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  • "...foreign attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford ... to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak (Israel) towards a great and powerful nation (USA) dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter" George Wahsigton, "Beware of Foreign Entanglements" 1776

  • Bang on. On the streets it translate to don't fuck with us and we won't fuck with you

  • Israel can win any war that it get their self in and they are a strong country and can kick iran ass bad . And Isreal want alot of land and they need to fight for it if they want it but the world would have Isreal Back and booms will be coming from all over the world and will hit Iran That how we fight now far a way and just aim.

  • al queda does a pretty mean drum solo

  • "the problem is we don't understand what we are fighting"... perhaps there is nothing to fight, there is only an imaginary evil in your mind.

    the world needs logic solutions, war is not one, CIA try once to make calculation considering all the factors, and not just for a fail profit for the USA.

  • We will return to a time wen a jew is that thing that cleans the house,mows the lawn,gives u a blowjob, wipes ur ass after a taco night. The great old days

  • Im really gonna enjoy watching jews gettin fuckd...not too long now

  • Garbage.....there is no AlQaeda.

    AlCIAda.

  • WHAT? What does supporting a free democratic nation have to do with 9/11? Islamic extremist are insane. As Americans who love freedom and the right to live in peace, i dont see how Israel has done anything.

  • @stomperfood you're being naive. this guys the lead man in charge in the bin laden unit for many years and a CIA analyst. bin laden declared war against the USA in 1997. He stated then in an interview short after with CNN that the reason is for america's support of ISrael. Do you really think people are going to kill themselves because americans are going to the beach and voting. Al Qaeda wants to overthrow many dictatorships in the area. Like most countries in the world, israel isnt peaceful

  • @stomperfood

    "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine"

    "Righteous Victims"

    "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"

  • Bush loved trouble

  • i love how obama did what bush couldnt!

  • @TreeBearOne lol

    

  • Mr Scheuer for President

  • @calmingspeed Ron Paul for president, Michael Scheuer for head of CIA.

  • Is this guy gonna run 4 president or what

  • One American that gets it.

  • wow, there goes an unpatriotic anti-Semite if I ever saw one...

  • This guy is whacked, war monger.

  • Q - How do you stop a muslim from drowning?

    A - You take your foot off his neck.

  • FIGHTFANNERD3 FUCK YOU NOT ISLAM! ISLAM WILL RULE!

  • Shove this in your pipe and smoke it you truther whacks!!! You people need to listen to and understand this fellow he is extremely intelligent and has done and been involved in the work no Truther wants to acknowledge or understand. 911 has NOTHING to do with your freedom as Bush loved to shove down your throat. It has to do with USA policies in the middle east. As long as that stays the same you will see more of Bin Laden and his ilk. Get that thru your conspiracy heads!!

  • this guy has guts. that a fine american citizen right there.

  • I think I figured out this fat little woodchuck's act: he gets off on being contrarian and saying things that get both the left and right riled up.

    Much of what he says is outdated hogwash from the time he was in govt.

  • @RuflessRecords I am sure you put a lot of thought into that statement.

  • Michael Scheuer says plainly "The US government supports Fascism and Tyranny in the middle east"

    1-29-11

    watch?v=UBbeY1_0VIY

  • Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

  • The stark truth is that without Bin Laden doing what he did.... the impact of US foreign policy would not have been exposed as much as it is now.

    US is a bully and it will get its spanking.

  • Michael Scheuer = never loses.

  • you idiots do realise he does not like muslims right ?

  • @FIGHTFANNERD3 After what they did, neither do I...

  • A nation built and conceived on terrorism, deserves terrorism on their doorstep.

  • Every interview with this guy, I agree with him 100%. He's been to many of the countries he speaks about, he's studied their cultures, he understands WHY the US is resented in these cultures, and he worked for the CIA (which is a pretty informed organization..i guess). He knows exactly what the fuck he's talking about. He clearly outranks everyone who debates with him, and he always wins simply because what he is saying is correct.

  • this guy says "sir" a lot

  • such a pussy reporter....every day I am more surprised about the level of stupidity on the us.

  • Hmm..they'll probably turn against their own govts, saudi, egypt etc true, this guy's opinion is pure gold. if he was the head of the Obl unit he deserved it (cos he had more understanding than the rest of America) .

    But his solution to the whole issue is for US to get out..highly unlikley. Not while Israel's got America by its balls. And he zeroed in on that too. Stop giving into Israel's demands and alQ will shrink away.

  • Muslims attack America because Americans are infidels. It is guys like this (head of the CIA!) who went to the middle east, messed things up, didn't solve anything, didn't do their job in finding Bin Laden, in fact supported Bin Laden and Al Qaueda at one time (during the Cold War, they gave Al Qaueda weapons, and training which were then used agains't America) and now he has the bolls to say these things?

  • that black-bearded bin Laden is FAKE!!

  • one of the few truth tellers still given a voice by the totalitarian media establishment.

  • 9/11

    media

    AIPAC

    the fed

  • This guy is awesome...i loved his logic ever since I first saw him on Bill Maher. Only if more Americans were like him.....and why do I think he is credible? Because he worked in the CIA, he knows what he's talking about.

  • It isn't Arabs who have hijacked my government - it is jews.

    It isn't Arabs who have hijacked the American legal system and now are transforming it to conform to Talmudic law - it is jews.

    It isn't Arabs who own and run the Federal Reserve Bank, which is in the process of destroying the dollar and the American economy - it is jews.

    It isn't Arabs rigging the US stock market and commodities futures markets - it is jews.

  • @MrJEWWATCH great point check out: The War Party- Neo-con

  • ah what roles you play.. pawns in a game of death

  • @bigworldaloha

    wow! you call him anti-semetic for saying we should stop supporting israel?

  • Israel would win any war no matter who surounds them ! either we choose to side with the winner or the loser and go to hell after.

  • @bigworldaloha That's a blatant lie. His criticism of Israel is and has always been of it's actions as a nation-state, NOT the composition of it's population and there isn't a shred of evidence to support his alleged "antisemitism".

  • So are many of you saying we should sacrifice 6 million jews to the muslims for peace???????

  • @rickcappetto Who says it would be a sacrifice? They have the strongest, most motivated, and best equipped military in the middle east. We ought to know, we paid for it. If anything, our diplomatic meddling has gotten in the way of them crushing their enemies and our unqualified support for Israel buys us nothing, with the exception of slight weapons development, which hardly justifies the level of support we provide them.

  • Kudos to Michael Scheuer. He's telling it like it is.

    I wish Americans would wake up and realize that 9/11 did not happen because of who we are, because they hate our freedoms, because we don't conform to their beliefs, etc.

    It's pretty obvious that they only want this to be the truth.

    9/11 happened because we were over on their land, and supporting Israel.

    The whole world thinks we're all a bunch of stupid people. Something tells me they might be right.

  • Absolutely. Those whom condemn his view on the scale of the mistakes made that was overlooked leading to the 9/11 attacks are ignorant. Many of the troops under the fomer Leaders were in Afghanistan, & Israel (Cild War, & Gulf War), killing the Enemies while at the same time killing innocent Civillians, & destroying their Buildings. The real hatred & threat they had started in the middle 1980's when AQ was formed, & grew worse in the early 1990's. May we learn from our past deeds!
  • thats bs dude, he condemns zionism many times chek out his vids, he is nuetral when it comes to israel and Islam

    hes a pure patriot who believes that USA should nto be a puppet of israel and its wars

  • Anyone pushing the idea that Osama bin Laden is responsible for 9/11 is a Zionist trying to divert attention from the evidence that Israel...in cahoots with American traitors... was responsible for the attack on the World Trade Center. Yes, I say Scheurer is a frontman.

    Investigate 9/11 now! Catch the real murderers!

  • We are on the same page but your misinformed

    Osama bin ladin foguth the soviets, had plenty of wealth over 20 billions thus was able to form a group such as Al-Qaida

    The Group is a small group but muslims world wide many whom i know sympathize for this group because of usa oppression of Muslims

    Bin Ladin is very real hes not imaginary or a puppet the way u and other conspiracy guys think.

  • They HAte USA because of 67 years of USA supporting ISrael killing of Muslims, USA support of evil governments from saudi, egypt, pakistan etc, this is a liberation movement for the Muslim people, and USA stands in the way out of sheer greed for our oil

    learn mroe about michael scheurer

  • Wow.. Ive recently found this guy and he really speaks the truth.. no bullshit. Id love to learn more.

  • @TruthbHeard Amen brother, AMEN , I wish we would stop doing that.

  • they hate americans because of your women in workplace

  • Neocon Michael Ledeen echoed Scheuer from the past when he wrote in 1999 that it would be LUCKY and PROVIDENTIAL if America were hit by a bloodbath "like Pearl Harbor".

    Ledeen's buddies at PNAC -- the future Bush cabinet -- explained in 2000 that an attack on America was necessary to advance their VITAL goals for US global hegemony, starting multiple simultaneous wars. They lobbied to destroy Iraq since 1996.

  • you don't understand or intentionally misunderstand scheuer.

    he said that as an answer to the question to what he thinks would have to happen so that US politicians start to be honest about the threat, and he thinks it can only happen from the ground up if americans demand it because of a new attack.

  • @ myrelative,

    So do you also agree with National Security Consultant Michael Ledeen that the first Pearl Harbor and the more recent hoped-for Pearl Habor event were both "lucky" and a blessing from God?

    Lucky events to rouse us out of our doldrums?

    Personally, I think that's ugly, amoral, reprehensible, traitorous, and also criminally suspicious, for someone to wish for their own country to be attacked and their fellow citizens to face destruction and terror.

    Maybe you disagree on that?

  • scheuer never said it was a blessing. he was making a prediction of what would need to happen.

    we also know that those people who are closest to a crisis panic, and think it's the most important thing ever. see financial crisis.

    this is certainly true for scheuer, but he was just expressing his opinion, not wishing for anything.

  • by the way, I don't have any problem with what Scheuer says here, myrelative, about the fact that Muslims are inflamed at their own corrupt dictators, which the US supports.

    Also Israel, which bombs and kills civilians with such wild abandon even some Holocaust survivors and their offspring are appalled and have voiced public condemnation.

    If you want to own some Al-Qaeda tapes, they can be purchased from Intelcenter, a video company in Virginia near Langley, home of CIA.

  • That fucking khazarian skunk would rather see Americans die, than a black president succeeds. He is a FUCKING TRAITOR!!!

  • "succeed" at what?? SOCIALISM????

  • yes raising the tax for the rich like two percent is so socialist, the rich had to pay more in taxes under Reagan Jackass, why don't you call him a socialist? and by the by, if i had to choose between a socialist and a person that wants the mass slaughter of his own countrymen women and children, just to prove a point no less, i'll go with the socialist any day. peace!

  • so the fact that Michael Scheuer advocates for the cutting off of support for Israel doesn't earn any points in his favour in your book?

  • @spotball7

    when we US Americans say that 'we're dumb people' we point to you,,, and be spot on.

    Thanks Whitey.

  • This is one American who loves his country more than israel..

    damn americans still don't understand that 9/11 happened not bcoz some people living in caves hated their freedom, but coz of their unconditional support to israel..

  • nilo723: "This is one American who loves his country more than israel."

    Check this out and see if you still think the same way about this neo-con traitor:

    watch?v=_HtSb7kwTFE

  • u should first go check out the whole video before making any assumptions dude..

    Damn! American's are so stupid to believe in anything..

  • among other things.. supporting Saudi Arabia, sanctions on Iraqi people, imperialism/militarism for starters.

  • @nilo723 its not even so much support as the fact that our entire defense department and homeland security department is basically just run by a bunch of dual citizens of israel, with dual loyalty which you could argue is just pure loyalty to israel, and most of which had parents from israel, came from israel themselves or still have not only relatives but siblings living in israel..You wont regreat watching "The War Party- Neo-con agenda"

  • @hailtotheking324 Save your country before they destroy its economy with all these wars..

    Ron Paul offers solutions, Obama's hands are tied up too..McCain & Hillary are their puppies..

  • @nilo723 it is almost impossible..we have dual israeli citizens making laws and making policy for their zionist world conquest..they have AIPAC which is a lobby like no other lobby that any other country has..they have the anti-defamation league so if you called them out on their obvious zionist agenda you get labeled a "anti-semite"..

  • @hailtotheking324 They can't do anything if the majority supports Ron Paul..

    Well, maybe they would kill him too..

  • @nilo723 fuck islam

  • @FIGHTFANNERD3 Go ahead..But i'm not sure if you would be able to do that..

  • Refreshing that SOMEONE understands that WE NEED TO PROTECT AMERICA!!!! Our interests seem to come secondary to defending other countries' interests.

  • this guy really contradicts himself. he claims we had all the intelligence in the world, but no one knew 9/11 was coming.

    hard to believe

  • He does NOT contradict himself, not even a bit.

    What you don't understand, is that the CIA had all the information and intel, BUT, the DCI and other Brass in the CIA kept asking for more reliable intel , thinking they had more time....THEY DID NOT.

    He argues in his book, that this is a cold-war mentality and the CIA brass still use the nation-state ideology when they are not facing a nation-state threat, but an organization ironically, located in America's best allied countries ie. Egypt etc

  • Scheuer's position was guess where?

    The Bin Laden desk at CIA.

  • Michael Scheuer great American! yeah right. This overfed punk needs to be locked up. As long is this dolt is given a chance to spout, I am glad it's on the corporate news channel. We could have spent our funds building America instead of pipelines for Halliburton through Pakistan and Northern Iraq.

  • Michael Scheuer was against the Iraq war, so I don't understand your argument - are seem to not understand Scheuer's position. Michael Scheuer has been accused of only caring about America and nobody else - he's completely "America first, second, and third" as term goes by Buchanan.

  • Don't forget that Clinton was probably relying on the advice of CIA boss George Tenet, whose puppet master is former U.S. Senator David Boren. See my video response.

  • Obama please take Michael Scheuer as your intelligence advisor. But wait, if he does that he will lose all the Jewish support and the media will start pounding hard on him ...

  • Not while Rahm Emmanuel is chief of staff.

  • muslims?

    or whoever hes controlling

  • Bin Laden died a long time ago, wake up sheep, you can't possibly be this stupid.

  • "Bin Laden died a long time ago, wake up sheep, you can't possibly be this stupid. "

    Hi, i stumbled upon ypur comment just now and i wonder.

    What makes you so sure? sure he might be dead however you seem to be so sure of it. Please elaborate. Cheers

  • oh yes they can, and are that stupid

  • michael scheur = Hero. Honest good man. Even though he is ex-CIA I still like him.

  • "Americans should not have to listen to their enemy to understand what this war is about, and yet that's what is happening."

  • ron paul is a moron....

    it's easy to insult. Hard to prove.

    Did you not listen to what Michael Scheuer just said? This is the most truth you'll get from any former CIA member.

    You don't think there is any truth in what he says?

    Ron Paul agrees with Scheuer. That makes him a moron. Was it Hannity, Schnitt, Mark Levin, or some other waterdown conservative republican talk show propagandist that makes you think this? Or do you wholeheartedly belive mass media?

  • Believe this Bin Laden bullshit and you'll believe ANYTHING!

    Just be prepared for your OWN government to attack you and kill a lot of you and blame it on Iran in 2009.

  • way to go Michael

  • Stupid Fox News. Where does Shepherd Smith get off lobbing polemical, leading questions at Scheuer like he's some guy on the lunatic fringe? The man was in the CIA for 22 years and all he did was follow Muslim radicalism! Fair and balanced? Man, that makes me mad, that patronizing tone of Fox News anchors (and MSNBC anchors too).

  • but it was funny to watch Scheuer make him sweat and look bias'd.

  • That's true.

  • theres a lot of people mad at the tv set right now

    "they can be mad"

    LOL

  • Mr. Michael Scheuer is a very wise individual and clearly the reporter is a real fucking prick who already starts off in an asshole matter his books are very powerful and will open up many American's minds in the war of terror Bin Laden mentioned his book because Mr. Michael Scheuer explains in his first book the point of view of Bin Laden

  • Firstly, the commentator is a real douche bag.

    MS is the true professional.

    Clinton did not kill OBL because he was not given permission to kill OBL.

    Clinton is not allowed to make a decision about killing OBL. Such a decision originates, would have to originate, at a much high level.

    Georde W, and his ilk,  needed OBL around so that they could pull off 911.

    OBL is dead now!! But did you read about in the news?

    Obviously not!!

  • Warrencurrier, OBL is dead. Can you provide evidence for that claim?

  • katydig said it best. M Scheuer is probably better positioned than most of us to know about the Bohemian Grove crowd. The fact that he bites his tongue speaks volumes..when you think about it. So if you want to discuss the CFR, you might want to find a mask for your IP addy, and get a scrambler for your cell. That is..until they take over completely. Then it really won't make any difference...

  • america wake up, binladin dosent hate us, he hates the bombs we drop on muslim children, sanctions that kill muslim children, and he hates our corrupt policies!

  • This is a real problem. I don't think americans realize the danger of these people. Even after 9/11. I believe america is not perfect but it's not evil either. Something has to be done with these people. I think it should start with the american policy and then their own people. Killing yourself is forbidden in islamic law and people from that part of the world should take a stand against these acts of violence.

  • ????????

  • Killing anyone is forbidden by Islamic law.

    And there are millions of muslims who do take a stand against these acts of violence (most of which are perpetrated upon muslims). But you will never hear that on American TV because you are supposed to hate Islam and blame them for terrorism.

  • So if it's forbidden why do they keep killing all of those people as well as themselves. Where are the muslims creating massive protests? Similiar to the ones here in the states against the Iraq War. Where are they? I don't hate Islam. It's a peaceful religion. People like Bin Laden have used it as an excuse to do what they do. To them it's what god wants them to do. Noone hates Islam you moron. It's the radical views of people like Bin Laden and his followers.

  • "Where are the muslims creating massive protests?" REALLY? Really? How bout Palestine, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Qatar, Jordan, and the United States for starters. You just don't see the muslims who condemn terrorism, because you are supposed to think muslims are terrorists. Obviously in your case the propaganda has worked flawlessly. Muslims were the first real victims of terrorism (unless you count native Americans).

  • Are there any videos of them holding these protests? If they are good for them. I don't think Muslims are terrorists. Noone in the states has ever said that. Not even Bush. "Muslims were the first real victims of terrorism". When? I don't see Jews or Christians killing themselves to prove a point?

  • Terrorism is not limited to suicide bombings. It is the use of violence or the threat of violence to affect the actions of a populace. Most often the goal is to make people afraid, so that stricter security measures will be put in place and people will trade freedom for security. So no. I don't see christians or jews killing 'themselves' for their cause. But I have certainly seen christians and jews killing muslims.

  • Where are the videos I asked for? Are you trying to justify the killing of innocent people as well? Something alot of these terrorists do as well.

  • @AmericasFan, for every insurgent killed, 50 civilians die, therefore the U.S. has killed far more civilians than terrorists ever will. How do you justify that? Collateral damage? Would that term put grieving families at ease? Plus, if you want to see how Muslims were the first victims of terrorism, just study up on the attrocities committed by Israel against Palestinians for the past 60 plus years(schoolhouse massacre, demolition of houses/schools, etc.).

  • I don't think it helps when insurgents hide behind the civilians and blow up school buses of children. Suicide bombings in crowded marketplaces, school bus bombings, human shields, aren't typically in the American soldier's repertoire. As for the whole Israel/Palestinian situation, its a two-faced coin. Palestinians have also committed atrocities. I'm not unsympathetic to the palestinians, but when Israel is fighting to survive, (7 day war, etc...) They are gonna be a bit excessive.

  • @bigreddawg91, I'm not condoning terrorist acts, I'm just stating the fact that far more innocent Muslims have been killed than Americans, Israelis, etc.

    I have no problem with the existence of Israel, but I don't understand the unequivocal support America gives Israel. They are the biggest recipient of U.S. foreign aid, even throughout Israel's expansion of illegal settlements. There are reasons Al-Qaeda hates America, and to ignore those reasons/blame it on religion won't solve anything.

  • I honestly don't think you have the right idea. Of course there have been more local casualties than americans and israelis. thats because insurgents, no matter where they are, tend to bomb marketplaces, school busses, etc. There are numerous examples in which they attack their own people. America supports Israel becasue, lets face it, they've been getting the shaft since day one. We don't blame religion, however Al-queda seems to butcher islam and use it to get what they want. Sad fact of life

  • No, we don't kill ourselves. We use weapons of mass destruction to prove a point. Say it isn't so.

    We are the aggressors here. We are in THEIR land. If China's military rolled down our streets telling us that they are here for "our protection," you would see mass riots and an insurgency among Americans. They have everyright to fight our troops, which sucks, because our troops deserve not 2 be used so frivolously.

    Want to protect americans? defend our borders and stop policing the world.

  • "VOICE OF EVIL" LOOOOOOL

    Americans are living in a comic book

  • this guy just knows what the REAL problem is and isnt afraid to say it.

    i remember thinking who the fuck is this bin laden nutcase and after doing some research i.e. listening to his tapes and reading his "declaration of war" (fatwa), his motivation was as obvious as can be: us' support of israel. he just went on and on about it.

    its fucking simple: get out of israel and islam wont give a fuck about the US, just like they dont give a fuck about say europe or russia, who dont support it.

  • I wouldn't necessarily go that far, as to say they don't feel the same way towards Europe - there was the subway bombing in London in 2005. Though the ones responsible for that say it was because of Britain's involvement with the war in the middle east.

    But yeah, Islamic terrorist attacks have only been happening in America though since the early 90s - after we established bases on the Saudi peninsula after the Gulf War.

    Crazy - as recently as the 80s we were financing Bin Laden in Afghanistan.

  • exactly, attacks in spain and britain both happened shortly after they allied with the US.

    just read binny boy's declaration of war/fatwa, it only talks about the US.

    saudis also opted for the US to defend their border near kuwait when saddam invaded it, even though bin laden proposed them to do the same with the "army" he (and the US...)organized in afghanistan (vs russians). so my guess is that not only bin laden's hatred is political, but personal :)

  • I didn't feel mad when he said America is marching to the drum of Al Qeida - I was intrigued and prompted to listen further. His explanation was right on and he has the authority to make such statements - he has the inside scoop. One thing I disagree with him on is, our criminal government is not clueless and stupid, it's evil and doing this on purpose. It's trying to destroy America and establish a one-world goverment to enslave the whole world. Search on "Aaron Russo & Nick Rockefeller".

  • Well you should get with the program and be mad about someone being truthful like Fox tells you to. You keep this up and Sean Hannity wont call you a great American.

  • it says voice of evil. I never thought those suggestive captions were effective in shaping the opinions of those who watch the show, guess I was wrong.

  • my bad, my tongue slipped in a matter of speaking. I was being sarcastic about Fox news tactics anyways.

  • alright my bad

  • Ha! You're funny. So dead on in your observation.

  • Learn the truth about Osama Bin Laden, 9/11, terrorism, and the interconnection between the Globalist corporations, the Government and the Mainstream media and more at

    infowars

  • You don't see radical racist or religious groups in this country going abroad killing members of other nations. Why is it that only the Middle East do you see suicide bombing on this scale when our CIA and our federal government sponsors terrorist acts and puppet governments violating peoples rights to exist. Its only common sense. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together. Our leaders pretend they don't know the real retaliation motive in order to mask the dark with good intention.

  • well...is because americans don´t have to live under dictatorship, they don´t get tortured and yes they dont have foreign troops in there country. American troops in Saudi arabia and it´s support for Israel is the reason for 9/11.

  • Tell me about it, truth staring people right in the face but you'll never hear this perspective often in the MSM, not even on the "liberal" CNN. Our news is stacked against us.

  • Michael Scheuer is my hero.

  • Only a FoxNews viewer could get "mad at their TV set".

  • LOL true

  • SCHEUER IS BIN LANDEN'S HANDLER. TO THIS DAY HE HELPS SCRIPT BIN LADEN'S "SURPRISE" MONOLOGUES THAT ARE "BROADCASTED" BY CNN AND FOX. WAKE THE FUCK UP. SCHEUER KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT BIN LADEN BECAUSE THEY WORK HAND IN GLOVE. REAGANITE REPUBLICANS STAND BEHIND OBL AND IRAN-CONTRA, THE SAME GANGS IN POWER 2DAY

    The CIA will help prop up Muqtadar al-Sadr to power. Khomeini, Al-Sadr, the Iranian mullahs and the Israels and Palestinians are all CIA/NWO puppets. the "zionists" expose is a CIA front.

  • Bobby787 are you that misguided listen this man worked for the CIA for 22 years HE KNOWS WAY MORE Than you

    OBL bankrupted the Soviets now he is banlrupting the USA

  • It's a bit of an exaggeration to say that Bin Laden "bankrupted the Soviets" all by himself. He was a minor player during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, although he did benefit from Soviet withdrawal. The Soviets were defeated through the joint efforts of the United States, the Saudis, and the Pakistanis.

    Bin Laden has done some shitty things, but let's not make him out to be more powerful than he actually is.

  • Re-read my original post. The issue is Scheuer's ridiculous assertion that they (Muslims) do not hate us for our freedoms.

    1. Muslim fundamentalists ARE a collective.

    2. More than a few Muslims believe Islam commands them to wage war on 'unbelievers', even today.

    3. Muslim fundamentalists ARE intolerant of other religions.

    4. Poor people eat pork, too.

    5. It implies that Western involvement in the ME is NOT the sole reason for their attitude.

    You seem to have trouble staying on point.

  • Classifying all muslim fundamentalists in a group and pretending that they all hate us and want to attack us is like saying all christians fundamentalists hate gays. It just isnt true. You're using stereotypes. Of course there isnt a sole reason for us being attacked, but there are many variables, the largest of which is our foreign policy. They are still individuals who, each of whom fight for different reasons. This is why you should not represent them as a single collective.

  • I will tell you straight. I liked my 4 years in the u.s. and , in spite of all the dickhead Christians that you meet , it is a nice country. But , all it would take to change my mind is an Isreali f 16 rocketing my neighbours house and slaughtering his children. Even the one who plays reggae at 2 a.m.

  • Dickhead Christians? Are you implying that all Christians are dickhead or just the ones that self-righteous ones that judge all that they see different? Doesn't the UK even have douche bags like that?

  • we have plenty of douche bags , just not so many religious nutters. and no , not all christians are dickheads. some of them are lovely , but a lot of the redneck ones are pretty dumb

  • Evangelicals (cough cough)

    Jerry Falwell (cough cough)

    Pastor John Hagee (cough cough)

    Reverend Rod Parsley (cough cough)

  • These people can't stay on point Bobby. Ask liberals a question with a yes or no option and you'll get a sentence starting with "Well...".

  • marathon1974 that is because some issues are complex. fox news viewers are usually satisfied with the kind of "they are just bad people who hate freedom" simpleton rubbish that george w has to churn out for the rednecks

  • Their hating of our values is not why they attack. They state it VERY clearly that it's because of our support for these tyrannical states. That this has been well documented and repeated by the CIA, the 9/11 commission report, the former Bin Laden unit lead (Scheuer), and Bin Laden himself and the majority of this country to still believe it's "cuz we're free" is absolutely beyond me. I can't fathom how such an ignorant society even functions with that slug-headedness.

  • Islamists hate us for many reasons; and despite what Scheuer would have the rest of us believe, that includes the freedoms our man-made laws grant.

    Qutb was an expert on Islam, and I found his writings enlightening.

  • Your right they also hate us because we don't follow there beliefs. But foreign policy is the main reason. Bin Laden gave those as the reasons for attacking. If they did attack us for our liberties then why didn't they attack Canada, Britain ,and France?

  • overkill0lethal, How 'bout, Canada, Britain, and France aren't helping to prop up governments in Egypt, S. Arabia, and other Muslim countries the radical Islamists would like to take over. If you cause the US to withdraw their support from these countries, they become easier to topple. Once you do that in enough places, after awhile, you can focus, seriously, on pursuing the jihad in the House of War, or, in non-Muslim lands. Is it that complicated that you guys can't put everything together?

  • I love how Shepherd immediately went, "Marching to the drum beat of Al Qaeda? A lot of people are mad at the TV right now." He knows their audience... a bunch of ignorant Neo-Cons who think America can only do the right thing.

  • What are your credentials? What qualifies you to be an expert on islam? What is it that makes you more of an expert on this subject than the man who is considered by many to be the worlds foremost expert on Binladen and the taliban and who was the head of the CIA task force pursuing Binladen? Everything that you have just said was said out of ignorance and your own personal bias. I know a great deal about islam and I feel like your statement is completely misrepresntative.

  • "I feel like your statement is completely misrepresntative."

    Which one, and how.

  • It is misrepresentative for several reasons. These are just a few.

    1. It describes all islamic fundamentalists as a collective. They clearly disagree on a lot of things as three dvisions of them have been tring to kill one another over disagreements.

    2. While a few of our enemies are islamic fundamentalists who believe that their religion tells them to kill us, many of our enemies are our enemies because of our failed foreign policy which makes more enemies then it gets rid of. Cont.