SC2 Zerg Strategy - How To Play Zerg in Team Games - Starcraft 2 Tutorial

[MEHHAPPIFACE]

can an ally build on friendly creep? (ive yet to purchase the game so i have no experience besides some starcraft 1 a loong time ago)

[thisisdaniell]

I watched this in 2012 :P

[brenden300]

wish i had money to buy this gam =(

[oliverus007]

were are mah and urz banelingz?!

[kezark510]

I dont agree with ur tactics, i do it whole diffrent way, and i play zerg. basicly scout them and counter whatever they are doing, ur ultraliskes would be pretty useless to banshees and voidrays.

[DumplinSawce]

... hydras... huge dps v air...

[Cbmartin14]

Reeeaally helpful!!

[smaniii1]

I'll play toss if you play 2v2 with me

[LegogunsDC]

i agree with power8999999

because i suck

[power899999]

i do not know how to play zerg at all , how is the easyest way to play it if you are new to it

[DumplinSawce]

@power899999 macro

[CovertKaos]

i cant win in a team game unless i rush >_>

[619studios]

me and my friend play 2v2. im zerg and hes toss. what would be a good strategy against toss/terran teams?

[CovertKaos]

I play zerg in 3v3 and seem to do the best? i rush and finish most games before my team does anything...they seem to be pretty useless...

[Stormzyz1998]

@CovertKaos Yer zerglings are a great SCV/Probe/Drone counter because they get the surround and the workers are like, "Oh shit."

[Amaroq64]

I think I will definitely take this video into account if I can get my friend to do team gamess with me again. The strategical(?) implications for how to make a good zerg and terran team are zipping through my head. Maybe early speedling aggression until my Terran buddy has strengthened.

[jaredglasgow3]

hey i use this alot in 4v4s and it works great i just wanna ask about 2v2s, my partners a terran what do u segest for his build to b to work well with this

[LHGH4x0r]

Just subbed. <3 zerg :)

[JumboMuffin286]

liked favourited subscribed

[klickkzam]

what happen to zerg units that parasite the building and a load of infested terrain come out of the barracks

[TheRyong20]

Can you make a guide on how to defend against protoss jerks that wall your ramp? Cause yesterday playin zerg and tried to attempt a harass but got raped by zealots and photon canons...he got 2 min headstart

-.-

[klickkzam]

@TheRyong20 Don't use the word rape, it will tip us that you are a Rapist!!!!

[TheRyong20]

@klickkzam lol true true =P

[rendros88]

@TheRyong20 Wall off your ramp? As in with pylons? Easy! /watch?v=M9CA9AahV1E

[ZackTheGuitarist1993]

i 2v2 with my friend double zerg... were by no means good were only in gold league but we have about a 80% win right now

[lucara]

I think in 3v3 and 4v4 zerg is the supporting race. I like to play things like 6 pool, mass mutalisks, nydus network for harassment, while my allies are teching up. works pretty well most of the time.

[TheLife2306]

In 2v2 I wil play zerg anything higher forget.

[J0ck3l95]

2v2 which last longer than 10 minutes are bronze. and terran is in my opinion even better with zerg. i just think of blueflame hellion w/ speedlings. they even counter roach/stalker in earlygame. whatch day9 this is just stupidness

PS: Hydras are bad gainst everything. only toss w/ only gateway gonna suck

[J0ck3l95]

2v2 which last longer than 10 minutes are bronze. and terran is in my opinion even better with zerg. i just think of blueflame hellion w/ speedlings. they even counter roach/stalker in earlygame. whatch day9 this is just stupidness

[izvarzone]

I very rarely used Ultralisks in SC2, wanna try it.

[Luthius]

I love playing team games as zerg! We are plat in 3v3 I just find I need a protoss or terran player to play defense while me and my buddy play roach and muta

[caseyrulez7]

Thanks for helping us fight against that OP PROTOSS

[MrIHasCrayons]

actually a large ball of roaches and hydras do pretty good in mid game, just get burrow and cycle the units. and with terran allys use the roaches as meat shields :D

[Wawplayer]

Zerg is amazing in 3v3 if you do a timing-style push with a protoss and another zerg.

Try Protoss zealot cheese, zerg 1 6 pool, zerg 2 7 roach rush.

6 pool hits, 1 zealot hits, 4:30-5:00 7-8 roaches hit with about 4-6 zealots and more lings than needed to count.

[ISFKing]

thanks for the tips man im ganna subscribe and try this build

[snitchables]

What do the bonus pool do? ive got like 2000 and i dont know how to spend it r what it does. Please help :D

[TheStarcraft2Dude]

@snitchables The bonus pool was created to make it easier for players who choose to play the game every once in a while to stay competitive on the ladder with those who play the game all the time. A win is worth more points when you have bonus pool points, then when you do not have bonus pool points. The less you play the more bonus pool you get, the more you play the more you use up your bonus pool. Hope that helps!

[quizzachu]

will this work in 1v1?

[TrollingTonishi]

This really gave me little help. I often get rushed at the start of the game, since either my build order was wrong or I forgot to make enough drones... Anyway, thanks for this video! :)

[grefram]

Damn, sad to hear Terran and Zerg don't work well together. I just started playing with a friend (we're total beginners) and he likes Terran while I like Zerg, it was just something initially that made us like those two races. We had no strategies in mind.

So we ended up playing this pretty much.. but I guess I'll have to learn something else or he should if we wanna be successful. But we will try some more with this and maybe develop something fun =)

Enjoyed your video though.

[TrollingTonishi]

@grefram Well, let's say that it depens on map does terran and zerg work well together. :) If you have bases close by, your terran-friend might be able to make bunkers and stuff for protecting you. Or in some other cases, he can fly his base near by your base. The big minus point on that is he loses many expensive minerals while the base is slooowly moving.

[grefram]

@TrollingTonishi Ah well, we tried out some Roach + Reaper rushes and seems to work well in some cases. But we're still complete newbs so we are ususally kinda slow ^_^. However learning is fun and this game is fun so I don't see any reasons not to try new stuff.

Ofc I know there's a reason for some strategies to be more used than others, but trying other stuff might help me realize why the "suggested" tactics are better.

Makes sense that it depends on the setup though - I'm off to pracising!

[TrollingTonishi]

@grefram Yep, it's fun to learn! Though it's annoying to get rushed by a few zerglings or marines... Zealots don't come so fast usually. :D And I don't like to rush so much since I dislike it... And fail with it. xD Damn walls!

[staphinfection]

Why do you put your 2nd hatch randomly at a distance from your other one?? For injecting, it's so much easier to have them close together.... Do you do this for some other benefit aside from creep spread??

[jannikmt]

muta rush, 10pool with help win a LOT! and the mass muta only has 1 counter if you don't split them for thor!

[quizzachu]

do you not get a second gas if you have transitioned to infestors?

[quizzachu]

@quizzachu nvm i was thinkin it was a build order that was a dumb question actually i dont know what the hell i was thinking lol

[Soppauchiha]

Extremely helpful, commenting here for your birthday and this has to be the video that helped me the most with my Zerg play since I play so much with a Terran mate

[MistaYumYumz]

yes i know i play zerg in 4v4 alot and it seems as if it is harder tahn in 1v1 and 2v2

[Weeple10]

zerg zerg= rush and i hate it

[Eriksuns89]

what does your protoss partner use for build order? please help

[neoblast1]

If i play 2v2 with my friend and we are both zerg agains terran/protoss, we know we have no chances except if the 2 others are total noobs...they should really do something about it, playing zerg is very frustrating

[serjious94]

@neoblast1 I think zerg is the hardest race to utilize effectively in mid game, especially against powerfull terran and protoss armies, but it is definetly doable.

[neoblast1]

@serjious94 you are right. Im less noob than 2 weeks ago now and i manage to win with the same dude more often. I think zerg is not underpowered but its just way more micro intencive than protoss and terran. Maybe ill see it differently again in 2 more weeks haah

[Lotharswe]

I'd just like to thank you for the strategies in general. I'm not really a zerg player, as I tend to favor the other two races, however I do play "Random" quite a lot, I'd say most of the times even, so this really helps me get an understanding of the race rather than just saying "Oh no, not Zerg again" every time I spawn as the race I'm least comfortable with, and effectively dropping to the lowest tier of play. I'm going to try out a lot of your builds and see how it goes. Thanks again -Lothar

[noitooks]

why do you not like terran allies in 2v2 as zerg? i play 2v2 with a friend who plays terran and it seems fine, does it get worse as you go up in the ladders? im not doubting here id just like to know why so as to either work to stop potential issues or in the worst case scenario switch to another race for a partner

[TheStarcraft2Dude]

@noitooks Zerg with a terran ally you are the one that gets attacked and since your buildings are so weak it never ends well. Also when you get rushed terran players cant help you early on until they get their bio ball or mech rolling. Marines are the weakest tier 1 pre massing unit to help fend off very early cheese rushes, which is why players complain if they dont wall off, Terran loses. I play my 2v2 in the Random Team Diamond League, I can see how someone who plays on a team is different

[noitooks]

@TheStarcraft2Dude yea i see how it can be susceptible to early rushes considering marine issue, do you think most of it is a communication issue tho? how we have been playing we dont have issues with quick rushes when we have a mutual choke, and when we dont we generally go (TT) tech and harrass (toss+anything) reaper speedling rush (ZT) mirror so same issues apply (ZZ) still working on this one

[noitooks]

@TheStarcraft2Dude again it obviously becomes more of an issue at higher ranks of play, but do you have any advice for what we can do to stop these early rushes when we dont have a mutual choke?

[J0ck3l95]

@TheStarcraft2Dude that's so stupid and egoistic. if u would be a good ally, u wouldnt cry about getting attacked, it's just clever to attack zerg, because he has to decide (units or drones). and hellions and marauders are so good to be aggressive AND Defensive. and it's up to zerg to defend early game. just open w/ early pool (9-12) w/ speed and terran does 2fax blueflame hellion. u gonna be more aggressive than with stalkers, cause they never gonna be joint together with the lings.

[funh3ll]

Thanks for posting this, I like playing starcraft and I enjoy playing zerg the most even though they seem nerfed in this game. I think they should make hydralisk the bread and butter unit that they were in SC1 , also the removal of lurkers make it harder to defend against the VERY STANDARD MMM build. I know there's more balance issues but tell me what you think about this - would you say that SC1 is more balanced than SC2?

[CalibungaDude]

zerg just has hard mechanics to understand.

[raja1057]

TheStarcraft2Dude just to let u know that i am not good at zerg at all im usually good at terran but im not saying that to make u feel bad but its somewhat hard for me to beat zerg terran and protoss players -.-

[paulblasi4]

Zerg are by far the hardest race to play, but I get the feeling they can arguably be the best if you know what you are doing.

[imnotbad9]

zerg is the weakest faction, period.

[Trizmak]

medivacs heal zerg units im quite sure

[DSxCallOfBooty]

@Trizmak Yes, they do. In fact I actually just won a match using that to my advantage. I went for some quick zergling harass then transitioned into roach and hydralisks. When Roaches are burrowed, they regain health super quickly and Medivacs (which one of my teammates made a lot of) make it very difficult to kill burrowed roaches. If they focus your Meds, unburrow then reburrow when they start to attack you. Works very well. EMP is your worst nightmare though, uncloaks and steals energy.

[WarBob56565]

i cant seem to get ultras to do anything for me, they just die to easily and i can never get enough vespene to have an army of your size

[paulblasi4]

@WarBob56565 Expos. You won't immediately have a big army, but if you have 2 expos going then it shouldn't take too long.

[ghostridah]

Thanks we dont see much 2v2+ strats and I kind of feel the same when I play zerg in those modes.

[kintar1900]

Hey, Vitens: Any chance you could share out some of your saved games so we can watch them at our own pace?

[zaqo12]

terran our not that bad, one word: hellions, what do u do if a terran player has a bunch of hellions before u get any air power

[DocterMuzzy]

zerg is so stupid in sc2! i love them but they are so weak! protoss has photon canons and terran has supply depots for defense and zerg has nothing besides roachs on hold (like u showed) for walls. I wouldnt mind overlords becoming ground units that just sit there and have a new unit for overseer that would be very helpful for me

[TheTetris1337]

@DocterMuzzy Agreed. But apparently, there's going to be a patch coming soon, somewhat nerfing the Terrans. =3

[DocterMuzzy]

@TheTetris1337 and have you noticed how many units terran and protosss have compared to zerg? zerg has like 10 and terran has 20 and protoss has 18!

[SlayerML]

@DocterMuzzy Zerg can infact easily wall-in with a chocke-hatch + 2/3 spines.

Not that its a very inteligent thing to waste minerals on, but it can work in certain situations. It also wont block your units off since spines are moveable :P

[Weeple10]

zerg zerg is pretty good, toss zerg is good terran zerg not good at all

[TheMoriMaster]

@Weeple10 I wouldn't say that about TZ team if the Terran player knows what he's doing. The zerg units usually fit nicely with Terran units. The problem with most TZ teams though is that the Terran player gets too focused on his own base since the usual wall off makes them feel comfortable there. Zerg have a hard time defending their base, especially against multiple people attacking the same person. Terran takes too long getting his units out to support and there goes the game. Pool your units.

[mrjakk21]

This video has won me tons of games based on infesters alone. I am always dropping infested terrans on expands or in main base to take out key buildings and drones. There is rarely a detector around to catch me moving about underground. Thanks!

[Brionkendo]

Infestors can shoot out of burrow?!?!!? i never knew that! that is awesome!

[akitshin88]

@Brionkendo i said the same thing when i watched the video hahahaha

[snakeeat3r27]

What are you going to do if P just turtles w forge and masses void rays. lings do nothing. do we just tech up to hydras?

[Tracchofyre]

Nowadays i use in 3vs3 ONLY Banelings and INfestors and Speedlings. Why? Cause in every game they are 2 Terrans in enemy team. No Zerg to be found. Only Terrans. And everytime they come with BIO BALL at MY frontstep!

[Kill908090]

how do you recommend defending against double 10 pools as zerg? it seems thats all anyne does in team games

[neosmndrew]

gonna be honest, its kind of rude to ask someone their random 2v2 league because 9/10 people woh do random 2v2 are complete idiots.

[diazus]

I really didnt understand this clip allot, but I still subscribed, and I have not even started to play this game yet, but in a matter of weeks I will be active a couple of days a week specially over the weekends... I might add you at battle.net as fast as I log in my first time, could be fun haha!

[TheMossad921]

i find that if the enemy goes mass void rays your done if your have ultras

[Alkoholwioslaidziwki]

I have huge problems fighting against PPT in 3vs3 as a zerg in ZPT. There is no way of defending against the early rush or rushing yourself and even in later game it is very difficult to beat them. Any ideas on that, or maby you can make a vid?

[privatehuff]

I play random in 3v3 and 4v4. when i get zerg i go straight for mutas but I upgrade everything else the whole time, expand a bunch, and stockpile larva on either all mutas or mutas+corrupter depending on what we've seen from the other team. Then, we either win or the mutas smash into something horrible that starts killing them, in which case I build whatever is logical to respond. usually this means hitting 'u' until out of gas and then hitting 'z' ^_^

[Tracchofyre]

@privatehuff kudos for stilistical points, dude! "smash into something horrible that starts killing them" describes the delicate situation in which i found myself in many games as zerg very eloquently...

[xoxskullkandyxox]

I play team games almost exclusively, and almost always as zerg. The problem with zerg in team play is that zerg don't soft counter anything. They unlike the other races have to scout and build EXACTLY to match their opponent. This isn't possible when there's three possible people to fight against. You can't just build something like an MMM ball that's good against everything.

[Tracchofyre]

@xoxskullkandyxox Yea thats the problem, right on the spot...

but there´s another: As Zerg you have to overwhelm your opponent with mass. How do you overwhelm three opponents? Of course there are the team members, but if they are not there or out of positon to help you you are gonna bite the bullet as zerg.

[Botchlae]

I'm sorry but you make critical mistakes in this video :

You always want to scout early in 2v2 and then adapt, telling your ally " I want to go this way" so early in the game is, at best, useless.

Scouting is 100% crucial.

Terran / zerg is in fact quite good in 2v2, early reaper / lings rushes are very often deadly.

[INuisanceI]

It seems like if one their zerg would have have zergling rushed you in the beggining you would have lost. I could be wrong I'm just trying to learn. Could you give me some feedback on how you should prepare for that kind of stuff?

[Botchlae]

@INuisanceI Scout, scout, scout

[draugtroll]

Zerg reminds me alot of my time as a warrior in wow back in the o'l days for some reason...

[favion100]

add me MarioGreat code is 404

[Kraxil]

Good use of the infestor!

[bremstone]

Dang man took a long time getting a video up LOL I feel the same about 3v3 for my Terran man. Me and Vertigan can own almost anyone on a Zerg Terran rush. Of course this being 2v2. I can normally get a rush out really really early, normally we can do this out issue, but 3v3 feels crappy. We rush and they have just that many more forces, so 2v2 is my way to go. :D

[CharlieLabRats]

Thank you SO much for this video! I have noticed that Zerg are not nearly as good (or at least the build I"m using) in 2v2 or 3v3 (haven't done 4v4). I just couldn't put my finger on what was wrong, but this video helps a lot!

[TheKrewl]

terran is good 1v1 just they are sooooooo with the opener.

[123firewarrior]

Awesome vid!

[uchihafan8082]

alright time to apply this to my strategy. Thnx TheStarcraft2Dude

[WoWDominac]

we gotta play more games after i get back from camping =P plus i cleared my computer of all the crap that was impairing me before TT. so our games should work out better plus im getting better at zerg =)

[sizzle1337]

another good video!

zergs my main but i think im having more fun as terran :O

[Tracchofyre]

another game with Terran Ally:

Two Protoss Zealot Armies storm against my second hatchery at the ramp defended by three colonies and 1/0 speedlings and he asks:

DO YOU NEED HELP?

I hate Terran Allies.

[Beammeup87]

Yeah Terran allys suck! =(

[TheStarcraft2Dude]

@Beammeup87 Beam is the exception to the rule. He plays Terran very well and actually helps me out when I am getting attacked early on!

[Beammeup87]

@TheStarcraft2Dude Lol, why thank you good sir! I enjoy playing with you... I wanna pick up toss I think. I might start playing toss a bit.

[cryssiss]

@Beammeup87 Well actually If he has a lot of medivacs he could heal EVERY unit of a zerg player which is kind nice 

[Houck1337]

I've started looking into other races more and now that I play alot of terran, I can agree. Playing with a zerg partner is very hard if they play incorrectly. It's hard for me early game to defend them.

[ishaev]

my friend and i play a lot of 2v2, hes a protoss and we've been having a lot of problems lately (other than he doesnt understand not to get voidrays against mass marine medivac :( ) this video helped me a lot 5/5 again!

[kemando12]

what do you use to record ur vids?

[TheStarcraft2Dude]

@kemando12 Fraps

[kemando12]

@TheStarcraft2Dude Can you get the full version of fraps for free? without viruses? because the free version sucks soooo much, it's only like 30-60 seconds of capture.

[Blackhawk23x]

@kemando12 Bud its called a torrent...google latest fraps torrent and bang

[kemando12]

@Blackhawk23x Torrents are a pain in the ass.

[DamAwesomeFilms]

I've tried lings, into infestors, into ultras in 1v1. I never really though about it in team games, but it sounds very viable.

[TheStarcraft2Dude]

@DamAwesomeFilms I can definately say mutalisks have become more of a liability lately then a I win button and Hydralisks die to mass colossus/siege tank/thor combo faster then I can say "dead"

[Tracchofyre]

I find it the hardest thing to win with my Zerg in Teamgames. Zerg seems just so weak in Team. But all this will change...!

[TheStarcraft2Dude]

@Tracchofyre I find that Broodlords Broodlings in large team games just get killed instantly before doing any significant damage. The other problem is that Ultralisks are a melee only unit and therefore can be kited easily (without Infestor support) and has a significant disadvantage of being focus fired down. quickly. But alas, its the best late game units Zerg can produce so I guess were stuck with it till balance patch 1.

[Tracchofyre]

@TheStarcraft2Dude just played a game as a zerg in team vs two in 2vs2 silver league random. My partner war 1vs1 platinum level. He played terran. Enemies rushed and obliterated me and killed 90% of my base. Ally helped me and foes left us to our designs. Didnt expand. I build mass zerglings with attack and armor upgrades, infestors, ultras. Zerglings with speed and glands. Terran build only battlecruisers! Enemy zerg build a few broodlords. Terran shoed him away and we took the game.

[khianidude]

Awesome, now I can be confident about Team games with my Zerg, I need to be a better main.

[TheStarcraft2Dude]

@khianidude I am glad this video helped boost your Zerg confidence!