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  • if the crews were equal on both ships then the excelsior would kick ass because the enterprise was a science type vessel and the excelsior is a war type vessel

  • WHY IS THERE SO MUCH FREAKING SPINNING AROUND IN THESE TREK GAMES!!! ITS ANOYING FRUSTRATING AND MOTION SICKNESS DRIVEN! The ships can;t move around like that or spin!!!! and bump into each other

  • Need some Aft torpedoes. Still got the job done though!

  • I think I have a problem with this mod. I installed it and updated to 2.2. I havent installed the start trek XI pack yet.

    Well my battles take up to three times as long as this one in the video. I think somethings wrong. After like 4 minutes of constant phaser and torpedo firing I finally get the shields off.

    Then I ill unload like 6 torpedos into the hull of Lets say a TOS romulan bird of prey an it does like 0 damage.

  • wow,there voices sound like they are 300years old.

  • I had this game it sucked there if not for the mod nation this game was DOA and still is really a perfect example of it is the damage the just poped up on the big E after the battle WTF???

  • Cappin' she's packing quite a wallop! SHIELDS WEAKENING!

    Oh I do love scotty!

  • Finnaly, a video that doesnt lag to hell and back.

  • Wow, a video of Kirk beating the piss out of an Excelsior-Class with the Enterprise-A. Cool.

  • Both ships took heavy damage by the time the video was through. But Enterprise ended up victorious!

  • ive got this game but it wont run on my PC. how do i make it work?

  • there looks to be no technical complexity to this game. Klingon academy was a badass game, it had some deep strategy

  • Where can i get this mod?

  • I know this is a "Nooby" question but how the heck do you fire protons?

  • If that's the best an Excesior can do, maybe they should have a Recall?

  • @MetallicaFan035 ps2 version? it's never been on ps2

  • It just shows the Connie is still the best ship ever...

  • Where can i download this game for pc?

  • Fire phasers at will.

    Poor Will, everyone is always shooting at him. :(

  • that phaser sound suck

  • Phew! That was pretty close!

  • why does Spock say 'weapons armed and shields up', then 'may i suggest we raise our shields and arm weapons'?

  • I love how pieces of the Excelsiors nacelles come off and yet the nacelle is still intact on the ship.

  • Now, Star Trek 25th Anniversary...and Judgement Rites...THOSE were star trek games...Somebody tell me....why are games made in 1992 and 1993, by-far the best star trek games to date? This is shit! I want dynamic storylines, away missions (landing parties!), ship exploration, planet exploration...and NO, NOT SHITTY STAR TREK ONLINE!

  • WHY ALL THE SHITTY STAR TREK GAMES?? Star trek is better than star wars, but they sure can take some lessons from star wars video games...

  • @Blendeture look at the star trek show,for most of it they do nothing but talk,star wars is all action.

  • @Blendeture Have you tried Star Trek: Bridge Commander?

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  • Should have waited untill tuesday...

  • hold on how comes i havent seen the Narada In ST Legacy Mods yet.

  • Seems like a pretty good mod... How is it compared to Bridge Commander and it's Kobayashi Maru mod?

  • If i have just normal legacy and have put minor mods into it already such as ships, would this mod work fine just by downloading it and letting it do its thing? will i encounter any problems?? i really want this scenario like spock and uhura talking and more command voices and the effects are awesome!! can i do this?? i have windows xp and currently play my STL game daily will it work ?

  • can the Enterprise in like the show or movie actually perform the manuevers you are having it do in this vid??

  • This is a bit strange, Enterprise is way older than Excelsior right? Why did Enterprise so easily able to destroy Excelsior?

  • both ships were updated and refitted around the same time so they're pretty much an even match.

  • I want an Excelsior voice mod of Sulu saying, " HELOOOOOOOO!" or, "Set phasers to FABULIOUS". LOL a sweet one would be "I'M GONNA SCRATCH YOUR EYS OUT SHATNER!", and "KHAAAAAAAAAAN, who does your hair sweetie?" And no I'm not making fun of all gay PPL just DICKS like George Takei. He cried on howard Stern because he couldn't get "his" series, "Excelsior" on the air. The sad part is he blamed Shatner (no suprise there) and the guy who played Scotty (HE'S DEAD).

  • what is better ultimate univerce 2.0 or trek battles 3 and can i instal two of them on along with trek battles 3? i ask you because you got this mod

  • hello if you use Fraps for ths video, may I ask what fps do you use?

    btw lovey video!! Enterprise all the way!!

  • Insult to iinjury: This is the Enterprise-B refit. That ship was faulty the moment she left dock.

  • @MrThomasCWest Eh, the captain of that ship was faulty. Check out the U.S.S. Lakota.

  • @KJOSCOT the lakota but one hell of a fight on with the defiant 

  • @bryruncorn Yeah. If memory serves, That starship was 'tinkered' with. This tinkering enabled the crew to raise more energy that increased the firepower against the Defiant. However, the Defiant had the upper hand being 80 years younger in design than the Lakota's Excelsior-class heritage. However, in fighting a Constitution-class ship, the Excelsior should have made quick work of the Constitution-class ship irregardless of the one captaining her just by sheer firepower alone.

  • @KJOSCOT not quick work as between the excelsior class refit and constitution class refit does not have to much power difference betwwen them. main battles depend who commands the ship... starfleet have beat the borg twice because of command, the borg was out thinked lol... i'm about to go into battle now, uss enterprise a v uss lakota lol and it's on hard where this video was on medium

  • @MrThomasCWest perhaps u can't read! the enterprise battle's the uss philen ncc-3952 and the enterprise itself is just ncc-1701, no bloody a, b, c or d

  • When the Excelsior launched in 2284, Scotty had sabotaged her engines and she had to be towed back into space dock. The Enterprise, at that point, could have laid waste to the Excelsior. But putting them on equil footing, it would really depend on the crew of the Excelsior. Would the Excelsior crew be using new tactics or tactics learned at the Academy, most of which were written by Kirk by that time? Excelsior may be stronger, but Enterprise has the experience. Enterprise all the way!

  • excelsior class was designed as a replacement for the constuiton(sorry for bad spelling)

  • This game is running so smooth... l can't seem to patch up my Star Trek Legacy. I'm running my computer on Vista. Does any1 know why my game doesn't patch up? Thanks in advance ;\

  • needs a better graphics card. if you are using the one that came with your computer, it is most likely too slow. I have the same problem and it drives me absolutely nuts

  • Kirk would never have blown a ship up without trying to save someone onboard.

  • i dont know about this fight. I mean come on wasn't the excelsior one of the top of the line battleships back then and the enterprise refit was still just a cruiser.... one that had been through alot of shit lol so i guess what i am saying is shouldnt the excelsior have one.......

    My only thoughts is that maybe do to size and maneuverability differences the enterprise was able to adjust its angles of attack to maximize firepower.

  • it all has to do with the player i guess. i mean the Excelsior refit is in fact stronger than the Constitution refit in this game mod.

    i know because i made them.

  • What game is this ????

  • hey i cant pass lvl 1 because evrytime i almost win the battle my game freezes then in 5 min it says an error happened what do i do???

  • can som 1 give me the system requirments

  • Shouldn't have use those torpedoes before shield's were down

  • i wonder how this game controls. with mouse or with keyboard?

  • what mod are you using for the explosion, phaser, torpedo, voice etc. effects?

  • It would be nice to see the USS Concord the most powerful of the Excelsior-class refit models in Legacy i mean there is a Filefront download. Just talking here because Excelsior is one of my favorite ships.

  • isnt this model in Trek Battles 2 ?

  • I'd love to see a what If.. episode. The Excelsior is the bigger ship, but the Enterprise has Kirk.

    Perhaps the original Excelsior would be fairer.

  • is tere anybody that is got the this game and want to go one on one when me? I happen to have the startrek pc game legacy that is why?

  • what mod did you use to get the phaser sounds from the movies?

  • hmmm would be cool that is a nice enterprize hey i gto a video request if it matter to you or not. anyway could u make a video with the newely updated enterprize from star trek the new updated enterprize the any way awesome videos that u create what kinda recording softwaree do you use. Because the hypercam always blinks on soem of my star wars empire at war videos when i poen media player anyway is there some type of debugger i can get to get these blinks off thanks anyway..

    regards GOODKID8

  • Why is Enterprise fighting the Excelsior? IS Shatner still mad about not getting invited to George Takei's wedding? Just kidding.

  • XD Good one!

  • @DSmith99000 LMAO! That is funny.

  • @DSmith99000 I think ppl have been wanting to see this since ST:III. I know I have.

  • i have a problem

    whenever i try to stat it up it says application or binkw32.dll is not a windows image

    how do i correct this problem

  • Is this the PC version? If so, do you think the game is "worth it"? I'd just like some imput,I'm thinking about getting this, but I've seen some bad reviews.

  • This is the PC version and personally of all the games that I have, I don't think it is worth getting unless you can get it for cheap. It is probably a game that you'll play once through that is if you manage to finish it. The only exception is the ultimate universe mod which you can google and download online for free. In my opinion it makes a lot of improvements in the game, but I no longer really play this anymore. It will most likely remain on my game shelf now on.

  • Does it crash and all that IGN or something said?

  • @FrontFox let me guess you moved on to the new STO?

  • @FrontFox Do you have Bridge Commander? I have it and with all the mods still coming out I still have a blast with it! And it came out in 2002!

  • @Reierdacool yea its werth it and u can get a modification called trek battles 2 and has almost every single ship that is seen and there are more that add realism for the ships to match that of shows or films

  • @Reierdacool the best PC Star Trek game ever is Bridge Commander and only because of the modding community. Totally worth it if you can devote the time to modding it properly. Check out bridgecommanderDOTfilefrontDOT­com.

  • @Reierdacool you should get it check out the ultimate universe mod that makes it worth it

  • @Reierdacool Great game. defiantly get it. best star trek game ever. really atmospheric & a lot of fun. I haven't stopped playing since it came out :)

    but if ur really anal about how the star trek universe 'should be' & wear an anorak & get really pissed off when the time line isn't 'correct' or some such rubbish that stops you from enjoying a really good 'fictional' game in a 'fictional' universe, where u get to blow stuff up! hey!. maybe its not for you.

    personally i like blowing stuff up :)

  • What if Kirk had to fight against Chuck Norris....hopefully the powers of the world would band together to ensure that such a catastrophy would never happen.

  • the universe would implode

  • I wounder what kirk could do with a enterprise E? Al so you can have the best ship but what about skill. All so I would like to see A,B,C,D,E vs the evil A,B,C,D,E from the ultimate universe at the same time! Who do you think would win? Respond please.

  • Kirk would rule the universe.

  • the evil ones would win as they were war ships and had more firepower, plus the evil versions of the captins wouldnt have moralaty or "directives" to get in the way

  • i only wish i had this game

  • i get it tomarrow

  • lucky....

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  • How many times do I have to say it... it's not the ship that counts... it's the crew and the commander.

    Captain Kirk would own in anything under his command. Now you give him his crew, which were all top notch officers and he'll totally annihilate you.

  • Hey FrontFox, how did you get the crew to say all of those things. Did you take it from a Star Trek Film?

  • I love how the Enterprise has like...one scratch on it, then suddenly when it goes to warp it looks like hell all of a sudden.

    It's kinda like what happened from II to III.

  • what aout the new one from the new film

  • The Enterprize A could never take down the enterprize C

  • that was the enterprise b

  • you really don't know how to dogfight...

  • i wanna see enterprises a b c and d vs the enterprise e, who do you think would win

  • im pretty sure the A B C and D would win - D is pretty strong

  • i think a b c d would win if fought all at once, but what if e fought them one at a time (with no chance to recover inbetween each battle)

    thats what i dont know

  • lol im pretty sure the E would win then. If the E can take a huge ass beating from the Reman Warbird Scimitar, then I doubt the older enterprises wont be able to do jack one at a time, as the E can probably defeat the A B and C in under a minute lol. And the D would probably last 2 or 3 minutes max lol. That and the D got owned by that ancient klingon ship

  • ya ied say a-c dead in 30 sec or less. all pecard would have to do is transfer all power to weps and fire a good birst of fazers and a pear of quantoms. D might go a bout 2-3 min

  • D got owned by the klingon ship because Riker didnt change the shield frequency, instead he babbled something about plasma coils and tried to hatch some brilliant plan; and i think D could've overpower that ship, shields or no shields

  • I agree with you but E would be a bitch to take out.

    A would not have a chance C and D would be the challenge.

  • I dont even think C would be a challenge either. Remember, the E can easily take out ships such as warbirds and neg vars

  • Yeah but the C and D together against E. Remember D was pretty much in every episode superior to all craft that appeared.

  • Yea the D is one tough behemoth, but the thing about E that makes it too "cheap" is that it has quantum torpedoes, much better impulse engines, better targeting systems, and i bet better shields and phasers

    Now if whoever designed the D was sensible, and they replaced all the useless extras the D has like restaurants, schools, and holodecks, and added in more technology and weapons, then i think it would be even

    Some reason I just cant see the D standing up to that reman warbird like the E did

  • Oh I'm not saying that D or any Galaxy class could stand against the War Bird.

    But E was as we can both agree was outmatched by the War Bird.

    And I tip my hat the E after what you have said would beat D.

    But Not without Galaxy doing some intense damage to E, which I read some where had 16 phasers and other nice toys.

  • that one is the A

  • hey i have a question does The Excelsior look like The Enterprise?

  • Whoops, my Conni doenst look liek that, the deflecter and the lights are not the same,... how?

  • Which mod is it? Does it look better then Ultimate Universe?

  • hmmm refitted conny does look cool thats for sure. I like the Sovvys tho. They just look like they mean business..

  • the defiant kicks ass on that game!

  • PS: The refit-Constitution class is the sexiest of ALL Star Trek ships. If we ever build a space ship to look like one from ST, I hope to god it is the Enterprise from STTMP

  • I agree. That ship was always my favorite, ever since I was a kid. In my opinion, no other starship since has been as cool, except maybe for the Defiant from Deep Space Nine.

  • I'm guessing that the reason Miranda class starships can still be seen in service during TNG and Constitution class vessels are not is that Miranda class ships are built new as you see them. The 1701 Enterprise and her sister ships were upgraded from the original specs. While improved, this means they are still older. The Connie class was Starfleets bread and butter in her day, but they most likey designed Excelsior to replace the model for practical reasons.

  • Even if the Constitution class had an amazing crew like the Enterprise, it would never be able to defeat an Excelsior refit class. Nice vid but unrealistic.

  • It could beat them if Captain Kirk was in command!

  • I wish they didn't use the Star Trek II: Wrath of Kahn phaser sound effect in this game. It sounds so odd.

  • I prefer the TOS phasers.

  • What did you use to record your videos with?  They are really good quality.

  • I used FRAPS to record the video.

  • Yes, this would have definitely been a better ending to the undiscovered country

  • Frig that. Galaxy class all the way. When I first saw first contact, I was actually quite dissapointed with the New Sovergn class Enterprise E. It grew on me later, but the Galaxy looks far more impressive.

  • Yeah, but it can't stand its own against a Sovy. Galaxy has an impressive firepower, but little defense. Ent-E has type XII phasers, quantum torpedo turret and 4 burst fire photon torpedo launchers, plus regenerative shielding and ablative armor.

  • But the Galaxy has a lot of room for weapons.

    \With a sovergn warp core, type XII phasers, and a couple of more torpedo tubes (Quantum capible), the Galaxy class would rule.

  • That's if its hull can stand it. The Defian't warp core nearly ripped it to shreds. A Sovereign warp core on a galaxy class starship would be like swallowing a live cow. The Sovereign is stationed as an Enhanced Deterrance Explorer. Simply put, it serves for peace, but is meant for war. Galaxy class, rule, please give me a break. Ent-E would completely destroy Ent-D, even with saucer separation.

  • The Defiant was a TINY ship with a huge warp core that could power an Excelsior. The Galaxy class is actually more massive than the Sovereign, so what you say there makes no logical sense. Regenerative shields could be designed to fit the Galaxy as well as type XII phasers, and alblative armor. The Galaxy class was built huge with plenty of room for improvements.

    Don't be so silly. There is enough room on a galaxy class to fit it with a quantum turrit as well.

  • You short-minded simpleton. You have missed the entire point. It's not the physical size of the warp core, it's the power. Have you tried powering up 100 watt bulb with a socket only designated for 75? Sure, the Defiant warp core could power up an excelsior, but the galaxy class has been proven time and time again that it's warp core can be easily deadly (i.e, destruction of Ent-D) a Sovy warp core on a galaxy class ship is like the sun going nova. Having room doesn't make it better.

  • Well, argueing about fictional technology shows how much of a simpleton you are sir. Does it not? : ) (Chill and be cool.) I am not taking this arguement seriously at all. ; )

    The power requirements for a galaxy class could easily handle a sovereign warp core. All that would be needed would be upgraded plasma conduits, replace the phasers, and upgrade the torpedo tubes, and even add a couple of more. There is enough room for it.

    Stop being so single minded.

  • Akso, I did not miss your point, I dismissed it outright.

  • Also, I obviously was not refering to the stock Galaxy class.

  • Touché. It's all good. No hurt feelings. You're still wrong about the Galaxy, but this could go on and on, so for the sake of diplomacy, I'll agree to disagree.

  • I amnot wrong man! The galaxy upgrade took it up to about warp 9.9. What do you think this upgrade was?

    Hmmm. A big ass warp core built for the sovereign?

  • They did build new ships, they just used the old miranda spaceframes. Why put all that energy in to r&d when they have a good spaceframe in the computers that can be fitted with modern equipment. Do you really think that all those mirandas in DS9 are THAT old?

    Same with the Excelsior class. It was a good spaceframe, so they continued to use it for a while to keep fleet numbers up. the old constitution however, was obsolete because the Excelsior was it's replacement.

  • I can name some. the reman warbird owned the E. Romulan d'deridex classes can hold their own against a sovereign. so can klingon neg'vhar class ships. Borg cubes can hold their own against the E. Also dominion super battle cruiser can hold its own. No bloody A,B,C,D, or E. :)

  • excellent my enterprise won

  • it's like sending your grandpa to fight brock lesnar. :) The excelsiors suck too, it got crushed by a defiant class scout easily.

  • lol, Defiant class isn't a scout vessel. It's classified as a warship or escort vessel.

  • Regardless Defiant is not a full starship. 1/3 the size of the defiant. In the lakota vs. Defiant episode. the Defiant was actually holding back isn't that pathetic on part of the excelsior class.

  • Finally someone that's not bashing the constitution class. Here's my theory. Miranda class ships are cheap to build, easy to refit, and cheap to maintain. After the dominion war the mirandas were finally put on the backburner for decomissioning because it couldn't hold up to the newer ships. Miranda class ships suck, if you watch TWOK, several hits and the ship is crippled. In TNG one hit and the ship is crippled or destroyed. This is my point they scrap connies but keep these paper ships.

  • it was a hull fragment that has a similar look to the constitution class secondary hull but it was never exactly shown or stated to be a constitution class ship. since it was a point of Rick berman to not put any TOS material in TNG it would be logical that there wouldn't be a constitution class ship in TNG. It's good that they retired the connies by the 24th century, it just wouldn't look good having those great looking ships pairing up with bermans' starship cockroaches.

  • Nice video. A shame though, that you can't choose the opponents ships in Skirmish.

    I often want to re-create the battles from the movies, like the BOP vs. Enterprise in TSFS, only to have the Excelsior thrown at me in my BOP. :S

  • How do u get all the voices of the cast? is that in the game?

  • What game is this??

  • ST Legacy, DONT BUY IT FOR THE PC, they never finished it and its buggy as f@#?, the xbox 360 version was better.

  • thats a matter of opinion.. if u have the X-Box version, then your only limited to crappy graphics, a short line of ships, and much more.. the same is with the PC version of legacy, however if you add the total conversion mod Ultimate Universe then its much better.. UUM is what you see in this video..

  • Does UUM solve all the crashing and nebula slow down problems then?

  • it all depends an ur OS. if your using Vista, then no.. but if your using XP, then u shouldnt have a problem with it in the first place..

  • Balls, im using Vista 64 lol. What is the issue with Legacy and Vista anyway?

  • to get the best help, i would recomend signing up for an account there. its free, plus you can always add your problems to the list of vista problems on our site... you should be able to get the help you need..

    but here is one thing.. Vista will make it very difficult to play MP with friends.. thats mostly all i know..

    on the site, im Chris Martin, beta tester for the UUM.

    hope to see ya there. and i hope u get the help u need.

  • Did it occur to you to target her weapons...?

  • I personally don't like to use subsystem targeting that often. It makes for any battle a cake walk, especially in a 1 vs 1. It isn't like I can knock out their weapons and have them to surrender.

  • If you watched the star trek movies 3-6. Exclesiors weren't any better than connies. The only thing excelsiors were better at was probably mission duration because of their size but that's it.

  • newer doesn't equal better. Connies trump excelsiors.

  • I'd say that to some degree at least, it depends on the Captain and the crew. The Excelsior is often referred to as a battlecruiser - bigger, tougher, better performance and weapons - but if the Connie had a good crew and a cunning captain who knew exactly what his ship could do - someone like Captain Kirk, who was a very formidable ship-to-ship duelist - then I'd definitely bet on the Connie.

  • If thats true they why were all the Connies replaced? , old, out dated and probably under powered. I have no doubt an Excelsior class vessel could crush a Constution with no problem.

  • First off connies predate excelsiors by 45 years in trek. Connies spaceframe was designed to be used for 50 years. When the excelsiors were introduced in trek connies reached their 50 year time limit. So they either chose to upgrade the connies or scrap them for the excelsiors. That's what they did scrap them for the excelsiors. The excelsiors can do whatever the connies can do just a little better (like 10%) but the connies are much more maneuverable and pleasing to the eyes.

  • 2:20 - 2:30 wow i never noticed that weapons damage accurately showed on the hull like that, the blacktrails actually appear where the phasers hit. does this effect happen in the normal version?

  • Have they even finished 2.0?

  • Take us out of here Mr. Sulu? lol Didn't you just blow him up? if you use the Excelsior does it have a Sulu voice over?

  • Unfortunately no, if you remember, Sulu wasn't on the excelsior until Star Trek VI.

    This is the UU mod i presume?

  • You're right. This is the UU mod.

  • Fox... you do this and you'll never sit in the Captain's chair again. lol!

  • HES SEXY JIM

  • Kool!

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