only the americans would clip the wings of such a great british aircraft,improved low level flight or whatever, it just doesn't look right.......how many clipped wings did you see in the battle of britain??
@skinuthbilly : An acquaitance of mine flew clipped-wing Spitfire Mk 5s. In addition to spoiling the classic elliptical shape of the wings, he also noted that EVERYBODY shot at him, Germans and Allies alike. In the heat of battle, the Allies saw the square wingtips and thought they were looking at a German Me109.
@skinuthbilly The British cliped the wings. The disignation was LF (Low altitude Fighter). All you need do is unscrew and remove the big tips and install and screw in the short ones. This was done to increase speed and manouverability. You did not see this until after the battle of Britain, but the MK 9 in the video has the wingtips and paint job it had in combat in 1944.
At the risk of being shot down in flames, are you sure that is a Mark 9? Every Mark 9 I saw had the smaller Mark 5 tail, while the Marks 8 and 16 had the tail we see on this aircraft.
what frequently confused the pilots of the later spits (mk14 onwards) was that the Griffon engine prop turned the opposite direction to the merlin due to standardisation of propeller rotation that came in after the merlin. As the merlin required full right rudder on take off to stop it ground looping (swerving violently to the left due to engine torque and prop walk), the occasional forgetful pilot would apply the same to the griffon (rather than full left rudder )with predictable results.
The clipped wings were to improve low level flight. The added wing area was just not needed at denser air levels. More area is needed in higher (less dense) air. You cannot compare the Spitfires with the P51s.The Spitfire was designed to be a home defence air superiority interceptor, so it had a short range and rapid climb rate. The P51 was designed to be a long range escort. Two entirely different needs resulting in 2 entirely different aircraft, and designed years apart.
@19Ron66 i don't think that it. the clipped wings were to make the aircraft more maneuverable. now if the clipped wings were for use for carriers then there wont be a lot of space on the deck. look up the Seafire. a carrier version of the spitfire
Indeed you are right - I stand corrected! According to Wikipedia (so it must be right!): "..some Spitfires had their rounded wingtips replaced by shorter, squared-off fairings to improve low-altitude performance and enhance the roll rate. This designation referred to the low-altitude version of the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine and while many "L.F" Spitfires had the "clipped" wings, a number did not."
@bsg1206 ya but keep in mind the spitfire saved Britain form Nazi occupation and if Britain was invaded then the mustang may have not been born so i think more credit should go to the Supermarine Spitfire
@EnterpriseXI Surely you mean that the Hawker HURRICANE saved Britain from the German invasion, shooting down more enemy aircraft during the BOB, than ANY other means of defence put together.. The combination of the two aircraft is what saved Britain, but the majority of the effort was done by the Hurricane pilots..
The Mustang wasn't better than the Spitfire, but it came close when the manufacturers realised how good the Spit was and decided to use the same RR Merlin engines. It then got the speed and the altitude it needed, but was never as manouverable as the Spitfire.
My cousin Col. Malcolm Hormats was a Spitfire pilot for the RAF during WWII. There were 85 men in his squadron when the war started. At the end, only 3 men were left. Mal died in 2003. I miss him.
@beacheagles He may have been in one of the 'Eagle' (American Eagle) volunteer squadrons. These were Americans who who flew for the RAF prior to US entry to WW2, with squadrons 71, 121, and 133, I think it was. After US entry these were absorbed into the USAAF becoming 334th, 335th and 336th Fighter Squadrons of the 4th Fighter Group, but don't quote me on that:-)
Those who survived the Battle of Britain (very few!)had immense experience, a few becoming instructors in the USAAF!
@BKrystall well yea because the later models of the p-51 have the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine in it.. the same as the Spitfire.. and the Spitfire had it first so its better :P
Two ex The Fighter Collection (TFC) birds there!!! Use to love watching them at Duxford. I believe that this very MK 9 is a D-DAY veteran. Not sure though I believe I was told that when she was her in the UK :S
Think this sounds amazing now? Try hearing it live! It is indescribable
gwhitney2 1 month ago
only the americans would clip the wings of such a great british aircraft,improved low level flight or whatever, it just doesn't look right.......how many clipped wings did you see in the battle of britain??
skinuthbilly 1 month ago
@skinuthbilly : An acquaitance of mine flew clipped-wing Spitfire Mk 5s. In addition to spoiling the classic elliptical shape of the wings, he also noted that EVERYBODY shot at him, Germans and Allies alike. In the heat of battle, the Allies saw the square wingtips and thought they were looking at a German Me109.
octane130 1 month ago
@skinuthbilly More homework required! That's the way the Mk.5 was built - in England!!
1946nimrod 1 month ago
@1946nimrod Sorry, typo - read that as Mk.9.
1946nimrod 1 month ago
@skinuthbilly The British cliped the wings. The disignation was LF (Low altitude Fighter). All you need do is unscrew and remove the big tips and install and screw in the short ones. This was done to increase speed and manouverability. You did not see this until after the battle of Britain, but the MK 9 in the video has the wingtips and paint job it had in combat in 1944.
cfzippo 1 month ago
I'm flying the Mk 9 in this video.
cfzippo 1 month ago
Planes like Mustang p-51, Supermarine spitfire or F4U Corsair are still the coolest planes in history... fuck jets
Waudi9 1 month ago
V 12?
MrBravomikefoxtrot 1 month ago
my kawasaki needs one of those.
171apples171 1 month ago
The first might be a seafire judging by the isignia on the wings (Royal Navy).
hossahunter22 2 months ago
@hossahunter22 ...it's paint scheme is for the far east.......they remove the red from the roundel to prevent confusion with jap aircraft
Aussiephil99 1 month ago
i love this sound!
mavericksuperjacko 3 months ago
Wonderful. Much better than pokey bum fun
MajorJakarta 3 months ago
Can someone please explain alot to me?
423FGFDFHFHV 4 months ago
1 question did australia have these in ww2
v8luver64 4 months ago
@v8luver64 I dont think they got to produce their own but they fought with them against the Japonese Zero.
dassault2512 1 month ago
it's best music for my
apelsinas691 7 months ago
At the risk of being shot down in flames, are you sure that is a Mark 9? Every Mark 9 I saw had the smaller Mark 5 tail, while the Marks 8 and 16 had the tail we see on this aircraft.
MarsFKA 7 months ago
@MarsFKA The Mk IXe had the same pointed rudder as the Mk VIII and the Mk XVI
TopGunSGA 7 months ago
@MarsFKA additional: The Mk IXs you've seen would be the Mk IXc, which as you have said had the same rudder as the Mk V
TopGunSGA 7 months ago
@TopGunSGA Hmm. You learn something new every day. Thanks.
MarsFKA 7 months ago
@MarsFKA Glad I could help
TopGunSGA 7 months ago
that spitfire looks so fucking sweet and the engine too and when it prepares to fly i already fanasize about a ww2 scenario
vlad007001 9 months ago
@vlad007001 : I'll bet the guys who flew in combat and got shot at sure as hell don't fantasize about it anymore!
eimb1999 8 months ago
what frequently confused the pilots of the later spits (mk14 onwards) was that the Griffon engine prop turned the opposite direction to the merlin due to standardisation of propeller rotation that came in after the merlin. As the merlin required full right rudder on take off to stop it ground looping (swerving violently to the left due to engine torque and prop walk), the occasional forgetful pilot would apply the same to the griffon (rather than full left rudder )with predictable results.
wheelsdown1 9 months ago
It had to clear its throat, but its all right.
ThunderAppeal 1 year ago
Rolls Royce Merlin! Excellent engine! I like the sound..
MrAngelosilvestri 1 year ago
HistoryGypsy
The clipped wings were to improve low level flight. The added wing area was just not needed at denser air levels. More area is needed in higher (less dense) air. You cannot compare the Spitfires with the P51s.The Spitfire was designed to be a home defence air superiority interceptor, so it had a short range and rapid climb rate. The P51 was designed to be a long range escort. Two entirely different needs resulting in 2 entirely different aircraft, and designed years apart.
mtllilac 1 year ago 18
@mtllilac
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
im glad you put it straight.
that was really good of you to explaion the differences between the these two plane's.
I know alot of people will really like that you explained the difference between them.
and that you cant compare them on anything.
Two totally different plane's.
kirkconway 7 months ago
@mtllilac main simmilairity is the beautiful sound
RRYankfan 6 months ago
the spitfire now looks ugly with the clipped wing-tips. they destroyed the beauty of the aircraft
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI
The clipped wings were so it could operate off an aircraft carrier...
19Ron66 1 year ago
@19Ron66 i don't think that it. the clipped wings were to make the aircraft more maneuverable. now if the clipped wings were for use for carriers then there wont be a lot of space on the deck. look up the Seafire. a carrier version of the spitfire
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI
Indeed you are right - I stand corrected! According to Wikipedia (so it must be right!): "..some Spitfires had their rounded wingtips replaced by shorter, squared-off fairings to improve low-altitude performance and enhance the roll rate. This designation referred to the low-altitude version of the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine and while many "L.F" Spitfires had the "clipped" wings, a number did not."
19Ron66 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI
I do agree though - the rounded wing tips do look much better!
19Ron66 1 year ago
@19Ron66
Umm, No! The Seafire was produced at Westlands in Yeovil and had the normal elyptical wing form.
XxeventerxX1 1 year ago
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xXxMikeDirnTxXx 1 year ago
BEHOLD! MIGHTIEST AND MOST BEAUTIFUL WARPIECE EVER INVENTED! THANK U SIR REGINALD MITCHELL! CREATOR OF THE FLYING LEGEND!
popmerde 1 year ago
That engine didn't sound to good at the start...
MasonZstudios 1 year ago
the spitfire was the right plane at the right time
MasterBattle2000 1 year ago
@MasterBattle2000
i think the Messerschmid was better, but this sounds cooler :P
Helghast470 1 year ago
@Helghast470
Only the Mustang was better than the Spitfire, and even that is debatable.
bsg1206 1 year ago
@bsg1206 ya but keep in mind the spitfire saved Britain form Nazi occupation and if Britain was invaded then the mustang may have not been born so i think more credit should go to the Supermarine Spitfire
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI Surely you mean that the Hawker HURRICANE saved Britain from the German invasion, shooting down more enemy aircraft during the BOB, than ANY other means of defence put together.. The combination of the two aircraft is what saved Britain, but the majority of the effort was done by the Hurricane pilots..
BasicModelling 1 year ago
@bsg1206
The Mustang wasn't better than the Spitfire, but it came close when the manufacturers realised how good the Spit was and decided to use the same RR Merlin engines. It then got the speed and the altitude it needed, but was never as manouverable as the Spitfire.
19Ron66 1 year ago
@bsg1206
They filled different roles.
And if this is just a case of bias on your part: You do realize the P-51 was designed by a German, right?
N37BU6 1 year ago
why do i jizz every time i hear a Spitfire Merlin engine :D
dbell91 1 year ago
@dbell91 Probably because of the sound of that pissed off engine!
MasonZstudios 1 year ago
gotta be soooo nose heavy
gilz16 1 year ago
@gilz16 its actually perfectly well balanced air craft.
kinkaid25 1 year ago
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Anacinc 2 years ago
My cousin Col. Malcolm Hormats was a Spitfire pilot for the RAF during WWII. There were 85 men in his squadron when the war started. At the end, only 3 men were left. Mal died in 2003. I miss him.
beacheagles 2 years ago
@beacheagles He may have been in one of the 'Eagle' (American Eagle) volunteer squadrons. These were Americans who who flew for the RAF prior to US entry to WW2, with squadrons 71, 121, and 133, I think it was. After US entry these were absorbed into the USAAF becoming 334th, 335th and 336th Fighter Squadrons of the 4th Fighter Group, but don't quote me on that:-)
Those who survived the Battle of Britain (very few!)had immense experience, a few becoming instructors in the USAAF!
ianrkav 1 year ago
The sound of a really BIG piston engine is music to one´s ears...
Great video!
JanneFF 2 years ago
Great camera work!!!!
PatBALEX 2 years ago
sounds very similar to the P-51 Mustang
BKrystall 2 years ago
@BKrystall well yea because the later models of the p-51 have the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine in it.. the same as the Spitfire.. and the Spitfire had it first so its better :P
Gota love being English XD
dbell91 1 year ago
Two ex The Fighter Collection (TFC) birds there!!! Use to love watching them at Duxford. I believe that this very MK 9 is a D-DAY veteran. Not sure though I believe I was told that when she was her in the UK :S
jimbob1194 2 years ago
SWEET!
dutchboy25al 2 years ago
Music to MY ears...second post )P...lol
rayzordee 2 years ago 7
Music to my ears... First comment ahhh :)
pauka13 2 years ago