Do you still got these? I just picked this setup and the stand says hoist, but the weight plates say ironmaster on them, just wondering if I bought the extra plates from ironmaster if theyd work
hey man, is the only thing holding the plates to the bar friction from the screw? will they slide off if u place the dumbbell upside down and shake it around?
@InternetJunky6 I've never seen Hoists. They seem to be a copy of Ironmmaster: Specially threaded screws, not friction, lock tightly as fixed-weight dumbbells. Is Hoist really the same, & built as well as Ironmaster? i don't know. I can see that the slotted plates make changes faster, but that seems like a trade-off with possible slippage. i wouldn't swing Hoists the way i swing my ironmasters.
@mad: Hoist's quicker; You don't remove pins to change plates. After my last post, I've discovered Hoist IS the original IM design, licensed out to Hoist. Thus, they're built just as well as IMs, but slotted plates aren't as secure with heavy weights. IM DBs might rattle a little if not properly tightened, but a loose Hoist DB will drop plates. If you stay under 50 lbs & always check the tightness, they're fine.
@madmestesoskillz Not necessarily. If going up in small increments, then the IM is slightly faster, but with big shifts in weight change than the Hoist beats out on the IM. I've owned both sets.
@lazur1 No slippage. These are Ironmaster's original design before they sold their patent to Hoist and switched their dumbbell design to what it is today. Personally, I have owned Ironmasters, Hoist adjustable, and power blocks U90. In terms of practicality and enjoyment of working out I prefer Powerblocks > Ironmasters > Hoist.
Ironmasters are nearly 600 dollars after shipping/tax. Extremely overpriced for what they are though, so in the end I would probably go for the hoist
@d:I'd already posted the IM/H lineage. / If you make lots of weight changes, PBs best, but the cage, forks, elastic connectors, & rattling, (on the model I had), bugged the hell outta me. / I admit I merely assumed Hs were less secure than IM, especially for explosive swings: Seemed a logical reason why IM stopped using the slot. Why -did- they stop? / IM's 1-time higher expense was no big deal to get exactly what I wanted, especially compared to reoccurring costs like gym memberships.
@lazur1 For me, the only benefits of the IM is that they feel like a real dumbbell. PB wins in all other aspects. With practicality and quality construction, the powerblocks are far more superior. The Ironmasters was a pain to do drop weight set or super sets. Working out with another person who is unequal in strength posed another set of problem. IMO, the IM offer no real world benefit that is different than a set of Olympic style dumbbell handles. BTW, new PBs are much quieter
Do you still got these? I just picked this setup and the stand says hoist, but the weight plates say ironmaster on them, just wondering if I bought the extra plates from ironmaster if theyd work
psychogsx 1 month ago
@psychogsx
Yes, if the plates you have are from Ironmasters they will work. Just remember to buy the longer screw locks
daitrong 1 month ago
hey man, is the only thing holding the plates to the bar friction from the screw? will they slide off if u place the dumbbell upside down and shake it around?
InternetJunky6 1 year ago
@InternetJunky6 I've never seen Hoists. They seem to be a copy of Ironmmaster: Specially threaded screws, not friction, lock tightly as fixed-weight dumbbells. Is Hoist really the same, & built as well as Ironmaster? i don't know. I can see that the slotted plates make changes faster, but that seems like a trade-off with possible slippage. i wouldn't swing Hoists the way i swing my ironmasters.
lazur1 11 months ago
@lazur1 it looks like iron master is easier and faster with the weight change.
madmestesoskillz 9 months ago
@mad: Hoist's quicker; You don't remove pins to change plates. After my last post, I've discovered Hoist IS the original IM design, licensed out to Hoist. Thus, they're built just as well as IMs, but slotted plates aren't as secure with heavy weights. IM DBs might rattle a little if not properly tightened, but a loose Hoist DB will drop plates. If you stay under 50 lbs & always check the tightness, they're fine.
lazur1 9 months ago
@madmestesoskillz Not necessarily. If going up in small increments, then the IM is slightly faster, but with big shifts in weight change than the Hoist beats out on the IM. I've owned both sets.
daitrong 1 month ago
@lazur1 No slippage. These are Ironmaster's original design before they sold their patent to Hoist and switched their dumbbell design to what it is today. Personally, I have owned Ironmasters, Hoist adjustable, and power blocks U90. In terms of practicality and enjoyment of working out I prefer Powerblocks > Ironmasters > Hoist.
Ironmasters are nearly 600 dollars after shipping/tax. Extremely overpriced for what they are though, so in the end I would probably go for the hoist
daitrong 1 month ago
@d:I'd already posted the IM/H lineage. / If you make lots of weight changes, PBs best, but the cage, forks, elastic connectors, & rattling, (on the model I had), bugged the hell outta me. / I admit I merely assumed Hs were less secure than IM, especially for explosive swings: Seemed a logical reason why IM stopped using the slot. Why -did- they stop? / IM's 1-time higher expense was no big deal to get exactly what I wanted, especially compared to reoccurring costs like gym memberships.
lazur1 1 month ago
@lazur1 For me, the only benefits of the IM is that they feel like a real dumbbell. PB wins in all other aspects. With practicality and quality construction, the powerblocks are far more superior. The Ironmasters was a pain to do drop weight set or super sets. Working out with another person who is unequal in strength posed another set of problem. IMO, the IM offer no real world benefit that is different than a set of Olympic style dumbbell handles. BTW, new PBs are much quieter
daitrong 4 weeks ago
@InternetJunky6 Nope, very secure.
daitrong 4 weeks ago