Of the 104.5 million cattle produced in 2005, only 0.18 percent died as the result of predation. In comparison, 3.69 percent were lost to illness, weather, theft and poison. Coyotes killed 97,000 cattle. Domestic dogs killed 21,900. Wolves killed remarkably few cattle, 4,400. In Minnesota, a state with nearly 500 times as many wolves as Oregon, they were responsible for just 0.65% of cattle losses. That number is 0.74% in neighboring Idaho.
The wolves are not un-managed. State, federal agencies and other agencies are helping to fund the management of wolves. The wolves are tracked with radio and gps collars. They are studied and monitored (including using trail cameras and people on the ground). Non-lethal programs and kill permits have been issued (and carried out). I think this video would have people believe that the wolves are legally protected and given carte blanche on livestock.
@TheMajestuoso Wolves are given what you describe "carte blanche" on livestock. Non-lethal methods can only be applied "after" livestock depredation has occurred. Kill permits have been issued, one has been carried out, additional two have not been carried out after Defenders of Wildlife threatened to sue the US Wildlife Services.
They carry collars that can only be tracked at close encounter meaning they are non GPS collars. At this point and time there is not a single wolf that is collard with a GPS collar in Wallowa County, Oregon.
@TheMajestuoso are you a fucking retard?? I grew up where these cattle were killed by your state, and federally managed wolves. The only reason they wear tracking collars is so they can recover it when i kill one and send the collar down the line at a truck stop. Your state and fedaral governments have denied wolves being in Baker, Wallowa and Union county for almost 10 years and those "unconfirmed" kills are their way of still denying them. "unconfirmed" has been around a while.
I am in Australia and it;s the same bullshit with Dingoes,I am a sheep farmer and I have had enough. People want them protected too,and the government caves in everytime-I cannot kill a Dingo without a permit,and even then ONLY after an inspector has determined it was in fact a Dingo. I can't legally kill one if I caught it killing my herd,would have to call authorities first. Sorry f*ck that,I'll shoot it and shut up,but why should i become a criminal to protect my business?
The sad thing is that if you look over to the right hand side of the screen these are all the people that want to save the wolves that are killing a lot of peoples lively hoods. These animals are killing ranchers dreams and making them loose their homes. Sad, The worst part is that people cannot protect their livestock because of these environmental activists.
@RachieBoh Im Also sad for the calf but int the other hand their are like 5,000,000 more and their is only 500- 1500 wolves left in the wild, We can replace the calf but we cant replace the wolf. And by the way we moved into wolf territory and we took their land with their food and not to mention their habitat, Wolfs play a big role in the U.S. which is to keep the U.S. Balanced with the herbivors. We need wolves to help us. And they Sould not be hunted or killed.
@WQTinderWolf@WQTinderWolf There are certainly more than 1500 wolves nationwide. At the end of 2009, the estimated minimum number of wolves in the northern Rocky Mountain States of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming was 1,706 wolves alone. That does not take in account numbers from other states where wolves have also been re-introduced.
@WQTinderWolf Idiot!! Your right to a T! They were here first. Yup! your so smart. Um now what do we do? Just move the fuck out and let the wolves take over and eventually kill them selfs off cause they killed more then they could eat for fun. See we not only killed off wolves but there habitat to. Ok so now we need to "Manage" them from here on out! Why cant you city slickin, pot smokin hippys understand that? I guess we could move them to the west side!
@RachieBoh Why cant people understand that we must manage the system as a whole? Not just one species but all. Of course we all like the fact wolves are in oregon, cool. However we must manage them just like bear and couger. Well, we havent actually been real sucessfull on the bear and couger since the use of dogs were band back in 93 due to it being cruel to the dogs! Ok, so now the fish and game pay contractors to do the same job with dogs and will pay 1500 bucks for each dogs vet bill!
@RachieBoh So, instead of the public paying for couger and bear tags and going out at there own expence to manage cougers and bear, we pay about 6000 bucks per cat killed. Now I hate to bust open a good thing so I will leave it there. Why not give us the dogs back and youll see less cats entering town and give more room for the wolves. Well not much cause wolves kill tooo much and breed to fast! wolves have up to 3 litters a year. deer elk 1 if lucky a year. couger actually eat all they kill.
Of the 104.5 million cattle produced in 2005, only 0.18 percent died as the result of predation. In comparison, 3.69 percent were lost to illness, weather, theft and poison. Coyotes killed 97,000 cattle. Domestic dogs killed 21,900. Wolves killed remarkably few cattle, 4,400. In Minnesota, a state with nearly 500 times as many wolves as Oregon, they were responsible for just 0.65% of cattle losses. That number is 0.74% in neighboring Idaho.
TheMajestuoso 1 year ago
The wolves are not un-managed. State, federal agencies and other agencies are helping to fund the management of wolves. The wolves are tracked with radio and gps collars. They are studied and monitored (including using trail cameras and people on the ground). Non-lethal programs and kill permits have been issued (and carried out). I think this video would have people believe that the wolves are legally protected and given carte blanche on livestock.
TheMajestuoso 1 year ago
@TheMajestuoso Wolves are given what you describe "carte blanche" on livestock. Non-lethal methods can only be applied "after" livestock depredation has occurred. Kill permits have been issued, one has been carried out, additional two have not been carried out after Defenders of Wildlife threatened to sue the US Wildlife Services.
wallowavalleyonline 1 year ago
@wallowavalleyonline Im tired of paying for this study program. If we want to learn about wolves go to canada its cheaper!
puddlejumper98 1 year ago
They carry collars that can only be tracked at close encounter meaning they are non GPS collars. At this point and time there is not a single wolf that is collard with a GPS collar in Wallowa County, Oregon.
wallowavalleyonline 1 year ago
@TheMajestuoso They are protected dumb ass!!!
puddlejumper98 1 year ago
@TheMajestuoso are you a fucking retard?? I grew up where these cattle were killed by your state, and federally managed wolves. The only reason they wear tracking collars is so they can recover it when i kill one and send the collar down the line at a truck stop. Your state and fedaral governments have denied wolves being in Baker, Wallowa and Union county for almost 10 years and those "unconfirmed" kills are their way of still denying them. "unconfirmed" has been around a while.
combatcurtful 3 months ago
I am in Australia and it;s the same bullshit with Dingoes,I am a sheep farmer and I have had enough. People want them protected too,and the government caves in everytime-I cannot kill a Dingo without a permit,and even then ONLY after an inspector has determined it was in fact a Dingo. I can't legally kill one if I caught it killing my herd,would have to call authorities first. Sorry f*ck that,I'll shoot it and shut up,but why should i become a criminal to protect my business?
DingoHunterDan 1 year ago
Related videos may not reflect the opinion of Wallowa Valley Online and Oregonians for the right to protect People, Pets and Livestock from Wolves
wallowavalleyonline 1 year ago
The sad thing is that if you look over to the right hand side of the screen these are all the people that want to save the wolves that are killing a lot of peoples lively hoods. These animals are killing ranchers dreams and making them loose their homes. Sad, The worst part is that people cannot protect their livestock because of these environmental activists.
RachieBoh 1 year ago
@RachieBoh Im Also sad for the calf but int the other hand their are like 5,000,000 more and their is only 500- 1500 wolves left in the wild, We can replace the calf but we cant replace the wolf. And by the way we moved into wolf territory and we took their land with their food and not to mention their habitat, Wolfs play a big role in the U.S. which is to keep the U.S. Balanced with the herbivors. We need wolves to help us. And they Sould not be hunted or killed.
WQTinderWolf 1 year ago
@WQTinderWolf @WQTinderWolf There are certainly more than 1500 wolves nationwide. At the end of 2009, the estimated minimum number of wolves in the northern Rocky Mountain States of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming was 1,706 wolves alone. That does not take in account numbers from other states where wolves have also been re-introduced.
wallowavalleyonline 1 year ago
(fwp.mt.gov/wildthings/management/wolf/population.html)
wallowavalleyonline 1 year ago
@WQTinderWolf Idiot!! Your right to a T! They were here first. Yup! your so smart. Um now what do we do? Just move the fuck out and let the wolves take over and eventually kill them selfs off cause they killed more then they could eat for fun. See we not only killed off wolves but there habitat to. Ok so now we need to "Manage" them from here on out! Why cant you city slickin, pot smokin hippys understand that? I guess we could move them to the west side!
puddlejumper98 1 year ago
@RachieBoh Why cant people understand that we must manage the system as a whole? Not just one species but all. Of course we all like the fact wolves are in oregon, cool. However we must manage them just like bear and couger. Well, we havent actually been real sucessfull on the bear and couger since the use of dogs were band back in 93 due to it being cruel to the dogs! Ok, so now the fish and game pay contractors to do the same job with dogs and will pay 1500 bucks for each dogs vet bill!
puddlejumper98 1 year ago
@RachieBoh So, instead of the public paying for couger and bear tags and going out at there own expence to manage cougers and bear, we pay about 6000 bucks per cat killed. Now I hate to bust open a good thing so I will leave it there. Why not give us the dogs back and youll see less cats entering town and give more room for the wolves. Well not much cause wolves kill tooo much and breed to fast! wolves have up to 3 litters a year. deer elk 1 if lucky a year. couger actually eat all they kill.
puddlejumper98 1 year ago