It's only because these savages from the north, east, and south lack the sophistication to properly form the correct words. We in California adhere to a higher standard of intelligence, and thus our regional lexicon is vastly superior to that of the more..uncouth members of our empire.
@Pimetalz What? You are crazy! I know what you mean being from New England too and have the same thing. But I love it for it's plain, "flat", and "neutral" qualities.
At 4:10 it reminds me of my family's old 'family reunion' videos. I remember getting yelled at like that. I also remember that I had a horrible problem with adding 'yeah' or 'kno' to the end of my sentences. "Mama said come here, yeah!" or "I don't want to do my homework, kno." Is that a Louisiana thing?
knowledge of your own country: learn what means what and where.no excuses.when i go to the south of ireland i know the lingo even though some of their accents grate on me and some are hard to understand.
@98bigbutt I'm from NYC also, and everyone I know uses that word. Maybe it depends on where you're from. My mother is from NYC also, and she uses "schlep" all the time too.
I thought we lived in an interconnected world, and yet here are people oblivious to the fact that these items are called something different outside of their little hometown. Gumbands? Seriously?
@baigandine I was especially surprised that it took her awhile to think of the "correct" word. I'm from the Midwest, and I've never heard the use of "gumband" before...it must be a very very regional word.
@baigandine its called keeping culture alive even though there might be a homegenized version of the word there trying to say they'd rather keep there old way - and whats wrong with that
I've lived in different areas of the US, and the MOST varied nonstandard American English is the African American vernacular as spoken in Atlanta. I had to live there several years before I started understanding.
wow i've never heard anyone call a rubberband a gumband :/ that's honestly very funny sounding.
and i've always heard the word jambalaya but i never knew what it meant. thanks video. ha
antigogglin? wtf. ha. wouldn't it just be simpler to say crooked?
although i guess that's no different than ohioans saying pop instead of soda or hair doodles instead of hair ties. you know the thing you use to put your hair into a ponytail?
In another video a very talented voice talent from Scotland actually said that he couldn't tell the difference between Hawaiian pidgin and General American. Those two dialects are as different to us Americans as Spanish is to French. I think the fellow's ears simply just weren't attuned to notice the vast differences. Similarly I have a hard time telling the difference between all the accents from the north of England since they all sound semi-Scottish to me. Perspective, man, perspective.
goog ol' georgia southen belle heyah! I jus wanted to let ya'll know it'sa raynin a regula frowg strangla owt heyah, and I rekon jus as soown as it'sa pas' us the fowg aughta be so thick you kan jus drive a thumb tek inta it and heng yer coawt! Ya'll be safe now! XOXO - little miz scarlet
For the person who says they're from Chicago and have no accent, that's not true. Everyone technically has an accent. Plus, there are definitely some Chicagoisms. Gym shoes=running shoes, pop=soda, "budge"=to cut in line (although this might be more of a wisconsin thing). i go to school in southern indiana, and I'm always getting made fun of for my accent and the way I say my "A"s, like "beagh" for "bag."
i've lived in souther indiana like my whole life and i sound different from the people that live around here maybe it is because my mom is from northern/central ohio, idk?
and here you go again spreading your ignorance. explain to me how "pop" is more likely the original term considering that the name soda comes from the fact that the primary ingredient is (duh duh-duh!) SODA WATER!
Carbonated water was invented in the town I currently live (wikipedia just informed me, how nice ^_^ ), Leeds. And it was known as carbonated water, not soda water. And it was dubbed as 'pop'. America had already split off from Britain by this point, and due to tension between us, you never had it until 1806, when Benjamin Silliman (sillyman!? Haha!) invented it (though we already had it :-p) in Yale.
hahaha, wrong again buddy. the term "soda" dates back to 1558 to my recollection, while robert southey didn't coin the term "pop" until 1812, and even when he did coin it, check out the context: "A new manufactory of a nectar, between soda-water and ginger-beer, and called pop, because pop goes the cork when it is drawn."
so obviously soda was first, because he mentions it in the same statement where he first coins the term "pop".
How does the word soda date back to 1558 if it wasn't even invented then?
Dandelion and Burdock was the first ever fizzy drink, and it was dubbed 'pop' due to the bubbles inside it.
Did you just call me mr. idiot? Are you 5 years old?
There are 72 million people in the UK, not 60 million.
Even people living in the rural US have only settled there quite recently, and therefore their accents haven't diverged. Also, there is fast connections to cities even from there.
actually, it was termed "pop" due to the fact that the cork made a popping sound when uncorked. why would you call it pop for being fizzy?
and your numbers are quite off there. according to your very own government, there's 61.4 million people in the UK, not 72.
and the people in the rural US have been there for quite some time. have you ever even been to america? for hundreds of miles in some places that's all you can find!
NO! The first American to take the English word 'pop', and use it in advertising was Robert Southey, but he took the phrase from the English usage, which has been used for centuries now. We never even called it soda water like you, it's carbonated water for us, so it makes no logical sense that we'd call it soda! It was called pop, because it was aimed at upper class children, and it was meant to signify the bubbles popping at the top.
Yes but, "mister linguistics" is an ironic statement, praying on the fact that I had outwitted your remark. And then you replied with a childish, and not even offensive, "mister idiot".
It just goes against all conventions of how to insulting someone ;-)
I'm from Chicago(I have no accent) didn't realize have diverse America is linguistically, but what I love more are the different accents and dialects from you guys across the pond! I'm an English Compisition major and many classes I've had are British Lit, which means we have to learn the history of English/British/Scottish/Welsh language and literature. Its so interesting; Picts, Britons, Celts, Scots, Saxons, and so on. So many dialects and languages.
Hi there Lady from Chicago....I bet your a Bears fan.....LOL
I've been to Chicago a few times, I really like it!!
I must spend more times there one day.
Thank you for your email, it did not give me an option to Reply, that's why I came here to reply.
I just Love the way Americans talk, I could listen to there accents from Now until the end of time, it's Pure Magic...Thank God for the American accent....And the USA of course....The BEST country on EARTH!!!!!!
extreme cases? well let's see, considering i've taken a year of linguistics study classes, let's see how "few" american english dialects i can think of off the top of my head:
there's gulf southern, cajun, hawaiian, eastern new england, ozarks, gullah, ocracoke, coastal southern, virginia piedmont, smokey mountain english, southern appalachian, ozark, south midland, southwestern, alaskan, pacific southwestern, rocky mountain, pennsylvania german, north midland, upper midwestern, chicago urban, boston urban, bonac, new york urban, inland northern, western new england, hudson valley, virginia tidewater, tangierman-talk...
as i said, that's right off the top of my head so it doesn't include the hundreds of sub-dialects. but you know, you could be right. i mean britain HAS to have more dialects than america! they're not nearly as culturally diverse and have only 20% of america's population! why didn't i think of that sooner? oh wait... BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE LOGICAL SENSE!
No because America is largely made up of cities, and as I'm sure you are aware as a linguistics student, cities have a tendancy to merge accents together. Whereas Britain is mostly made of villages and towns.
Not only that, but British Americans generally came from around the same place - the South West of England. Meaning, at least the English influence on your language is restricted. Most the Irish were from northern Ireland as well, and those are your two main influences.
ah, you must have me there, right? well let's do some math: according to census, 20.781% of americans DON'T live in urban areas, and that's a lax number, but we'll use it anyway. what's 20.781% of 307 million? 63,797, 670. why is this significant you ask? because that rural 20 percent of america is still 2 and a half MILLION more people than are in the entire united kingdom (northern ireland included).
Oh and something that needs to be added to the accents debate. For thousands of years we didn't have transport, therefore the accents of each town became pretty much isolated.
However, from its conception America had trains, and after only a few decades you had cars - invented by Karl Benz, NOT as commonly though Henry Ford ;-).
And so the accents didn't ever get much chance to ferment, if you will. Whereas in England they have.
lol, from it's conception we had trains eh? well, we were recognized as a country in 1783, and we didn't have a national railway system until 1869, 103 years later.
and no one said henry ford invented the car dumbass, everyone knows he devised the first affordable automobile. way to try to throw in some irrelevant tripe for extra points. benz didn't even invent the car, he invented the MODERN car. steam powered automobiles have be in existence since at least around the 1750s.
Well, most Americans tend to say the model T was the first car, and yes, that's absolute bollocks.
You didn't have a railway until 1869? I thought you'd have got them the same time as us pretty much and we first got them in the mid 1820s. Even so, you've had trains since only 100 years after your conception as a country.
Well American dialects have such a great diversity also due to all the influences from established immigrant communities from Italy, Latin America, eastern Europe, and West African slaves.....in short, non-Anglophone countries have all left their influences on American accents and dialects so there is a lot of divergence from anything purely Anglo-Hiberno-Scots influenced.
Have you ever been to the uk? Every town, village, hamlet, and city have their own distinctive accent. If someone from Harlepool was to speak to me, I'd know he's from Hartlepool, or if someone from Carlisle were to speak to me, I'd know he's from Carlisle - just from the accents. You can't do that in America, you can do it in the major cities where it's diverse, but not throughout the rest of the country where you have vast swades of land with the same accent.
You're certainly right that there are more accents *per square mile* in the UK, but American English still isn't as uniform as you make it out to be, and not just in big cities. There are many areas that have been very isolated from outside contact, particularly in the Appalachian mountains and fishing villages in the Chesapeake Bay, and as a result they have very distinct ways of speaking.
Also I think you might be exaggerating the differences between different English accents. Most English people from other parts of the country themselves don't even know how to make hairsplitting distinctions between these accents of neighboring villages as you claim to be able to.
No you can, I'm from Darlington, and I sound nothing like anyone from Durham, or Middlesbrough (granted these are towns, not villages), and they're only 10 miles away from me. Not only that, but places like Newcastle, just 30 miles away, have more than one distinct accent. Newcastle has 3 main accents in one town, most notably the 'geordie' accent. Of course here I am not referring to minority accents.
And then there's Leeds and Bradford, 4 miles apart, and yet a HUGE accent difference!
Well your ears are certainly much more attuned to subtle differences between English voices, while mine are much more attuned to differences between American voices. You may swear up and down that two accents are completely different that sound the same to me, while I may think likewise about accents here that you may not be able to tell the difference between. It's also a matter of perspective and familiarity with deviations from norms that we're used to.
Well, possibly the fact that I've lived in both countries, as I was born and raised in Britain, and spent 6 months in the US last year. Whereas you my dear, have spent your whole life in the US. And, as a hiker, I KNOW that there is a difference between accents between each other town and village as I experience it CONSTANTLY! Whereas when I was in America I could travel by car for miles, and miles, and when I got to my destination everyone sounded exactly the same as the last place!
Hey Dan, what make you think I have lived my whole life in the US. Does it state it on my profile? LOL! Sweetie I don't know you personally and frankly, could care less what you think seeing as you're just another anonymous name here on youtube. You have no idea where I have I have or haven't lived.
Well, you stated in other comments that you're from Chicago, and you also said " I would love to visit England", which basically to me states very clearly that you've never been here. Okay, so MAYBE you've lived outside of America, although that as well is rather improbable as only 16% of Americans own a passport during their lives.
However, before I sound too negative, I'd like to congratulate you on finding the 'u' in favourite :-).
I lived in England & Europe and many parts ofthe U.S.
There are different dialects in English villages and in the US. The big difference is that our dialects are REALLY spread out between states. There is a distinctive Texas accent as well as others. Some are hardto distinguish if you are not a native. Just the same as some villages would sound the same to a visitor but you could tell them apart as a native. What area of the states did you drive through?
Mostly the southern states around California across to Florida. I did get to see a bit of NY though. I appreciate that there are accents and dialects, but they are spread out like you said, and some whole states speak with very little variation. My point was that in the UK even YOU would recognise an accent shift between say - Darlington (my hometown), and Middlesbrough, which is the next town across. Or you could go south into Yorkshire, and within 5 miles you could hear the accent change again
Hey Neil from England(where in England are ya from?) I'm from Chicago and I'm a die hard White Sox south-sider. I worked at a cafe and three of my everyday customers are from the UK. One from Liverpool, one from Wales, and the last guy I'm not sure. I have a HUGE crush on the guy from Liverpool. I would love to visit England. I hate the Chicago accent, its so nasally.
-__-, you're English, and yet you just referred to football as 'soccer'. Would someone please explain to me why Americans use the word football for a sport which rarely involves feet? Surely 'soccer' (what a foul word), as a game which DOES require use of the feet, is TRUE football.
@dan892k7 we use american english uk english and american english are differnt irish is differnt the scottish and british and do not know we we call football soccer
Hey, the Boston Red Sox are my second favourite team! I'm not a big football, or soccer as we yanks call it, fan nor am a fan of American football either. I'm mostly into baseball and I sometimes keep an eye on hockey, Blackhawks are actually in the running so far. LOL! rugby has been catching my eye, its pretty big here in Chicago amoung the college crowds its starting to get into more high school programs as well.
@entrepreneur41 The only thing about the Southern dialect is that it is not standard for all areas. Louisiana, for example, has the typical Southern drawl, but it also has the Cajun French, and the Yat dialect (most commonly heard in the Greater New Orleans area). Yat has been compared to Brooklyn accents.
i hate new york lol all them damn italians
BostonBruinsOWN 1 month ago
@trilobright haha, bet your from Mass. because I say frappe too.
and LMAO snicklefritz
SJ41998 3 months ago in playlist Z to A: American Accents
lol the jambalaya guy sounds like my grandpa.
ThisIsZackary 3 months ago
A CABINET??!! That's almost as ridiculous as calling it a "milkshake", it's obviously a frappe!
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It's only because these savages from the north, east, and south lack the sophistication to properly form the correct words. We in California adhere to a higher standard of intelligence, and thus our regional lexicon is vastly superior to that of the more..uncouth members of our empire.
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08zinger 4 months ago
I have such a boring "accent". Western new England or whatever (im from Connecticut). So plain.
Pimetalz 6 months ago
@Pimetalz What? You are crazy! I know what you mean being from New England too and have the same thing. But I love it for it's plain, "flat", and "neutral" qualities.
stealthis 4 months ago
@stealthis Haha, yeah, I guess you're right. I feel as though everybody feels the same way about their own accent since you live with it.
Pimetalz 4 months ago
Res nexxx role
Natimotek 8 months ago
lol the people from the south can't read schlep
PiusRaps 8 months ago
lmao@gumbands and "hurry up hurry up!!" TOO EFFING CUTE
foldedintobeauty3 10 months ago
The woman at 2:42 is hot
hrmorgan1 11 months ago
At 4:10 it reminds me of my family's old 'family reunion' videos. I remember getting yelled at like that. I also remember that I had a horrible problem with adding 'yeah' or 'kno' to the end of my sentences. "Mama said come here, yeah!" or "I don't want to do my homework, kno." Is that a Louisiana thing?
geowhit88 1 year ago
The word "schlep" means a barge ( lighter ). This word is still in use in Serbia and around the Danube river.
Best regards from Belgrade, Serbia:)
sbd650 1 year ago
Why do they think it's schelp when it's schlep?
unclewiggly4176 1 year ago
@unclewiggly4176 dyslexia
Malocosa 1 year ago
I don't want a Pap Smear you stupid New Yorker give me a Hush Puppy!!!
Cougar139tweak 1 year ago
@kellynch,are you Jewish?It sounds jewish.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
knowledge of your own country: learn what means what and where.no excuses.when i go to the south of ireland i know the lingo even though some of their accents grate on me and some are hard to understand.
kathryn8169 1 year ago
Oh whatever, acting like she's never heard the word rubberband.
TheVinceLyons 1 year ago
I'm from NYC,and I never heard of that word schlepp before in my life.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
@98bigbutt I'm from NYC also, and everyone I know uses that word. Maybe it depends on where you're from. My mother is from NYC also, and she uses "schlep" all the time too.
kellynch 1 year ago
@kellynch,Really because I was born and raised in NYC and I've never heard of the word "Schlepp" before.
98bigbutt 5 months ago
@98bigbutt i think its a yiddish thing.....
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Chloe9916 1 year ago
Oh my god! The hand game the little girls were playing! I totally remember it! And I would have been about their age, too.
Brandon112878 1 year ago
I thought we lived in an interconnected world, and yet here are people oblivious to the fact that these items are called something different outside of their little hometown. Gumbands? Seriously?
baigandine 1 year ago 3
@baigandine I was especially surprised that it took her awhile to think of the "correct" word. I'm from the Midwest, and I've never heard the use of "gumband" before...it must be a very very regional word.
bernlin2000 10 months ago
@baigandine its called keeping culture alive even though there might be a homegenized version of the word there trying to say they'd rather keep there old way - and whats wrong with that
RugbyDemon6789 4 months ago
New Yorkers are so annoying and cheesy sounding.
PupuTheClown 1 year ago
This is really lame
mariostud 1 year ago
It's late..I need to go to shlep now.
mexnuk 1 year ago 3
Yeah! I PAKH MA KA' IN DA PAK'IN' LAT AN' GOANGETTA CAWFEE CABINET!!!!! Whoo! Rhode Island!
xhilononi234 1 year ago 2
OMG that child in the red shirt at 4:35 was just TOO adorable!!!
FMLFYT 2 years ago 2
I've lived in different areas of the US, and the MOST varied nonstandard American English is the African American vernacular as spoken in Atlanta. I had to live there several years before I started understanding.
tonylachief 2 years ago
Yeah, I know what you mean.
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i hate them jew bastards
NyYankees1985 2 years ago
wow i've never heard anyone call a rubberband a gumband :/ that's honestly very funny sounding.
and i've always heard the word jambalaya but i never knew what it meant. thanks video. ha
antigogglin? wtf. ha. wouldn't it just be simpler to say crooked?
although i guess that's no different than ohioans saying pop instead of soda or hair doodles instead of hair ties. you know the thing you use to put your hair into a ponytail?
Kelsie154 2 years ago
In another video a very talented voice talent from Scotland actually said that he couldn't tell the difference between Hawaiian pidgin and General American. Those two dialects are as different to us Americans as Spanish is to French. I think the fellow's ears simply just weren't attuned to notice the vast differences. Similarly I have a hard time telling the difference between all the accents from the north of England since they all sound semi-Scottish to me. Perspective, man, perspective.
protosswannabe 2 years ago
i'll have summa dat jambalay!
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
goog ol' georgia southen belle heyah! I jus wanted to let ya'll know it'sa raynin a regula frowg strangla owt heyah, and I rekon jus as soown as it'sa pas' us the fowg aughta be so thick you kan jus drive a thumb tek inta it and heng yer coawt! Ya'll be safe now! XOXO - little miz scarlet
ashercaliff 2 years ago
I rmember the time I ordered a GRINDER while I was in Boston. The clerk gave me a look like I had two heads. lol
awesome220 2 years ago
u dont sound english ur american
jasdanrfcuk 2 years ago
For the person who says they're from Chicago and have no accent, that's not true. Everyone technically has an accent. Plus, there are definitely some Chicagoisms. Gym shoes=running shoes, pop=soda, "budge"=to cut in line (although this might be more of a wisconsin thing). i go to school in southern indiana, and I'm always getting made fun of for my accent and the way I say my "A"s, like "beagh" for "bag."
AubreyMcfate 3 years ago
i've lived in souther indiana like my whole life and i sound different from the people that live around here maybe it is because my mom is from northern/central ohio, idk?
immasuperninja 3 years ago
Soda is the word changed by dialect, not pop. Pop is used in every English speaking nation except America.
dan892k7 2 years ago
and here you go again spreading your ignorance. explain to me how "pop" is more likely the original term considering that the name soda comes from the fact that the primary ingredient is (duh duh-duh!) SODA WATER!
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
Carbonated water was invented in the town I currently live (wikipedia just informed me, how nice ^_^ ), Leeds. And it was known as carbonated water, not soda water. And it was dubbed as 'pop'. America had already split off from Britain by this point, and due to tension between us, you never had it until 1806, when Benjamin Silliman (sillyman!? Haha!) invented it (though we already had it :-p) in Yale.
So there you go mister Linguistics :-)
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
hahaha, wrong again buddy. the term "soda" dates back to 1558 to my recollection, while robert southey didn't coin the term "pop" until 1812, and even when he did coin it, check out the context: "A new manufactory of a nectar, between soda-water and ginger-beer, and called pop, because pop goes the cork when it is drawn."
so obviously soda was first, because he mentions it in the same statement where he first coins the term "pop".
so there you go mr. idiot
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
How does the word soda date back to 1558 if it wasn't even invented then?
Dandelion and Burdock was the first ever fizzy drink, and it was dubbed 'pop' due to the bubbles inside it.
Did you just call me mr. idiot? Are you 5 years old?
There are 72 million people in the UK, not 60 million.
Even people living in the rural US have only settled there quite recently, and therefore their accents haven't diverged. Also, there is fast connections to cities even from there.
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
actually, it was termed "pop" due to the fact that the cork made a popping sound when uncorked. why would you call it pop for being fizzy?
and your numbers are quite off there. according to your very own government, there's 61.4 million people in the UK, not 72.
and the people in the rural US have been there for quite some time. have you ever even been to america? for hundreds of miles in some places that's all you can find!
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
NO! The first American to take the English word 'pop', and use it in advertising was Robert Southey, but he took the phrase from the English usage, which has been used for centuries now. We never even called it soda water like you, it's carbonated water for us, so it makes no logical sense that we'd call it soda! It was called pop, because it was aimed at upper class children, and it was meant to signify the bubbles popping at the top.
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
haha, way to do your research. robert southey couldn't have been the first american to do anything: he was british!
type "history and timeline of soft drinks" on google, and you'll see, soda was, in fact, first.
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
Yes, but he was the first to advertise it as pop in the US ;-). He was British, but as many companies, he operated trans-atlantic.
dan892k7 2 years ago
and yes, i did call you mister idiot. where is your room to talk when you yourself said "So there you go mister Linguistics :-)"
quite a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
Yes but, "mister linguistics" is an ironic statement, praying on the fact that I had outwitted your remark. And then you replied with a childish, and not even offensive, "mister idiot".
It just goes against all conventions of how to insulting someone ;-)
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
that new yorker babe is gone at around 2:40. talking bout schlepping around...mmmmmmmmmmh
jazzbobobo 3 years ago
what the hell are you talking about?
awesome220 2 years ago
I find it so fascinating that we can live in such close proximity to others but speak so differently....I love it!!!!
SHRINA17 3 years ago
The Mets....Whoooooo????
What about those Red Soxxxx Ya mean.....LOL
Go Red Soxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Neil from England.
entrepreneur41 3 years ago
How interesting! I def. learned some new words ie antigogglin. Also, I didn't realize that people from Louisiana had such distinct accents.
Aritul 3 years ago
I really like watching these Video's, I Love America, and I just Adore the American people, Black or White!!
The way they all talk in the South is like Pure Magic, It's Lovely!!
Neil from England.
entrepreneur41 3 years ago 32
Hey Neil
I'm from Chicago(I have no accent) didn't realize have diverse America is linguistically, but what I love more are the different accents and dialects from you guys across the pond! I'm an English Compisition major and many classes I've had are British Lit, which means we have to learn the history of English/British/Scottish/Welsh language and literature. Its so interesting; Picts, Britons, Celts, Scots, Saxons, and so on. So many dialects and languages.
josephvanorsby78 3 years ago
Hi there Lady from Chicago....I bet your a Bears fan.....LOL
I've been to Chicago a few times, I really like it!!
I must spend more times there one day.
Thank you for your email, it did not give me an option to Reply, that's why I came here to reply.
I just Love the way Americans talk, I could listen to there accents from Now until the end of time, it's Pure Magic...Thank God for the American accent....And the USA of course....The BEST country on EARTH!!!!!!
Neil from England.
entrepreneur41 3 years ago
i been around the world, and i gots to tell you, ain't no such thing as an "american accent"
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
Most Americans speak a similar accent - these are extreme cases. In Britain there's a different accent in pretty much every town!
dan892k7 2 years ago
extreme cases? well let's see, considering i've taken a year of linguistics study classes, let's see how "few" american english dialects i can think of off the top of my head:
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
there's gulf southern, cajun, hawaiian, eastern new england, ozarks, gullah, ocracoke, coastal southern, virginia piedmont, smokey mountain english, southern appalachian, ozark, south midland, southwestern, alaskan, pacific southwestern, rocky mountain, pennsylvania german, north midland, upper midwestern, chicago urban, boston urban, bonac, new york urban, inland northern, western new england, hudson valley, virginia tidewater, tangierman-talk...
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
as i said, that's right off the top of my head so it doesn't include the hundreds of sub-dialects. but you know, you could be right. i mean britain HAS to have more dialects than america! they're not nearly as culturally diverse and have only 20% of america's population! why didn't i think of that sooner? oh wait... BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE LOGICAL SENSE!
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
No because America is largely made up of cities, and as I'm sure you are aware as a linguistics student, cities have a tendancy to merge accents together. Whereas Britain is mostly made of villages and towns.
Not only that, but British Americans generally came from around the same place - the South West of England. Meaning, at least the English influence on your language is restricted. Most the Irish were from northern Ireland as well, and those are your two main influences.
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
ah, you must have me there, right? well let's do some math: according to census, 20.781% of americans DON'T live in urban areas, and that's a lax number, but we'll use it anyway. what's 20.781% of 307 million? 63,797, 670. why is this significant you ask? because that rural 20 percent of america is still 2 and a half MILLION more people than are in the entire united kingdom (northern ireland included).
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
Oh and something that needs to be added to the accents debate. For thousands of years we didn't have transport, therefore the accents of each town became pretty much isolated.
However, from its conception America had trains, and after only a few decades you had cars - invented by Karl Benz, NOT as commonly though Henry Ford ;-).
And so the accents didn't ever get much chance to ferment, if you will. Whereas in England they have.
Therefore making perfect logical sense.
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
lol, from it's conception we had trains eh? well, we were recognized as a country in 1783, and we didn't have a national railway system until 1869, 103 years later.
and no one said henry ford invented the car dumbass, everyone knows he devised the first affordable automobile. way to try to throw in some irrelevant tripe for extra points. benz didn't even invent the car, he invented the MODERN car. steam powered automobiles have be in existence since at least around the 1750s.
PooPoo2U 2 years ago
Well, most Americans tend to say the model T was the first car, and yes, that's absolute bollocks.
You didn't have a railway until 1869? I thought you'd have got them the same time as us pretty much and we first got them in the mid 1820s. Even so, you've had trains since only 100 years after your conception as a country.
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
Well American dialects have such a great diversity also due to all the influences from established immigrant communities from Italy, Latin America, eastern Europe, and West African slaves.....in short, non-Anglophone countries have all left their influences on American accents and dialects so there is a lot of divergence from anything purely Anglo-Hiberno-Scots influenced.
protosswannabe 2 years ago
Have you ever been to the uk? Every town, village, hamlet, and city have their own distinctive accent. If someone from Harlepool was to speak to me, I'd know he's from Hartlepool, or if someone from Carlisle were to speak to me, I'd know he's from Carlisle - just from the accents. You can't do that in America, you can do it in the major cities where it's diverse, but not throughout the rest of the country where you have vast swades of land with the same accent.
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
You're certainly right that there are more accents *per square mile* in the UK, but American English still isn't as uniform as you make it out to be, and not just in big cities. There are many areas that have been very isolated from outside contact, particularly in the Appalachian mountains and fishing villages in the Chesapeake Bay, and as a result they have very distinct ways of speaking.
protosswannabe 2 years ago
Also I think you might be exaggerating the differences between different English accents. Most English people from other parts of the country themselves don't even know how to make hairsplitting distinctions between these accents of neighboring villages as you claim to be able to.
protosswannabe 2 years ago
No you can, I'm from Darlington, and I sound nothing like anyone from Durham, or Middlesbrough (granted these are towns, not villages), and they're only 10 miles away from me. Not only that, but places like Newcastle, just 30 miles away, have more than one distinct accent. Newcastle has 3 main accents in one town, most notably the 'geordie' accent. Of course here I am not referring to minority accents.
And then there's Leeds and Bradford, 4 miles apart, and yet a HUGE accent difference!
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
Well your ears are certainly much more attuned to subtle differences between English voices, while mine are much more attuned to differences between American voices. You may swear up and down that two accents are completely different that sound the same to me, while I may think likewise about accents here that you may not be able to tell the difference between. It's also a matter of perspective and familiarity with deviations from norms that we're used to.
protosswannabe 2 years ago
Dan where do you get your information from? I only ask so that I avoid using the site or books myself.
ksb78 2 years ago
Well, possibly the fact that I've lived in both countries, as I was born and raised in Britain, and spent 6 months in the US last year. Whereas you my dear, have spent your whole life in the US. And, as a hiker, I KNOW that there is a difference between accents between each other town and village as I experience it CONSTANTLY! Whereas when I was in America I could travel by car for miles, and miles, and when I got to my destination everyone sounded exactly the same as the last place!
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
Hey Dan, what make you think I have lived my whole life in the US. Does it state it on my profile? LOL! Sweetie I don't know you personally and frankly, could care less what you think seeing as you're just another anonymous name here on youtube. You have no idea where I have I have or haven't lived.
ksb78 2 years ago
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Well, you stated in other comments that you're from Chicago, and you also said " I would love to visit England", which basically to me states very clearly that you've never been here. Okay, so MAYBE you've lived outside of America, although that as well is rather improbable as only 16% of Americans own a passport during their lives.
However, before I sound too negative, I'd like to congratulate you on finding the 'u' in favourite :-).
Dan
dan892k7 2 years ago
I lived in England & Europe and many parts ofthe U.S.
There are different dialects in English villages and in the US. The big difference is that our dialects are REALLY spread out between states. There is a distinctive Texas accent as well as others. Some are hardto distinguish if you are not a native. Just the same as some villages would sound the same to a visitor but you could tell them apart as a native. What area of the states did you drive through?
idahopeterson 2 years ago
Mostly the southern states around California across to Florida. I did get to see a bit of NY though. I appreciate that there are accents and dialects, but they are spread out like you said, and some whole states speak with very little variation. My point was that in the UK even YOU would recognise an accent shift between say - Darlington (my hometown), and Middlesbrough, which is the next town across. Or you could go south into Yorkshire, and within 5 miles you could hear the accent change again
dan892k7 2 years ago
So, if you want to avoid my source, then just don't come to England. Don't worry, I'm sure you won't be missed.
dan892k7 2 years ago
Hey Neil from England(where in England are ya from?) I'm from Chicago and I'm a die hard White Sox south-sider. I worked at a cafe and three of my everyday customers are from the UK. One from Liverpool, one from Wales, and the last guy I'm not sure. I have a HUGE crush on the guy from Liverpool. I would love to visit England. I hate the Chicago accent, its so nasally.
ksb78 2 years ago
I'm from 25 Miles South of Manchester, England.
Liverpool are my Soccer Team, I've been a fan All my life, been to Liverpool Many Times!!
It must be that Scouse Accent you fell for?? ......lol
I live in WV now, married to an American lady.
I'm a Red Sox Fan. I've not been to Chicago for many years now, but it's 1 Cool city!!
I flew over the Lake into Chicago back in 2002, that sure did scare the Crap out of me, it was Way to ow for me....lol
Have a great weekend,
Neil.
entrepreneur41 2 years ago
-__-, you're English, and yet you just referred to football as 'soccer'. Would someone please explain to me why Americans use the word football for a sport which rarely involves feet? Surely 'soccer' (what a foul word), as a game which DOES require use of the feet, is TRUE football.
dan892k7 2 years ago
Who knows? It became popular, and it stuck.
Language is like that.
kirkfried 1 year ago
Okay, enjoy your games of handegg :-).
dan892k7 1 year ago
@dan892k7 we use american english uk english and american english are differnt irish is differnt the scottish and british and do not know we we call football soccer
SuperTonyOrtiz 7 months ago
Hey, the Boston Red Sox are my second favourite team! I'm not a big football, or soccer as we yanks call it, fan nor am a fan of American football either. I'm mostly into baseball and I sometimes keep an eye on hockey, Blackhawks are actually in the running so far. LOL! rugby has been catching my eye, its pretty big here in Chicago amoung the college crowds its starting to get into more high school programs as well.
ksb78 2 years ago
@entrepreneur41 The only thing about the Southern dialect is that it is not standard for all areas. Louisiana, for example, has the typical Southern drawl, but it also has the Cajun French, and the Yat dialect (most commonly heard in the Greater New Orleans area). Yat has been compared to Brooklyn accents.
Belle0010 1 year ago