Documentary Recommendation: Lake Of Fire

[DaZeDmerlin]

Abortion is sometimes the best thing to do, our world is getting full, we kill and kill and kill, look at how we need to treat animals for our nutritional benefits, look at how we need to treat aboriginals and indigenous peoples for our living space, look at how we need to polute nature for energy and trafic purposes, when you know your child will grow up in bad condition why is it so bad to prevent it to be born? ignorance is bliss huh?

[halolIlmao0]

Prove to me that The Mighty Lake of Fire.is not form Egyptian mythology.

[tygerreye]

@halolIlmao0 it is

[valerie374]

Interestingly, the world's largest pro-life religious group opposes the death penalty in almost all cases....

[TheCoxblox]

Save America from morons like these! Abort your unborn child today!

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

How can you protect liberty if you don't protect life?

[CadicusTheDamned]

The protection of liberty comes before the protection of life. Better to die on your feet a free man than to live as a slave upon your knees.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

Killing an innocent fetus has absolutely nothing to do with preserving liberty. In the declaration it is Life, then Liberty , then the pursuit of happiness. As it should be. We live in a culture of death that seems to be geared towards rubbing out western civilization. Besides white people should be having more children as they are on the brink of extinction.

[CadicusTheDamned]

White people are not on the brink of extinction. What sort of hyperbole are you engaging in? Perhaps other ethnicities are having more children on average than Europeans and their N. American offspring, but they are not almost extinct.

An unwanted pregnancy is definitely a form of slavery. A woman's body is her own property. Unwanted squatters should be evicted.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

Nope, white people are experiencing extreme population declines, they aren't having as many children as they used to. In order for a civilization to maintain itself for 25 years a fertility rate of 2.11 children per family is need. I didn't just take the woman to produce that fetus, I say the man has rights to it as well. An unwanted pregnancy is NOT a form of slavery sorry but there are too many other options so that you don't get pregnant.

[CadicusTheDamned]

Hello? McFly? The Catholics and far right Protestants want to outlaw birth control too. Give those fuckers an inch and they try to take the entire ruler.

Here's a thought experiment that you ought to try as a man:

Imagine being pregnant with a kid you cannot afford and do not want.

Personally, you put a human in my body and tell me that I will have to unwillingly host it in my body for nine months, and I WILL FIND A WAY TO KILL IT.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

Check out the fertility rates of European countries by white people, then the fertility rates of the third worlders that are immigrating in hordes, especially arab muslims. White people are on the way out.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

Demographics matter, what do you think is going to happen in these countries when white people become a minority?

[CadicusTheDamned]

I really don't care. I'm not having any children, because I think the future is completely fucked as far as homo sapiens goes. I do not approve of humans in general and refuse to let my perfectly superb DNA to be sullied by the rest of humanity.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

Lol, okay. Well what can I say to that.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

Look deeper into Chomsky's agenda he leans towards gun control and more UN controls on the United States, I used to follow him but the more I read about him and within his own writings I don't trust the guy. He also speaks of "family planning" in this video which was introduced primarily by planned parenthood which has a checkered past with its negative eugenics loving founder Margaret Sanger and population control agenda.

[CadicusTheDamned]

Chomsky claims to be an anarchist. I do find anarchists that support gun control rather amusing.

I don't march in lockstep to anyone. I am not actually a fan of his, but I enjoy hearing his side of things.

Eugenics? Shit, I think if you need a license to drive a car, you ought to need one to be a parent.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

Sure planned parenthood was based on negative Eugenics, just read Margaret Sanger's Woman and The New Race or The Pivot of Civilization. Well I'm a hard core libertarian so no I don't think you should have a license to have a child lol.

[CadicusTheDamned]

I am actually a member of the Libertarian Party. I just find willfully ignorant people rampantly reproducing disgusting and inconvenient. Also, it directly translates into a tax burden. Things aren't always as simple as the party makes it out to be. Abortion is just one issue I disagree with them about. Sterilizing retards seems reasonable to me. Then again, I had a vasectomy, so I don't see why those that are incapable of caring for themselves should reproduce.

[thefitzs]

"Sterilizing retards seems reasonable to me. Then again, I had a vasectomy..." That made me crack up. Not implying anything, just found humor in that passage. I am one of the "Fuckers" of whom you speak, and last I checked Catholics aren't trying to outlaw birth control. The Church teaches that in a truly loving marital relationship, sex should include husband, wife and God - marital sex closely emulates the Trinity. (more to come)

[thefitzs]

When a couple uses artificial b.c. they are no longer open to the very purpose God had in mind for marital sex - life. Marital sex is for procreative and unitive purposes and should always be left open to the possibility of life. HOWEVER, the church also recognizes that there are responsible ways of limiting the number of offspring without totally closing the door to life, and that is naturally family planning. Catholic churches teach how it's practiced as part of their pre-canaa counseling.

[thefitzs]

I think the hierarchy is very aware that not everyone is Catholic, and not everyone who IS Catholic is truly living their faith. I know the Vatican speaks of the evils of b.c. but I don't remember seeing anything about any Catholic groups fighting to outlaw it here in the U.S. About the documentary-how can you watch it, see the body parts of the aborted baby, and support abortion rights? I will never understand it.

[CadicusTheDamned]

Let's just agree on the joys of consensual man and woman anal sex then, shall we?

[thefitzs]

I know you do your best to sound "edgy" and intellectual, but at the end of the day, you're just devoid of purpose. That's sad.

[CadicusTheDamned]

No, it's not. This is my CHOICE.

Actually, I just need a girlfriend. In the middle of a divorce. If you haven't been there yourself, fuck you.

[thefitzs]

I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't been there myself because when I got married and took my vows, I meant them with everything I had. Marriage is freaking hard - it's a constant and conscious choice that you make, every day, to do the best you can despite any difficulties, anger, misunderstandings, etc. I have been married 22.5 years to one man. Back in the day, I decided not to settle for someone I wasn't absolutely sure of. Not to say it's always been easy, but with God, we make it work.

[CadicusTheDamned]

There is no such thing as God and plenty of born again Christians get divorced. Besides God, there is health, finances, career, and emotional well being to consider. Judge not lest ye be judged, woman.

[thefitzs]

You don't make sense, but I digress.

[CadicusTheDamned]

My heart is still beating and I still need to get laid. Plus, I have a dog to take care of. Fuck you, you little judgemental fucking prick. The fucking OIL INTERESTS are after me this year.

[mwells219]

@thefitzs well then it's a good thing we have separation of church and state in america otherwise no one would be legally able to have sex unless is was by the prohibitive rules set by your wacky cult.

[mwells219]

@thefitzs No you're wrong. The vatican has been saying contaceptives are evil since the 1960's. And no religion gets to decide for anyone else what a "loving" relationship is until you can actually produce god and use scientific observation to show that he actually exists, otherwise you're going off of man made mythology.

[queerveganliberal]

If you read her work then you would know that she was actually against abortion. Margaret Sanger may have been a huge advocate for birth control, but she was ardently opposed to abortion.

In a chapter from Woman and the New Race (1920) entitled "Contraceptives or Abortion?," Sanger wrote, "I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization"

She notes in her autobiography her opposition to Abortion was because of the life of a fetus

[CadicusTheDamned]

Cancer is human life. You get a tumor cut from your body and I will accuse you of playing God.

[fehquig]

Thanks for the recommendation... Documentaries should be unbiased no matter what the leanings of the director may happen to be...

[DebateCrusher]

Sounds like atheists trying to invent morality because they want it.

[CadicusTheDamned]

Morality is a human concept.

[TheScrewOnHead]

Chomsky reminds me of the Carlin quote "Conservatives want live babies so they can have dead soldiers."

[CadicusTheDamned]

I've always thought the same thing too, as a military veteran and as an awake human.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

There are many secularists that are against abortion as well. I hate when people use antireligious sentiments to be prochoice. Just read the Hippocratic Oath: I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.

But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts. Western values are against abortion, also the purpose of our species is to procreate.

[CadicusTheDamned]

Speak for yourself. I decide my own purpose. And I choose not to procreate. We aren't exactly running out of humans are we? We are the most numerous mammals on the planet. There are more humans than rats.

[ProfMTH]

Thanks for the recommendation.

Love the blue, by the way.

[CadicusTheDamned]

Thanks, Prof!

[CadicusTheDamned]

What have you been up to lately, Prof? I've been put through a lot of bullshit just because some pricks might be a little jealous of how I have set myself up. Divorce sucks and some people can't handle a man that calls the FBI on their fucking X Files.

[ProfMTH]

Hey, Cadicus. Sorry to hear that you've been dealing with bullshit. I hope things are bullshit-free in 2010.

[CadicusTheDamned]

Cool. I see where you are coming from.

[CadicusTheDamned]

@ProfMTH Sorry, about the post above. I was off my medication for a while. I'm schizo-affective.

[ProfMTH]

@CadicusTheDamned No worries. I hope you're doing well. Happy Holidays. All good things in 2011.

[CadicusTheDamned]

@ProfMTH Yeah, I'm doing okay. Living in Anchorage. Looking forward to New Year's Eve at Mad Myrna's, a gay bar that happens to be within walking distance. That's important in this arctic wonderland.