I don't normally buy into the whole jordan vs kobe BS, but people forget (unless its been posted on other pages) that when jordan was playing it was full contact, hard fouls every night, let alone playoffs. Kobe plays in the no hand checking, tic tac, relatively tame version of the NBA now. The numbers still aren't as good.
....In Michael Jordans Prime...When He Got It In His Head That He Was Gonna Score...He Did..End Of Story..When Kobe Wants To Score..You Can Stop Him..And Rajon Rondo Proved That.
U fools ALWAYS wanna' thumb down my comments because U CAN'T refute ANY of what I've said with any FACTUAL comments of your own. U can't disprove any of what I'm saying because the Facts won't allow U to..
So U hide behind your computers thumbing down anything or anyone that blows your dumb ass "opinions" out of the water because U can't argue with the FACTS, although it sure as hell doesn't stop some of U morons from trying..
All you need to do is look at Kobe's strike rate. Compare it to jordan's and you will see that there is a major differance. If jordan took as many shots as Kobe does in a game he would certainly hit 70's or 80's
You'll NEVER see Kobe getting HIGH scores UNLESS he shoots OVER 10 3's a game. He RELIES on getting quick points that way since his athleticism PALES in comparison to MJ's in his Prime.
Not to mention he can't make CONSISTENT shots to get the 'And 1'. He AVERAGES about 10 3's, in EVERY game he goes for 50+ pts.
That's the difference between how he scores & how MJ did it. MJ didn't NEED the 3 pointer to get his, Kobe does..
In '83, Alex English took 1857 shots, Mark Aguirre took 1589 shots & George Gervin took 1553, which shows you the UNSELFISHNESS of the league in this era, compared to the NBA in 2008.
Kobe in 2006, took 2173 shots & missed 1195 (45%), which is close to how many shots these other guys took in a single season!
This type of thing is COMMON PLACE for him. He's a VOLUME shooter/scorer, who RELIES on TONS of shots to score points.
U kobe homers are the ONLY group of fools who insist kobe's skill isn't reflected in ANY of his production on the court LOL!!
U guys are the ONLY fools who claim kobe's true greatness, ISN'T reflected in his body of work which he CONSISTENTLY goes out & brings into fruition night in & night out, year in & year out LOL!!
2006 was the year he scored 35 ppg, he doesnt play like that anymore. Considering he only shoots jumpshots those numbers are impressive. Tmac shoots like 43 %. Kobe is 46% and they both only shoot jumpers.
And MJ shot 46% in '98, while playing the ENTIRE season with a torn ligament & cracked knuckle on the index finger of his SHOOTING hand & that was DOWN year for him!
From 1996-98, MJ was PRIMARILY a jump shooter! But he shot:
1996: 49%
1997: 49%
1998: 46%
His WORST year shooting the ball, ties kobe's BEST year & he was injured, primarily a jump shooter & PHYSICALLY on the downside of his career!
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What a dumbass, Kobe had a torn liagament this season to and isnt having surgery until after the Olympics. Jordan is gay man, I dont give a fuck what you say because he is old news.
"Jordan is gay man I dont give a fuck what you say because he is old news."
That's code talk for:
'I can't refute what you're saying with anything factual, so let me turn it into an insult competition to keep people from noticing I'm gettin' TOTALLY owned in a conversation I'm unqualified to be in to begin with due to my APPARENT ignorance on the subject matter'..
Your ENTIRE argument or rather lack thereof, is what's dumb..
Stick to being a homer, FACT stating aint your thing..
No matter how MANY excuses U try & come up with or how HARD U try to get around the FACTS of the matter, those FACTS will ALWAYS expose idiot posters like U for what U are:
Dumb Kobe Homers who lash out at anything or anyone that smacks y'all dumb asses with the FACTS of the matter..
@blackadam06 No, it's code for "You're an idiot for responding to this obvious troll post. Anyone who responds to this needs to let shit roll off their back and realize that most people on youtube are under the age of 18."
U fail to to take into account that during MJ's 3 straight 50+ streak, the Bulls were 40-42 & he AVERAGED 37ppg FOR THE SEASON & 41ppg on 53% shooting in the 40 wins!
That's LITERALLY 40+ PPG for HALF THE SEASON! And he had MORE BLOCKS than 10 starting centers that year!
And U think kobe's mere 4 50 pt games were MORE impressive than that? LOL!!
Kobe can only be "like mike" in "STRETCHES", but not CONSISTENTLY..
i will say this for kobe...all the guys now defending are big, fast, athletic, almost all of them are "super athletes". alot of those guys playin D on jordan looked like stiffs...all the players have jordan type jumping skillz etc now...back then he was a need breed no one knew how to stop him.
yeah thats why a 40 year old micheal Jordan managed to score 30 to 40 pts on your new breed super athletes.Now imagine what a prime mj would have done.
Exactly..they crack me up with that B.S. excuse to try & level the playing field for a more favorable comparison for kobe.
6 out of 14 players during the 80's & mid 90's & 1 out of 12 "SINCE" who WEREN'T centers, were Def Player Of The Year! These so called "stiffs" back then were defenders & their DPOY awards PROVE it!
The "Biggest" years on file was 1987-89 & those guys were built like track stars. Their 40 times PROVE it. 2008 is the SMALLEST year on file!
how many mvps how many scoring titles does kobe have? whats kobes all time scoring average per game? kobe is very good, but not as good a jordan was. kobe is one of if not the best of our current nba roster i will admit.
great has kobe ever put up 50 in a playoff game when it matters, no. when kobe was breaking all these records did his team even make it out of the first round. no
I remember Jordan scoring 63 against the Celtics in a play off series but he still lost. Then again Jordan had nobody on that team. Back to Kobe though how about this year? Kobe's the MVP and he's possibly on his way to win another championship with a mediocre team.
the team kobe is playing on right now is anything but mediocre. they have two really good big men, and a really good bench. kobe cant carry a mediocre team to the finals. weve seen this in the past. but he is playing great bball right now thats for sure
baddest man to lace up the sneekers graceful adgile such grace such pose 10 scoring titles enuff said labron is a cave man on the floor no grace no style riding jordans COAT TAILS.KOBE BRYANT i like but MJ WILL ALWAYS BE THE man
new fans are funny, considering that most of them is only about 13yo you have to forgive them, now I understand what older folks went thru when I was growing up, they would say Wilt Chamberlan is the greatest so I guess it is just a "generation" thing, but even the Older Folks that use to say Wilt was the greatest even had to throw in the towel and admit that MJ is the greatest especially after watching him with 5 MVP's and 6 Rings
MJ is good at loosing his opponents than Kobe or Lebron considering the defense back then was more physical. Still, he shoots 50% compared to Kobe and Lebron's 40%.
@RCMSBaller22: i do agree that both KOBE and LeBron are ballhog too... and kobe is the worst! so, shut your fucking mouth up, if you are new to basketball
Agreed. Biggest complainer in basketball ever. He got all the calls NBA was on his dick. Kobe is on his way to becoming the greatest basketball player ever even though he is hated because of his arrogance.
are u 10 come in with some evidence nobody want to hear ur bullshit coming out of ur braindead head. kobe has 2 scori titles. jordan has 10 nuff said. jordan beats kobe in every statistic there is and im talkin about pergame stats. the ones that actualy mean something
kobe could get 50every game, he jsut aint good enough to get the kind of space MJ did.
Kobe can shoot as good as MJ, as much as i hate to admitt that, he just doesn't have the skills to lose his oppents(s) to create that awesome opportunity.
shoot as good as michael jordan? jordan was shooting 54 percent cocksucker scoring 35points a game. noone in the history of the nba has done that bitch
Putting aside his dunking/skying ability, he has the sweetest jump shot. He jumps absolutly straight up in the air and shoots over everbody. Not many people have that high of a jump shot
so would Micheal Redd and Ray Allen, O and about half of the shooting gaurds in the league, he gets space by himself, its what makes him so impressive.
did anybodyelse here 36th time he scored over 40?
Bwayneallday 1 year ago
2:40 "There gonna have to call Engine Comp. #5"
-SAY WORD !!! Ball looked like it didnt even touch the net.
Roachross2 1 year ago
Lately i was checking archives of movies at NBAPremium(.)tk and to be honest some great shots are there
shiterksu 1 year ago
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BrunoLS09 2 years ago
what teams were these he played against?
*sorry for the bad english, I'm brazilian
BrunoLS09 2 years ago
His jump shot seems very funny cause he did not use fade way at all at that time
jeff19851124 2 years ago
AJ 23!!
HasimofNY 2 years ago
I don't normally buy into the whole jordan vs kobe BS, but people forget (unless its been posted on other pages) that when jordan was playing it was full contact, hard fouls every night, let alone playoffs. Kobe plays in the no hand checking, tic tac, relatively tame version of the NBA now. The numbers still aren't as good.
droctagon3k 2 years ago
he makes everything look so easy
Kidstonelove 2 years ago
im pleased that everyone know the true : jordan > kobe
nicazon 2 years ago 6
That's what i call a one man show
mvp069 3 years ago
....In Michael Jordans Prime...When He Got It In His Head That He Was Gonna Score...He Did..End Of Story..When Kobe Wants To Score..You Can Stop Him..And Rajon Rondo Proved That.
RCMSBaller22 3 years ago
Im a Jordan fan but Im gon have to disagree on that for the sake of Baller ethics.hehe
MJ wanted to score against the Pistons,but Isiah,Dumars and laimbeer made sure MJ was contained to a minimum. For 3 straight years.
But ended up on the upper end though.
JACKACEMATIGA 3 years ago
MJ...best there is..best there was..and yes..best there ever will be..!!
superslider09 3 years ago 2
6o points maaan he is a class of his own
wail17 3 years ago
Idiots..
U fools ALWAYS wanna' thumb down my comments because U CAN'T refute ANY of what I've said with any FACTUAL comments of your own. U can't disprove any of what I'm saying because the Facts won't allow U to..
So U hide behind your computers thumbing down anything or anyone that blows your dumb ass "opinions" out of the water because U can't argue with the FACTS, although it sure as hell doesn't stop some of U morons from trying..
blackadam06 3 years ago 2
preach
firedupandreadytogo 3 years ago
All you need to do is look at Kobe's strike rate. Compare it to jordan's and you will see that there is a major differance. If jordan took as many shots as Kobe does in a game he would certainly hit 70's or 80's
iamiam79 3 years ago 3
Exactly..
You'll NEVER see Kobe getting HIGH scores UNLESS he shoots OVER 10 3's a game. He RELIES on getting quick points that way since his athleticism PALES in comparison to MJ's in his Prime.
Not to mention he can't make CONSISTENT shots to get the 'And 1'. He AVERAGES about 10 3's, in EVERY game he goes for 50+ pts.
That's the difference between how he scores & how MJ did it. MJ didn't NEED the 3 pointer to get his, Kobe does..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Ummm Jordan averaged more shot attempts dumbass.
samt8405 3 years ago
No he didn't.
MJ's CAREER FG attempts per game was 20, kobe's is 24. Kobe's been takin' 15+ shot attempts, since his 3rd year!
Kobe even had 2 season where he AVERAGED 27 attempts a game. MJ only had 1 season like that & the year he did, he avg'd 37 ppg on on 51% shooting!
The 2 yrs kobe did that, he avg'd 2 pts & 10 pts "LESS" than MJ those 2 yrs on 46% & 43% shooting.
Kobe's a VOLUME shooter..ALWAYS has been & will be. He NEEDS to take TONS of shots, to score 20+ ppg, MJ didn't..
blackadam06 3 years ago 2
Ummm Jordan averages more Fga over his career buddy, I know the facts. Apparently you dont.
samt8405 3 years ago
Sure U do man..
In '83, Alex English took 1857 shots, Mark Aguirre took 1589 shots & George Gervin took 1553, which shows you the UNSELFISHNESS of the league in this era, compared to the NBA in 2008.
Kobe in 2006, took 2173 shots & missed 1195 (45%), which is close to how many shots these other guys took in a single season!
This type of thing is COMMON PLACE for him. He's a VOLUME shooter/scorer, who RELIES on TONS of shots to score points.
blackadam06 3 years ago 4
U kobe homers are the ONLY group of fools who insist kobe's skill isn't reflected in ANY of his production on the court LOL!!
U guys are the ONLY fools who claim kobe's true greatness, ISN'T reflected in his body of work which he CONSISTENTLY goes out & brings into fruition night in & night out, year in & year out LOL!!
Unbelievable...LOL!!
U guys are morons to the 10th degree..
blackadam06 3 years ago 3
2006 was the year he scored 35 ppg, he doesnt play like that anymore. Considering he only shoots jumpshots those numbers are impressive. Tmac shoots like 43 %. Kobe is 46% and they both only shoot jumpers.
samt8405 3 years ago
46%..impressive? U do realize that's MISSING MORE THAN HALF his shots right?
What's the difference between his 35ppg season & MJ's? Here's the difference:
Games with 4+ steals: MJ 31 (total 152) > KB 10 (total 47)
Games with 2+ blocks: MJ 100 > KB 6
FG %: MJ 54% > KB 45%
No comparison.
blackadam06 3 years ago 7
And MJ shot 46% in '98, while playing the ENTIRE season with a torn ligament & cracked knuckle on the index finger of his SHOOTING hand & that was DOWN year for him!
From 1996-98, MJ was PRIMARILY a jump shooter! But he shot:
1996: 49%
1997: 49%
1998: 46%
His WORST year shooting the ball, ties kobe's BEST year & he was injured, primarily a jump shooter & PHYSICALLY on the downside of his career!
blackadam06 3 years ago 4
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What a dumbass, Kobe had a torn liagament this season to and isnt having surgery until after the Olympics. Jordan is gay man, I dont give a fuck what you say because he is old news.
samt8405 3 years ago
"Jordan is gay man I dont give a fuck what you say because he is old news."
That's code talk for:
'I can't refute what you're saying with anything factual, so let me turn it into an insult competition to keep people from noticing I'm gettin' TOTALLY owned in a conversation I'm unqualified to be in to begin with due to my APPARENT ignorance on the subject matter'..
Your ENTIRE argument or rather lack thereof, is what's dumb..
Stick to being a homer, FACT stating aint your thing..
blackadam06 3 years ago 15
No matter how MANY excuses U try & come up with or how HARD U try to get around the FACTS of the matter, those FACTS will ALWAYS expose idiot posters like U for what U are:
Dumb Kobe Homers who lash out at anything or anyone that smacks y'all dumb asses with the FACTS of the matter..
blackadam06 3 years ago 7
KB's CAREER shooting %'s
Sub-48%: REG SEASON: 470+ (60% of games) -- PLAYOFFS: 84+ (64% of games)
Sub-46%: REG SEASON: 417+ (53% of games) -- PLAYOFFS: 73+ (56% of games)
Sub-44%: REG SEASON: 353+ (45% of games) -- PLAYOFFS: 64+ (49% of games)
Sub-42%: REG SEASON: 307+ (39% of games) -- PLAYOFFS: 53+ (40% of games)
That's BELOW 40%, 1/3 of his CAREER! He shoots even WORSE in the Playoffs & has shot WORSE than his team, 10 outta 12 yrs!!
Was his finger hurt ALL this time? LOL!!
blackadam06 3 years ago 9
@blackadam06 No, it's code for "You're an idiot for responding to this obvious troll post. Anyone who responds to this needs to let shit roll off their back and realize that most people on youtube are under the age of 18."
MaxwellsAttourney 1 year ago
No...responding to comments posted on YouTube 2 yrs ago, and actually having the nerve to call someone out of their name at that, is what's idiotic.
Maybe U should apply your own half ass assessment of the situation to yourself..
blackadam06 1 year ago
@blackadam06 he's gay?
stsk7 1 month ago
MJ has more fga, also higher FG%. Thats why MJ has avg.30 and Kobe has only 25.
Kobe at age 30 has 28 ppg and 48% ppg, that's what 36 yrs old MJ had. I am wondering if Kobe can still play in NBA at age 36.
jimmychuang 3 years ago
tmcswe07- u wrong.... kobe did score 50 in the playoffs... he did it againts the suns in 06 playoffs
kobebeast24 3 years ago
Most 50 pt Playoff Games
MJ: 8 > Wilt: 4 > J. West: 2 > 11 Players with 1
Winning % of teams both scored 50+ pts against:
MJ: 54.9% > KB: 45.8%
In kobe's 23 50+ pt games, only 9 came against .500+ teams (39%).
In MJ's 39 50+ pt games, 31 came against teams with .500+ teams (80%).
In half of MJ's 50+ pt games, he shot 60+ % & ONLY shot below 50%, "1" time (15-31 48%) in ALL of his 39 50+ pt games.
Kobe's only shot 60+ % "5" times outta his 23 50+ pt games.
blackadam06 3 years ago
thats the main different between mike and kobe
effectivieness
nicazon 2 years ago
haha.. kobe did better in a 4 game span! 65-50-60-50!... more impressive!.. yall have to admit that!
kobebeast24 3 years ago
Hey kobebeast24,
U fail to to take into account that during MJ's 3 straight 50+ streak, the Bulls were 40-42 & he AVERAGED 37ppg FOR THE SEASON & 41ppg on 53% shooting in the 40 wins!
That's LITERALLY 40+ PPG for HALF THE SEASON! And he had MORE BLOCKS than 10 starting centers that year!
And U think kobe's mere 4 50 pt games were MORE impressive than that? LOL!!
Kobe can only be "like mike" in "STRETCHES", but not CONSISTENTLY..
That's the difference..
blackadam06 3 years ago 3
he was just talking about kobe had 4 straight 50pt games while jordan only had 3 straight 50pt games
FlamesXT10 3 years ago
lol who cares if he scored more... its all about the RING...shit kobe could score 900 points...it still WONT GET HIM A RING!!!
ni2da 3 years ago
i will say this for kobe...all the guys now defending are big, fast, athletic, almost all of them are "super athletes". alot of those guys playin D on jordan looked like stiffs...all the players have jordan type jumping skillz etc now...back then he was a need breed no one knew how to stop him.
iurhviusdfavhi 3 years ago
what are you, 14?
sardoveloz 3 years ago
yeah thats why a 40 year old micheal Jordan managed to score 30 to 40 pts on your new breed super athletes.Now imagine what a prime mj would have done.
misayde 3 years ago 4
Exactly..they crack me up with that B.S. excuse to try & level the playing field for a more favorable comparison for kobe.
6 out of 14 players during the 80's & mid 90's & 1 out of 12 "SINCE" who WEREN'T centers, were Def Player Of The Year! These so called "stiffs" back then were defenders & their DPOY awards PROVE it!
The "Biggest" years on file was 1987-89 & those guys were built like track stars. Their 40 times PROVE it. 2008 is the SMALLEST year on file!
Kids, go do ya homework..
blackadam06 3 years ago 2
fuck you
3358Carlmont 3 years ago
kobe had 50 in 4 str8 games... and 2 of them were nt 50..1 was 60 the other was 65
h0o0oh 3 years ago
how many mvps how many scoring titles does kobe have? whats kobes all time scoring average per game? kobe is very good, but not as good a jordan was. kobe is one of if not the best of our current nba roster i will admit.
twofivekidd9 3 years ago 2
MJ won his first MVP during the '88 season. That same year, he won Defensive Player of the Year award and he was named All-star MVP.
Now,how can you compare Kobe to Jordan?
KOBE who? :)
akosiow 3 years ago 3
great has kobe ever put up 50 in a playoff game when it matters, no. when kobe was breaking all these records did his team even make it out of the first round. no
tmcswe07 3 years ago
I remember Jordan scoring 63 against the Celtics in a play off series but he still lost. Then again Jordan had nobody on that team. Back to Kobe though how about this year? Kobe's the MVP and he's possibly on his way to win another championship with a mediocre team.
astellos 3 years ago
the team kobe is playing on right now is anything but mediocre. they have two really good big men, and a really good bench. kobe cant carry a mediocre team to the finals. weve seen this in the past. but he is playing great bball right now thats for sure
tmcswe07 3 years ago
baddest man to lace up the sneekers graceful adgile such grace such pose 10 scoring titles enuff said labron is a cave man on the floor no grace no style riding jordans COAT TAILS.KOBE BRYANT i like but MJ WILL ALWAYS BE THE man
bigbodawg 3 years ago
new fans are funny, considering that most of them is only about 13yo you have to forgive them, now I understand what older folks went thru when I was growing up, they would say Wilt Chamberlan is the greatest so I guess it is just a "generation" thing, but even the Older Folks that use to say Wilt was the greatest even had to throw in the towel and admit that MJ is the greatest especially after watching him with 5 MVP's and 6 Rings
OTKP 3 years ago
i agree with faking ghost.
MJ is good at loosing his opponents than Kobe or Lebron considering the defense back then was more physical. Still, he shoots 50% compared to Kobe and Lebron's 40%.
MJ is the GOAT!
Alvinladen 4 years ago 3
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now I know, what BALLHOG really means.. thanks for giving us a good example!
schlunder116 4 years ago
Yeah, well his teammates couldn't complain when MJ "ballhogged" the Bulls franchise to six fucking championships.
Juice050289 3 years ago 3
Dude......If MJ was a ballhog...then exactly what is kobe or lebron? somene that loves to pass it?....I THINK NOT!
RCMSBaller22 3 years ago
@RCMSBaller22: i do agree that both KOBE and LeBron are ballhog too... and kobe is the worst! so, shut your fucking mouth up, if you are new to basketball
schlunder116 3 years ago
im guessing your a lebron james bitch.
and what is he?
atlhoe123 3 years ago
@atlhoe123: im guessing you're newbie in basketball
schlunder116 3 years ago
Agreed. Biggest complainer in basketball ever. He got all the calls NBA was on his dick. Kobe is on his way to becoming the greatest basketball player ever even though he is hated because of his arrogance.
astellos 3 years ago
are u 10 come in with some evidence nobody want to hear ur bullshit coming out of ur braindead head. kobe has 2 scori titles. jordan has 10 nuff said. jordan beats kobe in every statistic there is and im talkin about pergame stats. the ones that actualy mean something
tmcswe07 3 years ago
to sandiegosuperbowl.
kobe could get 50every game, he jsut aint good enough to get the kind of space MJ did.
Kobe can shoot as good as MJ, as much as i hate to admitt that, he just doesn't have the skills to lose his oppents(s) to create that awesome opportunity.
FakingGhost 4 years ago
shoot as good as michael jordan? jordan was shooting 54 percent cocksucker scoring 35points a game. noone in the history of the nba has done that bitch
zopoundsakpase 3 years ago 2
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psh kobe did better
garyworld 4 years ago
idiot.
spartan4745 4 years ago
Putting aside his dunking/skying ability, he has the sweetest jump shot. He jumps absolutly straight up in the air and shoots over everbody. Not many people have that high of a jump shot
JayZoop 4 years ago 4
oooh you gotta love the swishing of the net.
JoshuaForYou 4 years ago 2
dude if u gave kobe that kind of room for his shots, then kobe would go 50 EVERY GAME
sandiegosuperbowl 4 years ago
so would Micheal Redd and Ray Allen, O and about half of the shooting gaurds in the league, he gets space by himself, its what makes him so impressive.
genie10101 4 years ago 2
pretty good but rarly goes for the 3s
cartersaechao1 4 years ago
"pretty good" is a huge understatement.
Juice050289 3 years ago
Jordan could've went for 4, but it was at the end of the season and he needed the rest...it pretty pointless to chase stats like that.
bwink23 4 years ago
we all know wut happened to that record.
GO LAKERS!
ThaNatural26 4 years ago
that wasnt a record, wilt averaged more than 50 in one of his seasons
spidermonkey1015 4 years ago
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my uncle the lebron JAMES bitch is betta all JAMES ARE CUZ WE DA BEST
sk88terkid4life 4 years ago
ye and im santa clause
p11235 4 years ago 3
just another day at the office for MJ
FadeAway23 4 years ago
mj the best
yoyogiballer 4 years ago
Eiiz, nice video
tysonlovesbasketball 4 years ago
damn thats my man right there
D4vid100000 4 years ago
insane
PimpinPlaya101 4 years ago
didnt kobe get four 50 pt. games in a row
natedeezy7912 4 years ago
good response
theotheranswer 4 years ago