I am not desperate. I am just refuting an arrogant Christian.
What is your evidence that Islam is "evil"? Its followers? Muslims do not represent genuine Islam just like Christians do not represent Christianity etc...
That depends on translations and manuscripts. Still, if Jesus was Godm who owns everything in the past, present and the future, why did Satan bother tempting him with wealth and women? The answer is because Jesus was a mere human who did not own these things.
God was also tempted in the Old Testament. Satan tempting is not a determiner of divinity, but whether you overcome his temptation or not is. Muhammad was unable to do so.
He corrected himself after "Jibril" told him it wasn't from God, but he failed the test nonetheless.
Islam often musters these types of questions, amongst its followers since its theology is incomplete. The Quran provides an incorrect view on angelology and demonology, confusing spiritual nature, including God's.
1. Yahweh was not tempted by Satan because Satan was intelligent enough to know that Yahweh could not be tempted. Yet Satan tried to tempt Jesus because he knew Jesus was a mere human who could be tempted. Whether Jesus resisted or not is irrelevant.
2. When was prophet Muhammad ever tempted by Satan?
3. Prophet Muhammad never corrected himself because there was nothing wrong with revelation. You are relying on fabricated Hadiths and Sira that were written 150-200 after the death of prophet Muhammad.
4. Christianity is theologically vacuous. There is no theology in Christianity. Islam, on the other hand, is full of theology.
5. How does the Quran provide an incorrect view on angelology and demonology or confuse spiritual nature including God's? Where is your evidence?
The Quran says that there are these beings called "jinn" who were created from a smokeless fire. This is a totally foreign concept not only in Judaism and Christianity, but also foreign to Judeo-Christian mythology.
In the Bible, Christ references how demons/satan are fallen angels. The Quran is ignorant of this, and also of the fact that these fallen angels referred to Jesus as the Son of God. Go figure.
1. If the holy Quran says that Jinn are created from somkeless fire, then it is the truth. We do not care what the Bible says because it is not an authority to us or any other non-Christians. The Bible is full of myths like the ones you mentioned here.
1. Where is this exactly in Exodus and Job? I need to get the correct context and exegesis.
2. Jesus was not a human model. and surely he was not God in the flesh.
3. Muslims do not have a human model. Our only model is the holy Quran.
4. When did prophet Muhammad ever give into Satan's temptation? This is untrue. You probably have been deceived on this by Hayah channel with Botros and Rashid. They are known liars and have been debunked over and over all over the internet.
this video is bullshit. mohammed was possed by satan on numerousd occassions as he stated/admitted in the sura. this is what salman rushdi wrote about in the Satanic Verses which have quotes form your garbage paki book!!!
"And (O people!) your companion is not one possessed" [81:22]
"Nor is it the word of an evil spirit accursed."[81:25]
The Quran never says he was possessed, but those two verses seem to have been 'revealed' in order to defend him from people who suspected that he was...
81:22 says that he was not mad. This proves nothing since Jesus himself was called crazy in the Gospels by several people. But unlike Jesus, all the people at the time of Muhammed believed in him later on. Jesus failed in this.
81:25 says that the Quran is not the word of Satan.
worse than this concept, mohammed screwed aisha when she was 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is so incredibly disgusting, the moslems should have stoned him to death when he did such a revolting and filthy thing! what kind of sick lecherous pervert (in his 50's) would have sex with a 9 year old? (!!!!!!!!!!!)mohammed, that's who! there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to justify this heinous CRIME.
any moslem who doesn't walk away from mohammed after this shows God that he approves of this crime.
You honestly have made your own version of Islam, since you disregard Hadith and Sira. Without them, you really have no basis for arguing a position for Muhammad's prophethood or how verses were revealed.
Remember, if you became a citizen in a Caliphate state, you would be subjected to what's in the Hadith and Sira--regardless of your own interpretations of the Islamic faith. I pray that you find Christ again in your heart, because you are tredding a dangerous path.
1. I have not made my own version of Islam. I just follow the Islam that was revealed to prophet Muhammad and all the prophets before him. Prophet Muhammad was Quran only. Hadiths and Sira did not exist in his time. Many imams have been Quran only throughout the ages, including the infamous imam Abu Hanifa.
2. The basis for our faith is the holy Quran. Prophet Muhammad is not a central figure Islam like Christians falsely believe.
3. He is only the last prophet in a long chain of prophets. If we prove that the holy Quran is the word of God, which we can, then prophet Muhammad becomes a genuine prophet by default.
4. We can certainly understand the verses of the holy Quran because the holy Quran explains itself by itself. We do not need the fakse Hadiths and Sira to understand them.
5. I do not care what other Muslim countries or "Caliphate" do or say. They follow a distorted version of Islam. I do not live in a Muslim country. I follow the Islam of God, the holy Quran.
6. I do not need to find Christ because I have already found the God of Christ, Allah almighty. I pray that you find Him too because you are following a false and contradictory religion.
what utter shit! to say that christians are only good at making muslims laugh, so tell me, what have moooooslims done for humanity except invent the suicide bomber? i'm not christian but i can tell the fruit of your tree is a rotten one.
you misunderstand islam, the sorry state of many moslems today is the fault of moslems. moslems always blame other people for their failings. moslems from mohammed's time sent out armies to destroy the west, the east and africa. moslems were finally defeated and got off easy. the ottomans returned the balkans to the dark ages, yet when the turks were tossed out of europe other european countries like france tried to prop them up instead of let them get the punishment they deserved.
Arrogant, and ignorant, Christian apologists say that the parents of prophet Muhammed did not say an alleged Hadith of prophet Muhammed when they had intercourse, and that this, somehow , proves that prophet Muhammed was "possessed"!!
What an ignorant comment! EVEN YOUR OWN QURAN SAYS THAT HE WAS POSSESSED! YOU are DESPERATE when you try to falsihood hadiths that you don't like!
My dear brother Narnia, as Ive said before, there's no use in talking to a wall, even if hard evidences are being presented to it. You are like wall, with a billboard saying this and that, but you dont have the ability to receive the response of those who read it. You keep on preaching everywhere, dont you ever think that our own apologetics are also applicable to you? Just like what you think of the holy spirit for us? Well, the holy spirit was not seen fit for Jimmy Swaggart and the rest.
ex, you are obviously not a former christian. if you were you would understand that the reason the world is full of bloodshed, greed and hatred is because the world is satan's. the bible acknowledges this, it says the world WILL BECOME Christ's in the future (Rev 11:15). Now, mohammed was tempted in this same way (given kingdoms for worshiping satan) and he gave in, that's why he received an empire, a bloody, murdering empire that is still causing terror and evil today. God's?--you blaspheme!
Believe me dear I know the Bible more than you or your sheep brothern here.
You also avoid the topic. If Jesus was indeed God who owns everything, the past and the present and the future, why did Satan even bother tempting him? The l;ogical answer is because Jesus was a mere human who could have been tempted by such an offer.
i'm an exchristian, but this is a very simple question answered by the new testament when it says that jesus having been God, emptied himself making himself merely human. he had to pass every test as a human or he would have been an unfit sacrifice (the equivalent of an animal with blemishes, which is unfit for sacrifice). and he had to have been God originally because otherwise, his life would not be worth the lives of the entire human race. the biblical god required such a sacrifice.
Your problem is that you interpret the Hebrew Bible according to the Greek Bible, when actually it should be vice versa.
The God of the Hebrew Bible is not human, and thus Jesus was a false god. The Hebrew Bible is clear that through repentance sins will be forgiven, without a need to send his "son" as a sacrifice for the human race. This is one of the reasons I left Christianity, because it contradicts the Hebrew Bible. It is internally contradictory.
God took on human form several times in the Old Testament--so your argument has no standing. He also made sacrifice a requirement of the law--without it Israel cannot atone for other nation's sins, or their own unintentional sins, and is why the current form of Judaism is utterly pointless, since the Temple was destroyed and no more sacrifices can be carried out.
Christ is from the order of Melchizedek, who offered Himself as a sacrifice for the world. You seem unread in the Prophets.
1. There is a difference between taking form and being a human being in essence. You have no point here.
2. The Jesus sacrifice contradicts the sacrifice laws in the Hebrew Bible. Thus Christianity is false according to the Bible. Go read the Pentateuch. You seem unlearned in it.
3. The laws of Moses (Mitzvot) are eternal according to Yahweh.
4. Jesus was not the descendant of David, which is an essential requirement ot be the Messiah. Thus he was a false Messiah according to the Bible.
cRossZhaker : You have all the ability to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit....but it is not because you are a muslim. It's because the Holy Spirit speaks directly to sinners.
ExChristian, you said christians invented the Holy Spirit ('Ghost' is archaic English and incorrect), but the bible says:
Genesis 1:2--And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
That is the Holy Spirit, mentioned in the 2nd verse of the bible, thus for your statement to be true, the author of Genesis would have to be a christian. the Holy Spirit is mentioned many times in the old testament, however, it is not a person. It is the substance, attitude, holiness and power of God.
In Christianity the Holy Spirit is the third person in the Trinity. In the Hebrew Bible that is incorrect. The Spirit of God in the Hebrew Bible is the attitude of God, not a person of a Trinitarian "Godhead". Thus the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament as you Christians disparagingly call it, disproves Christianity.
you are correct regarding the trinity, except that "christians" who believe the trinity are not followers of jesus but followers of the catholic church. nothing in the new testament supports the idea that the holy spirit is a person. rather, since mary was found "of child of the Holy Spirit", it equates the Holy Spirit with the Father. the holy spirit is thus merely the power that the Father used to project himself and conceive the Son. the catholics get their trinity idea from paganism.
I agree with all those things said in this video, especially the last one. These desperate christian apologists who came from different christian sects and denomination are really hilarious. To name a few, we have Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Marvin Gorman, Anis Shorrosh and the next one in line, Joseph Smith. I just can't wait for the very much anticipated humiliation of you Jay. Beware...
Christians don't need to take "cheap shots" at Islam. The Quran does it all on it's own.
Surah 4.157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus...BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them...FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-
Heb10:29 OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing...
"Surah 4.157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus...BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them...FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-
Heb10:29 OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing..."
The Bible is of no authority to us. We do not believe in it.
"A triune "God" is still polytheism. It's complex and schizophrenic. So even if your "God" is still "3 in 1", that's still polytheism."
Since Islam recognizes God, and God's Spirit, then by the yardstick with which Islam measures Christianity, Islam is polytheist, believing in two Gods. God and His Spirit. "two in one".
But you don't believe that it is the angel Gabriel that was put in Mary. You believe she carried Allah's spirit into Mary right? You call Jesus Ruhullah, or Allah's spirit.
Christians believe in God, and God's Spirit, and God manifest in the flesh in Jesus Christ.
Muslims accuse polytheism.
Muslims believe in God, and God's Spirit, and God's Spirit made flesh in Jesus Christ. (Ruhullah)
But you don't believe that it is the angel Gabriel that was put in Mary. You believe she carried Allah's spirit into Mary right? You call Jesus Ruhullah, or Allah's spirit."
True, but Muslims do not call Jesus "Ruhullah" or Allah's spirit. He is just a prophet.
"Muslims believe in God, and God's Spirit, and God's Spirit made flesh in Jesus Christ. (Ruhullah)
Muslims claim monotheism."
Wrong.
Muslims believe in God alone.
We also believe in His angels and prophets. The Holy Spirit is angel Gabriel. Also, Muslims do not believe in God's Spirit made flesh in Jesus. That's just plain wrong and un-Islamic.
The terms "trinity", "triune" or "three persons/personages" and such, are church TERMS that come from doctrine, that perhaps haven't served the church very well.
According to the New Testament, trinity is 3 distinct yet inseparable "Gods".
I do agree that the Books of the Jews (Hebrew Bible) understand God as absolutely One, but the New Testament is a different story!
In the New Testament, you read Jesus (The supposed "Son of God") talking to the "Father" and the "Holy Ghost" and vice versa. These are not manifestations of God. These are 3 distinct Gods, and that's polytheism.
but there is one thing i dont agree with you, not all bukari hadith are fake, muslims scholars had examined the narrators of hadiths and determined which hadith is false, all authentic hadiths you can find in imam alalbany site
Surah 9.30 The JEWS CALL UZAIR A SON OF GOD, and the CHRISTIANS CALL CHRIST THE SON OF GOD. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. GOD'S CURSE BE ON THEM: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...
There are already several of my comments posted long ago, that haven't appeared. If I had to guess, I would guess you are a coward, unlike your Muslim brothers that allow all posts and video responses, by all people, immediately.
Picking and choosing comments is the same as lying, or what you might call taqiyyah, or lying in the way of Allah.
I have just approved all of your comments. The reason why there was a delay is because I was not online when you submitted them. I do not spend 24 hours a day on Youtube. I have a life you know.
Islam does not prescribe "taqiyya". The Holy Quran says that if you are persecuted because of your beliefs, then you can hide them. It's a very logical and humane law. The Holy Quran strictly prohibits lying.
It's Christianity actually that teaches "taqiyya" or lying. "But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am I also still being judged as a sinner?" [Romans 3:7]
So Christianity allows you to lie to advance your agenda!!!
Rom 3:8 And not [rather], (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
The passage says the reverse. For a Christian to pretend that good can come from doing evil is what the Crusades were about. Rape, pillage and plunder as Christian posers.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Yet it's OK for a Muslim to deny he is a Muslim under threat.
More Islamic apostasy? You say you have proven Jesus is no more than a prophet, but doesn't Islam teach that Mary was a virgin, and God impregnated her with Jesus?
No, Islam teaches that Issa was just a prophet. It's true that it says that he was born miraculously, but it was not God Who impregnated Mary. He was born in such a miraculous way a a sign to the Jews. The Holy Quran strictly declines the deity of Jesus and Trinity.
Denying the 3 personages of God is why Islam is a stand-alone religion. Allah curses Christians and Jews too. But God isn't schizophrenic and bi-polar.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us A SON IS GIVEN: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and HIS NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Exodus 31:3 And I have filled him with the SPIRIT OF GOD,...
None impregnated Mary. If god wants to do a things, He just says "Be", and it is. God just made Mary pregnant.
Saying that God is 3 personages is downright polytheist and insulting to God. A God worthy of worship is One and Only. If there is a schizophrenic and bipolar "god", it is the Christian "God".
God only curses specific people of Christians and Jews. Only those who disobeyed Him.
Both Isaiah 9:6 and Exodus 31:3 do not speak of Jesus. Jesus is nothing in the Old Testament.
1 John 2:22...HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
There are 47 verses that refer to Jesus as "the Son of God" and a plethora that refer to him as simply THE Son. Not just another son of God. The only begotten of the father:
beget
1. To father; sire.
2. To CAUSE TO EXIST or occur; produce:
You believe that when God said "be" Mary became pregnant with Jesus. Cause to exist?
Islam is the only religion that elevated prophet Issa (Or Jesus). This is very respectful and logical and seriously I do not care whether you consider it "antichrist" or not.
There are more than 100 passages that refer to Jesus as "Son of Man"!!
Jesus is not the only son of God in the Bible. There are many more people in the Bible who are called the "Sons of God".
Yes, I do believe that when God said "be" Mary became pregnant with Jesus. This is how God operates. He just says be, and it is!!
Satan offered all the KINGDOMS of the earth to Jesus, not the earth.
These kingdoms became satan's property at Adam's fall.
Jesus didn't take the bait, but He never disputed satan's ownership.
Not surprisingly the goal of antichrist Islam is conquest of the kingdoms of the world, and imposition of Islamic sharia law. In other words, the goal of Islam is conquest and possession of satan's world.
You either misunderstand or ignore my point. My point is that Satan would not bother offering Jesus the kingdoms of the earth if Jesus was God. Satan tried to tempt Jesus because Jesus was merely a prophet, a man, who could be tempted by such a very lucrative offer. Whether Jesus accepted the offer or not is not the point here. The point is that Jesus could not have been God, just a prophet like Muhammed, Moses, Abraham etc...
Islam is not "antichrist". How could it be "antichrist" when it glorified prophet Issa? The real "antichrists" are the Christians who portray Jesus as a liar, a hypocrite and a coward in the Gospels.
Muslims want Islamic laws for themselves. They do not want to impose on anybody else. You also seem to have a very distorted view of Islamic laws, which is very predictable from a Christian.
How could Islam be "Satanic" if its goal is to conquer and possess "Satan' world"?
I really can't do the approval delay in my comments being posted. It is wasting my time.
The reason Muslims have to screen and censor comments, is the same fear of the truth that made Mohammed not even let them be friends with Christians and Jews.
I probably won't be able to continue on this basis.
Many Muslims automatically allow comments to be posted. The Holy Quran does not prevent muslims from being friends with Christians and Jews. It only asks us not to take them as authority on religion (Awliyaa), and so your point of "fear of the truth" is wrong
Then why are you afraid to allow comments without censoring? It's about truth.
You are a Quranic apostate, as well as an Islamic apostate by ignoring the Hadith, and the ONLY Muslim that has expressed your incorrect exegesis to me:
Surah 5.51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
I am not afraid to allow comments without censoring. I allow every comment after checking that it does not include curses or insults. Every respectful comment, whether I agree or disagree with, will be posted. Do not worry about that.
I am a Muslim just like prophet Muhammed was. If prophet Muhammed was an "apostate", then I guess I am too!
Verse 5:51 is mistranslated. The word "Awleyaa" means religious leaders or clerics. It does not mean friends, which is "Sahib".
That's the point. You allow Christian posers who engage in obscene language to post, and likely censor valid posts by Christians that cause you and your false prophet difficulty.
Jews and Christians are submitted to God. Muslims have been deluded into believing they are.
Islam is antichrist:
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...
Islam is not "Mohammedanis". Muslims worship God Almighty, not prophet Muhammed.
Islam means peace and submission. It is a derivative of Peace (Salam) and Submission (Isteslam).
Jews are submitted to a crimianl "God". Christians are worse, they are submitted to a criminal mangod.
Muslims are submitted to the true God.
Muslims do not deny that prophet Issa was a genuine prophet, and thus Islam cannot be "antichrist". The real "antichrists" are those who made Jesus a mangod!
First off, you were never a Christian. Most who make this claim are exCatholics who were taught that a priest sprinkling water on an infant's head makes one a Christian. That's also why you can't understand the things of the spirit of God.
Islam means submission. Jews and Christians are submitted to God. Mohammedans have been deluded into believing they are. Islam is antichrist.
Jesus was tempted by satan. The difference is He didn't submit to him like Mohammed did.
I know that Catholicism is filled with medieval myths and that some Christians consider the Vatican an apostate church, but Catholics are Christians at the end. A Catholic would be outraged to see what you are writing here.
Islam means peace to everybody and submission to the One true God, Allah Almighty.
Jews are submitted to a criminal "God". Christians are submitted to another criminal mangod.
Muslims (Not "Mohammedans") believe in prophet Issa, so how you say Islam is "antichrist" is beyond me.
Satan did not even try to tempt prophet Muhammed in the first place, but he did with Jesus!
Muslims are Muslims (Peaceful and Submitters to God). They are not "Muhammedans". They do not worship prophet Muhammed, unlike Christians who worship Jesus.
Catholics would be outraged if you called them non-Christians. That's what I meant.
Hitler was a fundamentalist Christian. All the evidence says so. Amin Husseini was not a Mufti when he visited Hitler. He was not a Nazi either. He cooperated with Hitler just to stop the forced Jewish immigration to Palestine. Nothing more, nothing less.
Love is not just the way to be a Christian. There are billions of lovable non-Christians. Every Church has a different definition of what a Christian is.
If Jesus was God as Christians believe then Satan's attempt to tempt him does not make sense.
Satan tried to tempt Jesus with all the kingdoms of the world because Jesus was a mere prophet, a human, not God. God own everything, Jesus did not and thus Satan tried to tempt him.
The goal of Islam is to spread its message wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with in the better way.
The spirit of God should be understood without books really, but I will take your advice nonetheless.
What you are trying to do is excuse away the rape, pillage, plunder and bloody conquest of a 7th century false prophet, by comparing it with the very beginnings of the way God chose to reveal himself to mankind 3600 years ago.
The world was given a new covenant through the shed blood of Jesus Christ in the first century.
At least you seem to understand, unlike most Muslims, that Mohammedanism is a stand-alone religion. But then ignoring the hadiths makes you an Islamic apostate too.
Prophet Muhammed's message is the Holy Quran. He practiced and preached the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran forbids rape, pillage, plunder, pedophilia, terrorism along with the long list of other classic charges.
God must be eternal and Holy at all times. If he allowed rape, murder and terrorism for 1500 years then that's bad enough.
The covenant of God in the Old Testament was eternal. If Jesus indeed brought a new covenant then he was a false Messiah according to the Bible.
"Mohammedanism" is not a religion. The religion is Islam. Prophet Muhammed practiced and preached only the Holy Quran. If he was an apostate, then probably I am!
Christianity is simply indefensible. Christians just memorize few cliches about Jesus and that's it. I assure you that the vast majority of Christians have never read the Bible, and if they open their eyes and do so, they will be shocked to learn of all the crimes in it. They think that by cursing other religions and atheists, then their is fine and dandy!!!
No I am cool. The grouchies are those who say "stupid people won't go to Paradise", and that ignorant Christian apologists are "smarter than most people I have ever met"! If you know what I mean!
In all honesty, is a muslim world what you want to see? Do you really have a problem with women wearing sundresses and sandals, going out to lunch with their girlfriends? Do you really want to see teenagers who do stupid things have limbs cut off, hanged, stoned? That's sharia, and it is pushed everywhere muslims gain power. Is this what you really want? I'm just asking, not argueing.
A Muslim world based on the correct teachings of the Holy Quran is yes what I want to see.
I have no problem with women wearing sundresses and sandals, going out to lunch with their girlfriends. As long the dress is decent and covers their bosoms.
Amputation and stoning are Biblical laws, not Quranic, or as you termed it, Sharia laws. You have a very wrong idea about Islam because of the brainwashing by Christian apologists. I was like you too!
In the UK, Sweden, Canada, the muslims are trying to bring in Sharia, and that's the truth. Everywhere islam goes, they bring in sharia, and sharia is death to women, gays, and young people. You tell me sharia is not islam, and I say sharia "IS" islam. There is no separation of church and state in islam. This is documented and known by all. You sound so nice, and intelligent. Do you really want this for your kids, your wife? I have to speak because of what I've seen, and read. This is true.
In many Muslim countries, such as Egypt, Christians have their own religious sexist laws, so why cannot Muslims demand the same in Europe and North America?
The Holy Quran does not order death except to murderers. Where did you get your "death to women, gays, and young people." hogwash from? Christian apologists I am sure.
Sharia is fully compatible with modernity and democracy. You just have a very distorted view of it because of brainwashing.
i'm not here to attack you, but ur like one of thousands who always repeat the same propaganda.
i'm a muslim, and no i don't wear a viel on my head .. we don't have a probnlem with people wearing sunglasses, there are many muslims who are more fashinable than others :S
we have no problem with people doing their own thing, we just prefer that "WE" wear modestly. i wear normal clothes, some say its modest, some say it ain't modest enough.
"having limbs cut off, hanged, stoned"? is that what u all see? u only see PART of the truth. Many muslims nowadays have ruined our reputation by torturing other people, and these aren't our islamic teachings.
If a dude raped ur friend. Would u give him a lollipop or punish him? mmm i dunno u tell me
as I told you you stole my name LOL exchristian. But I decided to forget a little about my time of ignorance and look ahead. When I found Islam I denied the religion but the religion was in the back on my head for 7 years each day till I converted. I thank Allah for each day after that!
I am happy being a Muslim and I am more happy exposing arrogant Christian apologists (I wasted so many years being an apologist). I won't stay off your continent because it is not your continent! Your arrogance is sickening and typical of a Christian, and we will expose your cult more and more!
I think this video is more a case of a desperate muslim, than a christian.
Islam is evil, its followers prove that time and again.
barISLAMbaric 3 years ago
I am not desperate. I am just refuting an arrogant Christian.
What is your evidence that Islam is "evil"? Its followers? Muslims do not represent genuine Islam just like Christians do not represent Christianity etc...
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
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yewt 3 years ago
I agree.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
my reply to the vid. acording to the quran jesus and his mother were the only people in history to never be touched by satan.
God bless you and may peace be with you
Evade831 3 years ago
Where does the Quran say that Jesus and his mother were the only people in history to never be touched by Satan?
Actually where does the Quran say that anybody is touched by Satan?
God bless you and may you leave the horrors of Christianity.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
satan did not offer Jesus the Kingdom of Heaven, he offered Jesus women and wealth on the Earth. So your video is just bullshit!!
tombanks118 3 years ago
That depends on translations and manuscripts. Still, if Jesus was Godm who owns everything in the past, present and the future, why did Satan bother tempting him with wealth and women? The answer is because Jesus was a mere human who did not own these things.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
God was also tempted in the Old Testament. Satan tempting is not a determiner of divinity, but whether you overcome his temptation or not is. Muhammad was unable to do so.
He corrected himself after "Jibril" told him it wasn't from God, but he failed the test nonetheless.
Islam often musters these types of questions, amongst its followers since its theology is incomplete. The Quran provides an incorrect view on angelology and demonology, confusing spiritual nature, including God's.
Shaxarel 3 years ago
1. Yahweh was not tempted by Satan because Satan was intelligent enough to know that Yahweh could not be tempted. Yet Satan tried to tempt Jesus because he knew Jesus was a mere human who could be tempted. Whether Jesus resisted or not is irrelevant.
2. When was prophet Muhammad ever tempted by Satan?
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
3. Prophet Muhammad never corrected himself because there was nothing wrong with revelation. You are relying on fabricated Hadiths and Sira that were written 150-200 after the death of prophet Muhammad.
4. Christianity is theologically vacuous. There is no theology in Christianity. Islam, on the other hand, is full of theology.
5. How does the Quran provide an incorrect view on angelology and demonology or confuse spiritual nature including God's? Where is your evidence?
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
The Quran says that there are these beings called "jinn" who were created from a smokeless fire. This is a totally foreign concept not only in Judaism and Christianity, but also foreign to Judeo-Christian mythology.
In the Bible, Christ references how demons/satan are fallen angels. The Quran is ignorant of this, and also of the fact that these fallen angels referred to Jesus as the Son of God. Go figure.
Shaxarel 3 years ago 2
1. If the holy Quran says that Jinn are created from somkeless fire, then it is the truth. We do not care what the Bible says because it is not an authority to us or any other non-Christians. The Bible is full of myths like the ones you mentioned here.
2. Iblis was a fallen angel if you do not know!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
God was tempted by the Hebrew people during the Exodus, and by Satan in the book of Job. Jesus resisting Satan with Scripture is an example for us.
Human model for Christians = Jesus Christ; God in the flesh.
Human model for Muslims = Muhammad Abdullah; man who gave into satan's temptaion.
Shaxarel 3 years ago
1. Where is this exactly in Exodus and Job? I need to get the correct context and exegesis.
2. Jesus was not a human model. and surely he was not God in the flesh.
3. Muslims do not have a human model. Our only model is the holy Quran.
4. When did prophet Muhammad ever give into Satan's temptation? This is untrue. You probably have been deceived on this by Hayah channel with Botros and Rashid. They are known liars and have been debunked over and over all over the internet.
God bless you.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
this video is bullshit. mohammed was possed by satan on numerousd occassions as he stated/admitted in the sura. this is what salman rushdi wrote about in the Satanic Verses which have quotes form your garbage paki book!!!
tombanks118 3 years ago
1. The Quran never says that prophet Muahmmed was possessed. I challenge you to provide one verse that says such a thing.
2. Salman Rushdie quoted fake Hadiths and Sira in his stupid book, not Quranic verses.
3. The Quran is not a "garbage paki book" you ignorant and racist!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"And (O people!) your companion is not one possessed" [81:22]
"Nor is it the word of an evil spirit accursed."[81:25]
The Quran never says he was possessed, but those two verses seem to have been 'revealed' in order to defend him from people who suspected that he was...
Shaxarel 3 years ago
81:22 says that he was not mad. This proves nothing since Jesus himself was called crazy in the Gospels by several people. But unlike Jesus, all the people at the time of Muhammed believed in him later on. Jesus failed in this.
81:25 says that the Quran is not the word of Satan.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
if Jesus was a manGod then mohammed was stupid to copy verses from the Bible. So fuk allah u dumb paki pedo!!
tombanks118 3 years ago
Prophet Muhammed did not copy from that worthless and sorry excuse of "literature" called the Bible.
Jesus was a myth. He was not God. You Christians made him a mangod.
I am not "paki" and I am not "pedo" Your "god" that fucked Mary when she was 12 year old was a pedophile!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
worse than this concept, mohammed screwed aisha when she was 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is so incredibly disgusting, the moslems should have stoned him to death when he did such a revolting and filthy thing! what kind of sick lecherous pervert (in his 50's) would have sex with a 9 year old? (!!!!!!!!!!!)mohammed, that's who! there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to justify this heinous CRIME.
any moslem who doesn't walk away from mohammed after this shows God that he approves of this crime.
yewt 3 years ago
Prophet Muhammad did not marry Aysha when she was 9 year old. That is a myth. watch?v=y-DAMDfrn4E&feature=channel_page
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
You honestly have made your own version of Islam, since you disregard Hadith and Sira. Without them, you really have no basis for arguing a position for Muhammad's prophethood or how verses were revealed.
Remember, if you became a citizen in a Caliphate state, you would be subjected to what's in the Hadith and Sira--regardless of your own interpretations of the Islamic faith. I pray that you find Christ again in your heart, because you are tredding a dangerous path.
Shaxarel 3 years ago
1. I have not made my own version of Islam. I just follow the Islam that was revealed to prophet Muhammad and all the prophets before him. Prophet Muhammad was Quran only. Hadiths and Sira did not exist in his time. Many imams have been Quran only throughout the ages, including the infamous imam Abu Hanifa.
2. The basis for our faith is the holy Quran. Prophet Muhammad is not a central figure Islam like Christians falsely believe.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
3. He is only the last prophet in a long chain of prophets. If we prove that the holy Quran is the word of God, which we can, then prophet Muhammad becomes a genuine prophet by default.
4. We can certainly understand the verses of the holy Quran because the holy Quran explains itself by itself. We do not need the fakse Hadiths and Sira to understand them.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
5. I do not care what other Muslim countries or "Caliphate" do or say. They follow a distorted version of Islam. I do not live in a Muslim country. I follow the Islam of God, the holy Quran.
6. I do not need to find Christ because I have already found the God of Christ, Allah almighty. I pray that you find Him too because you are following a false and contradictory religion.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
what utter shit! to say that christians are only good at making muslims laugh, so tell me, what have moooooslims done for humanity except invent the suicide bomber? i'm not christian but i can tell the fruit of your tree is a rotten one.
wizeee 3 years ago
Suicide bomber is a Biblical invention. Read the story of Samson in the Hebrew Bible.
The fruit of Islam was a golden age from 700 AD to 1500 AD. The sorry state of many Muslims today is because you misunderstand Islam.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
you misunderstand islam, the sorry state of many moslems today is the fault of moslems. moslems always blame other people for their failings. moslems from mohammed's time sent out armies to destroy the west, the east and africa. moslems were finally defeated and got off easy. the ottomans returned the balkans to the dark ages, yet when the turks were tossed out of europe other european countries like france tried to prop them up instead of let them get the punishment they deserved.
yewt 3 years ago
1. I partailly agree with you that Muslims are to blame for their state today. However, you cannot deny external factors. It is very clear.
2. Muslims did not send armies to destroy the "west". Recent historical research proves that those armies were Pagan.
3. The Ottomans actually made the Balkans flourish. It is under Christianity that they were in the dark ages.
4. If the Turks did deserve "punishment" then what do the UK, France, Dutchland and the rest of the colonialists deserve?
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
whatever asshole, i'm not a christian.
wizeee 3 years ago
Good.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Arrogant, and ignorant, Christian apologists say that the parents of prophet Muhammed did not say an alleged Hadith of prophet Muhammed when they had intercourse, and that this, somehow , proves that prophet Muhammed was "possessed"!!
What an ignorant comment! EVEN YOUR OWN QURAN SAYS THAT HE WAS POSSESSED! YOU are DESPERATE when you try to falsihood hadiths that you don't like!
QuantumSelf13 3 years ago
Where does the Quran say that he was possessed you Christian liar?
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
My dear brother Narnia, as Ive said before, there's no use in talking to a wall, even if hard evidences are being presented to it. You are like wall, with a billboard saying this and that, but you dont have the ability to receive the response of those who read it. You keep on preaching everywhere, dont you ever think that our own apologetics are also applicable to you? Just like what you think of the holy spirit for us? Well, the holy spirit was not seen fit for Jimmy Swaggart and the rest.
cRossZhaker 3 years ago
ex, you are obviously not a former christian. if you were you would understand that the reason the world is full of bloodshed, greed and hatred is because the world is satan's. the bible acknowledges this, it says the world WILL BECOME Christ's in the future (Rev 11:15). Now, mohammed was tempted in this same way (given kingdoms for worshiping satan) and he gave in, that's why he received an empire, a bloody, murdering empire that is still causing terror and evil today. God's?--you blaspheme!
yewt 3 years ago
Believe me dear I know the Bible more than you or your sheep brothern here.
You also avoid the topic. If Jesus was indeed God who owns everything, the past and the present and the future, why did Satan even bother tempting him? The l;ogical answer is because Jesus was a mere human who could have been tempted by such an offer.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
i'm an exchristian, but this is a very simple question answered by the new testament when it says that jesus having been God, emptied himself making himself merely human. he had to pass every test as a human or he would have been an unfit sacrifice (the equivalent of an animal with blemishes, which is unfit for sacrifice). and he had to have been God originally because otherwise, his life would not be worth the lives of the entire human race. the biblical god required such a sacrifice.
yewt 3 years ago
Your problem is that you interpret the Hebrew Bible according to the Greek Bible, when actually it should be vice versa.
The God of the Hebrew Bible is not human, and thus Jesus was a false god. The Hebrew Bible is clear that through repentance sins will be forgiven, without a need to send his "son" as a sacrifice for the human race. This is one of the reasons I left Christianity, because it contradicts the Hebrew Bible. It is internally contradictory.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
God took on human form several times in the Old Testament--so your argument has no standing. He also made sacrifice a requirement of the law--without it Israel cannot atone for other nation's sins, or their own unintentional sins, and is why the current form of Judaism is utterly pointless, since the Temple was destroyed and no more sacrifices can be carried out.
Christ is from the order of Melchizedek, who offered Himself as a sacrifice for the world. You seem unread in the Prophets.
Shaxarel 3 years ago
1. There is a difference between taking form and being a human being in essence. You have no point here.
2. The Jesus sacrifice contradicts the sacrifice laws in the Hebrew Bible. Thus Christianity is false according to the Bible. Go read the Pentateuch. You seem unlearned in it.
3. The laws of Moses (Mitzvot) are eternal according to Yahweh.
4. Jesus was not the descendant of David, which is an essential requirement ot be the Messiah. Thus he was a false Messiah according to the Bible.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
cRossZhaker : You have all the ability to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit....but it is not because you are a muslim. It's because the Holy Spirit speaks directly to sinners.
TheNarniaLampPost 3 years ago
The Holy Spirit (Or Ghost?) is a myth that Christians invented.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
ExChristian, you said christians invented the Holy Spirit ('Ghost' is archaic English and incorrect), but the bible says:
Genesis 1:2--And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
That is the Holy Spirit, mentioned in the 2nd verse of the bible, thus for your statement to be true, the author of Genesis would have to be a christian. the Holy Spirit is mentioned many times in the old testament, however, it is not a person. It is the substance, attitude, holiness and power of God.
yewt 3 years ago
In Christianity the Holy Spirit is the third person in the Trinity. In the Hebrew Bible that is incorrect. The Spirit of God in the Hebrew Bible is the attitude of God, not a person of a Trinitarian "Godhead". Thus the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament as you Christians disparagingly call it, disproves Christianity.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
you are correct regarding the trinity, except that "christians" who believe the trinity are not followers of jesus but followers of the catholic church. nothing in the new testament supports the idea that the holy spirit is a person. rather, since mary was found "of child of the Holy Spirit", it equates the Holy Spirit with the Father. the holy spirit is thus merely the power that the Father used to project himself and conceive the Son. the catholics get their trinity idea from paganism.
yewt 3 years ago
Protestants and Orthodox also believe in the trinity. They consider the "holy spirit" a god too.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Allah's Revealed Eternal Truthwhen Arabic Text is presented:
وَجَعَلۡنَا عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِہِمۡ أَكِنَّةً أَن يَفۡقَهُوهُ وَفِىٓ ءَاذَانِہِمۡ وَقۡرً۬اۚ
وَإِذَا ذَكَرۡتَ رَبَّكَ فِى ٱلۡقُرۡءَانِ وَحۡدَهُ ۥ وَلَّوۡاْ عَلَىٰٓ أَدۡبَـٰرِهِمۡ نُفُورً۬ا ٤٦
And We place upon their hearts veils lest they should understand it, and in their ears a deafness; and
when thou makest mention of thy Lord in the Qur'an alone, they turn their backs in aversion. (Q. 17: 46)
magik4ucifucan 3 years ago
I agree with all those things said in this video, especially the last one. These desperate christian apologists who came from different christian sects and denomination are really hilarious. To name a few, we have Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Marvin Gorman, Anis Shorrosh and the next one in line, Joseph Smith. I just can't wait for the very much anticipated humiliation of you Jay. Beware...
cRossZhaker 3 years ago
Very true.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
The hadith you claim is inauthentic was quoted from Muslim Student Association website. Are they non-Muslims?! I think you're the liar.
Tamar1973 3 years ago
I am not lying. The Muslim Student Association are Muslims but they have a wrong understanding of Islam.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
islamandthetruth . com/jesus . htm
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
The Hebrew Bible never speaks of Jesus. I recommend these 2 websites for detailed information on Jesus in the Hebrew Bible.
JewsForJudaism . org
KosherJudaism . org
KosherJudaism . org/forum/
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Christians don't need to take "cheap shots" at Islam. The Quran does it all on it's own.
Surah 4.157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus...BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them...FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-
Heb10:29 OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing...
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
"Christians don't need to take "cheap shots" at Islam. The Quran does it all on it's own."
Prove it.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"Surah 4.157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus...BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them...FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-
Heb10:29 OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing..."
The Bible is of no authority to us. We do not believe in it.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
snf
ali921812 3 years ago
OK I will have a look at it, but believe me, Hadiths are unauthentic.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"A triune "God" is still polytheism. It's complex and schizophrenic. So even if your "God" is still "3 in 1", that's still polytheism."
Since Islam recognizes God, and God's Spirit, then by the yardstick with which Islam measures Christianity, Islam is polytheist, believing in two Gods. God and His Spirit. "two in one".
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
No, you are wrong here. The Spirit of God is Angel Jibreel (Gabriel). He is an Angel, and not God.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Please excuse me for being so late in approving your comments PeteWaldo. I also could not approve your video response because I could not find it!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
It's OK. I will repost the video.
But you don't believe that it is the angel Gabriel that was put in Mary. You believe she carried Allah's spirit into Mary right? You call Jesus Ruhullah, or Allah's spirit.
Christians believe in God, and God's Spirit, and God manifest in the flesh in Jesus Christ.
Muslims accuse polytheism.
Muslims believe in God, and God's Spirit, and God's Spirit made flesh in Jesus Christ. (Ruhullah)
Muslims claim monotheism.
Do you see how hypocritical that is?
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
"It's OK. I will repost the video.
But you don't believe that it is the angel Gabriel that was put in Mary. You believe she carried Allah's spirit into Mary right? You call Jesus Ruhullah, or Allah's spirit."
True, but Muslims do not call Jesus "Ruhullah" or Allah's spirit. He is just a prophet.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"Christians believe in God, and God's Spirit, and God manifest in the flesh in Jesus Christ.
Muslims accuse polytheism."
Christians believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Muslims rightfully accuse them of polytheism.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"Muslims believe in God, and God's Spirit, and God's Spirit made flesh in Jesus Christ. (Ruhullah)
Muslims claim monotheism."
Wrong.
Muslims believe in God alone.
We also believe in His angels and prophets. The Holy Spirit is angel Gabriel. Also, Muslims do not believe in God's Spirit made flesh in Jesus. That's just plain wrong and un-Islamic.
"Do you see how hypocritical that is?"
There is hypocrisy as I explained.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
The terms "trinity", "triune" or "three persons/personages" and such, are church TERMS that come from doctrine, that perhaps haven't served the church very well.
God IS. His name is I AM. (Exodus 3:14)
Perhaps more easily understood as God, and manifestations of God.
That is, the ways in which God chose to reveal Himself to different people at different times.
Manifest is also a scriptural term.
manifest
1) to make manifest or visible or known what has been hidden or unknown,...
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
According to the New Testament, trinity is 3 distinct yet inseparable "Gods".
I do agree that the Books of the Jews (Hebrew Bible) understand God as absolutely One, but the New Testament is a different story!
In the New Testament, you read Jesus (The supposed "Son of God") talking to the "Father" and the "Holy Ghost" and vice versa. These are not manifestations of God. These are 3 distinct Gods, and that's polytheism.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"According to the New Testament, trinity is 3 distinct yet inseparable "Gods"."
Where do you find the term "trinity" in the New Testament, or your claim?
I already showed you we don't have to go to the Old Testament to understand there is one God:
Mark 12:29...The Lord our God is one Lord: 32...for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
As far as "supposed" "Son of God" the bible has over a hundred verses that declare that. Old Testament and New.
islamandthetruth . com/jesus . htm
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
"Where do you find the term "trinity" in the New Testament, or your claim?"
I know that it's a non-Biblical term, but that's how Christians believe. It's illogical I know.
"I already showed you we don't have to go to the Old Testament to understand there is one God:
Mark 12:29...The Lord our God is one Lord: 32...for there is one God; and there is none other but he:"
3 distinict Gods that form one God. The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"As far as "supposed" "Son of God" the bible has over a hundred verses that declare that. Old Testament and New.
islamandthetruth . com/jesus . htm"
The Old Testament never speaks of Jesus. The "son of man" phrase is mentioned far more than the "son of God" in the New Testament.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
but there is one thing i dont agree with you, not all bukari hadith are fake, muslims scholars had examined the narrators of hadiths and determined which hadith is false, all authentic hadiths you can find in imam alalbany site
salam752 3 years ago
I do believe that a Muslim should only follow the Holy Quran alone.
Bukhari and Ibn Isaac etc... were written after the death of prophet Muhammed by 150-200 years, and thus they cannot be authentic.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
wonderful my brother, great video indeed
salam752 3 years ago
cool nick name
Kite207 3 years ago
most christians cant stomach the truth and invents lies about our true religion
enkkad 3 years ago
Surah 9.30 The JEWS CALL UZAIR A SON OF GOD, and the CHRISTIANS CALL CHRIST THE SON OF GOD. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. GOD'S CURSE BE ON THEM: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
The Holy Quran says that Issa (Not Jesus) was a true prophet.
It also denies the God has a son, which would be an insult to God. You should be ashamed of the fact that your "God" has a "son"!!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
There are already several of my comments posted long ago, that haven't appeared. If I had to guess, I would guess you are a coward, unlike your Muslim brothers that allow all posts and video responses, by all people, immediately.
Picking and choosing comments is the same as lying, or what you might call taqiyyah, or lying in the way of Allah.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
I have just approved all of your comments. The reason why there was a delay is because I was not online when you submitted them. I do not spend 24 hours a day on Youtube. I have a life you know.
Islam does not prescribe "taqiyya". The Holy Quran says that if you are persecuted because of your beliefs, then you can hide them. It's a very logical and humane law. The Holy Quran strictly prohibits lying.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
It's Christianity actually that teaches "taqiyya" or lying. "But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am I also still being judged as a sinner?" [Romans 3:7]
So Christianity allows you to lie to advance your agenda!!!
No comment!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Rom 3:8 And not [rather], (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
The passage says the reverse. For a Christian to pretend that good can come from doing evil is what the Crusades were about. Rape, pillage and plunder as Christian posers.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Yet it's OK for a Muslim to deny he is a Muslim under threat.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
He still sanctioned lying in Philippians.
And the Crusaders were Catholics = Christians.
Matt 10:33 does not deny a Christian from denying his identity under threat. Life must take precedence over anything else.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
More Islamic apostasy? You say you have proven Jesus is no more than a prophet, but doesn't Islam teach that Mary was a virgin, and God impregnated her with Jesus?
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
No, Islam teaches that Issa was just a prophet. It's true that it says that he was born miraculously, but it was not God Who impregnated Mary. He was born in such a miraculous way a a sign to the Jews. The Holy Quran strictly declines the deity of Jesus and Trinity.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Who impregnated the virgin Mary then?
Denying the 3 personages of God is why Islam is a stand-alone religion. Allah curses Christians and Jews too. But God isn't schizophrenic and bi-polar.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us A SON IS GIVEN: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and HIS NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Exodus 31:3 And I have filled him with the SPIRIT OF GOD,...
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
None impregnated Mary. If god wants to do a things, He just says "Be", and it is. God just made Mary pregnant.
Saying that God is 3 personages is downright polytheist and insulting to God. A God worthy of worship is One and Only. If there is a schizophrenic and bipolar "god", it is the Christian "God".
God only curses specific people of Christians and Jews. Only those who disobeyed Him.
Both Isaiah 9:6 and Exodus 31:3 do not speak of Jesus. Jesus is nothing in the Old Testament.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"Saying that God is 3 personages is downright polytheist and insulting to God. A God worthy of worship is One and Only."
In the reply video I somewhat agree.
Mark 12:29...The Lord our God is one Lord 32...for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
John 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.
"God only curses specific people of Christians and Jews. Only those who disobeyed Him."
Not so. He curses Christians and Jews for recognizing the Son of God. This is the spirit of antichrist.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
A triune "God" is still polytheism. It's complex and schizophrenic. So even if your "God" is still "3 in 1", that's still polytheism.
God does not curse the Jews and Chrisians for taking "sons of God". He just says that they are wrong on this. Nothing more, nothing less.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
No more NEED be said. Islam is antichrist.
1 John 2:22...HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
There are 47 verses that refer to Jesus as "the Son of God" and a plethora that refer to him as simply THE Son. Not just another son of God. The only begotten of the father:
beget
1. To father; sire.
2. To CAUSE TO EXIST or occur; produce:
You believe that when God said "be" Mary became pregnant with Jesus. Cause to exist?
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
Islam is the only religion that elevated prophet Issa (Or Jesus). This is very respectful and logical and seriously I do not care whether you consider it "antichrist" or not.
There are more than 100 passages that refer to Jesus as "Son of Man"!!
Jesus is not the only son of God in the Bible. There are many more people in the Bible who are called the "Sons of God".
Yes, I do believe that when God said "be" Mary became pregnant with Jesus. This is how God operates. He just says be, and it is!!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Satan offered all the KINGDOMS of the earth to Jesus, not the earth.
These kingdoms became satan's property at Adam's fall.
Jesus didn't take the bait, but He never disputed satan's ownership.
Not surprisingly the goal of antichrist Islam is conquest of the kingdoms of the world, and imposition of Islamic sharia law. In other words, the goal of Islam is conquest and possession of satan's world.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
You either misunderstand or ignore my point. My point is that Satan would not bother offering Jesus the kingdoms of the earth if Jesus was God. Satan tried to tempt Jesus because Jesus was merely a prophet, a man, who could be tempted by such a very lucrative offer. Whether Jesus accepted the offer or not is not the point here. The point is that Jesus could not have been God, just a prophet like Muhammed, Moses, Abraham etc...
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Islam is not "antichrist". How could it be "antichrist" when it glorified prophet Issa? The real "antichrists" are the Christians who portray Jesus as a liar, a hypocrite and a coward in the Gospels.
Muslims want Islamic laws for themselves. They do not want to impose on anybody else. You also seem to have a very distorted view of Islamic laws, which is very predictable from a Christian.
How could Islam be "Satanic" if its goal is to conquer and possess "Satan' world"?
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
I really can't do the approval delay in my comments being posted. It is wasting my time.
The reason Muslims have to screen and censor comments, is the same fear of the truth that made Mohammed not even let them be friends with Christians and Jews.
I probably won't be able to continue on this basis.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
I screen comments before posting them because many Christians try to spam my videos. Look at my channel. I allow all of their obscene remarks there.
I also have to wait for my comments to be approved on other Christians' videos, so it's fair deal really.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Many Muslims automatically allow comments to be posted. The Holy Quran does not prevent muslims from being friends with Christians and Jews. It only asks us not to take them as authority on religion (Awliyaa), and so your point of "fear of the truth" is wrong
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Then why are you afraid to allow comments without censoring? It's about truth.
You are a Quranic apostate, as well as an Islamic apostate by ignoring the Hadith, and the ONLY Muslim that has expressed your incorrect exegesis to me:
Surah 5.51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
I am not afraid to allow comments without censoring. I allow every comment after checking that it does not include curses or insults. Every respectful comment, whether I agree or disagree with, will be posted. Do not worry about that.
I am a Muslim just like prophet Muhammed was. If prophet Muhammed was an "apostate", then I guess I am too!
Verse 5:51 is mistranslated. The word "Awleyaa" means religious leaders or clerics. It does not mean friends, which is "Sahib".
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
That's the point. You allow Christian posers who engage in obscene language to post, and likely censor valid posts by Christians that cause you and your false prophet difficulty.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago 2
No dear. I allow everybody to post his opinion at my channel, whether dumb or smart.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
What you call Islam is Mohammedanism.
Islam means submission.
Jews and Christians are submitted to God. Muslims have been deluded into believing they are.
Islam is antichrist:
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
Islam is not "Mohammedanis". Muslims worship God Almighty, not prophet Muhammed.
Islam means peace and submission. It is a derivative of Peace (Salam) and Submission (Isteslam).
Jews are submitted to a crimianl "God". Christians are worse, they are submitted to a criminal mangod.
Muslims are submitted to the true God.
Muslims do not deny that prophet Issa was a genuine prophet, and thus Islam cannot be "antichrist". The real "antichrists" are those who made Jesus a mangod!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
First off, you were never a Christian. Most who make this claim are exCatholics who were taught that a priest sprinkling water on an infant's head makes one a Christian. That's also why you can't understand the things of the spirit of God.
Islam means submission. Jews and Christians are submitted to God. Mohammedans have been deluded into believing they are. Islam is antichrist.
Jesus was tempted by satan. The difference is He didn't submit to him like Mohammed did.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
I know that Catholicism is filled with medieval myths and that some Christians consider the Vatican an apostate church, but Catholics are Christians at the end. A Catholic would be outraged to see what you are writing here.
Islam means peace to everybody and submission to the One true God, Allah Almighty.
Jews are submitted to a criminal "God". Christians are submitted to another criminal mangod.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Muslims (Not "Mohammedans") believe in prophet Issa, so how you say Islam is "antichrist" is beyond me.
Satan did not even try to tempt prophet Muhammed in the first place, but he did with Jesus!
Muslims are Muslims (Peaceful and Submitters to God). They are not "Muhammedans". They do not worship prophet Muhammed, unlike Christians who worship Jesus.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
A Catholic wouldn't really be "outraged". They know what protestants understand as "believer baptism". They follow doctrines of men.
There is no instance of infant head sprinkling serving as baptism in the bible.
Hitler wasn't a Christian either. However his buddy was the Mufti of Jerusalem. Hitler's army had two divisions of Islamic Jew haters.
There is only one way to tell a Christian:
John 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
Catholics would be outraged if you called them non-Christians. That's what I meant.
Hitler was a fundamentalist Christian. All the evidence says so. Amin Husseini was not a Mufti when he visited Hitler. He was not a Nazi either. He cooperated with Hitler just to stop the forced Jewish immigration to Palestine. Nothing more, nothing less.
Love is not just the way to be a Christian. There are billions of lovable non-Christians. Every Church has a different definition of what a Christian is.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Jesus was tempted by satan. The difference is that He didn't submit to him like Mohammed did.
Satan offered Jesus all the KINGDOMS of the world. They became satan's property at Adam's fall.
Jesus didn't take the bait, but He never contested satan's ownership.
That's why the goal of Islam is to possess all the kingdoms of the world.
They are satan's property.
I'd highly recommend a good conservative bible handbook. You can't expect to understand the things of the spirit of God.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
If Jesus was God as Christians believe then Satan's attempt to tempt him does not make sense.
Satan tried to tempt Jesus with all the kingdoms of the world because Jesus was a mere prophet, a human, not God. God own everything, Jesus did not and thus Satan tried to tempt him.
The goal of Islam is to spread its message wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with in the better way.
The spirit of God should be understood without books really, but I will take your advice nonetheless.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
What you are trying to do is excuse away the rape, pillage, plunder and bloody conquest of a 7th century false prophet, by comparing it with the very beginnings of the way God chose to reveal himself to mankind 3600 years ago.
The world was given a new covenant through the shed blood of Jesus Christ in the first century.
At least you seem to understand, unlike most Muslims, that Mohammedanism is a stand-alone religion. But then ignoring the hadiths makes you an Islamic apostate too.
PeteWaldo 3 years ago
Prophet Muhammed's message is the Holy Quran. He practiced and preached the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran forbids rape, pillage, plunder, pedophilia, terrorism along with the long list of other classic charges.
God must be eternal and Holy at all times. If he allowed rape, murder and terrorism for 1500 years then that's bad enough.
The covenant of God in the Old Testament was eternal. If Jesus indeed brought a new covenant then he was a false Messiah according to the Bible.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"Mohammedanism" is not a religion. The religion is Islam. Prophet Muhammed practiced and preached only the Holy Quran. If he was an apostate, then probably I am!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
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mebeur 3 years ago
you know what is funny I always get people yelling and ranting garbage you say SHOW me the truth if you speak with truth and they run away!
onemuslimvoice 3 years ago
Christianity is simply indefensible. Christians just memorize few cliches about Jesus and that's it. I assure you that the vast majority of Christians have never read the Bible, and if they open their eyes and do so, they will be shocked to learn of all the crimes in it. They think that by cursing other religions and atheists, then their is fine and dandy!!!
Pray for those lost souls.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
I think you are very grouchy today.
Belle19700 3 years ago
No I am cool. The grouchies are those who say "stupid people won't go to Paradise", and that ignorant Christian apologists are "smarter than most people I have ever met"! If you know what I mean!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
In all honesty, is a muslim world what you want to see? Do you really have a problem with women wearing sundresses and sandals, going out to lunch with their girlfriends? Do you really want to see teenagers who do stupid things have limbs cut off, hanged, stoned? That's sharia, and it is pushed everywhere muslims gain power. Is this what you really want? I'm just asking, not argueing.
Belle19700 3 years ago
A Muslim world based on the correct teachings of the Holy Quran is yes what I want to see.
I have no problem with women wearing sundresses and sandals, going out to lunch with their girlfriends. As long the dress is decent and covers their bosoms.
Amputation and stoning are Biblical laws, not Quranic, or as you termed it, Sharia laws. You have a very wrong idea about Islam because of the brainwashing by Christian apologists. I was like you too!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
In the UK, Sweden, Canada, the muslims are trying to bring in Sharia, and that's the truth. Everywhere islam goes, they bring in sharia, and sharia is death to women, gays, and young people. You tell me sharia is not islam, and I say sharia "IS" islam. There is no separation of church and state in islam. This is documented and known by all. You sound so nice, and intelligent. Do you really want this for your kids, your wife? I have to speak because of what I've seen, and read. This is true.
Belle19700 3 years ago
In many Muslim countries, such as Egypt, Christians have their own religious sexist laws, so why cannot Muslims demand the same in Europe and North America?
The Holy Quran does not order death except to murderers. Where did you get your "death to women, gays, and young people." hogwash from? Christian apologists I am sure.
Sharia is fully compatible with modernity and democracy. You just have a very distorted view of it because of brainwashing.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Hi belle19700
i'm not here to attack you, but ur like one of thousands who always repeat the same propaganda.
i'm a muslim, and no i don't wear a viel on my head .. we don't have a probnlem with people wearing sunglasses, there are many muslims who are more fashinable than others :S
we have no problem with people doing their own thing, we just prefer that "WE" wear modestly. i wear normal clothes, some say its modest, some say it ain't modest enough.
its between an individual and god
architectlicious 3 years ago
belle19700
"having limbs cut off, hanged, stoned"? is that what u all see? u only see PART of the truth. Many muslims nowadays have ruined our reputation by torturing other people, and these aren't our islamic teachings.
If a dude raped ur friend. Would u give him a lollipop or punish him? mmm i dunno u tell me
architectlicious 3 years ago
as I told you you stole my name LOL exchristian. But I decided to forget a little about my time of ignorance and look ahead. When I found Islam I denied the religion but the religion was in the back on my head for 7 years each day till I converted. I thank Allah for each day after that!
onemuslimvoice 3 years ago
Hopefully more of us ex-Christians will continue to voice their opinions and expose Christianity and its mangod.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
If you are happy being a muslim, then do be one. Just stay off my continent.
Belle19700 3 years ago
I am happy being a Muslim and I am more happy exposing arrogant Christian apologists (I wasted so many years being an apologist). I won't stay off your continent because it is not your continent! Your arrogance is sickening and typical of a Christian, and we will expose your cult more and more!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago