kata but Kancho made some small changes to make us understand better some things... I do not say that other versions are not good !! Kancho explains all these changes and why in kata..most of them has to do with bunkai and few of them has to do with breathing... oss to alla karateka out there....
In SKIF kancho Kanazawa in this kata (and also in gojushiho-dai whis is -sho in jka) the tate shuto is over arm.. This because in every kamae position it is very difficult to perform a really strong and fast block under arm.. any karateka try to do the bunkai..stand on a kamae in moto dachi,zenkutsu, kokutsu (or in any oter stance) and try to block a fast attack.. it's much more practical (power and angle of the block).. All of you know that the bunkai is not neccesary exactly as it shows on
Does anyone know why in this video he prepares for the zuki with hand over instead of under? I have searched all over utube and all other chinte kata are under arm not over arm as with shuto
0.51 if you want to check it! Sorry if I am not emplaining myself very well!!!
In my style, Shito-ryu, we learn it at 8 kyu. It is a kata we teach the students early so by the time the are shodan the have it down pretty well. Thanks for your input.
@RNLarkin: We have five additional katas fro shodan, nidan and sandan. It is of course fine to learn your katas in good time, but leaning all at once is like trying to drink from a fire hydrant. :)
This is the best video of Chinte out there, I love the way this guy does it! I'm going to be competing with this kata this weekend, I normally do Bassai Dai and last tournament I did Jion. Too many people wizz through this kata when it should be taken slow in the presses and then explosive in the middle of the kata.
totally agree my friend it awesome the power is tremendous,i was taught this by sensei ronnie watt 9th dan(hes amazing)and sensei enoeda,i should do them more to get them perfect but like you i pick a goodie and try to perfect it,i like wankan and tekki shodan with power awesome
One could consider the jumps to be an evasive maneuver. As your opponent punches or kicks at you, you take small jumps backwards to get out of the way. Simple but effective.
One of the bunkai for the moves at the end is that you have your opponent's arm in an arm bar over your shoulder (i.e. you have hold of your opponent's arm whilst they are behind you and their elbow rests on your shoulder, elbow facing down). As you bounce backwards, you also move your hands, dislocating their elbow.
it may show how old this kata is, the older okinawan katas never ended , where they started like many chinese kata. to finish where you start is a nnew approach i.e to make the kata look beautiful.
Make sure you form fudo dachi as on the video. Some karateka are now pointing the front foot forward. To use the stance correctly: space the feet similar to zenkutsu dachi but with them parallel and pointing at 45 degrees. The knees should be bent similar to kiba dachi but with a little more weight to the front. This is a very strong and stable stance and in my opinion is especially good in defence.
At the end make sure you do the jumps correctly ie. keep the feet together, pointing forwards and make all jumps back along a straight line at an angle to bring you back to the start point. Some karateka have started to do 2 jumps straight back and one to the side (like a knight's move in chess). This is incorrect.
I learned chinte 30 years ago and my sensei (Asano) said that the jumps are used because in the bunkai, the attacker has trapped the feet together with a chain (used similsr to a whip).
"the jumps are used because in the bunkai, the attacker has trapped the feet together with a chain"
Creative, but (no offense) I don't buy it. Why would you end the kata like that? You're still trapped and you didn't do anything to the opponent after hopping back. Also, if your opponent was holding your legs via chain, jumping wouldn't be something you wanted to do.
I don't think there is a bunkai. This is the only kata that doesn't end where it starts, and you're taking yourself back.
I agree with maotas. I think the 3 hops were added by Nakayama Sensei to end the kata at the starting position. The Okinawan version doesn't have the three hops. Anyone can create number of bunkai to any body movement. Even you just do nothing, they will tell there's a bunkai. You are concentrating and observing the opponent without any move.
kata but Kancho made some small changes to make us understand better some things... I do not say that other versions are not good !! Kancho explains all these changes and why in kata..most of them has to do with bunkai and few of them has to do with breathing... oss to alla karateka out there....
skifhania 1 year ago
In SKIF kancho Kanazawa in this kata (and also in gojushiho-dai whis is -sho in jka) the tate shuto is over arm.. This because in every kamae position it is very difficult to perform a really strong and fast block under arm.. any karateka try to do the bunkai..stand on a kamae in moto dachi,zenkutsu, kokutsu (or in any oter stance) and try to block a fast attack.. it's much more practical (power and angle of the block).. All of you know that the bunkai is not neccesary exactly as it shows on
skifhania 1 year ago
one question when he makes the move at 0:42 is it over the shoulder...
in other vids i see people making the move under the arm...
pagondouin 1 year ago
THANK You, Shihan! this clip is an useful lesson !!
I have started exercising Chinte!
GermanDani 1 year ago
Does anyone know why in this video he prepares for the zuki with hand over instead of under? I have searched all over utube and all other chinte kata are under arm not over arm as with shuto
0.51 if you want to check it! Sorry if I am not emplaining myself very well!!!
johnyboy1975 2 years ago
@johnyboy1975
there are difference which can be soo tiny .. each Sensei from a SKIEF country has his own philosophy!
GermanDani 1 year ago
I'm currious what rank are you guys learning this kata (Chinte). Thanks!!
RNLarkin 2 years ago
2 kyu :)
jetus1000 2 years ago
@RNLarkin It is part of syllabus for sandan in SKIF.
bajerfan 2 years ago
In my style, Shito-ryu, we learn it at 8 kyu. It is a kata we teach the students early so by the time the are shodan the have it down pretty well. Thanks for your input.
RNLarkin 2 years ago
@RNLarkin: We have five additional katas fro shodan, nidan and sandan. It is of course fine to learn your katas in good time, but leaning all at once is like trying to drink from a fire hydrant. :)
bajerfan 2 years ago
This is the best video of Chinte out there, I love the way this guy does it! I'm going to be competing with this kata this weekend, I normally do Bassai Dai and last tournament I did Jion. Too many people wizz through this kata when it should be taken slow in the presses and then explosive in the middle of the kata.
sedativechunk 3 years ago 2
totally agree my friend it awesome the power is tremendous,i was taught this by sensei ronnie watt 9th dan(hes amazing)and sensei enoeda,i should do them more to get them perfect but like you i pick a goodie and try to perfect it,i like wankan and tekki shodan with power awesome
smcgregor72 2 years ago
One could consider the jumps to be an evasive maneuver. As your opponent punches or kicks at you, you take small jumps backwards to get out of the way. Simple but effective.
adox26 3 years ago
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aiko4321 3 years ago
fu kanazawa is just traditional karateka.he is not sport
joyce0055 2 years ago
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aiko4321 2 years ago
different senseis from 3rd to 6th Dan told us, that the last jumps may have different applications...
my favourite one: the small jumps are just a "symbol" to run away after you have killed;) your enemys and don't stumble over their bodies...
Does someone also know the legend, that Chinte has been developed from a traditional Asian dance, that shows woman what they need to know in life???
LethalGuppy 3 years ago
One of the bunkai for the moves at the end is that you have your opponent's arm in an arm bar over your shoulder (i.e. you have hold of your opponent's arm whilst they are behind you and their elbow rests on your shoulder, elbow facing down). As you bounce backwards, you also move your hands, dislocating their elbow.
samuelll 3 years ago
it may show how old this kata is, the older okinawan katas never ended , where they started like many chinese kata. to finish where you start is a nnew approach i.e to make the kata look beautiful.
ealingkostas 3 years ago
very nice kata and great performance
jion080981 4 years ago
they jump at the end 'cause they have to be at the same place where they have started (embusen.
Great, chinte is one of my favourite katas!!
electric91guitar 4 years ago
que kata extraño no sabia que los saltos debian darse, ademas su estilo es engañoso, es duro-rapido pero tambien lento-suave
locoyogui 4 years ago
im trying to learn this kata
yemeni123 5 years ago
Make sure you form fudo dachi as on the video. Some karateka are now pointing the front foot forward. To use the stance correctly: space the feet similar to zenkutsu dachi but with them parallel and pointing at 45 degrees. The knees should be bent similar to kiba dachi but with a little more weight to the front. This is a very strong and stable stance and in my opinion is especially good in defence.
royksk 4 years ago
At the end make sure you do the jumps correctly ie. keep the feet together, pointing forwards and make all jumps back along a straight line at an angle to bring you back to the start point. Some karateka have started to do 2 jumps straight back and one to the side (like a knight's move in chess). This is incorrect.
royksk 4 years ago
why the jumping at the end?
25500 5 years ago
I learned chinte 30 years ago and my sensei (Asano) said that the jumps are used because in the bunkai, the attacker has trapped the feet together with a chain (used similsr to a whip).
royksk 4 years ago
"the jumps are used because in the bunkai, the attacker has trapped the feet together with a chain"
Creative, but (no offense) I don't buy it. Why would you end the kata like that? You're still trapped and you didn't do anything to the opponent after hopping back. Also, if your opponent was holding your legs via chain, jumping wouldn't be something you wanted to do.
I don't think there is a bunkai. This is the only kata that doesn't end where it starts, and you're taking yourself back.
maofas 3 years ago
I agree with maotas. I think the 3 hops were added by Nakayama Sensei to end the kata at the starting position. The Okinawan version doesn't have the three hops. Anyone can create number of bunkai to any body movement. Even you just do nothing, they will tell there's a bunkai. You are concentrating and observing the opponent without any move.
aiko4321 2 years ago