did this game also have the US CGC ships? such as the CGC Taney? I also saw the Yorktown class, USS Yorktown CV-5, were you able to get others in the clas, such as CV-6 Enterprise, and CV-8 Hornet?
Well guys i saw the -1 plz im not serious, hers the thing: i saw some ppl still doing where are the BB6? or subs. for example gamersarea. posted where are the subs? well they were still makin em.
just plz read that comment( mine before u say anything)
When this vid was made, subs had yet to be added. This vid does need updating yes. Stil it serves its purpose, playing the US shipyard music and showing the main US ships.
There was no BB.South Dakota then it was first introduced in 2007 thats when it first started so it was 2006 then so guys BETTER READ THIS SO YALL DON'T GET CONFUSED By the way i play too im lvl 87 US Devilfreak arizona server
selling account server missouri US BO lv 77 boosted with PBB (sevestopol) 2 LV 82 boosted acc huge guns 4 engy 2 repair most boosted or prem sailer UK lvl 83 BO boosted 2 LVL 82 ACC Huge gun 2 boost AA lvl 62 repar 5 1 boosted high lvl restore 1 radio man lvl 51 with PBB (Dunkerque) highest bidder !!
Hey guys I got an idea. Stick with the Fletcher till like your ready for CL. Brooklyn than wait till you can get the Baltimore or the Newmexico. Sounds crazy huh? well that will get you billions if you do it. Trust me it's best to wait for a cl than a bc or bb or a carrier depending what you want and I mean the Independence class.
reccomend you dont buy any of em. stick with the flesher until u can buy a DDX project or if you want to go the extra mile then wait till you can get the Atlanta. then you can stay with it until you can afford any Carriers,Cruisers or Subs. good way of saving your money. you can buy new turrets sicne they dont cost much. but some of em take alot of space and destroyers dont have that much so be careful.
I personally preferred Fletcher->DD(X)->Omaha->Cleveland->Baltimore route for USN but others might not like it and prefer the classic Atlanta->Brooklyn grind instead.
Look at when this video was made; it was made before the Nebraska and the Midway and subs came out and so with that information in mind you now know that he only really left out the Sevastopol and the South Dakota.
I want to play this game but every time I log in the grant access thing comes up but I cant see it because I cant put the game in windows mode can some one help me, please?
The biggest Sub is now the Alaska class sub, now that the USSR's sub was disbanned.
The biggest AC is the George Washington, wich is in service, but is being expanded.
The biggest Battleship is the Iowa, The Iowa has so much damn firepower, im surprised it hast taken out all of the damn middle east and they're terrorist son's of bitch terrorists....
technically it's the Iowa Class because she [Iowa] has three sisters: New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin that are the same size and they haven't taken out all the middle east because Missouri is a museum and the others are in mothballs.
the biggest ships are yamato and bismark i think the biggest aircraft carrier is the washigton class which is still being built and plus i think aircraft carrier is good because it has guns and can load aircraft [duh] but a bb has more fire power
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we know that cheng, but now were in the 21st century, most of those ships have been sunk or scrapped. They live on in games like this, and people who wanted to command these ships will never have a chance in real, but in the game its different.
thats some crazy cannon set up for amiricans i never got passed the flecture to busy working on brits, o and they have alot of aa cannons they can put on those things.
your ship lists are obviously out of date and a little incomplete. If I have your information, I would like to do my own, more comeplete version of such a list.
its free the whole time? how to run it i run the program and get the EULA screen....but my pointer...cursor is not there i cant do anything...HOW TO RUN AND PLAY
cyclops and another thing is why the fuck do we always gwt pwned when we use navy??? awnser: we have damn small ships the japanize haw huge freakin ships with armord EVERYTHING
not true America had small/fast hard to hit ships while having smaller, yet stronger, higher velocity guns. Also most US ships were modern and made within 10 years of the war while Japans was made mostly in the 1910-20s. And if the Japanese navy was so much better...how come they lost.
one reason why jap lost is because there leadership simply was too reluctant to deploy their major ships (Yamato's Nagato's)hoping for a decisive battle fleet engagement that never came. Also the U.S churned out 10 BB's 24 big C.V's around 100 more CVL and CVE's compared to 2 huge BB's(Yamato class)and aroung 20-30 C.V's of all sizes. There was no compitition it was absolutely onesided by numbers alone.
There is another factor you have missed. Japan attacked before the decloration of war was presented. In other words, they sucker punched us. What can piss us off more???=Stefan=
the alaska in real life was a huge CA and classed as a CA hunter
xI0extreem0glitch0Ix 1 month ago
Hey dude, you missed South Dakota.
rulefar109 2 months ago
APA!!??
DJjulitooh 6 months ago
IOWA WAS AWESWOME
artedin1 7 months ago
the lady lex!
RGV250100 8 months ago
and the bb6
marcoscapo159753 10 months ago
Sadly, US Navy sucks in NFKR
fortniz2 10 months ago
what about portland??
MrPierdziel 10 months ago
there is only 3 ships in the yorktown class the enterprise, yorktown and hornet
jerry4915 1 year ago
wtf where is the nebraska
scottirvine15 1 year ago
An APA Ship is a landigship
NavyFieldZocker 1 year ago
Alaska is an Battlecruiser not an battleship. but it counts as one in the Game...
starjetfighter223 1 year ago
wheres uss interprize and uss kitty hawk and uss ronald regan i think?
wassupno3 1 year ago
@wassupno3 they are training mission ships they dont class as us ships to play
Masterfulreaper 1 year ago
@wassupno3 ya where abraham lincoln
aaron654lo 1 year ago
@wassupno3 those are the names enterprise is a yorktown class and so on
capt5656 1 year ago
Ok guys guys guys!!!!! This is from the YEAR 2006 ok? SDE was still working on those ships!!! Btw im at Montana :D
joshua555555555 1 year ago
Where Is ARA Randal!
superpim100 1 year ago
@superpim100 You mean APA ship Randall?
MetallicaRules1231 1 year ago
@MetallicaRules1231 yeah thats actully a cool ship
asdasd3056 1 year ago
and why is a Alaska a BB and a Guam a BC?
4lifeFrank 1 year ago
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llcoollopezramirez 1 year ago
You fogget the South Dakota + Midway and Nebraska
4lifeFrank 1 year ago
Which is better BB or CV???
spartan5536 1 year ago
1:09 i chose BB. Lowa!!
stormdumb 1 year ago
america sucks always
millionhera22 1 year ago
@millionhera22 and so do you :D
lairus4559 1 year ago
does it play okay with just 512 RAM?
emmthreejonny 1 year ago
is this game free? if so, when do i get the Iowa class ships, what level
th4Guy77 1 year ago
Where the APA ???
tuber749 1 year ago
he missed portland too
TheSquishey 1 year ago
And BB Newy York is missing..
Cudanakiju66 1 year ago
did this game also have the US CGC ships? such as the CGC Taney? I also saw the Yorktown class, USS Yorktown CV-5, were you able to get others in the clas, such as CV-6 Enterprise, and CV-8 Hornet?
Kahless02 1 year ago
Where are
South Dakota
Nebraska
midway
submarines
and sevastopol
superpim100 1 year ago
Well guys i saw the -1 plz im not serious, hers the thing: i saw some ppl still doing where are the BB6? or subs. for example gamersarea. posted where are the subs? well they were still makin em.
just plz read that comment( mine before u say anything)
Thx
-DevilFreak
joshua555555555 1 year ago
iam up too North hapton
123Navyfield 1 year ago
and btw guys the montana is my baby.
I got that beast :D
joshua555555555 1 year ago 3
OH MY FUCKING GOD are yall dumbasses?
THIS IS FROM 2006 GOD DAMMIT READ THIS FUCKING COMMENT.
THIS IS FROM 2006( TWO THOUSAND SIX!!!!!)
JESUS THERE WAS NO BB6 OR SUBS OR SOUTHDAKOTA!!!!!!! THEY WERE STILL MAKING THE IDEAS AT THE TIME!!
READ THIS BEFORE U COMMENT ANYTHING STUPID
joshua555555555 1 year ago
@SarahNelsont
Your a creeper aren't you? :3
R4zi3 1 year ago
noob da is keine SODAk du Noob!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hasbert789 1 year ago
where th subs??
gamersarea 1 year ago
this video is from 2006
sasame97 1 year ago
@gamersarea
When this vid was made, subs had yet to be added. This vid does need updating yes. Stil it serves its purpose, playing the US shipyard music and showing the main US ships.
straswa 1 year ago
at least you chose the Pennsylvania over the crappy Tennessee (no offense to anyone from TN).
have yet to be sunk by a Tenny, but I have sunk several.
DavionColdawg 1 year ago
where is the BB south dakota?
kkk208665 2 years ago
oh this is so cool! what game is this?
amartinjoe 2 years ago
this is navy field
THUNDERBOLT013 1 year ago
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lyyvin 2 years ago
woher hast du die ganzen credits ???
Falcjust 2 years ago 2
And everrealx i agree with You.
joshua555555555 2 years ago
Ok guys FOR THE LAST TIME.
THIS IS FROM 2006 ( TWO THOUSAND SIX )
Man yall are dumbasses
READ THE DATE ON THIS GUYS USERNAME
SEPTEMBER 26, 2006 jesus guys there was NO BB6 or Southdakota!!!
joshua555555555 2 years ago 2
Theres no Nebraska!!! Why you keep Nebraska out of this video?! Racists!!!
PedroMM193 2 years ago
hey guy this video was made 3 years ago
Nebraska did not exist then
everrelax 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I know... Im joking
PedroMM193 2 years ago
Alaska was a "large Cruiser" (CB)
DeathbyPianos 2 years ago 2
"CA" was heavy cruiser
EyeYamAffaKingWeTodd 2 years ago
lol south dakota???
lordieco 2 years ago
Guys to put u straight this is from 2006!!
There was no BB.South Dakota then it was first introduced in 2007 thats when it first started so it was 2006 then so guys BETTER READ THIS SO YALL DON'T GET CONFUSED By the way i play too im lvl 87 US Devilfreak arizona server
joshua555555555 2 years ago
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm where south dakota
meatwad1667 2 years ago
what happens if new york is empty what do i do?
Robloxmaster22 2 years ago
Independence is hard to drive :S fall on 5 seconds xD
Artificial20000 2 years ago
Alaska was a CB, a large cruiser, not a Battleship.
HelmutVillam 2 years ago
selling account server missouri US BO lv 77 boosted with PBB (sevestopol) 2 LV 82 boosted acc huge guns 4 engy 2 repair most boosted or prem sailer UK lvl 83 BO boosted 2 LVL 82 ACC Huge gun 2 boost AA lvl 62 repar 5 1 boosted high lvl restore 1 radio man lvl 51 with PBB (Dunkerque) highest bidder !!
nitroXboy 2 years ago
Hey guys I got an idea. Stick with the Fletcher till like your ready for CL. Brooklyn than wait till you can get the Baltimore or the Newmexico. Sounds crazy huh? well that will get you billions if you do it. Trust me it's best to wait for a cl than a bc or bb or a carrier depending what you want and I mean the Independence class.
USAF900 2 years ago
0:37
CL. Blooklyn XD
WW299 2 years ago
i think there are about 7 or 6 WWI ships in this game.
haienbleurgh 2 years ago
hey should i get the somers or gering plese help
wiikid9 2 years ago
reccomend you dont buy any of em. stick with the flesher until u can buy a DDX project or if you want to go the extra mile then wait till you can get the Atlanta. then you can stay with it until you can afford any Carriers,Cruisers or Subs. good way of saving your money. you can buy new turrets sicne they dont cost much. but some of em take alot of space and destroyers dont have that much so be careful.
TheAsianOrient 2 years ago
I personally preferred Fletcher->DD(X)->Omaha->Cleveland->Baltimore route for USN but others might not like it and prefer the classic Atlanta->Brooklyn grind instead.
Taospark 2 years ago
yo get the gering thats what i got
kingrocker2468 2 years ago
anyway, u wont use them later...
horten229pilot 2 years ago
this is a great game
hareronjack 2 years ago
Those 2 technically aren't on the ship tree. And maybe he doesn't have a New York. They're rare, you know.
And I always though that the in dock song didn't go well with the game.
SG14ever 2 years ago 2
hes also missing cl omaha and bc new york. lols.
KyleLexington 2 years ago
missed a few but thats alright. I believe missing
-south dakota
-nebraska
-midway
-the subs
-sevastopol
think thats it.
kouruleoblaze 2 years ago 10
Look at when this video was made; it was made before the Nebraska and the Midway and subs came out and so with that information in mind you now know that he only really left out the Sevastopol and the South Dakota.
Smogger911 2 years ago 12
he missed portland to
0123010 2 years ago 2
Look at when the video was posted.
Second time I have posted this to idots.
Dhnetam0rphsis 2 years ago
@kouruleoblaze umm dude in 2006 the server didnt had nebraska midway and subs+sevstapool
toni2526 1 year ago
@toni2526 yes I relize that.
kouruleoblaze 1 year ago
@kouruleoblaze looka t video date retard
TheSquishey 1 year ago
@kouruleoblaze what about arizona?
lolitheskittlehead 11 months ago
@kouruleoblaze dont forget CV ticonderoga
jotabe1984 11 months ago
no south dacota i am sorry but u missed that out
th3m0nst3r66 2 years ago
i want the bb iowa it looks huge and cooooool
boohelphinstine 2 years ago
i think he missed south dokita
potnude 2 years ago
alaska is BC in game
SuwinTzi 2 years ago
pls i new in thus game and how i can got i new ship cos i lose my frigate
howanet 2 years ago
you writed CL.blooklyn
lexan55 2 years ago
what the game
wkkus 3 years ago
navyfields
konrad12xpl 2 years ago
BROOKLYN IS THE BEST CL
THUNDERBOLT013 3 years ago
you missed the sodak, subs and sevastopol
t223990912 3 years ago
I want to play this game but every time I log in the grant access thing comes up but I cant see it because I cant put the game in windows mode can some one help me, please?
mich1070 3 years ago
write it down dude.
WaznGuy 3 years ago
Omg, somebody say he forgot subs, maybe saw the date when the video released ?
1. On the Test Server you cant get prem ships
2. Subs released in 2008
3. Only a few people play APA , maybe it should be added in a new video
burningthunder74 3 years ago
You need to add subs, APA, PBB and EBB.
Squirrel5555 3 years ago
forgot subs!
nid47 3 years ago
( this vid makes me so sad. some1 msg me!! xD 8
Joeanthem 3 years ago
The biggest Sub is now the Alaska class sub, now that the USSR's sub was disbanned.
The biggest AC is the George Washington, wich is in service, but is being expanded.
The biggest Battleship is the Iowa, The Iowa has so much damn firepower, im surprised it hast taken out all of the damn middle east and they're terrorist son's of bitch terrorists....
Besides that, very nice Vid =]
Paint244 3 years ago
technically it's the Iowa Class because she [Iowa] has three sisters: New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin that are the same size and they haven't taken out all the middle east because Missouri is a museum and the others are in mothballs.
Karlwootwoot 3 years ago 3
*cough* Aircraft Carrier symbol=CV *cough*
Squirrel5555 3 years ago
teh yamato-class was bigger...
horten229pilot 2 years ago
the bigger they are the harder they fall
TheDbend 2 years ago
sometimes... the big iowa-class ships didnt fall hard, but there were bigger than bismarck and tirpitz.
horten229pilot 2 years ago
I used to play this game when it was free. Kinda sucks. Takes too long to get new ships.
christmanpunch 3 years ago
Navy Field ... a massively multiplayer online tactics simulation game based on World War II naval warfare by SD EnterNet(Korea).
It is 4 Nations(US,German,UK,Japan)
royaletiger 3 years ago
What is the name of the song?
lDontTube 3 years ago
back ground music of game
royaletiger 3 years ago
I can't download it :( whenever i get to 50% it says that i can install it but when i click install nothing happens
SmartGuy564 3 years ago
make sure u have computer adminastrator
scoper156 3 years ago
how do u get more ships in the new one i what to know just got it
joequangbui007 3 years ago
oh, this is old navyfield. the new one is wayyyy different.
Spartanizzo 3 years ago
what soft war are u useing
wwwTFwww 3 years ago
26 for ddx
yoFACE03 3 years ago
where is the Nebraska?
NRCDOBE 3 years ago
Hey um wat lv u hav to be to get ddx project?
Abkai 3 years ago
woah wat's the biggest battleship?
and wat is the biggest carrier? also wich is bettr battle ship or carrier i think bb my bro think carrier
Abkai 3 years ago
the biggest ships are yamato and bismark i think the biggest aircraft carrier is the washigton class which is still being built and plus i think aircraft carrier is good because it has guns and can load aircraft [duh] but a bb has more fire power
loliamapie 3 years ago
the yamato-class was the biggest with 9 480mm-guns...
horten229pilot 2 years ago 2
cool! what game is this?
grooveclubhouse 3 years ago
i think there was 1 more. it was when u have to decide between somers, gearing and one mroe thats right on top
jonypoo2 3 years ago
APAs, dont bother with them
dienkonig33 3 years ago
South dakota? New Mexico? York town?? Lexington?
GhostRogue 3 years ago
oh yeah and at what lvl do i get DD ddx project ?
Casperorilion 3 years ago
level 26
aow4321 3 years ago
Can i get all the ships that the captain shows there ? cuz i didn`t got DD Somer and im lvl 23 and have fletcher did skip it or something like that ?
Casperorilion 3 years ago
hey too much money???? give me some!!!!!! goeypoey2 NFNA arizona
blindsniper79 3 years ago
American harbour music is the best lol.
Norky100 3 years ago
I suck at this game. Even though I got a Brooklyn
Warcrafter50 3 years ago
Im loving that Iowa, got myself one recently =D, its always been my favorite BattleShip.
aow4321 3 years ago
need to be updataed with midway and nevraska
nicksf1 3 years ago
its Nebraska, I dont remember Nevraska being a state =p
aow4321 3 years ago
Woah is it christmas already?!?!?!
jakethescenester 3 years ago
Most happy song among all the shipyard xD
Demonlogist 3 years ago
what is the game?¿ please
sk8deplasencia 3 years ago
I am a Navy veteran (USS America) in South Carolina that was let go from my job after 16 yrs. I am a 45 yr. old white male & American Legion member. I am a hard worker & I don't believe in sitting on my rear collecting a check. If anyone can aid in my quest, I would be greatful. I am looking in the following counties: Aiken, Edgefield, Greenwood, Lexington, Newberry & Saluda. Either reply or call 864-554-0517 or 864-445-8545. Any assistance is appreciated. Thanks.
mkl62 3 years ago
can u do Hamburg next?
Bahi2025 3 years ago
i got a blatimore
=D
Hardagate 3 years ago
You forgot South Dakota, Portland and Sevastopol ; )
RedHotAdoration 3 years ago 2
Damn it!! those ships are not a game. They defeated the axis!But, you kids have no idea!It's all a game to you!A ship is alive.
chengloki 3 years ago
Are you retarded?
billyboyjennings 3 years ago 2
we know that cheng, but now were in the 21st century, most of those ships have been sunk or scrapped. They live on in games like this, and people who wanted to command these ships will never have a chance in real, but in the game its different.
aow4321 3 years ago
thats some crazy cannon set up for amiricans i never got passed the flecture to busy working on brits, o and they have alot of aa cannons they can put on those things.
dudemans42 3 years ago
your ship lists are obviously out of date and a little incomplete. If I have your information, I would like to do my own, more comeplete version of such a list.
halobunny3point5 3 years ago
ummmmm ya you forgot the Omaha
diedofstupidity 3 years ago
That's event ship which's not on the ship line, also PBB
Should be not out that time
Demonlogist 3 years ago
dont forget south-dakota
movierateking 4 years ago
Great job, thx for upload. I can't wait to get the Yorktown for my USN CV line.
straswa 4 years ago
what server? ip?
eduard0renat0 4 years ago
JUST BUY PREM AND GET H44!!!
Larsware 4 years ago
ok can you help with the ENFUNS Updater please it says that i need it to play the game but i can't find it anywhere please help
gherry8 4 years ago
its free the whole time? how to run it i run the program and get the EULA screen....but my pointer...cursor is not there i cant do anything...HOW TO RUN AND PLAY
insomniac7771 4 years ago
actually im like lvl 33 and my sailors are stilling gettin same xp as before i was lvl 30
saintkilla 4 years ago
ima get iowa...mainly cuz i'm from iowa xD
LoSeRLuCk1 4 years ago
w00t 4 iowa
darkmarauder101 4 years ago
is this game for free , or is it untill we reach lvl 30 ? because i played this game before but when the new law came... i couldn´t play ..
goljat7777 4 years ago
lvl 30 u only gain 60% of your xp so it's harder to get higher i am lvl 26 so i am gonna have that affect soon :(
Spartanz1170 4 years ago
thats my ship!
the alaska!!!!!!!!!!
conam951 4 years ago
i like the music 5*
lordofweed777 4 years ago
i hated the gearing compared to the fletcher the gearing was a slow as hell moving target
Spartanz1170 4 years ago
this is retarded no one cares bout the boats we want to see the gameplay jeese
Sepultura19 4 years ago
lol Agentbromsnor you had your headphones or speakers on to loud turn them down if they are hurting you
steamer28 4 years ago
That music is hurting my ears :(
Agentbromsnor 4 years ago
i want some credits
firelols 4 years ago
Well id sucker punch someone if they came into my house to tell me they were gonna hit me :) kinda ..
not commenting anything about the larger picture of rights and wrongs with the war itself.. just saying ..
tulbowin 4 years ago
The tiny ships were funny!
balphagor 4 years ago
dude you are rich, can i have some creds:P
redeagle211 4 years ago
Why do you have to hate on the Omaha?
Taospark 4 years ago
hey where the South Dakota Class Battleship?
px002 4 years ago
he didn't take the Alaska route
mierzhen 4 years ago
I still dont get it.. I thought Lexington had wood-like colour on the flight deck.. it got repainted at war or something?
W4lt3r89 4 years ago
its fucking hard to shoot if you have an destroyer
thedevilswish 4 years ago
I only just got this game i still n00b!!!! i only have a destroyer and friget... lol
And still learnign some things boaut controls and stuff... daman anoying trying to get in range of them battle ships and stuff.
HeeroYuy911 4 years ago
hehe working my way to montana :P at guam now ........... ahhh yes the BC guam a good ship but no range in it's 12" guns :P
Willey01 4 years ago
I can get you a Harbor shot o the Tenn41, as well as a better one of the Montana
will107 4 years ago
Alaska is BC not BB :P
kirka69 4 years ago
actually its a CB(large cruiser) the only of its kind besides the USS Guam.
aow4321 4 years ago
cyclops and another thing is why the fuck do we always gwt pwned when we use navy??? awnser: we have damn small ships the japanize haw huge freakin ships with armord EVERYTHING
alex2974 5 years ago
not true America had small/fast hard to hit ships while having smaller, yet stronger, higher velocity guns. Also most US ships were modern and made within 10 years of the war while Japans was made mostly in the 1910-20s. And if the Japanese navy was so much better...how come they lost.
aow4321 4 years ago
one reason why jap lost is because there leadership simply was too reluctant to deploy their major ships (Yamato's Nagato's)hoping for a decisive battle fleet engagement that never came. Also the U.S churned out 10 BB's 24 big C.V's around 100 more CVL and CVE's compared to 2 huge BB's(Yamato class)and aroung 20-30 C.V's of all sizes. There was no compitition it was absolutely onesided by numbers alone.
GrandMasterYodda 4 years ago
a lot more than 10 bbs for the US, id say about 20-35, and the japs had around 10-15 bbs and the Us only had around 10-15 fleet carriers.
aow4321 4 years ago
There is another factor you have missed. Japan attacked before the decloration of war was presented. In other words, they sucker punched us. What can piss us off more???=Stefan=
chengloki 4 years ago
I slept on the USS LEXINGTON at corpus christi
CF17 5 years ago