Star Trek - Forrest's speech and Enterprise launch

[Alex2424121]

I just love these touching speeches

[miln40]

and those .2 degrees translate into parsecs after a while. And then the Enterprise runs out of gas ;)

[chetdog]

the speech should be ' when we can build the warp 5 engine, I can sell it for a quick buck and spend it on tequila and hookers.' thats the real vision of zefran cochrane

[Alex2424121]

@chetdog in the star trek universe as captain picard said in first contact "The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity."

[SawdustProductions]

@chetdog "THAT'S Zefram Cochrane. THAT'S his vision!"

[chetdog]

@SawdustProductions

fucking spot on mate.

[Azakhiel]

That was a surprisingly good show. It's just unfortunate they didn't get a 5th season. Also, Sato and Mayweather didn't get enough focus, and some things could've been done better, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. And no matter that the NX-01 is Akira-like. It actually looks better, in my opinion.

[Dohkag0Grahlodd]

It was a pretty good show, i agree. But don't you ppl think, this is part of the Mirror Universe (ST:2009)? As we know, this is the first enterprise (NX-01) But the Kirk from TOS captained their first enterprise (Constitution). And in 2009, we've seen Mirror Scotty meantioning Portho's. So i think, this should be a part of the wholo mirror universe. And to be honest, the NX-01 looks hell better than TOS Constitution, or even the refit.. So.. What do you think?

[Azakhiel]

@Dohkag0Grahlodd No. They had a 2-part episode IN the mirror-universe. Enterprise was in the "prime" universe, although I guess you could rationalise by saying that the events of First Contact changed the timeline a bit.

[Azakhiel]

@Dohkag0Grahlodd Ah... you mean, the "new" timeline ? No. If we follow Star Trek in Narration order and not in chronological order, it makes a lot more sense, and it removes any and all grievance about them changing the timeline all the time. Anyway, since Nero goes back in time to a time _after_ Enterprise, I guess you could say it's _also_ part of the new timeline.

[MrHoppers002]

that's a good joke.

[generalcircle]

Forrest: "Space is like a bowx ove chooocolaates."

[seethebob]

1:42 - 1:47 Xbox controller!

[ColonelFleet]

god speed..........

[USSDragonfireNX84]

Is it just me or does T'pol look a lil stoned lol

[fred5399]

@USSDragonfireNX84 No shes just hott like that.

[priyonjoni]

at 0:05 does anyone else notice the wrong angle of the perspective to the enterprise?

[bayimaccus]

NCC-1914

Dios te tenga en su santa gloria por siempre.

[liptonBlueBirdAdd]

Archer: Prepare for warp.

Mayweather: Course laid in, sir. Request permission to get underway.

T'Pol: The coordinates are off by .2 degrees.

Archer: (annoyed at the science officer) Thank you. Let's go.

Archer is a total d*ck! When you're moving at superluminal speeds, 0.2 degrees becomes a big factor. It could be the difference between arriving at a planet's orbit or flying into the parent star.

Screw you, science officer! I want to go fast!!! Yeehaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spacecowboy5000]

@liptonBlueBirdAdd I don't think the scene was written for scientific purposes. Rather I think it was to show Archer's attitude towards Vulcans more than anything. Whether she'd said 0.2 degrees or 68.2 degrees Archer's answer would have been the same.

[liptonBlueBirdAdd]

@spacecowboy5000 That was my point.

Archer dismisses the input of his science officer, like she was a nobody. But if T'Pol felt the need to interject this piece of information then it was probably relevant to the situation at hand.

This scene establishes that Archer is a racist d*ck. He's willing to risk his ship and all hands aboard so he can tell off a Vulcan. Do you think Archer would have responded as rudely as he did if T'Pol happened to be human?

[spacecowboy5000]

@liptonBlueBirdAdd I agree with all that. I'm saying the writers were establishing him as an intollerant dick ("asshole" also applies). It took him almost an entire season to lose that negative attitude. In the end both he and T'Pol became good friends. But the writers really wanted to show how most humans felt about beeing kept down by "the man" (Vulcans) when they had the urge to soar. To be sure, the Vulcans treated us like a conquered race. Just character development.

[liptonBlueBirdAdd]

@spacecowboy5000 Okay. As long as you realize I don't really care about the actual numbers quoted in the show. I love Star Trek but they often get science wrong but I still love it.

And I get what the writers were aiming for with Archer's mistrust of the Vulcan hierarchy. However, I thought there were more subtle ways to portray this then putting the whole crew at risk.

Perhaps the writers didn't think we could pick up on Archer's bigotry without this obvious scene :)

[StelarCF]

@spacecowboy5000 or 360.2 deegrees LOL

[dfoxx007]

"The coordinates are off by .2 degrees"

The most irritating Vulcan ever. Though Soval was a close second.

In fact a majority of the Enterprise vulcans were jerks. T'Pau was okay, but I consider her to be a TOS Vulcan since thats when she first appeared.

[MisterWhat]

@dfoxx007

I liked that they were jerks. They shouldn`t be the same as of TOS.

[StelarCF]

@dfoxx007 TOS Vulcans FTW

[GraceSpringHill]

I like "punch it" better than "let's go"

[ColonelFleet]

somebody needs to turn on "magic carpet ride"......

[ColonelFleet]

God speed......engage......

[nopoet406]

"...we have waded ankle deep in the ocean of space. Now it's finally time to swim." How nobody laughed at that line is hard to understand.

Archer was supposed to have been given command of Enterprise for being the best captain, not because he was the son of its engine designer.

[MisterWhat]

@nopoet406

In the context of ENT, there was no parameters of what an "Enterprise" Captain should be like. Those parameters were only created after.

[StelarCF]

@nopoet406 He WAS the best captain as he knew the designs point blank.

[babylon218]

@nopoet406 it's just a coincidence

[jimbopumbapigsticks]

@nopoet406 I know. It looks like the Vulcans are the only ones who realise how utterly moronic that sounds.

[billyboyjennings]

@nopoet406 Well, we do see that the Vulcans were like, "What the fuck did he just say?" after he said that.

[BountyHunterSAx]

. . . What an abscondantly horribly stupid reason to name someone captain. That's like saying, "Since George W. Bush' father was in charge during the original Gulf War which ended with a US victory, it's only fitting that his son be given charge of the country now."

Retarded.

[Kirok]

Well played, sir!

[thanks51]

Archer actually served in Starfleet. He wasn't a coward like Bush. Theres the difference.

[BountyHunterSAx]

You entirely missed the point. If they had said, "It is fitting, Archer being the greatest ______ in Starfleet Academy, that he now take command of this vessel.", then *thats* the reason.

When GW Bush took office the *reason* was that he won the election (theoretically).

But here apparently they decided it purely on the basis of the daddy clause . . . and they *admitted* it in the speech.

-AHMAD

[Thimbles2]

Cool semantics bro. I'm sure all of that would roll off the tongue in a motivational speech.

Have you considered a career in public speaking by chance?

[Badboy21thekiller]

@thanks51 hi how do u know he was not a coward like bush evn though scoot bakula look almost like bush and even sound like him

[StelarCF]

@BountyHunterSAx that was NOT the reason

[thewildborne]

@BountyHunterSAx

What he is actually saying is that Archer deserved the command no matter what, but it is good that the son of the maker of the Warp 5 engine is the commander.

And the gulf war being a victory, well, your mileage may vary

[FLAME4564]

@thewildborne good point. Since Johnathan was indeed the son of Henry. As the old saying goes. Like father. Like Son.

[Thedesertcoyote]

This is one of the few moments I like in this show. It's always nice to see a new Enterprise being launched, even if it's not my favorite incarnation of the beautiful lady, and nice to see Zefram Cochrane again, giving the new engine his blessing.

That, and Vanugh Armstrong kicks ass. XD

[thanks51]

Agreed. Enterprise being launched is always an awesome sight, but ST:TMP set a standard with that launch that has never been duplicated or even touched.

[alienodellospazio]

i luve enterprise i loooove it!!! archer THB

[3goldy]

It's not what I had in mind :-( .