i think its easier to deceive clerks by the power of suggestion because theyre handling money all day, to them its routine and they think nothing of it if theyre distracted, their mind sort of goes into auto pilot once they make the sale and the distraction your mind normally cant effectively process more than a few things at once? just my thoughts on it
shit. im immune to suggestion and i dnt want to be. no suggestion tests work cuz i know whats going to happen and how my subconscious will react so wen i see it reacting my conscious says stop. ugh i dnt get it. is this cuz i know why it would work to unaware people? am i aware? i cant even explain it. im slightly analytical i guess but my imagination is off the scale and no suggestion tests ive triedhere work. whats wrong with me?
The beauty of women is an illusion. Women are like a blank canvas upon which we project what we want to see. But when we see what's really there . . . there's nothing there.
@KevinSolway okay ur making no sense dont reply back seriously like ur comparing what im trying 2 ask 2 women and u definitely dont know shit about them !!=P
The majority of people are very gullible, thus this is why the power of suggestion works. Had the guy stumped on someone very aware of himself and secure in his persona, he certainly would had not walked off with his wallet, watch and cell phone, by merely suggesting he hand them to him. As the new dollar bills all have to be identified, to be legit, he would have never ripped off a wal-mart cashier!
Thanks for the great video Men of the Infinite. I could finally get my girlfriend to realize that gypsies (no joke) don't actually possess any mystical mind control! I really wish I was kidding about this.
I studied why and how this works and am absolutely fascinated. Derren Brown was honest about how this does not work with everyone, and to degrees, and statistics about 10% being the very suggestible, which are a dream to work with, he gauges this by seeing how they follow him with body language and social cues.
Great break-down Kevin. I would add that Brown uses "anchoring" a lot. In the Russian Scam vid (last one) he hands the empty bottle to the guy for anchoring purposes. When the guy returns, he asks him to hold the empty bottle again. This is meant to trigger the somatic state of the individual in the prior session. In other words, to put him right back into the trance.
Derren Brown and other hypnotists who describe themselves as sceptics often state that most of the battle in hypnotism is finding a person who is suggestable. Everyone is suggestable, but only few are as suggestable as those portrayed in the clips - the skill comes down to finding the right person from the audience.
Yes, no doubt of that. Of course, Brown is not just a hypnotist. He uses a variety of techniques to do what he does. Naturally his show wouldn't put to air his failures. But they would be just as interesting to see, I reckon.
One thing I forgot to mention in the video was the technique of invading a person's personal space, which was used when Brown shook the fellow's hand, and when Sylver grabbed and led the woman by the hand. This has the effect of the gullible person letting the aggressor into their confidence.
Furthermore, there is the 'leading' aspect. When you take someone by the hand and lead them, you have indirectly asserted yourself as the dominant influence in the discussion.
A way to test your influence: is when you are in a group-setting, like sitting on a couch, and the dominant person in the group suddently decides to stand up. Usually, everyone else follows his lead - but if you keep sitting there - they will find it very odd and unsettling.
Brown is definitely kosher. You're totally right about the suggestive words like "buy", "payment", etc. And especially "you're happy to take that". The uncompleted handshake is particularly effective as a brain-freeze upon the victim who then innocently surrenders control in a form of suspense awaiting the handshaker to take the lead. Of course total confidence, eye contact and credibility also required. Wouldn't work on everyone; obviously they only show the successes.
Yes, Brown openly admits that these techniques only work on certain personality types, or work more effectively on them. It's a bit disturbing, really, to think about what might actually work on us personally.
I was told about an experiment where the male experimental subjects were all told that, as part of the experiment, they would all meet an attractive female actor, who, as part of the experiment, would smile at them. Afterwards, they all reported that they believed the woman smiled at them because she was really attracted to them. I think that would be a case of self-suggestion.
Thanks for articulating that more clearly, Kevin. However, I disagree that this experiment is a case of self-suggestion. The "hypnosis" was engineered deliberately though indirectly by the experimenters.
The point I was trying to make was that people are more easily hypnotised when they feel the hypnotiser likes them, and appears to have their well-being in mind.
I've seen the guy that buys stuff with blank paper before. He's pretty cool..... but i'm finding it REALLY hard to believe the end. (maybe that's the point and the jokes on me, idk)
you should post some sources so i can do a little research.... cuz it'd be cool IF it was real.
Derren Brown is quite brilliant. I advise doing a Youtube search for him. There are a number of truly fascinating videos available. Just type his name into the search box.
Become aware of the techniques that are being used. Furthermore, scepticism and pessimism is sure to make you keep both your feet on the ground. No matter how great the hypnotist or illusionist, noone can make you do something that you genuinely don't want to do.
Stay aware and focuesed. The reason it can be pulled off on many of these victims are, that their thoughts are centered in anything but the present moment.
What are you suggesting with this video? I'd really like to see if this works on me, I doubt it, but I bet so would almost all the people that fell for it.
Not sure if I completely believe that last clip of Brown.
Everything Brown does seems to be kosher. I think the reason we doubt it is that we don't like to think we're really susceptible to that kind of stuff.
I would not have any problem thinking or knowing that I am susceptible to that, there are all sorts of really dumb things that I'm sure I would fall for in the correct situations. But that last clip of brown seams so surreal, that he would be able to manipulate someone to such a great extent, that the guy he manipulated had an accent like his even though they were in the US [a plant? A jetlagged tourist? etc], and that he would be taken in by it twice. Just seams like red flags to me.
Poor editing on my part. As I understand it, the person was transported back into the trance state by handing him the plastic bottle. That's why he fell for it again.
Yes, I'm skeptical too. That's why I said that in the subtitles I would explain what I *think* is happening . . . just to cover myself! But what is happening in that vid is consistent with what I've seen happen in ordinary life. People do the most bizarre things.
Most people - especially women - are always hypnotised by something or the other. There are very, very few people who are not under the spell of some form of hypnosis.
Good vid. It's amazing how open we are to influence from others. I think one effective defense against this sort of thing is understanding yourself and your thought process. If you are familiar with how your mind works, then it is much easier to identify thoughts that have been planted there by someone other than you.
I have a sign on the inside of my bedroom door that says "make the choice" It reminds me that everything I do is a choice, and should be made through active thought process.
That's why conflict with others, distrust, and argumentation are more mentally healthy than pleasantry and politeness.
An interesting experiment showed that the average man who is told that he'll meet a woman who will smile at him (as part of an experiment), he still thinks she actually likes him personally despite being informed about the situation.
I agree with your point about social pleasantness. Agreement doesn't always indicate conscious understanding. But then, I suppose one has to say that disagreement doesn't always indicate it either. The key, as always, is reason.
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youneekk 8 months ago
I cant believe this!
I simply think this is bullshit!
I will be convinced only if I see it myself
MarkoIK85 9 months ago
Just by following the suggestion in the description..I'm not exactly on the road of not following suggestions am I. haha
Kittyjoy 9 months ago
Some of these must be fake.
infinteuniverse 10 months ago
if someone suggested that i give them my house keys i'd suggest they go fuck themselves
whatsgoingon07 1 year ago
i think its easier to deceive clerks by the power of suggestion because theyre handling money all day, to them its routine and they think nothing of it if theyre distracted, their mind sort of goes into auto pilot once they make the sale and the distraction your mind normally cant effectively process more than a few things at once? just my thoughts on it
DrLsw 1 year ago
I surely hope he gave those people their food/jewelry back!
Rosalila 1 year ago
fake!
carnesaur 1 year ago
I think this video is an act of suggestion in and of itself.
gilesecoyote 1 year ago
wow, the blank piece of paper is insane
ilnn408 1 year ago
@ilnn408 why do u call kate moss insane? she's not insane.she's just DULL.
mssharpie 1 year ago
i'm a woman &I'M NOT A BLANK PEICE OF PAPER.u'r confusing me with kate moss.I'M NOT HER.
mssharpie 1 year ago
shit. im immune to suggestion and i dnt want to be. no suggestion tests work cuz i know whats going to happen and how my subconscious will react so wen i see it reacting my conscious says stop. ugh i dnt get it. is this cuz i know why it would work to unaware people? am i aware? i cant even explain it. im slightly analytical i guess but my imagination is off the scale and no suggestion tests ive triedhere work. whats wrong with me?
TheScreamingRetard 2 years ago
hey i dont understand his giving them white paper??WTF is doesnt make sense are they that stupid?
Luck54321 2 years ago
Luck54321, have you ever fallen for a woman? Same thing as blank paper.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
@KevinSolway lol No my nigga IM a playa but still explain it and break it Down
Luck54321 2 years ago
The beauty of women is an illusion. Women are like a blank canvas upon which we project what we want to see. But when we see what's really there . . . there's nothing there.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
@KevinSolway okay ur making no sense dont reply back seriously like ur comparing what im trying 2 ask 2 women and u definitely dont know shit about them !!=P
Luck54321 2 years ago
1:53 IT'S PCS!!!!!!!
since1876 2 years ago
The majority of people are very gullible, thus this is why the power of suggestion works. Had the guy stumped on someone very aware of himself and secure in his persona, he certainly would had not walked off with his wallet, watch and cell phone, by merely suggesting he hand them to him. As the new dollar bills all have to be identified, to be legit, he would have never ripped off a wal-mart cashier!
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
I'm not quite sure that those of us watching the vid are not the ones being gulled.
(-;
GloriousReturns 1 year ago
I don't believe it a bit someone must be out of his or her mind to fall for this
Testonlyaccount 2 years ago
5:20 --"been thinking the wrong way",-- i think that too is a suggestion
rwtj01 2 years ago
Good point.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
wow..
InFromTheVoid 2 years ago
Thanks for the great video Men of the Infinite. I could finally get my girlfriend to realize that gypsies (no joke) don't actually possess any mystical mind control! I really wish I was kidding about this.
RighthereonEarth 2 years ago
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yupiie 2 years ago
Wow... heheh.. did she believed in this?
yupiie 2 years ago
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to make it!
FarfilicusStarship 2 years ago
I studied why and how this works and am absolutely fascinated. Derren Brown was honest about how this does not work with everyone, and to degrees, and statistics about 10% being the very suggestible, which are a dream to work with, he gauges this by seeing how they follow him with body language and social cues.
truvelocity 2 years ago
Obi-Wan Kanobi is the master of this ^^
7677876 2 years ago
Yeah, but he does everything by Force! That's violence! :)
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
I mean that he says "You want to lick your elbow," the person he says it to tries to lick his elbow! That's the power of suggestion at its best!
7677876 2 years ago
I think Gene Simmons can lick his elbow.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
@MenoftheInfinite oh, you are good at suggestion aren't you? haha
CanadianDamien 1 year ago
wrong, the force is not violence. it's just like The Power of Suggestion
mixmastermikepwt 2 years ago
Great break-down Kevin. I would add that Brown uses "anchoring" a lot. In the Russian Scam vid (last one) he hands the empty bottle to the guy for anchoring purposes. When the guy returns, he asks him to hold the empty bottle again. This is meant to trigger the somatic state of the individual in the prior session. In other words, to put him right back into the trance.
Rybot9000 2 years ago
My bad, I saw that on the second viewing. I didn't think I missed anything!
Rybot9000 2 years ago
The powers of misdirection!
KevinSolway 2 years ago
I was thinking about that, you suggested I might miss something and I did!
Rybot9000 2 years ago
Did you see that? No? Damn, I'm good!
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
No, I didn't see anything. The question I have is, did you see it? Or am I misdirecting your misdirection and you really did do something?
Rybot9000 2 years ago
Don't confuse me!
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
"Did you see that? No? Damn, I'm good! "
That sounds like something Tommy Cooper would say. He was one lazy magician!
KevinSolway 2 years ago
Derren Brown and other hypnotists who describe themselves as sceptics often state that most of the battle in hypnotism is finding a person who is suggestable. Everyone is suggestable, but only few are as suggestable as those portrayed in the clips - the skill comes down to finding the right person from the audience.
dalsgaard12 2 years ago
Yes, no doubt of that. Of course, Brown is not just a hypnotist. He uses a variety of techniques to do what he does. Naturally his show wouldn't put to air his failures. But they would be just as interesting to see, I reckon.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
Good video, and I think your analyses of what Brown is doing are largely correct.
People are generally quite suggestible and it isn't hard to believe that an expert such as Brown could do this. Still amazing to see, though.
Naturyl 2 years ago
This Is One Of The Most Interesting Psychological Tricks I Have Ever Seen, Thanks For Posting Kevin.
Sh33pByRadios 2 years ago
One thing I forgot to mention in the video was the technique of invading a person's personal space, which was used when Brown shook the fellow's hand, and when Sylver grabbed and led the woman by the hand. This has the effect of the gullible person letting the aggressor into their confidence.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
Furthermore, there is the 'leading' aspect. When you take someone by the hand and lead them, you have indirectly asserted yourself as the dominant influence in the discussion.
A way to test your influence: is when you are in a group-setting, like sitting on a couch, and the dominant person in the group suddently decides to stand up. Usually, everyone else follows his lead - but if you keep sitting there - they will find it very odd and unsettling.
dalsgaard12 2 years ago
Brown is definitely kosher. You're totally right about the suggestive words like "buy", "payment", etc. And especially "you're happy to take that". The uncompleted handshake is particularly effective as a brain-freeze upon the victim who then innocently surrenders control in a form of suspense awaiting the handshaker to take the lead. Of course total confidence, eye contact and credibility also required. Wouldn't work on everyone; obviously they only show the successes.
JayeHK 2 years ago
Yes, Brown openly admits that these techniques only work on certain personality types, or work more effectively on them. It's a bit disturbing, really, to think about what might actually work on us personally.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
I was told about an experiment where the male experimental subjects were all told that, as part of the experiment, they would all meet an attractive female actor, who, as part of the experiment, would smile at them. Afterwards, they all reported that they believed the woman smiled at them because she was really attracted to them. I think that would be a case of self-suggestion.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
Thanks for articulating that more clearly, Kevin. However, I disagree that this experiment is a case of self-suggestion. The "hypnosis" was engineered deliberately though indirectly by the experimenters.
The point I was trying to make was that people are more easily hypnotised when they feel the hypnotiser likes them, and appears to have their well-being in mind.
Panoculus 2 years ago
I've seen the guy that buys stuff with blank paper before. He's pretty cool..... but i'm finding it REALLY hard to believe the end. (maybe that's the point and the jokes on me, idk)
you should post some sources so i can do a little research.... cuz it'd be cool IF it was real.
PhilipWitte 2 years ago
Derren Brown is quite brilliant. I advise doing a Youtube search for him. There are a number of truly fascinating videos available. Just type his name into the search box.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
There comes another video I hope?! I was really looking forward to some kick ass advice for avoiding this kind of manipulation.
kasuskasus 2 years ago
I think the video contains that advice in the form of showing how such manipulation works. The antidote is simply: consciousness.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
Become aware of the techniques that are being used. Furthermore, scepticism and pessimism is sure to make you keep both your feet on the ground. No matter how great the hypnotist or illusionist, noone can make you do something that you genuinely don't want to do.
Stay aware and focuesed. The reason it can be pulled off on many of these victims are, that their thoughts are centered in anything but the present moment.
dalsgaard12 2 years ago
Thank you, Dalsgaard.
kasuskasus 2 years ago
What are you suggesting with this video? I'd really like to see if this works on me, I doubt it, but I bet so would almost all the people that fell for it.
Not sure if I completely believe that last clip of Brown.
MotionFur 2 years ago
Everything Brown does seems to be kosher. I think the reason we doubt it is that we don't like to think we're really susceptible to that kind of stuff.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
I would not have any problem thinking or knowing that I am susceptible to that, there are all sorts of really dumb things that I'm sure I would fall for in the correct situations. But that last clip of brown seams so surreal, that he would be able to manipulate someone to such a great extent, that the guy he manipulated had an accent like his even though they were in the US [a plant? A jetlagged tourist? etc], and that he would be taken in by it twice. Just seams like red flags to me.
MotionFur 2 years ago
The location of the last Derren Brown clip was somewhere in England.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
Ah, I assumed it was still in New York with the other clips.
MotionFur 2 years ago
Poor editing on my part. As I understand it, the person was transported back into the trance state by handing him the plastic bottle. That's why he fell for it again.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
I'm still skeptical of this.
MotionFur 2 years ago
Yes, I'm skeptical too. That's why I said that in the subtitles I would explain what I *think* is happening . . . just to cover myself! But what is happening in that vid is consistent with what I've seen happen in ordinary life. People do the most bizarre things.
KevinSolway 2 years ago
I've watched a lot of Brown's stuff and whilst it is at times quite astonishing, I can't find any evidence that it isn't kosher.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
cant believe !!!
supergopi 2 years ago
Most people - especially women - are always hypnotised by something or the other. There are very, very few people who are not under the spell of some form of hypnosis.
jupiviv 2 years ago
This is very true. Sadly, it's most often a form of self-hypnosis. Human psychology is riddled with self-defeating and dangerous attributes.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
Good vid. It's amazing how open we are to influence from others. I think one effective defense against this sort of thing is understanding yourself and your thought process. If you are familiar with how your mind works, then it is much easier to identify thoughts that have been planted there by someone other than you.
I have a sign on the inside of my bedroom door that says "make the choice" It reminds me that everything I do is a choice, and should be made through active thought process.
pfarabee 2 years ago
That's why conflict with others, distrust, and argumentation are more mentally healthy than pleasantry and politeness.
An interesting experiment showed that the average man who is told that he'll meet a woman who will smile at him (as part of an experiment), he still thinks she actually likes him personally despite being informed about the situation.
Panoculus 2 years ago
I agree with your point about social pleasantness. Agreement doesn't always indicate conscious understanding. But then, I suppose one has to say that disagreement doesn't always indicate it either. The key, as always, is reason.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago