Allah will judge between us. The fact remains that Elijah Muhammad dedicated his life to an ungrateful and treacherous race. He loved us so much that he took Detroit Red and made him into Malcolm X; FOR US. Then he repeated this act of love with Cassius Clay and gave us Muhammad Ali. Then he did it again with Louis Walcott and gave us Louis Farrakhan. All so we could turn around and stab him in the back. This is why Black people are at the bottom of society. This is why they call us niggers.
The NOI's record speaks for itself. How many lives have our haters saved? How many drug addicts, alcoholics, women abusers, gang bangers, prostitutes, and pimps have they reformed? The NOI is known ALL OVER EARTH for saving lives (INCLUDING MALCOLM'S). What about our haters? How many farms, schools, and businesses have they established; EVER? These so-called Malcolm followers haven't produced ANYTHING but negativity about us. They remind me of the FBI's Counter Intelligence Program.
His murder has been blamed on Whites for decades even though he states it was the NOI that was trying to kill him. The NOI is who murdered this bright young man.
Lets stop the hate among American citizens and work together to save our nation from the Evil that wants to destroy us
"We grant the Home in the Hereafter to those who do not seek superiority on earth or spread corruption: the happy ending is awarded to those who are mindful of God." Quran 28:83
He developed a martyr complex. Should have taken more precautions-- seems like he just got tired and gave up. US govt was coming for him along with the Black Muslims. To act without self-preservation and additional precautions= self-sacrifice. There's a big difference between cautiousness and fear. He wasn't afraid, but he wasn't cautious either.
How can any African have anything to do with Islam.. watch 'Africa Slave Islam' and witness 1400 years of african slavery which continues till today.. Discover how africans are even today taken and made into slaves 'modern slave islam'.. Discover how african male slaves are castrated so they are not as aggressive and cannot have sex with female slaves they guard. Muslim traders sold slaves into Europe. The Arabic word for African is 'Abeed' which also means Slave of a Slave
Damn I get chills everytime I hear brother Malcom X speak. I am sure to tell my kids one day of the great black leaders like him who stood for what was right and feared NO ONE! RIP Malcom X
which one of you muslim leaders are going to bring to trial this elijah for these crimes or are you going to turn you head? we are waiting. don't say Allah if you cant face the truth. Allah demands truth
The enemy uses every race,nationality,gender, status in society to hurt God's ppl, the worst thing we can do is label our enemy as one particular sect of ppl....the enemy is everywhere!!
If the body was made in stages, how was each part "sustained" until all other parts were complete? Suppose He made brain first. Was it held in a cosmic soup awaiting the other parts? Please answer?
A body /brain is self sustaining by the Power of Allah. He gives us that. Do you eat? Drink water? It is your choice what to eat drink etc. When Allah first created our bodies, what part did He create first? How long did it take and did any part at any time exist as an incomplete step along the way until all other parts and systems of the body were complete? Or do you think He waved a magic wand and “poofed” the body into being all at once.
P.S. It may be you think the white man was an angel for his causing the death of 50 to 150 million of my people during the middle passage from Afrika to America and his overall treatment of us.(black people) I agree with Mr. Muhammad. Devil. Definitely not the work of an angel. Do you perhaps believe in that cloven foot pitchfork weilding creature that resides deep in the bowels of the earth? I thank mr. Muhammad for helping our people out of that slavery teaching
@ThePstar19 .. what are you talking about? It was Islam that have been trading and are STILL Trading SLAVES IN AFRICA.. watch on youtube 'africa slave Islam' then watch 'modern slave africa' .. see how your muslim slave masters castrated blacks so that they did not even breed! Europe was sold slaves by Islamic traders.. Europe totally banned slavery 200 years ago.. But Islam still has slavery because the Qaran says you can take slaves. Qaran means SLAVERY IS FOREVER = ISLAM
@TheJoeB1Kanobe yeah man. that is still going on till this day. as a muslim i am disgraced. but the thing is in islam, if you go against the five pillars of islam, you are not considered muslim.
@dibosh80 .. The past we can not change.. BUT It breaks my Heart that it is still happening! These stories must be told and the truth must shine.. we owe it to our kids and future generations.. Brings tear to my eyes to hear the stories of people that have escaped slavery. how they are branded, treated like animals.. Made to convert to Islam and pray.. Qaran is suppose to be forever which makes Slavery for ever.. THEY KILLED MALCOLM AND FOR WHAT? Sorry.. Islam is more important than God
@dibosh80 .. As I am sure you know - Apostates - those that leave Islam can be killed according to Islam.. do you think the Muslim Brother Hood would let Malcolm leave Islam.. NO THEY DID NOT.. .. Watch what happens in 'London Apostate Violence' .. watch how people are treated when they try leave Islam..
@TheJoeB1Kanobe i dont think 'those that leave Islam can be killed...' is correct, but malcolm still remained a muslim for the rest of his life. the reason why he left the nation is because he did not agree with some of its preachings. the nation preached hate towards whites whereas, true islam teaches peace towards humanity. when malcolm went to mecca, he saw white muslims, black muslims, asian muslim etc, when malcolm saw this he wanted to leave the nation.
@dibosh80 .. you should learn your qaran! There is a number of passages in the Qaran that order the death of those that try to leave islam! in a number of islamic countries there is a death penalty for leaving islam! You really should do some of your own research! Malcolm was killed because he wanted to leave islam.. He was not a muslim when he was killed.. get your facts right
@TheJoeB1Kanobe what the fuck? get your facts right. islam and the nation of islam are not the same thing! ive told you the differenece between them in previous comments. he wanted to leave the nation of islam not islam. he says the muslim greeting before he dies (/watch?v=7MMyN3v8UJY) by the way have you read passages from a quaran or the internet?
@dibosh80 lookup 'africa slave Islam' and witness that an estimate of 30% of African slaves are muslim.. Check out that the word 'Abeed' used for a Black african also means 'slave of a slave'.. An esitimate of 100 million africans have died as slaves under islam.. Men are castrated to keep them calm and so they can not have sex with the women they are made to guard! wow what a wonderful religion!
@dibosh80 .. You sir should get out and read some other texts.. why would i follow a Book that makes my brother a Slave! have you watched 'africa Islam slave' .. or 'Modern Islam slave' ! Have you! you put this stupid text above the lives of 100 million africans that have died as slave in Islam! DO YOU SEE HOW MANY DIE DUE TO ISLAM EVERY DAY! .. Sorry There is a much Better future for the world. ISLAM = SLAVERY FOREVER
@TheJoeB1Kanobe honestly, what the hell is wrong with you? you dont know anything about islam do you? in islam we dont follow videos from youtube which are made from self righteous idiots, we follow rules from the quran. get your head checked, the quran mentions a lot more things then slavery. if you dont bother reading a true quran (directly from the book!) you can never justify yourself, other than "look up africa slave Islam"
@dibosh80 what is wrong with you brother.. You follow a cult that tells you to either kill or make people slaves in the name of God? Are you serious! you are the person with a serious mental issue.. then you make a person called mohammad who kills hundreds of unarmed people a prophet? are you serious! where do you see this taking the world! and what if we do not agree with you then kill us.. wake up
@TheJoeB1Kanobe@TheJoeB1Kanobe before you start making things up from thin air ("kill or make people slaves in the name of God, mohammad who kills hundreds of unarmed people a prophet" etc), read the quran first. im guessing you got this nonsense from the internet? if you dont want to read the quran, thats fine. just dont go around believing things from the internet.
@dibosh80 .. lets seee which bit of the qaran am i missing?
Quran 8:12 Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the believers(Muslims), I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, cut you above their necks and cut all their finger tips off of them (unbelievers).”
@TheJoeB1Kanobe as i said read the quran first. this passage is misinterpreted by many non muslims. this verse is aimed at a period of war (Battle of Badr) which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. The pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years. The muslim army had only 300.
@dibosh80 Kill them if they do not join! Quran 9:5 says,
But when the forbidden months (i.e., 4-month grace-period given in verse 9:2) are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
@dibosh80 .. Maybe you should read your Qaran.. and check out what Islam has done to the African nation.. watch 'Africa Slave Islam" or "Modern Islam Slave" .. hwo can you think that any of this is for God!! Islam spits on God's creation.. wipe your hands of Blood that Islam suck today and from its bloody past
@TheJoeB1Kanobe the 'muslims' in africa are misinterpreting the quran. 'islam spits on gods creation'? we offer peace to all humanity. thats why it is compulsory to greet with 'peace upon you'. you clearly havn't done your research. just try to make us look bad.
@dibosh80 you make all these claims about Islam offering peace, but how come nobody ever quotes them.. Maybe because they do not exist.. Islam is a Eye for an Eye and whatever your right hand can possess.. Are you not ashamed of this?
@TheJoeB1Kanobe 'maybe because they do not exist' how much of an idiot are you. you just quoted from the quran which is full of peace offerings, now you say 'they dont exist'. i proved you wrong in two cases and you still continue to push it. and what do you mean by 'Islam is a Eye for an Eye and whatever your right hand can possess'?
@dibosh80 . "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?"
Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. A second likewise is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."
@dibosh80 Righteousness is to give wealth and charity for the freeing of slaves (Quran 2:177, 9:60, 90:12-18)
TheJoeB1Kanobe is well aware of this but chooses bigotry over peace.
"And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive not." 2:11-12
@2angeline yeah i also believe that TheJoeB1Kanobe is well aware, he continues to defend himself with pointless arguements because he doesnt want to be proven woring.
@2angeline .. wow.. how wonderful Charity in Islam is setting a SLAVE FREE? .. AND WHAT ABOUT ISLAM MAKING PEOPLE SLAVES IN THE FIRST PLACE!.. .. Hey EVERYONE CHECK THIS OUT.. muzzie Girl here thinks she is so kind cause after they kill your nonBelieving arse, and take you wife, children as slaves, they may let them GO! wow now that is charity people! except for the poor black africans that are treated as sub Human.. BAN ISLAM
@TheJoeB1Kanobe also, malcolm found out about elijah muhammads relationships which made him leave even more. after he revealed this information to the public, elijah muhammad ordered people from the nation to assassinate malcolm x. {thats history for ya ;) }
Then your push button analysis and shallow thinking is clearly exposed. Your inability to make comparisons. Unitarian.....you say. You ought to consider you are representing Unitarians. May be a disclaimer is in order. By the way there is much weak minds do not understand. Again more worthless banter raised as what? clever? intellect? ....foolishness!
...your arrogance is off the charts. You seem unable to communicate without the shrill inflated tones that attempt to mask an undisciplined mind bound in the shackles of worthless rhetoric and shallow thinking. What a cheap lie to conflate The Nation with the kkk/nazi. No member of the Nation has ever committed any such acts upon another race as lynching, burning at the stake, rape, and all the other crimes of the kkk/nazi. Now if you make that stretch because we call the white man devil…
Your racism is clear. How dare Elijah Muhammad introduce something that has not been vetted by your master satan who deviated Islam, the message of Moses and Jesus. Now Allah Himself must conform to your "great understanding" that He cannot Make Islam New. Allah has run out of Ability to advance and Renew Islam. Your biggest problem is that it comes through a black man. Allah does as He pleases. He chooses whom He pleases. Afterray demands "revisions" and " new" theological views
@ThePstar19 as you noted : "Your racism is clear." you need to take your head out of the sand and see / smell that your idol (elijah mohammad) is not different (IN THINKING) like the KKK (yeah. you want talk about racism. please)
i respect all people. but when an organization (NOI / KKK / NAZI) tries to justify its creed, my only response is vomit on their races. the NOI tries to twist scripture to fit its POOR views...sorry dude, not everyone under the sun is a thumb sucker...come again.
Your "comprehension" is no stand in for having the correct interpretation of Bible and Quran. It is fine that the words in Message to the Black Man do not suit you. The name of the book is Message to the Black Man in america. A message specifically for Black people and the peculiarities of our condition and experience here. You have a problem with that. It is your racist attitude to that reduces you to a heckler or more a court jester in satan's behalf, the father of your racism.
@ThePstar19 come on now. you can't point the finger about "correct interpretation of Bible and Quran". your IDOL (elijah.m ) and his dogma : "allah in the person of fard" is parallel to the off track concept of the christ in a god. many idiots misinterpreted certain verses (gospels) and attributed to the christ.
it's funny how your idol used the bible / quran to support his ridiculous views (as we know. many poor minds licked his ways).
i support any movement that's against oppression.
@ThePstar19 i respect any organization that's against the oppressor. however, when that organization starts to blame an isolated race, i'll step back and look up the word racism. the NOI / KKK (in their THINKING) are both disgusting. i know that YOU are bothered by my views. i must also keep in mind that many of weak minds will not understand the philosophy of Unitarianism.
As far as your characterizations of the content Bible and Quran as "theological philosophies" ....clear disrespect of the Truth contained in both books. Perhaps you see yourself as somehow superior to the Word of God contained in both.
...."Three generations after me, this (Islam) will not be of me". So called "real Islam" is being referred to in the above quote from a most respected authority, the prophet Muhammad himself. If we take his word as prophecy I'd say he was right on target with how fractured and disunited your "real Islam" is. Murdering eachother, blowing up eachothers mosques, and supporting the Great Satan against one another. This is why Mahdi has come to Guide a deviated “real Islam” as you call it.
@kenupe1911 Real Islam is a religion of peace, and loving, it's about respecting your fellow, whatever his religion was, it's about doing good, and helping others, it's about being a good person.
Islam does not tell you to kill, nor to harm anyone despite their religion or their color. For me that's real Islam.
I BELIEVE MALCOLM X WOULD HAD CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY IF HE WAS STILL ALIVE...SEE HOW HIS HEART WAS SEEKING THE TRUTH AND THE HIS OWN MUSLIMS TRY TO SHUT HIM UP
@yixxt Hey, calm down. The nation of Islam is not all like this, don't judge a group from actions that some of their members did. You are an American for gods sake, how would you feel if the rest of the world would blame you for all of the horrible things that some Americans have done? I'm christian and I love muslims and all of the other ethnic groups out there.
@Hemosima He was muslim, well he became muslim when he joined NOI but after some incidents, and things he discovered about Elijah Muhammed he left NOI, and then he went to the pelerinage, and discovered the truth about Islam, and realised that NOI is a racist and corrupted group. After that he embraced the real Islam and got killed in front of his wife and kids.
i dont understand how other whites got so upset with all this. i mean i know its the fear of having to compete with blacks in society but he doesnt attack others or ask for unreasonable demands, he simply demands the same treatmeant for whites under the constitution be given to blacks and if those demands wont be met then they will look inward and begin there own society. i thinks hes brilliant, blacks shouldve been done waiting for whites to open there eyes long ago but it took 50 years
Malcolm's house was bombed one week before his death. It was only days after Malcolm made this speech that he was murdered. He was a brilliant man and I'm sure he knew that speaking against Elijah Muhammad and the NOI that they would kill him. But his passion was speaking the truth even if it killed him.
here's the formula: 1) the nation of islam (what nation? they have none) 2) elijah mohammad the IMPOSTOR 3) "allah in the person of fard" ridiculous dogma 4) farrakhan the big mouth, living like an aristocrat.
@afterray ....I present to all.....Afterray ! ...1400 years ago..
"Muhammad Ibn Abdullah......What Messenger of Allah"? ....Some crazy man hearing voices in a cave! Ummah ...CALIPHATE..Please...these poor raggedy camel jockies aint got a single rupee!
Oh!.... an angel name Gabriel spoke to him? Yeah right...and I'm gettin my wings fly up to heaven too. Gabriel is a fake poisoning the mind of this crazy cave man........moral of story...Opponents of Allah have not changed their stripes at all.
@ThePstar19 i rather appreciate the theological philosophies of the pentateuch / gospels / quran THEN : " the makers [ blackman ] of the universe." -- elijah.m p.49 message to the blackman in america.
i respect more an elephant with wings or a horse that can define infinity THEN elijah .m / NOI / farrakhan.
@afterray ......If you would like to be respected as credible at all in any discussion on these subjects then don't lie about what is on page 49 of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's monumental book, " Message To The Black Man in America". There is nothing remotely similar to what you attribute to being there on page 49...These are days when Satan will be defeated. You can no longer just throw out anything and expect it to be accepted without the TRUTH coming behind you to correct your lies.
@ThePstar19 1st of all, i have no reason to "lie". i've read (MORE IMPORTANTLY, i have reading comprehension, which many lack) p.49 ( WE MUST TEACH OUR OWN) "message to the black man in america" i can't help but to disprove "me [elijah.m] and our nation as being the first people and the makers of the universe". NOW, before u cream out fire!, u should see were i'm coming from (it's simple). NO. i'm not playing around with this book (come on now). i'm dressing it's illogicality....
@afterray Lets use the actual facts rather than your "dressing its illogicality" as you say. Many ancients knew the world was round, a concept that centuries later was "illogical" to the believers in a flat planet. Your interpretation of the meaning of the Quran and Bible are just that...interpretations. Allah gives the Rule of interpretation sura3:7. Yet having His Instruction has not prevented deviations and fracturing of what you would call"real Islam" or "orthodox" Islam.
@ThePstar19 "facts". come on now. that verse reads "send down the book". many / tons of IDIOTS will think that the book (quran) was literally send down.
a person with a brain will ask : who was the one that send down this volume?
**a IDIOT will ask : did this book come down from the moon by a man?**
3:2 "allah... self - sustaining" CRUSHES the ridiculous NOIs dogma : "allah in the person of fard"
2nd grade Q: how can a body / brain be self - sustaining? ( lets be real )
@ThePstar19 "allah will bring about a new islam. as for the principles of belief, they remain the same." p.49-50 mttbmia. how ridiculous is this quote (don't get mad yet. HEAR me out) "new islam". on what revisions and "new" theological views? ALSO. the "principles" (in the creed of the first pillar (tawheed)) of the orthodox and the NOIs is ABSOLUTELY not the "same". "allah in the person of fard" is UN- quranic / UN- pentateuch and nonsense. the quran slams the NOIs dogma....
@ThePstar19 as u noted: "You can no longer just throw out anything and expect it to be accepted without the TRUTH coming behind you to correct your lies." come on now. i research and think it through before i express my views.i don't believe in thumb sucking a concept just because it glorifies my race or pumps up my people in the name of a weak / poor / pretty dogma.
i respect unity that sees no skin color. i detest ANY movement that teaches racism (NOI / KKK. both THINK of skin color)..
@afterray Most of what you write is based in the height of, at best, denial, but more a type of spiritual blindness. Your arrogance might be amusing were it not so disrespectful. If you would raise your language above your arrogance I will dialogue with you and all who may read here over that which you have a problem with. Stop the name calling and disrespect. Your research and "thinking a thing through" don't necessarily add a single grain of weight to your imaginations
@1666cinnamon cool, but they dont reprezent us, the nation of islam are a bunch of paganized idiots. They apparently even had the audacity to write their own "Qur'an", texts,whatever. They are a racist, black supremacist, nationalistic movement. They believe that the negroids are god, and that they genetically engineered the caucasians. THEY DO NOT REPREZENT ISLAM, THEY ARE IN THE SAME BOAT AS CRAZY FANATICS!
@smoothness1000 That was their mindset. They didn't give a shit. Just like the current Islamic terrorist movement who's killed and maimed many innocent women and children.
@tributevocalist who are you to call anyone terrorist maybe they have been attacked themself so they attack back nation of islam atack their own people and tried to kill malcolm x just for converting to islam exactly like america doing nowdays they hating on muslims just like noi did.
weirdeyez...Aint it the truth. the U S govt murdered countless innocents around the globe. C I A assinations of leaders, meddling and destabilizing, basically destroying peace of nations. The big bully with nukes to threaten and intimidate nations. Nuclear submarines 5th and 6th fleet menacing the middle east waters and coastlines. Military bases and secret wars all over the planet. That same government hated Malcolmx and then act as if the NOI had that kind of resource against Malcolm. please
I gotta get up from this computer and get some other things done. I know the devil is watching these discussions to see how well his decptions are remaining. I know the devil is posting in order to continue disruptions of truth and establish falsehood and confusion.....Oh well
It is now known that government and law enforcement agencies planted infiltrators in the OAAU, NOI and almost all of the other civil rights movement organizations. Some of these agent/informers were highly placed. Their assignments were not only to report on all of their activities, plans and members, but to create disruption, distrust and to frighten any supporters.
Carl Evans book..."The Judas factor...Alex Haley's Autobiography of Malcolmx...there are many writings that could easily unseat your close mindedness....by the way your use of the word "prick" below is very telling....so my comments are for the sincere inquirers.
In his autobiography, co-authored by Alex Haley, Malcolm made this remark about the attempts upon his life, the more I keep thinking about this thing, the things that have been happening lately, Im not all that sure its the Muslims, I know what they can do, and what they cant, and they cant do some of the stuff recently going on. Now, Im going to tell you, the more I keep thinking about what happened to me in France, I think Im going to quit saying its the Muslims.
So Malcolm clearly did not know who was who that he allowed to swarm around him. Clearly he was a target of the U S gov't. You would not disagree. So was Martin King. If you do not scale and quantify the depth of satan's (u s gov't) efforts to destroy black leadership. If you cannot spell out exactly the part they had to play and their exact means and efforts, their plots and plans backed by unlimited bank roll to buy assasins, buy mens very souls, then your view is held subject to satan.
there are yet sealed documents that many are trying to get the government to release. so there is a proper context to place the above video. Malcolm x did not know everything. Who does. If he did maybe he could have prevented his own death. If he didn't know there were those there right in front of him with sawed off shot guns aiming to take his life, what else did he not know? How then should we qualify his statements of what he thinks is truth?
cont'd..who according to the Quran and bible, are always present among the righteous having links to the devil. I'm under no pretense that I can change your strongly held views, which I believe are exactly what satans dirty tricks had in mind... to to create a false and cloudy history. But Allah has permitted these things for His purposes. John kennedy, Martin luther king, and malcolm x all during a time of great satanic (u s government) activity. All yet unclear and divisive by design today
Peasah2005/afterray....So I guess you have inside information that is superior to the transcripts obtained through the FOI...(freedom of information act) pertaining to cointelpro operations and procedures of DIRTY tricks used against most all black organizations to turn them against eachother. Even if it were "so called" members of NOI (Nation of Islam) who bombed malcolm's house, there are those who match your description of "filthy diseased black rats" (hypocrites and paid agents)
members of the nation of islam tried to burn malcolm's children while they sleep.(worse then filthy / diseased RATS) why? because he trashed the teachings of the their founder. (elijah mohammed)
malcolm was intelligent and a fantastic speaker. to make sure that he couldn't unmask the tenet of the nation of islam and their impostor, (elijah mohammed) malcolm and his loving family was being constantly threatened by the filthy / diseased black RATS. (N.O.I.)
peasah2005...Please tell us why the nation of Islam members and believers all across America are "ignorant assholes in the making" as you say and how they treated malcolm in a nasty way? Please explain
Pilaf1984......." Non retaliatory way" So Bush invaded Iraq to "retaliiate" against AfGhanistan and saudi arabia? Please do not say "Al quida" they were not there in Iraq. Osama Bin Laden And sadaam Hussein were not connected whatsoever. It was a war of agression.
How can someone blame a whole group of people or religious group of people for something happing to an individual.That is what is going on today, people are blaming ALL MUSLIMS for what happened 9-11-01. I feel for the loved ones who lost a loved ones in this grievous tradegy.I also feel that the US government is to blame because I think they knew about these plans and probably didnt take them serious due to this being theMOST POWERFUL NATION in the WORLD!!
@weirdeyez It's not the followers but what they follow. Don't adhere to any system which preaches to you to kill your fellow man in a non retaliatory way.
@Pilaf1984 The NOI doesnt preach hatred or kill a human being just because they want to.So what do you say about the PRESIDENT who is responsible for several human beings being killed across the WATER?? The USA is responsible for programming people to KILL and then when there term is over they just put those same people back in to society without deprogramming them from the KILL and ask questions later.The most hororable elijah muhammad told all the believers dont harm brother malcolm.
Malcolm's own organization had government agents, so it's not a far stretch to thing that they were involved in his house being firebombed. I look at the movie Malcolm X, and the assassination scene, notice how when the commotion started the men standing post near Malcolm scattered. That's totally against security protocol, always stand near the man/woman you're protecting, especially during chaos. So all of this Nation of Islam did this and that is smoke and mirrors, his own group set him up
So let's just level the playing field. From Jesus and Judas to the murder of popes by popes, to martyrdom of Ali and the civil war that erupted in early islam within 24 hrs of muhammad's (pbuh) death over who would lead the nation 1400 years ago. Even he(muhammad pbuh) said "three generations after me this will not be of me". So I hope my point is made that none of these things determine whethjer or not a man or a movement is Divine. The Question becomes...what does? that is where we need to be
we are looking at? All this nastiness we are looking at ain't nothin new in the light of scripture and we must go to a much deeper kind of conversation beyond nthe dullness of our ability to distinguish the difference between a movement instituted by God and that set out by men. In many ways they look the same. Death is death. treachery is treachery. Every ugly negative human spirit surrounded and infiltrated the divine movements of the scripture. Envy, jealousy, hypocracy, murder, you name it.
Is the capture and slavery of black people in the book? Are you in the book? Am I in the book? Is the assination of kennedy, martin, bobby kennedy or malcolm in the book? If so where? How much of all this is in the book (bible)? Malcolms attack on his teacher or Wallace muhammad's attack is not new in the light of scripture. Niether is their respective fates. None of us are experts as such because few of us were there. If we were there how well did we understand? How well do we understand what
Every divine movement you read of in scripture had a hard way to go. There were zealots among them. There were hypocrites, spys, betrayers, killing and bloodshed. That is just the plain facts. Most of the killing would trace its root to the power structure that felt threatened by new movement being instituted by God through a man from the downtrodden. If the scriptures have any value they are to show us these things. Is America in the book? Is reagan or bush or obama in the book? How will it end
When absalom turned against his father david in scripture or a son of Noah turned away from his father or when saul turned against David or many other examples of treachery in the lives of divine servants of God, these examples from the scriptures are so we can see what to expect in the lives of divine servants today. Ain't nothin changed in that way.Many of those commenting here would have followed absalom, saul, and or korah when he lead 250 men and turned against Moses and Aaron.
@rodger040674 no it dosnt say hes a sell out that is just morality and speaks for itself he said earlyer that he had no intention of stating thosed facts but the fact that they asked about the death threats lead him to those words,
HERE IS THE ANSWER, for those who do not know, malcolm was attacked by the black muslim movement because at first the wasnt teaching the real religioun of Islam, they were just racist, so after Malcom found that up, he went astray and started teaching the real religioun of Islam which has gone against the American Nation of Islam. So that is why the were attacking him. He is not a racist and he died for good. RIP
Muhammad left instructions about the order The Qu'ran should be compiled. Wait, if it wasn't written then how could he have written instructions about how to compile it? Ok. Uthman therefore followed these instructions...
@Shyne85 If you are going to ignore the verses which say don't follow anything besides the Qu'ran, a clear explanation for everything, than I don't have much more else to say. It makes no difference to me if you or other correct muslim scholars say The God changed his mind or cancelled His words, the Qu'ran even says nothing can change His words. And once again nasikah does not mean abrogate, and aya means miracle, not verse. I have nothing else to add. Unto you your deeds, unto me mine.
@Shyne85, What was written? the koran? if the koran was written and clear during muhummads lifetime why were other copies burn't, there were several different korans. It was ulthman not muhummad or allah that decided what went into the koran.
@360Truthman There are several bibles as well. Even ones before the old testament. Check out the Thyadale's(sp?) bible. In my opinion All holy books were written by man.
to 360truthman, it confirms scriptures like yours which give 4 different accounts of Jesus baptism, different accounts of his last words, and different accounts of how he was born. Why is it that Paul, someone who was not even a disciple, who never met Jesus, and was actually reviled and labelled a false teacher by both Peter and James had such a strong influence over Christianity?
Peace!! Who could not hold the highest reverence for this man except those who are threatened by his SOMETHING they know they cannot and will never achieve!!!! Peace
fuck the nation of ignorance islam.. anf cuk illaya.. and his fake religion.. i hope the black ppl who in that religion wil wake up and se the true islam..
no UFKC UOY .......REAL MY ASS, WE KICK ''REAL ISLAM ''asses all the time i'm ever in the street and you don't say shit, INTERNET MUSLIM, all praises due to the key board.......Saudi Arabia give the NOI, qurans in the 50s and 60s, even if they didn't point is, who the UKFC are you,teach your women to read first ...
the nation of islam made up the illuminati conspiracies, to explain away the assassination of Malcom X, and also create a paranoia in the black community, to keep them afraid of the white man. they are the real threat to black america.
It seems that a lot of poeple don't get the difference between being muslim and being part of the nation of islam, the first is a religion the second is a sect. get educated
Stop lying idiots. Nation of Islam was against Malcolm and they didn't bomb Malcolm's house because they were infiltrated they bombed Malcolm's house cause they wanted to kill Malcolm. All you Black Mulims from Africa to America are spitting on our ancestor's graves. Shame shame shame
the Nation of Islam was NOT against Malcolm X they were against Elijah Muhammad he taught people hatred and everything Islam goes against but they believed him when they said that he taught them the true Islam
the honorable ELIJAH MUHAMMAD have four books and none of them, teach hate to no ONE, I dare you to quote ANY BOOK,second that time there were lynching BLACKS 100 A month,do your research and tell some truth, how many EGYPTIANS moses spoke well of,or save .........
@ballymo85 You cannot claim yourself to not be racist as long as you group people together and not recognize individualism. There are plenty of black muslims that are greatly worthy of respect
These Black Muslims are nothing but ignorant assholes in the making, because in their ungrateful attitude, they treated Malcolm in a nasty and a disgusting way.
Our ancestors will defintely be venting their disgust for the ignorant disgrace that their own sons and daughters have disgrace them in such a way.
Also, we have fools who think that coming from Africa is a curse, well I expect that from these demon racist pricks that stigmatise us.
MORALS....... what underage girls prove it gimme names it's 40 years old...if so The Hon. Elijah Muhammad
would have been arrested by authorities, where are theses young girls,who were ABUSED,.....MORALS ,malcolm ran his mouth when he was PUNISH not before, he had his own interest,he and his wife thats why after they LEFT, she never wore the head garment why didn't she follow her husband after he found ''real islam'' .KILLING MALCOLM WOULD NOT SOME THING N.O.I. WOULD DENIED .that's the truth
@mightylionzman , You should listen to the 1993 saviours day speech where farakhan when talking about malcolm says "If you attack elijah muhummad I'll kill you, yesterday today and tomorrow", he makes it very clear to me, maybe it's because I'm not deaf and can hear what's being said and not blind and can see who's saying it.
@360Truthman i did listen to 1993 Saviour's day speech,killing malcolm is not something the N.OI.,would have hide,if you do believe what goes around comes around,well the hon.ELIJAH MUHAMMAD died in his bed, and we will have to see how FARRAKHAN goes......but ALLAH allowed all of this to happen,take it up with HIM, and the guy ''who shot malcolm'' khalid islam made a documentary about malcolm,BACK by the ILLUMINATI,and he said he didn't k
Allah will judge between us. The fact remains that Elijah Muhammad dedicated his life to an ungrateful and treacherous race. He loved us so much that he took Detroit Red and made him into Malcolm X; FOR US. Then he repeated this act of love with Cassius Clay and gave us Muhammad Ali. Then he did it again with Louis Walcott and gave us Louis Farrakhan. All so we could turn around and stab him in the back. This is why Black people are at the bottom of society. This is why they call us niggers.
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The NOI's record speaks for itself. How many lives have our haters saved? How many drug addicts, alcoholics, women abusers, gang bangers, prostitutes, and pimps have they reformed? The NOI is known ALL OVER EARTH for saving lives (INCLUDING MALCOLM'S). What about our haters? How many farms, schools, and businesses have they established; EVER? These so-called Malcolm followers haven't produced ANYTHING but negativity about us. They remind me of the FBI's Counter Intelligence Program.
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the uploader " 7thJewelProductions" and his " 2nd Interview with the Hon. Elijah Muhammad - part 1" youtube video has just blocked me.
the reason for that is because i was gradually exposing that video / " the black man has no beginning" ~ elijah mohammad BENT views.
i was also gradually slamming the book, message to the black man...
7thJewelProductions hid inside his closet by blocking me off...
*** i suggest to those with a sane mind to check out my SLAMMING of the NOI flaws...
peace.
afterray 4 months ago
How did a Men like Malcolm, with all his Wisdom, could not protected at this time. i can´t understand it really. A Great Men he Was.
AzabiaMusic 5 months ago
His murder has been blamed on Whites for decades even though he states it was the NOI that was trying to kill him. The NOI is who murdered this bright young man.
Lets stop the hate among American citizens and work together to save our nation from the Evil that wants to destroy us
HollyTNUSA 5 months ago
@HollyTNUSA Who blamed the whites? I've never heard that. He knew himself that he was being targeted by the NOI.
yodasdad64 5 months ago
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@HollyTNUSA Who blamed the whites? I've never heard that. He knew himself that he was being targeted by the NOI.
yodasdad64 5 months ago
These bastards are crazy! trying to kill Malcom X!
SweetCocoa69 6 months ago
May allah punish all who had envolements the court in america may not have been in session but allahs court is always in session
djkhaled55 7 months ago
Nation Of Islam in America was full more bullshit than the government itself
brainsick213 7 months ago 11
imagine if such person life this day... those white horse must be pissed all over their face..
TheOnlyCoolestGuy111 7 months ago
If your ears are closed then you can't listen.
dna2playboy 8 months ago
NOI = Black Devils
mrtundra45 8 months ago
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"We grant the Home in the Hereafter to those who do not seek superiority on earth or spread corruption: the happy ending is awarded to those who are mindful of God." Quran 28:83
2angeline 9 months ago
WOW I SEE DENZEL IN THIS SO MUCH
glory2godpd 9 months ago
Today known as the Muzzie Brotherscums!
Zalahblue 10 months ago
He developed a martyr complex. Should have taken more precautions-- seems like he just got tired and gave up. US govt was coming for him along with the Black Muslims. To act without self-preservation and additional precautions= self-sacrifice. There's a big difference between cautiousness and fear. He wasn't afraid, but he wasn't cautious either.
skeletonbite 11 months ago
How can any African have anything to do with Islam.. watch 'Africa Slave Islam' and witness 1400 years of african slavery which continues till today.. Discover how africans are even today taken and made into slaves 'modern slave islam'.. Discover how african male slaves are castrated so they are not as aggressive and cannot have sex with female slaves they guard. Muslim traders sold slaves into Europe. The Arabic word for African is 'Abeed' which also means Slave of a Slave
TheJoeB1Kanobe 11 months ago
Damn I get chills everytime I hear brother Malcom X speak. I am sure to tell my kids one day of the great black leaders like him who stood for what was right and feared NO ONE! RIP Malcom X
dafranchise0309 11 months ago
which one of you muslim leaders are going to bring to trial this elijah for these crimes or are you going to turn you head? we are waiting. don't say Allah if you cant face the truth. Allah demands truth
GoddaCreate 11 months ago
The enemy uses every race,nationality,gender, status in society to hurt God's ppl, the worst thing we can do is label our enemy as one particular sect of ppl....the enemy is everywhere!!
chrissypoo1983 1 year ago
If the body was made in stages, how was each part "sustained" until all other parts were complete? Suppose He made brain first. Was it held in a cosmic soup awaiting the other parts? Please answer?
ThePstar19 1 year ago
A body /brain is self sustaining by the Power of Allah. He gives us that. Do you eat? Drink water? It is your choice what to eat drink etc. When Allah first created our bodies, what part did He create first? How long did it take and did any part at any time exist as an incomplete step along the way until all other parts and systems of the body were complete? Or do you think He waved a magic wand and “poofed” the body into being all at once.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
P.S. It may be you think the white man was an angel for his causing the death of 50 to 150 million of my people during the middle passage from Afrika to America and his overall treatment of us.(black people) I agree with Mr. Muhammad. Devil. Definitely not the work of an angel. Do you perhaps believe in that cloven foot pitchfork weilding creature that resides deep in the bowels of the earth? I thank mr. Muhammad for helping our people out of that slavery teaching
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 .. what are you talking about? It was Islam that have been trading and are STILL Trading SLAVES IN AFRICA.. watch on youtube 'africa slave Islam' then watch 'modern slave africa' .. see how your muslim slave masters castrated blacks so that they did not even breed! Europe was sold slaves by Islamic traders.. Europe totally banned slavery 200 years ago.. But Islam still has slavery because the Qaran says you can take slaves. Qaran means SLAVERY IS FOREVER = ISLAM
TheJoeB1Kanobe 11 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe yeah man. that is still going on till this day. as a muslim i am disgraced. but the thing is in islam, if you go against the five pillars of islam, you are not considered muslim.
dibosh80 10 months ago
@dibosh80 .. The past we can not change.. BUT It breaks my Heart that it is still happening! These stories must be told and the truth must shine.. we owe it to our kids and future generations.. Brings tear to my eyes to hear the stories of people that have escaped slavery. how they are branded, treated like animals.. Made to convert to Islam and pray.. Qaran is suppose to be forever which makes Slavery for ever.. THEY KILLED MALCOLM AND FOR WHAT? Sorry.. Islam is more important than God
TheJoeB1Kanobe 10 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe one thing. who is "they"? (THEY KILLED MALCOLM AND FOR WHAT?)
dibosh80 10 months ago
@dibosh80 .. As I am sure you know - Apostates - those that leave Islam can be killed according to Islam.. do you think the Muslim Brother Hood would let Malcolm leave Islam.. NO THEY DID NOT.. .. Watch what happens in 'London Apostate Violence' .. watch how people are treated when they try leave Islam..
TheJoeB1Kanobe 10 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe i dont think 'those that leave Islam can be killed...' is correct, but malcolm still remained a muslim for the rest of his life. the reason why he left the nation is because he did not agree with some of its preachings. the nation preached hate towards whites whereas, true islam teaches peace towards humanity. when malcolm went to mecca, he saw white muslims, black muslims, asian muslim etc, when malcolm saw this he wanted to leave the nation.
dibosh80 10 months ago
@dibosh80 .. you should learn your qaran! There is a number of passages in the Qaran that order the death of those that try to leave islam! in a number of islamic countries there is a death penalty for leaving islam! You really should do some of your own research! Malcolm was killed because he wanted to leave islam.. He was not a muslim when he was killed.. get your facts right
TheJoeB1Kanobe 10 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe what the fuck? get your facts right. islam and the nation of islam are not the same thing! ive told you the differenece between them in previous comments. he wanted to leave the nation of islam not islam. he says the muslim greeting before he dies (/watch?v=7MMyN3v8UJY) by the way have you read passages from a quaran or the internet?
dibosh80 10 months ago
@dibosh80 lookup 'africa slave Islam' and witness that an estimate of 30% of African slaves are muslim.. Check out that the word 'Abeed' used for a Black african also means 'slave of a slave'.. An esitimate of 100 million africans have died as slaves under islam.. Men are castrated to keep them calm and so they can not have sex with the women they are made to guard! wow what a wonderful religion!
TheJoeB1Kanobe 10 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe read the quaran first (from the book, not from the internet) then see these people in africa are wrong.
dibosh80 10 months ago 5
@dibosh80 .. You sir should get out and read some other texts.. why would i follow a Book that makes my brother a Slave! have you watched 'africa Islam slave' .. or 'Modern Islam slave' ! Have you! you put this stupid text above the lives of 100 million africans that have died as slave in Islam! DO YOU SEE HOW MANY DIE DUE TO ISLAM EVERY DAY! .. Sorry There is a much Better future for the world. ISLAM = SLAVERY FOREVER
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe honestly, what the hell is wrong with you? you dont know anything about islam do you? in islam we dont follow videos from youtube which are made from self righteous idiots, we follow rules from the quran. get your head checked, the quran mentions a lot more things then slavery. if you dont bother reading a true quran (directly from the book!) you can never justify yourself, other than "look up africa slave Islam"
dibosh80 9 months ago
@dibosh80 what is wrong with you brother.. You follow a cult that tells you to either kill or make people slaves in the name of God? Are you serious! you are the person with a serious mental issue.. then you make a person called mohammad who kills hundreds of unarmed people a prophet? are you serious! where do you see this taking the world! and what if we do not agree with you then kill us.. wake up
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe @TheJoeB1Kanobe before you start making things up from thin air ("kill or make people slaves in the name of God, mohammad who kills hundreds of unarmed people a prophet" etc), read the quran first. im guessing you got this nonsense from the internet? if you dont want to read the quran, thats fine. just dont go around believing things from the internet.
dibosh80 9 months ago
@dibosh80 .. lets seee which bit of the qaran am i missing?
Quran 8:12 Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the believers(Muslims), I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, cut you above their necks and cut all their finger tips off of them (unbelievers).”
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe as i said read the quran first. this passage is misinterpreted by many non muslims. this verse is aimed at a period of war (Battle of Badr) which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. The pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years. The muslim army had only 300.
dibosh80 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe God Almighty gave the order to Muslims to defend their lives and faith. The enemy came to them with the intent to kill Muslims.
dibosh80 9 months ago
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@dibosh80 Kill them if they do not join! Quran 9:5 says,
But when the forbidden months (i.e., 4-month grace-period given in verse 9:2) are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@dibosh80 .. Maybe you should read your Qaran.. and check out what Islam has done to the African nation.. watch 'Africa Slave Islam" or "Modern Islam Slave" .. hwo can you think that any of this is for God!! Islam spits on God's creation.. wipe your hands of Blood that Islam suck today and from its bloody past
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe the 'muslims' in africa are misinterpreting the quran. 'islam spits on gods creation'? we offer peace to all humanity. thats why it is compulsory to greet with 'peace upon you'. you clearly havn't done your research. just try to make us look bad.
dibosh80 9 months ago
@dibosh80 you make all these claims about Islam offering peace, but how come nobody ever quotes them.. Maybe because they do not exist.. Islam is a Eye for an Eye and whatever your right hand can possess.. Are you not ashamed of this?
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe 'maybe because they do not exist' how much of an idiot are you. you just quoted from the quran which is full of peace offerings, now you say 'they dont exist'. i proved you wrong in two cases and you still continue to push it. and what do you mean by 'Islam is a Eye for an Eye and whatever your right hand can possess'?
dibosh80 9 months ago
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@dibosh80 . "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?"
Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. A second likewise is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."
Matthew 22:34-40
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe why did you quote this? i never accused the bible. i know the bible offers peace.
dibosh80 9 months ago
@dibosh80 Righteousness is to give wealth and charity for the freeing of slaves (Quran 2:177, 9:60, 90:12-18)
TheJoeB1Kanobe is well aware of this but chooses bigotry over peace.
"And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive not." 2:11-12
Peace.
2angeline 9 months ago
@2angeline yeah i also believe that TheJoeB1Kanobe is well aware, he continues to defend himself with pointless arguements because he doesnt want to be proven woring.
dibosh80 9 months ago
@2angeline .. wow.. how wonderful Charity in Islam is setting a SLAVE FREE? .. AND WHAT ABOUT ISLAM MAKING PEOPLE SLAVES IN THE FIRST PLACE!.. .. Hey EVERYONE CHECK THIS OUT.. muzzie Girl here thinks she is so kind cause after they kill your nonBelieving arse, and take you wife, children as slaves, they may let them GO! wow now that is charity people! except for the poor black africans that are treated as sub Human.. BAN ISLAM
TheJoeB1Kanobe 9 months ago
@TheJoeB1Kanobe also, malcolm found out about elijah muhammads relationships which made him leave even more. after he revealed this information to the public, elijah muhammad ordered people from the nation to assassinate malcolm x. {thats history for ya ;) }
dibosh80 10 months ago
Then your push button analysis and shallow thinking is clearly exposed. Your inability to make comparisons. Unitarian.....you say. You ought to consider you are representing Unitarians. May be a disclaimer is in order. By the way there is much weak minds do not understand. Again more worthless banter raised as what? clever? intellect? ....foolishness!
ThePstar19 1 year ago
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ThePstar19 1 year ago
...your arrogance is off the charts. You seem unable to communicate without the shrill inflated tones that attempt to mask an undisciplined mind bound in the shackles of worthless rhetoric and shallow thinking. What a cheap lie to conflate The Nation with the kkk/nazi. No member of the Nation has ever committed any such acts upon another race as lynching, burning at the stake, rape, and all the other crimes of the kkk/nazi. Now if you make that stretch because we call the white man devil…
ThePstar19 1 year ago
Your racism is clear. How dare Elijah Muhammad introduce something that has not been vetted by your master satan who deviated Islam, the message of Moses and Jesus. Now Allah Himself must conform to your "great understanding" that He cannot Make Islam New. Allah has run out of Ability to advance and Renew Islam. Your biggest problem is that it comes through a black man. Allah does as He pleases. He chooses whom He pleases. Afterray demands "revisions" and " new" theological views
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 as you noted : "Your racism is clear." you need to take your head out of the sand and see / smell that your idol (elijah mohammad) is not different (IN THINKING) like the KKK (yeah. you want talk about racism. please)
i respect all people. but when an organization (NOI / KKK / NAZI) tries to justify its creed, my only response is vomit on their races. the NOI tries to twist scripture to fit its POOR views...sorry dude, not everyone under the sun is a thumb sucker...come again.
afterray 1 year ago
Your "comprehension" is no stand in for having the correct interpretation of Bible and Quran. It is fine that the words in Message to the Black Man do not suit you. The name of the book is Message to the Black Man in america. A message specifically for Black people and the peculiarities of our condition and experience here. You have a problem with that. It is your racist attitude to that reduces you to a heckler or more a court jester in satan's behalf, the father of your racism.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 come on now. you can't point the finger about "correct interpretation of Bible and Quran". your IDOL (elijah.m ) and his dogma : "allah in the person of fard" is parallel to the off track concept of the christ in a god. many idiots misinterpreted certain verses (gospels) and attributed to the christ.
it's funny how your idol used the bible / quran to support his ridiculous views (as we know. many poor minds licked his ways).
i support any movement that's against oppression.
afterray 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 i respect any organization that's against the oppressor. however, when that organization starts to blame an isolated race, i'll step back and look up the word racism. the NOI / KKK (in their THINKING) are both disgusting. i know that YOU are bothered by my views. i must also keep in mind that many of weak minds will not understand the philosophy of Unitarianism.
afterray 1 year ago
As far as your characterizations of the content Bible and Quran as "theological philosophies" ....clear disrespect of the Truth contained in both books. Perhaps you see yourself as somehow superior to the Word of God contained in both.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
do you have this whole speech
brollicon 1 year ago
...."Three generations after me, this (Islam) will not be of me". So called "real Islam" is being referred to in the above quote from a most respected authority, the prophet Muhammad himself. If we take his word as prophecy I'd say he was right on target with how fractured and disunited your "real Islam" is. Murdering eachother, blowing up eachothers mosques, and supporting the Great Satan against one another. This is why Mahdi has come to Guide a deviated “real Islam” as you call it.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@kenupe1911 Real Islam is a religion of peace, and loving, it's about respecting your fellow, whatever his religion was, it's about doing good, and helping others, it's about being a good person.
Islam does not tell you to kill, nor to harm anyone despite their religion or their color. For me that's real Islam.
darkqueen12 1 year ago
theyre terrorist and user islame for excuse to kill sombody theyre not muslims then.
The muslims have no right to kill sombody or touch sombody only if they get attacked.
Thats called self defence!
basiic1 1 year ago
I BELIEVE MALCOLM X WOULD HAD CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY IF HE WAS STILL ALIVE...SEE HOW HIS HEART WAS SEEKING THE TRUTH AND THE HIS OWN MUSLIMS TRY TO SHUT HIM UP
carameloxx 1 year ago
@carameloxx lol ur retarded Ignorant .. malcolm knew the real islam when he got to mecca before he got killed
TxxxHxxxD 1 year ago
@TxxxHxxxD LOL..MALCOM X SEEKED THE TRUTH...DINT LIKE LIES..NOR HIPOCRISY......LEARN FROM EX MUSLIMS
carameloxx 1 year ago
@carameloxx lool FIRST know how to Spell kid .. then try to act like smart
TxxxHxxxD 1 year ago
@TxxxHxxxD facts that are not produce by me but by HISTORY ITS SELF
carameloxx 1 year ago
@yixxt Hey, calm down. The nation of Islam is not all like this, don't judge a group from actions that some of their members did. You are an American for gods sake, how would you feel if the rest of the world would blame you for all of the horrible things that some Americans have done? I'm christian and I love muslims and all of the other ethnic groups out there.
gasbaroni 1 year ago
was he muslim was he christian ?
i dont understand
Hemosima 1 year ago
@Hemosima He was muslim, well he became muslim when he joined NOI but after some incidents, and things he discovered about Elijah Muhammed he left NOI, and then he went to the pelerinage, and discovered the truth about Islam, and realised that NOI is a racist and corrupted group. After that he embraced the real Islam and got killed in front of his wife and kids.
darkqueen12 1 year ago
i dont understand how other whites got so upset with all this. i mean i know its the fear of having to compete with blacks in society but he doesnt attack others or ask for unreasonable demands, he simply demands the same treatmeant for whites under the constitution be given to blacks and if those demands wont be met then they will look inward and begin there own society. i thinks hes brilliant, blacks shouldve been done waiting for whites to open there eyes long ago but it took 50 years
bobmoore20 1 year ago
Malcolm's house was bombed one week before his death. It was only days after Malcolm made this speech that he was murdered. He was a brilliant man and I'm sure he knew that speaking against Elijah Muhammad and the NOI that they would kill him. But his passion was speaking the truth even if it killed him.
tommiexander 1 year ago
malcolm x rip
here's the formula: 1) the nation of islam (what nation? they have none) 2) elijah mohammad the IMPOSTOR 3) "allah in the person of fard" ridiculous dogma 4) farrakhan the big mouth, living like an aristocrat.
afterray 1 year ago
@afterray ....I present to all.....Afterray ! ...1400 years ago..
"Muhammad Ibn Abdullah......What Messenger of Allah"? ....Some crazy man hearing voices in a cave! Ummah ...CALIPHATE..Please...these poor raggedy camel jockies aint got a single rupee!
Oh!.... an angel name Gabriel spoke to him? Yeah right...and I'm gettin my wings fly up to heaven too. Gabriel is a fake poisoning the mind of this crazy cave man........moral of story...Opponents of Allah have not changed their stripes at all.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 i rather appreciate the theological philosophies of the pentateuch / gospels / quran THEN : " the makers [ blackman ] of the universe." -- elijah.m p.49 message to the blackman in america.
i respect more an elephant with wings or a horse that can define infinity THEN elijah .m / NOI / farrakhan.
afterray 1 year ago
@afterray ......If you would like to be respected as credible at all in any discussion on these subjects then don't lie about what is on page 49 of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's monumental book, " Message To The Black Man in America". There is nothing remotely similar to what you attribute to being there on page 49...These are days when Satan will be defeated. You can no longer just throw out anything and expect it to be accepted without the TRUTH coming behind you to correct your lies.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 1st of all, i have no reason to "lie". i've read (MORE IMPORTANTLY, i have reading comprehension, which many lack) p.49 ( WE MUST TEACH OUR OWN) "message to the black man in america" i can't help but to disprove "me [elijah.m] and our nation as being the first people and the makers of the universe". NOW, before u cream out fire!, u should see were i'm coming from (it's simple). NO. i'm not playing around with this book (come on now). i'm dressing it's illogicality....
afterray 1 year ago
@afterray Lets use the actual facts rather than your "dressing its illogicality" as you say. Many ancients knew the world was round, a concept that centuries later was "illogical" to the believers in a flat planet. Your interpretation of the meaning of the Quran and Bible are just that...interpretations. Allah gives the Rule of interpretation sura3:7. Yet having His Instruction has not prevented deviations and fracturing of what you would call"real Islam" or "orthodox" Islam.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 "facts". come on now. that verse reads "send down the book". many / tons of IDIOTS will think that the book (quran) was literally send down.
a person with a brain will ask : who was the one that send down this volume?
**a IDIOT will ask : did this book come down from the moon by a man?**
3:2 "allah... self - sustaining" CRUSHES the ridiculous NOIs dogma : "allah in the person of fard"
2nd grade Q: how can a body / brain be self - sustaining? ( lets be real )
afterray 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 "allah will bring about a new islam. as for the principles of belief, they remain the same." p.49-50 mttbmia. how ridiculous is this quote (don't get mad yet. HEAR me out) "new islam". on what revisions and "new" theological views? ALSO. the "principles" (in the creed of the first pillar (tawheed)) of the orthodox and the NOIs is ABSOLUTELY not the "same". "allah in the person of fard" is UN- quranic / UN- pentateuch and nonsense. the quran slams the NOIs dogma....
afterray 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 as u noted: "You can no longer just throw out anything and expect it to be accepted without the TRUTH coming behind you to correct your lies." come on now. i research and think it through before i express my views.i don't believe in thumb sucking a concept just because it glorifies my race or pumps up my people in the name of a weak / poor / pretty dogma.
i respect unity that sees no skin color. i detest ANY movement that teaches racism (NOI / KKK. both THINK of skin color)..
afterray 1 year ago
@afterray Most of what you write is based in the height of, at best, denial, but more a type of spiritual blindness. Your arrogance might be amusing were it not so disrespectful. If you would raise your language above your arrogance I will dialogue with you and all who may read here over that which you have a problem with. Stop the name calling and disrespect. Your research and "thinking a thing through" don't necessarily add a single grain of weight to your imaginations
ThePstar19 1 year ago
@ThePstar19 i know that my views are "disrespectful" ONLY to the lopsided minds.
afterray 1 year ago
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batanso 1 year ago
that is not a religion I would remotely welcome in my heart, smh
1666cinnamon 1 year ago
@1666cinnamon cool, but they dont reprezent us, the nation of islam are a bunch of paganized idiots. They apparently even had the audacity to write their own "Qur'an", texts,whatever. They are a racist, black supremacist, nationalistic movement. They believe that the negroids are god, and that they genetically engineered the caucasians. THEY DO NOT REPREZENT ISLAM, THEY ARE IN THE SAME BOAT AS CRAZY FANATICS!
wretchedyo 1 year ago
Damn atempting to kill Malcolm is one thing, but killing innocent women and children is completely messed up
smoothness1000 1 year ago 20
@smoothness1000 But MalcomX is an innocent man...
ReunitePeace777 8 months ago
@smoothness1000 That was their mindset. They didn't give a shit. Just like the current Islamic terrorist movement who's killed and maimed many innocent women and children.
tributevocalist 6 months ago
@tributevocalist who are you to call anyone terrorist maybe they have been attacked themself so they attack back nation of islam atack their own people and tried to kill malcolm x just for converting to islam exactly like america doing nowdays they hating on muslims just like noi did.
zbvvc 5 months ago
@tributevocalist Don't talk about things you have no knowledge of. The NOI are not real Muslims.
yodasdad64 5 months ago 2
The fact that those bombs could have fallen on his daughters...
Pisses me off.
HelloThar9 1 year ago
weirdeyez...Aint it the truth. the U S govt murdered countless innocents around the globe. C I A assinations of leaders, meddling and destabilizing, basically destroying peace of nations. The big bully with nukes to threaten and intimidate nations. Nuclear submarines 5th and 6th fleet menacing the middle east waters and coastlines. Military bases and secret wars all over the planet. That same government hated Malcolmx and then act as if the NOI had that kind of resource against Malcolm. please
ThePstar19 1 year ago
I gotta get up from this computer and get some other things done. I know the devil is watching these discussions to see how well his decptions are remaining. I know the devil is posting in order to continue disruptions of truth and establish falsehood and confusion.....Oh well
ThePstar19 1 year ago 16
@ThePstar19 omg I feel the same way
sweetnurnot10 1 year ago
It is now known that government and law enforcement agencies planted infiltrators in the OAAU, NOI and almost all of the other civil rights movement organizations. Some of these agent/informers were highly placed. Their assignments were not only to report on all of their activities, plans and members, but to create disruption, distrust and to frighten any supporters.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
Carl Evans book..."The Judas factor...Alex Haley's Autobiography of Malcolmx...there are many writings that could easily unseat your close mindedness....by the way your use of the word "prick" below is very telling....so my comments are for the sincere inquirers.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
In his autobiography, co-authored by Alex Haley, Malcolm made this remark about the attempts upon his life, the more I keep thinking about this thing, the things that have been happening lately, Im not all that sure its the Muslims, I know what they can do, and what they cant, and they cant do some of the stuff recently going on. Now, Im going to tell you, the more I keep thinking about what happened to me in France, I think Im going to quit saying its the Muslims.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
So Malcolm clearly did not know who was who that he allowed to swarm around him. Clearly he was a target of the U S gov't. You would not disagree. So was Martin King. If you do not scale and quantify the depth of satan's (u s gov't) efforts to destroy black leadership. If you cannot spell out exactly the part they had to play and their exact means and efforts, their plots and plans backed by unlimited bank roll to buy assasins, buy mens very souls, then your view is held subject to satan.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
there are yet sealed documents that many are trying to get the government to release. so there is a proper context to place the above video. Malcolm x did not know everything. Who does. If he did maybe he could have prevented his own death. If he didn't know there were those there right in front of him with sawed off shot guns aiming to take his life, what else did he not know? How then should we qualify his statements of what he thinks is truth?
ThePstar19 1 year ago
cont'd..who according to the Quran and bible, are always present among the righteous having links to the devil. I'm under no pretense that I can change your strongly held views, which I believe are exactly what satans dirty tricks had in mind... to to create a false and cloudy history. But Allah has permitted these things for His purposes. John kennedy, Martin luther king, and malcolm x all during a time of great satanic (u s government) activity. All yet unclear and divisive by design today
ThePstar19 1 year ago
Peasah2005/afterray....So I guess you have inside information that is superior to the transcripts obtained through the FOI...(freedom of information act) pertaining to cointelpro operations and procedures of DIRTY tricks used against most all black organizations to turn them against eachother. Even if it were "so called" members of NOI (Nation of Islam) who bombed malcolm's house, there are those who match your description of "filthy diseased black rats" (hypocrites and paid agents)
ThePstar19 1 year ago
members of the nation of islam tried to burn malcolm's children while they sleep.(worse then filthy / diseased RATS) why? because he trashed the teachings of the their founder. (elijah mohammed)
malcolm was intelligent and a fantastic speaker. to make sure that he couldn't unmask the tenet of the nation of islam and their impostor, (elijah mohammed) malcolm and his loving family was being constantly threatened by the filthy / diseased black RATS. (N.O.I.)
malcolm x (r.i.p.) and MLK (r.i.p.)
afterray 1 year ago
peasah2005...Please tell us why the nation of Islam members and believers all across America are "ignorant assholes in the making" as you say and how they treated malcolm in a nasty way? Please explain
ThePstar19 1 year ago
if malcolm x lived longer he could've accomplished more than martin luther king or both could've gotten the civil rights movement done faster
rapingangstaz 1 year ago
Pilaf1984......." Non retaliatory way" So Bush invaded Iraq to "retaliiate" against AfGhanistan and saudi arabia? Please do not say "Al quida" they were not there in Iraq. Osama Bin Laden And sadaam Hussein were not connected whatsoever. It was a war of agression.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
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ThePstar19 1 year ago
How can someone blame a whole group of people or religious group of people for something happing to an individual.That is what is going on today, people are blaming ALL MUSLIMS for what happened 9-11-01. I feel for the loved ones who lost a loved ones in this grievous tradegy.I also feel that the US government is to blame because I think they knew about these plans and probably didnt take them serious due to this being theMOST POWERFUL NATION in the WORLD!!
weirdeyez 1 year ago
@weirdeyez It's not the followers but what they follow. Don't adhere to any system which preaches to you to kill your fellow man in a non retaliatory way.
Pilaf1984 1 year ago
@Pilaf1984 The NOI doesnt preach hatred or kill a human being just because they want to.So what do you say about the PRESIDENT who is responsible for several human beings being killed across the WATER?? The USA is responsible for programming people to KILL and then when there term is over they just put those same people back in to society without deprogramming them from the KILL and ask questions later.The most hororable elijah muhammad told all the believers dont harm brother malcolm.
weirdeyez 1 year ago
Malcolm's own organization had government agents, so it's not a far stretch to thing that they were involved in his house being firebombed. I look at the movie Malcolm X, and the assassination scene, notice how when the commotion started the men standing post near Malcolm scattered. That's totally against security protocol, always stand near the man/woman you're protecting, especially during chaos. So all of this Nation of Islam did this and that is smoke and mirrors, his own group set him up
Silly81 1 year ago
So let's just level the playing field. From Jesus and Judas to the murder of popes by popes, to martyrdom of Ali and the civil war that erupted in early islam within 24 hrs of muhammad's (pbuh) death over who would lead the nation 1400 years ago. Even he(muhammad pbuh) said "three generations after me this will not be of me". So I hope my point is made that none of these things determine whethjer or not a man or a movement is Divine. The Question becomes...what does? that is where we need to be
ThePstar19 1 year ago
we are looking at? All this nastiness we are looking at ain't nothin new in the light of scripture and we must go to a much deeper kind of conversation beyond nthe dullness of our ability to distinguish the difference between a movement instituted by God and that set out by men. In many ways they look the same. Death is death. treachery is treachery. Every ugly negative human spirit surrounded and infiltrated the divine movements of the scripture. Envy, jealousy, hypocracy, murder, you name it.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
Is the capture and slavery of black people in the book? Are you in the book? Am I in the book? Is the assination of kennedy, martin, bobby kennedy or malcolm in the book? If so where? How much of all this is in the book (bible)? Malcolms attack on his teacher or Wallace muhammad's attack is not new in the light of scripture. Niether is their respective fates. None of us are experts as such because few of us were there. If we were there how well did we understand? How well do we understand what
ThePstar19 1 year ago
Every divine movement you read of in scripture had a hard way to go. There were zealots among them. There were hypocrites, spys, betrayers, killing and bloodshed. That is just the plain facts. Most of the killing would trace its root to the power structure that felt threatened by new movement being instituted by God through a man from the downtrodden. If the scriptures have any value they are to show us these things. Is America in the book? Is reagan or bush or obama in the book? How will it end
ThePstar19 1 year ago
When absalom turned against his father david in scripture or a son of Noah turned away from his father or when saul turned against David or many other examples of treachery in the lives of divine servants of God, these examples from the scriptures are so we can see what to expect in the lives of divine servants today. Ain't nothin changed in that way.Many of those commenting here would have followed absalom, saul, and or korah when he lead 250 men and turned against Moses and Aaron.
ThePstar19 1 year ago
May Allah (SWT) bless Malcolm X.
A true Muslim he was, after leaving the Nation of Islam.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 thats the truth
donovantrina 1 year ago
What makes Malcolm a sell out because he, told that mr poole, was a cotton picker and a child molester.
rodger040674 1 year ago
@rodger040674 no it dosnt say hes a sell out that is just morality and speaks for itself he said earlyer that he had no intention of stating thosed facts but the fact that they asked about the death threats lead him to those words,
monkeyjoe9 1 year ago
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guitaHer099 1 year ago
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@guitaHer099 How dare you... "YOU FUCKING ASS!"
00Daizy00 7 months ago
This Nigga Was A Bigger Sellout Than I Ever Imagined! Shame on you for lying like this Malcolm. You are Disgusting!
MrScottydabody 1 year ago
@MrScottydabody Stop lying you agitator. Malcolm X was a great man and a bigger man than Elijah Who? and FarraCON.
imhotep1 1 year ago
@imhotep1 ... listen! you are the agitator, i am the truth speaker! malcolm is the sellout!
MrScottydabody 1 year ago
HERE IS THE ANSWER, for those who do not know, malcolm was attacked by the black muslim movement because at first the wasnt teaching the real religioun of Islam, they were just racist, so after Malcom found that up, he went astray and started teaching the real religioun of Islam which has gone against the American Nation of Islam. So that is why the were attacking him. He is not a racist and he died for good. RIP
Belshagy 1 year ago
Why did they do it?
TheGreatBritishTeen 1 year ago
Muhammad left instructions about the order The Qu'ran should be compiled. Wait, if it wasn't written then how could he have written instructions about how to compile it? Ok. Uthman therefore followed these instructions...
Shyne85 1 year ago
It was written during his time. It was COMPILED after he died.
hadith is like your new testament, written AFTER the death of Jesus. The earliest gospel was written in 70, 40 years after the death of Jesus.
Why does the Qu'ran says God teaches by the pen, if it wasn't written immediately?
Shyne85 1 year ago
@Shyne85 If you are going to ignore the verses which say don't follow anything besides the Qu'ran, a clear explanation for everything, than I don't have much more else to say. It makes no difference to me if you or other correct muslim scholars say The God changed his mind or cancelled His words, the Qu'ran even says nothing can change His words. And once again nasikah does not mean abrogate, and aya means miracle, not verse. I have nothing else to add. Unto you your deeds, unto me mine.
Shyne85 1 year ago
@Shyne85, What was written? the koran? if the koran was written and clear during muhummads lifetime why were other copies burn't, there were several different korans. It was ulthman not muhummad or allah that decided what went into the koran.
360Truthman 1 year ago
@360Truthman There are several bibles as well. Even ones before the old testament. Check out the Thyadale's(sp?) bible. In my opinion All holy books were written by man.
QuantumBlazeN86 1 year ago
to 360truthman, it confirms scriptures like yours which give 4 different accounts of Jesus baptism, different accounts of his last words, and different accounts of how he was born. Why is it that Paul, someone who was not even a disciple, who never met Jesus, and was actually reviled and labelled a false teacher by both Peter and James had such a strong influence over Christianity?
Shyne85 1 year ago
RAT! Stop snitching to the media & do something about. I woulda...ah..if they try....ah...almost...ah.
JMcLovn 1 year ago
Nation of Islam and Islamic are two different things.
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
i read some comments, and some of you never heard about Malcolm x
BDN222 1 year ago 2
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BDN222 1 year ago
"nation of islam" tried to kill malcom x because he knew the truth of islam and that nation was spreading its deception under the name of islam.
(nation of islam wasnt muslim but malcom was)
he started thinking about what is right and wrong and he ended up being muslim if anyone tried to think he will be muslim
because
thinking = reaching logic solutions = islam
BDN222 1 year ago
Malcolm X was a Righteous man.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
Peace!! Who could not hold the highest reverence for this man except those who are threatened by his SOMETHING they know they cannot and will never achieve!!!! Peace
luvwriting1 1 year ago
fuck the nation of ignorance islam.. anf cuk illaya.. and his fake religion.. i hope the black ppl who in that religion wil wake up and se the true islam..
faw21 1 year ago
no UFKC UOY .......REAL MY ASS, WE KICK ''REAL ISLAM ''asses all the time i'm ever in the street and you don't say shit, INTERNET MUSLIM, all praises due to the key board.......Saudi Arabia give the NOI, qurans in the 50s and 60s, even if they didn't point is, who the UKFC are you,teach your women to read first ...
mightylionzman 1 year ago
divide and conquer white devil set all that shit up,malcom should have never spoke foul of elijah,thats something you just dont do
1qalo92ws 1 year ago
niggah please!!!
Hugh33h 2 years ago
the nation of islam made up the illuminati conspiracies, to explain away the assassination of Malcom X, and also create a paranoia in the black community, to keep them afraid of the white man. they are the real threat to black america.
elvisisdead26 2 years ago
gr8 man
aadejumo 2 years ago
It seems that a lot of poeple don't get the difference between being muslim and being part of the nation of islam, the first is a religion the second is a sect. get educated
reda02812 2 years ago
say it loud
awwyeaboyee 2 years ago
hey can someone reply and tell me if malcom x was still muslim at the time of that interview
The1punchKO 2 years ago
@The1punchKO yea he was always muslim
BigJuan3134L 2 years ago
@The1punchKO He was
ohmybabyjesus 2 years ago
he was muslim until he died, he just switch from an islamic sect like the nationn of islam to the mainstream islam.
reda02812 2 years ago
Stop lying idiots. Nation of Islam was against Malcolm and they didn't bomb Malcolm's house because they were infiltrated they bombed Malcolm's house cause they wanted to kill Malcolm. All you Black Mulims from Africa to America are spitting on our ancestor's graves. Shame shame shame
ballymo85 2 years ago 18
@ballymo85 yes da hell they did because he know with it really mean to be a mulims and malcom is not a 5 per soner
bigdogent92 2 years ago
the Nation of Islam was NOT against Malcolm X they were against Elijah Muhammad he taught people hatred and everything Islam goes against but they believed him when they said that he taught them the true Islam
mohammadabudabasa 2 years ago
@muhammadabudabasa truth truth and more truth........
the honorable ELIJAH MUHAMMAD have four books and none of them, teach hate to no ONE, I dare you to quote ANY BOOK,second that time there were lynching BLACKS 100 A month,do your research and tell some truth, how many EGYPTIANS moses spoke well of,or save .........
mightylionzman 2 years ago
@ballymo85 You cannot claim yourself to not be racist as long as you group people together and not recognize individualism. There are plenty of black muslims that are greatly worthy of respect
JoshFritz561 1 year ago
@ballymo85
ballymol
These Black Muslims are nothing but ignorant assholes in the making, because in their ungrateful attitude, they treated Malcolm in a nasty and a disgusting way.
Our ancestors will defintely be venting their disgust for the ignorant disgrace that their own sons and daughters have disgrace them in such a way.
Also, we have fools who think that coming from Africa is a curse, well I expect that from these demon racist pricks that stigmatise us.
peasah2005 1 year ago
MORALS....... what underage girls prove it gimme names it's 40 years old...if so The Hon. Elijah Muhammad
would have been arrested by authorities, where are theses young girls,who were ABUSED,.....MORALS ,malcolm ran his mouth when he was PUNISH not before, he had his own interest,he and his wife thats why after they LEFT, she never wore the head garment why didn't she follow her husband after he found ''real islam'' .KILLING MALCOLM WOULD NOT SOME THING N.O.I. WOULD DENIED .that's the truth
mightylionzman 2 years ago
@mightylionzman , You should listen to the 1993 saviours day speech where farakhan when talking about malcolm says "If you attack elijah muhummad I'll kill you, yesterday today and tomorrow", he makes it very clear to me, maybe it's because I'm not deaf and can hear what's being said and not blind and can see who's saying it.
360Truthman 1 year ago
@360Truthman i did listen to 1993 Saviour's day speech,killing malcolm is not something the N.OI.,would have hide,if you do believe what goes around comes around,well the hon.ELIJAH MUHAMMAD died in his bed, and we will have to see how FARRAKHAN goes......but ALLAH allowed all of this to happen,take it up with HIM, and the guy ''who shot malcolm'' khalid islam made a documentary about malcolm,BACK by the ILLUMINATI,and he said he didn't k