HotS Custom - The Power of the Shredder - Shredder Drops

[ngkien1530]

This is not how Shredders work

Our units walk to that radius = shut it up

Enemies shot at that thing = shut it up

[TgsMaverick]

Simple counter: run workers away, send in a roach to kill it. Longer range and very low tech unit.

[jah2188]

so zerg players are gonna have to always have a spine in the back of the minerals just incase

[1337Wunderbaum]

isn`t dropping siege tanks behind the mineral line enough?

this thing is actully going to kill evry drone on the mineral line, IMBA as fuck!

[1manzoo]

@1337Wunderbaum It's only imba if you are not smart enough to run your workers. Think about it: shredders can't move while activated. You can just run your workers and kill it with a few stalkers. eZ

[1337Wunderbaum]

@1manzoo but as Z i only have lings/banes/infestor/muta and all those unit`s are weak vs shredder

[1manzoo]

@1337Wunderbaum lol. When you actually understand this game, you won't be complaining so much. There is a way to stop everything. Don't bother crying about this until HotS actually comes out and Blizzard is done creating and balancing the units.

[1337Wunderbaum]

@1manzoo Well i sure do hope they dont plan that roaches is supposed to counter this cuz if they do thye are completly retarded

[MutenRoscher]

@1337Wunderbaum so what should counter it? ultralisks?

[1337Wunderbaum]

@MutenRoscher No just zeerglings/banes/mutas. atleast hopfully there will be time to kill the shredder berfore it will kill all ur stuff

[MutenRoscher]

@1337Wunderbaum ah ic ... well it seems it will need some time to get "in charge...(?)" so u can react propberly if its gonna be dropped in ur eco

[1337Wunderbaum]

@MutenRoscher yeah, Just look at the power on that thing, if all you have is lings to kill it you will have to loose about a 100 of them just to kill it when it`s charged. Hopefully it will take about 5-10 sec for it to plant

[obliviousutube]

fuck off really why can it plant on creep?

[balernoraccon]

@obliviousutube why not? thats like saying that you can burrow on lowered supply depots.

[Teeziel]

they are doing this so there is better defense against early game cheeses and rushes its going to make it alot more like BW.. no more 6 pools marine scv allins, zerg also get the thing like this that produces those non stop units.

[22015slee]

@Teeziel ... Shredder is factory + tech lab tech, so it's technically not possible to have your shredder out when 6 pool gets to your base. It's primarily for army movement, so that the army moves around while the shredder defends. And the swarm host is i think either lair or infestation pit tech, so it's impossible also for defending cheeses.

[geganobo]

@Teeziel You forgot that terran is the only race immume to early game chees

[RoederGaming]

Another OP unit for Terran. That's standard, and it has always been like that. Wouldn't want them to L2P, now would we?

[Preevailer]

@RoederGaming how can you tell if it's OP before the game is even out yet? O.o

[rufia75]

lol production tab 0:53 18 DRONES

[carnavalmad]

Shreaders cant be deployed with enemy units near them

[m03hawkman]

@carnavalmad you mean ally units?

[carnavalmad]

@m03hawkman I mean enemy, When its put down, no enemy units can be in range of it.

[22015slee]

@carnavalmad No it's allied units. That's what the Blizzard team intended, so that this isn't a part of a death ball.

[carnavalmad]

@22015slee No, When it is initially placed no enemy units can be near it, once it is turned on, it will turn off when friendly units are near it

[22015slee]

@carnavalmad Uh... No. It doesn't matter whether enemy units are near when it grounds itself and stations somewhere, allied units are the only things that matter. Which does beg the question, what about your own workers and allied units in team games?

[Lubie225]

lol shredder what a stupid fking idea..

[JLAEBB]

I'm sorry but do terran really need more harrasment units?

[Messiahs]

@JLAEBB

honestly I'd say no^^

It looks like you need to have roaches now to defend against drops...

[ThatBuzyOne]

@JLAEBB i think blizzard said that the shredder won't be able to do any damage to workers. I'm not sure though.

[usabbott48g]

I want this video on my Liquid mini E310 unit.

[rolandhensle24]

Your vid went viral on Kyiv

[ManifestFate]

Lol shredder is the worst idea I've ever seen blizzard come up with.

[thebole123]

probubly will nerf HP of sreder... so quins can kill em.... or yust move your workers...

[Subject790]

I love how people are going to cry until the end of time about the shredder even though it does essentially the same thing as lurkers only worse.

[MrGPgue0857]

WTF

[mannymarkful]

and no one is complaining against the toss abilitie to make pylons cannons noch imagine this at 0:37 with 3 pylons coming from the scouting probe



[patrick98ization]

NICE MAN

[emikochan13]

I think I just threw up a little.

I sense a spine crawler style nerf coming. 12 second deploy time :P

[dark31521]

T is fine Z,P L2P =D

[SStrangeMoFlo]

lol, they will definitally take away the medavac shredder combo

[TheMondaySSS]

omg, that stupid baldy screw it all up again

[RedOrchestraTV]

That zerg just never learned 00:35

[hopefirehsu1]

it's cool, doesn't it?

[orangepie790319]

WTF .........

T IMBA

[KaoOwen]

damn..............

[Scandium21]

stop messing up this game plz

[TheShad0wer]

This are never the real stats, but nt.

[S2076]

So, it takes 1,5 queens to kill one?

Looks like this will be quite the bronze killer though...

[augdevitry]

this is broken

[SoniStreet]

I hope it makes it live like this, there will be much more interesting GSL games where ppl start to panic!

[Kniga07]

Who would think that terran is getting most ridiculous units.

[Spixel90]

op

[Ketroc21]

shredders are intended for zoning, not for offense. My guess is they'll add a burrow time of like 20sec for it.

[Wepper1]

@Ketroc21 For that purpose they should reduce it's range considerably as well. I find that the range of this unit is just way too high.

[det10628]

I wouldn't play terran cuz i have self respect

[DIGGLA420]

@trandachtomy That's actually hilarious.

[ianfc89]

i personally think... from a balance point of view....that the shredder needs to heal automatically as time goes by...you know just to balance things :)

[leerussell50]

Dont try to stur up hipe plz theres a thing called beta and alot of people will ignore that fact and just rage

[DaRealDJ]

Zerg couldn't have handled that worse. Especially since he had spinecrawlers nearby which wouldn't take damage.

[voice1900]

fucking imbalance, shame for terran to have this fucking thing

[400yuan]

sorry!!

[zincmo1]

wtf

[aces3731]

It's cool!! isn't it?

[brandnewhao]

TerranCraft

[dddddddddddd71]

@brandnewhao harden up u need to blame yourself when u loose not the game

[kuantingchen]

Please remove the unit!

[galatse1]

Can't wait to use this to rape out those zergs

[MrShiftowns]

@galatse1 Rape out? what do you mean by that?



[linceass]

Wxxx Txx Fxxxx!

[suzulala]

mother f*** , T OP!!!

[Mraofrot]

Who will pay 59.99 to get raped by terran using this xxxx

[jeppyjoh]

Finnaly a good counter against my enemy trying to win

[ThisNameIsBanned]

The Shredder simply seems incredible boring.

The design is flawed right away.

[inZaNeSc2]

And you thought hellion drop was messy enough .... (before blue flame nerf) sigh .....

[blAkeMusic4Life]

Pretty sure that the range does is actually bigger than here. You can see that in the official clip from Blizzcon. There is a range "line" there, it looks like range six...

[krispwnsu]

Yeah I think shredders shouldnt be allowed into the dropship. Shit like this is just too hard to deal with.

[Gee0F]

Same thing as a siege tank drop with marines IMO

[mittortz]

@Gee0F yeah, except that's a MUCH larger investment and therefore a much bigger risk.  so not even close to the same thing in practice

[ThakoManic]

Ya Coz Terran isnt allrdy winning enough games as it is. They need to win Mores!

allso we need to remove Carriers and such for protoss they dont suck enough <3 Blizzard in how much SC2 Fails.

[PotentialRoadkil]

@ThakoManic Actually, carriers were removed because with very few exception, no one was making them. Instead protoss got an awesome counter to mass late game air and a unit that allows them access to ghost and infestor abilities. Cry more man.

[ThakoManic]

@PotentialRoadkil Lol No one was realy making the BC Or Ultras and Blizzard attempted to fix it via Buffs and such (Ok speed buff was just random) Still they attempted to buff. Carrier? Naa, Puck it We'll give buffs to other units not being made Enough (BC/Ultras Prime Example even the infester got twinked a bit) But not Carriers just flat out removed. But hey w/e Ignore facts if you want dude. go Read the blizzard forms or such, SO Many people stated exactly What I just stated.

[Trias88]

@PotentialRoadkil

"carriers were removed because with very few exception, no one was making them"

Yet battlecruisers remained and received a buff for the same reason.

[james519]

Looks like a single spine crawler behind the mineral line would've completely thwarted off the shredder drop.

[XDukeInstinct]

First one, zerg running straight into AOE like an idiot.

Second one, zerg lost mining time that's about it.

Third one, that zerg is a complete moron.

Banelings would have done 10x better.

[Smoretoss]

@FredrikBarrdahl He's saying a Zerg dropped banelings would do far more damage than this does.

[SaucyTacatr3y]

i have been playing this custom lately and all i can say is terran is not that good anymore.... at least in these stages of the game the arc shield asimilator rush always cripples eco now... followed up by oracle mineral block there is very little options to get a good macro set up for mid game

[GLHFLOLGG]

@SaucyTacatr3y The arc shield assimilator rush is not going to be in the final release....

[sluggslackjaw]

Lets crank up the Terran mineral drop abilities..

[raltyinferno]

Noooooooooo. I play zerg and this will be awful

[raltyinferno]

Noooooooooo. I play zerg and this will be aweful

[morespamforya]

CRY CRY CRY CRY

"but it's not released yet and zerg has other units"

NO, CRY CRY CRY CRY CRY

"but the real shredder takes 8 seconds to start"

NO STFU AND LET ME CRY LIKE A LITTLE BITCH

[sl1xx]

FUNNY HOW IT IS DEMO V ZERG TYPICAL.

[maxisttot]

rofl



[Zeitgeist]

The game isnt even in beta yet, the units arent supposed to be balanced. If HotS gets released with shredders like that then you can complain, doing it now is just whiney

[Nerxtastic]

@Zeitgeist This game isn't even in alpha. This is a MOD some one who will get sued did. It was already taken down from Bnet.

[necos]

@Zeitgeist spine/spore @ mineral line :)

[StdsRbop1]

@Zeitgeist looks like we have another terran...

[Zeitgeist]

@StdsRbop1 I play Protoss. All that matters now is whether the new units are fun and add something new, everything will be balanced in the beta when the pros start playing.

[iHeardULikeNOODLES]

Well, that was some poor defence/decisions from the zerg

[DamAwesomeFilms]

When i first saw the shredder, I didn't think it was a defensive unit. I immediately thought it was for drops

[marcos267funorb]

where are your drones bro???

[kindorasg]

You know they still have a whole beta to balance this out. I could see this being balance with tweaking of aoe field and hp/shields....

[Gnafar11]

It's going to get nerfed, there is no way in hell this thing is making it into the game in this state.

[yamum0433]

wow to all the people saying "its ur fault u dont run all ur drones and lings into it" OK SMART MOTHER FUCKER LETS JUST ABANDON THE BASE AND MAKE ONE SOMEWHERE ELSE. HotS is gonna suck balls.

[7BillionColours]

haha trolls complain about balance of HotS NOW ..

kind of dumb ey?

[videoboysayscube]

Drones and Lings can't kill it = OP

[Logifal]

Longer deploy time and lower health.

[ukstubbs]

@Logifal less dps less range more cost maybe balanced then maybe

[doesntlikeu]

this zerg was terrible, good job

[jhonny1ooo]

Love the last engagement, instead of using the two spines at the top and burrowing them close to the shredders to kill while you move away your workers, better idea to just suicide 20 workers and call it a day.

[PigHeartPotato]

A moving lings and drones against is obviously the correct response.

No, it's not. This unit is balanced, you just made it seem imbalanced my doing the worst possible response.

[vmn512]

I don't think that it will be able to burrow like that on top of creep.

[athox]

@vmn512 replace this enemy with protoss and see how much of a difference that makes (none)

[lazix]

Zerg expansion. Perfect opportunity to give Terran more broken shit.

[DanielxthexSeraph]

Let me take a wild guess at the preferred race of the people who are defending the shredder...

[pingubr1985]

I love how zerg wants to counter everything with only lings, make a couple spines and no more shredder agression.

[Hzukas]

That's not space control... that's just broken

[npinp]

Show a video of lings killing immortals. Man this game is so imbalance because some units are good against others.

[dadumbazz]

with the viper you can pull it out of the way and the cloud probably works on it too.

[sheeplovebeer]

Too much hp on shredder

[Ahtinftw]

This game has not even reached beta and you're bitching about balance. What a fucking disgrace.

[ELuna3693]

@Ahtinftw i know seriously what dumb shits have a opinion before beta. Plus this is definitely not OP at all so you guys stop QQ {Sar}

[A7OldRscplayer]

That thing is actually fair. You just have to be smart about killing it

[GefGZ]

@A7OldRscplayer What the fuck league are you in if you think that's in anyway fair?

[A7OldRscplayer]

@GefGZ OH RIGHT ANYTHING THAT CAN KILL ANOTHER UNIT IS RIGGED. my bad

[GefGZ]

@A7OldRscplayer Sigh, you're a fucking imbecile.

[A7OldRscplayer]

@GefGZ Wow, incredible comeback, well done defending you're question. Again, you have to be smart about killing it, or is that too hard for you? Plus, it is the beta so duh the power of this will probably be reduced. Calm your tits cry baby

[warren73196]

how are you playing HotS already?

[GefGZ]

@warren73196 It's a custom map.

[eyallev]

@warren73196 it's a custome map. someone studied the stats that were published, and made a custome map, giving the units the mentioned stats.

notice that the graphics don't exactly match what we saw on the previews, this shredder is suppose to have a floating part over it

[BreathofArda]

Attacking that with drones is like running away all your drones in single file when 4 blue flame hellions are in your mineral line.

[Krad3r1]

it says warhound? fuck u asshole

[Dizfunky]

Unfortunately, any competent zerg would not attack one with his drones. They would just run the drones away for a little bit while cleaning up with roaches.

[Johncenabob]

it does 20dps



[blaekman]

so does that thing do like 50dmg vs light or something cause it seems a little ridiculous...

[smellyc]

Fuck terrans

[GTXJason]

Well shit.

That looks so much more pleasant on low.

On Ultra, it looks so entirely effed up.

[zeppowns]

lol terran

[furikuri52]

"What do we do? Terran is winning 60% of all tournament games."

"Let's try and make it 70%."

-Dustin Browder

[jdgaulin1]

@furikuri52 You actually think this will make it live?

[inZaNeSc2]

@furikuri52 HAHAHA LMAO So true

[Protoss1389]

@furikuri52 Have you seen the viper though? 90% zerg win inc

[rock0nm8]

LOL @ donations... only donations you'll be getting are from the sperm bank you fucking leeching FAGGOT. beg for money elsewhere, and GTFO

[odins1337]

yeah fuck you zerg

[xujploxjux]

1 static defense could stop this and it doesn't burrow out of detection so it shouldn't be a huge issue if the meta game moves into you knowing what your doing and what issues could arise when you see specific things.

[BeanXPFoX]

lololololol shredder is a touch too powerful i'd think ^^

Life's good when you're terran =D

[PoshGamer]

Looks balanced to me...

[gleepy]

attack the front at the same time too ... GG

[RPBiohazard]

Fucking ridiculous holy crap

[ShadowSerpent000]

I feel a lot of rage and a big whop of the nerfbat coming in.

[PeteS003]

OH EM GEE, I like how it even kills the egg that is morphing at the end...

[HypnotiKSykotiK]

Terran just got more op. :/

[BradenR3]

where could I play this? Just look it up?

[11Anti11]

dafuq?