Wayne Gretzky - Top 10 NHL Forwards of All Time - #2

[spinocchio]

LOL that"s funny. Gretzky not #1

[mjb9982]

if gretzky never scored a goal in the NHL, he would still be the all time point leader. but he is number 2??? give me a break

[robjmoore63]

@mjb9982 keep in mind, If he didn't have to leave the ice to battle cancer, Lemieux would've passed his records. Lemieux didn't have all the talent surrounding him that Wayne did. He had Jagr, that was it. Gretzky played with Mark Messier, Jari Kurri, Rob Blake, Paul Coffey, Luc Robitaille, Brett Hull, and Chris Pronger just to name a few.

[mjb9982]

@robjmoore63 are you kidding me? mario had jagr, ron francis, paul coffey, larry murphy, kevin stevens, mark recchi, rick tocchet, joe mullen, marty straka, alexi kovalev, heck he even played with sydney crosby for a few games. to say mario didnt have all the talent to play with is the biggest BS spread in hockey history. the guy played with just as many hall of famers as gretzky. its also funny you bring up hull and pronger, gretzky played like 25 games with those guys.

[theone456]

Screw stats, Lemieux was the best ever. stats are great but so what?? Gretzky dominated in the 80's when the goalies were garbage. Lemeiux in 92-93 would have broken Gretzky's record of 215.

Lemieux>>>>>everyone,

[AxonMoses]

1. Gretzky

2. Howe

3. Mario (I love the guy, but those missed games hurt him)

4. Rocket

[Jiltedin2007]

@AxonMoses Mario Lemieux had Hodgkin's Disease. If Lemieux were to be in perfect health throughout his life, God only knows how many more Stanley Cups he would have won with the Penguins.

[myerdj15]

all i heard this guy saying is why gretzky should be # 1. what a joke.

[lukereaume]

Okay so let me get this straight, gretzky has got the most points ever in a season, most goals and most assist... but he's not #1?

[henrim93]

I think bout gretzky and lemieux are great players there is a lot of if's and but's when it comes to mario about his injuries etc....but when it comes right down to it then wayne was the one who actually got all those incredible records and has finished first in almost every thing he could, so i think he should be #1.

[MovieBoner]

Their no way Lemieux is better than Howe!!!!!

[znogypogy]

@MovieBoner agree, i think gordie could very well be 1. just think finishing his career at 51 yrs old ! and im a gretzky fan too

[HBOMB99]

Gretz isn't number one? uhhmmm. what? Bit of a no brainer when one of his records is having the most records don't you think?

[ACDCgibson3]

He was being sarcastic dumbasses

[ACDCgibson3]

He was being sarcastic dumbasses

[ACDCgibson3]

He was being sarcastic dumbasses

[BabbarKhalsaZindabad]

Mario COULD have been better..had he not been injured.but that's not what happened

End of story

99>66

[znogypogy]

gretzky not # 1 forward all time ? i'm on the ground laughing; that is so stupid it doesn't even need justification. well maybe "go fuck off".....

[FatBeatsHipHop]

Gretzky started a brawl first game

[FatBeatsHipHop]

Most points higher plus minus than any other forward

Small little bitch beat all the tough guys

hes #1 in skill

[Janet6961]

There will never be another Wayne Gretzky. Lemieux and Crosby just don't cut it..Stats say it all. Not to mention Crosby is a cry baby.He should be doing kleenex comercials.

[danglesnipesdaniel]

Gretzky is number one! Fix it!

[adamjr29]

Like your Shirt Funny

[Viperstrike28]

#2... #2 LMAO ur list just lost all legitimacy you should be ashamed

[znogypogy]

GRETZKY # 1. SO SILLY IT DOESN'T EVEN DESERVE DEBATE

[Dane42o]

Who cares if this guy put Gretzky 1st or Lemieux 1st, they were both great players and people will have their favorites. It's like today where people compare Crosby and Ovechkin and seem to love one and despise the other, can't you just enjoy both?

[cgyphan3uf]

Both 99 and 66 are amazing, unlike any other forward to ever play the game. It's hard to say who's better, but I'm glad they picked Lemieux since most people pick Gretzky just because of his records. Lemieux was more skilled imo and probably could have beat a lot of those records if we was healthy his whole career.

[mcwaddle]

we dont live in a world of what if. we live in a world of is. you can say all you want about injurys but what do the statistics say?

[MOMOarabe]

point per game average

lemieux 1.88

gretzky 1.92

but if he didnt come back in 2000, he could have been the only players in history to have a 2 points per game average,

i think he was better than gretzky, he was just soo unlucky (injuries)

[omfgOBAMA]

You're a retard.

[hockeyplayer168]

Gretzky would have been pummeled into the ice if he played on Mario's Penguins.

[gnomjara]

If Lemiuex didn't got injury and played more games MAYBE he would deserve 1 place.

[rsgeek26]

wayne gretzky #1!!!!!!!!!!! Lemieux BLOWS

[chef1370]

lemieux unquestionably was a gifted player for his generation but so are many others,, gretzky,s name shall be first on millions of lips in the fututre when naming the best of the best. it,s not wether you can score a pretty goal or even crack a few records but to set the standard the way gretzky did, his feats shall never be repeated, ok the records shall be broken in time they always were going to be but to be done by one player, won,t happen ever

[zachichu]

if this was "most productive forwards of all time" gretzky would be number one. but its not. if you showed video highlights of both lemieux and gretzky to someone who didnt know who had all the all time records and asked them which player was better, they would all say lemieux. is emmitt smith better than barry sanders because he has more records? no. lemieux was more talented and anyone who doesnt think so is kidding themselves

[Irato99]

@zachichu

And if you showed highlights of Kovalev, they would all say he's the best ever. If you judge a hockey player by his highlights, you really don't know anything about hockey. Even enforcer D. McCarty scored a goal as good as anything Mario did in the finals with Detroit, does he have as much talent?

Honestly, who would you want on your team, a player scoring 50 pretty goals or a player scoring 90 garbage goals? That's why being productive is great because it actually help the team win.

[Irato99]

@zachichu

And if you showed highlights of Kovalev, they would all say he's the best ever. If you judge a hockey player by his highlights, you really don't know anything about hockey. Even enforcer D. McCarty scored a goal as good as anything Mario did in the finals with Detroit, does he have as much talent?

Honestly, who would you want on your team, a player scoring 50 pretty goals or a player scoring 90 garbage goals? That's why being productive is great because it actually help the team win.

[crossingnirvana]

Lemieux Is The Bestest of All-Time. No argument and no rationalization what-so-ever.  You cannot compare the sheer skill and tallent that Mario had. Gretzkey comes close, but not close enough.

[Irato99]

@crossingnirvana

Mario way have had the talent, but Gretzky had everything else, the numbers, the 60 records, the 9 MVPs, the 10 scoring titles, the Cups, the endurance, the desire to win, the intelligence, the dedication, and the list goes on. Talent isn't enough to be the best.

[crossingnirvana]

Lemieux Is The Bestest of All-Time. No argument and no rationalization what-so-ever. You cannot compare the sheer skill and tallent that Mario had. Gretzkey comes close, but so far.

[Irato99]

There's just something missing there, lol, what the hell could be missing, that's retarded.

[ksmalone29]

It's always a toss up? How dumb is this person? He has more career assists than anyone else has points. He scored 50 goals in 39 games. No one will ever break Gretzky's career point record.

[dkickboxer]

Bullshit list if Gretzky is not number one. There is a reason his number is retired league wide. The only player to ever receive that honor.

[mckendo83]

There should be no hypotheticals in this...lemieux DID get sick, lemiuex wasn't healthy, the points are MOOT. Gretzky was better.

[EvansthemanOHISAIDIT]

Gretzky is the greatest no question. People say Lemieux WOULD have had the most points, but he didn't. End of story.

[kailan555]

I believe Lemieux was better than Gretzky, not because he maybe could have had more points, but because Lemieux was nearly has good has Gretzky when it come to offense(in my head there's no question Gretzky has the best offensive aptitude ever) but Lemieux could do more than just produce points, he was good defensively, while Gretzky was really bad when his team didn't had the puck.

[suuperduperfish]

if mario was better then why didn't he beat any of wayne's single season records? you can say he didn't beat his career records because of his health. but explain why he didn't get the most goals, assists, or points in a season when he had alot of healthy seasons and seasons with hall of fame players

[ronnyoselivan]

zachichu you are my hero, i fully agree with you =]

[zachichu]

why do you people keep bringing up all-time stats, this doesnt say top 10 best careers, its best forwards, which lemieux was, even paul coffey said after mario retired that he was "bar none the most talented he's ever played with".... gretzkys ppg is 1.92 and marios is 1.88, just a guess here, but if lemieux didnt play with cancer and back problems throughout his career, im guessing his ppg would be at least on par with gretzkys, probably better, not to mention gretzky played on better teams

[Irato99]

@zachichu

The same old tape again, bla bla cancer, bla bla back problems, if this and that.

And stop saying Mario played with cancer, he didn't, he missed 24 games for treatment and when he came back, he had the greatest run of his career. Did cancer hurt his career, not much it seems, he was better than when he was healthy.

And, btw, Saku Koivu had cancer a few years ago, he's still playing and he never complained about fatigue...

[zachichu]

did you even pay attention to what i said? you people keep saying that gretzky has all the stats.... well no shit, he played 500 more games than lemieux... my point was that their PPG are almost exactly same, then i brought up that lemieux played half his career with a bad back, that gretzky had better talent around him, that gretzky played 5 years before lemieux where the goal scoring was much easier to come by...

[zachichu]

when two players have equal PPG stats, and one of the players had alot less to deal with, then why do you people think its crazy that lemieux isnt the better play?... again, it doesnt say best career, it says best player.... and if you dont think that lemieuxs back effected his career, then you didnt know the severity of it...there were games where lemieux had to get help from his teamates getting off and on the bench between shifts because he couldnt bend his back

[Irato99]

@zachichu

I didn't know having a bad back was a criteria to make you a better player.

[zachichu]

i never said that. do you not have common sense? i said his stats would be better if he didnt play half his career with back problems... do you not agree? do you not agree that gretzky playing during the scoring era helped his cause? do you not agree that gretzky had better teams around him? dont tell me that he made the oilers because they won a cup without him...lemieux was just more talented, ask scotty bowman, ask paul coffey (who played with both, so he has a pretty good idea) ask bobby orr

[Irato99]

@zachichu

No I don't agree with anything you said, you just speculate without any facts, and the Pens won a cup without Mario.

[zachichu]

wow that was the worst comeback ever. im not speculating that he had a bad back, its a fact, nor am i speculating that gretzky played during the scoring era, look up the stats, the scoring was at an all time high from 80 to 85, and i guess it would be an opinion to say that gretzky played on better teams, but anyone who knows anything about hockey would agree that he did... and if you cant agree that playing injured would hamper your ability to play hockey, then you just dont have common sense

[zachichu]

abd bowman, coffey and bobby orrs sayign lemieux was better is just an opinion too, but i think they know a little more about hockey than people who judge hockey by career stats.... and saying that the pens didnt need lemieux to win a cup... is just plain stupid, its a completely different team.... GRETZKYS FORMER TEAMMATES won a cup without him

[Irato99]

Mario couldn't even make the playoffs, when he left the Pens went to the finals and won the cup the year after.

[MrSS454]

What about the back-to-back Stanley Cups in 1992 and 1993? Plus they went to the playoffs plenty of times in those years. Also, Hodgkins isn't some little disease. It's extremely dangerous and often fatal, and he recovered and still played. He wins with heart alone.

[Irato99]

@MrSS454

I was talking about the comeback in the 2000s, he made the team miss the playoffs 4 years in a row. But, hey, they got Crosby, Malkin, Fleury and Stall, all 1st or 2nd picks. They won the cup quickly after he stopped playing.

[Irato99]

@zachichu

No yours is definitely the worst comeback, you just repeat the last one...

You're speculating the fact that Mario had less ppg because of his back.

What year has the record for most 50 goals scorers and most 100 pts scorers, hint : Mario won the scoring title...

Mario played with as much great players than Gretzky.

And I repeat, being injured a lot doesn't make you a great player...

[zachichu]

well sometimes you got to use common sense, bud... lets see... me vs. mike tyson in a fight... well we cant speculate who would win cause it never happened! (im using your great method of thinking here) i dont care how many 50 goal scorers there were in a season, im talking about league wide goals per game, which was almost 8 per game in gretzkys era... and if you call playing with wendall young and rob brown for the first seven years of your career "great" than you are an idiot

[zachichu]

i dont know what youre talking about with the lemieux not making the playoffs thing, i think youre talking about crosbys rookie year? lemieux played 22 games that season and then retired because of irregular heartbeats

[Irato99]

@zachichu

It's still speculation my friend, I want facts. I mean, who would have thought that the best scoring sequence Mario had is went he came back from radiation treatments. That's why your speculations are crap...

It's true Mario never was the same without Rob Brown, the scoring machine who blew the WHL away (he still has assist and points records).

[zachichu]

sure, forget about the back and bring up the cancer.... no, cancer didnt effect his play, but it did make him miss a season and a half, which at the time he was playing the best hockey of his career.... haha yeah, rob brown was back and forth from the minors to the nhl after he left the pens, he was horrible... dont give me that whl crap... please dont respond to this because i dont want to argue anymore haha

[Irato99]

@zachichu

I will reply if I want, it's a free world. But I'm sorry to see you don't have any arguments, but it was predictable...

[zachichu]

lol what are you talkin about, im the only one bringing up points about the argument, you just keep saying its all speculation... i dont care, think what you want, i think lemieuxs better you think gretzky, oh well, what can we do

[Chloechloe1967]

bull shit gretzky is number 1

loser show

[gaiter83]

I would say that Gretzky easily had the best career ever, best stats, etc. However, I would still say that Lemieux was the best individual player ever at a certain time. I don't think anyone ever dominated the game individually better than Lemieux did at one time...

[DIVAD291]

the title should say 'top 10 nhl forwards of their era'because everybody knows that wayne gretzky or any great players... were good...but with the growing number of ppl trying to make it to the nhl the players are better than ever...

[vampirehippie]

good lord Mario and Gretzky has nothing on the Cap STEVE YZERMAN! was and will always be the best CAP EVER and will always be the number 1 in the WORLD sorry guys.

[svennybob]

Actually the number is called "one hundred and si-X-ty three" not "sisty".

[Cesser2003]

The fact that he pronounced Marcel Dionne's name wrong says it all. GWG has more assists in his career than anyone else has points. Tool.

[BigBents]

lol if walter watched this video he might have a cardiac arrest ... believe me, he's a very good guy but he keeps telling people the same story over and over..

And now that wayne is retired I hope i get to see him when he comes back to Brantford, or if he comes back :)

[p6o1n5d]

It's really too damn bad that the league at the time was so split east/west. The majority of the fans in the east never saw Gretzsky much, and the west never saw Lemieux either. Goaltending appears much better now thanks to the whipping that these 2 greats put on them.  Goalie coaches now were the victims them. Lemieux, though, will always have that superhuman legend quality to him having played most of his career in often severe pain-enough to take a year off and retire early.

[bobdacreepable]

gretzky number 2??? this show is an EMBARRASSMENT to HOCKEY.....gretzky stats are RIDICULOUS...not even mucheal jordan is in the same class of DOMINATING a sport...i ove mario, hes MY fav, but c'mon now...WAYNE is hockey 99

[Jaeden2k]

Gretzky's career was never the same after he was hit from behind from that dirty prick, Gary Suter. However, he still managed to put up impressive numbers. This was all back in the day when hooking, clutching and grabbing were still part of the game. Now, you can't even tap the players, and they still can't reach 160 points?

Now, shut up...and show some respect people!

[GermanRocket7]

Whilst what you said at first is true, one has got to add that back in the day Gretzky managed to get miraculous points totals the defensemen didn't actually play defense, but more of a 4th/5th attacker. The game nowadays has become a lot more defensive-minded and defensemen are actually taught to play tight defense rather than bursting out on offense. Gretzky in today's aera most likely would have been a 110-point player, no more and no less.

[r2native]

@GermanRocket7 Keep in mind that forwards were not taught how to play offense that well either. So their both put in the same situation. But the game of hockey has excelled significantly.

[Jaeden2k]

When Gretzky left all those HOF support group players that carried Wayne while in Edmonton (pathetic argument), he scored over 160 points and made Bernie Nichols a household name that year. So stop throwing Rob Brown into this argument...

[Jaeden2k]

Gretzky played Pro before he even made it into the NHL. Gretzky recorded his 50th hat trick during his twilight years with the Rangers. 50! Without looking it up on Google, can any of you statisticians tell us who is number two?

In '98, he was in the top 5 in scoring, playing on a shit Ranger team. Nevermind the goals. Gretzky would still hold the All Time leading scorer on his assists alone!

[Jaeden2k]

Man, is this list flawed!

Gretzky is bar far the best player ever to play. Cups, Awards, Scoring Titles, and Records aside, Wayne Gretzky absolutely changed the way the game was played. Mario Lemieux was a bigger bitch than Wayne was ever accused of.

The majority of you people commenting on here aren't old enough to even remember when they played. Stats and Youtube videos don't even begin to show how great Wayne was...

[moogleff10]

TheLynxKid patrick roy is better, look at how many cups roy has won over Martin Brodeur

shutouts and wins ect and more playoff wins then Martin Brodeur

[TheLynxKid]

You honestly think Gretzky is the SECOND greatest hockey forward of all-time? I guess Bobby Orr is the SECOND greatest defenseman and Martin Brodeur is the SECOND greatest goalie. Honestly, this is a joke.

P.S. I know some people might argue that Brodeur isn't the greatest goaltender of all time, but those people are just as stupid as this guy.

[modaloperator]

It seems you don't get it...NOTHING IS MISSING!!! Gretz has it all the stats and championships to prove it.

[Redplanetlover]

I don't have to add a thing . it seems unanimous; your judges are idiots. Everybody knows Gretz is #1 and you can sayit all day/week/year that you think he is #2 but it won't change anything. He is, and always will be, #1.

[modaloperator]

Something missing....ummm...like over 1000 more points and 2 more cups than Lemieux? You are a fucktard.

[modaloperator]

Sorry....BULLSHIT!!!!

[87beats8]

Orr was better.

[hoodikov31]

orr was a defensemen fuckface

[BSqwerty]

Orr was a defenseman.... this is a forward top ten...

[boyzgonewild]

DIFFERENT ERA!!!Gretzky was good for he's era,Lemieux was leading he's era,he just happen to b at the right time,put it up this way,if gretz was born 25years after he was,he probably b in the league right now,with the todays rules,YOU THINK HE COULD DO 215PTS??get it??he's 215pts back then,equals today 130pts!!and half of the team from he's era,u cant even call that a team,gathering a bunch of old man and a goalie..there u go..a team!!

[spezza666]

wtf gretzky is #1 retard

[ferret6677]

Gretzky has the most career playoff goals, assists and points and playoff game winning goals. F you list.

[briankemp2009]

Who thinks Lemieux was better? Gretzky has more cups, more Harts, more Ross's. Lemieux had a season of 199 points, Gretzky averaged 203 over six seasons. Lemieux had one season of better than 100 assists, Gretzky had 11 straight. He broke the assist record in his third season, his fourth season, his fifth season, his seventh season and his eighth season. Lemieux hit 85 golas one year, Gretzky did better than that. Twice. By every measurable statistic, Gretzky was better.

[leonardalancollett]

this host is retard

[KronusSoV]

this is kind of retarded. Wayne set 61 NHL records in about half the time it took for the people who set the original records. the fact he is placed second is stupied. Yeah, Gretz played on great Edmonton teams, but so did Lemieux, who had his best seasons when? When the Pittsburgh teams finally got better, that's when. As Gretzky has said HIMSELF on numerous occasions, great players are great ONLY when they are surrounded by great talent , PERIOD.

[saurash]

You fucking retard. Gretz is the greatest forward of all time.

[BigDumbJerk]

agreed. The numbers speak for themselves.

[Bigglestheman]

@saurash It's about opinion when it comes to these lists. Even though my favorite player is Modano I still say that there are players who are better than him.

[11DNA11]

@saurash Second best forward, third best all-around player, regardless of position.

[uCantCmee13]

If Lemieux wouldnt have gotten cancer he would have shattered Waynes record. Lemieux is "Le Magnifique" Hes the best ever. Not the Gretzky isnt that great I mean those two are in a league of their own but I believe Mario tops him.

[chrisdrhodes]

Just watched the video. this guy is on crack. He even lists his records and still says he #2. Whats wrong with him, I grew up watching Gretzky, the guy was unstoppable. Now everyone says that the game has changed and nobody could do that now. Their probably right but you still can't deni that he is THE GREAT ONE and will always be!

[Ch33seMan]

"players struggle to do that year after year"?! Are you serious?

NOBODY ever did that year after year, except Gretzky and an un-injured Lemieux. NOBODY does that today. Not Ovechkin, not Crosby, not Malkin. NOBODY.

[jonjoe920]

if you think wayne gretzky is 2nd your a moron bud.60 records how can you even compare anybody to him.your a joke bud.think about what you are saying .mario is good but not as good he never got 200 points,and he had jagr......your a moron

[MediaOwnsYourMind]

Then about 80 percent of NHL hockey players are morons too.

You don't see the difference in these 2 players. Apparently all you see is numbers. NHL players see the hockey players, Lemieux and Gretsky and they know the difference. And most think Lemieux had the greater SKILL SET.

[11DNA11]

Lemieux got 199 points, so not quite 200 then. ;) He had Jagr.

Gretzky had Kurri, Messier, Anderson and Coffey. Can't remember the season Lemieux played and was doing points at a pace which could've ended for 220 points, but he got injured.

And about the guys Gretzky played with. They're all 1-5 in playoff all time scoring.

[Dylonus]

Lemiuex didnt have JAgr when he had 199. he had dan quinn and rob brown. both had more than half there career total poonts in the 2 seasons with mario. after that? they never had enough skill to even make it back to the AHL.

Mario had similar numbers as gretzky and his best years were with ABSOLUTELY SHITTY PLAYERS! Greztky played with 4 hall of fame players for around 8 straight seasons and put up all those 200 point seasons.

put mario in edmonton and he breaks 215 EASILY

[11DNA11]

I know he would break that easily. Mainly a Lemieux fan myself.

[Dylonus]

LMAO! Your argument for mario is "he had jagr"

obviously you know little about hockey then.

for a span of 8-9 years Gretzky played on Edmonton with Glenn Anderson, MARK MESSIER, PAUL COFFEY, AND JARI KURRI! ALL OF THEM ARE HALL OF FAME PLAYERS! HE PLAYED WITH ALL THOSE GUYS FOR 8-9 STRAIGHT YEARS

Mario had 199 points in his best season. His linemates were rob brown (whos 2 best seasons were with mario, after that he was in the AHL) and dan quinn, who had a similar fate.

[guyvonjon]

Yeah right, number 2 FORWARD! What a joke. Gretzky has more assists than anyone has points. Do some homework, mojo because your argument here is weak at best.

[lfecht]

He probably would be the second best forward... Considering IT WASN'T HIS POSITION. Do some homework, because your argument here is weak at best.

[guyvonjon]

Ifecht, Gretzky was a forward. Did you ever watch a hockey game? You have no argument at all.

[Dylonus]

not hard to have his stats when he played alongside 4 hall of famers for about 9 strraight years.

mario almost hit 200 points with two guys on his line that shouldnt have even been in the NHL.

think about it. Mario can almost hit 200(his best was 199) with two AHL caliber players but Gretzyk needed 4 hall of famers (3 on his line alone, 2 wingers and a HIGH SCORING DEFENSEMEN) to hit 200?

Yet you still think Gretzky was that much better? Maybe YOU should do some homework.

[guyvonjon]

gretzky played most of his career in edmonton on a line with kurri. the only other noteable regular winger he played with was tikkanen, who is not a hall of famer. anderson and messier were a line of their own. your argument about having a high scoring defenseman to help gretzky is retarded, considering lemieux had that SAME hall of fame defenseman (coffey) during his 199 point year. lemieux had more individual talent, but gretzky has the overall edge in my opinion.

[ghozt812]

apparently you have never heard of "line shuffling"....

mario had coffey when he had 199 points, that is true. but he linemates were dan quinn and rob brown. if you didnt have the mentality of a 3 year old with no reading comprehension, you would have realized i basically already said that.

and if you didnt know.... Messier played LW often in Edmonton... meaning kurri on the right...

mario (outside of coffey) had NO BODIES and put up 199. Gretzky with what several HoFer's? 215.

Yeah. Nice 1!

[guyvonjon]

ghozt812 , it's pathetic to argue about lemieux's one 199 point season when gretzky had 4 of them. when lemieux had francis, jagr, stevens and tochett "line shuffling" around him he still never put up 200 points. you can argue injuries and his health but the fact is nobody has even come close to the amount of records gretzky set. he was likely one of the key factors in helping his teammates become as good as they were. Give it up.

[ORRfan13]

gretz might be the best forward, but bobby orr is undoubtedly the best player of all time and even gretzky doesnt come close...

[lfecht]

Agreed, whoever says Gretzky is better is wrong. OVECHKIN IS THE NEXT FEDEROV, he will be forgotten in ten years.

[guyvonjon]

Are you on glue? Your comments make no sense and contradict themselves.

[ORRfan13]

agreed on orr but it think ovie is gonna be better than federov but not the next lemieux or bossy or gretz....BOBBY ORR IS THE BEST PLAYER EVER TO PLAY

[jonjoe920]

are u a moron bud,orr is a joke,he played hockey when people could not even skate, your a joke bud

[RobBretz]

He was missing something,...Are you a fracking retard? You maybe should comment on something you know something about. When his fellow peers and coaches say that he was the greatest ever to play the game, who would know better than them? Maybe dude hosting this video has a higher hockey IQ than the people that play the game. What a retard.

[sobchuk]

Not number one? My cousin played with him on the Oilers when they were still in the WHA and even he said, this kid is going to go far. Heck, he even put some of my cousin's records to shame, and hes no slouch back then. Look up Dennis Sobchuk and check for yourself on his records. Number 2... what is this world coming to?

[shazariahl]

They felt wayne was missing something? Um... so was Mario. He's missing Wayne 60 NHL records. His best season for points was 199, Wayne broke that 4 times, and had 196 another. His best season for goals was 85, Wayne had 92 and 87. His best for assists was 114. Wayne beat that 7 times, and tied it another (yes, Mario's best assist mark ties Gretzky's 8th best). Wayne had 163 assists. No one these days even gets that many points in a year.

[KingsAce]

I have never heard there be a thought of Mario being the best. Although he had more ppg than Gretz , but how can you put a guy who isn't in the Top 5 as #1.

I guess that's what you get when you have a dude with a slur and looks like he's never skated before host this list.

[Slipknot5301]

@KingsAce wayne's ppg was better than mario's

[oehieze]

faggot...wayne's second to nobody

[math248]

Wayne Grezty is the best player of al-time, not the second best forward.  It's a joke. Nobody come close to him and they just put him as the second best forward of all-time. They most be stupid.

[SRTST51]

Wayne Gretzky #2? Good job MOJO, you just proved, on camera no less, that your credibility as a top 10 rater is flawed.

[sbmikkim]

He should have been like 10, great player, but huge pussy.

[StL33T]

irrelevant, you basically just contradicted yourself. this is not the charts for the toughest nhl player. but for the best nhl players, which wayne gretzky shud be first

[sbmikkim]

True, but I think we have better players coming...his records as a young'in were already broken by Tavares.

Now I saw my error of ways, sorry.

[shazariahl]

Please; Tavares won't be getting 215 points in a season, or 92 goals, or 163 assists. He won't be getting any 51 game point scoring streaks, or 50 goals in 39 games. None of those records are going to be beaten any time soon. And maybe not ever. Also, Wayne's career assist record is untouchable IMO. He has more assists than anyone else has points. It would take another player of equal or greater talent playing more years than Wayne did, because goaltenders and their gear are all better today.