Thom Steinbeck on journalism and Vietnam

[myhoangsa]

this clip is made by vc who stand for devil and currently abuse their own people. the purpose of this clip is to move human focus on the old stuffs and vc intend to hide of what they are doing weird stuff on human right in VN.

[myhoangsa]

shoot a terrorist nguyen van lem had come to town and had killed more than 35 innocent. is it dirty? if it is then all US soldier who are fighting terrorist in the world is doing a dirty job, is it right? I do not think so.

any one blamed on Mr. Nguyen ngoc loan was dirty was wrong, crazy. meaning that they missed the previous scenes where the terrorist Nguyen van lem did killed more than 35 innocent on south freedom vietnamese.

a picture does not tell you true story !!

[myhoangsa]

vc has broke in vnch territory, the land of freedom and had killed whole bunch innocent. Mr. Nguyen ngoc loan who was Marshall and was in charged of fighting against vc terrorists. Mr. Nguyen ngoc loan just did what a Marshall uses to behaved to the vc bandits, robbers.

[WHYandIFandWILL1]

là môt người việt nam va gần như thế trước trong gia đình tôi đều theo chế độ cũ của vnch và đã hi sinh nhưng nếu một ngày kia khi đất nước nguy biến thì chắc chắn rằng tôi sẽ là một trong hàng triệu thanh niên việt nam cầm súng chiến đấu.nếu mĩ hoặc trung quốc ném bom nguyên tử thì sao???đó là điều e ngại của nhiều người.nếu có chết đi thì tôi cũng mỉm cười vì đã chết vì việt nam và chết cho chế độ đã sinh ra tôi.chế độ này đã cho tôi cuộc sống.cho tôi gia đình hạnh phúc và cho tôi hòa bình

[factionxvt408x]

@miner49er356

VC's wear uniforms? I don't remember that. VC's are the southern communist support group that dresses just like any other person but then pulls out an assault rifle out of nowhere. I know the NVA's wore uniforms though.

[50poiuyt]

@miner49er356 what a pity,"tortured " only!

[50poiuyt]

@miner49er356 If Vietnamese saw this foto in the war time,they would kill all of American pilots

[factionxvt408x]

@50poiuyt

I'm Viet...But i'm also Catholic and execution is not part of our doctrine. But if you ask me as a vietnamese person if i think that we should've defended democratic vietnam...then yes, do everything you can to defend he republic.

[50poiuyt]

@factionxvt408x Câm mẹ nó cái mõm heo của chúng mày lại.Bao nhiêu người yêu nước đã chết dưới bàn tay nhơ nhớp của đám công giáo chúng mày?Cút mẹ chúng mày đi với cái thằng Giesu nửa đực nửa cái của chúng mày ấy.

[50poiuyt]

VC would kill more bastards like Loan after 1975

[tim666661]

Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist founder, is a disguting TRAITOR and MURDERER. He was a member of the Third Communist International established in 1919 by Lenin. He gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos with large oil resources to Red China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.

[TheVchunter]

Loan did the right thing and too bad he got caught by American press. Who would justify the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Vietnamese people in land reform of 54, tet offensive of 68, and post-75 mass executions in re-education camps and at seas (boat people) all done by or caused by the communists. And who would justify the deaths of my grandparents and uncles who were all shot alive by the communists in the execution style in front of our family members? Wake up you foolish!

[redgar1012]

I love it when a communist dog has a bad day, and that's why I love the General's gun, the Smith and Wesson Model 49 Bodyguard in nickle, even more. That's why I have one, too. You never know when a stray rabid (red) dog needs to be shot.

God Bless General Ngoc Loan. If only he were still living and I could shake his hand and say "Salut"!

[manomania1]

I'd like to see you get shot. I'd Salut that shit too

[12tlamson]

I double in what Loan say, If this man (and some other) kill a colleague family Loan need keep him alive for more interrogation.

You are adult enough to stay calm and not to say such thing.

Stay neutral for what you do not know exactly to broaden your knowledge, it is my advise.

[nguyept]

"Stay neutral," the executed a VC Bảy Lém terrorist during the chaostic war in which VNCH defended themselves and its non-commie Southerners. You must be a very slow learner. The North commies took advantage of the Traditional Tết Celebration, calling for a truce and turned arround attacking the South, burrying alive more than 5000 Southerners in Huế city. Make a comparision, 1 Bảy Lém terrorist vs. 5000 innocent Southerners. Great job, general Loan.

[12tlamson]

Think twice before comment, and you do not know who I am to say that. I know your Loan do great job but for NVC (got it yourself).

I have no comment on the 68 Lunar new year. Remember, I did not support you mean I love current VN government. But every thing from your words about current VN are bad thing which easily is found that a propaganda.

[nguyept]

1 VC Bảy Lém terrorist vs. 5000 innocent Southerners required one to rethink of the commies. You must be joking. Do you need to rethink about commie legendary hero, the 8 year-old comrade Lê Văn Tám who bravely detonated bomb, not only kill himself as well as destroy the Thị Nghè ammunition center. No comment on the 68 Tết Offensive? How can it be? Not enough bloodshed. By the way, Loan did a very bad job defending us, 1 vs. 5000. Should it be 5000 vs. 1.

[12tlamson]

Hue68 is only one of bad things you heard behind this war. I have no comment cuz i do not know exactly. however I believe it is real.

I do not think NVC is all good, and SVR is so in both side. What I argue here is why Loan did that thing in front of the press? what statement he tried to make to the world? seem to me, it is stupid execution and there is no respect for Loan.

[nguyept]

Land Reform of 1954, Farmer Rebellion of 1955 at Ba làng, Thanh Hoa and Quỳnh Lưu, Nghệ An, Nhân Văn Giai Phẩm, etc. Enslave hundred thousand and thousand of the Southerners in the labor camp or half of million people died on the high sea. Were these not the bad things according to your moral ethical definition, if you have any? Nhiễu điều phủ lấy giá gương, người trong một nước phải thương nhau cùng - mean anything, my dear little commie sympathizer.

[12tlamson]

Agree, there were many bad thing, terrible things in the part.

Back to nowadays, I go travel over our Viet Nam, almost province.I found that our civilians live in happiness except where is on progress of urbanization. they are happier than me, may be more than you and I can see the same when in Singapore.

I think you should visit VietNam, the N,S village

you may get what i say

[12tlamson]

Also, I never feel sorry for them living in poor. I only feel sorry for me why I can not find that happiness is simple concept like them.

[TheSpiritOfApril1975]

The spirit of April 30

Every Vietnamese, every family and the whole nation will bear this historic day in mind forever as it marked the complete liberation of Southern Vietnam and national unification.

Over thirty years have past but the event of April 30, 1975 remains as a significant landmark in world history of national liberation in the 20th century.

[TheSpiritOfApril1975]

The world admired Vietnam for its August 1945 Revolution and 1954 Dien Bien Phu victory which smashed the colonialist shackles and its war of resistance against the US imperialists, which culminated in the great victory of Spring 1975.

With the passage of time, the invaluable historic lesson imbued with the indomitable spirit of April 30, 1975 still carries its weight.

[TheSpiritOfApril1975]

Our people always wish for peace, national independence and freedom. However, in its long history, the Vietnamese nation has been assigned to cope with different imperialists in different times. The uneven development of human society has created big, small, powerful and weak countries. When powerful nations wanted to use violence to oppress and force smaller countries to knuckle under, imperialism appeared.

[TheSpiritOfApril1975]

At first, new imperial nations proved to be very powerful and able to topple and mount punitive expeditions against smaller countries across the globe. In the end, they were doomed to humiliating failure. When our people were forced to fight foreign invaders, they grouped together to form a solid unity bloc, ready to overcome every difficulty and challenge, even to sacrifice their lives for protection of every inch of national territory.

[TheSpiritOfApril1975]

In retrospect, we now understand more about the indomitable strength of national unity coupled with the wisdom of our entire people and army under the clear-sighted leadership of the Party.

Bearing in our mind the spirit of moving mountains we are sure to overcome all major difficulties and challenges to keep pace with the trend of our time.

[TheSpiritOfApril1975]

The significance of the April 30, 1975 victory is a great source of encouragement for us today and in the future. It provides fresh impetus for us to steadily advance to socialism and successfully realise the goal of a powerful nation living in an equal, democratic and civilized society.

Source: VOV

army. qdnd. vn/vietnam. Policy-Society. qdnd

[DitMeManhDungTriet]

BTW the living standard of Vietnamese is still 1/3 to 1/4 of Thai people. And Vietnamese don't have any basic human rights nor freedom of election or speech. Vietnamese have to pay the terrible price for the murderous and stupid ruling by Viet Congs

[DitMeManhDungTriet]

VCs sucked Chinese dix, fought against them, then went back to sucking their dix

VCs fought against USA then turned around and asked to suck their dix

VCs destroyed and murdered North and South domestic wealthy/capitalist then begged to suck dix of Asian Capitalists then Westerners

VCs caused the death of 3 millions, tortured and enslaved 80 millions for decades.

But they never accept their responsibilities nor apologized to the Vnese.

Yup, that are the talents and moral of VCs and Ho Cho Minh

[qlvnch5475]

kẻ nào thi hành luật ruộng đất giết hàng ngìn người vô tội? là HCM

kẻ nào ký văn kiện bán đất cho Tàu? là P.v.Đồng.

kẻ nào ngăn sông cấm chợ, đưa dân lên vùng rừng thiêng nước độc? là Lê Duẩn.

kẻ nào đang đưa Tàu sang khai thác boxit, bất chấp nguy hiểm cho Quốc gia? là chế độ CS.

[daouu]

one shot killed 2 beasts: murderous VC and ugli animal.

[nguyetcam7]

The general's shot was for his country. GENERAL LOAN IS REAL HERO BY SACRIFICING HIS OWN REPUTATION TO PROTECT HIS COUNTRY!!

[ippikineko]

HIS BLOOD FOR THE COUNTRY,,REAL HERO

[ehunter2]

Another lying piece of shit leftist journalist with an agenda.

[1337905]

the war, yah know wasn't going as planned. bombing civilians in the north and in cambodia was a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN thing. let's not forget, nixon never asked congress to murder 600,000 cambodians through the bombings. this action led to the rise of the bloodiest regime in the world at the time, murdering 3 million of its citizens.

[ehunter2]

I was in a music store the other day. The usual assortment of morons were there. You know the kind..tattoos everwhere, pierced noses, blue hair. Listening to them talk was like listening to Jane Goodalls chimpanzees..grunts, cursewords, slang. Nothing coherent or intelligent. Upon leaving I noticed an amazing thing ..a BOOK for sale

A Book popular with illiterate morons!? What could it be?..Well of course Noam Chomsky's latest!!. Seems like Chimpsky has a highly predictable audience.

[oldjarheadvet]

Pulitzer Steinbeck:

Communists=good; US troops=Nazis

American Journalists=war hero; US troops=Nazis

Berkeley Student Union=war heroes; Us Troops=Nazis. Yea, fair, balanced, reasonable. Walter Kronkite is retired, a millionaire. His favorite past time, sailing his million dollar yacht. Yep, America is going to pay dearly for all of this excellent journalism: Nazi American government. Bastard US Marines. Crazy Vietnam War Vets. US atrocities victimizing the world. Hero draft dodgers. Yep

[oldjarheadvet]

And all of the so called 'iconic' pictures. Not one of them is accurate, they all have some perverted distortion. That's not journalism any more than Jane Fonda's 1972 communist propaganda speeches incouraging the deaths of US criminal troops. Absolutely incredible. But, the price has yet to be paid for this hypocracy. The American privileged men and the US media are America's weakness. Bin Laden knows. He needs only exhaust the fighting troops and the rest will follow quite predictably.

[oldjarheadvet]

The incredible hypocracy of this joker (journalist) Steinbeck leads us to the legacy of Vietnam. Notably, US Vietnam Vets are not Nazis and never were. We were the good guys. Now, the majority of American privileged men need only say ATROCITY or My Lai to 'honorably' shirk war duties.Bin Laden knows most American men will never fight for the United States ever. They will sabatoge the US government,run or pretend service.Bin Laden only needs to exhaust the fighting troops.Then it is game over.

[1337905]

yeah good guys, destroying and burning villages was such an honorable act. spraying napalm all over the forest was also honorable. such real heroes.

[andersmusician]

killing commies is for humanity's sake.

[1337905]

change the way war was being conducted and maybe you can do something for humanities sake.

isolationist ftw anyways.

[oldjarheadvet]

Yep. 'Dispatches' is a great read showing the intense hatred the US media had for US troops. The author, a US journalist hero wrote of US Marines "the dirty little killer kids.."; Yep, for forty years I've been a war criminal in my own country. My crime, fighting in Vietnam as a Marine and never apologizing. Walter Kronkite, Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Ron Kovich,the Berkely Student Union are the American heroes, S.Vietnanese abd US Marines are Nazis. Incredible, absolultely incredible.