@artur4467 The DC-10's you see today are totally safe, they were pretty much rebuilt by boeing. The horror stories with the DC-10 happened back in the 70's-80's. Back when aviation in general was a lot more dangerous.
really nice.... listening to the beautiful ''wine'' of the engines brings back lots of memories.....had to ''favorite'' this one to my list.... and as for the ''memories'', my father worked for United Airlines [BDL] from March 12, 1962 to September 27, 1997, so DC-10's were definitely on ''the list''.... thanks for posting this.
@viperessprincess no kidding, I work for AA now im 24... I wish they still had maintenance at BDL as I'm from Connecticut :/.... living in Fort Worth now
There are many reasons. For example it´s weight, the operation range or safety reasons. It is to complicated to explain it in one comment only. But if you are interested, I could send you a PM with a more precise answer to your question. By the way, the DC-10 is not the only three-hole jet in history. There is also the MD-11, Boeing 727, Lockheed L-1011 Tristar, Tupolev TU-154 and some more.
Wooow, you are posting your e-mail adress here on YT ? You´d better delete your answer pretty fast quick ! Otherwise you´ll drown in spam-mails ! I´ll wright you via YT. But not tonight. I live in Germany. It´s 1:30 am here and therefore I have to go to bed. But you´ll get your answer. Cheers to Canada !
@water892 Check the type's history. The original 1966 AA request was for a wide body twin engine carrying 250 pax non-stop from coast to coast, but when Dougkas tried to interest other airlines, both United and Eastern said that two engines wasn't comfortable for them for their over the Rockies and overwater flights, so Douglas convinced AA to go along with the 3 engine idea, which would facilitate future development of the still unborn heavy version (future series 20 and 30)
my first ride, as a 5 year old..was on a DC-10 Houston to San Angelo and your absolutely right about that sound..very unique indeed! Heart Pounding waiting to get airborne.
Awesome takeoff.....nice sounds of the turbofan engine as heard.... BTW..I was in a DC10 on 2/24/85 taking off from NYC's JFK airport...and was right behind the Concorde SST jet....((when they were still flying too))... I was on my way down to beloved Ixtapa, Mexico..a trip I'll never forget....of course..camcorders and certainly YouTube didn't exist way back then....wish they had, though..for I would have gotten a nice video of the Concorde jet taking off right in front of us.
The L-1011 had a higher pitch from the RR engines, I liked the 1011 better, but still liked the DC-10. Lockheed also made the constellation, Howard Hughes designed it and fly it and owned TWA, also was instrumental in the design of the Lockheed L-1011 envisioning wide-bodied aircraft. 1st to serve coffee and inflight movies, also his ideas!
@howardcod4 ~~>Excellent comparison between the DC-10 and the L-1011...they do look alike...but the #2 engine is more like the 727's #2-engine on the L-1011's... I also remember the Lockheed Constellations....in fact..I was in one when flying the Eastern Shuttle from LaGuardia airport to Boston Logan...I've just turned 10 at the time....Obama was just 5 at the time too. Excellent reminiscings of the in-flight deluxe meals, movies and so much more....when ''flying the friendly skies'' cheaply
@tstormmoulton1 Thanks, I also think the 1011 was more attractive with the #2 engine not sticking out the back like it did on the DC-10. So true re; the 727, another great bygone aircraft yet not a "heavy". Very cool you flew on the "connie" I did on all the greats including the 707, DC-8. My fav was the L-1011 and now it is the B-777 as it to me is the closest to the 1011, size and seat conf. and sound of engines. Never been a fan of the Airbus' but the A-340 is long and wide. Miss those days!
@howardcod4 ~~~~>So good to hear from you, ''Howardcod''....Excellent reminiscings of all those early days of the jetliner days as well as the ''Connie''... I remember I was in a PanAm 707 JET flying from Montevideo, Uruguay on 1/29/64 inside a severe Tstorm((summer down there))...to Buenos Aires..then flew nonstop to JFK airport the next day....Perhaps you remember the day you first flew in any jetliner and/or inside a Connie or electra Propjet....love to hear that, my new friend:-)
@Jorgeroots So what? I LOVE the DC-10!!! The fact that it's a killer airplane makes it even MORE exciting!!! There's absolutely NOTHING scary about flying in DC-10s!!! I've flown in lots of them!! You're just a f**king paranoid SOB!!!
havent you ever noticed but its always the good looking planes that have flaws like DC-10, A380, 747, and Dash 8 but uglier planes like L-1011 are safer
@ghettoperson257 To me the A380 is an amazing aircraft, but not as beautifull as the 747 - the classics with the small hump look even mor elegant to me.
I don't understand why aircraft can't be loud....a loud aircraft is usually one where you know the engines are still running and you're not falling out of the sky :) I remember when this video first came out three years ago. I rediscovered aircraft after flying in a Bombardier CRJ-700.
I was on a DC-10 going to and from Kuwait via ATA airlines. Why was this model considered accident prone? Was it just design flaws they had to work out? I'm referring to all the accidents in the 70's.
@HVACKID94 I live near the Indianapolis International Airport and there are about 10 DC10's or MD11's that land there every week night and usually takeoff within a few hours of their landing. They are used for Fedex Air Cargo, but for national cargo mostly. Beautiful airplane, sounds fantastic as well.
@HVACKID94 Yes, the DC10 is still on active service. You just won't find too many out there because they're expensive to maintain. Charter companies like this one and World Airways keep them in service.
@yahweh18 Newer engines have better fuel consumption rates,and are less noisy. Additionally, newer designs have digitalized cockpits, including fuel management systems and therefore can fly with only two cockpit crew instead of three. So all that means less expense for the airline. But this plane is still far from a museum piece, and is an excellent freighter.
@DarkKnightBob1o1 Ok dude that was one incident. That was traced back to a defective fan disk, which was cast at the Alcoa company. Something happened during manufacturing to where a stress fracture was caused and this was confirmed during a dye penetrant inspection post crash. This is not a type design failure, just a manufacturing defect. They happen.
@airnicholai not always true. The takeoff speed is dependent on a/c size, flap setting, weight, aspect ratio, etc. Just saying 150-200mph isn't good enough
@CivSi02 Well, that an airplane, such as the DC10, takes off between 150-200 mph is as true as it can be. Because it is a general statement. Not a specific one. If you ask a pilot at which speed the aircraft takes off he flies, he will always reply "between x and y mph/kts/kmh" (and explain the dependant factors), unless you ask him at which speed the airplane took off today whilst you are in the cockpit.
@CivSi02 Well, I could start to talk about all the other v-speeds as well just to suggest people here how smart I am. But it doesn't matter in relation to the comment that an airplane takes off between 150-200 mph. Because it does take off between 150-200 mph. At which speed exactly has to be determined by the cockpit crew, not by laymen in the passenger cabin, in front of a TV or at the Youtube comments section. For those people, and generally, 150-200 mph is a valid range of information ;)
@AirSimming Yeah you could start to talk about all the other V-speeds to suggest to others how narcissistic you are as well. It isn't like I went to school for this or anything. Are you suggesting that every aircraft has takeoff speeds that high as well?
@CivSi02 Narcissistic is a true term. We're talking about aircraft such as the DC-10. I guess any halfway educated person knows that the comment of airnicholai wasn't related to something like a Cessna 152 for example ;)
So let's take the DC-10 as an example for V2: the range of V2 for the DC-10 goes from 122 kts (140 mph) to 172 kts (198 mph). airnicholai was quite close with his numbers, which were meant to give a general example, not a specific speed taking all related factors into account.
@AirSimming I not once stated that airnicholai was wrong. And yes, it was a general example. But the original question was "What is the takeoff speed on an airplane". Assuming he meant this particular aircraft, which yes, that is a very, very good example. But lets not get people confused here. Not everyone that watches this is educated in aeronautics, aviation, what have you. Different aircraft have different requirements. That's all I meant, and not to get into a pissing match.
@CivSi02 Yes, different aircraft have different requirements of course. I didn't say you were wrong by the way. All I say is that the comment of airnicholai fits to such kind of aircraft like seen in your video :)
@rags015 I don't know where you get your information from, but yes, as far as efficiency is concerned, the 400ER is perfect. Quieter? Doubtful, because the optional powerplant was a CF6, which is what powers this aircraft. Fuel hungry, most likely, you have 3 powerplants to feed here, but as someone said in an earlier post, the max ramp weight is insane on these things, and they are very, very safe, contrary to what others may say. Any problems they had, have long since been fixed.
@CivSi02 And the Ramp weight is what made the DC-10 such a winner. OK comparative to new aircraft there may be a higher burn rate but...when it came to the ability to carrry payload, without weight restrictions...you couldn't beat this aircraft. Even out of EWR with it's harsh restriction on Runway 11-29, you could get this bird flying within 25% of it's MTOW. Though there was one problem, that was keeping the 10 within it's COG limits when full because it was so nose heavy.
@tonybklyn And I thank you for the backup. Its good to meet educated people. Yeah CG would be an issue. Haven't compute that in forever lol. It's a % of MAC, I know that much. Where are you an A&P?
@roadracer1593 Erroneous on all accounts. Are you an aircraft engineer? You speak as if you have no idea what you're talking about. You are obviously not educated very well in aviation. If they weren't safe to fly, then aviation authorities (FAA, EASA, etc) would NOT let these birds in the air. The incidents you're talking about were due to design flaws that were fixed long ago.
@roadracer1593 Never in my life will I ever hear a more ignorant comment than what came spewing from your mouth. Who are you to call me a communist? There are people laying their lives on the line so dipshits like you can say whatever you want. Does it feel good? You are obviously not educated, and your actions show it. And threatening our commander in chief isn't bright. Big brother does look at these comments, and they can find out who you are. All it takes is one phone call
@roadracer1593 LOL just keep it up bro! Military too eh? Guess what? Me too. You're a disgrace. I actually served. You probably weren't even in. Communist? Really? Keep replying, because this is my only comic relief, you may be laughing at me, but everyone else is laughing.....at you
@CivSi02 I've been reading his post as well, and without a doubt, this guy has NO aviation experience, other than maybe watching news clips, or airline commercials. Because if he did, and he knew what a wonderful workhorse the 10 was and is, he wouldn't say these things. Worse yet...LOL, he's arguing with a well knowing person, which only makes him look just that much more ridiculously stupid.
@tonybklyn I went to A&P school in Clearwater, FL. Unfortunately, because I had extremely hard family issues and sets of military orders, I couldn't finish, and the school wouldn't excuse my missed time. I miss the school dearly. Finished powerplant study, and made it through sheet metal fabrication part of airframe. If I had the money to do it over again, I would in a heartbeat
@CivSi02 Well that sucks to hear about the A&P school but really if i were you i wouldnt give a shit about family id ignore everything and enjoy my life doing what i want who caring.
@TheWarPlanet family was a small part of the issue there. I also had to take leave of absence due to military training as well. And the family circumstances were different, which shall not be shared on here. Trust me, I miss it terribly.
@cesar333 but that could be the case with any job. I will agree that the A&P job market isn't easy. It's every man for himself out there. In my area, there was virtually nothing. Nothing at PEMCO, Avant air, anywhere. It's extremely discouraging for new graduates, and it is something the school will lie to you about, saying that the market is extremely good....maybe in other states or areas. The school will lie to get your money.
@whatstheprob1932 OAE is a charter company, say a plane breaks down, the airline can charter one of OAE's planes and continue the flight, may be a day late. but meh..
@TheHockey14000 Even its big brother the MD11 was no safer. In fact I think its even more dangerous with dodgy software causing stability problems during landing. Many ended up upside down on fire.
@noodlebike Because nobody ever lost their life on a Tristar - and nobody has ever died on a much more modern Airbus have they??
I love your use of "Many ended up upside down on fire" - that'll be two then - and precisely what "software" caused either of those crashes? Despite incidents involving the MD11, only two and not "many" were involved in this way. However, thanks for sharing your limited understanding of Douglas trijets.
@Dc10Series30 there were three major l-1011 incident involing easter, saudiaand delta. the saudia was on the grounf and started when some people decided they wanted to brew their own tea in the aisile before take off. other than that the l1011 was one of the finest aircradt to ever grace the skies.
@landman1973 I'm not a pilot. But here is my most educated guess at it. Takeoff speed is determined by a lot of factors. Wing flap settings, weight, runway distance, among a few others. All things being good, you have three speeds to satisfy. V1, Vr, and V2. V1 is the decision speed, can I take off safely if one engine fails or abort? Vr is the speed at which the pilot pulls back on the yoke to raise the nose. V2 is the speed at which the wheels leave the ground and you're flying.
@landman1973 The DC10-30 series has a fuel capacity of 36,350 gallons of fuel, which can propel the aircraft a distance of 6,220 statute miles approximately, and we were heavy that day. A full aircraft with military personnel on board along with fuel and full cargo holds
@iloveyourstory Electronic equipment like laptops, cell phones, etc. that send signals can affect radio communication in the flight deck. Most cameras like battery operated digital cameras are generally not an issue. However it's always best to check with your flight attendant if you are unsure.
Thanks for the explanation of the buzzaw sound :)
jakobole 2 months ago
i will never fly in dc10. danger airplane. just in boeing and airbus
artur4467 2 months ago
@artur4467 DC9/MD80's are far worse though!
DannyBoySmith1993 2 months ago
@artur4467 Boeing have had a lot of plane crashes
LandRoverWay23 1 month ago
@artur4467 The DC-10's you see today are totally safe, they were pretty much rebuilt by boeing. The horror stories with the DC-10 happened back in the 70's-80's. Back when aviation in general was a lot more dangerous.
gullivera 2 weeks ago
great sound! damn cOoL!
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damn!!! that is music!!!!!
zayace09 4 months ago 3
really nice.... listening to the beautiful ''wine'' of the engines brings back lots of memories.....had to ''favorite'' this one to my list.... and as for the ''memories'', my father worked for United Airlines [BDL] from March 12, 1962 to September 27, 1997, so DC-10's were definitely on ''the list''.... thanks for posting this.
viperessprincess 4 months ago
@viperessprincess no kidding, I work for AA now im 24... I wish they still had maintenance at BDL as I'm from Connecticut :/.... living in Fort Worth now
john2k24 4 months ago
why do dc10s have 3 engines
water892 4 months ago
@water892
There are many reasons. For example it´s weight, the operation range or safety reasons. It is to complicated to explain it in one comment only. But if you are interested, I could send you a PM with a more precise answer to your question. By the way, the DC-10 is not the only three-hole jet in history. There is also the MD-11, Boeing 727, Lockheed L-1011 Tristar, Tupolev TU-154 and some more.
Slaterator 4 months ago
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water892 4 months ago
@water892
Wooow, you are posting your e-mail adress here on YT ? You´d better delete your answer pretty fast quick ! Otherwise you´ll drown in spam-mails ! I´ll wright you via YT. But not tonight. I live in Germany. It´s 1:30 am here and therefore I have to go to bed. But you´ll get your answer. Cheers to Canada !
Slaterator 4 months ago
@Slaterator ok cool
water892 4 months ago
@water892
So they have two left when one on the wing blows off.
LS1Heli 4 months ago
@LS1Heli that is, provided, it doesn't sever all the hydraulic lines ;-) >.<
JMG717 2 months ago
@water892 Check the type's history. The original 1966 AA request was for a wide body twin engine carrying 250 pax non-stop from coast to coast, but when Dougkas tried to interest other airlines, both United and Eastern said that two engines wasn't comfortable for them for their over the Rockies and overwater flights, so Douglas convinced AA to go along with the 3 engine idea, which would facilitate future development of the still unborn heavy version (future series 20 and 30)
sobelou 3 months ago
Why you dont hear that buzzing noise by boeing 777 ?
MrRevolution53 5 months ago
my first ride, as a 5 year old..was on a DC-10 Houston to San Angelo and your absolutely right about that sound..very unique indeed! Heart Pounding waiting to get airborne.
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@Dremple My first ride on a plane... i was 1month old XD every year i'm on a plane.. i love flying!
Mr1lk3r 4 months ago
my first ride, as a 5 year old..was on a DC-10 Houston to San Angelo and your absolutely right about that sound..very unique!
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great aircraft
aspiringdrummer17 6 months ago
I wonder why on the suggestions over to the right, they are all about airplanes except for 1 video of a woman breast feeding a baby?
mph4701 6 months ago 4
@mph4701 Haha good point...
AV8R4HM 6 months ago
Awesome takeoff.....nice sounds of the turbofan engine as heard.... BTW..I was in a DC10 on 2/24/85 taking off from NYC's JFK airport...and was right behind the Concorde SST jet....((when they were still flying too))... I was on my way down to beloved Ixtapa, Mexico..a trip I'll never forget....of course..camcorders and certainly YouTube didn't exist way back then....wish they had, though..for I would have gotten a nice video of the Concorde jet taking off right in front of us.
tstormmoulton1 7 months ago
wow it took this plane 50 seconds to get airborne!!!
ghettoperson257 7 months ago
Search:
A330-300 Copenhagen-Chicago Part 2 Takeoff
4 min. Now THAT is music!
joepatroni77 7 months ago
youtube.com/watch?v=okObceikB4A
4 min in!
joepatroni77 7 months ago
The L-1011 had a higher pitch from the RR engines, I liked the 1011 better, but still liked the DC-10. Lockheed also made the constellation, Howard Hughes designed it and fly it and owned TWA, also was instrumental in the design of the Lockheed L-1011 envisioning wide-bodied aircraft. 1st to serve coffee and inflight movies, also his ideas!
howardcod4 7 months ago
@howardcod4 ~~>Excellent comparison between the DC-10 and the L-1011...they do look alike...but the #2 engine is more like the 727's #2-engine on the L-1011's... I also remember the Lockheed Constellations....in fact..I was in one when flying the Eastern Shuttle from LaGuardia airport to Boston Logan...I've just turned 10 at the time....Obama was just 5 at the time too. Excellent reminiscings of the in-flight deluxe meals, movies and so much more....when ''flying the friendly skies'' cheaply
tstormmoulton1 7 months ago
@tstormmoulton1 Thanks, I also think the 1011 was more attractive with the #2 engine not sticking out the back like it did on the DC-10. So true re; the 727, another great bygone aircraft yet not a "heavy". Very cool you flew on the "connie" I did on all the greats including the 707, DC-8. My fav was the L-1011 and now it is the B-777 as it to me is the closest to the 1011, size and seat conf. and sound of engines. Never been a fan of the Airbus' but the A-340 is long and wide. Miss those days!
howardcod4 7 months ago
@howardcod4 ~~~~>So good to hear from you, ''Howardcod''....Excellent reminiscings of all those early days of the jetliner days as well as the ''Connie''... I remember I was in a PanAm 707 JET flying from Montevideo, Uruguay on 1/29/64 inside a severe Tstorm((summer down there))...to Buenos Aires..then flew nonstop to JFK airport the next day....Perhaps you remember the day you first flew in any jetliner and/or inside a Connie or electra Propjet....love to hear that, my new friend:-)
tstormmoulton1 7 months ago
It really is that much quieter then an L-1011
TechForThought 7 months ago
@menthol5 that was not the dc-10 with the cargo door problem it was the 747
salsa1130 7 months ago
@salsa1130 both of them had the same cargo door problem because both of them used the same flawed design
marknute 7 months ago
I wish they had not ignored the cargo door locking problem. It ruined the DC-10 reputation. The DC-10 was really well engineered except for that.
menthol5 8 months ago
@Jorgeroots So what? I LOVE the DC-10!!! The fact that it's a killer airplane makes it even MORE exciting!!! There's absolutely NOTHING scary about flying in DC-10s!!! I've flown in lots of them!! You're just a f**king paranoid SOB!!!
ford9572 8 months ago
what airline was it???
ghettoperson257 8 months ago
havent you ever noticed but its always the good looking planes that have flaws like DC-10, A380, 747, and Dash 8 but uglier planes like L-1011 are safer
ghettoperson257 8 months ago 2
@ghettoperson257 the L-1011 is nowhere near ugly
ghostgaffdeck08 8 months ago
@ghostgaffdeck08 well i cant get used to its nose
ghettoperson257 7 months ago
@ghettoperson257 To me the A380 is an amazing aircraft, but not as beautifull as the 747 - the classics with the small hump look even mor elegant to me.
ua462hd 8 months ago
@ua462hd yes that is very true the 747 is one of those aircraft that i can get used to its nose it is a beautiful airplane
ghettoperson257 7 months ago
douglas dc10 is a killer airplane, i never fly in a dc10, scary !
Jorgeroots 8 months ago
I don't understand why aircraft can't be loud....a loud aircraft is usually one where you know the engines are still running and you're not falling out of the sky :) I remember when this video first came out three years ago. I rediscovered aircraft after flying in a Bombardier CRJ-700.
redoctober90 8 months ago
@redoctober90 You'll hear some loud aircraft again if the pulse-detonation engine is ever perfected. Be careful what you wish for!
Starfish99100 8 months ago
what year did you film this in???
MrTootdog123 8 months ago
Dem! Sounds like JT9D... Is it??
Dzyuba3101 9 months ago
@Dzyuba3101 no its a GE CF6
ghettoperson257 8 months ago
not a good camera!!!!! and sorry but i hate DC10
juanda893061 9 months ago
@juanda893061 What a worthless comment...
rotator1471 8 months ago
@rotator1471 it's just what I think shut up.
juanda893061 8 months ago
not a good camera!!!!!
juanda893061 9 months ago
I love how at some airports large planes have to make u'ys.
randomstuff5464 9 months ago
It's sad that most of these planes(the ones that are still operating)are used as cargo haulers.
PlaneAndTVtechfan 9 months ago
looks like it took off from philadelphia
ghettoperson257 9 months ago
i love hearing when engines make the buzzsaw noise!!!
ghettoperson257 9 months ago
what airline?
wizzair1313 9 months ago
good one
boeing757200american 9 months ago
What is the change in noise at 2:44?
jmkpns 10 months ago
@jmkpns A minor reduction in power...changing from "takeoff thrust" to "climb thrust"
w5pda 9 months ago
Music to my ears,,,,,,,,,,,yes definitely!!!!
Great video........love the sound of those engines
manitogata 10 months ago
I love it!
DanielJWeiner 10 months ago
good sounds!
twin6otter 10 months ago
sounds alittle turboprop...ish
thurston4mor 11 months ago
Damn, that turbofan spoolin got me all giggidy n stuff.
motokid032 1 year ago
Thanks for the explanation of that buzzing noise! I always thought it was some gears or some shit being annoying somewhere.
SodomGomorrahWaDC 1 year ago
I was on a DC-10 going to and from Kuwait via ATA airlines. Why was this model considered accident prone? Was it just design flaws they had to work out? I'm referring to all the accidents in the 70's.
MrGenXer 1 year ago
12 tree huggers didn't like the buzz saw noise!
handsfan 1 year ago 2
was that an omni air international?
coster993 1 year ago
I love these planes. These had more problems then other jet liners.
LandRoverWay23 1 year ago
Still say you cant beat the sound of the Trents on the 777-200. WhhhooooOOOOO!!!
kiwibelt 1 year ago
I grew up on DC-10's (WAL) - I really miss the sound of a 10 on takeoff. Thanks for the upload.
boxlourdesigns 1 year ago
☞ ☞☞☞ If Only This was:"UNITED"!! And Channel:"9".!! ★★AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL AUDIO TO LISTON TO YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! ★★
PETE707320 1 year ago
I am shitting on the floor
MrCliff12341 1 year ago
oops ..make that aeroplane !!
antboy158 1 year ago
interesting looking areoplane.....that iconic 'engine on the tail' look ! Good vid.
antboy158 1 year ago
@HVACKID94
FedEx uses quite a few of them still.
chendrik 1 year ago
very quiet.. get on a 777 and it's noisey
brkitdwn 1 year ago
The best sound have the a 340
DroidMaster207 1 year ago
so true, It was a beautiful plane in its day..
sophiaelizabella 1 year ago
My favorite aircraft gone. In one year all of them are gone. :(
wizzair1313 1 year ago
@HVACKID94 I live near the Indianapolis International Airport and there are about 10 DC10's or MD11's that land there every week night and usually takeoff within a few hours of their landing. They are used for Fedex Air Cargo, but for national cargo mostly. Beautiful airplane, sounds fantastic as well.
gripfreak89 1 year ago
GREAT clip!!!
matthiashaenni 1 year ago
@HVACKID94 Yes, the DC10 is still on active service. You just won't find too many out there because they're expensive to maintain. Charter companies like this one and World Airways keep them in service.
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Why is it expensive to maintain, and how does it differs from a more modern airliner?
yahweh18 1 year ago
@yahweh18 Newer engines have better fuel consumption rates,and are less noisy. Additionally, newer designs have digitalized cockpits, including fuel management systems and therefore can fly with only two cockpit crew instead of three. So all that means less expense for the airline. But this plane is still far from a museum piece, and is an excellent freighter.
sobelou 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Several cargo companies use them as well as MD11's
c53204 1 year ago
@cirnol Youre absolutely right too. The spruce goose was proof of the fact. And no it couldn't lol
CivSi02 1 year ago
@SkyWestCRJPilot I only speak what I know, which judging by your name, would be very little compared to you.
CivSi02 1 year ago
@cirnol Lol the F-4. The joke around school was you could get a barn door to fly if you put a J79 on the back. Nah it was probably a really fun ride.
CivSi02 1 year ago
I remember flying on the DC-10 a few times back in the 1980s!
nenblom 1 year ago
@cirnol Which that aircraft uses both. Actually isn't it 3? You'll have the JT9D, CF-6, and the RB-211 from RR
CivSi02 1 year ago
@cirnol I believe the 40 series used JT9D's correct?
CivSi02 1 year ago
good plane l-1011 the best
neweast1 1 year ago
@DarkKnightBob1o1 Ok dude that was one incident. That was traced back to a defective fan disk, which was cast at the Alcoa company. Something happened during manufacturing to where a stress fracture was caused and this was confirmed during a dye penetrant inspection post crash. This is not a type design failure, just a manufacturing defect. They happen.
CivSi02 1 year ago
Your right! I'm sorry I forgot about all of that. Thankyou for correcting me on that!
airnicholai 1 year ago
An airplane takes off anywhere between 150 to 200mph
airnicholai 1 year ago
@airnicholai not always true. The takeoff speed is dependent on a/c size, flap setting, weight, aspect ratio, etc. Just saying 150-200mph isn't good enough
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Well, that an airplane, such as the DC10, takes off between 150-200 mph is as true as it can be. Because it is a general statement. Not a specific one. If you ask a pilot at which speed the aircraft takes off he flies, he will always reply "between x and y mph/kts/kmh" (and explain the dependant factors), unless you ask him at which speed the airplane took off today whilst you are in the cockpit.
AirSimming 1 year ago
@AirSimming research V-speeds and it should give you a formula for figuring V1, Vr, and V2
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Well, I could start to talk about all the other v-speeds as well just to suggest people here how smart I am. But it doesn't matter in relation to the comment that an airplane takes off between 150-200 mph. Because it does take off between 150-200 mph. At which speed exactly has to be determined by the cockpit crew, not by laymen in the passenger cabin, in front of a TV or at the Youtube comments section. For those people, and generally, 150-200 mph is a valid range of information ;)
AirSimming 1 year ago
@AirSimming Yeah you could start to talk about all the other V-speeds to suggest to others how narcissistic you are as well. It isn't like I went to school for this or anything. Are you suggesting that every aircraft has takeoff speeds that high as well?
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Narcissistic is a true term. We're talking about aircraft such as the DC-10. I guess any halfway educated person knows that the comment of airnicholai wasn't related to something like a Cessna 152 for example ;)
So let's take the DC-10 as an example for V2: the range of V2 for the DC-10 goes from 122 kts (140 mph) to 172 kts (198 mph). airnicholai was quite close with his numbers, which were meant to give a general example, not a specific speed taking all related factors into account.
AirSimming 1 year ago
@AirSimming I not once stated that airnicholai was wrong. And yes, it was a general example. But the original question was "What is the takeoff speed on an airplane". Assuming he meant this particular aircraft, which yes, that is a very, very good example. But lets not get people confused here. Not everyone that watches this is educated in aeronautics, aviation, what have you. Different aircraft have different requirements. That's all I meant, and not to get into a pissing match.
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Yes, different aircraft have different requirements of course. I didn't say you were wrong by the way. All I say is that the comment of airnicholai fits to such kind of aircraft like seen in your video :)
AirSimming 1 year ago
how fast is an airplane going when it takes off?
MyNevermindme 1 year ago
Why would any airline want to use a DC-10? They're so fuel hungry, noisy and uncomfortable and old. A 767-400ER is a much better replacement.
rags015 1 year ago 2
@rags015 I don't know where you get your information from, but yes, as far as efficiency is concerned, the 400ER is perfect. Quieter? Doubtful, because the optional powerplant was a CF6, which is what powers this aircraft. Fuel hungry, most likely, you have 3 powerplants to feed here, but as someone said in an earlier post, the max ramp weight is insane on these things, and they are very, very safe, contrary to what others may say. Any problems they had, have long since been fixed.
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 And the Ramp weight is what made the DC-10 such a winner. OK comparative to new aircraft there may be a higher burn rate but...when it came to the ability to carrry payload, without weight restrictions...you couldn't beat this aircraft. Even out of EWR with it's harsh restriction on Runway 11-29, you could get this bird flying within 25% of it's MTOW. Though there was one problem, that was keeping the 10 within it's COG limits when full because it was so nose heavy.
tonybklyn 1 year ago
@tonybklyn And I thank you for the backup. Its good to meet educated people. Yeah CG would be an issue. Haven't compute that in forever lol. It's a % of MAC, I know that much. Where are you an A&P?
CivSi02 1 year ago
is it omni air international based in atlanta?
blackmetalleon03 1 year ago
@blackmetalleon03 yes it is
CivSi02 1 year ago
is it omni air international based in atlanta
blackmetalleon03 1 year ago
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roadracer1593 1 year ago
@roadracer1593 so is that why they still fly regularly to this day?
CivSi02 1 year ago
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roadracer1593 1 year ago
@roadracer1593 Erroneous on all accounts. Are you an aircraft engineer? You speak as if you have no idea what you're talking about. You are obviously not educated very well in aviation. If they weren't safe to fly, then aviation authorities (FAA, EASA, etc) would NOT let these birds in the air. The incidents you're talking about were due to design flaws that were fixed long ago.
CivSi02 1 year ago
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roadracer1593 1 year ago
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roadracer1593 1 year ago
@roadracer1593 Never in my life will I ever hear a more ignorant comment than what came spewing from your mouth. Who are you to call me a communist? There are people laying their lives on the line so dipshits like you can say whatever you want. Does it feel good? You are obviously not educated, and your actions show it. And threatening our commander in chief isn't bright. Big brother does look at these comments, and they can find out who you are. All it takes is one phone call
CivSi02 1 year ago
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roadracer1593 1 year ago
@roadracer1593 And don't ever discuss politics unless you know EXACTLY what you are talking about
CivSi02 1 year ago
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roadracer1593 1 year ago
@roadracer1593 LOL just keep it up bro! Military too eh? Guess what? Me too. You're a disgrace. I actually served. You probably weren't even in. Communist? Really? Keep replying, because this is my only comic relief, you may be laughing at me, but everyone else is laughing.....at you
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 I've been reading his post as well, and without a doubt, this guy has NO aviation experience, other than maybe watching news clips, or airline commercials. Because if he did, and he knew what a wonderful workhorse the 10 was and is, he wouldn't say these things. Worse yet...LOL, he's arguing with a well knowing person, which only makes him look just that much more ridiculously stupid.
tonybklyn 1 year ago
@tonybklyn I went to A&P school in Clearwater, FL. Unfortunately, because I had extremely hard family issues and sets of military orders, I couldn't finish, and the school wouldn't excuse my missed time. I miss the school dearly. Finished powerplant study, and made it through sheet metal fabrication part of airframe. If I had the money to do it over again, I would in a heartbeat
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Well that sucks to hear about the A&P school but really if i were you i wouldnt give a shit about family id ignore everything and enjoy my life doing what i want who caring.
TheWarPlanet 1 year ago
@TheWarPlanet family was a small part of the issue there. I also had to take leave of absence due to military training as well. And the family circumstances were different, which shall not be shared on here. Trust me, I miss it terribly.
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 yeah you cant do anything about the military once you get called in.
TheWarPlanet 1 year ago
@CivSi02 so do it if you want poor job security, and like working nights, weekends, holidays.
cesar333 1 year ago
@cesar333 but that could be the case with any job. I will agree that the A&P job market isn't easy. It's every man for himself out there. In my area, there was virtually nothing. Nothing at PEMCO, Avant air, anywhere. It's extremely discouraging for new graduates, and it is something the school will lie to you about, saying that the market is extremely good....maybe in other states or areas. The school will lie to get your money.
CivSi02 1 year ago
Great video. Excellent audio quality!
Dimension150 1 year ago
Is it me or do the engines on the DC-10 look like they droop toward the ground somewhat? And does anyone know why that is??
SteveB801 1 year ago
@SteveB801 I don't think they droop towards the ground. It's probably the camera angle.
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 thats so if the engine pylon locking pins fail the engine would fall under the wing and not over it.
alnilam66 1 year ago
@SteveB801
engines on DC10 do tilt downward to compensate for higher nose while on ground/ once in air they level off/
pittibullie 10 months ago
is oai a privae company ?
whatstheprob1932 1 year ago
@whatstheprob1932 OAE is a charter company, say a plane breaks down, the airline can charter one of OAE's planes and continue the flight, may be a day late. but meh..
wowdude999 1 year ago
@wowdude999 Ok, thanks that was helpful :)
whatstheprob1932 1 year ago
@DarkKnightBob1o1 Amazingly at least this one got off the ground without loosing an engine and barrel rolling down the runway....!!!
noodlebike 1 year ago
Wow, thats alot of power and noise, you can even see the low pressure fog forming before the fans, gotta love old school turbines... ^^
MikeZEvil 1 year ago
A&P's do it better 'cause they get 'em up faster and keep 'em up longer. ;)
Hawaiifive01 1 year ago
I will never forget this sound. I had a few trips to the USA, and I always flew with a DC-10 ot the Northwest Airline.
SirRenfield 1 year ago
Indeed, those engines sound sweet.
uncaringbear 1 year ago
@DarkKnightBob1o1
Shame you don't know what you're talking about.
uncaringbear 1 year ago
i agree with the title music to my ears. :)
fishamstervideoz 1 year ago
How did they retrieve this footage from the crash debris I wonder?
theweekthatis 1 year ago
@theweekthatis Very good LOL....!!!! Better off on a Tristar if you want to live!
noodlebike 1 year ago
that plane looks and sounds good....but its not a safe airplane
TheHockey14000 1 year ago
@TheHockey14000 Even its big brother the MD11 was no safer. In fact I think its even more dangerous with dodgy software causing stability problems during landing. Many ended up upside down on fire.
noodlebike 1 year ago
@noodlebike Because nobody ever lost their life on a Tristar - and nobody has ever died on a much more modern Airbus have they??
I love your use of "Many ended up upside down on fire" - that'll be two then - and precisely what "software" caused either of those crashes? Despite incidents involving the MD11, only two and not "many" were involved in this way. However, thanks for sharing your limited understanding of Douglas trijets.
Dc10Series30 1 year ago
@Dc10Series30 there were three major l-1011 incident involing easter, saudiaand delta. the saudia was on the grounf and started when some people decided they wanted to brew their own tea in the aisile before take off. other than that the l1011 was one of the finest aircradt to ever grace the skies.
neweast1 1 year ago
@Dc10Series30 Eh let em live in their own ignorance broheem. We know the truth
CivSi02 1 year ago
PERUVIAN AIRLINES IS THE BEST AIRLINE IN PERU
Carlos000000000100 1 year ago
Wonderful video tape, great sound!! Well done!
Henninway 1 year ago
WOW!! ;)
alicanalievic 1 year ago
Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
huvander 1 year ago
What's the take of speed? Looked like it was heavy. How many gallons of fuel does it carry? I'm thinking 40,000 gallons. Thanks!
landman1973 1 year ago
@landman1973 I'm not a pilot. But here is my most educated guess at it. Takeoff speed is determined by a lot of factors. Wing flap settings, weight, runway distance, among a few others. All things being good, you have three speeds to satisfy. V1, Vr, and V2. V1 is the decision speed, can I take off safely if one engine fails or abort? Vr is the speed at which the pilot pulls back on the yoke to raise the nose. V2 is the speed at which the wheels leave the ground and you're flying.
CivSi02 1 year ago
@landman1973 The DC10-30 series has a fuel capacity of 36,350 gallons of fuel, which can propel the aircraft a distance of 6,220 statute miles approximately, and we were heavy that day. A full aircraft with military personnel on board along with fuel and full cargo holds
CivSi02 1 year ago
@iloveyourstory Electronic equipment like laptops, cell phones, etc. that send signals can affect radio communication in the flight deck. Most cameras like battery operated digital cameras are generally not an issue. However it's always best to check with your flight attendant if you are unsure.
Chrisrex83 1 year ago
It looks like 9 people dont have speakers on there computer :-)
speedbird7471 1 year ago
Cool that is an intersting jet noise i could listin to it all day!
airplanetime 1 year ago
oh man i had an orgasm !!!
Awesome !!!
KRY030HModesto 1 year ago
awesome sound :) which airline?
Zlin0035 1 year ago
@Zlin0035 Omni Air International
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 Do you know what tail number? And this plane uses CF6-5C2 engines. Prolly pushes around 50,000 each.
6V92TA 1 year ago
@6V92TA I didn't grab a tail number. It was dark when we loaded originally. And btw, nice name. Love those 2 strokes! I love the 6V53's myself :)
CivSi02 1 year ago
@CivSi02 thanks man! the 6V92s rock!!
6V92TA 1 year ago
@6V92TA Have you worked for DD?
CivSi02 1 year ago