The most 'Thunderbirds' -looking bit of hardware. I owned and ran a Matchbox one. Didn't The Stalwart use a detuned version of the motor from those handsome sports cars Alvis used to built till the mid 60s?
One of the problems of the Stalwart, as well as the Saracen and the Saladin, was that the central differential was not lockable. If the 3 wheels on one side all started slipping, you got stuck.
unless you want broken wrists, I'd suggest you hold the steering wheel correctly, -ie hands and thumbs on outside of wheel-rim only, not holding spokes....
@oilyboyMatt Yeah you're right, the guy must not have any idea what he is doing...seeing how he owns the thing and likely does an amazing amount of work to keep it going. But where would he be without getting the "correct" information from you.
@ToyKingWonder ...just because somebody owns something, it doesn't necessarily mean they know what they are doing with it, or all there is to know about it. I happen to have served time with the Army as an off-road driving instructor, just as Stalwarts were being phased out of service. Is is standard advice when driving any vehicle off-road to keep thumbs, fingers, and all other 'appendages' from within the area of a steering wheel, so as not to expose them to breakage, bruising or injury,.....
......-so caused, if the wheels of the steering axle where to contact some 'unseen', or unexpected obstacle, which may in turn cause the steering wheel to suddenly be deflected in a violent manner,....fingers and thumbs within the rim of the wheel would therefore sustain considerably painful injuries..... so in this instance, 'correct' information that I posted, is just what it says, very CORRECT, since it came from a qualified person and posted as helpful advice.
....It is afterall, common knowledge that any unsuspecting member of the public can purchase vehicles such as these, and unwittingly find themselves in all sorts of bother, purely through using/operating them in an unsafe way. Fair play to the owner, if he bought it and keeps it up together, or pays someone else to do so, but for his own safety he ought to keep his thumbs and fingers in the right place when driving off-road. He wouldn't have lasted on a Army Off-Road Driving Course in my time!
I would love to have one of these, to buy one there a bit pricey for one that is working and complete but the running costs are horific. Fuel consumption is measured in how many garages you can pass until you need to fill the 400litre tank again!!!! looks worth it though. official MPG's are 4mpg at 45mph
what a bunch of pricks,shouldn't be let a mile near these machines,kids have got no floatation jackects on ,people standing near cable,if it broke it would cut them in half,DER
Great clip until the recovery part! I have never seen so many unsafe practices in my life. These people are lucky something didn't happen and kill themselves. I think the most scary bit is when the the 623 is jerking backwards shock loading the recovery winch cable and I wonder if the driver of the 623 is aware of the damage he has done to his cable???
I bought an 60 something Russian Douce and half 6x6, she runs like pile of shit, louder than my GF on the rag, but god, it is like a tank, and cheap to insure? Like 10 bucks a month Canadian. And great for getting fire in NW Ontario.
had one catch fire on exercise in germany, in 1990 ,,runs on petrol ,straight 8 rolls royce, very very thirsty,,,,the fire was a problem , it was the ammo truck for an M107 artillery peice , carrying about 10 tons of HE,,,RUNAWAY
Gotta Be a Yank! This Vehicle was around in the 70's numb nuts and went out of service by the Mid 80's which is a damm shame as 30 years on civvies are still using them.
I have a 67,Kaiser Jeep M715 for sale. What a truck for rough territory! All original ... runs like a beauty. Have it on Craigs list in Fayetteville Ar.
1967 Jeep Kaiser M715 Truck - $5000
Rare military truck. You will find others NOT RUNNING, for near this price... I am asking $5,000 for one that Runs, Works and Looks great. Everything is in tact, original and working. I have many photos that I can send. It was made for hunting in rough terrain you can't beat it.
i nearly bought one a few years back when living at home. asked mum if it was ok to and she agreed until she asked how big it was. i showed her a picture and at that point said no. lol
i used to use them too lol nothing better than droping a gear and sending out a huge flash from the exhuast and a huge bang to wake up a german village at 3am LOL
they can suffer from transmission wind up if the tyre pressures are uneven or worn being 6x6 i was tol buy a guy who owns 1, greedy bastards too straight 8 petrol rolls royce, would still love 1 though or a zill
my dad got killed by some ballbag from the r.e.m.e when he was lying under 1 fixing it. The bellend jumped without looking to see if anyone was underneath working on it and started it up and reversed straight over the top of my dad in paderborn germany in 1983.
Many Years ago I drove 1 for a liveing,A mk2 thats the one with winch and hi ab, main use was artillery limber. fab bit of kit, trouble is only has 12 inch clutch plate so a little thought is needed sometimes plus the fuel, 100 gal tank, book figures says 4 mpg on the road & 3.5 cross country, in reality not that much, still want one though, gettin cheaper now if you look around.
Their fuel consumption is measured in gallons per mile! not miles per gallon because I looked into buying one once many years ago. They are good fun though.
@MrBooojangles convert it to Diesel.. Both Dutch construction truck makers Terberg and Ginaf, became what they are today by replacing the Hercules and Waukesha gas guzzlers in Reo and GMC army trucks, by Leyland-DAF diesels. As diesel conversions, those became the main construction trucks of the post war era well into the 70's
Music to my ears too. Nearly sounds as nice as a Peterbilt 359 on its jake-brake.
The 8x8 is an Esarco. I don't know much about these but I think only 4 were built. This one had a Rover 3.9 V8 but others had 4cyl Perkins. They have Landrover axles and coils. The front and rear axles steer. Had a bit of a power to weight problem though.
@pugmanick: hiluxdaddy is right, the 8x8 doing the rescue job was an old ESARCO protype. About ten or so prototypes of these vehicles were built with various cab designs and engines, the final production model, of which only one was built, being a crewcab pick-up with a 4-litre Perkins Phaser and auto transmission. I was involved in the test and development for a while. We also did a smaller 6x6 version, of which six were sold to the Portuguese army. It was an ingenious vehicle.
man i miss them stallies i used to drive them towards the end of the 80`s and beggining of the 90`s it was a HUGE shame to see these work horses retire one day i will own one but for now i have you tube thanks for sharing!!!!
also i was once told that the multi fuel version of this beast would run on everything from avgas to piss....is this true, enquiring minds want to know
i love these things, i will drive one some day, me old dad did the tials for the things for the army in the 60's and loved them, and the stories about them, back fireing and billging them out while driving and losing the duck boards when jumping them into water and ofcourse the infamous story at op lion heart involving a horse and railway crossing.bring back the staly
Yeh, there must be loads of interesting tales and facts about these things. I heard they suffer from terrible transmission 'wind-up' when driven a few miles on tarmac. You have to drive onto a loose surface to relieve tension in the drivetrain. Op lion Heart - sounds a good story, i'll look it up.
I drove stalwarts for 6 years in the army...awesome machine.Bit of a no no using the winch rope for towing though.Plus all the bods standing near the rope,ever seen one when it snaps????....i have.
Good points tankie. Yeh, Ive been competing in off-road and winch challenges for 18yrs and Ive seen some stupid things. Some people are so naive. The energy and forces involved in recovery should be treated with utmost respect! I always use a 'winch sail' -a heavy blanket or tarpaulin over the rope to minimise whip if it does break.
such a junk, Tatra will eat them all the way.
zgierzanin2 1 month ago
yes fun to drive i used to drive one in the army and know they do not use them now
mjchapman577 2 months ago
Good thing the cable didn't snap... or else it would have been, off with their heads !
VioletMauve 5 months ago
miss those days
60fitzy 6 months ago
Is this magnificent beast still in use.
-david
1jilu 7 months ago
whts the cost, and where r u guys!!
Computerprohelper 9 months ago
The most 'Thunderbirds' -looking bit of hardware. I owned and ran a Matchbox one. Didn't The Stalwart use a detuned version of the motor from those handsome sports cars Alvis used to built till the mid 60s?
pierstheoneandonly 10 months ago
If that cable had snapped,those kids would have been cut in half.
barbarybar 10 months ago
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@barbarybar said "If that cable had snapped,those kids would have been cut in half."
My Thoughts too. I've seen many of these things snap. The man standing right next to it must be stupid or have a death wish.
marcel911 5 months ago
One of the problems of the Stalwart, as well as the Saracen and the Saladin, was that the central differential was not lockable. If the 3 wheels on one side all started slipping, you got stuck.
Jurflip2 11 months ago
идиоты!!!
00250668 1 year ago
I miss that noise.
rangey18 1 year ago
unless you want broken wrists, I'd suggest you hold the steering wheel correctly, -ie hands and thumbs on outside of wheel-rim only, not holding spokes....
oilyboyMatt 1 year ago
@oilyboyMatt Yeah you're right, the guy must not have any idea what he is doing...seeing how he owns the thing and likely does an amazing amount of work to keep it going. But where would he be without getting the "correct" information from you.
ToyKingWonder 1 year ago
@ToyKingWonder ...just because somebody owns something, it doesn't necessarily mean they know what they are doing with it, or all there is to know about it. I happen to have served time with the Army as an off-road driving instructor, just as Stalwarts were being phased out of service. Is is standard advice when driving any vehicle off-road to keep thumbs, fingers, and all other 'appendages' from within the area of a steering wheel, so as not to expose them to breakage, bruising or injury,.....
oilyboyMatt 1 year ago
......-so caused, if the wheels of the steering axle where to contact some 'unseen', or unexpected obstacle, which may in turn cause the steering wheel to suddenly be deflected in a violent manner,....fingers and thumbs within the rim of the wheel would therefore sustain considerably painful injuries..... so in this instance, 'correct' information that I posted, is just what it says, very CORRECT, since it came from a qualified person and posted as helpful advice.
oilyboyMatt 1 year ago
....It is afterall, common knowledge that any unsuspecting member of the public can purchase vehicles such as these, and unwittingly find themselves in all sorts of bother, purely through using/operating them in an unsafe way. Fair play to the owner, if he bought it and keeps it up together, or pays someone else to do so, but for his own safety he ought to keep his thumbs and fingers in the right place when driving off-road. He wouldn't have lasted on a Army Off-Road Driving Course in my time!
oilyboyMatt 1 year ago
@oilyboyMatt you're right about the fingers, but why waste your knowledge on the unwilling ?
RenzeZielman 1 year ago
I would love to have one of these, to buy one there a bit pricey for one that is working and complete but the running costs are horific. Fuel consumption is measured in how many garages you can pass until you need to fill the 400litre tank again!!!! looks worth it though. official MPG's are 4mpg at 45mph
lockie72 1 year ago
Nice! Now I want one...Need to buy a gas station first. hehehehehe
kletterman 1 year ago
you gotta hate that; not enough water to swim, but too much to drive
ivankoran 1 year ago
Voda choda
shiblee0001 1 year ago
what a bunch of pricks,shouldn't be let a mile near these machines,kids have got no floatation jackects on ,people standing near cable,if it broke it would cut them in half,DER
chunkybuster007 1 year ago
My Son and I had a trip on the river thames in one of these..he told his teacher on the Monday and they told him to stop telling stories!
helstontvx 1 year ago
Very, very good!
But, my Scania is much better!
scaniaru 1 year ago
Great clip until the recovery part! I have never seen so many unsafe practices in my life. These people are lucky something didn't happen and kill themselves. I think the most scary bit is when the the 623 is jerking backwards shock loading the recovery winch cable and I wonder if the driver of the 623 is aware of the damage he has done to his cable???
sphurls1 2 years ago 2
I bought an 60 something Russian Douce and half 6x6, she runs like pile of shit, louder than my GF on the rag, but god, it is like a tank, and cheap to insure? Like 10 bucks a month Canadian. And great for getting fire in NW Ontario.
Fischer0Dude 2 years ago
just got an early mk1. converted to lpg, great machine
englishtothecore 2 years ago
had one catch fire on exercise in germany, in 1990 ,,runs on petrol ,straight 8 rolls royce, very very thirsty,,,,the fire was a problem , it was the ammo truck for an M107 artillery peice , carrying about 10 tons of HE,,,RUNAWAY
sodowoodo1 2 years ago
so does the army sell these to thier citizens? or wat? an how much do u buy them for?
elloimastud1 2 years ago
Definately some not so bright individuals to stand right there next to that winch line
MiGustaTacoBell 2 years ago 2
I wish ppl would learn not to stand in the whip area of a winch line.
ehhjeep 2 years ago 2
they'll learn real quick about the tiem it does snap while they are right there.
bamper42069 2 years ago
what country has these as army vehicles?
daaaveed 2 years ago
The British Army used to use them.
gpovanman 2 years ago
Nice vids. I used to drive one for real. Best off road vehice ever. It would blow smoke rings on a frost morn.
Mirrorstar 2 years ago
wanna be stryker
DieselPower597 2 years ago
This came before the Stryker you retard.
UBIQUEROL 2 years ago
Gotta Be a Yank! This Vehicle was around in the 70's numb nuts and went out of service by the Mid 80's which is a damm shame as 30 years on civvies are still using them.
highlanders1st 2 years ago
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I have a 67,Kaiser Jeep M715 for sale. What a truck for rough territory! All original ... runs like a beauty. Have it on Craigs list in Fayetteville Ar.
1967 Jeep Kaiser M715 Truck - $5000
Rare military truck. You will find others NOT RUNNING, for near this price... I am asking $5,000 for one that Runs, Works and Looks great. Everything is in tact, original and working. I have many photos that I can send. It was made for hunting in rough terrain you can't beat it.
onstageagain 2 years ago
I used to have 24 of these in my troop back in Bunde Germany, best bit of kit ever. Would love one now:)
expatbz 2 years ago 5
Same here, ex 4 Sqn :-)
djvambo 2 years ago
Hey I bet you could tell some tales about the stolly in service? :-)
cheers
sphurls1 1 year ago
i nearly bought one a few years back when living at home. asked mum if it was ok to and she agreed until she asked how big it was. i showed her a picture and at that point said no. lol
arnie2601 3 years ago
nice to see drove one in the army shame there was no doors sat in mud on the seats the whole time
mikelariat 3 years ago
i used to use them too lol nothing better than droping a gear and sending out a huge flash from the exhuast and a huge bang to wake up a german village at 3am LOL
chalky339 3 years ago
they can suffer from transmission wind up if the tyre pressures are uneven or worn being 6x6 i was tol buy a guy who owns 1, greedy bastards too straight 8 petrol rolls royce, would still love 1 though or a zill
rimmerthon1981 3 years ago
my dad got killed by some ballbag from the r.e.m.e when he was lying under 1 fixing it. The bellend jumped without looking to see if anyone was underneath working on it and started it up and reversed straight over the top of my dad in paderborn germany in 1983.
csqnthelegion 3 years ago
Many Years ago I drove 1 for a liveing,A mk2 thats the one with winch and hi ab, main use was artillery limber. fab bit of kit, trouble is only has 12 inch clutch plate so a little thought is needed sometimes plus the fuel, 100 gal tank, book figures says 4 mpg on the road & 3.5 cross country, in reality not that much, still want one though, gettin cheaper now if you look around.
ian773 3 years ago
Maybe you shoud buy russian KAMAZ and you need only one for thist little water:D
jokic777 3 years ago
I think thats Trentham gardens quary nr Stoke. A friend had a red stolly with a K60 engine.
rangey18 3 years ago
until 2:09 really nothing special.
wasted boring 2 Minutes...
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andrewbeltran 3 years ago
Their fuel consumption is measured in gallons per mile! not miles per gallon because I looked into buying one once many years ago. They are good fun though.
MrBooojangles 3 years ago
Your correct - Gallons per mile GPMs.
But count the smiles per mile (SPMs)and they're up there with the best!!
hiluxdaddy 3 years ago 12
@MrBooojangles convert it to Diesel.. Both Dutch construction truck makers Terberg and Ginaf, became what they are today by replacing the Hercules and Waukesha gas guzzlers in Reo and GMC army trucks, by Leyland-DAF diesels. As diesel conversions, those became the main construction trucks of the post war era well into the 70's
RenzeZielman 1 year ago
LOLOLOL! my name is alvis ! ftw im alive tank
likieris 3 years ago
love em.just waitin for my lottery win!!
sherman4970 3 years ago
Yeh, they're on my 'lottery list' too, somewhere between Unimog U1700 and Tatra 813.
Good luck :)
hiluxdaddy 3 years ago 3
there one on ebay for abot £6000
motorbikemadmax 3 years ago
Absolutely fantastic! One of the best sounding machines on earth!
What was the 8x8 that rescued the passengers of the stranded stallie?
pugmanick 3 years ago
Music to my ears too. Nearly sounds as nice as a Peterbilt 359 on its jake-brake.
The 8x8 is an Esarco. I don't know much about these but I think only 4 were built. This one had a Rover 3.9 V8 but others had 4cyl Perkins. They have Landrover axles and coils. The front and rear axles steer. Had a bit of a power to weight problem though.
hiluxdaddy 3 years ago
@pugmanick: hiluxdaddy is right, the 8x8 doing the rescue job was an old ESARCO protype. About ten or so prototypes of these vehicles were built with various cab designs and engines, the final production model, of which only one was built, being a crewcab pick-up with a 4-litre Perkins Phaser and auto transmission. I was involved in the test and development for a while. We also did a smaller 6x6 version, of which six were sold to the Portuguese army. It was an ingenious vehicle.
Gruntphuttock 11 months ago
man i miss them stallies i used to drive them towards the end of the 80`s and beggining of the 90`s it was a HUGE shame to see these work horses retire one day i will own one but for now i have you tube thanks for sharing!!!!
chalky339 3 years ago
I have an idea to use them in a futuristic book I'm writing. They are top machines!
MartinK303 3 years ago
RR B80 is it?, we used to have a saracen, but having a land rover and two ferrets aswell, we had to sell her!
UBIQUEROL 3 years ago
The handbrake at 1:55 was amazing LOL
szokodi72 3 years ago 3
Yeh, how cool is that?
Why have 4 clicks when you can have 40 !! LOL
hiluxdaddy 3 years ago
also i was once told that the multi fuel version of this beast would run on everything from avgas to piss....is this true, enquiring minds want to know
grumpyoldkid 3 years ago
Avgas to piss - i'm sure it all been tried by someone.
And i'm sure the tax mans thought of putting road fuel duty on piss aswell.
hiluxdaddy 3 years ago
i love these things, i will drive one some day, me old dad did the tials for the things for the army in the 60's and loved them, and the stories about them, back fireing and billging them out while driving and losing the duck boards when jumping them into water and ofcourse the infamous story at op lion heart involving a horse and railway crossing.bring back the staly
grumpyoldkid 3 years ago
Yeh, there must be loads of interesting tales and facts about these things. I heard they suffer from terrible transmission 'wind-up' when driven a few miles on tarmac. You have to drive onto a loose surface to relieve tension in the drivetrain. Op lion Heart - sounds a good story, i'll look it up.
hiluxdaddy 3 years ago
I drove stalwarts for 6 years in the army...awesome machine.Bit of a no no using the winch rope for towing though.Plus all the bods standing near the rope,ever seen one when it snaps????....i have.
tankie88 3 years ago
Good points tankie. Yeh, Ive been competing in off-road and winch challenges for 18yrs and Ive seen some stupid things. Some people are so naive. The energy and forces involved in recovery should be treated with utmost respect! I always use a 'winch sail' -a heavy blanket or tarpaulin over the rope to minimise whip if it does break.
hiluxdaddy 3 years ago
ALWAYS wanted one since around the age of 8 or 9.Saw it first on Jim'll fix it.BRILLIANT!!!!
sherman4970 4 years ago
Yeh, they're awesome machines. I could listen to that Rolls Royce engine all day long!
hiluxdaddy 4 years ago
Great video mate. Nice to see.
gpovanman 4 years ago