@DrHarryDickman ----A) You know where you can stick your thumb. B) You "probably fucked my mom already"????? Good for you. You get your tiny little jewels off humping dead women. So, you're a scumbag, an imbecile, and a Necrophiliac. The trifecta. Thumbs up babe!!! You da man!!!!
@froilan1711 Look at how well Australia is doing with our Universal Healthcare and our other 'socialist' policies and then look at the economic crisis that America is currently experiencing.
@searchlight "Typical atheist, you don't understand and you think everyone is as ignorant as you.Pathetic creatures. I've read at least ten thousand books in my life and have a university degree,asshole"
10 000 books? so lets see, if you are 40 years old say, you have read a book every single day of your life since you were 10? you have went about your day, going to school then college and even went to work after leaving school but all this time you have read a book a day for 30 years? just LOL
@1984LizardKing Funny he claims to have read just as many books, as Wilt Chamberlian's sexual encounter claim. So it's safe to say, he read at least one book.
I Love this! Fucking religious zealots trying to impress others with their accomplishments...Yet, searchlight is too dumb to realize (or even count) that his claims are absurd and ridiculous beyond belief!
why do christbots even quote the bible? its useless, they would be aswell quoting peter pan or something. just because it has quotes from this god character doesnt mean its direct quotes from the creator of the universe.
blatantly obvious the guys who wrote the bible made up god/jebus's words. thats why the omnicient, omnipotent, omnipresent being sounds like a fucking retard at times.
the creator of the universe has the same level of education as someone with a serious brain injury.
@searchlight18 Wow, typical defensive douche move on your part. You read all those books and To Kill a Mocking Bird was the only one you could name? Try another insult besides "asshole" you unoriginal bastard. Way to graduate college, I'm sure Butt Fuck University was lots of fun ;) Way to live like Christ.
@H8terade187 You asshole, you didn't read my comment.I was leaving the second book open because To Kill a Mockinbird is the number one book in high schools across the US.You ignorant asshole.Go fu#k your pitt bull asshole.
@masonTganes Yeah,buddy they used to eat brains and sacrifice women to their pagan gods.But, Jesus changed all that.Prove me wrong.Prove me wrong.
Even on pacific islands they ate dead babies and sucked brains until Christianity changed them. Even the vaunted Greeks screwed young boys and killed slaves for minor offenses.Where is this atheist Utopia you all wack off to?
"Yeah,buddy they used to eat brains and sacrifice women to their pagan gods.But, Jesus changed all that.Prove me wrong."
- there isnt a single moral teaching of christianity that isnt present in predating traditions and the immediate impact of jesus was virtually nothing (the early christians even stoned people to death .etc)
Morality changes through cultural evolution, religion simply contorts itself to fit (as this is the only way it can survive)
@types10000 -----not a "single moral teaching in christianity that isn't present in predating traditions......." WRONG. The command 'Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" was quite different that the traditional refrain "do NOT do unto others that which you would NOT want done unto you." There is a distinction. ALSO, Jesus instructed us to love our ENEMIES. Can you point to any other "tradition" that makes this moral teaching?????
- why would we need to prove you wrong when you havnt presented any evidence you are actually correct (a claim made without evidence can and should be dismissed without evidence)
@types10000 ----The evidence for faith is compelling and powerful. You simply have not either examined such evidence, or you have not found it compelling enought to alter your worldview. But, can the nonsense that there is not evidence. The fact that MORAL ABSOLUTES exist is one form of evidence. Without God they would not exist. Even Friedrish Nietzsche acknowledged this and why he had no problem with nihilism.
- we observe people to regard certain things as being right/wrong
- we also observe that WHAT people regard as right/wrong can differ (subjective)
For morality to be absolute there would need to be an additional set of rules beyond all this [an additional axiom].
Now, Given that occams razer favors the explanation with the least unknowns, what evidence do you have for absolutism? and if you have none the how can you justify holding this position over relativism?
You should read "Dickless, the Jake5811 Story". It's a true story about the world's only anally conceived baby who believes in magic over logic. I don't want to spoil it but it ends with him dying without engaging in consensual sex.
@H8terade187 LOL classic. ive argued with him since last march, i gave up after i realised he doesnt listen. and he has been destroyed every time he types his bullshit context myth up. his little objective morals trick is straight out the bill craig asslicking guide book, his biggest idol is a slippery weasel.
It's too bad that @jake5811 wasn't born in China, they would have tossed him into the river for being born without a penis. Oh, and @searchlight18, could you not think of a second book?
@H8terade187 Typical atheist, you don't understand and you think everyone is as ignorant as you.Pathetic creatures. I've read at least ten thousand books in my life and have a university degree,asshole. Notice I didn't say stupid.Only atheists think people are stupid.I think with knowledge we can all achieve the truth,asshole.
@searchlight18 saying all Atheists are Aholes is akin to me saying the same about catholics. Neither is accurate. Both have their share of stubborn "a"holes.
I consider myself an athiest. Id also try to be a decent person.
I resent any religion, cult or political party that thinks everything they know is right and people who beleive or are just different are wrong/bad/sinners.
The point is to be open minded and NOT hypocritical
@masonTganes I agree,masonTganes.This is like a war.We all get carried away
Sorry,it's just the male tetesterone( or whatever you call that hormone) We all want to win and be right.Everyone seems pretty smart ,though.At least we care.We are alive and care.I love this fight.
Religion is nothing more than a socio-pathetic belief that something extra-ordinary controls the masses. How fucking ignorant can you be? What a fucking joke!
Religion has caused more grief and horror than anything else in human existence. Get smart! Fuck religion, that the best you can be...
@DoctorAxe I guess you've read maybe two books in your life,both required reading in high school.Were they 'to Kill a Mockingbird and another book? Atheists killed 50 million Chinese in the 40s and 50s.Russian Atheists killed 20 million Russians and Ukrainians in the 30s.Slaughter unequalled in human history.
The Spanish Inquistion-vaunted as Christianity brutality.-killed 30000 over a 50 year period.
@searchlight18 how many times do I have to explain this to Christians, it's like telling a three year old fire burns. Atheism has never killed anyone, atheism isn't a religion, doctrine, belief, world view, philosophy or ideology, Atheism is the rejection of the belief that there is a God(s), if you add to that it becomes something else. Communism, Zionism, etc kills people not atheism.
@jethropike1964 I guess it can be said this way: Nature abhors a vacuum and an atheist cannot exist onto himself without filling the vacuum with philosophy that is based on something in this world.That inevitably leads to Communism,Facism or sexual deviation.It's a law of nature.There's never been anything to disprove my theory. Take Sweden,which has reverted to a Muslim dominated world of crime and self-hate..Which while they believed was a Utopia.But, now they hate themselves.
@searchlight18 " Take Sweden,which has reverted to a Muslim dominated world of crime and self-hate..Which while they believed was a Utopia.But, now they hate themselves"
LOL did you wear the dunce cap at college? sweden is 80% non religious, has the best standards of living in the world, best health mentally, some of the lowest crime stats, low suicide rates, the list goes on. it wil be the first place on earth thats a traditionally chrstian country totally getting rid of religion. fool
@searchlight18 "I've read at least ten thousand books in my life and have a university degree,asshole". I've told you a million times stop exaggerating. are you incapable of processing information atheism isn't a philosophy, you might as well say Napoleon killed in the name of diminished stature, or Stalin killed in the name of bushy moustaches. atheism doesn't lead to anything because IT ISN'T A PHILOSOPHY!!!!!!!!!!,
Tomorrow we will likely hear that searchlight18 shot and killed 200 people in a mall for no apparent reason.... Why? because reason does not exist in his vocabulary.
Sad? I know, but clearly obvious in his commentary....
@masonTganes But, we all know what everyone means , don't we? We are talking about the heavyweight champions, not the welterweight -class here.Christians are and have always been the main targets of atheists.Even the Jews don't fear Muslims as much as Christians,because Jews -who worked with Muslims in the previous eras-think muslims and other peoples are inferior to them,they know Christians are superior to their philosophy, and are not as easily manipulated.
@masonTganes I agree to disagree. But,it's true Captain Cook,world famous scientist and naviagator,killed in Hawaii
by the peaceful natives there,the serene poor third-world indigenous natives.Had his head boiiled in pot and head eaten by them to boast of their conquest. This is the world without Jesus.God bless you and good night.
"by the peaceful natives there,the serene poor third-world indigenous natives.Had his head boiiled in pot and head eaten by them to boast of their conquest. This is the world without Jesus."
- we can just as easily point to isolated instance of christian atrocity and claim that this is what the world is like WITH jesus.
@searchlight18 you've read 10,000 books in your lifetime,so you're 57 years old that's 21,000 days, so you've read one book every 2 days from the day you were born, what are you reading? where's wally and the hungry caterpillar books.
@searchlight18 originally, you gave me cause to think you might have a slight bit of sensibility, despite being a christian fundamentalist. I now realize that you are a simply a Jesus-troll.
You arguments suck, your intellect is non-existent and your cause is idiotic.
I find it best not to reciprocate with the mentally defective the moronically esoteric...
@JMFSpike You do not understand the wiles of the devil. I received from the Holy Spirit that the bible is the mark of the beast. There is only one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ, but you say it's the bible. You break the scriptures that you say you believe in.
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST It's you who does not understand the wiles of the devil, my friend. The devil masquerades as an angel of light. He hates the word of God(the bible). It wasn't the Holy Spirit who told you the bible was the mark, it was the devil. What better way to turn you against God then to convince you that his word is evil? Think about it.
@JMFSpike ---Hey, his plan worked on Adam and Eve didn't it? These folks who doubt the existence of satan should read C.S. Lewis's 'The Screwtape Letters'. Great read. It helps to explain how satan works, and it is not 'in your face'. He is subtle and ingenious and you can witness his talents at work with atheists. They have allowed themselves to be sucked in. And, the irony is they think they've got all of this figured out and that Richard Dawkins is the MAN. He's the MAN alright.
@jake5811 Don't you think that's a little condenscending? Because atheists don't believe in your particular deity of choice they've been duped by satan?
@TheKitch2 ---"condescending"??? Hardly. Atheists have bought the sales plan, and if any condescension is in play it is with atheists who insist that faith is ungrounded and baseless. Bill Maher is the poster child for condescension, and he wears his dark soul on his shoulder. Now, have a great weekend.
@jake5811 Faith is ungrounded, its the very definition of belief without evidence. Dark soul? Yeah because Bill Maher is evil. Christianity is the very definition of perhaps not condenscension but of darkness. It teaches that I am born in sin and need the blood of a 2000 year carpenter to truely live or else face an eternity in hell. That is evil.
@TheKitch2 --You've made my case. You say faith is "the very definition of belief without evidence." Total nonsense. You ever fly Kitch? Guess what? When you get on that plane you are taking a leap of faith. You are not CERTAIN that the plane is going to take you to your destination safely. But, you have faith in the pilot's skills, the engineers who designed the craft, the mechanics, the air traffic pros, and faith in the statistics. And, there is a plethora of evidence for God.
@jake5811 Yes it is, actually learn the definition. I have flown, and its not faith, its called earned trust. I trust that the the people are trained because there are regulations, laws and a track record of few crashes. If is such a plethora, how come any evidence present so far is bunk. Care to present some?
@TheKitch2 ---You are engaging in an exercise in semantics, and you are playing games which demonstrates a clear act of intellectual dishonesty. The dictionary defines faith (n)-- confidence or TRUST in a person or thing (e.g. a plane per my example): belief that is not based on PROOF (or CERTAINTY). This is PRECISELY how I framed my argument but you lack the integrity to agree. You are not an honest man and this is probably why atheism appeals to you.
@jake5811 You've just shown the very basis for faith is belief without evidence and faith is grounded in ignorance.
I have flown both as pilot and passenger. And based on my experiences and the knowledge I have of the process of flight I can say;
The evidence that planes will successfully take off and reach their destination almost all the time is over whelming. Which makes confidence that this fact = belief, not faith.
God has no evidence to support his existence.He is faith based.
@TheTruePooka ---THis entire comment is pure gibberish. If you truly are a pilot I hope to God I am never a passenger on an aircraft you are guiding. I would have absolutly no faith in a successful journey. Stick to flying pal, because you make no sense in a debate. None.
So if I gave you the statistics for successful flights in a year compared to number of crashes in a year it would be absolutely meaningless to you because you have absolutely no understanding of what a; "fact".
While with God? You can offer no evidence of his existence.
Which is why you confuse trust with belief and just babbled; "You make no sense! Insult Insult ad hom ad hom!!!"
@TheTruePooka -- You are parsing the example. Let's try another, and keep in mind we are talking about faith. You have friends right? How about a girlfriend or a wife? Have you ever been in a situation where you took a particular action based on your faith and trust in that person? You do not know for certain how they will act, but you have faith in them based on evidence or experience. Kitch said "faith is ungrounded", and I demurred. It is not ungrounded nor baseless.
@jake5811 . I just used the model you're working from (flight & faith).
And you just made my point. When I ask my wife of 20 years if she'll do something. I have 20 years of experience with her so my "faith" or "belief" that she's going to do something is based on decades of observational, real world experience in what she will do. Or won't ('LOL).
@TheTruePooka cont -And you're deliberately being obtuse about the meaning of the word; "faith".
It can be used to refer to a not unreasonable assumption but it is also used to mean; "to believe in something despite a lack of evidence or in spite of contradicting evidence".
Used that way the word tends to apply to a religious belief. Or an optimist in an abusive relationship.
You show an intellectual dishonesty by not acknowledging this.
@TheTruePooka --i'm being "obtuse". OK, so I guess the DICTIONARY is being "obtuse" as well. Look it up FalsePooka: faith (n.) confidence or trust in a PERSON (your wife), or a thing (Airplane); belief that is not based on PROOF (re: CERTAINTY). Faith is place on persons or things based on probabilities, not CERTAINTIES. Christians place their faith in God and Jesus Christ based on the PROBABILITY that He exists. We find the evidence convincing. You simply do not. It is not blind
@jake5811 Sorry, but you are. You're effectively trying to add additional description to the dictionary definition prescriptively. I'm using a descriptive interpretation.
You're effectively trying to make a prescriptive statement about what "belief" is to show God exists. Which is tail wagging the dog thinking.
@TheTruePooka If you'd like you could present your evidence for the existence of a God/s. Then I'll examine it and determine if it is accurate and correct. >.<
@TheTruePooka ----If you are unable to accept the basic definition of "faith" then there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that you will comprehend the evidence for God which is a subject far more complex than a simple definition of a simple word. I might as well be speaking Latin. It's a waste of time.
@jake5811 I actually studied Latin as my language requirement in school. If you didn't and you tried to speak it to me yes - it would be a waste of time. This certainly helps explain your poor command of the English language.
@TheTruePooka ---You must have majored in Gibberish in college. And, after reading this nonsense I imagine you graduated Summa Cum Laude in Gibberish.
@jake5811 Oh - you're a troll. That's not even good enough to be a strawman. It barely manages to be an ad hom.
You're just doing crappy trolling.
*TheTruePooka summons Thor to deal with jake5811. Jake5811 is disintegrated. Thor decrees that he shall reform as the most useless creature to have ever existed. Jake5811 comes back exactly as he was before being struck down by almighty Thor. No one notices a difference*
@TheTruePooka ----You need to double up on your prozac. And learning pig latin is not the same as learning classic Latin. You're a putz, and an unoriginal putz at that.
@jake5811 you're not on with that "need faith to fly" bollocks again are you, it is nothing to do with faith, it is probability, you work out the probability of the plane getting to it's destination, if the probability of arriving is high, you choose to fly, if it's low you don't fly, faith doesn't come into it
@JMFSpike Adventist, nazarene, baptist, church of god, church of christ, episcopal, mormon, lutheran, methodist, pentecostal, presbyterian, jejovah's witness, snake handlers, david korash, jim jones, hitler, pedophile catholics. You sure have made a lot of friends with your book.
@masonTganes We're ALL nuts to you foolish unbelievers. Only a fool would put all of their faith in man and science. Man isn't perfect. Man makes mistakes. Even the most righteous people who ever lived have done an evil thing of two in their lives. Soon, when you're running all over the Earth out of fear, we Christians will be content because we have God on our sides. No worries for us.
@masonTganes I am not wrong, and to say I might be would make me an agnostic, not a Christian. Funny how you call me a "religious nut" and "crazy" for believing, then you say you could be wrong. I'll say one thing for you, at least you're not filled to the brim with anger, hate, and violent tendencies towards Christians, like so many others are. We don't mean any harm to anyone, we simply wish for everyone(or as many as possible) to be saved. We basically just don't want anyone to suffer.
@VitaminDeth I'm a Christian, NOT a muslim. Muslim's kill in the name of God. Islam is a twisted religion from hell, that tells it's believers to kill anyone who doesn't believe the way they do.
@JMFSpike Christianity has killed as many as Islam, if not more. When the christians took the city of Acre they killed everyone inside, when the muslims took Jerusalem, they let the Christians who wanted to leave go
@JMFSpike I dont mean harm or have anger towards any person regardless of their beleifs.
Its only when a person declares they are 100% rightous in their convitions that I pity them. We all have firm beleifs. And when someone tells us we are wrong, its normal to get angry.
I would like to think that the best way for us to express ouselves is not to attack any religion or atiest view. NONE of us should delcare we are right and the other is wrong.
It's possible for religion and science to agree. One of the main tenents of the Baha'i Faith is to excuse anything that science disproves should be discarded as superstition... Yet it confirms God, Christianity, and Islam.
@jake5811 im pretty sure a dumb fool would think noahs ark is a genuine story from history. a dumb fool would think the world is only 6000 years old. despite the scientific proof that has been uncovered over the past 2000 YEARS you still choose to think that the entire universe can explained with the words, '"an invisible man made it", its a lot more complicated. people used to believe that the stars were aliens and that the world was flat, this doesnt mean they cant be proved wrong.
@jethropike1964 hahaha well thats me converted, the bible seems to have all the answers :/. this bullshit angers me, for a storybook to be taken so seriously is so utterly pathetic.
@jim191185 ----And, a dumbass fool would assume that all Christians read the bible literally which is simply not the case. And, a dumbass fool regurgitates the same pathetic atheistic mantra about an "invisible man'. A dumb and unoriginal fool. That would be the man in your mirror.
@TheBluePianist ---You will not be able to make that determination because you are not interested in getting to the heart and truth of the bible. You'd prefer to take your cursory (at best) understanding and disparage those who have delved deeper into the subject. It is indicative of an arrogant and presumptuous mind.
i am not curious over people who "study" the bible as i used to be one and am fully aware of what it entails, further, i cannot make any generalizations about such people. It is just a "study"
i am capable of understanding English. if you right the method in English i am completely confident that i will understand it fully, [and so are you so don't kid yourself].
If your argument is that you cannot use language to communicate a method then i cba to go any further
@jake5811 "NEVER said it was "allegorical". Once again you display your ignorance. It is the ONE constant about you". that's true you never actually commit yourself to any belief system, you state the Bible is some parts history, some parts poetry, some parts mythology, some parts something else, but you don't know which parts are which and you keep quoting passages of the Bible literally but state you don't believe the literal sense of the Bible, you dont have a clue what you believe
@DrHarryDickman -It's all about CONTEXT. The phrase "those whose testacles are crushed etc". referred to eunichs. Eunichs were considered unclean and often came from pagan tribes and thus were not Israelites. And, the Hebrew word Kahal was employed which does not mean the "assembly" or congregation at large. Rather, it meant the elders, or leaders of the community. They did not want foreign or unclean agents in positions of leadership. CONTEXT. The rest of your comment is absurd
@jake5811 CONTEXT MY ASS. Explain to me the mass murder, kidnapping, enslaving and RAPE in Judges 21:10-24, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, Deuteronomy 21:10-14, Judges 5:30, Exodus 21:7-11, Zechariah 14:1-2, Numbers 31:7-18. How about killing a victim of rape in Deuteronomy 22:23-24. How do the preachers spin these into a favorable CONTEXT in church? Wait, they don't. They wouldn't dare mention these verses.
@DrHarryDickman ---You posed a verse (Deuteronomy 23:1 assuming that you understood its intended meaning, and I responded by providing its CONTEXT. Your literal understanding was clearly incorrect and I provided an explanation. So, how do you respond?? You completely ignored my point and then throw out more verses which you have misinterpreted. In your zeal to be right you have failed to grasp the major point. You do not understand the meaning or CONTEXT and you never will. Bye.
@DrHarryDickman ---I didn't "spin" anything. I provided the CONTEXT for the verse you noted. And, this CONTEXT was articulated by biblical scholarship and I will place a great deal more credence in this source than some sorry ass punk who childishly calls himself DrHarryDickman. Not original. Not funny. But quite adolescent. This chat is over.
@jake5811 You said the chat was over last time and you commented again, stupid!! haha! It's original enough to be my birth name, minus the Dr. part - for now. Stupid fuck. I wipe my ass with the bible. You can't even prove jesus existed, let alone all the other nonsensical bullshit the bible is filled with. Religion is a sexually transmitted disease. Your parents had sex, you end up with their disease.
@DrHarryDickman ---No the internet is where chickenshits like you come to flex their teenie, tiny, little muscles. Talk big while carrying a little weenie.
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST What is more unlikely,that Jesus rose from the dead and performed miracles.Or, that there are 11 dimensions in the string theory universe, and warped space could put a person in a parallel universe with different futures?Stupid
sh#t isn't that?But, scientists are getting rich from that sh#t and we're not allowed to laugh at that sh#t. There is a God and Jesus is Divine. I like Bill Mahler, but he's just a Jewish atheist who's too cool for school
@searchlight18 There are bodies celestial and there are bodies terrestrial. If you are born again (regenerated) and Christ is formed in you, you are now a new creature from the Celestial realm. Bill Maher has no part nor lot in this, he is of the terrestrial world and he cannot understand a new creature. You are working with a double mind, that makes you unstable. Ask Jesus to fill you with the HolyGhost and then you will understand spiritual things.
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST I believe in Jesus, but what are you talking about? There is only one,just one.Universe terrestial or celestial.There's only one universe,one God and one reality.There's no two spheres of reality.Only one.You're mistaken there's only one.And Jesus and God are one.You sound like an alien .There's only one, one, one.You're a lost soul if you don't see that.God bless you, but you're wrong.
@searchlight18 what gives you the right to tell someone they are wrong when you have no proof other than your feeling? I am fine with everyone believing in religion and god and the like for the most part I think people are very stupid in general and it's just one of those things. BUT I never tell people they are wrong because everyone can have their own idea, you have no right to say that to anyone.
@searchlight18 There are two, two, two. Jesus has a kingdom that is not of this world. Satan has a kingdom that is of this world. Jesus controls by the Holy Ghost. Satan controls by the flesh. There is wheat and there are tares. There are sheep and there are goats. There is a straight and narrow way and there is a broad and wide way. When your soul leaves your body it will return to the Father of spirits. When you see people in heaven and you are in hell then you will see the two.
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST There's only one.Satan and the fallen souls are deprived of God, that is hell.Just as cold is the absence of heat,hell and the devils are separated from God,not a separate entity.Cold doesn't exist it's a perception of the absence of heat.
@searchlight18 Song of Solomon 5:2 I SLEEP BUT MY HEART WAKETH.
You have a lot of counsel and very little knowledge. But I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin. O wretched man that I am. Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
You can never be delivered because you are just ONE. Your favorite verse should be "Comfort the feeble minded".
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
You need the Holy Ghost so that you can understand spiritual things.
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statements.But,Jesus said the Father and I are one.There is no two. Are you a pretender or fake.A false prophet acting like a Christian,I'm being to doubt your sincerity.You're a fake,right? The beast is the anti-Christ.
@searchlight18 You sound like the upc church, united pentecostals, they don't understand spirits. So they say that Jesus is God. On the cross Jesus said, My God, why have you forsaken me? God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.
Trying to talk with you is like trying to show a sunset to a blind person.
@masonTganes When Satan seduced Eve then all had sin. So when two sinners had a baby named Cain he was of the wicked one. Put your finger in your naval, you are connected to Satan's evil seed. One man was born of the Holy Ghost, His name is Jesus, He is the Holy Seed and He must plant His seed in you for you to be regenerated. Ask Him for the Holy Ghost, that's the only chance you have to escape this world full of sinners.
@DoctorAxe ----Where exactly is this 11th commandment recorded? Perhaps it's in the 'ATHEISM for DUMMIES handbook??? Nice mouth by the way. I can see how atheism is working wonders for you.
@jethropike1964 ---so what you are saying is the joke is very much like you: "It won't get funnier with age." You really are a humorless, vapid human being.
@jake5811 "so what you are saying is the joke is very much like you: "It won't get funnier with age." Not really it was never funny in the first place. I'm saying your as funny as a dose of the clap..
@jake5811 (presumably you & searchlight18 are one & the same)
It is recorded in the book "21st Century Amendments to the 10 Commandments", which has equal, indeed intrinsically more, validity than that dubious book of desert fiction you call the bible...
Oh yes, and thank you. You should hear me in person... then it really gets interesting...
@DoctorAxe ---You "presume" too much, and that is what gets you off the mark. And, your reference to the "11th Commandment" is diametrically opposite of what Christ instructed His disciples, apostles, and followers to do. He instructed and empowered them to go to the ends of the earth bringing the 'Good news' to all. This means evangelism. Does it mean force-feeding? Of course not. It simply means 'present the case for faith in Christ and His Father.
@DoctorAxe ---"Fuck you"???? Hmmm, you stated earlier, "You should hear me in person....then it really gets interesting..." Is this how you define interesting??? I define it as profane, boorish, and immature. You're a cyberpunk who is bold and courageous when insconced in the safety of your trailer. In person, you are most likely a shrinking violet with the courage of an ostrich. And, as for "fuck you"??? I don't do requests.
@DoctorAxe ----I "assume to (the word is too by the way) much about" you"??? Hardly. You are unable to compose a single sentence without the word "fuck" or its derivative which says a great deal about you. I need not assume anything. You're a cyberweenie who hides behind a laptop boldly going where you would never go in the real world. You are a legend in your own pathetic mind. It pleases me that you are on the opposite team.
@jake5811 OIC, your focusing on a typo is indeed a revelation to me. I realize now I am communicating with catechism junior and an inept fool. Sorry, please go back to your incessant fornication with your bible-deep-throat parents.
I know that the internet give you some jollies, but it can't be as satisfying as having your mom suck your dick... LMFAO!
@DoctorAxe I would keep to myself but,these atheists are trying to convince young naive Youtubers that they are somehow more intelligent and cool than Christians.
I saw it before in the 60s "when drugs were cool and straights were stupid".Comics made drug- using "inside jokes" then, same as these frigging atheists idiots.
Sorry pal, but Atheists ARE indeed more intelligent and certainly more cool than ANY Christians.Christians have been shoving their religion down peoples' throats for far too long. I'm pleased to see society finally waking up to the ineptitude of religion, generally and christianity, in particular.
Religion/christianity is nothing more than another socio-political movement to control the weak and ignorant masses. Its great that people are coming to their senses.
Bill does not destroy religion, nothing of the sort in fact, his arguments are pretty poor.
ProtestantsRUs 26 minutes ago
good debate
AssaneRue 16 hours ago 4
I can't Believe Joe is capable of thinking about anything for a long time.
maxpolaris99 17 hours ago
ENTER YOUR TEXT HERE MOTHA FUCKA!
pardingo 17 hours ago
@pardingo ---with your talent you should be Obama's speechwriter.
jake5811 13 hours ago
@jake5811 look at all the thumbs up I got!!! I am the winner! I probably fucked your mom already.
DrHarryDickman 10 hours ago
@DrHarryDickman ----A) You know where you can stick your thumb. B) You "probably fucked my mom already"????? Good for you. You get your tiny little jewels off humping dead women. So, you're a scumbag, an imbecile, and a Necrophiliac. The trifecta. Thumbs up babe!!! You da man!!!!
jake5811 4 hours ago
At least he seemed slightly rational he admitted he was a Jesus freak
Bill Maher if there is a God he loves you more than all the organised religions
of the earth because you use the mind you've been given .
: )
MrIrishBilly 18 hours ago
Idk if its fair to say that he thinks rationally. He is a socialist. When has it not failed?
froilan1711 19 hours ago
@froilan1711 Look at how well Australia is doing with our Universal Healthcare and our other 'socialist' policies and then look at the economic crisis that America is currently experiencing.
SKiiSMLIVE 13 hours ago
Bill is awesome. He thinks so rationally.
thedarkmoonmidnight 20 hours ago
Joe Scarborough is an ass
kaduisaui 21 hours ago
if religion meant anything in reality there would be really small hospitals and 5 story churches
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masonTganes 1 day ago
@searchlight "Typical atheist, you don't understand and you think everyone is as ignorant as you.Pathetic creatures. I've read at least ten thousand books in my life and have a university degree,asshole"
10 000 books? so lets see, if you are 40 years old say, you have read a book every single day of your life since you were 10? you have went about your day, going to school then college and even went to work after leaving school but all this time you have read a book a day for 30 years? just LOL
1984LizardKing 1 day ago
@1984LizardKing Funny he claims to have read just as many books, as Wilt Chamberlian's sexual encounter claim. So it's safe to say, he read at least one book.
santora1957 23 hours ago
@1984LizardKing
I Love this! Fucking religious zealots trying to impress others with their accomplishments...Yet, searchlight is too dumb to realize (or even count) that his claims are absurd and ridiculous beyond belief!
DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
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why do christbots even quote the bible? its useless, they would be aswell quoting peter pan or something. just because it has quotes from this god character doesnt mean its direct quotes from the creator of the universe.
blatantly obvious the guys who wrote the bible made up god/jebus's words. thats why the omnicient, omnipotent, omnipresent being sounds like a fucking retard at times.
the creator of the universe has the same level of education as someone with a serious brain injury.
1984LizardKing 1 day ago
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1984LizardKing 1 day ago
@searchlight18 Wow, typical defensive douche move on your part. You read all those books and To Kill a Mocking Bird was the only one you could name? Try another insult besides "asshole" you unoriginal bastard. Way to graduate college, I'm sure Butt Fuck University was lots of fun ;) Way to live like Christ.
H8terade187 1 day ago
@H8terade187 You asshole, you didn't read my comment.I was leaving the second book open because To Kill a Mockinbird is the number one book in high schools across the US.You ignorant asshole.Go fu#k your pitt bull asshole.
searchlight18 1 day ago
@searchlight18 You aren't god. Never will be. Get over it.
restlesspride666 1 day ago
@searchlight18
BTW.... I love how the rest of the entire rest of the internet world is kicking your ass...BIGTIME!
Better get back to the closet where you can suck your own dick undisturbed... LMFAO!
DoctorAxe 2 hours ago
@searchlight18
he's really losin' it here....
DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
@H8terade187 How about a turd sucking whore???
searchlight18 1 day ago
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masonTganes 1 day ago
@masonTganes Yeah,buddy they used to eat brains and sacrifice women to their pagan gods.But, Jesus changed all that.Prove me wrong.Prove me wrong.
Even on pacific islands they ate dead babies and sucked brains until Christianity changed them. Even the vaunted Greeks screwed young boys and killed slaves for minor offenses.Where is this atheist Utopia you all wack off to?
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masonTganes 1 day ago
@searchlight18
"Yeah,buddy they used to eat brains and sacrifice women to their pagan gods.But, Jesus changed all that.Prove me wrong."
- there isnt a single moral teaching of christianity that isnt present in predating traditions and the immediate impact of jesus was virtually nothing (the early christians even stoned people to death .etc)
Morality changes through cultural evolution, religion simply contorts itself to fit (as this is the only way it can survive)
types10000 1 day ago
@types10000 -----not a "single moral teaching in christianity that isn't present in predating traditions......." WRONG. The command 'Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" was quite different that the traditional refrain "do NOT do unto others that which you would NOT want done unto you." There is a distinction. ALSO, Jesus instructed us to love our ENEMIES. Can you point to any other "tradition" that makes this moral teaching?????
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 if you follow Gods absolute morals why aren't you out killing homosexuals, stoning whores, and killing insolent children.
jethropike1964 1 day ago
@searchlight18
"Prove me wrong.Prove me wrong."
- why would we need to prove you wrong when you havnt presented any evidence you are actually correct (a claim made without evidence can and should be dismissed without evidence)
types10000 1 day ago
@types10000 ----The evidence for faith is compelling and powerful. You simply have not either examined such evidence, or you have not found it compelling enought to alter your worldview. But, can the nonsense that there is not evidence. The fact that MORAL ABSOLUTES exist is one form of evidence. Without God they would not exist. Even Friedrish Nietzsche acknowledged this and why he had no problem with nihilism.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811
"The evidence for faith is compelling and powerful"
- faith is belief without evidence. if you had evidence for it then it wouldnt be faith.
"You simply have not either examined such evidence, or you have not found it compelling"
- if such evidence exists then you would be able to present it.
- it's validity is dependent on logic, not whether i personally find it compelling
types10000 1 day ago
@jake5811
"The fact that MORAL ABSOLUTES exist is one form of evidence"
- there isnt any evidence that moral absolutes exist, that's what your trying to provide evidence for.
"Without God they would not exist."
- this is incorrect as well, you could just as easily say they are a part of the nature of the universe.
"Even Friedrish Nietzsche acknowledged this"
- i dont particularly care about who accepts it (appeal to authority) i care about what evidence you have to support it
types10000 1 day ago
@MajorDylan
- we observe people to regard certain things as being right/wrong
- we also observe that WHAT people regard as right/wrong can differ (subjective)
For morality to be absolute there would need to be an additional set of rules beyond all this [an additional axiom].
Now, Given that occams razer favors the explanation with the least unknowns, what evidence do you have for absolutism? and if you have none the how can you justify holding this position over relativism?
types10000 1 day ago
@jake5811 Your 'evidence' is shit, nonsensical jargon...
DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
He has a sense of humour at least. He did call himself a 'Jesus freak' at the end :)
McPrfctday 1 day ago
Eternal death? What? How fucking stupid can people be?
Tah1337Sauce 1 day ago
You should read "Dickless, the Jake5811 Story". It's a true story about the world's only anally conceived baby who believes in magic over logic. I don't want to spoil it but it ends with him dying without engaging in consensual sex.
H8terade187 1 day ago
@H8terade187 LOL classic. ive argued with him since last march, i gave up after i realised he doesnt listen. and he has been destroyed every time he types his bullshit context myth up. his little objective morals trick is straight out the bill craig asslicking guide book, his biggest idol is a slippery weasel.
1984LizardKing 1 day ago
It's too bad that @jake5811 wasn't born in China, they would have tossed him into the river for being born without a penis. Oh, and @searchlight18, could you not think of a second book?
H8terade187 1 day ago
@H8terade187 Typical atheist, you don't understand and you think everyone is as ignorant as you.Pathetic creatures. I've read at least ten thousand books in my life and have a university degree,asshole. Notice I didn't say stupid.Only atheists think people are stupid.I think with knowledge we can all achieve the truth,asshole.
searchlight18 1 day ago
@searchlight18 saying all Atheists are Aholes is akin to me saying the same about catholics. Neither is accurate. Both have their share of stubborn "a"holes.
I consider myself an athiest. Id also try to be a decent person.
I resent any religion, cult or political party that thinks everything they know is right and people who beleive or are just different are wrong/bad/sinners.
The point is to be open minded and NOT hypocritical
masonTganes 1 day ago
@masonTganes I agree,masonTganes.This is like a war.We all get carried away
Sorry,it's just the male tetesterone( or whatever you call that hormone) We all want to win and be right.Everyone seems pretty smart ,though.At least we care.We are alive and care.I love this fight.
searchlight18 1 day ago
Maher using the genetic falacy is considered a good answer? God have mercy on america.
NewWaysMusic 1 day ago
C'mon you dumb fuckheads...
Religion is nothing more than a socio-pathetic belief that something extra-ordinary controls the masses. How fucking ignorant can you be? What a fucking joke!
Religion has caused more grief and horror than anything else in human existence. Get smart! Fuck religion, that the best you can be...
DoctorAxe 2 days ago
@DoctorAxe I guess you've read maybe two books in your life,both required reading in high school.Were they 'to Kill a Mockingbird and another book? Atheists killed 50 million Chinese in the 40s and 50s.Russian Atheists killed 20 million Russians and Ukrainians in the 30s.Slaughter unequalled in human history.
The Spanish Inquistion-vaunted as Christianity brutality.-killed 30000 over a 50 year period.
searchlight18 1 day ago
@searchlight18 how many times do I have to explain this to Christians, it's like telling a three year old fire burns. Atheism has never killed anyone, atheism isn't a religion, doctrine, belief, world view, philosophy or ideology, Atheism is the rejection of the belief that there is a God(s), if you add to that it becomes something else. Communism, Zionism, etc kills people not atheism.
jethropike1964 1 day ago
@jethropike1964 I guess it can be said this way: Nature abhors a vacuum and an atheist cannot exist onto himself without filling the vacuum with philosophy that is based on something in this world.That inevitably leads to Communism,Facism or sexual deviation.It's a law of nature.There's never been anything to disprove my theory. Take Sweden,which has reverted to a Muslim dominated world of crime and self-hate..Which while they believed was a Utopia.But, now they hate themselves.
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@searchlight18 " Take Sweden,which has reverted to a Muslim dominated world of crime and self-hate..Which while they believed was a Utopia.But, now they hate themselves"
LOL did you wear the dunce cap at college? sweden is 80% non religious, has the best standards of living in the world, best health mentally, some of the lowest crime stats, low suicide rates, the list goes on. it wil be the first place on earth thats a traditionally chrstian country totally getting rid of religion. fool
1984LizardKing 1 day ago
@searchlight18 "I've read at least ten thousand books in my life and have a university degree,asshole". I've told you a million times stop exaggerating. are you incapable of processing information atheism isn't a philosophy, you might as well say Napoleon killed in the name of diminished stature, or Stalin killed in the name of bushy moustaches. atheism doesn't lead to anything because IT ISN'T A PHILOSOPHY!!!!!!!!!!,
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DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
@jethropike1964 well said jethro... right on!
DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
@searchlight18
Tomorrow we will likely hear that searchlight18 shot and killed 200 people in a mall for no apparent reason.... Why? because reason does not exist in his vocabulary.
Sad? I know, but clearly obvious in his commentary....
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masonTganes 1 day ago
@masonTganes But, we all know what everyone means , don't we? We are talking about the heavyweight champions, not the welterweight -class here.Christians are and have always been the main targets of atheists.Even the Jews don't fear Muslims as much as Christians,because Jews -who worked with Muslims in the previous eras-think muslims and other peoples are inferior to them,they know Christians are superior to their philosophy, and are not as easily manipulated.
searchlight18 1 day ago
@searchlight18 the more i read these posts the more i see how it ends up in harsh behavior on either side.
What i think ive learned in reading these is that we as people are never going to agree.
Everyone wants to point the finger at this religion or this athiest.
Lets all just try and respect one another. And everyone should consider the possibilies of another ponit of view different from your own.
masonTganes 1 day ago
@masonTganes I agree to disagree. But,it's true Captain Cook,world famous scientist and naviagator,killed in Hawaii
by the peaceful natives there,the serene poor third-world indigenous natives.Had his head boiiled in pot and head eaten by them to boast of their conquest. This is the world without Jesus.God bless you and good night.
searchlight18 1 day ago
@searchlight18 Intereting. Is captain Cook an actual historical figure? Im not being sarcastic i am truly asking.
I am always willing to listen to an indepth point of view.
Good chatting with you.
masonTganes 1 day ago
@masonTganes
Chatting with this guy is like chatting to your own asshole
DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
@searchlight18
"by the peaceful natives there,the serene poor third-world indigenous natives.Had his head boiiled in pot and head eaten by them to boast of their conquest. This is the world without Jesus."
- we can just as easily point to isolated instance of christian atrocity and claim that this is what the world is like WITH jesus.
types10000 1 day ago
@searchlight18
- infinite punishment for finite crimes (ie. hell)
- thought crimes
- treating women as property
- making adultery illegal
.etc
None of these are moral concepts, but all are indicative of a misogynistic culture rooted in bronze-age ignorance.
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DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
@searchlight18 you've read 10,000 books in your lifetime,so you're 57 years old that's 21,000 days, so you've read one book every 2 days from the day you were born, what are you reading? where's wally and the hungry caterpillar books.
jethropike1964 1 day ago
@searchlight18 originally, you gave me cause to think you might have a slight bit of sensibility, despite being a christian fundamentalist. I now realize that you are a simply a Jesus-troll.
You arguments suck, your intellect is non-existent and your cause is idiotic.
I find it best not to reciprocate with the mentally defective the moronically esoteric...
DoctorAxe 2 hours ago
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@JMFSpike You do not understand the wiles of the devil. I received from the Holy Spirit that the bible is the mark of the beast. There is only one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ, but you say it's the bible. You break the scriptures that you say you believe in.
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 2 days ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST It's you who does not understand the wiles of the devil, my friend. The devil masquerades as an angel of light. He hates the word of God(the bible). It wasn't the Holy Spirit who told you the bible was the mark, it was the devil. What better way to turn you against God then to convince you that his word is evil? Think about it.
JMFSpike 2 days ago
@JMFSpike ---Hey, his plan worked on Adam and Eve didn't it? These folks who doubt the existence of satan should read C.S. Lewis's 'The Screwtape Letters'. Great read. It helps to explain how satan works, and it is not 'in your face'. He is subtle and ingenious and you can witness his talents at work with atheists. They have allowed themselves to be sucked in. And, the irony is they think they've got all of this figured out and that Richard Dawkins is the MAN. He's the MAN alright.
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811 Don't you think that's a little condenscending? Because atheists don't believe in your particular deity of choice they've been duped by satan?
TheKitch2 2 days ago
@TheKitch2 ---"condescending"??? Hardly. Atheists have bought the sales plan, and if any condescension is in play it is with atheists who insist that faith is ungrounded and baseless. Bill Maher is the poster child for condescension, and he wears his dark soul on his shoulder. Now, have a great weekend.
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811 Faith is ungrounded, its the very definition of belief without evidence. Dark soul? Yeah because Bill Maher is evil. Christianity is the very definition of perhaps not condenscension but of darkness. It teaches that I am born in sin and need the blood of a 2000 year carpenter to truely live or else face an eternity in hell. That is evil.
TheKitch2 2 days ago
@TheKitch2 --You've made my case. You say faith is "the very definition of belief without evidence." Total nonsense. You ever fly Kitch? Guess what? When you get on that plane you are taking a leap of faith. You are not CERTAIN that the plane is going to take you to your destination safely. But, you have faith in the pilot's skills, the engineers who designed the craft, the mechanics, the air traffic pros, and faith in the statistics. And, there is a plethora of evidence for God.
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811 Yes it is, actually learn the definition. I have flown, and its not faith, its called earned trust. I trust that the the people are trained because there are regulations, laws and a track record of few crashes. If is such a plethora, how come any evidence present so far is bunk. Care to present some?
TheKitch2 2 days ago
@TheKitch2 ---You are engaging in an exercise in semantics, and you are playing games which demonstrates a clear act of intellectual dishonesty. The dictionary defines faith (n)-- confidence or TRUST in a person or thing (e.g. a plane per my example): belief that is not based on PROOF (or CERTAINTY). This is PRECISELY how I framed my argument but you lack the integrity to agree. You are not an honest man and this is probably why atheism appeals to you.
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TheTruePooka 2 days ago
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@jake5811 You've just shown the very basis for faith is belief without evidence and faith is grounded in ignorance.
I have flown both as pilot and passenger. And based on my experiences and the knowledge I have of the process of flight I can say;
The evidence that planes will successfully take off and reach their destination almost all the time is over whelming. Which makes confidence that this fact = belief, not faith.
God has no evidence to support his existence.He is faith based.
TheTruePooka 2 days ago
@TheTruePooka ---THis entire comment is pure gibberish. If you truly are a pilot I hope to God I am never a passenger on an aircraft you are guiding. I would have absolutly no faith in a successful journey. Stick to flying pal, because you make no sense in a debate. None.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811
Ah I see. You're an idiot.
So if I gave you the statistics for successful flights in a year compared to number of crashes in a year it would be absolutely meaningless to you because you have absolutely no understanding of what a; "fact".
While with God? You can offer no evidence of his existence.
Which is why you confuse trust with belief and just babbled; "You make no sense! Insult Insult ad hom ad hom!!!"
TheTruePooka 1 day ago 9
@TheTruePooka -- You are parsing the example. Let's try another, and keep in mind we are talking about faith. You have friends right? How about a girlfriend or a wife? Have you ever been in a situation where you took a particular action based on your faith and trust in that person? You do not know for certain how they will act, but you have faith in them based on evidence or experience. Kitch said "faith is ungrounded", and I demurred. It is not ungrounded nor baseless.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 . I just used the model you're working from (flight & faith).
And you just made my point. When I ask my wife of 20 years if she'll do something. I have 20 years of experience with her so my "faith" or "belief" that she's going to do something is based on decades of observational, real world experience in what she will do. Or won't ('LOL).
cont -
TheTruePooka 1 day ago
@TheTruePooka cont -And you're deliberately being obtuse about the meaning of the word; "faith".
It can be used to refer to a not unreasonable assumption but it is also used to mean; "to believe in something despite a lack of evidence or in spite of contradicting evidence".
Used that way the word tends to apply to a religious belief. Or an optimist in an abusive relationship.
You show an intellectual dishonesty by not acknowledging this.
TheTruePooka 1 day ago
@TheTruePooka --i'm being "obtuse". OK, so I guess the DICTIONARY is being "obtuse" as well. Look it up FalsePooka: faith (n.) confidence or trust in a PERSON (your wife), or a thing (Airplane); belief that is not based on PROOF (re: CERTAINTY). Faith is place on persons or things based on probabilities, not CERTAINTIES. Christians place their faith in God and Jesus Christ based on the PROBABILITY that He exists. We find the evidence convincing. You simply do not. It is not blind
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 Sorry, but you are. You're effectively trying to add additional description to the dictionary definition prescriptively. I'm using a descriptive interpretation.
You're effectively trying to make a prescriptive statement about what "belief" is to show God exists. Which is tail wagging the dog thinking.
TheTruePooka 1 day ago
@TheTruePooka If you'd like you could present your evidence for the existence of a God/s. Then I'll examine it and determine if it is accurate and correct. >.<
TheTruePooka 1 day ago
@TheTruePooka I asked jakey boy for his evidence three weeks ago, he keeps it in his heart, allegedly.
jethropike1964 1 day ago
@TheTruePooka There's a Supreme Being who's looking for evidence that you exist....
dataghost196 1 day ago
@TheTruePooka ----If you are unable to accept the basic definition of "faith" then there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that you will comprehend the evidence for God which is a subject far more complex than a simple definition of a simple word. I might as well be speaking Latin. It's a waste of time.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 I actually studied Latin as my language requirement in school. If you didn't and you tried to speak it to me yes - it would be a waste of time. This certainly helps explain your poor command of the English language.
TheTruePooka 1 day ago
@TheTruePooka ---You must have majored in Gibberish in college. And, after reading this nonsense I imagine you graduated Summa Cum Laude in Gibberish.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 Oh - you're a troll. That's not even good enough to be a strawman. It barely manages to be an ad hom.
You're just doing crappy trolling.
*TheTruePooka summons Thor to deal with jake5811. Jake5811 is disintegrated. Thor decrees that he shall reform as the most useless creature to have ever existed. Jake5811 comes back exactly as he was before being struck down by almighty Thor. No one notices a difference*
And nothing of value was lost.
TheTruePooka 23 hours ago
@TheTruePooka LOL
santora1957 23 hours ago
@TheTruePooka ----You need to double up on your prozac. And learning pig latin is not the same as learning classic Latin. You're a putz, and an unoriginal putz at that.
jake5811 21 hours ago
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@jake5811 are you on repeat "I imagine you graduated Summa Cum Laude in Gibberish". you said that four days ago.
jethropike1964 23 hours ago
@jake5811 You're not Jesus. Don't know him. Never will. Get over it.
restlesspride666 1 day ago
@restlesspride666 ----You're right. And, I'm not a doorknob either. I assume you were attempting to make a point. You have failed.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 you're not on with that "need faith to fly" bollocks again are you, it is nothing to do with faith, it is probability, you work out the probability of the plane getting to it's destination, if the probability of arriving is high, you choose to fly, if it's low you don't fly, faith doesn't come into it
jethropike1964 1 day ago
@jake5811 Dawkins is way better than your 'god'
DoctorAxe 1 day ago
@jake5811 why do you think Satan tempted Adam and Eve?????????????? it never happened.
jethropike1964 1 day ago
@JMFSpike Adventist, nazarene, baptist, church of god, church of christ, episcopal, mormon, lutheran, methodist, pentecostal, presbyterian, jejovah's witness, snake handlers, david korash, jim jones, hitler, pedophile catholics. You sure have made a lot of friends with your book.
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 1 day ago
@JMFSpike you exemplify a religious nut. Even a preacher or holy man wouldnt rant the way you have. Honestly you are crazy.
masonTganes 1 day ago
@masonTganes We're ALL nuts to you foolish unbelievers. Only a fool would put all of their faith in man and science. Man isn't perfect. Man makes mistakes. Even the most righteous people who ever lived have done an evil thing of two in their lives. Soon, when you're running all over the Earth out of fear, we Christians will be content because we have God on our sides. No worries for us.
JMFSpike 14 hours ago
@JMFSpike It's not faith if you have evidence.
SaucyJake 13 hours ago
@JMFSpike As ive said a million times before... I could be wrong. - But so could you.
To say you are 100% right and its NOT at all possible what some athiests say might true - well thats closeminded.
All i ask is consider that its possible that every thing you ever beleived in is a fairy tale.
Just as i will consider that my rejection of religion is wrong too.
masonTganes 11 hours ago
@masonTganes I am not wrong, and to say I might be would make me an agnostic, not a Christian. Funny how you call me a "religious nut" and "crazy" for believing, then you say you could be wrong. I'll say one thing for you, at least you're not filled to the brim with anger, hate, and violent tendencies towards Christians, like so many others are. We don't mean any harm to anyone, we simply wish for everyone(or as many as possible) to be saved. We basically just don't want anyone to suffer.
JMFSpike 9 hours ago
@JMFSpike
"We basically don't want anyone to suffer."
That's funny when you think about all the people killed in the name of God...
VitaminDeth 8 hours ago
@VitaminDeth I'm a Christian, NOT a muslim. Muslim's kill in the name of God. Islam is a twisted religion from hell, that tells it's believers to kill anyone who doesn't believe the way they do.
JMFSpike 4 hours ago
@JMFSpike Christianity has killed as many as Islam, if not more. When the christians took the city of Acre they killed everyone inside, when the muslims took Jerusalem, they let the Christians who wanted to leave go
Bubbles7066 3 hours ago
@JMFSpike I dont mean harm or have anger towards any person regardless of their beleifs.
Its only when a person declares they are 100% rightous in their convitions that I pity them. We all have firm beleifs. And when someone tells us we are wrong, its normal to get angry.
I would like to think that the best way for us to express ouselves is not to attack any religion or atiest view. NONE of us should delcare we are right and the other is wrong.
masonTganes 40 minutes ago
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Wow...Bill Maher hit the nail right on the head. And the other guy is just trying to tip toe around with bullshit answers.
elembeck 2 days ago
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Wow...Bill Maher hit the nail right on the head. And the other guy is just trying to tip toe around with bullshit answers.
elembeck 2 days ago
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Wow...Bill Maher hit the nail right on the head. And the other guy is just trying to tip toe around with bullshit answers.
elembeck 2 days ago
Wow...Bill Maher hit the nail right on the head. And the other guy is just trying to tip toe around with bullshit answers.
elembeck 2 days ago
Joe offered nothing in response. Straight to damage control, ready to pull the plug.
niginit 2 days ago
It's possible for religion and science to agree. One of the main tenents of the Baha'i Faith is to excuse anything that science disproves should be discarded as superstition... Yet it confirms God, Christianity, and Islam.
aaronlee75 2 days ago
although i am a conservative i still agree with maher on religion
MrRangersfan123 2 days ago
Religion is for people who... well just dumb people mostly
DrHarryDickman 3 days ago
@DrHarryDickman ----Psalms 14:1---'The FOOL hath said in his heart, "There is no God."
Guess I'd rather be dumb than a FOOL. And, your ID would indicate that you may be a dumb FOOL.
jake5811 3 days ago
@jake5811 im pretty sure a dumb fool would think noahs ark is a genuine story from history. a dumb fool would think the world is only 6000 years old. despite the scientific proof that has been uncovered over the past 2000 YEARS you still choose to think that the entire universe can explained with the words, '"an invisible man made it", its a lot more complicated. people used to believe that the stars were aliens and that the world was flat, this doesnt mean they cant be proved wrong.
jim191185 2 days ago
@jim191185 and don't forget the Bible also states that bats are birds.
jethropike1964 2 days ago
@jethropike1964 hahaha well thats me converted, the bible seems to have all the answers :/. this bullshit angers me, for a storybook to be taken so seriously is so utterly pathetic.
jim191185 2 days ago
@jim191185 ----And, a dumbass fool would assume that all Christians read the bible literally which is simply not the case. And, a dumbass fool regurgitates the same pathetic atheistic mantra about an "invisible man'. A dumb and unoriginal fool. That would be the man in your mirror.
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811 so, how do they determine what is "literal" and what is not
if their answer is regardless, the bible is irrelevant to their belief and can be used eg as justification for insanity
TheBluePianist 2 days ago
@TheBluePianist ---You will not be able to make that determination because you are not interested in getting to the heart and truth of the bible. You'd prefer to take your cursory (at best) understanding and disparage those who have delved deeper into the subject. It is indicative of an arrogant and presumptuous mind.
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811
cute
i am not curious over people who "study" the bible as i used to be one and am fully aware of what it entails, further, i cannot make any generalizations about such people. It is just a "study"
i am capable of understanding English. if you right the method in English i am completely confident that i will understand it fully, [and so are you so don't kid yourself].
If your argument is that you cannot use language to communicate a method then i cba to go any further
TheBluePianist 2 days ago
@jake5811 i said right => *write*
and i assume we are done? cant think of anything youll say that hasnt been covered
call me arrogant for trying to decipher and predict what youll say w/e im bored
TheBluePianist 2 days ago
@jake5811 is God real or is he allegorical like the Bible???????
jethropike1964 2 days ago
@jethropike1964 ---NEVER said it was "allegorical". Once again you display your ignorance. It is the ONE constant about you.
jake5811 2 days ago
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@jake5811 "NEVER said it was "allegorical". Once again you display your ignorance. It is the ONE constant about you". that's true you never actually commit yourself to any belief system, you state the Bible is some parts history, some parts poetry, some parts mythology, some parts something else, but you don't know which parts are which and you keep quoting passages of the Bible literally but state you don't believe the literal sense of the Bible, you dont have a clue what you believe
jethropike1964 2 days ago
@jake5811 Deuteronomy 23:1 - No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.
Looks like you can't get into heaven anyways. NOW, grow a pair and if god exists he might accept you.
DrHarryDickman 2 days ago 15
@DrHarryDickman -It's all about CONTEXT. The phrase "those whose testacles are crushed etc". referred to eunichs. Eunichs were considered unclean and often came from pagan tribes and thus were not Israelites. And, the Hebrew word Kahal was employed which does not mean the "assembly" or congregation at large. Rather, it meant the elders, or leaders of the community. They did not want foreign or unclean agents in positions of leadership. CONTEXT. The rest of your comment is absurd
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811 CONTEXT MY ASS. Explain to me the mass murder, kidnapping, enslaving and RAPE in Judges 21:10-24, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, Deuteronomy 21:10-14, Judges 5:30, Exodus 21:7-11, Zechariah 14:1-2, Numbers 31:7-18. How about killing a victim of rape in Deuteronomy 22:23-24. How do the preachers spin these into a favorable CONTEXT in church? Wait, they don't. They wouldn't dare mention these verses.
DrHarryDickman 2 days ago 23
@DrHarryDickman ---You posed a verse (Deuteronomy 23:1 assuming that you understood its intended meaning, and I responded by providing its CONTEXT. Your literal understanding was clearly incorrect and I provided an explanation. So, how do you respond?? You completely ignored my point and then throw out more verses which you have misinterpreted. In your zeal to be right you have failed to grasp the major point. You do not understand the meaning or CONTEXT and you never will. Bye.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 YOU + CONTEXT = BULLSHIT. I don't give a shit about how you spin the verses contextually. Go ahead, TRY AND JUSTIFY RAPE.
DrHarryDickman 1 day ago
@DrHarryDickman ---I didn't "spin" anything. I provided the CONTEXT for the verse you noted. And, this CONTEXT was articulated by biblical scholarship and I will place a great deal more credence in this source than some sorry ass punk who childishly calls himself DrHarryDickman. Not original. Not funny. But quite adolescent. This chat is over.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 You said the chat was over last time and you commented again, stupid!! haha! It's original enough to be my birth name, minus the Dr. part - for now. Stupid fuck. I wipe my ass with the bible. You can't even prove jesus existed, let alone all the other nonsensical bullshit the bible is filled with. Religion is a sexually transmitted disease. Your parents had sex, you end up with their disease.
DrHarryDickman 1 day ago
@DrHarryDickman -ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 Keep fighting it. You'll only last so long here, the internet is where religions come to die.
DrHarryDickman 1 day ago 40
@DrHarryDickman ---No the internet is where chickenshits like you come to flex their teenie, tiny, little muscles. Talk big while carrying a little weenie.
jake5811 1 day ago
@DrHarryDickman internet is indeed where religion comes to die, which means the devil made the internet...
um... i would rather worship the devil who make technonelgy which helps people, over a god who threatens over and over again to kill and torture you
and yeah... the devil dont do that... its god threatening you... (can be confirmed in the bible)
destroy the stupidity we call religion.. its not OK to be intentional ignorant
Nr2reaper 6 hours ago
Bibleworshipers give Jesus a bad rap because they are phony.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 3 days ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST What is more unlikely,that Jesus rose from the dead and performed miracles.Or, that there are 11 dimensions in the string theory universe, and warped space could put a person in a parallel universe with different futures?Stupid
sh#t isn't that?But, scientists are getting rich from that sh#t and we're not allowed to laugh at that sh#t. There is a God and Jesus is Divine. I like Bill Mahler, but he's just a Jewish atheist who's too cool for school
searchlight18 3 days ago
@searchlight18 There are bodies celestial and there are bodies terrestrial. If you are born again (regenerated) and Christ is formed in you, you are now a new creature from the Celestial realm. Bill Maher has no part nor lot in this, he is of the terrestrial world and he cannot understand a new creature. You are working with a double mind, that makes you unstable. Ask Jesus to fill you with the HolyGhost and then you will understand spiritual things.
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK 666.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 3 days ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST I believe in Jesus, but what are you talking about? There is only one,just one.Universe terrestial or celestial.There's only one universe,one God and one reality.There's no two spheres of reality.Only one.You're mistaken there's only one.And Jesus and God are one.You sound like an alien .There's only one, one, one.You're a lost soul if you don't see that.God bless you, but you're wrong.
searchlight18 3 days ago
@searchlight18 what gives you the right to tell someone they are wrong when you have no proof other than your feeling? I am fine with everyone believing in religion and god and the like for the most part I think people are very stupid in general and it's just one of those things. BUT I never tell people they are wrong because everyone can have their own idea, you have no right to say that to anyone.
doolittlesy1 3 days ago
@searchlight18 There are two, two, two. Jesus has a kingdom that is not of this world. Satan has a kingdom that is of this world. Jesus controls by the Holy Ghost. Satan controls by the flesh. There is wheat and there are tares. There are sheep and there are goats. There is a straight and narrow way and there is a broad and wide way. When your soul leaves your body it will return to the Father of spirits. When you see people in heaven and you are in hell then you will see the two.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 2 days ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST There's only one.Satan and the fallen souls are deprived of God, that is hell.Just as cold is the absence of heat,hell and the devils are separated from God,not a separate entity.Cold doesn't exist it's a perception of the absence of heat.
searchlight18 2 days ago
@searchlight18 Song of Solomon 5:2 I SLEEP BUT MY HEART WAKETH.
You have a lot of counsel and very little knowledge. But I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin. O wretched man that I am. Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
You can never be delivered because you are just ONE. Your favorite verse should be "Comfort the feeble minded".
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
You need the Holy Ghost so that you can understand spiritual things.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 2 days ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statements.But,Jesus said the Father and I are one.There is no two. Are you a pretender or fake.A false prophet acting like a Christian,I'm being to doubt your sincerity.You're a fake,right? The beast is the anti-Christ.
searchlight18 2 days ago
@searchlight18 You sound like the upc church, united pentecostals, they don't understand spirits. So they say that Jesus is God. On the cross Jesus said, My God, why have you forsaken me? God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.
Trying to talk with you is like trying to show a sunset to a blind person.
Jesus only has a remnant.
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
You need the Holy Ghost.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 1 day ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST First off Man wrote the bible you nut job.
2nd.... you cant tell me that THE ONLY WAY to be a good person is to "have the holy ghost" in your life.
I suppose that the thousands upon thousands of years before the man made BIBLE was written... no human on earth was ever a good person.
masonTganes 2 days ago
@masonTganes When Satan seduced Eve then all had sin. So when two sinners had a baby named Cain he was of the wicked one. Put your finger in your naval, you are connected to Satan's evil seed. One man was born of the Holy Ghost, His name is Jesus, He is the Holy Seed and He must plant His seed in you for you to be regenerated. Ask Him for the Holy Ghost, that's the only chance you have to escape this world full of sinners.
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 1 day ago
@searchlight18
You again, bible thumping fuckwad?! Again... the 11th commandment: 'Keep thy religion to thyself'
You'll have a lot less 'shit' to deal with and a whole lot better off...
DoctorAxe 3 days ago
@DoctorAxe ----Where exactly is this 11th commandment recorded? Perhaps it's in the 'ATHEISM for DUMMIES handbook??? Nice mouth by the way. I can see how atheism is working wonders for you.
jake5811 3 days ago
@jake5811 not the ATHEISM for DUMMIES handbook joke again, it wasn't funny the first time and I don't think it will get funnier with age.
jethropike1964 2 days ago
@jethropike1964 ---so what you are saying is the joke is very much like you: "It won't get funnier with age." You really are a humorless, vapid human being.
jake5811 2 days ago
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@jake5811 "so what you are saying is the joke is very much like you: "It won't get funnier with age." Not really it was never funny in the first place. I'm saying your as funny as a dose of the clap..
jethropike1964 2 days ago
@jake5811 (presumably you & searchlight18 are one & the same)
It is recorded in the book "21st Century Amendments to the 10 Commandments", which has equal, indeed intrinsically more, validity than that dubious book of desert fiction you call the bible...
Oh yes, and thank you. You should hear me in person... then it really gets interesting...
DoctorAxe 2 days ago
@DoctorAxe ---You "presume" too much, and that is what gets you off the mark. And, your reference to the "11th Commandment" is diametrically opposite of what Christ instructed His disciples, apostles, and followers to do. He instructed and empowered them to go to the ends of the earth bringing the 'Good news' to all. This means evangelism. Does it mean force-feeding? Of course not. It simply means 'present the case for faith in Christ and His Father.
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811
Off what mark? yours? Fuck you!
Diametrically opposite doesn't mean untrue. It's just as valid as anything you claim. If you want to follow fantasy and fiction, by all means!
Force-feeding is indeed what you are trying to do by the very nature of your comments.
You can take your 'faith' in your pompous, imaginary deities and shove them where the sun don't shine...
DoctorAxe 2 days ago
@DoctorAxe ---"Fuck you"???? Hmmm, you stated earlier, "You should hear me in person....then it really gets interesting..." Is this how you define interesting??? I define it as profane, boorish, and immature. You're a cyberpunk who is bold and courageous when insconced in the safety of your trailer. In person, you are most likely a shrinking violet with the courage of an ostrich. And, as for "fuck you"??? I don't do requests.
jake5811 2 days ago
@jake5811
What you define is of no interest to me...
You come off as idiotic, narcissistic and a fool.
You assume to much about me and what you think I am, which is ultimately, your down fall.
Expound all you will, as best you can but ultimately, you express only pseudo-intellect on a subject based on fantasy.
Good luck in convincing others of your ineptitude.
DoctorAxe 2 days ago
@DoctorAxe ----I "assume to (the word is too by the way) much about" you"??? Hardly. You are unable to compose a single sentence without the word "fuck" or its derivative which says a great deal about you. I need not assume anything. You're a cyberweenie who hides behind a laptop boldly going where you would never go in the real world. You are a legend in your own pathetic mind. It pleases me that you are on the opposite team.
jake5811 1 day ago
@jake5811 OIC, your focusing on a typo is indeed a revelation to me. I realize now I am communicating with catechism junior and an inept fool. Sorry, please go back to your incessant fornication with your bible-deep-throat parents.
I know that the internet give you some jollies, but it can't be as satisfying as having your mom suck your dick... LMFAO!
DoctorAxe 1 hour ago
@jake5811
Oh yeah, obviously in your ignorance, let me elaborate, "FUCK YOU is not a request but an expression of disdain and pity...
DoctorAxe 2 days ago
@DoctorAxe I would keep to myself but,these atheists are trying to convince young naive Youtubers that they are somehow more intelligent and cool than Christians.
I saw it before in the 60s "when drugs were cool and straights were stupid".Comics made drug- using "inside jokes" then, same as these frigging atheists idiots.
searchlight18 2 days ago
@searchlight18
Sorry pal, but Atheists ARE indeed more intelligent and certainly more cool than ANY Christians.Christians have been shoving their religion down peoples' throats for far too long. I'm pleased to see society finally waking up to the ineptitude of religion, generally and christianity, in particular.
Religion/christianity is nothing more than another socio-political movement to control the weak and ignorant masses. Its great that people are coming to their senses.
DoctorAxe 2 days ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST You are a fool. How can the bible be the mark of the beast when it's the bible that TELLS us about it?
JMFSpike 3 days ago