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  • /watch?v=YRzPs0N2LnU

    Muhammad Ali "King of the ring" Carrer Tribute [Highlights + interviews]

  • i would scream

  • 5:51 imagine yourself fighting him.. it is impossible

  • What's the song?

  • Why did Ali stay on the ropes so much ima young'n?

  • @MrJjizzle2 because he did what he called the rope a dope and wore out george foreman and then when foreman was to tired and worn out to hit anymore ali took the chance and knocked him out.

  • @sheelshock2008 aw ok haha

  • Tyson fans always shout 'if this' and 'if that' you become great by what you acctually do not what you could have done. Ali goat

  • The ironic thing about Ali beating foreman was that whilst he won the fight in the long run he lost the war because the tactics he employed in the fight which got him the win ie sitting on the ropes and soaking up foremans punches until he gassed out probably played a big part in the parkinsons he has today!

  • @BoxingBadBoy77 You could be right but Frazier did a lot of damage in manila too. I think he was never the same after that fight and as a result started eating more and more punches for the remainder of his career.

  • @BoxingBadBoy77 No it didnt.

    If any fight ever contributed to it it was thrilla.

    But even then fighting dont contribute much to parkinsons your just born with it.

  • 11 People had their money on Foreman

  • what a legend hahaha

  • @TheZisou0505 your right he's the best cause henstomped on the best and made them lookmstupid he tortured Frazier for 14 rounds he dropedmlinston in the 2nd round and beat the first mma fighter and droped him over 20 times

  • he is the best boxer of all time.

    people who dont know anything about him shut up because he was absolute the best boxer

  • Muhammad Ali was a racist bitch..Hope he burns in hell..

  • @coollittlewhiteguy

    is that why ur in his Video ?

  • all this complain about who is better than who, nobody knows they were all from different times you can have all the computer fights and boxing"experts" tell you who would win but they don't know! you have your opinion and that's it, just be thankful u got to see great boxers like these, ali's my favourite boxer doesn't make him the greatest tho know what i mean? float like a butterfly... sting like a bee

  • It's a real shame he was banned from boxing for 3 years. Ali pre-boxing ban was just untouchable, his speed and movement was beyond human. When he came back after the ban, he was still the greatest... Just not as great.

  • really cool vid

  • tyson would kill all of em

  • EZ SZERINT MA A +OLDÁS

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  • ALI IS GOAT

  • youtube.com/watch?v=q9wdJcUCe2­I 

    If u like Muhammad Ali

  • this is zeppelin, but who is the lyrics by

  • @tampaboy1961 It's puff daddy  /watch?v=uWeAtLr8bX4

  • Best boxing quotes.... EVER.

  • tyson vs muhammad would have been a good fight but tyson vs cassius woulda have been legendary

  • Ali was and is an amazing man.

    He was very fast with his fists and mouth.

    He backed it all up.

    I think he should have served his country like everyone else.

    That made a lot of people wonder about him.

    Anyway, too bad he got PD.

    He should have retired years before he did.

    George Vreeland Hill

  • tyson would kill all of em

  • NMP254 no mms guy would beat Ali

  • I drowned a cup of water and killed a dead tree

  • the beggening is freaking sick what he says but good video

  • the game died when ali stopped boxing

  • shut up ali you would get your shit kicked in a cage

  • I'VE HANDCUFFED LIGHTNING AND PUT THUNDER IN JAIL

  • The best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ali frazier 3 was the most scary fight ive ever seen i thought damn those two will kill eachother! that fight was more then just a sport fight that was pure hate from frazier i think!

  • ali was simply to smart for george.

  • if muhammed Ali and tyson have ali won

    i am sell boxer i box in Norway in Trondheim in B-30 boxing team

  • Tyson had lost top fights against Lewis, Holyfield, he never had beaten any top fighter! No comparison, Ali much, much better, even Lewis was much better than Tyson.

  • he was old by then .. i am an ali fan but ali vs tyson in his prime neva mind those bums would be a hard fight.. tyson prime would kill god mate .. ali still is the champ :D OF ALL TIME

  • Not to take anything away from Tyson but Tyson-Ali would be a mismatch. Styles make a fight and Tyson was made for Ali. Ali probably had the best chin in heavyweight history, was hard to hit in his prime, his footwork uncanny, his reach advantadge, great stanima, skill and ring smarts would render Tyson helpless. Especialy if you consider Tyson ran out of steam after a few rounds and got frustrated. Ali would dance the first rounds, taunt Tyson and in the later rounds Tyson would fall.

  • ali tyson would be much like ali vs frazier .. styles do make fights .. ali against stockey smaller guys he struggles more .. hard to call.. hes my favourite fighter tho so i say ALI :D

  • Ali didn't strugle with small fighters. Certainly not prime Ali, before his exile.

    He had problems with Frazier who had a simular style. There was 1 huge difference. Frazier putt relentless pressure for 15 rounds while Tyson could only keep that up for a few rounds and then slowed down. It's the thoughness and stanima of Frazier that gave Ali a rough time, not his power. Tyson was stronger but that wouldn't help him, Ali, he took the best punches from the most powerfull punchers in boxing.

  • i agree with all this but tyson had alot more power than frazier so it wouldnt need as much pressure the full fight .. still think ali would win but there would not be alot in it .. tyson had so much power

  • Tyson had 1 punch power in each hand,Frazier only had his left hook. But I don't think Tyson's left was harder then Fraziers. And Frazier keept his power for 15 rounds, he clipped Ali (rusty after the exile) in the 15th round, it was from the fatigue Ali went down and still he got up fast. Tyson would have to hit a lot harder in the first rounds with a fresh Ali.

    I don't believe Tyson had more power then Shavers, who caught Ali, way over the hill with many shots, it didn't stop him.

  • ive watched all alis fights hes my fave fighter / idol ... tysons combos had the speed of ali and the power of close to shavers.. defo a harder puncher than frazier .. different eras tho .. if ali never lost they 3 1/2 years he would be unstoppable best fighter ever .. tyson is a true great aswell and i still think it would be a tough fight

  • yes but ali had an amazing chin

  • this is by far tha best description of how ali - tyson fight would look like..

    btw tyson had a lung problems so he doesnt have that much punching power after 5 rounds

    (he sad so him self)

  • what is tje name of the song guys?

  • George your out of gas and there is no gasstation around here hahahahhaa

    Muhammad Ali was always funny

  • KING!

  • ali bumaye

  • ali ....forman best boxer ever in my time

  • ali! ali! ali!

  • TYSON ! TYSON! TYSON!

  • @slamin45 louis! louis! louis!

  • yea he was a bad mofo too, but i prefre tha

    BADDEST MAN ON THA PLANET! *TYSON*

  • tyson wouldnt even dare to face an overaged george, dont even talk about fighting a prime ali

  • Tyson and Ali were both the greatest, cant say whos better. We never saw Tyson at his peak. IF cuz was around he would be undefeated his whole career. But saying Foreman would beat Tyson is ridiculous, he wont catch Tyson's speed and headmovement.

  • theres always some nerd having this debate

  • we never seen ali at his peek u mad rocket shaped mongo !! he wouldnt catch tysons head- movemeant ... u stupid !! foreman wouldve killed anyone apart from the superior ali that night he shat a brick on foremans carreer

  • wow it looked like ali had nothing left

  • he had to beat tarzans behind for claiming he was the king of the jungle..lol

  • this song is amazing what is it

  • Come with me....

    P-Diddy...from Godzilla soundtrack

  • ali n tyson both in rime prob tyson he vwas so fast n solid... ali was fast n could take a metior in his face but who knows ?

  • perfect tribute video, with music

  • Ali vs. Louis= biggest fight of all time.

  • u r Stupid futuremidwtchamp07, am i the only one who wants to slap dis dude

  • yeah slap me cause only bitchs slap and your a bith

  • In rnd. 9 of their first fight. Muhammad gave Frazier such a beating. Few would've recovered properly from it. Ones who say he wasn't a knock-out artist were right. But just take a slight look at those punches Joe had to take. Those were really nasty punches.

  • HE is a LEAGEND

  • idk if anyone knows this but athletes get old too i mean ali was like 38 when he lost to holmes and he was ill body wise and he never lost by an actual knockout i mean this guy is the only heavyweight to ever win the title 3 times thats amazing and as far as frazier? many boxer historians say if he fought in a diff era he wuld hav never lost nd he only lostto ali nd foreman both hall of famers so much for swarmer nd also ken norton broke his jaw thats why he lost but he dd it in the 1st rd

  • muhammed was a fake paper made by faracon. faracon admited to having forman drugged before the fight after the fight foreman asked for his piss results to be tested becuase he felt he was drugged and his piss test "lost" mike tyson would have destroyed this guy. its funny foreman never got a rematch and when he first fought spinks it was set up to lose so he could be the only one to win the title 3 times. karma is a bitch look at ali now

  • your brain is made of faracon. Ali is the GREATEST!

  • haha you need a history lesson tyson would have killed ali then probaly molest his daughter

  • You are the one who needs a history lesson. Tyson never won a fight in which his opponent hit him back. Tyson fans more than anyone are in need of history lessons. Your guy was a paper tiger. As soon as someone stood up to him, he was done. But he prob would have molested Ali's daughter, bec Tyson was a scum bag. But in the ring Ali in his prime kicks Tyson's ass.

  • mike tyson was a scum bag nobody is disputing that the only reason he stayed out of trouble because of his first trainer cus damto but muhammed ali himself mike tyson would have beat him and thats coming from a very loud mouth do some research Faracon set everything up from muhammed ali

  • Mike Tyson has also said Ali would have beaten him. So what does that prove. Ali was unbeatable in his prime. Ring magazine when they did their all time top 20 heavyweights ever agree. Ali was no 1. Tyson? no 14. That's about right.

  • please send me the link of the video of tyson saying that. Nat Fliescher a guy that saw fighters from jim jefferies to joe frazier didnt even include ali in the top ten. Did i also mention he was the FOUNDER OF RING Magazine . to think ali was the best is to be naive thats like believeing every tabloid on the news stands

  • Ring magazine had their all time top 20 heavyweights listed every 5 yrs since 1988. The last time it was done was 2008. Sorry to inform you Ali was ranked no1. And equally sorry to inform you Tyson was ranked no 14. It is you Tyson fans who are incredibly naive, and think boxing was invented in1987. As for Nat Fleischer's rankings, he specifically said i won't rate him(Ali) until he retires. He said he always waited till a fighter retires be4 rating him. Fleis died in 72, Ali was still fighting.

  • send me the link that fliescher said that cause im almost certain he said i will never rank him in the Top ten. i never said boxing was invented in 1987. i like dempsey i like liston foreman louis marciano. people that are ali fans are people that have given into the media bullshit of a paper made champ he was good but the greatest hell no he wasnt

  • "he does not qualify for rating with the greatest heavyweights of all time". the exact quote of Nat Fleischer of ali.

  • If Fleischer said that he was wrong! Fortunately the entire staff of Ring magazine does believe as most world experts do that Ali is the greatest all time heavyweight. Fleischer also had Jim Corbett a 170lb as beating Joe Louis. So clearly he was biased to the distant old timers. Laila Ali would beat Corbett. Media hype is not why i believe Ali is the greatest. Watching him in his prime is why i know Ali is the best ever. And even past his prime in the 1970's he still whipped the best in tha era

  • so since a bunch of computer geeks sit behind and add up statistics that makes ali the best so i guess you believe in the computer fight with marciano and ali making marciano the best. what made ali so good tell me the skills he had that would have beat tyson. honestly i dont think ali would hang the lewis or the klitchsko brothers

  • I don't need computer geeks to tell me Ali was the best ever. I already believed he was the best ever long before Ring mag all-time list. As far as the "computer fight" with Marciano you're the one mentioning computers not me. And since we are on that topic, there was 7 different endings staged for that computer fight. Two of which were used. One in Europe, were Ali won by tko in 12 rds i bel. The other was here in US. Rocky by 13th. Neither matter (both fiction) . Ali would have won by the way

  • are you serious ali would have won marciano was smartest boxer ever he was small so he made himself smaller tall guys punch dont hurt as bad when a guy 6'0 was right on his belly the had to punch straight down. i didnt want to resort to calling names but you are just naive and ignorant as anyone ive ever met

  • Why don't you just stay off Ali sights if you hate him so much. Firstly your comment that Tyson was "unstoppable" was funny. Tyson was never unstoppable. As soon as competition got better he was exposed. Then you say both Klitchko's and Lewis would beat Ali in his prime. None would have beaten him. Ali would have also butchered Marciano with his lightning cutting punches. You say "what made Ali so good"? Let me educate you since you're clueless. Fastest ever, brilliant boxer, great chin, G.O.A.T

  • Neither Lewis, or Klitchko would have laid a glove on 1964-67 Ali. But Lewis takes out Tyson even in Tyson's prime.

  • are you serious? i think a 1990ish tyson is honestly a juggernaut unstoppable man freak ali was not good what made ali so good? klitchko either one would be ali the had the same fighting style throw a hundred jabs then maybe throw a power punch too bad we will never know what happened all i know is foreman showed who was the better man by winning the title at 45 so screw your ali hes good champion but greatest of all time he isnt

  • Okay well boxing is definitely about footwork, stamina, finesse, upper-body movement, ring smarts, ability to take a punch, etc... So when you break Ali's style down by saying, "throw a hundred jabs then maybe a power punch...." you obviously either don't know the first thing about Ali, or don't know much about boxing. Oh, and if you use commas it helps us understand what you're trying to say...Even if it is laughable and irrelevant.

  • Amen boxaman. this guy futuremidwtchamp has no clue. Ali was the fastest, most skilled heavyweight champ. And actually hit harder than his critics say. But the key (in his prime) was to hit, and not get hit in return. Thanks for bringing sanity to this conv.

  • hows is he the greatest of all time if he gets beat it obviously means he is unbeatable also known as NOT the greatest of all time. if cus d amato had not died tyson would be the greatest of all time tyson said the only person he fought for was amato. do your research foreman should have never lost to ali he was drugged ali was made by a bunch of islamist fuck sticks

  • What a bunch of nonsense from you. First of all Ali didn't lose in his prime. When he got stripped of his title in 1967 he wa 30-0 with 24 ko's. Unlike Tyson who lost at 24 yrs old, Ali didn't lose until almost 30yrs old. And that's only because he was just back from the 31/2 yr layoff. 2ndly Foreman was not drugged. What bull shit. Even Foreman admitted later he was just making excuses because he couldn't handle losing. He got beaten by the greatest ever. Even though Ali was 32yr and Foreman 25

  • Word.

  • really actually foreman wrote that in his book and it was posted on espn in 2007 so yeah your the one with the non sense. you cant be the G.O.A.T if youve been beat im sorry but 30 years old isnt old or whatever. how is a man that absolutly destroyed frazier going to get lose to ali who lost to frazier once and barely beat him another time

  • shows how little you know. Styles make fights. Frazier was not style wise equipped to fight Foreman. Ali on the other hand fought a diff style than Frazier. Boxers always gave Foreman more trouble than sluggers. And Ali beat Frazier twice by the way. Not just once. You should know that, but you don't know much do you? And Ali schooled Foreman. Nothing fixed at all. Nice try though.

  • yeah no shit ali beat frazier twice everyone with a schlong should know that. your just the typical person that doesnt look past a athletes lime light and investigate deeper look at faracon pretty much ran ali. faracon is the guy that had malcom x killed and your telling me that nothing was fixed your out of you mind. i bet you think jordan was the best basketball player too dont you

  • You are such a clown. You come up with this total bullshit about Farakhan. Any excuse to take away from Ali's wins. You are really comical. I guess it was Farakhan who was landing the punches, and taking them as well. You probably think the moon landing was a hoax, and Elvis is still alive right? What a fool you are. And by the way Jordan is the greatest just like Ali. But it's fitting that you would be wrong there as well. You probably think O.J is innocent too.

  • no farakhan fixed the fights so a muslim would be the the "best" ever. no i fully believe in the moon landing and elvis is dead. and no jordan isnt the best larry byrd was look it up

  • this is never going to end. you have your opinions i have mine have fun

  • Yours are not opinion. Farrakan had nothing to do with Ali being champ. He didn't even run the Nation Of Islam when Ali was champ. Elijah Muhammad and later W. Muhammad did. That is straight out of the looney bin what you say. And even Larry Bird has said Jordan was far better than him. I like Bird myself. He was a top 10 all time player. But Jordan like Ali is top 1.

  • farrakan had alot to do with ali and he admitted to having foreman drugged. he said he was disgusted that foreman waved the american flag after he won the gold medal and he said he told himself that before he dies he will ruin that man(foreman) i think ali was good. good enough to be champ but not GOAT. and how are mine not opinions and yours are everyone has opinions just because we view different doesnt mean they arent opinions

  • You belong in the comic books. He never said that. How stupid do you think people are. Farakhan was nothing and had nothing to do with Ali winning any fight. Ali would have beaten Foreman 10 out of 10 times. Styles make fights. Foreman would have done same to Frazier. Now go back to the "Twilight Zone"

  • yeah doubt it do your research quit being narrow headed

  • You need to do research not me. And not in the comic books i suggest.

  • i did do my research thats why i can look outside the book. and i do believe your the one that reads the comics "oh ring magazine this oh ring magazine that"

  • what reseasrch? Ali and Jordan any day over Tyson and Bird. Most i'm sure know i i'm right.

  • ok ill give you jordan i was just stupid. but the tyson and ali im sure that tyson who was more relentless and stronger then frazier would have beat the brakes off ali

  • Tyson never beats the prime Ali 1964-67. Frazier never met that Ali. Even the deteriorated post 3 and a half yr layoff Ali beat frazier 2 of 3 times. Ali in his prime takes both Tyson/Frazier within a month of eachother.

  • kid you are ridiculous you make me laugh so hard i dont even think tyson hit his prime because he couldnt keep his mind right. but even an unprime tyson would stomp ali's face in the canvas

  • Tyson deteriorated or not would have been whipped by Ali. "Stomp Ali's face" ha ha! You must read a'lot of comic books. Fiction is your game not boxing.

  • i would love to get in the ring with you obviously you are the one with the comics jackin your dick to ring magazine i just dont see what muhammed ali did that made him so great either maybe just everyone sucked back then. tyson was heavy weight king and was only 20 years old WOW is all i have to say about tyson

  • Typical ignorant Tyson fan. Everyone knows it's Ali who fought in the most competitive era in heavyweight history. If anyone fought in the everyone "sucked back then era" as you call it , it was Tyson. He beat total bums, and as soon as someone stuck a jab in his face, and didn't wilt, he (Tyson) fell apart. Ali was the greatest heavyweight in history. Tyson as ring magazine accurately rated him was no 14. I hope you can fight better than you can analyze talent.

  • i analyze better then i let people and mainstream media and magazine want me too. and i damn sure fight better. to me ali don king and faraakhan ruined boxing

  • Don King came along 10 yrs after Ali's prime. Farakhan had nothing to do with Ali the fighter. And Ali saved boxing when it was prior to him dying. Other than being 0 for 3, you were pretty accurate.

  • what does ali's prime have anything to do with don king. ali don king and farrackhan ruined boxing and if you thing ali and farrackhan werent involved then you are not too bright so yeah your record stands right now as EMBARRASSING!

  • The only embarassing thing here is your lack of knowledge.

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  • ali bigger than fraiser faster too u idiot he will beat yo ass in his prime or anyone else

  • your contradicting yourself. you say your beloved ring magazine statistic was right but the founder a guy thats as much about boxing as anyone in the world defiantly more then you and me said he wasnt in the top ten

  • ALI is the greatest

    ALI ist der grösste

    ALI en büyük

  • faheemthedream2007,,,,,,,cassi­us clay/ali was probably the best HEAVYWEIGHT BOXER of all time,,with only jim tunney,james corbett and small heavyweight billy conn having any argument,,,,,,,,,but that being said,,boxer and fighter are two different animals,,,,joe frazier was not a boxer at all but a fighter he was,,,,,,,marciano couldnt box but he could fight,,,,ditto tyson,,,so more ,,I AM THE GREATEST ,,,that was self serving propaganda by ali himselt

  • suneyj,,,,,,ali was about as good as they get as far as boxing ability,,,but prizefighting also has a lot of intangibles,,like will,courage ,agressivenes,,etc,,,so to say ali was the greatest based on his boxing abilities discounts frazier marciano and dempseys intangibles along with tysons ferociousness,,,i guess we will never know,,,

  • trust me when i say ALI IS THE GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIMES!

    his rythm when he used his footwork, his speed in his jabs and punches, his accuracy in the punches he threw, most importantly his technical fighting was superb..

    no one in there prime could do the things this guy did..

    bruce lee was the best in his genre, and muhammad ali is the best in this genre

    -_-

  • muhammed ali was a damn good fighter,,,but clearly not the best,,if he had beat a prime frazier or easily handled a limited fighter in ken norton,,,,who was strong and athletic but no real skilled fighter,,,,,,then maybe a case could be made,,,but swarmers like frazier and norton gave him trouble,,swarmers like dempsey marciano tyson would have given him the same treatment as a prime frazier did,,,,,and by the way the last two frazier fights,,,frazier was shot thanks to foreman,but close fights

  • if hes not the best howcome his record was 56-5??

  • i know right!! rocky mariciano was undefeated!

  • But he beat swarmers like Frazier and Norton while he himself wasnt at his best, that should be taken into account

  • holmes whipped that ass,,,tko,,,,,,gave that boy the whipping and humiliation that he gave patterson terrell,chulvalo,,what comes around goes around,,,,,now hes punch drunk,,karmas a bitch

  • thats alright though everyone in the world knows who muhammad ali is and he his the athlete of the century and one of the the most dynamic personalities in the world he set a bar that no boxer till today has reached. you ask anyone boxing fans or not they know ali ask them about holmes and they ask wtf is that? THE GREATEST EVER.only true champions are willing to pay the price for greatness ali paid his so wtf is holmes.peace no more from me

  • Tyson is the greatest!

  • tyson was a total beast but ali would beat him

  • He did loose to Fraizer but that was only cause he was out of shape that time..Ali is the greatest...nobody could defeat Ali when he was in shape.

  • time of the great and ali came on top.

  • both young and undefeated,,in their primes,,,,JOE FRAZIER whipped that ass,,cassius clay took a serious ass whipping,,the greatest loudmouth

  • stop

  • This collection just rocks....

  • how many fights did ali loose in his life of boxing

  • 5 i think

  • Muhammed Ali lost 5 times in his career.

  • thanks for the information.

  • 5 none by ko

  • so no ko's.

  • yeah Ali was never ko'd

  • thats cool so he is a legend

  • hes lost 5 total, 56-5 i think hes the greatest. And nasty left hook he also defeated smokin joe so every great fighter loses

  • Ali vs Forman , battle of wills , at the end they were just running on pure will, no gas left. Ali saves a little energy and finished Forman when Forman couldn't go anymore, thats what makes or breaks a fighter, going into that situation and coming out victorious.

  • the greatest of all time !!!!!!!

  • muslim for every

  • another great song ruined by shitty rap music

  • i agree lol

  • If you asked me who was the greatest in the ring? Then it has to be Muhammad Ali.

    Why?

    Because he was quick and he wasn't scared at all, he knew how to back it up.

    Brother Muhammad has nice personality, he was sometimes crude, but this man was a great athlete in the ring and was a courageous freedom fighter out of the ring.

    Brother Muhammad Ali is the greatest of them all.

  • Yes, but he is not only "brother" he belongs to all of humanity.

  • I hope You think Mike tyson Belongs to all of humanity as well

  • Yes wth u ask fool

  • Slow yo role Wit the name Callin Bruh I aint Some one Who Trys To Break bad on The Internet...Most People Are Quick To Yell And Correct People About Who Belongs To Humanity as Soon as A person Like Tyson Gets Thrown in the Picture he Belongs To the Black Race Just Being Honest....

  • Legend!!

  • from like 1:45 till the end of that it seems his mouth is moving like the mouth on that baby commercial when he's talking about trading or some shit on the computer silly yes but hilarious also yes .

  • What s the name of the song??

  • p. daddy - coming with me

  • no one better beautiful fighter

  • James Figg is the best

    he was the first boxing champion of all time .

    ;)

  • the greatest

  • Actually i agree with you about Hagler over Leonard. And even though we disagree about Ali, i regret calling you clueless. its, just different differing opinions. No need to get too heated or personal about that. Sorry!

  • Changing the subject already i see. Well Norton gave Ali a tough time in all 3 fights for a combination of reasons. First off; like Frazier, Norton was lucky to have met Ali after the 3 and a half year layoff when Ali was past his peak. Also Norton fought well vs boxers like Ali and Holmes. He wilted vs sluggers like Foreman and Shaevers. Its' simply a style thing. Gene Fullmer beat Ray Robinson twice. Was he better? Ali in the 1970's not as great as he was from 1965-67. Ali then was best ever.

  • im not going to argue with you, u have ur oppinions i have mine, simple as that. u can pick faults with every boxer, its just a matter of preference. its like i prefer hagler to ray leonard, where u most likely prefer ray to hagler.

  • Ok frisbyrd. there is so much here i can refute easily. first of all the 2nd Frazier fight should have ended in the 2nd round when the ref thought he heard the bell, and there was still 40 sec left and Ali had Frazier staggering all over the ring. Ali won at least 8 of the 12 rounds. In Manila all three scorecards had Ali way ahead going into rd 15. Joe was destroyerd in t 13th and 14th rounds. Also his eye prob he had since 1964 he said. nice try though. And i thought Ali won 9 rounds in 1st f.

  • what about the norton fights also?

  • You're obviously a big Ali fan, and see things from that prespective, but there are a couple of factual errors. Firstly, in Frazier 2, he wasn't staggering all over the ring, he went backwards, and c'mon Ali knocking him out - wouldn't happen, and the ref wouldn;t have stopped it.

    Even Ali says he lost the first fight, try watching it without the commentary. It's not the amatuers, quality of punches and power matter, not just volume.

    As for the 60's Ali - worst comp. until Larry Holmes.