@LordWellington15 The C7 is Canadian... You make no sence, first you say we should get our own equipment, then go off and say how we should go back to the FN FAL or adopt the SA80. Bullpup is nice, but id rather stick with the C7
4 years in 2 CER, and the past 7 years 3RCR. In case you didnt notice, the reserves have played a large role in Afghanistan, and are highly trained for overseas combat, and are also put through BMQ, SQ and their respected trade qualification. Having worked with many reserve units in my career, they have proved extremely knowledgeable and trained. Don't bash reserves for no reason.
@argotech1 Okay first of all theres a reason why they call them weekend warriors, and btw your the first reg force ive ever heard of saying this. lets compare training as you were saying theyre highly trained for overseas cmbt. bmq res= 3 weeks reg= 14 weeks dp1 res=2 weeks reg=14 weeks . yes they may do workup training with us but trust me its only a drop in the bucket. i dont know about petawawa and ur rcr bunch but theres a major difference in us ppcli soldiers and mo
@ellis962 I know many PPCLI aswell, and i know were not too different. Sure they do not have the same length of basic training and dp1, but they do spend their time concentrating on specific training for a long time (CQB, Offensive ops, Defensive ops etc.) and they do a good job for many of them working full time jobs during the week, and training on weekends and specific parading nights.
@ellis962 I worked a year with 4RCR (reserve unit) and sure, they aren't able to do most things as good as us regs, but you have to give them credit for all that devotion (as many of them work 40 hour weeks, PLUS weekend training).
Why can't Canada gets it own equitment. Why do we have to use a Canadian version of the M16? Why can't we go back to the FN FAL or adopt the British Army SA80. Why are becoming so Americanized. We are closer to Britain than anything else.
C7=m16A2. Really not much of a difference. In fact all weapons used by NATO countries are comparable quality. AUG, F88 about the same. LA85 FAMAS about the same. I haven't found 1 rifle I consider FAR superior to all others. Makes for a boring debate, I know, but that's how I see them. They're all going to have benefits & limitations. I like the AR for ergonomics & a recently lowered price, light weight+accuracy r good too but that can be said about many military rifles.
@wowkidlrn2play My local Armouries, but the city was doing something called a Career Fair and my class got to go down there. There were lots of things from Fire trucks to Un marked Police Cruisers Swat Guys with their weapons to the Military with Tents set up and letting people try on their helmets and putting on a vest. They even had a C7 and some other Machine gun there I asked if I could hold it and he looked over my should and said yes quickly. From looks it seems very light actually.
@wowkidlrn2play in the canadian army cadets you can have a chance you can hold one if you are in a armoury or such and the reserve unit does a show and tell or they do have camps and apparently during 3rd year camp you get to shoot one
My only complaints were the plastic clips used in the 90`s...it seems we resolved that issue. Also clip was prone to mis-feed if it was loaded fully. I would leave the clip two short of capacity to rectify this...for competition shooting I prefered the peep sights, which were phased out around 1995 when the rifle was mounted with a scope. The scope worked very well as bino`s and had limited night enhancement but I found there was something wonky about placing shots precisely down range.
@Novie00 Same here 27 - 29 rounds per mag is what we loaded. Irony is now plastic/polamer mags are now becoming more popular like the pmag. When I got out of the Reserves, there was a joint Canada US war games exercise, Canadian Army, Navy, AF, USMC, US NAVY MARCOT 97 and during an open house the solider from the RCR had a metal mag and I said oh they got rid of the plastic mags. The Marine next to him couldn't believe we had plastic mags.
@Novie00 Not sure if it's true or not but I heard they wanted to use plastic so in combat you could stomp the mag to destroy and the enemy couldn't use it. Seeing as the enemy would have used AK style rifles a C7 mag wouldn't be of any use. Do you know who made the plastic mags back in the d ay?
@biggboysouth ya... That's sad and all, but it's a varient of the M16 made for Canada's harsh weather conditions. Basicly the M16, with a bit better duribility and the option to go full auto.
@CHOSENMARINE m16 a3 is fully automatic new m16 a4 is rumored to have both burst an auto, and from what I've researched(by no means am i a pro in firearms) the m16 series weapons have excelled in cold weather. From what i know about the c7/8s is they have "more durable plastic" and a cold hammer forged barrel. These things do not enhances the weapons reliability. I've also heard they have tougher recievers and bolts but I hear 50% of people say is not true and the other 50% say otherwise.
@CHOSENMARINE aswell if you didnt know Colt owns Diemaco(the company that makes the c7/8) Honestly I like both and to me there both the exact same weapon with different furniture on it since its a modular system. Sorry to call you out so rudely is just a personal peev of mine for some reason.
@CHOSENMARINE Nope you ignorant nationalist, they are exactly the same! Only the American version has full picitany rails, which is why I'd rather the American version.
@CHOSENMARINE The M16 is the first model of the AR-15 you dumbfuck! The U.S now have M16A2's (which're the exact same thing as the Diemaco weapons). Try to add punctuation & start sentences with a capital letter, ending with a period. That way you wont seem as dumb as you are.
wtf are you doing bud? We're on the internet. You don't ask somebody what they know over the internet, they could have gone and looked it up (and the US has actually since used the M16A3 and M16A4, but what ever). It's obvious you know you lost this argument, why else would you randomly start questioning my punctuation? I've been in more than one fight over the internet there buddy.
P.S. google search "how do I use the internet because I'm a retard".
@kullwarrior Regular US Personnel use full picittany rails, SF uses picittany rails too. Flat Tops don't allow you to position it wherever it suits your needs. Just sayin'.
@TheBigDead0ne The C7 can have picatinny rails added to the top of the rifle if need be as it's rare to need to mount anything to the top of the barrel like that. No need to make the gun all loltacticoolz like the US does.
@nblax41 You honestly don't seem to know anything about handling firearms, do you? Have you shot at least an air rifle in your life? Didn't think so. It's not to look cool dipshit, it's to fit the needs of ALL the troops. Only Canadian SF use picitany rails.
@TheBigDead0ne You could mount certain sights further forward, but the forearm usually has some play in it, and so your aiming point shifts between reassemblies. The Norwegians originally intended to mount Aimpoints on the RIS forearm of the HK416, but that was changed. Most Norwegian troops merely mount a vertical grip on the forearm, apart from those in Afghanistan. No protective plates have been issued either, so the rails are damaged in the field. They're not cheap either...
@ghunt1023 Canadian Soldiers actually can buy picitany rails I found out now. The only real differences between the M16A2 & C7A2 is the fact one is polymer/metal, and the other is plastic/metal.
@CHOSENMARINE actually the c7a2 is NOT the m16 it was based of the ar15 . some things where changed to make it that little bit more reliable . so its not the m16 . have a nice day
I always thought the Canadians have changed the direct impingement gas system to a piston gas system. I also didn't know that the Canadians was the first to use flat top rail mounts so basically the A3 and later variants was influenced by this.
hmm i wonder if they will change there weapon system to something else like for example Aug or PSD or ACR perhaps not PSD since the round isn't with NATO but its still a powerful weapon
@esh325 The C7A2 is better then the M16A4. I am in the Canadian Forces and I would choose the C7 over the M16 anyday. Not saying i don't like the M16 tho because i do, I am just saying that the C7A2 is better then the M16A4.
@esh325 actually, the c7 is older than the M16A4. Its based on an improve version of the M16E1. it came in service around the same time than the M16A2. The C7 is of the M16 family, but its the best of this family.
I was reading that the C7 has a unique gas operating system that eliminates the use of an operating rod. Can someone please explain to me what that means?
@abdihassanawali It uses gas and pressure to cycle the bolt once it's been fired instead of a mechanical rod to push it back. It's called direct impingement.
@NateC0le - damn straight. wer the ones who DON'T have 73% of our population overweight, and Canadians commit an average of 136 murders a year. the US: 11,571 a year
@usmc5131 We do get them, in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Croatia, anywhere we are sent... I even served beside Marines in Bosnia. Canadian Airborne Staff Sergeant here (red beret!) & OOORAHH!!!!
@TheSpritz0 Canadian Airborne Staff Sergeant? I'm confused, are you a Canadian In the US Military? Because the Canadian Army doesn't have staff sergeants that a US Rank.
@NovaScotiaNewfie not as a range NCO, when you are permanently assigned to a shooting range as an instructor we were called Staff Sergeants, assigned to BASE STAFF, I have no idea if this is used today as I was out by late '93.
Wow man, try not to make Canadian troops look like ignorant morons, will ya? Comparing a C7 to a S&W 29 is an assault rifle to a revolver. It's like comparing a pedal car to an ACTUAL car. Geez.......but hands down still one of the best personal weapon systems in the world.
why would anybody compare this weapon to an Uzi or a Magnum? All three are completely different weapon systems are are adapted for different environments.
@ReachDeep1 they have there pros and cons, hes using all the averages from the Pros side and chooses out which are more suited in any environment, i get there specifically made for different operations but again hes using the Good / Affecting ability of these weapons
@TheBacmoh Most probably personnal comfort. That's my reason anyways. I like the grip for when marching, but when shooting, i rather use the mag (standing/kneeling) or the handguard (prone)
@gloryglorybarcelona It depends on what part of Canada they are from. With some Canadians, I have a very hard time distinguishing their accent from an American.
@gloryglorybarcelona How could anybody possibly say "sounds like Americans". There are SOOO many different accents here in the states that it would be impossible to say "this is an American accent". It's rather funny, some people who have traveled a lot here can tell what area of the US they are from just by slight differences in their voices. And yeah, nobody cares if they insult a Canadian or not.
@ReachDeep1 - well i was referring to Americans in general. i can depict a Georgia accent from an Alabama accent from a Mississippi accent to even a Missouri accent, for example. its the same thing with Canada, we have different accents. grant u, theyre just not so many as in the States. Canada is a very proud country with a very proud culture. so, making fun of us, even for jokes, is taken upon us very seriously. ud feel the same way about ur country now, wouldnt u?
@gloryglorybarcelona lol no, if I took all insults to the US seriously, I would go completely insane as we are among the most disliked in the world (because we're such an influence on the globe of course, but that's be sides the point).
@Anghellik9 - not to some extent. the US has a LOTof various accents all over the plains, mountains, marshes, and fields it has. in Canada, to my assumption, i can only count about a handful of accents (main ones being Western accent, and Eastern, including the Maritimes). but i have to say the northern US states do sound similar to us. Minnesota, Wisconsin, North Dakota, etc. i do my fair share on observing accents all over the world, so take into part that my information is quite correct
@gloryglorybarcelona If you're saying that we don't sound like "Americans" because of those regional accents, then no American sounds like "Americans" because someone from North Boston doesn't sound remotely like someone from East Texas. My point was that the most Canadian accents (excluding newfoundlander, french canadians etc.) sound like many Americans, particularly the northern states.
@Anghellik9 - we might sound the same to the unfixed ear, but trust me that there are many discrepancies between even the most similar Canadian and American accents
how about giving credit wheeree credit is due, did you know often you come home from war to be homeless, ive seen it, do you know how the egyptian revolution even started? did you know in canada there are prisoners of war in your hospitals, and people who are over 30 who have never had the right to their own person, torture is legal here, the police and psychiatrists are terrorists, can you come home and comit genocide? please, and in all ohnesty reaching out for amnesty is futile,
I fucking hate the C7A2. fucking cocking handle and the bullshit double fire selector get caught on everything. My tac vest likes to cock my rifle for me. The A1 was better.
@blair91234 okay u dont need to get mad because i was wrong u fucktard americunt peice of shit looks like ur from idiot parents and u were raised wrong ignorant bitch..that will probally make u rage over ur keyboard cuz it seems like u have some rage problems...
@viper10011 Harper is the only prime minster to have brains and balls he stood up to the USA do you have any idea how long it's been since Canada had a prime minster like that his just a great leader
@viper10011 I find it hilarious that the liberals got less seats this year, than the NDP did last year XD. Justice......And the block lol, FINALLY THEY'RE GONE! and no more elections for four years!!!!!!!
@TheCFarmy BUDDY I QUALIFIED ON THE C7A1. DONT MATTER WHAT ELSE THEY PUT ON THE OUTSIDE, IF THE MECHANICS OF THE RIFLE ARE FLAWED ITS DOOMED REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIGHTS AND GRIPS AND OTHER FANCY SHIT THEY ADD TO IT, IN THE END, ITS WHAT MAKES THE BULLETS FLY AND THE BADGUYS DIE.
@HUEJOHNSON I qualified on it too, as well as carried it in Afghanistan. I think the DI system is great. In fact, I found that if sand and debris got inside the weapon, the DI system would "blow" the foreign matter out of the receiver. In other words, the more I shot, the better it worked. The GP system adds excess weight and is just another set of parts that can fail and render the weapon useless. The 416 is just an M4 without the advantages of an M4.
@jarvy251 DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF, THE 416 IS THE M4 WITHOUT THE ADVANTAGES? WHAT ADVANTAGES ARE THOSE? JAMMING EVERY COUPLE OF DOZEN ROUNDS. THE 416 IS SUPERIOR IN EVERYWAY TO THE ORIGINAL. HELL ITS THE XM8 PACKAGED IN THE AR PLATFORM. THE DI SYSTEM BLOWS OUT THE DEBRIS, WHILE IT DEPOSITS CARBON AND OTHER PARTICLES ON THE FIRING MECH. THE GP SYSTEM ADDS NEGLIGEBLE WEIGHT, BUT OFFERS SO MANY MORE ADVANTAGES. WHAT MOVING PARTS THE ROD AND PISTON. ID GO 416 ANYDAY OVER THE C7 AND DEF THE M4.
@HUEJOHNSON The carbon deposits when firing live rounds are minimal, and are easily taken care of with even weekly maintenance in my experience. GP has numerous problems because the AR-15 style system was not designed for it. Aside from the weight, when it fires it applies downwards pressure in the bolt carrier group, which causes damage to the carrier and to the buffer tube. If the piston is bent even slightly during maintenance, the weapon is rendered useless.
@jarvy251 THE AR SYSTEM YOUR REFERING TO IS THE AR-15. IF YOU TOOK A PISTON CONVERSION KIT TO ANYONE OF THOSE DERIVATIVE I CAN SEE PROBLEMS ARISING. THE HK 416 IS A COMPLETELY REDESIGNED SYSTEM FROM IT. EVERYTHING IN THAT GUN IS TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS. WHERE WOULD THERE BE DOWNWARDS PRESSURE. ITS ALL BACK AND FORTH, NOT DOWN. WHAT GP SYSTEM HAVE YOU BEEN USING. THE PISTON IS A SMALL PART, UR TALKIN BOUT THE PUSH ROD. THATS BUILT TO WITHSTAND PRESSURE FROM FIRING. U MAKE IT SOUND FLIMSY
And to say that the 416 is some sort of totally re-engineered weapon is false. I've examined the parts, the only real changes they've made are adding the piston, and changing the bolt carrier key to accept the piston. Oh, they also changed the pistol grip to a less comfortable angle and moved the positions of the take-down pins to make HK parts incompatible with other components. Like I said, it removes all the advantages an AR normally has.
In terms of performance, the operation of the piston negatively affects accuracy. As you've probably noticed, as an AR-15 style rifle, all the moving parts and direction of recoil are all nicely lined up, from muzzle to buttplate. Adding a piston on top that slams back and forth throws it all off balance. With a 416, you've gained a slightly lower maintenance time at the expense of everything that makes the rifle effective.
@jarvy251 THE PISTON DOESNT AFFECT ACCURACY AT ALL. IT MOVES ALONG WITH THE BOLT. AS THE BOLT MOVES FORWARD AFTER THE EJECTION CYCLE, SO TO DOES THE PUSH ROD AND PISTON. WONT NOTICE IT AT ALL. TRUST ME, THE MAINTANCE TIME USING A DI SYSTEM IS TREMENDOUS. HAVE YOU EVER TRIED CLEANING AN M16. IT TAKES FOREVER CAUSE ALL THE CARBON FOULING IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THE 416, ALL U HAVE TO DO IS CLEAN THE PISTON AND THE BARREL. THATS IT. TRUST ME ON THIS, IM TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE.
I guess you missed the part where I carried the C7 in Afghanistan. Of course I've cleaned one, I've done it for years. The blanks rounds leave a mess, true, but live rounds are absolutely fine. I also see you don't understand physics. When the piston pushes back on where the carrier group's gas key normally is, rather that sliding back and forth as with a DI system, the back of the carrier group scrapes the bottom of the buffer tube.
@jarvy251 SO YOU'RE ALSO A SOLDIER, I NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO CARRY THE C7 IN AFGHAN, I GOT OUT BEFORE THE WAR STARTED. FOR AS LONG AS I WAS IN THE C7 WAS MY BEST FRIEND. SO I WAS TOO LATE. IF HK ENGINEERED THE PUSH ROD TO CAUSE THAT KIND OF PROBLEM FOR THE BUFFER TUBE, IT WOULD BE A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE RIFLE, YET U NEVER HEAR ANYONE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. MUST MEAN U GOT SOME KIND OF INSIDE INFO, THAT I HIGHLY DOUBT. THE WAY U MAKE IT SOUND IS THAT PUSH ROD FLEXES AGAINST WHERE THE GAS KEY
@jarvy251 IS AND CAUSES SOME DOWNWARDS MOTION IN THE CARRIER. I DONT THINK SO. ITS ALL BACK AND FORTH OTHERWISE THAT PUSH ROD WOULD WEAR OUT AND SNAP. I GUARANTEE ITS ONE OF THE STRONGEST COMPONENTS OF THE SYSTEM, IT HAS TO BE SINCE IT HAS THE MOST STRAIN ON IT. THE 416 FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WAS OFFERED AS AN UPPER FIRST THEN HK, MADE THE LOWER AND COMPLETED THE WEAPON. THE 416 TOOK THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF THE XM8 AND WAS REPACKAGED INTO THE AR CONFIG. THE 416 HAS THE ADVANTAGES THE M16 LACKS
@HUEJOHNSON There is a consensus that lower case letters are more legible. Also you are not using them properly since every letter in every post you have made is capitalized.
@HUEJOHNSON I will fight to the death to promote proper use of the English language, or any language for that matter as capitals are universal in the Latin alphabet. Which means i will respond to all your comments and continue the flamewar until i see one post of yours that shows that you passed first grade.
@DuhyatheSecond WHAT ARE YOU THE UTUBE SCHOOL MARM. THIS IS WHAT USING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROPERLY LOOKS LIKE. I CHOOSE TO TYPE IN CAPS, BECAUSE THATS WHAT I CHOOSE. THERE'S NO NEED TO START A PETTY ARGUMENT OVER NOTHING. IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO CONTINUE, BY ALL MEANS, DO SO. YOU'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING OF VALUE TO THIS, JUST MAKING AN OBNOXIOUS FOOL OF YOURSELF.
@HUEJOHNSON I believe that you sir are making the fool of yourself by typing in allcaps. Allcaps are usually linked to shouting and so i read all your posts as if you are shouting. Your text also looks like every other 12 year old who doesn't know that a button exists beside A that makes their text 90% more legible. All-capital printing retards speed of reading to a striking degree in comparison with lower case and is not liked by readers. I am fighting for everyone who has to read your shit.
@DuhyatheSecond ACTUALLY IF YOU READ MY SO CALLED "SHIT", ITS VERY INFORMATIVE. I WAS WAITING FOR SOME DOUCHE SUCH AS YOURSELF TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE AND WHINE ABOUT MY CAPS. LIKE I SAID PAL, WHINE AWAY.
@HUEJOHNSON I couldn't read your "shit" because of the slower rate at which humans can read text that is all capitalized. You sir have found a way to have messy writing in text.
@DuhyatheSecond GREAT, THAT MESSY WRITING CAME WITH THE PHD IN LINGUISTICS. READING IT SLOWLY MEANS THAT YOU DONT MISREAD THE POST, AND YOU UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY.
THE DI SYSTEM IS THE ACHILLES HEAL OF THIS GREAT WEAPON. THE CF SHOULD SERIOUSLY UPGRADE TO HK 416'S. GP OPERATED, EXTREMELY RELIABLE AND DURABLE. MINIMAL TRAINING COSTS DUE TO SIMILAR APPEARANCE AND HANDLING CHARACTERISTICS. UNBELIEVABLE WEAPON. IF NOT THAT, THEN AT LEAST UPGRADE THE C7 INTO A GP SYSTEM AND CLASSIFY IT THE C7A3. THAT WOULD BE WHAT U CALL AN UPGRADE, NOT JUST SOME COSMETIC CHANGES BUT AN ACTUAL CHANGE THAT MATTERS. SAVES LIVES AND DROPS MORE BAD GUYS.
@HUEJOHNSON well man this sounds good, but the hk416 used in (sorry i forgot the place but its pretty damn cold) are not performing well in low temperatures, the gas pistom uses to sutck hard thanks to ice, considering that the AR plattaform was not designed to use a piston, it could be a great problem (you can easely smash the charging handle form an AK with your foot but the thing comes harder with an AR) in this case the DI imprigment sistem has showed to be fairly adecuated in snow.
@curseofa5r5a WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS FROM. ITS TRUE NORWAY HAS CHANGED FROM THE C7A1 TO THE HK 416. ARE YOU FORGETTING WHO BUILT THAT RIFLE. H&K, AND WHERE ARE THEY? IN GERMANY. DO YOU KNOW HOW COLD IT IS THERE. I THINK THEY DESIGNED IT FOR ENVIRONMENTS LIKE THAT. EITHER WAY ANY MOVING PARTS THAT GET MOISTURE ON THEM IN A COLD ENVIRONMENT ARE GOIN TO FREEZE REGARDLESS. I DOUBT THAT WAS THE CASE THOUGH. YOU SHOULD CHECK THAT SHIT OUT TO VARIFY ITS VALIDITY.
@HUEJOHNSON its not aobut the place they where made at but the place they where meant to be used at, do you remeber what a HK 416 is? at the begining this was just an upper reciever for m4 carabines, a product that aimed for US military forces wich operate in places where sand and fouling where more problematic than frezzing parts, obiusly the norway army did a lot of testing on this gun, but there are some reporst of probles with the piston speacilly in very cold climates
how do you compare a c7 with handguns and smg?
reallink2000 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
Theres gotta be away to eliminate some of the powder coming out of the barrel
JPaizer2 1 week ago
@LordWellington15 The C7 is Canadian... You make no sence, first you say we should get our own equipment, then go off and say how we should go back to the FN FAL or adopt the SA80. Bullpup is nice, but id rather stick with the C7
pxdfover 2 weeks ago
umm question,how can you compare a c7 with a uzi and a dirty harry magnum?
i mean their different specs of weapons
reallink2000 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
pos reservist, wouldnt know what to do with his rifle if shit hit the fan..
ellis962 2 weeks ago
@ellis962
Like you would know ..
argotech1 2 weeks ago
@argotech1 yeah i would actually im infantry there buds
ellis962 2 weeks ago
@ellis962
Yes, so am i.
4 years in 2 CER, and the past 7 years 3RCR. In case you didnt notice, the reserves have played a large role in Afghanistan, and are highly trained for overseas combat, and are also put through BMQ, SQ and their respected trade qualification. Having worked with many reserve units in my career, they have proved extremely knowledgeable and trained. Don't bash reserves for no reason.
argotech1 2 weeks ago
@argotech1 Okay first of all theres a reason why they call them weekend warriors, and btw your the first reg force ive ever heard of saying this. lets compare training as you were saying theyre highly trained for overseas cmbt. bmq res= 3 weeks reg= 14 weeks dp1 res=2 weeks reg=14 weeks . yes they may do workup training with us but trust me its only a drop in the bucket. i dont know about petawawa and ur rcr bunch but theres a major difference in us ppcli soldiers and mo
ellis962 2 weeks ago
@ellis962 I know many PPCLI aswell, and i know were not too different. Sure they do not have the same length of basic training and dp1, but they do spend their time concentrating on specific training for a long time (CQB, Offensive ops, Defensive ops etc.) and they do a good job for many of them working full time jobs during the week, and training on weekends and specific parading nights.
argotech1 2 weeks ago
@ellis962 I worked a year with 4RCR (reserve unit) and sure, they aren't able to do most things as good as us regs, but you have to give them credit for all that devotion (as many of them work 40 hour weeks, PLUS weekend training).
Cheers bud.
argotech1 2 weeks ago
Why can't Canada gets it own equitment. Why do we have to use a Canadian version of the M16? Why can't we go back to the FN FAL or adopt the British Army SA80. Why are becoming so Americanized. We are closer to Britain than anything else.
LordWellington15 3 weeks ago
Denmark use it as well
KickassCommando 3 weeks ago
funny how he says c7 is more reliable than the AK,
AfKman101 4 weeks ago
@AfKman101 agreed . the c7s gas system isn't the best by any means . but you keep that thing clean and it will do the job ya need it for
ArrowSmith95 4 weeks ago
i wonder if the c7 has a rail handguard version
AfKman101 4 weeks ago
@AfKman101 its a full rifle length handguard so you can put rails on it . at the yes or no of your PWo or CO
ArrowSmith95 4 weeks ago
1:18 im sorry but the ak 47 is also reliable and easy to use and that is why it is the gun that has killed the most people
himoms1001 1 month ago
C7=m16A2. Really not much of a difference. In fact all weapons used by NATO countries are comparable quality. AUG, F88 about the same. LA85 FAMAS about the same. I haven't found 1 rifle I consider FAR superior to all others. Makes for a boring debate, I know, but that's how I see them. They're all going to have benefits & limitations. I like the AR for ergonomics & a recently lowered price, light weight+accuracy r good too but that can be said about many military rifles.
oeyesea 1 month ago
m16 has better handguards, but c7 have better plastic fourniture that won't break in the artic.
i'd choose the c7. with all the training we have in the artic the C7 is the best gun we could actually get.
R3dTigerM40A3 1 month ago 2
thunder gun at 0:48........ lol i know its not but just kinda looks like one
kilroy920 2 months ago
Kullwarrior, you're everywhere!
BasicWedge 2 months ago
Rileys!
TheNuclearBadger 3 months ago
In air cadets we also have the option to take a marksman ship course and try c7's.
justinpeter100 3 months ago
I wish these could be used by civilians.
wowkidlrn2play 4 months ago
@wowkidlrn2play I got to hold one and I'm not even in the Military :D
Majoraspirit 4 months ago
@Majoraspirit WHERE?!?!?!?!
wowkidlrn2play 4 months ago
@wowkidlrn2play My local Armouries, but the city was doing something called a Career Fair and my class got to go down there. There were lots of things from Fire trucks to Un marked Police Cruisers Swat Guys with their weapons to the Military with Tents set up and letting people try on their helmets and putting on a vest. They even had a C7 and some other Machine gun there I asked if I could hold it and he looked over my should and said yes quickly. From looks it seems very light actually.
Majoraspirit 4 months ago
@wowkidlrn2play in the canadian army cadets you can have a chance you can hold one if you are in a armoury or such and the reserve unit does a show and tell or they do have camps and apparently during 3rd year camp you get to shoot one
capt5656 3 months ago
@Majoraspirit Back in highschool, I got to carry a C7 rifle when I was in the army. It was awesome.
GhostSniper1981 4 months ago
lol c9 my baby
mrwallet 4 months ago
My only complaints were the plastic clips used in the 90`s...it seems we resolved that issue. Also clip was prone to mis-feed if it was loaded fully. I would leave the clip two short of capacity to rectify this...for competition shooting I prefered the peep sights, which were phased out around 1995 when the rifle was mounted with a scope. The scope worked very well as bino`s and had limited night enhancement but I found there was something wonky about placing shots precisely down range.
Novie00 5 months ago
@Novie00 Same here 27 - 29 rounds per mag is what we loaded. Irony is now plastic/polamer mags are now becoming more popular like the pmag. When I got out of the Reserves, there was a joint Canada US war games exercise, Canadian Army, Navy, AF, USMC, US NAVY MARCOT 97 and during an open house the solider from the RCR had a metal mag and I said oh they got rid of the plastic mags. The Marine next to him couldn't believe we had plastic mags.
NovaScotiaNewfie 4 months ago
@Novie00 Not sure if it's true or not but I heard they wanted to use plastic so in combat you could stomp the mag to destroy and the enemy couldn't use it. Seeing as the enemy would have used AK style rifles a C7 mag wouldn't be of any use. Do you know who made the plastic mags back in the d ay?
NovaScotiaNewfie 4 months ago
Wait, you would choose the C7 over an AK-47 based on reliability? Might want to rethink that one lol..
dasmiffy5 5 months ago
C7 > M16 . Too bad nobody knows it...
CHOSENMARINE 5 months ago 17
@CHOSENMARINE I hate when people dont do their research. I guess ignorance is bliss
biggboysouth 3 months ago
@biggboysouth ya... That's sad and all, but it's a varient of the M16 made for Canada's harsh weather conditions. Basicly the M16, with a bit better duribility and the option to go full auto.
CHOSENMARINE 3 months ago
@CHOSENMARINE m16 a3 is fully automatic new m16 a4 is rumored to have both burst an auto, and from what I've researched(by no means am i a pro in firearms) the m16 series weapons have excelled in cold weather. From what i know about the c7/8s is they have "more durable plastic" and a cold hammer forged barrel. These things do not enhances the weapons reliability. I've also heard they have tougher recievers and bolts but I hear 50% of people say is not true and the other 50% say otherwise.
biggboysouth 3 months ago
@CHOSENMARINE aswell if you didnt know Colt owns Diemaco(the company that makes the c7/8) Honestly I like both and to me there both the exact same weapon with different furniture on it since its a modular system. Sorry to call you out so rudely is just a personal peev of mine for some reason.
biggboysouth 3 months ago
@biggboysouth C7/C8 are exactly the same as the current Armalite's.. Only it's green.
TheBigDead0ne 3 months ago
@CHOSENMARINE Nope you ignorant nationalist, they are exactly the same! Only the American version has full picitany rails, which is why I'd rather the American version.
TheBigDead0ne 3 months ago
@TheBigDead0ne if it was exactly the same, they woulden't re-name it you stupid basterd.
CHOSENMARINE 3 months ago
@CHOSENMARINE Rip-offs are always renamed. By the way, macho man, how's about you present some facts wise guy?
TheBigDead0ne 3 months ago
@TheBigDead0ne skip to 2:32 of the video. Get out of my face
CHOSENMARINE 3 months ago
@CHOSENMARINE The M16 is the first model of the AR-15 you dumbfuck! The U.S now have M16A2's (which're the exact same thing as the Diemaco weapons). Try to add punctuation & start sentences with a capital letter, ending with a period. That way you wont seem as dumb as you are.
TheBigDead0ne 3 months ago
@TheBigDead0ne
wtf are you doing bud? We're on the internet. You don't ask somebody what they know over the internet, they could have gone and looked it up (and the US has actually since used the M16A3 and M16A4, but what ever). It's obvious you know you lost this argument, why else would you randomly start questioning my punctuation? I've been in more than one fight over the internet there buddy.
P.S. google search "how do I use the internet because I'm a retard".
CHOSENMARINE 3 months ago
@CHOSENMARINE There is no M16A3 lol..
TheBigDead0ne 3 months ago
@TheBigDead0ne Yes there is, its M16A2 with full auto capability and flat top pictinny rail
It is used by US Navy Seals
kullwarrior 3 months ago
@kullwarrior Regular US Personnel use full picittany rails, SF uses picittany rails too. Flat Tops don't allow you to position it wherever it suits your needs. Just sayin'.
TheBigDead0ne 3 months ago
@TheBigDead0ne The C7 can have picatinny rails added to the top of the rifle if need be as it's rare to need to mount anything to the top of the barrel like that. No need to make the gun all loltacticoolz like the US does.
nblax41 2 months ago
@nblax41 You honestly don't seem to know anything about handling firearms, do you? Have you shot at least an air rifle in your life? Didn't think so. It's not to look cool dipshit, it's to fit the needs of ALL the troops. Only Canadian SF use picitany rails.
TheBigDead0ne 2 months ago
@TheBigDead0ne You could mount certain sights further forward, but the forearm usually has some play in it, and so your aiming point shifts between reassemblies. The Norwegians originally intended to mount Aimpoints on the RIS forearm of the HK416, but that was changed. Most Norwegian troops merely mount a vertical grip on the forearm, apart from those in Afghanistan. No protective plates have been issued either, so the rails are damaged in the field. They're not cheap either...
ghunt1023 1 month ago
@ghunt1023 Canadian Soldiers actually can buy picitany rails I found out now. The only real differences between the M16A2 & C7A2 is the fact one is polymer/metal, and the other is plastic/metal.
TheBigDead0ne 1 month ago
@CHOSENMARINE Nobody ? dude it is not exactly the same some updates ;)
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R3dTigerM40A3 1 month ago
@CHOSENMARINE to bad they're identical. It's just so that Colt can manufacture them in Canada.
Delete5550123 1 month ago
@CHOSENMARINE unless the c7 has a gas piston. i fail to see any improvement..
178thbattlegroup 1 month ago
@CHOSENMARINE Canadian sytle m16 eh?
32assass 4 weeks ago
@CHOSENMARINE actually the c7a2 is NOT the m16 it was based of the ar15 . some things where changed to make it that little bit more reliable . so its not the m16 . have a nice day
ArrowSmith95 4 weeks ago
@CHOSENMARINE ...it's a fuck of alot better than the garbage M16...
bisonturbo 3 weeks ago
@CHOSENMARINE its the same gun.....
grimreap22 2 weeks ago
i thought there'd be longer rails
AfKman101 5 months ago
I always thought the Canadians have changed the direct impingement gas system to a piston gas system. I also didn't know that the Canadians was the first to use flat top rail mounts so basically the A3 and later variants was influenced by this.
5687678 6 months ago
Also the general service weapon of the Dutch forces :)
Thank you Canada.
Awesome rifle.
wouter836 6 months ago 9
@wouter836 REALY? O:
CHOSENMARINE 5 months ago
@wouter836 your welcome :)
32assass 4 weeks ago
@wouter836 oh so the dutch forces also uses c7?
man our canadian weaponary is becoming popular!!!!!
reallink2000 3 weeks ago
When he compared to the AK on Reliability he messed that up AK Is Supremely reliable
AfKman101 6 months ago
hmm i wonder if they will change there weapon system to something else like for example Aug or PSD or ACR perhaps not PSD since the round isn't with NATO but its still a powerful weapon
AfKman101 7 months ago
C7A2 > M16A4
gloryglorybarcelona 7 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona In what way does the C7A2 beat the M16A4? From what I read, all it is just a slightly improved Canadian copy.
esh325 7 months ago
@esh325 - well u just answered ur own question. "slightly improved" :D
gloryglorybarcelona 7 months ago
@esh325 The C7A2 is better then the M16A4. I am in the Canadian Forces and I would choose the C7 over the M16 anyday. Not saying i don't like the M16 tho because i do, I am just saying that the C7A2 is better then the M16A4.
randomen2 7 months ago
@randomen2 I'm sure an American soldier would say the same thing about his rifle. Have you used an American made M16 or AR15?
esh325 7 months ago
@esh325 actually, the c7 is older than the M16A4. Its based on an improve version of the M16E1. it came in service around the same time than the M16A2. The C7 is of the M16 family, but its the best of this family.
cripto136 6 months ago
colt is american USA BABY
lalablablaification 7 months ago
I was reading that the C7 has a unique gas operating system that eliminates the use of an operating rod. Can someone please explain to me what that means?
abdihassanawali 7 months ago
@abdihassanawali It uses gas and pressure to cycle the bolt once it's been fired instead of a mechanical rod to push it back. It's called direct impingement.
nblax41 7 months ago
@nblax41
Thanks. Do you know of a rifle that does use a mechanical rod though?
abdihassanawali 7 months ago
@abdihassanawali AK-47
nblax41 7 months ago
@nblax41
Yeah I remember the design, makes sense. Thanks
abdihassanawali 7 months ago
@NateC0le - damn straight. wer the ones who DON'T have 73% of our population overweight, and Canadians commit an average of 136 murders a year. the US: 11,571 a year
gloryglorybarcelona 7 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona yeah u my new canada buddy
spidermouse37 7 months ago
Damn get some Canada oorah
usmc5131 8 months ago
@usmc5131 We do get them, in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Croatia, anywhere we are sent... I even served beside Marines in Bosnia. Canadian Airborne Staff Sergeant here (red beret!) & OOORAHH!!!!
TheSpritz0 7 months ago
@TheSpritz0 um you mean maroon not red as that would be an MP
Dozer2379 7 months ago
@Dozer2379 nobody on YouTube knows what "maroon" means so I have to dumb it down....
TheSpritz0 7 months ago
@TheSpritz0 Canadian Airborne Staff Sergeant? I'm confused, are you a Canadian In the US Military? Because the Canadian Army doesn't have staff sergeants that a US Rank.
NovaScotiaNewfie 3 months ago
@NovaScotiaNewfie not as a range NCO, when you are permanently assigned to a shooting range as an instructor we were called Staff Sergeants, assigned to BASE STAFF, I have no idea if this is used today as I was out by late '93.
TheSpritz0 3 months ago
@usmc5131 We say HUA here. Pro Patria!
SuperLusoCanuck 4 months ago
Wow man, try not to make Canadian troops look like ignorant morons, will ya? Comparing a C7 to a S&W 29 is an assault rifle to a revolver. It's like comparing a pedal car to an ACTUAL car. Geez.......but hands down still one of the best personal weapon systems in the world.
CanadianGuerrilla 8 months ago
@CanadianGuerrilla i think the interviwer was asking him to compaire the weapon to each other
MrRenegademovies 8 months ago
@MrRenegademovies
Oh, yeah fair enough.
CanadianGuerrilla 8 months ago
why would anybody compare this weapon to an Uzi or a Magnum? All three are completely different weapon systems are are adapted for different environments.
ReachDeep1 8 months ago 22
@ReachDeep1 yeah who ever asked those questions probably only know weapons through movies or video games.
BringerOfD 7 months ago
@ReachDeep1
Most likley the guys who interviewed him asked him to compare them.
1315229 6 months ago
@ReachDeep1 The C7 is more versatile.
koolade7000 6 months ago
@ReachDeep1 they have there pros and cons, hes using all the averages from the Pros side and chooses out which are more suited in any environment, i get there specifically made for different operations but again hes using the Good / Affecting ability of these weapons
AfKman101 6 months ago
@ReachDeep1 Propaganda purposes for people who don't know what those are.
7graywolf7 5 months ago
@ReachDeep1 Lol that would be like comparing a grenade to a Nuclear missile
TheLincolnWorld 4 months ago
@ReachDeep1 I think its a comparison for people who know nothing about guns.
VikingSpaceNinja 4 months ago
@VikingSpaceNinja Yes, and my comment is intended for those same people.
ReachDeep1 4 months ago
why dnt u use the grip when u shoot?
TheBacmoh 8 months ago
@TheBacmoh Most probably personnal comfort. That's my reason anyways. I like the grip for when marching, but when shooting, i rather use the mag (standing/kneeling) or the handguard (prone)
sniping 8 months ago
@sniping oh iight...thx for the answer bro.btw nice youtube name :D
TheBacmoh 8 months ago
Ahhh Canadians, look like Brits, sound like Americans.
XoDWeaver 9 months ago
@XoDWeaver - we definitely do NOT sound like Americans. say that to a Canadian, and they'll consider it an insult. i will forgive u tho :P
gloryglorybarcelona 9 months ago 25
@gloryglorybarcelona It depends on what part of Canada they are from. With some Canadians, I have a very hard time distinguishing their accent from an American.
esh325 7 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona How is it an insult?
TheRedDeadNerd97 7 months ago
@TheRedDeadNerd97 - because Canadians are not Americans... simple enough, eh?
gloryglorybarcelona 6 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona it really depends. Someone from toronto can sound alot like someone from buffalo or something
FrostyA17 5 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona How could anybody possibly say "sounds like Americans". There are SOOO many different accents here in the states that it would be impossible to say "this is an American accent". It's rather funny, some people who have traveled a lot here can tell what area of the US they are from just by slight differences in their voices. And yeah, nobody cares if they insult a Canadian or not.
ReachDeep1 5 months ago
@ReachDeep1 - well i was referring to Americans in general. i can depict a Georgia accent from an Alabama accent from a Mississippi accent to even a Missouri accent, for example. its the same thing with Canada, we have different accents. grant u, theyre just not so many as in the States. Canada is a very proud country with a very proud culture. so, making fun of us, even for jokes, is taken upon us very seriously. ud feel the same way about ur country now, wouldnt u?
gloryglorybarcelona 5 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona lol no, if I took all insults to the US seriously, I would go completely insane as we are among the most disliked in the world (because we're such an influence on the globe of course, but that's be sides the point).
ReachDeep1 5 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona actually we kind of do lol
Anghellik9 5 months ago
@Anghellik9 - not to some extent. the US has a LOTof various accents all over the plains, mountains, marshes, and fields it has. in Canada, to my assumption, i can only count about a handful of accents (main ones being Western accent, and Eastern, including the Maritimes). but i have to say the northern US states do sound similar to us. Minnesota, Wisconsin, North Dakota, etc. i do my fair share on observing accents all over the world, so take into part that my information is quite correct
gloryglorybarcelona 5 months ago
@gloryglorybarcelona If you're saying that we don't sound like "Americans" because of those regional accents, then no American sounds like "Americans" because someone from North Boston doesn't sound remotely like someone from East Texas. My point was that the most Canadian accents (excluding newfoundlander, french canadians etc.) sound like many Americans, particularly the northern states.
Anghellik9 4 months ago
@Anghellik9 - we might sound the same to the unfixed ear, but trust me that there are many discrepancies between even the most similar Canadian and American accents
gloryglorybarcelona 4 months ago
how about giving credit wheeree credit is due, did you know often you come home from war to be homeless, ive seen it, do you know how the egyptian revolution even started? did you know in canada there are prisoners of war in your hospitals, and people who are over 30 who have never had the right to their own person, torture is legal here, the police and psychiatrists are terrorists, can you come home and comit genocide? please, and in all ohnesty reaching out for amnesty is futile,
ImcallingJapan 9 months ago
nice vid Sgt
jailwalker 9 months ago
I fucking hate the C7A2. fucking cocking handle and the bullshit double fire selector get caught on everything. My tac vest likes to cock my rifle for me. The A1 was better.
largerPOTATO 9 months ago
@largerPOTATO I just "accidentaly" break my cocking handle, never have that problem.
Clarity01 9 months ago
c7 > m4
ramb0nat0r 9 months ago
2:35, did he say 1886? LOL
chaungo 9 months ago
I LOVE
CANADA
SuperAkira47 10 months ago
im in the army and i love this rifle
SHILOH589 10 months ago
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R3dTigerM40A3 10 months ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 shut the fuck up retard, all M-16s have flash hiders you retarded fuck.
blair91234 10 months ago
@blair91234 okay u dont need to get mad because i was wrong u fucktard americunt peice of shit looks like ur from idiot parents and u were raised wrong ignorant bitch..that will probally make u rage over ur keyboard cuz it seems like u have some rage problems...
R3dTigerM40A3 10 months ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 lol yes they do
curseofa5r5a 9 months ago
@viper10011 Harper is the only prime minster to have brains and balls he stood up to the USA do you have any idea how long it's been since Canada had a prime minster like that his just a great leader
TheCFarmy 10 months ago
@viper10011 I find it hilarious that the liberals got less seats this year, than the NDP did last year XD. Justice......And the block lol, FINALLY THEY'RE GONE! and no more elections for four years!!!!!!!
Rossco139 10 months ago
@viper10011 Vote conservative ^.^
Rossco139 10 months ago
@viper10011 we should separate from quebec then invade them just to piss them off
TheCFarmy 10 months ago
@TheCFarmy you must be 8 years old
snoopy3600 10 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON you've never shot a C7 A2 have do you know what else they come with the integrated soldiers system
TheCFarmy 10 months ago
@TheCFarmy BUDDY I QUALIFIED ON THE C7A1. DONT MATTER WHAT ELSE THEY PUT ON THE OUTSIDE, IF THE MECHANICS OF THE RIFLE ARE FLAWED ITS DOOMED REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIGHTS AND GRIPS AND OTHER FANCY SHIT THEY ADD TO IT, IN THE END, ITS WHAT MAKES THE BULLETS FLY AND THE BADGUYS DIE.
HUEJOHNSON 9 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON I qualified on it too, as well as carried it in Afghanistan. I think the DI system is great. In fact, I found that if sand and debris got inside the weapon, the DI system would "blow" the foreign matter out of the receiver. In other words, the more I shot, the better it worked. The GP system adds excess weight and is just another set of parts that can fail and render the weapon useless. The 416 is just an M4 without the advantages of an M4.
jarvy251 9 months ago
@jarvy251 DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF, THE 416 IS THE M4 WITHOUT THE ADVANTAGES? WHAT ADVANTAGES ARE THOSE? JAMMING EVERY COUPLE OF DOZEN ROUNDS. THE 416 IS SUPERIOR IN EVERYWAY TO THE ORIGINAL. HELL ITS THE XM8 PACKAGED IN THE AR PLATFORM. THE DI SYSTEM BLOWS OUT THE DEBRIS, WHILE IT DEPOSITS CARBON AND OTHER PARTICLES ON THE FIRING MECH. THE GP SYSTEM ADDS NEGLIGEBLE WEIGHT, BUT OFFERS SO MANY MORE ADVANTAGES. WHAT MOVING PARTS THE ROD AND PISTON. ID GO 416 ANYDAY OVER THE C7 AND DEF THE M4.
HUEJOHNSON 9 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON The carbon deposits when firing live rounds are minimal, and are easily taken care of with even weekly maintenance in my experience. GP has numerous problems because the AR-15 style system was not designed for it. Aside from the weight, when it fires it applies downwards pressure in the bolt carrier group, which causes damage to the carrier and to the buffer tube. If the piston is bent even slightly during maintenance, the weapon is rendered useless.
jarvy251 9 months ago
@jarvy251 THE AR SYSTEM YOUR REFERING TO IS THE AR-15. IF YOU TOOK A PISTON CONVERSION KIT TO ANYONE OF THOSE DERIVATIVE I CAN SEE PROBLEMS ARISING. THE HK 416 IS A COMPLETELY REDESIGNED SYSTEM FROM IT. EVERYTHING IN THAT GUN IS TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS. WHERE WOULD THERE BE DOWNWARDS PRESSURE. ITS ALL BACK AND FORTH, NOT DOWN. WHAT GP SYSTEM HAVE YOU BEEN USING. THE PISTON IS A SMALL PART, UR TALKIN BOUT THE PUSH ROD. THATS BUILT TO WITHSTAND PRESSURE FROM FIRING. U MAKE IT SOUND FLIMSY
HUEJOHNSON 9 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON
And to say that the 416 is some sort of totally re-engineered weapon is false. I've examined the parts, the only real changes they've made are adding the piston, and changing the bolt carrier key to accept the piston. Oh, they also changed the pistol grip to a less comfortable angle and moved the positions of the take-down pins to make HK parts incompatible with other components. Like I said, it removes all the advantages an AR normally has.
jarvy251 9 months ago
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In terms of performance, the operation of the piston negatively affects accuracy. As you've probably noticed, as an AR-15 style rifle, all the moving parts and direction of recoil are all nicely lined up, from muzzle to buttplate. Adding a piston on top that slams back and forth throws it all off balance. With a 416, you've gained a slightly lower maintenance time at the expense of everything that makes the rifle effective.
jarvy251 9 months ago
@jarvy251 THE PISTON DOESNT AFFECT ACCURACY AT ALL. IT MOVES ALONG WITH THE BOLT. AS THE BOLT MOVES FORWARD AFTER THE EJECTION CYCLE, SO TO DOES THE PUSH ROD AND PISTON. WONT NOTICE IT AT ALL. TRUST ME, THE MAINTANCE TIME USING A DI SYSTEM IS TREMENDOUS. HAVE YOU EVER TRIED CLEANING AN M16. IT TAKES FOREVER CAUSE ALL THE CARBON FOULING IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THE 416, ALL U HAVE TO DO IS CLEAN THE PISTON AND THE BARREL. THATS IT. TRUST ME ON THIS, IM TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE.
HUEJOHNSON 9 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON
I guess you missed the part where I carried the C7 in Afghanistan. Of course I've cleaned one, I've done it for years. The blanks rounds leave a mess, true, but live rounds are absolutely fine. I also see you don't understand physics. When the piston pushes back on where the carrier group's gas key normally is, rather that sliding back and forth as with a DI system, the back of the carrier group scrapes the bottom of the buffer tube.
jarvy251 9 months ago
@jarvy251 SO YOU'RE ALSO A SOLDIER, I NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO CARRY THE C7 IN AFGHAN, I GOT OUT BEFORE THE WAR STARTED. FOR AS LONG AS I WAS IN THE C7 WAS MY BEST FRIEND. SO I WAS TOO LATE. IF HK ENGINEERED THE PUSH ROD TO CAUSE THAT KIND OF PROBLEM FOR THE BUFFER TUBE, IT WOULD BE A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE RIFLE, YET U NEVER HEAR ANYONE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. MUST MEAN U GOT SOME KIND OF INSIDE INFO, THAT I HIGHLY DOUBT. THE WAY U MAKE IT SOUND IS THAT PUSH ROD FLEXES AGAINST WHERE THE GAS KEY
HUEJOHNSON 9 months ago
@jarvy251 IS AND CAUSES SOME DOWNWARDS MOTION IN THE CARRIER. I DONT THINK SO. ITS ALL BACK AND FORTH OTHERWISE THAT PUSH ROD WOULD WEAR OUT AND SNAP. I GUARANTEE ITS ONE OF THE STRONGEST COMPONENTS OF THE SYSTEM, IT HAS TO BE SINCE IT HAS THE MOST STRAIN ON IT. THE 416 FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WAS OFFERED AS AN UPPER FIRST THEN HK, MADE THE LOWER AND COMPLETED THE WEAPON. THE 416 TOOK THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF THE XM8 AND WAS REPACKAGED INTO THE AR CONFIG. THE 416 HAS THE ADVANTAGES THE M16 LACKS
HUEJOHNSON 9 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON If your not going to use capitals properly at least leave your caps lock off please.
DuhyatheSecond 8 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond THEY ARE BEING USED PROPERLY, DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD OVER NOTHING.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON There is a consensus that lower case letters are more legible. Also you are not using them properly since every letter in every post you have made is capitalized.
Now excuse me while i unwad my apparent panties.
DuhyatheSecond 8 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond THATS NICE, IM HAPPY YOU VOICED YOUR OPINION, ARE YOU DONE, NOW MOVE ALONG, ITS NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON I will fight to the death to promote proper use of the English language, or any language for that matter as capitals are universal in the Latin alphabet. Which means i will respond to all your comments and continue the flamewar until i see one post of yours that shows that you passed first grade.
DuhyatheSecond 8 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond WHAT ARE YOU THE UTUBE SCHOOL MARM. THIS IS WHAT USING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROPERLY LOOKS LIKE. I CHOOSE TO TYPE IN CAPS, BECAUSE THATS WHAT I CHOOSE. THERE'S NO NEED TO START A PETTY ARGUMENT OVER NOTHING. IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO CONTINUE, BY ALL MEANS, DO SO. YOU'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING OF VALUE TO THIS, JUST MAKING AN OBNOXIOUS FOOL OF YOURSELF.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON I believe that you sir are making the fool of yourself by typing in allcaps. Allcaps are usually linked to shouting and so i read all your posts as if you are shouting. Your text also looks like every other 12 year old who doesn't know that a button exists beside A that makes their text 90% more legible. All-capital printing retards speed of reading to a striking degree in comparison with lower case and is not liked by readers. I am fighting for everyone who has to read your shit.
DuhyatheSecond 8 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond ACTUALLY IF YOU READ MY SO CALLED "SHIT", ITS VERY INFORMATIVE. I WAS WAITING FOR SOME DOUCHE SUCH AS YOURSELF TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE AND WHINE ABOUT MY CAPS. LIKE I SAID PAL, WHINE AWAY.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON I couldn't read your "shit" because of the slower rate at which humans can read text that is all capitalized. You sir have found a way to have messy writing in text.
DuhyatheSecond 8 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond GREAT, THAT MESSY WRITING CAME WITH THE PHD IN LINGUISTICS. READING IT SLOWLY MEANS THAT YOU DONT MISREAD THE POST, AND YOU UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON Why don't you write for mentally fit readers instead of people who just skim over comments?
DuhyatheSecond 8 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond WHY DOES IT BOTHER YOU HOW I POST MY COMMENTS. IF I POSTED LIKE THIS, wOuLD iT bOtHeR yOu StIlL.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON I am done posting here, i'm pretty sure anyone who looks at this can discern a winner and a ass.
DuhyatheSecond 8 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond I THINK ITS GONNA BE HARD FOR YOU TO DISCERN SINCE YOU GOT YOUR HEAD UP YOURS.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
THE DI SYSTEM IS THE ACHILLES HEAL OF THIS GREAT WEAPON. THE CF SHOULD SERIOUSLY UPGRADE TO HK 416'S. GP OPERATED, EXTREMELY RELIABLE AND DURABLE. MINIMAL TRAINING COSTS DUE TO SIMILAR APPEARANCE AND HANDLING CHARACTERISTICS. UNBELIEVABLE WEAPON. IF NOT THAT, THEN AT LEAST UPGRADE THE C7 INTO A GP SYSTEM AND CLASSIFY IT THE C7A3. THAT WOULD BE WHAT U CALL AN UPGRADE, NOT JUST SOME COSMETIC CHANGES BUT AN ACTUAL CHANGE THAT MATTERS. SAVES LIVES AND DROPS MORE BAD GUYS.
HUEJOHNSON 10 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON well man this sounds good, but the hk416 used in (sorry i forgot the place but its pretty damn cold) are not performing well in low temperatures, the gas pistom uses to sutck hard thanks to ice, considering that the AR plattaform was not designed to use a piston, it could be a great problem (you can easely smash the charging handle form an AK with your foot but the thing comes harder with an AR) in this case the DI imprigment sistem has showed to be fairly adecuated in snow.
curseofa5r5a 9 months ago
@curseofa5r5a WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS FROM. ITS TRUE NORWAY HAS CHANGED FROM THE C7A1 TO THE HK 416. ARE YOU FORGETTING WHO BUILT THAT RIFLE. H&K, AND WHERE ARE THEY? IN GERMANY. DO YOU KNOW HOW COLD IT IS THERE. I THINK THEY DESIGNED IT FOR ENVIRONMENTS LIKE THAT. EITHER WAY ANY MOVING PARTS THAT GET MOISTURE ON THEM IN A COLD ENVIRONMENT ARE GOIN TO FREEZE REGARDLESS. I DOUBT THAT WAS THE CASE THOUGH. YOU SHOULD CHECK THAT SHIT OUT TO VARIFY ITS VALIDITY.
HUEJOHNSON 9 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON its not aobut the place they where made at but the place they where meant to be used at, do you remeber what a HK 416 is? at the begining this was just an upper reciever for m4 carabines, a product that aimed for US military forces wich operate in places where sand and fouling where more problematic than frezzing parts, obiusly the norway army did a lot of testing on this gun, but there are some reporst of probles with the piston speacilly in very cold climates
curseofa5r5a 9 months ago