Madchester - The Sound of the North (part 1 of 8)

[Powerman32]

R.I.P. Tony Wilson. The greatest cunt to ever exist in the music world.

[diskochimp]

James Brown, what a tit.

[Oscar301]

No other city had a Tony Wilson - this suit-wearing square, a TV insider, who just championed great bands no one else gave the first shit about

[davidsan01]

bloody hell Danny Kelly less than 20 stone!

[29Amps]

thanks so much for uploading this, Mancunian, 16 in 1990 ;-)

[talktal]

rip youth culture

[talktal]

rip youth culture

[seaseabal]

u plastic ockneys lol hehehe some wankers pretends to be in that climat WTF

[UNITEWAD]

I Lived on the minners under Northside Those were the days! DJ(UNITE)MC -- UK.

[cuntylishus]

Northside....where are they now?

[doubleredsx3]

message: thatcher cannot stop culture.

[doubleredsx3]

the introductory theme tune is by the bass clarinet (just saying!- i play that!) honestly though, stone roses, happy mondays, northside, 808 state, james, inspiral carpets, charlatans... need to continue?

[MrMetalheart10]

fuckin NME guys make me wanna shoot someone

[henergy91]

haha the old people complaining is quality!

[MrDJJACOB]

I hate to tell you guys this , but most Americans don't even know where "Europe is in England". So feel safe in knowing Americans can have a piss now ! Great scene , thanks for posting and cheers!

[usronejm]

the nme guys were annoying.

[CJOKUSAP]

@SAC960 --- it's an estate where miners lived. what were you thinking it might have been?

[hbjadoll]

rame euy ^_^

[glarpspooge]

All that over one comma! hahahahahahaha

[indio77777]

@glarpspooge Punctuation is very important, i've prosecuted people for less.

[thedizzies1]

@indio77777 "i've prosecuted people for less"

That "I" should be capitalized, friend.

[indio77777]

@thedizzies 1 I'm afraid you're wrong pal. The words you have quoted are part of one sentence, "i've" is preceeded by a comma not a full stop.

[thedizzies1]

@indio77777 Yes, sir, but an "I" when referring to oneself, is capitalized just as the first letter of one's name is.

[indio77777]

@thedizzies1 You are in fact correct. Very well done for spotting my deliberate mistake. It's refreshing to know there are people out there who still regard this issue with a great deal of importance. May I just say that the commas after "yes" and "oneself" are not entirely necessary.

[thedizzies1]

@indio77777 No not entirely, but I tend to put commas where I would pause if I were actually speaking the sentence.

[Salfordbluemoon]

Well, for a shite hole, we don't do too bad, eh? I was just interested to know what makes where you come from, NOT a shite hole....it must be somewhere like Monte Carlo or Nice, yeah? Don't tell me it's another city in the UK !! I can think of quite a few places that ARE worse the Manchester. I think you're just jealous.

[indio77777]

@Salfordbluemoon Jealous, don't make me laugh, i'd rather live in Bagdad...less violence. keep guessing pal.

[runtinsweet]

@Salfordbluemoon You should learn to ignore the mystical powers of the internet troll.

[Salfordbluemoon]

@runtinsweet Advice taken, mate. haha

[indio77777]

There's no place worse than Manchester, however, two fantastic bands emerged from that shite hole - the Happy Mondays and the Inspiral Carpets. Both bands piss all over Oasis.

[Salfordbluemoon]

@indio77777 You've probably never been. Oh...and you forgt to mention...Buzzcocks, Joy Division, the Fall, New Order, the Smiths, James, Stone Roses, 808 State, A Guy Called Gerald, Doves....... what amazing place do you come from?

[indio77777]

@Salfordbluemoon I have been to Manchester, therefore i'm qualified to make a judgement. You are correct, i forgot to mention The Smiths and the Buzzcocks. The rest were overated rubbish, and i do include the Stone Roses. James were an abomination. Where i come from is irrelevant. Maybe i was a little harsh in my criticism of the city as my visits were mainly central with the odd outer skirt excursion.

[BilboBaghead81]

@indio77777 Youre a twat. You are just a twat. Ive read all your comments. Youre a twat. Keep commenting on Manchester. Keep being that twat.

[indio77777]

@BilboBaghead81 Your punctuation needs a lot of work, have you ever heard of an 'apostrophe'? Your comment is therefore worthless and i doubt very much that you understood anything i said.

[Salfordbluemoon]

@indio77777 You put a comma where there should have been a full stop.

[indio77777]

@Salfordbluemoon Don't be silly, bird brain.

[BilboBaghead81]

@indio77777 Youre an internet troll, and everytime this guy responds to a comment which in turn is a (usually angry) response to this loser, he gets excited. This is because indio7777 is a failure. The guy isnt even innovative, he just copied the previous internet troll. My guess is you have never been to Manchester and listen to the radio a lot. Do you get that feeling of VICTORY!! when you respond to a comment? Thats because real life has gone from you mate. You failed it hard. Unlucky. TWAT!

[Salfordbluemoon]

@BilboBaghead81 I'm not angry...i just think he's a joke, too.  A bad joke. And he put a comma where there should have been a full stop after getting all snotty with you about it. So, HIS comment is therefore worthless and i doubt very much that HE understood anything i said. Yeah, he's never been to Manchester...he'd be too scared to come.

[indio77777]

@Salfordbluemoon Where do you suppose this full stop should be then? being as you can't leave it alone.

ALso, why do you have to get so damn serious about your city? no sense of humour, that's your problem. Most people can recognise the good and bad in the place they live.

I have been to Manchester and it was enough to make decide never to go back.

Too scared eh? you're as good as admitting what a violent hole it is.

[Salfordbluemoon]

@indio77777 You've got boring now...fuck off.

[indio77777]

@Salfordbluemoon Idiot.

[indio77777]

@BilboBaghead81 "Internet troll", can't you come up with something original? You can't even string a coherent paragraph together, let alone punctuate it correctly. I suggest you stop taking those drugs and refrain from making comments until you can learn to read and write.

[sonicwingnut]

1:28 - The sort of clothing you'd be embarrased if your Dad wore on a trip to a remote garden centre populated by pensioners. Even if you were a massive goth.

[hopey666]

tony wilson legend....r.i.p

[joydivision808]

danny kelly on talksport now lol

[robbiejd]

The song is rising star by northside

[Devmeister91]

and also... what is the song that starts at 4.37ish during the meat factory scene?

[goonchistaw]

@Devmeister91 it's moody places by northside rising star is later @ 6mins

[beatsteves]

please someone tell me whats the song at 5:50 PLEASE!!!

[booadams]

@beatsteves rising star Northside.

[leedumett444]

MANCHESTER SCENE THE BEST

[leedumett444]

i love this docu when manchester became firmly on the map

[BahmanG]

what band is that, at 6:50, toward the end. not bad.

[raven19702003]

@BahmanG the band is called northside

[WizLaudan73]

"I know...That you know...That they know...That we know..."...lol... Maaan they were the fookin days of my life. MC Tunes was always a twat but always gave me and my pals a good laugh..."I feel sick...like i aite a pound of raw pork" WTF...lol.."Nish, Clish n Bang"..hahahaha..Wot a twat!.

[Ingleburt]

Manchester is wank now...... They have The BirdCage club which has people dressed up as full on rent boys with thier dicks tucked in thier knicks. and thats just the bouncers

[sewitt60]

@Ingleburt, whoa, wrong! The Birdcage is wank, do not tar the whole of Manchester with that shit. That's just plain lazy. Never heard of Mint Lounge? Or The Deaf Institute, or the Factory? Get out there, find them and stop moaning.

[liamMCR]

when was this first broadcast?

[andrewt008]

@liamMCR if my memory serves me right it was 1st shown on tv early 1990? ive still got this on vhs format when it was on 1st time around!!!

[marcushookdale]

fucking good stuff m8 pistols class act

[richiesking]

stuart maconie is a northern twat.

[MrMetalheart10]

the best bit of this video was the pistols at the beggining and they're shit.

[homes9846]

u plastic cockneys wouldn't no a tune iv it slapped u in the face we started the warehouse days ov glory

[Williams010Leffield]

@homes9846

haha whey its funny that like considering on another documentary a man who knows a fair whack about music- however much he does know i can be sure its alot more than you-says the real start of the 'warehouse days ov glory' was actually the sex pistols first gig, a london band not a northern one. still though, northern music is a fuck load better than that cockney shit

[freestyleminibus]

Stuart Maconie showing off as usual.

[escociagirl]

@freestyleminibus I like Stuart Maconie... x

[mlc3]

we had the M25 illegal rave you soppy manc twat

[lbwsky]

ha ha yeah legendary, did they write a book about it? er no. did they make a film about it? er no. Was the Hac already going years before your M25 rave? er yes. Should you shut up? I think you know the answer...

[mlc3]

Well they didnt have PR spin merchants like Tony Wilson & John Peel making them out to be the epic centers of UK music but then for all the hype the Hac was still just a glorified nightclub... it was TOTP with pills.

The real underground cool shit was going on elsewhere

[lbwsky]

Its epicentre mate not epic centre but anyway. Yeah there was cool underground shit going on everywhere, north and south, thats not the point, the point is our little northern TOTP with pills kind of started and led the scene in the UK and without it, nothing would have been the same, not clubs, not raves and not DJs. Anyway peace man one thing is for sure its no where near as exciting now as it was then...

[costrock]

fuck the m25 orbital raves........we had blackburn......

[89cheapmonday]

amen brother

[MrAguafiesta]

@costrock yeh tony.

[CatfordCat]

Cheers for posting this - I had a copy of this video from back in the day - have not seen it for around 18 years!

[ariannahiggins]

ahhhhh nostalgia

[bcrick82]

I've played at the dry bar they must of cleaned it up for this docu coz it wasn't that nice lookin

[coltsuperocean10]

danny Kelly was the biggest fuck geek, wet bastard ever!!

[pierre59000live]

Thank you so much for this brilliant documentary !

[ghostofsedition]

"Witty use of a red girder up there."

[dontleademsomuch]

it was all northern and great but without the london boys the sex pistols it wouldnt have happened, bow to the capital city

[Evemeister12]

The irony of all these Mancs who slagged off London for being awful is that they ignore the fact that the Manc artists were influenced by the Sex Pistols...

who were from London

[ezelite]

loadsa people talk a loada shit, its all good really

[psirou]

But the londoners had to get to Manchester to make it all "happen".

[Evemeister12]

It was happening already, the Mancs were forced to play catch up.

[psirou]

But then again the bands that really mattered rose from Manchester.

Buzzcocks.

Joy Division~New Order.

The Smiths.

Martin Hannett.

The people at the free trade hall pistols gig fed on the pistols' energy to greater things of their own.

And yes, while the pistols were important as a statement for the youth, musically they were a bit overrated..

[Evemeister12]

Great bands, no question. But you've missed the crucial point. Without the Pistols all that may never have happened at all or just not in the way that it did,

[psirou]

Right, point taken, but that doesn't mean that the mancunian scene was inferior or owed everything to londoners coming to manchester that resulted in the whole music scene.

As far as I know the whole rave scene ~ madchester thing stands as a proof of the town and its environment producing more than just the odd successful band.

As Cantona said:

"Behind the windows of Manchester there is an insane love of football, of celebration and of music."

[Evemeister12]

If you go back to my first comment on this page, the target of my ridicule was those Mancunian posters (and people in the video) who make unprovoked criticisms of London music, ignore the important fact that the explosion of Manc music owes a great deal of debt to something that came from London.

And after his seagulls phase, it's become a little hard to take Eric Cantona seriously :-p

[psirou]

I don't think Manc music owes that great deal to London personally.

Imho, Mancunians take their music way too seriously to be inspired by just the one band. To me the near religiousness of music appreciation there has more to do with the resulting explosion than just the pistols.

And I think that the target of much of the ridicule was the london press, not the bands per se.

[psirou]

As for Cantona - he did mention that the seagulls comment was in jest as he did not know what to say in the press conference really. :)

[hoppybhoy71]

@Evemeister12 you could go back further..many 60s garage punk bands..and the beatles..influenced too many to mention.

[matt0161555]

don't you mean buy it, long passed its sell-by date

[hoppybhoy71]

@Evemeister12 yeah the stone roseswere influenced by the pistols lol..they did listen to them..but influence..just listen to LOVE and you will see..

[syncopated84]

theres a TON of amazing talent coming out of london, or anywhere in the world, just gotta dig for it :)

[BattyRanks]

Haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho - ha ha ha ha hah ahah haha ho h o ha.

I assume you were being ironic.

[jaytotale]

haha stuart maconies hairstyle is utter shite

[monkeymajikman]

HELP...ian brown and mani at 1.12 : does anyone know if the complete interview that this clip was taken from exists anywhere? ... i've got roses dvds, vids, bootlegs but i've never seen this interview

[sptol]

1.01-1.57 Track is Rave On (Club Mix) By Happy Mondays it was remixed by Paul Oakenfold and Steve Osborne available on The Madchester Rave On Remix EP long since deleted but may be still on ebay

[sptol]

Thank you so much for posting this i had it on video No Band since Oasis have made that impact and that was because of The Madchester scene and the hype that surrounded it so many brilliant dance places like Konspiricy, The Thunderdome, Gallery and The Hacienda all closed cos of mindless violent thugs who single handedly destroyed the scene and reduced the clubs to rubble!

[pattismithsonian]

what's the name of the song between 1.00 and 1.57? Also, the song between 4.39 and 5.28 is "Moody Places" by Northside isn't it?

[pattismithsonian]

The Fall

[elbeanboymanchester]

I too was 15 when I saw this and it was a great time for music.......but shit for everything else.....Manchester then was still a dirty city centre with loads of empty warehouse(party)s......no fuckin urbis thats for sure......and Fergie nearly got the sack.

[RHutton2710]

Why can't Maconie, Brown et al just bugger off? Why do narcissistic NME twats always have to ruin music? And they forgot The Fall.

[suspect485]

Tony looks pretty slick.

[MorningGlory1997]

what year was this?

[AshtonArcher]

James Brown and Stuart Maconie look so young in this. And as for Dermo he looks around 12!

[KRM70]

Dry still hasn't been changed since that was filmed, I don't think the toilets have been cleaned either.

[magicktorch]

Sam(I presume), thanks a million for posting this. I remember watching this as a 15 year old, desperate to get into the indie/rave scene. I soon did.

These were special days. An entire scene that seemed to exist away from media attention until it was hijacked and became 'Britpop' or whatever.

Oasis V Stone Roses? Roses 1 Gallaghers 0.

[cripone2]

This is the Hacienda now I know it may not look much but it is the catherdal of house music in britain - GOD I have known this line from this programme for around 20 years used to watch this over and over. Went to see Northside just after this programme was shown Shall We Take A Trip - them were the days!!!!!

[magicktorch]

We did EXACTLY the same... memorized those immortal lines. Spooky. We used to laugh at MC Tunes...'the only rhyme that biiiiitesss...'

Sheer quality days.

[msstabby]

NME are and always have been twats.

[Bassmaster86]

I agree.

[matrags]

You got that right buddy.

[xylaphonemaster]

I was only a kid when all this scene was going on, no doubt it'd be worth being ten years older to have experienced it though.

[squirehorse]

take that

[Bimblism]

Brillant That you have put this Documnetary on YouTube , I would love to get a copy of this on DVD because I remember watching it..

[JoeyTheFatKid]

yo, at 1:28 the dude holds up a shirt that reads "90s. Bloggs."

[JoeyTheFatKid]

"this is fashion, this is 90s." LOL!

[JoeyTheFatKid]

the beatles as much as oasis

[pathammond]

Oh durutti column!!!

And crispy ambulance!!!

[Gefilta]

Bernard Manning!

[vegunited06]

when will there be a Madchester-revival?

[frillonandu]

you forgot james and new FADS and paris angels

[pathammond]

A certain Ratio

Section 25

[eatdogs]

the chamelions

[Muddy194]

Im from da north near newcastle actually but it has got 2 be said madchester is da best type of music eva long live the stone roses my faveband da musics quality screw u sutherns

[cydonia2012]

dont ave a go at manchester it's a brill place to get murdered and mugged oh and to get drugs by the way why are the police stations now closing b4 my off liecence - LABOUR IS IN LONDON. TUNES ARE IN MANCHESTER

[KingHotdog]

Northside were the downside to madchester they were just that forced extra attempt a bit like britpop in 95 with the likes of menswear and echobelly.

[ctidcarl]

Fairplay KingHotDog and its all about taste, I appreciate.

But I think Northside firmly belong as part of the Madchester scene and the album "Chicken Rythyms" is a cult album amongst us followers.

Dermot was a good, cocky frontman who played the crowd well, I think it was at the Free Trade Hall where I saw them "back in the day" and he was top.

Can anyone remember when "Shall we take a Trip" was the theme music to Granada Soccer Night (circa 90-92), hosted by that Elton Welsby??

[kevindoo2007]

Im so pissed i missed out on this scene,Im 19 now but id give anything to be 19 back then,*sighs*,The Stone Roses,Happy Mondays,The Smiths,Such a brilliant time to be alive

[cajjer]

Make your own scene instead of hankering after a past that wasn't what you think it was... :)

[rhysypoo]

Well done for putting these vids on youtube. I enjoyed. Respect

[elyurita]

biggest bands from manchester! northerner europeans unite against south

[CJOKUSAP]

I'm wrong actually kez. It's Rising Star as someone mentioned below. The one before it was Moody, tho. lol

[sveny7]

Can someone please tell me the song from 5:53 to 6:54. thanks.

[dommo808]

lol the guy from northside works in a chicken factory

[uuilson]

does anyone know what year this is from?

[mlucifersam]

1990

[greengate1999]

thank the lord for Manchester!!!!!

[slideshowrod]

Blimey look at Maconie!! Never seen this before - thanks so much for posting.

[mlucifersam]

Hope this proves interesting. I found it on a video from years ago and then saw it wasn't on YouTube. Fascinating viewing I think!

[enzo48]

Mate you're a star! Saw this when it first went out on tv in 1990 I think. Had it on video nd watched it loads then it got lost somewhere. Was hoping it'd show up on here. Awesome, cheers.

[kezncurt]

whats the the song you can hear starting up as paul walsh out of northside is shown working? is it one of theirs?

[CJOKUSAP]

The song is Moody Places, and it is by Northside.

[kezncurt]

cheers mate.

[EYE2EYE00]

ace , thanks for this