedish success later on during the 30 years war when Sweden achieved victory after victory after victory.
@DanMarik Sweden alone achieved far greater things then what Kalmar Union ever did. Imagine the chaos if Russia would have attacked the Kalmar union, It would have been a damn marathon towards Copenhagen.. During the Kalmar union Sweden were backward and didnt advance forward at all just like Norway while Denmark earned most of the union because the German kings had decided to put the capital in Copenhagen. It was a good thing that Sweden fought its way free from it and gained a greater history.
@joonte1010 You seem to forget the only Scandinavian Kingdom with a German king at the time was Sweden. It were the Norsk and Danes under Queen Margaret whom rid the Swedes of the German. Sweden was fully supplied from the Union as Sweden was in a more... precarious position. Norway and Denmark knew the swedes never wanted to be part of the Union but they had hoped that in assisting them they would be content. Continued.
@DanMarik It was the Swedes themselves that got rid of its German king aided by the Danes and Norwegians. Tehe German Royal line in the Kalmar union started with Christian and continued from him. He was a German king and hes offsprings were of German origin. The Swedes never wanted to be a part of that union,True. But the Nobles saw the union as a way to earn more money.
@joonte1010 It was the Swedes themselves that got rid of its German king "AIDED" by the Danes and Norsk. Uh I guess you would call an army, the supplies, and royal blessings just aid. You know since a Swede led them it was all from Sweden. Also about the Fat-American part, another YT cmer called me it, I guess I got the posts mixed, But no i am not a fat American. continued.
A Scandinavian will never try to be something they are not. You are a typical American trying to be part of a certain nationality because you think you've got some kind of physical and mental connection to that country.
@workatthefarm I was born in Denmark therefore I am Danish. I just recently got American Citizenship, and I never said Gotaland was Danish, pay a closer look at my argument.
@workatthefarm hahaha! Har inte tittat på hans kanal, Han förstår inte Danska heller tror jag. Han är nog en sån där wannabe Skandinav från USA.. Finns många av dom där.
@joonte1010 Part 2. During the war Sweden and Den-Nor fought many battles, and though the outcome was in favor of the Swedes, the Danes had their share of victories throughout the war. Also I would like to make it clear, It was Margaret of Denmark who created the Union not a German King. The war was the first time Sweden could stand toe-to-toe with Denmark. And it only took a decade of supplying and arming for them to do so. Continued.
@DanMarik During the wars before Sweden obviously had the upper hand in every war when looking at statistics and the results from those wars. Sweden won most of the battles before and took part after part and part of Denmark, Sadly the Norwegians had to pay dearly for the Danes mistakes to go to war against Sweden. The Danish kings surrendered Norwegian territories mostly except during the war in 1658, Then the Sneaky danes were forced to give up Danish landparts.
@joonte1010 Yes ill agree that Sweden had an Upperhand, how could they not, but you cannot just ignore all the victories as mere statistics. Also Norway was just as much in the war as the Danes. It wasn't until a corrupted Danish council wanted to call them a Danish province that they were started to wane. (Though they did agree to this) There was nothing on the Danish side that was "sneaky". They fought then lost, lost the right to Norsk Lands and Skane.
@DanMarik The Danes backstabbed the Swedes more than twice when the Swedes were busy in wars elsewhere. If you really have read history you would have been more silence about "backstabbing" haha.
One Danish backstabb resulted in Denmark loosing 1/3 of its kingdom to Sweden, You were fucking around with the wrong opponent. Sweden had no interest in Denmark until the Danes declared its wars, Idiotic wars that ended with a crushing Danish defeat.
@DanMarik The Norwegians didnt want to have war against Sweden, In fact. The Swedes and Norwegians along the borders had a very friendly relation to eachother, They traded had marriage e.t.c
During the Great Northern War Karl XII gave specific orders to hes soldiers not to plunder/Rape or burn because the Norwegians were a brother people to the Swedes.
@joonte1010 This is not was is heard by me. Norway and Denmark have shared a brotherhood for many years. Sweden.... Invaded them multiple times. Even if this chant is true. Denmark and Norway have our own Prayer. A furore normannorum libera nos domine ("From the fury of the Northmen deliver us, O Lord!"), This was in England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Northern France, and Germany. 7th - 9th centuries from the Danish - Norsk Raids.
@DanMarik Oh so now you want to talk about the Viking age? Well, If you want to learn about the Swedish Vikings you just need to read about what the Vikings did on the Eastern trail. The Swedes founded Kievan Rus, Founded the Varangian guard after they had besieged and plundered around Constantinopel and byzantium Empire, They created a thousend mile trading network and Sweden have most Viking findings in entire Scandinavia, And Runestones and Burrial mounds. And there is much much more to say!
@joonte1010 What oh hell no. The Varangian were not Swedish. The Varangian was Geatland and Gutland, Hell even Rus' is Geatish The homeland of the Danes. The Swedes were far more North. Wow trying to take credit for the Varangians, thats one I haven't heard from many Swedes. During the time of the Vikings Sweden or Svealand was about the Third of the population of Norway and were having more conflicts with their Sami neighbors than they could handle. Wow the nerve. Not even I try to claim them.
@DanMarik What the fuck are you talking about? The Geats never went eastwards in fact. The geats turned to christianity already during the 9th century. And that doesnt mather at all since the Geats along with the Swedes and Guts travelled with eachother. In Svithiod most of Swedens 4000 runestones is located, all about the Vikings that went East. THe Rus arrived from Rodslagen in todays Uppland. The Finnish and Estonian name for Sweden today is still Ruotsi and Rootsi.
@DanMarik The Varangian guard was founded by Basil II after the Rus Vikings wars against Byzantium Empire, He was so impressed by the Swedish Vikings that he hired them as hes personal bodyguard and Elit troops out on the battlefield and thus created Varangian Guard. The Homeland of the danes is NOT GEATLAND you idiot. Geatland is located in Sweden, and togheter with the Svear and Gutes they created Sweden and became SWEDES.
@DanMarik Uppland back then, The homeland of the Svear were the major pagan capital in entire Scandinavia with the Uppsala temple located there and the huge burrial mounds after ancient and mighty chieftains (Possibly from the Vendel era) Accourding to Adam of Bremen every man in entire (Todays Sweden) had to go there each year to take part in rituals and worshipp the Asatro Gods.
@DanMarik Seriously? Are you so damn dumb and ignorant about this? Why dont you fucking read about the subject before you try something? Gudars skymning..
@joonte1010 Danes, Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Zealanders, Svea, Finnic-Slav and Gotlanders all took part of the Varangian traders, even a few became personal guards for the Emperor of Eastern Rome. But Sweden had not even existed yet. Also both Denmark and Sweden show very similar Runnic patterns (Norway is the odd one out (isolation)) And all the findings Sweden claim were in southern Sweden and along the trade route. But who owned southern Sweden? Denmark and Geatland.
@DanMarik You know shit, All the findings have been in either Uppland or Gotland. The Svear,Gutes and Geats were the same people, Spoke the same language. Noone of these had any closer connections to the Danes. Togheter these people later created Sweden and became Swedes. the vast majority of the Runestones in Sweden is located in Uppland. The vast majority of the treasures found is located in Uppland and Gotland. The Varangian guard consisted most of Swedes, THe treasures in Sweden proves this.
@joonte1010 Gotland IS the homeland of the Danes. Again these are empty claims as much treasure has been found in Norway and Denmark. Again Svealand was in trouble with the Sami. Gotaland was the root of both of our languages as Both Denmark and Sweden speak with the Eastern Scandinavian Tongue, Norway is the Western. Again show me proof of these hordes of the phantom gold. I love Scandinavian History for what it is not for what people say it is. Show me websites that show this.
@DanMarik You said Geatland first you idiot, Stop changing all the time. Neither Geatland OR Gotland is the Danish homeland. Svithiod (The realm of the Swedes) created Kievan Rus, They founded the Varangian guard, They established the thousend mile trading network and NO; they didnt have any problems at all with a bunch of fucking Samis, They taxed them just like the Norwegians did. I will give you proof of this, You are obviously terribly ignorant about this.
@DanMarik "TheFrankishAnnalsofSt.Bertin refer to a group of Norsemen,who called themselves Rhos and visited Constantinople around the year 838.Fearful of returning home via the steppes,which would leave them vulnerable to attacks,these Rhos travelled through Germany accompanied by Greek ambassadors from the Byzantine emperor Theophilus.When questioned by the German Emperor Ludwig the Pious at Ingelheim,they informed him that they lived far to the north,and that they were Swedes"
@DanMarik And if you ever come by Stockholm, You need to visit the Swedish Museum of National Antiquities. There you get a full view of the Swedish Viking treasures with information and alot of other things.
@DanMarik Search for "In English - Historiska museet" on google to enter the Swedish Museum of National Antiquities and watch the video on the main page about the "Gold room".
@DanMarik You can always use Google to search for "Rus Vikings" or "Varangian Rus" or why not "Vikings" or Wikipedia. You get atleast the basic informations from those sites, Otherwise you need to read books about the subject or visit the Swedish Museum of National Antiquities.
oh! And look at my channel, On my channel description i have posted a link about the Varangian guard if you scroll down a little, Take a look at that aswell!
@DanMarik Denmark hardly have any runestones except for a few ones in Jutland and själland. Sweden however is full of them, Just as Sweden is full of treasures from the Viking age and Burrial mounds from the Viking age. Many of the Runestones is dedicated to warriors that took service in the Varangian guard, Died or returned home with great Wealth. Sweden even have way more Arabic gold coins than the arabs themselves have from that era, Sweden have most Byzantium coin findings in entire europe.
@DanMarik Sweden and Norway had a close relation with eachother during the early medieval age and Viking age. During the early medieval age we even had the same King and our countries prospered.. But then the black death (Digerdöden) arrived.
Today you can see friendly Norway and Sweden jokes but the oldest one is probably from the 13th century when Birger Jarl instructed his men not to call the Norwegian guests "Norrbagge".
@joonte1010 "sadly the norwegians had to pay" well you got that right, we werent allowed to have a trained army due to danes fearing a rebellion. In 1628 the norwegian army was established, and only in a small number, so it would be easily controled. Most norwegian served in the navy. Numbers show that 10 000 of 15 000 men in the navy was norwegian, rest was danes and dutchmen. Sevral of the most famous danish navy heros are norwegians, like Tordenskiold, Ivar Huitsfeldt, Cort Adeler
@joonte1010 - the danish new frigates will bear the name of Ivar Huitsfeldt. And as funny as it is, the danes call it their fleet. In fact, several of the line ships were also built in Norway. So, the danes wouldnt create a large norwegian army, but they were more than willing to let the norwegians form the main bulk of the fleet, including the admirality. This wouldnt pose a risk of rebellion. Denmark throwed Norway into wars we did not have any interest in, and stole our resources.
@tordengud Denmark was never good for Norway, They used your country as something they could "Pay off" Sweden with in defeats, I heard from a Norwegian friend that the Norwegians did a rebellion similure to the one in Sweden during the Kalmar Union. But the Norwegian rebellion were brutaly beaten down and the people were hanged inside a house or something, Not sure what he said but it was something like that.
@joonte1010 No, there was never a big rebellion here. There are many factors to that. 1. The norwegian civil war, witch whiped out the old nobility, and strengthened the kings position. 2. Due to that, Norway as the only country in Scandinavia altered the old germanic law of heritage, so instead of being an elective kingdom, like Sweden and Denmark, the kingdom would pass to son from father. This would later become common in Sweden and Denmark as well. Witch made the ppl -
@joonte1010 - more faithful to the kingdom. And thereby reduce the risks of rebellions. 3. The black death whiped out the rest of the old nobility. After the line of kings died out with queen Margarets son Olav, there were no legal hair left, and no nobility to really take over. No leaders to form a rebellion and so on. There was a pesant rebellion in Telemark, and danish troops was sent. The farmers were told to put down their weapons and negotiate under peace, they did, but the -
@joonte1010 danes then atacked the unarmed pesants. This is the famous rebellion that ended in backstabbing and horror, in 1540. So, when Norway was reduced to nothing, by almost 100 years of civil war, and then the black death, lack of nobility, fallowed up by the end of the royal line, the danes got the upper hand. The union was intended to be a containment from hanseatic pressure, but ended up being dominated by the danes. BUT, the past is the past.
@joonte1010 Part 3. Norway wasn't as advance of as the other two because of Isolation, look at a map. The capital was made Copenhagen because at the time there was no great Stockholm, Oslo was in shabs, and the namesake of the Union was just not worth the title. Also Sweden didn't want to leave the Union, they wanted it. (King Charles VIII), also they didn't fight their way out. Twice they rebelled, twice Den-Nor suppressed it. (King Christian II) Until they had finally allowed their secession.
@DanMarik The Union was made mainly to make Denmark bigger and stronger,All the power were put in Denmark and each year the Sneaky Danes tried to claim more and more power over Sweden and Norway.Heavily taxed the Swedish population and the Swedes had to pay for the failed wars the Union had against some German State.Twice the Swedes rebelled but were unable to organise themselves,The third time Gustav Vasa defeated the Danes completely and crushed the hopes for the Danes to make Sweden rejoin.
@joonte1010 Lol, there was NO tax upon the swedes by the danes. Did you forget? This was a UNION not a Empire, nor a Coalition. In this Union all collaborates had to provide supplies and forces as a Unified force. For two whole decades Sweden was excused from this. Denmark had no right nor tried to exercise a right to tax Sweden, maybe trade though. That was between Denmark and Norway after the Union failed.
@DanMarik There were tax collectors that went around in Sweden forcing the peasents to pay. High taxes. I thought you knew this? haha. It lead to the Engelbrekt rebellion.
@joonte1010 Part 4. If you wanted to discuss History then you could have replied, this insulting is just ignorant and is unbecoming of anyone. However I do not believe one country is more important than the other, Sweden had their Golden Age, and Denmark had theirs. I do not agree with how Sweden came to power but still it was their Golden Age. Now to your first comment. I am no fat American. I was born in Roskilde, Denmark moved to America when I was little. I have as much right to speak as you
@DanMarik You do not agree about what? Sweden came to power through pure military strenght and drilled soldiers and heavily experienced ones. That is the main reason why Sweden emerged after the 30 years war as a European Great power, Something Denmark never have been. Swedish soldiers were often considered as Europes most skilled and experienced ones.The French admired them, The Germans feared them, The Russians had respect for them and the Poles hated them.
@joonte1010 I do not agree with the fact that Sweden used the supplies they stockpiled from Den-Nor to win a war. No one feared them (More on that later). Maybe some Norwegians but no more. The short-term Swedish Empire was strong yes but lasted only 150 years. Only a Swedish man would say that the Swedish were the most skilled and Experienced ones. The French loved them, the Germans taxed the hell out of them, and Russia planned their demise.
@DanMarik ""Infantry before the era of bayonet were armed with pikes and firearms.
In the 1600s the Swedish infantry was considered as the best in the World.
They were tall and strong men , well-trained , and led by great generals .""
""The Swedes are long, strong, flexible, able to endure the hard work, hunger and distress. They are born warriors full of pride." Francois Voltaire in 1713 "
@DanMarik The Russians were defeated time after time after time before the Great Northern War and Poltava. The Swedes conquered their territores along the baltic coast, kicked them out from the baltic sea. The Germans were heavily defeated by the Swedes during the 30 years war and as a result of that and what the Swedes did in Germany the Germans often used to tell their children chants to scare them.
@DanMarik German childrenchant to scare them to obey if they had done something stupid.
Bet, Kindlein, bet! Morgen kommt der Schwed, Morgen kommt der Ochsenstern, wird die Kindlein beten lern’, Bet, Kindlein, bet! ’Be, lilla barn, be! Imorgon kommer svensken. Imorgon kommer Oxenstierna, och han skall lära små barn att be. Be, lilla barn, be!’
They also used to say "Behave! Or else the Swedes will come and take you"
@DanMarik Russia alone won the Great Northern war since Denmark-Norway and Poland and Saxony proved to be no match for Sweden. After Poland and Saxony had been defeated the Swedes turned their eyes Eastwards, Towards Russia. But the Russians used the cowardly tactic sorched earth to heavily weaken the Swedish army. The Swedes lacked shelter against the cold and they couldnt find any food. The Russians defeated Napoleon and Hitler the same way.
@DanMarik The Swedes defeated the Danes early in the war, In year 1700.. karl XII marched with the Swedish army to conquer Copenhagen and entire Denmark but then the English,Dutch and French once again saved Denmark.. Instead Sweden went east, Crushed the Russian army at Narva and then invaded Poland.
@DanMarik During the Swedish invasion of Poland after the 30 years war the Swedes ravaged the country, Occupied half of it. The Poles even offered the Swedish King Karl X the Polish throne since the Polish king had fleed the country, But he werent interested. He only invaded Poland to plunder as much as possible. Some Poles claim that the Swedes were responsible for the death of over 2/4 of the Polish population. That the Swedes were way more cruel than the Germans during WW2.. Offcourse a lie.
@DanMarik But the Poles still remembers the Swedish invasion or "The Deluge" as they call it in their national anthem were Sweden and that war is mentioned.
@Finni100 We dont want the Kalmar union back, and Sweden was the ones who hated the union the most, we had constantly inner conflicts, but what you say about that we want it back is half-true, we want to create a strong trade, communication and cooperation with the other Scandinavian country's, witch could be better described as an alliance!
@Finni100 would be funny if it was now since Denmark-Norway or Sweden-Norway didn't last either and on top of that they each decided to be fancy and invent their own separate language and make as large cultural barrier from each other as possible
@Finni100 would be funny if it was now since Denmark-Norway or Sweden-Norway didn't last either and on top of that they each decided to be fancy and invent their own separate language and make as large cultural barrier from each other as possible
Finland var aldrig med i unionen! det var en del utav sverige men om det räknas kan man säga att island och grönland också var med och varför inte ta med åland, svalbard, färöarna osv. de är delar av andra länder, kan inte gå på dagens politiska gränser när man gjort en film om en personal union för hundratals år sedan då får man gå på den tidens politiska gränser.
I would rather see Stockholm or another Swedish city as the capital though. Sweden is after all Scandinavias bigest country, with the highest amount of population...
You might have the biggest population, not when Denmark and Norway corner you though :P Anyway, Denmark is still bigger in regards to size... When you include Greenland anyway :P
Yes, but Denmark was the owner of the real Kalmar Union and we shouldnt change that... Skånings are still ethnic danes though they have been "swedenised"
Times have changed, and now Sweden has the biggest economy and industry in Scandinavia.
Skåne has been Swedish for more then 300 years, and if you call them "ethnic danes", then with other words: Finland is a belonging to Sweden, Norway is a belonging to Sweden, Estonia is a belonging to Sweden and so on...
The big mayority of "Skånings" consider themselves to be Swedish, and only like 3% voted for "Skånepartiet" in the election.
No because Fins have never been Swedish, they've just been ruled by the swedes... Then you could also say that in Estonia the population is danish because it has been danish once... You know that you actually just assimilated Norwegians and Danes? People who are living in Scania, Bohuslän and Jämtland aren't swedes, they have just been assimilated so they think like swedes and talk swedish. You just weren't successful in doing the same to the fins...
@densvenskeman The only reason you were not taken over by the nazies in WWII were because you were pussies and stayed natural while norway and denmark was taken over
MartinArmageddon 3 weeks ago
@MartinArmageddon Denmark and norway were neutral too, but Germany still occupied Norway and Denmark because Hitler wanted to secure to the west.. It was not necessary to take over Sweden.. I'm from Denmark btw.
PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER 2 weeks ago
As a Swedish, Scandinavian Viking i am proud that nobody has invaded Sweden yet. Not even our mighty brothercountries Norway and Denmark have succeeded. Either Russia. Now, I am worried about the invasion who is going on right now. Islam, headache of the world, is about to taking control. I beg you, my Nordic and European brothers, vote to Nationalism! For Germania!
densvenskeman 1 month ago 5
@densvenskeman Juden och hans icke-vita invandrare har invaderat oss, juden har lyckats ockupera vår mark. Ja, vi ska rösta nationalistiskt men inte kulturnationalistiskt som SD, utan etniskt som SvP. Det verkliga hotet är inte islam, det är judendomen !
Gash1234 1 month ago
beautiful
kagemandfilm 2 months ago
The major hindrance to the Kalmar Union was the Danes sabotaging Swedish foreign trade, even by warfare, thinking the Swedes were stupid enough not to realize what was going on while we actually were quite aware what kind of people were running Denmark.
Sweden didn't let Denmark and Norway down. Danish trickery, disloyalty, unfaithfulness and double dealing hit back.
There you have it. Historical outcome is a perfectly sane judge.
scholion 3 months ago
@scholion ofc, a swede talking fine about this own country :) you´re just pityful, and if someone was disloyalty, it was the swedes, boy.
krusokat 3 months ago
@krusokat He is 42 years old, That makes him older than you,lol. And he has absolutely right in what he wrote. Denmark brought the wars and all the defeats you had to live through on yourselves (Or rather, Your ancestors did). Im the one sitting in Skåne right now, Relaxing.. You aint.
joonte1010 2 months ago
@joonte1010 Bloking you, because of un-real facts.
krusokat 2 months ago
@krusokat The Danes tried the same in 1658.. But the Swedes still kicked your ass.
joonte1010 2 months ago
@joonte1010 Actually that´s not right, the danes had the upper hand, but was forced to surrender by england and france. please don´t post un-real facts, for the love of god
krusokat 2 months ago
@krusokat In 1658, Sweden conquered entire Denmark except for Copenhagen. It was the Dutch,Poles and Germans that forced Sweden to abandone Denmark.
Read your history again (The invasion forced Denmark to give up 1/3 of your country)
joonte1010 2 months ago 2
vi skulle forenes igen! gider ik alt det der united pis vi skulle bare hedde scandinavien!
TheDaniiboy 3 months ago
btw finland wasn't in the kalmar union
PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER 4 months ago
@PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER i believe finland was a part of sweden during that time, thus making it part of the kalmar union.
ga2lic 3 months ago
@ga2lic Nope they weren't
PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER 3 months ago
@PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER Yes, they were.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER The part of Finland that belonged to Sweden at that time was simply called Österbotten.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
Sweden decided to leave the Kalmar Union because they got pissed off at Denmark, if you want the short version XD There are a lot of history behind that of course but I think a new union would work in Scandinavia today ^^
WhiteLilystar 4 months ago
Kalmarunion = Norway (Icland, Greenland, Orkney, Shetland and the Faroe Islands) Denmark (Duchy of Schleswig,Pomerania and Holstein) Sweden (Finland)
The union was founded bay the Norwegian queen Margrete who succeeded the danish crown after her fathers death and took the swedish crown whith military power.
msoe722 5 months ago
@msoe722 Um you have your sources wrong, Queen Margaret I of Denmark was Danish (Father was Valdemar of Denmark). She married King Haakon VI of Norway, whom was the son of King Magnus IV of Sweden. Prince Olav of Denmark and Norway gained both crowns bringing together Norway and Denmark.He died though So Margaret became regent of Denmark then Norway. She then adopted her Nephew Bogislav of Pomerania and renamed him Erik. After that they threw out German King of Sweden thus securing Sweden.
DanMarik 4 months ago
Just why in the world is Finland in this video?
The kalmar union consisted only of Sweden, Norway and Denmark.
And as fare as I know, they only made the union 'cause Sweden & Norway lost their kings, & the danish king was related to both the swedish & norwegian kings...
(I really didn't listen to my history teacher that much, correct me if I'm wrong).
TroWu 5 months ago
@TroWu The KUoS contained southern and western Finland within the Union. Also the Danish Prince died before taking swedens throne. Margaret became regent. (I'm sort of skipping the whole Erik part.) This is why its called. Queen Margarette's Kalmar Union of Scandinavia; Capital-Copenhagen.
DanMarik 4 months ago
@DanMarik I want you to fuck off, and never return to videos about Scandinavia you fat disgusting American.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@workatthefarm You can kiss my ass, I have more than earned my right to speak on what ever subject I may. I am Danish, therefore anything about my country, my brothers in Norway, my cousins in Estonia and Finland, or even my Frenemy Sweden will receive a comment from myself. Your ignorance portray you the same way you attempt to portray Americans. You are nothing but a mere speck of the Trolls on youtube and I will not listen to your attempts to get a rise out of me. So go back to your hate.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik You are not Danish, you are American.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
Gustav Vasa är det värsta som hänt Norden.
Jelubaful 5 months ago
Why is finland in this? they were not a part of the union
PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER 5 months ago
Very few Norwegians want the Kalmar Union back. These talks of unions are largely a Swedish/Danish notion.
Onnarashi 5 months ago
@Onnarashi Uhm no, not correct... After WWII Denmark, and Norway wanted a Union again, but Sweden didn't cause sweden wasn't occupied by Germany
PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER 5 months ago
You missed Icelandic flag out but nice video.
Robbi159 1 year ago
I don't think there should be another union. There are three different monarchs in these nations today who'll rule
SaveChinaTiger 1 year ago
Finland was in the union as a part of Sweden. Finland did not exist as an state yet. Iceland was a part of Denmark.
Greenapplehill 1 year ago
@Greenapplehill Iceland was a part of Norway....
KoseSe 6 months ago
@dinmamma3234 Yeh, sorry, the UK.
caileansmith 1 year ago
@swedenrules1 sorry, DENMARK and Norway had a royal marriage union.
caileansmith 1 year ago
@swedenrules1 that's not true. Norway and Sweden had a royal marrige union and Sweden ruled Finland. Norway owned Greenland, Iceland, the Faroes and the shetlands at that time. At the beginning of the union Norway were most powerful, but Denmark nicked most of norways land in the end.
caileansmith 1 year ago
I think scandinavia's culture (excluding Finland) is very similiar and should be one nation. We did the same in Britain, and we were the most powerful nation in the world for 300 years.
caileansmith 1 year ago
@caileansmith
when you say britain you include Ireland?
dinmamma3234 1 year ago
I would like to see all the Germanic countries unite and move forward together as one like the brothers that we are.
much love from England.
Skyswinger 1 year ago
Givie us a new Kalmar Union :D It would be awesome !
WrainBowTrip 1 year ago 3
dont think this would work today, becouse there are allready a lot of people who hates the EU. why would people like this lol
but if i had to see a good side to it, it would be we could have a pretty awesome national team haha.
kalmer is dum
skbadsberg 1 year ago
I hope you Muslims stay in Sweden! Have fun with your immigration!
publicuser12345 1 year ago
give back the kalmar union!
SpikyDane 1 year ago
Finland did´nt exist in the original kalmar union it was a part of sweden and Denmark controlled Norway so in fact the union was between Denmar and Sweden and when Denmark entered the union they was the leading contry of scadinavia but when the Swedes went out the union Sweden become scandinavias leading contry that we saw in the thirty years old war and the great northen war and Sweden has been it ever since :P
swedenrules1 1 year ago
@swedenrules1 I wouldnt say that - Swedes might have domminated on land but Denmark deffently domminated the Baltic - we have won a lot of battles against Sweden - and we also won the Kalmar War
And today Sweden might be one of the weakest nations in the north - either Denmark or Finland are the strongest
Blackie3391 1 year ago
We genetically share with russians and hollandians. The best bloodline. Swedes and other nordics on the other hand shares a lot with africans these days. No wonder finns own EVERYBODY on PISA tests.
publicuser12345 1 year ago
@publicuser12345 " Swedes and other nordics on the other hand shares a lot with africans these days"
Are you reffering to the White Indian Finns who take every opportunity they get to Immigrate to Scandinavia like a bunch of Gypsies?
joonte1010 1 year ago
Take Finland out because we are not part of Scandinavia(geographically) and we rather unite with russians than you guys. Since we are genetically related to russian. Sorry, but you have to live with us finns on your enemy side; Russia. We rather team up with our brothers than with unknowns like you.
publicuser12345 1 year ago
@publicuser12345 Everyone knows that Finland is not a part of Scandinavia, Or a North Germanic people, Or that you share anything with Scandinavians. You are a different people in anyway. And this is something i have tried to make people understand, Finns share more with Slavs and Baltic people. Only some Finns on the South Western part of Finland have their origin among Swedes and Scandinavians.
joonte1010 1 year ago
@joonte1010 You are so fucking stupid... "You are a different people in anyway",
"Finns share more with Slavs and Baltic people"...
I can see that you have NOT read history.
babubugi 1 year ago
@babubugi Only Finns on the South Western part of Finland have Swedish genes, The Eastern Finns doesnt share anything with Sweden or Scandinavia.
joonte1010 1 year ago
@joonte1010 It is MAYBE true but Finns do not share anything with Slavs or Baltic people ( except Estonians).
babubugi 1 year ago
@publicuser12345
I thought Finn came from Hun tribe
Kozmo260 1 year ago
The Danes used the Kalmar Union for their own purposes, because it was natural for any such power at that time to act in that specific manner during such circumstances.
Leading Swedish families got annoyed by perpetual Danish attacks hurting Swedish interests of trade. Those Swedish families formed a band.
Sweden took over Scandinavia.
scholion 1 year ago
Greenland, Faroe Islands and Iceland were also part of the Kalmar Union..
TheDemonChannel 1 year ago
@TheDemonChannel Becus it was part of Norway.
Nortrix87 1 year ago
@TheDemonChannel Shetland and orcney was also part of it altought the danish king sold it to scotland for a marigge fee.
Worst kings in history.
Nortrix87 1 year ago
Huh, why not take it back? We would become very powerfull! Anyhow if war breaks our in Europe I know it must return. I guess with all the uncertainty now, we would have no choice.
Bidmartinlo 1 year ago
sverige!!!!
wiLLekx85 1 year ago
Finland didnt excist there -.- sweden had the region finland--!
zoltarr122 1 year ago
LOVE IT :D
ACSD 1 year ago
What are ýou talking about? Denmark have conquered Sweden 5 times? hahaha :P
Nah i wont be rude, I know that history knowledge in Denmark is very poor.
joonte1010 1 year ago
Danmark is as fail as sweden, filled with muslims.
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
Sweden never took Copenhagen, so actually they have never "taken" us completely ;-) However, they managed to fuck us up pretty good! But, that's in the past... Now, let's all be friends and get that Scandinavian union going. It's about fucking time we join up. We are the same people and deserve our nation-state.
Andreastij 1 year ago
The thing is that, Sweden should have taken Denmark if England and Holand said stop there ,. Ok ? so Sweden should be greater than it is today ! OK
moema45 2 years ago
It is a little ironic, the Norwegians hated the Kalmar union, so I think Sweden and Danmark did to, but now most of the Scandinavians want back the Kalmar union.
Finni100 2 years ago 16
Sweden hated the Kalmar Union most, We rebellioned alot of times in that Union and finally fought our way free from it, Norway and Denmark didnt do that.
joonte1010 2 years ago 8
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Blackie3391 1 year ago
@joonte1010
I know. And I am half Swedish if you didn't know :)
I don't remember the comment I posted, but I do know that Sweden Rebelled a heck of a lot.
But I wish there was an alliance/partnership with Scandinavia, where they had the Kalmar union flag in their meeting room :)
Finni100 1 year ago
@joonte1010
Of course Denmark didnt fought its way out of the union...
Denmark and our Queen Magrete 1 was the funder of the union.
Roennebo 1 year ago
@Roennebo Denmark werent the funder of the Union. It was a Union ruled by a Norwegian King with a Danish Queen. Read up your history again, The Norwegian King probably got poisoned to death by the Sneaky Danes. Have the Danes ever won anything through brute force and soldiers? No, I would rather say that Danes only have done that through Sneaky tactics and such.
joonte1010 1 year ago
@joonte1010 Well, can't say that Norway really decided for itself at the time of the Kalmar Union, since Norway was already under de facto control by Denmark through the unification of their two monarchies... Just saying, I don't think Norway acted independently in those negotiations:)
Charlir91 1 year ago
@joonte1010 Denmark and Norway didn't want to leave. And KUoS was pumping alot of money into Swedens southern regions, so Denmark and Norway didn't want Sweden to leave.
DanMarik 4 months ago
@DanMarik Norway wanted to leave but they were to weak after the black death which hit Norway hardest in the North. If they had the strenght they would have fought their way out from the Union aswell just like Sweden did. The Kalmar Union was weak and couldnt even defeat small German states, And those failed wars the common people had to pay alot for, This was the biggest reason why the Swedish people fought its way out from the union.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@joonte1010 In this you are wrong, Sweden was supplied by Denmark and Norway to attempt to quell the Finnish Rebels. So their move was more of a back-stab. Also Norway wanted the Kalmar Union to succeed just as much as Denmark. Also during those conflicts with the small "German States" it wasn't as such. Every German state was backed up by the HRE. And the population was four times the amount of all Scandinavia. However the HRE still couldn't bring KUoS to its knees.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik Those Finnish "Rebels" during "klubbekriget" fought against the Kalmar union and not against Sweden, They were the first to try and fight its way out from that weak union but sadly the Swedish lords still had their loyalty towards the Union. And yes, It is rather pathetic that the Kalmar union were unable to defeat small german states especially when you think about the Swedish success later on during the 30 years war when Sweden achieved victory after victory after victory.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik Sweden alone achieved far greater things then what Kalmar Union ever did. Imagine the chaos if Russia would have attacked the Kalmar union, It would have been a damn marathon towards Copenhagen.. During the Kalmar union Sweden were backward and didnt advance forward at all just like Norway while Denmark earned most of the union because the German kings had decided to put the capital in Copenhagen. It was a good thing that Sweden fought its way free from it and gained a greater history.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 You seem to forget the only Scandinavian Kingdom with a German king at the time was Sweden. It were the Norsk and Danes under Queen Margaret whom rid the Swedes of the German. Sweden was fully supplied from the Union as Sweden was in a more... precarious position. Norway and Denmark knew the swedes never wanted to be part of the Union but they had hoped that in assisting them they would be content. Continued.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik It was the Swedes themselves that got rid of its German king aided by the Danes and Norwegians. Tehe German Royal line in the Kalmar union started with Christian and continued from him. He was a German king and hes offsprings were of German origin. The Swedes never wanted to be a part of that union,True. But the Nobles saw the union as a way to earn more money.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 It was the Swedes themselves that got rid of its German king "AIDED" by the Danes and Norsk. Uh I guess you would call an army, the supplies, and royal blessings just aid. You know since a Swede led them it was all from Sweden. Also about the Fat-American part, another YT cmer called me it, I guess I got the posts mixed, But no i am not a fat American. continued.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik Danish people don't whine like you do.
A Scandinavian will never try to be something they are not. You are a typical American trying to be part of a certain nationality because you think you've got some kind of physical and mental connection to that country.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@workatthefarm I was born in Denmark therefore I am Danish. I just recently got American Citizenship, and I never said Gotaland was Danish, pay a closer look at my argument.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik Then type in Danish to me.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@workatthefarm You are right, He obviously is an American, He is terribly ignorant about what he is speaking about.
Are you Finnish btw?
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 No.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Har du sett hans kanal?
Han påstår att han är över 190 cm lång, från Roskilde och i flygskola. Hah-haha....HAHAHAHAHAHA.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@workatthefarm hahaha! Har inte tittat på hans kanal, Han förstår inte Danska heller tror jag. Han är nog en sån där wannabe Skandinav från USA.. Finns många av dom där.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Han påstår sig vara en "Norse-Gael" HAHAHAHAHA så synd bara att det folket inte finns nåmera.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@workatthefarm Finns Amerikaner som hävdar att dom är Kelter också,haha!
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Ugh.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@DanMarik Hey mister Danish 6'6 tall pilot. Isn't it too narrow in the cockpit for you?
You're obese and over 190 cms tall? Oh dear, the plane or helicopter must be terribly hard for you to control.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Part 2. During the war Sweden and Den-Nor fought many battles, and though the outcome was in favor of the Swedes, the Danes had their share of victories throughout the war. Also I would like to make it clear, It was Margaret of Denmark who created the Union not a German King. The war was the first time Sweden could stand toe-to-toe with Denmark. And it only took a decade of supplying and arming for them to do so. Continued.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik During the wars before Sweden obviously had the upper hand in every war when looking at statistics and the results from those wars. Sweden won most of the battles before and took part after part and part of Denmark, Sadly the Norwegians had to pay dearly for the Danes mistakes to go to war against Sweden. The Danish kings surrendered Norwegian territories mostly except during the war in 1658, Then the Sneaky danes were forced to give up Danish landparts.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Yes ill agree that Sweden had an Upperhand, how could they not, but you cannot just ignore all the victories as mere statistics. Also Norway was just as much in the war as the Danes. It wasn't until a corrupted Danish council wanted to call them a Danish province that they were started to wane. (Though they did agree to this) There was nothing on the Danish side that was "sneaky". They fought then lost, lost the right to Norsk Lands and Skane.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik The Danes backstabbed the Swedes more than twice when the Swedes were busy in wars elsewhere. If you really have read history you would have been more silence about "backstabbing" haha.
One Danish backstabb resulted in Denmark loosing 1/3 of its kingdom to Sweden, You were fucking around with the wrong opponent. Sweden had no interest in Denmark until the Danes declared its wars, Idiotic wars that ended with a crushing Danish defeat.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik The Norwegians didnt want to have war against Sweden, In fact. The Swedes and Norwegians along the borders had a very friendly relation to eachother, They traded had marriage e.t.c
During the Great Northern War Karl XII gave specific orders to hes soldiers not to plunder/Rape or burn because the Norwegians were a brother people to the Swedes.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 This is not was is heard by me. Norway and Denmark have shared a brotherhood for many years. Sweden.... Invaded them multiple times. Even if this chant is true. Denmark and Norway have our own Prayer. A furore normannorum libera nos domine ("From the fury of the Northmen deliver us, O Lord!"), This was in England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Northern France, and Germany. 7th - 9th centuries from the Danish - Norsk Raids.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik Oh so now you want to talk about the Viking age? Well, If you want to learn about the Swedish Vikings you just need to read about what the Vikings did on the Eastern trail. The Swedes founded Kievan Rus, Founded the Varangian guard after they had besieged and plundered around Constantinopel and byzantium Empire, They created a thousend mile trading network and Sweden have most Viking findings in entire Scandinavia, And Runestones and Burrial mounds. And there is much much more to say!
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 What oh hell no. The Varangian were not Swedish. The Varangian was Geatland and Gutland, Hell even Rus' is Geatish The homeland of the Danes. The Swedes were far more North. Wow trying to take credit for the Varangians, thats one I haven't heard from many Swedes. During the time of the Vikings Sweden or Svealand was about the Third of the population of Norway and were having more conflicts with their Sami neighbors than they could handle. Wow the nerve. Not even I try to claim them.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik What the fuck are you talking about? The Geats never went eastwards in fact. The geats turned to christianity already during the 9th century. And that doesnt mather at all since the Geats along with the Swedes and Guts travelled with eachother. In Svithiod most of Swedens 4000 runestones is located, all about the Vikings that went East. THe Rus arrived from Rodslagen in todays Uppland. The Finnish and Estonian name for Sweden today is still Ruotsi and Rootsi.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik The Varangian guard was founded by Basil II after the Rus Vikings wars against Byzantium Empire, He was so impressed by the Swedish Vikings that he hired them as hes personal bodyguard and Elit troops out on the battlefield and thus created Varangian Guard. The Homeland of the danes is NOT GEATLAND you idiot. Geatland is located in Sweden, and togheter with the Svear and Gutes they created Sweden and became SWEDES.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik Uppland back then, The homeland of the Svear were the major pagan capital in entire Scandinavia with the Uppsala temple located there and the huge burrial mounds after ancient and mighty chieftains (Possibly from the Vendel era) Accourding to Adam of Bremen every man in entire (Todays Sweden) had to go there each year to take part in rituals and worshipp the Asatro Gods.
joonte1010 3 months ago
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@DanMarik Seriously? Are you so damn dumb and ignorant about this? Why dont you fucking read about the subject before you try something? Gudars skymning..
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Danes, Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Zealanders, Svea, Finnic-Slav and Gotlanders all took part of the Varangian traders, even a few became personal guards for the Emperor of Eastern Rome. But Sweden had not even existed yet. Also both Denmark and Sweden show very similar Runnic patterns (Norway is the odd one out (isolation)) And all the findings Sweden claim were in southern Sweden and along the trade route. But who owned southern Sweden? Denmark and Geatland.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik You know shit, All the findings have been in either Uppland or Gotland. The Svear,Gutes and Geats were the same people, Spoke the same language. Noone of these had any closer connections to the Danes. Togheter these people later created Sweden and became Swedes. the vast majority of the Runestones in Sweden is located in Uppland. The vast majority of the treasures found is located in Uppland and Gotland. The Varangian guard consisted most of Swedes, THe treasures in Sweden proves this.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Gotland IS the homeland of the Danes. Again these are empty claims as much treasure has been found in Norway and Denmark. Again Svealand was in trouble with the Sami. Gotaland was the root of both of our languages as Both Denmark and Sweden speak with the Eastern Scandinavian Tongue, Norway is the Western. Again show me proof of these hordes of the phantom gold. I love Scandinavian History for what it is not for what people say it is. Show me websites that show this.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik You said Geatland first you idiot, Stop changing all the time. Neither Geatland OR Gotland is the Danish homeland. Svithiod (The realm of the Swedes) created Kievan Rus, They founded the Varangian guard, They established the thousend mile trading network and NO; they didnt have any problems at all with a bunch of fucking Samis, They taxed them just like the Norwegians did. I will give you proof of this, You are obviously terribly ignorant about this.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 DanMarik är en ful, fet ljugare.
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@DanMarik "TheFrankishAnnalsofSt.Bertin refer to a group of Norsemen,who called themselves Rhos and visited Constantinople around the year 838.Fearful of returning home via the steppes,which would leave them vulnerable to attacks,these Rhos travelled through Germany accompanied by Greek ambassadors from the Byzantine emperor Theophilus.When questioned by the German Emperor Ludwig the Pious at Ingelheim,they informed him that they lived far to the north,and that they were Swedes"
joonte1010 3 months ago
watch?v=SU3RzmJs3Qk
a documentary about the Rus Vikings.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik watch?v=AMOhkTbbQ5A&feature=channel_video_title
A video about the Viking Rus, Containing information you obviously didnt know.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik And if you ever come by Stockholm, You need to visit the Swedish Museum of National Antiquities. There you get a full view of the Swedish Viking treasures with information and alot of other things.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik Search for "In English - Historiska museet" on google to enter the Swedish Museum of National Antiquities and watch the video on the main page about the "Gold room".
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik You can always use Google to search for "Rus Vikings" or "Varangian Rus" or why not "Vikings" or Wikipedia. You get atleast the basic informations from those sites, Otherwise you need to read books about the subject or visit the Swedish Museum of National Antiquities.
oh! And look at my channel, On my channel description i have posted a link about the Varangian guard if you scroll down a little, Take a look at that aswell!
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Moving this to priv since word counts a bitch.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik Denmark hardly have any runestones except for a few ones in Jutland and själland. Sweden however is full of them, Just as Sweden is full of treasures from the Viking age and Burrial mounds from the Viking age. Many of the Runestones is dedicated to warriors that took service in the Varangian guard, Died or returned home with great Wealth. Sweden even have way more Arabic gold coins than the arabs themselves have from that era, Sweden have most Byzantium coin findings in entire europe.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik Geatland is Danish? Really? Then how come Götaland (Geatland) is STRICTLY in Sweden?
workatthefarm 3 months ago
@DanMarik Sweden and Norway had a close relation with eachother during the early medieval age and Viking age. During the early medieval age we even had the same King and our countries prospered.. But then the black death (Digerdöden) arrived.
Today you can see friendly Norway and Sweden jokes but the oldest one is probably from the 13th century when Birger Jarl instructed his men not to call the Norwegian guests "Norrbagge".
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 "sadly the norwegians had to pay" well you got that right, we werent allowed to have a trained army due to danes fearing a rebellion. In 1628 the norwegian army was established, and only in a small number, so it would be easily controled. Most norwegian served in the navy. Numbers show that 10 000 of 15 000 men in the navy was norwegian, rest was danes and dutchmen. Sevral of the most famous danish navy heros are norwegians, like Tordenskiold, Ivar Huitsfeldt, Cort Adeler
tordengud 1 month ago
@joonte1010 - the danish new frigates will bear the name of Ivar Huitsfeldt. And as funny as it is, the danes call it their fleet. In fact, several of the line ships were also built in Norway. So, the danes wouldnt create a large norwegian army, but they were more than willing to let the norwegians form the main bulk of the fleet, including the admirality. This wouldnt pose a risk of rebellion. Denmark throwed Norway into wars we did not have any interest in, and stole our resources.
tordengud 1 month ago
@tordengud Denmark was never good for Norway, They used your country as something they could "Pay off" Sweden with in defeats, I heard from a Norwegian friend that the Norwegians did a rebellion similure to the one in Sweden during the Kalmar Union. But the Norwegian rebellion were brutaly beaten down and the people were hanged inside a house or something, Not sure what he said but it was something like that.
joonte1010 1 month ago
@joonte1010 No, there was never a big rebellion here. There are many factors to that. 1. The norwegian civil war, witch whiped out the old nobility, and strengthened the kings position. 2. Due to that, Norway as the only country in Scandinavia altered the old germanic law of heritage, so instead of being an elective kingdom, like Sweden and Denmark, the kingdom would pass to son from father. This would later become common in Sweden and Denmark as well. Witch made the ppl -
tordengud 1 month ago
@joonte1010 - more faithful to the kingdom. And thereby reduce the risks of rebellions. 3. The black death whiped out the rest of the old nobility. After the line of kings died out with queen Margarets son Olav, there were no legal hair left, and no nobility to really take over. No leaders to form a rebellion and so on. There was a pesant rebellion in Telemark, and danish troops was sent. The farmers were told to put down their weapons and negotiate under peace, they did, but the -
tordengud 1 month ago
@joonte1010 danes then atacked the unarmed pesants. This is the famous rebellion that ended in backstabbing and horror, in 1540. So, when Norway was reduced to nothing, by almost 100 years of civil war, and then the black death, lack of nobility, fallowed up by the end of the royal line, the danes got the upper hand. The union was intended to be a containment from hanseatic pressure, but ended up being dominated by the danes. BUT, the past is the past.
tordengud 1 month ago
@joonte1010 Regarding the rebellion: //lokalhistoriewiki.no/index.php/Bondeoppr%C3%B8ret_1540
tordengud 1 month ago
@joonte1010 Part 3. Norway wasn't as advance of as the other two because of Isolation, look at a map. The capital was made Copenhagen because at the time there was no great Stockholm, Oslo was in shabs, and the namesake of the Union was just not worth the title. Also Sweden didn't want to leave the Union, they wanted it. (King Charles VIII), also they didn't fight their way out. Twice they rebelled, twice Den-Nor suppressed it. (King Christian II) Until they had finally allowed their secession.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik The Union was made mainly to make Denmark bigger and stronger,All the power were put in Denmark and each year the Sneaky Danes tried to claim more and more power over Sweden and Norway.Heavily taxed the Swedish population and the Swedes had to pay for the failed wars the Union had against some German State.Twice the Swedes rebelled but were unable to organise themselves,The third time Gustav Vasa defeated the Danes completely and crushed the hopes for the Danes to make Sweden rejoin.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Lol, there was NO tax upon the swedes by the danes. Did you forget? This was a UNION not a Empire, nor a Coalition. In this Union all collaborates had to provide supplies and forces as a Unified force. For two whole decades Sweden was excused from this. Denmark had no right nor tried to exercise a right to tax Sweden, maybe trade though. That was between Denmark and Norway after the Union failed.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik There were tax collectors that went around in Sweden forcing the peasents to pay. High taxes. I thought you knew this? haha. It lead to the Engelbrekt rebellion.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 Part 4. If you wanted to discuss History then you could have replied, this insulting is just ignorant and is unbecoming of anyone. However I do not believe one country is more important than the other, Sweden had their Golden Age, and Denmark had theirs. I do not agree with how Sweden came to power but still it was their Golden Age. Now to your first comment. I am no fat American. I was born in Roskilde, Denmark moved to America when I was little. I have as much right to speak as you
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik You do not agree about what? Sweden came to power through pure military strenght and drilled soldiers and heavily experienced ones. That is the main reason why Sweden emerged after the 30 years war as a European Great power, Something Denmark never have been. Swedish soldiers were often considered as Europes most skilled and experienced ones.The French admired them, The Germans feared them, The Russians had respect for them and the Poles hated them.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 I do not agree with the fact that Sweden used the supplies they stockpiled from Den-Nor to win a war. No one feared them (More on that later). Maybe some Norwegians but no more. The short-term Swedish Empire was strong yes but lasted only 150 years. Only a Swedish man would say that the Swedish were the most skilled and Experienced ones. The French loved them, the Germans taxed the hell out of them, and Russia planned their demise.
DanMarik 3 months ago
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@DanMarik ""Infantry before the era of bayonet were armed with pikes and firearms.
In the 1600s the Swedish infantry was considered as the best in the World.
They were tall and strong men , well-trained , and led by great generals .""
""The Swedes are long, strong, flexible, able to endure the hard work, hunger and distress. They are born warriors full of pride." Francois Voltaire in 1713 "
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik The Russians were defeated time after time after time before the Great Northern War and Poltava. The Swedes conquered their territores along the baltic coast, kicked them out from the baltic sea. The Germans were heavily defeated by the Swedes during the 30 years war and as a result of that and what the Swedes did in Germany the Germans often used to tell their children chants to scare them.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik German childrenchant to scare them to obey if they had done something stupid.
Bet, Kindlein, bet! Morgen kommt der Schwed, Morgen kommt der Ochsenstern, wird die Kindlein beten lern’, Bet, Kindlein, bet! ’Be, lilla barn, be! Imorgon kommer svensken. Imorgon kommer Oxenstierna, och han skall lära små barn att be. Be, lilla barn, be!’
They also used to say "Behave! Or else the Swedes will come and take you"
joonte1010 3 months ago
@joonte1010 After having enough of the "Swedish Empire"
Russia and Denmark-Norway fought them in order to stop their expansion. Pol-Lith was flip-floppin between as was GB.
I speak of the Great Northern War. Lasted 21 years. Eventually the fall of Sweden came and Denmark finally received Sleswig and Sweden kept Skane.
DanMarik 3 months ago
@DanMarik Russia alone won the Great Northern war since Denmark-Norway and Poland and Saxony proved to be no match for Sweden. After Poland and Saxony had been defeated the Swedes turned their eyes Eastwards, Towards Russia. But the Russians used the cowardly tactic sorched earth to heavily weaken the Swedish army. The Swedes lacked shelter against the cold and they couldnt find any food. The Russians defeated Napoleon and Hitler the same way.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik The Swedes defeated the Danes early in the war, In year 1700.. karl XII marched with the Swedish army to conquer Copenhagen and entire Denmark but then the English,Dutch and French once again saved Denmark.. Instead Sweden went east, Crushed the Russian army at Narva and then invaded Poland.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik During the Swedish invasion of Poland after the 30 years war the Swedes ravaged the country, Occupied half of it. The Poles even offered the Swedish King Karl X the Polish throne since the Polish king had fleed the country, But he werent interested. He only invaded Poland to plunder as much as possible. Some Poles claim that the Swedes were responsible for the death of over 2/4 of the Polish population. That the Swedes were way more cruel than the Germans during WW2.. Offcourse a lie.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik But the Poles still remembers the Swedish invasion or "The Deluge" as they call it in their national anthem were Sweden and that war is mentioned.
joonte1010 3 months ago
@DanMarik I have never claimed you to be a fat American, But since you brought that subject up i suppose you are a fat American?
joonte1010 3 months ago
@Finni100 We dont want the Kalmar union back, and Sweden was the ones who hated the union the most, we had constantly inner conflicts, but what you say about that we want it back is half-true, we want to create a strong trade, communication and cooperation with the other Scandinavian country's, witch could be better described as an alliance!
AdamVikingen 1 year ago
@Finni100 The new Karlmar union wouldn't be the same as it was ;)
We would be more like the USA or..
the UNITED STATES OF THE NORTH!!
PesiCool 1 year ago
@Finni100 That's because things are different now.. We wouldn't get opressed like they did in the old days.
PesiCool 1 year ago
@Finni100 would be funny if it was now since Denmark-Norway or Sweden-Norway didn't last either and on top of that they each decided to be fancy and invent their own separate language and make as large cultural barrier from each other as possible
unurautare 1 year ago
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@Finni100 would be funny if it was now since Denmark-Norway or Sweden-Norway didn't last either and on top of that they each decided to be fancy and invent their own separate language and make as large cultural barrier from each other as possible
unurautare 1 year ago
@Finni100 Danmark loved it! It was Danmark who came with the idea
PYDDZIExTHECRAFTER 5 months ago
@Finni100 Denmark formed it, and Norway was enjoying the power, Sweden hated it.
DanMarik 4 months ago
@DanMarik I know. I know :)
Finni100 4 months ago
I looked this up asked many who can geography, and all they say that this is the countrys are:
Scandinavia= Norway, Sweden and Denmark.
Nordic= Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland and Finland.
However I like you video :)
Finni100 2 years ago
Kalmar unionen skal igen opstå!
JSSJSDASD 2 years ago 2
NORDEN ÖVER ALLA!!!
TheShadowwolf88 2 years ago 3
Homsegutts! XD
joonte1010 2 years ago
Finland var aldrig med i unionen! det var en del utav sverige men om det räknas kan man säga att island och grönland också var med och varför inte ta med åland, svalbard, färöarna osv. de är delar av andra länder, kan inte gå på dagens politiska gränser när man gjort en film om en personal union för hundratals år sedan då får man gå på den tidens politiska gränser.
Bebbelina 2 years ago
Since when did Finland become Scandinavia?!
boeershna 2 years ago
During the time of the Kalmar Union Finland was under Swedish control, hence part of the union.
Almogrief1 2 years ago
In this video...
iDenmark 2 years ago
København as the capital! Or Köbenhamn like the swedes say :P
iDenmark 2 years ago
Köpenhamn* ;D
I would rather see Stockholm or another Swedish city as the capital though. Sweden is after all Scandinavias bigest country, with the highest amount of population...
Flod92 2 years ago
You might have the biggest population, not when Denmark and Norway corner you though :P Anyway, Denmark is still bigger in regards to size... When you include Greenland anyway :P
Almogrief1 2 years ago
Greenland can't be counted as a belonging to Denmark. Norway with it's huge amount of land in Antarktis called "Drottning Mauds land" neither.
What do you mean with "Corner" btw? :P
Flod92 2 years ago
Yes, but Denmark was the owner of the real Kalmar Union and we shouldnt change that... Skånings are still ethnic danes though they have been "swedenised"
iDenmark 2 years ago
Times have changed, and now Sweden has the biggest economy and industry in Scandinavia.
Skåne has been Swedish for more then 300 years, and if you call them "ethnic danes", then with other words: Finland is a belonging to Sweden, Norway is a belonging to Sweden, Estonia is a belonging to Sweden and so on...
The big mayority of "Skånings" consider themselves to be Swedish, and only like 3% voted for "Skånepartiet" in the election.
Flod92 2 years ago
No because Fins have never been Swedish, they've just been ruled by the swedes... Then you could also say that in Estonia the population is danish because it has been danish once... You know that you actually just assimilated Norwegians and Danes? People who are living in Scania, Bohuslän and Jämtland aren't swedes, they have just been assimilated so they think like swedes and talk swedish. You just weren't successful in doing the same to the fins...
iDenmark 2 years ago