IM a fan of Smiths. I dont care for tom too much but to say he sucks is way outta line. Lets see you make it to the olympics in anything. better yet, go wrestle Smith right now and see if he doesnt whoop that ass
You guys are forgetting that Brands was still a young college wrestler here, while Smith was already an Olympian and international competitor. At this time, yeah Smith outclassed him with his experience. This match may have been different if it happened in 1996 when Brands caught up to Smith's level of experience. Either way, both are two of the best of all time. I don't understand why people have to say one is the best and the other sucks.
@smith521 Did you not know that Smith was an accomplished international wrestler. He was a Sr national champion and goodwill games gold medalist before he ever won a NCAA title. Who ever beat John Smith like this when he was young? Nobody! EVER! He lost a few matches here and there, but nobody ever dominated Smith like he did Brands in this match.
@karsseboomh22 really brand can't touch that? Brands won a gold in 1996 so yeah he can touch that a little bit. Smith may be better but Brands is no slouch.
Dude, you say the same thing every time you comment. John Smith was in no way, scared of Fried. John Fisher gave him a tough time at the trials that year, but Fried was never on Smith's level. Brands sored a few takedowns, but was still beaten by ten points. Smith was 100-5 in his international freestyle career, and 80-0 against American competition. That's a 180-5 career mark. Smith and Brands college records are almost identical, but Smith set himself apart in freestyle.
freestyle is all takedowns, if you add in the different rules between collegiate and freestyle, it's a totally different situation. I'd like to have seen brands and smith wrestle with collegiate rules, I think brands would have taken smith.
F-you to anyone bashing Tom Brands. He had 1 pt scored on him at one of toughest weights ever at olympics. 5 world champions at the weight in 1996. And Smith kept Al Fried out of 1992 trials because his own athlete was his biggest threat. Promised fried an exemption (like Colat got in 1996) to get in trials bracket. Tom is too legit for tactics like that. All you know it alls should look into that one.
those who only look at JS beating TB...yah okay just like les gutches beat cael sanderson. just saying. can't compare someone who doesn't train FS ...
well, well, well. Tom brands and John Smith tied in a dual last week 15-15. That means all minor decisions, no bonus points, and even teams. Lets just see how they finish up this year at NCAA's to see who has the coaching edge. The proof as they say will be in the pudding
John Smith did lose in his prime, to antonio scalachi, from Italy, which is no powerhouse. By contrast, Tom Brands had 5 former world champions in his weight in 1996. No shit John Smith is a warrior; just not the same coach as tom Brands. Hell, Smith had to keep Al Fried out of the 1992 trials to ensure him not being upset by one of his own athletes. Just watch their 1988 us open match. Al was 16, and took smith down 3-5 times. Tom brands would never do that. REAL TALK!
Smith did not lose to an Italian, he lost to a Cuban(Reinoso). If you watch Smith vs. the German /Russian/Iranian( '92 Olympics) you will see he was a warrior, even though he was sick prior to the games, hindering training etc.Smith won 6 straight World level titles; plenty dominant during his reign. Smith was able to come back and win the '92 Gold was b/c Reinoso got beat by the Russian( who Smith tf'd). Brands/McIlravy lost to wrestlers ( semis) who had not lost( Igali/Dabir).
If anyone thinks Tom Brands could have ever beaten John Smith they just don't know wrestling. The only reason Brands won Olympic gold is because Smith retired.
Jurom7 is clueless. Tom Brands is only a 3 time NCAA champ ( 1 more than smith), and Olympic champion (Tom only gave up 1 point en route to toughestgold medal ever; with 5 world champions in it), and has won 2 coach of the years and 3 NCAA titles as coach in just the beginning of his tenure at Iowa. Sorry but John Smith lost to an Italian during one of his olympic gold medals (not very dominant). If the had the same rules in 2000; both Lincoln and Terry Brands may have been Olympic champions
@TheFredlima Well Tom Brands only won one world championship John Smith 5 Tom Brands 1 gold medal John Smith 2. They're both great wrestlers. Please don't get all petty with these stupid stats. To say John Smith wasn't very dominant is plain stupid
@TheFredlima dude you're clueless. Okay Brands have 1 more NCAA title than Smith. Whooptie effing doo. By that logic, Smith has 4 more world level titles than Brands, so Smith wins that argument. Brands has 3 NCAA titles as coach; Smith has 5, so Smith win's that argument again. Yes Smith did lose to Reinoso but Smith wrestled in two Olympics to Brands' one so of course there is a higher chance of losing. And sidenote: Smith in 1992 was dealing with a staph infection as well and still won.
I had a chance to wrestle against John Smith when he was training for the 1996 Olympics. His speed was absolutely unbelievable. He was on your leg before you could even react. It was embarrassing to even be on the same mat as him.
@sanitary103 Yeah, for sure 1992. I was going into my junior year in high school and wrestling at the Augsburg Intensive Camp. John worked our legs so hard that everyone was walking down the stairs backwards to alleviate the pain. Man I'm old.
When you look at this video it's easy to get caught up with Smith's takedown mastery. However his par tere work was just amazing. He's not just turning anyone here at will. Brands is\was a tough hombre.
that wasn't Tom Brands giving up, that was John Smith using leverage to break Brands grip on his leg. Brands is 2 damn tough 2 give up, which 5:44 is proof of
To knissel: Tom is not a more successful coach. John Smith has coached more National Champions, All-Americans, Team National Champions, Olympic and World Team members. Not be mean but are you clueless or have you been invovled in wrestling for only two years.
Brands was still young, and Smith was at his peak, Smith was a TWO TIME OLYMPIC GOLD winner. VERY, very RARE. In the Olympics he totally dominated, and so did Tom Brands in '96 at the same weight. Smith was absolutely unstoppable in for about 8 yrs in both college and international
@tookfirst Smith was an accomplished international wrestler while he was still in College. Who ever beat John Smith like this when he was young? Nobody! He lost a few matches here and there, but nobody ever dominated Smith like he did Brands in this match.
Tom is not a more successful coach. John Smith has coached more National Champions, All-Americans, Team National Champions, Olympic and World Team members. Not be mean but are you clueless or have you been invovled in wrestling for only two years.
Smith has won 5 NCAA titles in 18 seasons at Oklahoma State. Brands has 6 years of head coaching experience. Brands has won 3 NCAA titles in 6 years as a coach.
At the time of this match, Brands had just completed his senior season in college wrestling. He certainly had not been training or competing in freestyle with much consistency. Not to take anything from Smith, but these two great Olympic Champions never saw each other when both were in their prime.
John Smith is one of the greatest wrestlers ever. Possibly better than Dan Gable. Gable was just crazy, while John Smith was a technique kind of guy. John Smith completely owned Brands in this match
great vid. both amazing wrestlers for sure, but i think the real question is where the hell is keith richards?? he is in the finals for gods sake!! did that kid ever show up to wrestle?
well it was a hell of a wrestling match u have tom brands an olypic champion head coach at iowa then u have john smith 6 time world champion, very good records both of them r very good,im a huge fan of both of them
I was flying from Dallas to Okla City late one night. the flight attendant was giving her usual safety-features speech about the emergency exit. As I always do, I looked to see who was sitting at the emergency exits and sitting in one of the seats was John Smith. I told my wife sitting next to me, "If that guy can't rip that door off, no one can!"
it doesn't seem like John Smith was at his prime. He was gassing out towards the end giving up 2 shots at the end by taking sloppy ones. but yes John Smith is pretty sound on his feet I've watched his 1989 matches and he never ran out gas.
John Smith had a staff infection during both the 1992 Trials and Games. He said that he would get tired after drilling for "only fifteen minutes" He preformed very well for not being in optimal shape.
Smith would have owned him anytime. Smith did all the work through the whole match. Would have been the same result in '96 is Smith had choose to compete.
Wow, Smith was able to shoot on Tommy all day long. This is the 2nd worse I've seen Tom get beat. Randy Lewis pinned Tom pretty quickly when Tom was younger - that's the worst I've ever seen Tom get beat.
i went to his wrestling camp i learned so much from this man
562ole 2 weeks ago
jeez smith took it to him.
dbfan2scfan 2 months ago
240p..... we meet again
lenford10 3 months ago
IM a fan of Smiths. I dont care for tom too much but to say he sucks is way outta line. Lets see you make it to the olympics in anything. better yet, go wrestle Smith right now and see if he doesnt whoop that ass
mnight207 4 months ago
You guys are forgetting that Brands was still a young college wrestler here, while Smith was already an Olympian and international competitor. At this time, yeah Smith outclassed him with his experience. This match may have been different if it happened in 1996 when Brands caught up to Smith's level of experience. Either way, both are two of the best of all time. I don't understand why people have to say one is the best and the other sucks.
smith521 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@smith521 Did you not know that Smith was an accomplished international wrestler. He was a Sr national champion and goodwill games gold medalist before he ever won a NCAA title. Who ever beat John Smith like this when he was young? Nobody! EVER! He lost a few matches here and there, but nobody ever dominated Smith like he did Brands in this match.
allie1love 4 months ago
Those two low singles Smith hit in the begining were phenomenal.
zjeo2 6 months ago
I wanna know what happened to Keith Richards
triumph3dx 7 months ago
@triumph3dx lol, I'll ask him and let you know.
'
allie1love 4 months ago
@triumph3dx lmao. that announcer was pissed.
FraldinhoBJJ 3 weeks ago
Al fried
PULGACOYOTE 7 months ago
its so old!
libyalibya1996 9 months ago
i like the girl bending over the whole time when i got a little bored shed tune me back in haha
dallaswoodbam 10 months ago
@dallaswoodbam lol me too!
libyalibya1996 9 months ago
john smith is a far better wrestler than brand hands down...HE WON THE GOLD TWICE! brand could never touch that..period
karsseboomh22 10 months ago
@karsseboomh22 really brand can't touch that? Brands won a gold in 1996 so yeah he can touch that a little bit. Smith may be better but Brands is no slouch.
Kuzma567 4 months ago
Dude, you say the same thing every time you comment. John Smith was in no way, scared of Fried. John Fisher gave him a tough time at the trials that year, but Fried was never on Smith's level. Brands sored a few takedowns, but was still beaten by ten points. Smith was 100-5 in his international freestyle career, and 80-0 against American competition. That's a 180-5 career mark. Smith and Brands college records are almost identical, but Smith set himself apart in freestyle.
HighHeadJim 10 months ago
@HighHeadJim
freestyle is all takedowns, if you add in the different rules between collegiate and freestyle, it's a totally different situation. I'd like to have seen brands and smith wrestle with collegiate rules, I think brands would have taken smith.
mezzkath 10 months ago
F-you to anyone bashing Tom Brands. He had 1 pt scored on him at one of toughest weights ever at olympics. 5 world champions at the weight in 1996. And Smith kept Al Fried out of 1992 trials because his own athlete was his biggest threat. Promised fried an exemption (like Colat got in 1996) to get in trials bracket. Tom is too legit for tactics like that. All you know it alls should look into that one.
TheFredlima 11 months ago
dang that was pretty cool
shadowsfallidiot 11 months ago
those who only look at JS beating TB...yah okay just like les gutches beat cael sanderson. just saying. can't compare someone who doesn't train FS ...
eezerik 11 months ago
well, well, well. Tom brands and John Smith tied in a dual last week 15-15. That means all minor decisions, no bonus points, and even teams. Lets just see how they finish up this year at NCAA's to see who has the coaching edge. The proof as they say will be in the pudding
TheFredlima 1 year ago
John Smith did lose in his prime, to antonio scalachi, from Italy, which is no powerhouse. By contrast, Tom Brands had 5 former world champions in his weight in 1996. No shit John Smith is a warrior; just not the same coach as tom Brands. Hell, Smith had to keep Al Fried out of the 1992 trials to ensure him not being upset by one of his own athletes. Just watch their 1988 us open match. Al was 16, and took smith down 3-5 times. Tom brands would never do that. REAL TALK!
TheFredlima 1 year ago
ahaha damm that girl taking pics has got a nice ohh assss .
sskkeet27 1 year ago
@sskkeet27 Was there a wrestling match taking place?
mikemcq10 1 year ago
@mikemcq10
Lmao ididnt even see the whole thing. i seen til she came on then i just watched her ass
sskkeet27 1 year ago
FUCK IOWA STYLE
mikelovestacos 1 year ago
Comment removed
RAW241JROCK 1 year ago
@ TheFredlima
Smith did not lose to an Italian, he lost to a Cuban(Reinoso). If you watch Smith vs. the German /Russian/Iranian( '92 Olympics) you will see he was a warrior, even though he was sick prior to the games, hindering training etc.Smith won 6 straight World level titles; plenty dominant during his reign. Smith was able to come back and win the '92 Gold was b/c Reinoso got beat by the Russian( who Smith tf'd). Brands/McIlravy lost to wrestlers ( semis) who had not lost( Igali/Dabir).
RAW241JROCK 1 year ago
If anyone thinks Tom Brands could have ever beaten John Smith they just don't know wrestling. The only reason Brands won Olympic gold is because Smith retired.
fredb0714 1 year ago
oh and, yes, DAN GABLE IS THE GREATEST EVER
TheFredlima 1 year ago
@TheFredlima Bahahahaha! You are too funny!
HighHeadJim 11 months ago
Jurom7 is clueless. Tom Brands is only a 3 time NCAA champ ( 1 more than smith), and Olympic champion (Tom only gave up 1 point en route to toughestgold medal ever; with 5 world champions in it), and has won 2 coach of the years and 3 NCAA titles as coach in just the beginning of his tenure at Iowa. Sorry but John Smith lost to an Italian during one of his olympic gold medals (not very dominant). If the had the same rules in 2000; both Lincoln and Terry Brands may have been Olympic champions
TheFredlima 1 year ago
@TheFredlima Well Tom Brands only won one world championship John Smith 5 Tom Brands 1 gold medal John Smith 2. They're both great wrestlers. Please don't get all petty with these stupid stats. To say John Smith wasn't very dominant is plain stupid
ironhead341 1 year ago
@TheFredlima dude you're clueless. Okay Brands have 1 more NCAA title than Smith. Whooptie effing doo. By that logic, Smith has 4 more world level titles than Brands, so Smith wins that argument. Brands has 3 NCAA titles as coach; Smith has 5, so Smith win's that argument again. Yes Smith did lose to Reinoso but Smith wrestled in two Olympics to Brands' one so of course there is a higher chance of losing. And sidenote: Smith in 1992 was dealing with a staph infection as well and still won.
sanitary103 1 year ago
The girl taking pics on the edge of the mat has a great ass
paver1surf1 1 year ago 2
I'll drink 2 that lol
SuperUrbanite 1 year ago
@MrNOEFFINWAY lol, spoken like somone who has nothing intelligent to day.
marcef100m 1 year ago
I had a chance to wrestle against John Smith when he was training for the 1996 Olympics. His speed was absolutely unbelievable. He was on your leg before you could even react. It was embarrassing to even be on the same mat as him.
mikefeetus 1 year ago 2
@mikefeetus do you mean 1992? the man retired after Barcelona..no way he was training in 1996, not that I recall
sanitary103 1 year ago
@sanitary103 Yeah, for sure 1992. I was going into my junior year in high school and wrestling at the Augsburg Intensive Camp. John worked our legs so hard that everyone was walking down the stairs backwards to alleviate the pain. Man I'm old.
mikefeetus 1 year ago
When you look at this video it's easy to get caught up with Smith's takedown mastery. However his par tere work was just amazing. He's not just turning anyone here at will. Brands is\was a tough hombre.
roywoodjr1 1 year ago
which one is who?
mattkilla83 1 year ago
that wasn't Tom Brands giving up, that was John Smith using leverage to break Brands grip on his leg. Brands is 2 damn tough 2 give up, which 5:44 is proof of
Berzerker911 1 year ago
@Berzerker911
Tom Brands is tough but this was him going against arguably the best wrestler ever. He did well to hold his own.
Information4us 1 year ago
@Information4us ehh, Gable was better.
Pwner112 1 year ago
@Pwner112 go smoke more crack
HighHeadJim 1 year ago
Yeah when it comes to international freestyle, it doesn't get much better than John Smith
stell29 1 year ago
Brands went on to win his gold in 1996 so both are legends. There's no shame in losing a freestyle match to John Smith...the guy is a freak
stell29 1 year ago
LOVE that ass!
mothrastewart 2 years ago
Comment removed
mothrastewart 2 years ago
At 4:28 Brands is mentally broken.
He doesn't even try to finish the single leg he has on Smith.
Now that is what I called PWNAGE on your opponent.
JesusManson323 2 years ago
I think she has been in that position before.
rogerspring 2 years ago
NICE SHOT!!! @ 2:35 !!!!! the womans ass I mean.
kneeknott 2 years ago
@kneeknott
i love mat maids
Information4us 1 year ago
OKI State baby. Brands got owned!
22hitz 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
To knissel: Tom is not a more successful coach. John Smith has coached more National Champions, All-Americans, Team National Champions, Olympic and World Team members. Not be mean but are you clueless or have you been invovled in wrestling for only two years.
jurom7 2 years ago
Brand totally PWND, Smith was a wrestling wizard! Awesome vid...
Quebrado808 2 years ago 3
Brands was still young, and Smith was at his peak, Smith was a TWO TIME OLYMPIC GOLD winner. VERY, very RARE. In the Olympics he totally dominated, and so did Tom Brands in '96 at the same weight. Smith was absolutely unstoppable in for about 8 yrs in both college and international
tookfirst 2 years ago
Sergei Smal beat him twice and so did the Korean at the 1995 World's. Terry was also beat by Sissaouri in the 1995 finals, the refereeing was bogus.
superdave198 2 years ago
Yep. Would love to have seen these two go at it when BOTH were at their peak. Now THAT would be a match. I'd still bet on Smith though.
riverpotato 2 years ago 2
@tookfirst Smith was an accomplished international wrestler while he was still in College. Who ever beat John Smith like this when he was young? Nobody! He lost a few matches here and there, but nobody ever dominated Smith like he did Brands in this match.
HighHeadJim 1 year ago
@HighHeadJim haha, dude thats funny as fuck lol
TheAlexAnderson1 1 year ago
Clone him
clmetal 2 years ago
Comment removed
knissel 2 years ago
untrue brandsonly has 2 national championship smith has a few more and his teams were far more dominate... osu will be back
bullonparade129 2 years ago
even as a cowboy fan I don't see us coming back for a while due to iowa state and iowa.
badazz1323 2 years ago
i think part of the problem is all the big 10 schools are keeping their kids in state now
bueyjoenafe 2 years ago
Tom is not a more successful coach. John Smith has coached more National Champions, All-Americans, Team National Champions, Olympic and World Team members. Not be mean but are you clueless or have you been invovled in wrestling for only two years.
jurom7 2 years ago 16
Smith has won 5 NCAA titles in 18 seasons at Oklahoma State. Brands has 6 years of head coaching experience. Brands has won 3 NCAA titles in 6 years as a coach.
At the time of this match, Brands had just completed his senior season in college wrestling. He certainly had not been training or competing in freestyle with much consistency. Not to take anything from Smith, but these two great Olympic Champions never saw each other when both were in their prime.
bman546 1 year ago 3
@jurom7 no u wrong, Brands may be a late bloomer but he got the attitude, ask any anyone who has ever wrestled for him, he will go down as Gable 2.
marcef100m 1 year ago
@jurom7 and smith has been a coach longer too.... a head coach
mmarion8979 3 months ago
more successful how?? don't have the stats in front of me, but coach Smith has much more hardware than Brands..plus he actually has class
sanitary103 2 years ago
Brands getting Schooled
TAIOTOSH00 2 years ago
anyone keep track of the score..?
kevts135 2 years ago
john smith is just ridiculously good
samt0rx 2 years ago
John Smith is one of the greatest wrestlers ever. Possibly better than Dan Gable. Gable was just crazy, while John Smith was a technique kind of guy. John Smith completely owned Brands in this match
weekshark777 3 years ago
thanks 4 posting good stuff
relrox9 3 years ago
mismatch, smith is the best
JIMBEUTHER 3 years ago 3
smith deff in red
dimka171 3 years ago
John Smith is the one in red, come on, just lok at all the low singles.
tpickart13 3 years ago 2
which one is john smith too far away to tell
tpan14 4 years ago
Don't care for Brands attitude, love to watch John Smith!
unskinny1 4 years ago
great vid. both amazing wrestlers for sure, but i think the real question is where the hell is keith richards?? he is in the finals for gods sake!! did that kid ever show up to wrestle?
danlockner 4 years ago
Put this and other classic wrestling videos on MatDaddy,com It is a site for the wrestling community and to promote the sport!
cdsan83 4 years ago
well it was a hell of a wrestling match u have tom brands an olypic champion head coach at iowa then u have john smith 6 time world champion, very good records both of them r very good,im a huge fan of both of them
wrestlingnerd101 4 years ago
coming to NY next year to wrestle each other in the Northeast duels. which was created by one of my coaches...
typo1 4 years ago
jeez...smith has the craziest duckunders and single legs =D smith just all around is the man
zarmnesss 4 years ago
I was flying from Dallas to Okla City late one night. the flight attendant was giving her usual safety-features speech about the emergency exit. As I always do, I looked to see who was sitting at the emergency exits and sitting in one of the seats was John Smith. I told my wife sitting next to me, "If that guy can't rip that door off, no one can!"
agent805 4 years ago 28
hahaha
dimka171 3 years ago
@agent805 That's such a sweet story.
akdouggernaut 1 year ago
it doesn't seem like John Smith was at his prime. He was gassing out towards the end giving up 2 shots at the end by taking sloppy ones. but yes John Smith is pretty sound on his feet I've watched his 1989 matches and he never ran out gas.
thevoden 4 years ago
John Smith had a staff infection during both the 1992 Trials and Games. He said that he would get tired after drilling for "only fifteen minutes" He preformed very well for not being in optimal shape.
gsg192 3 years ago
I watched this match live, this was john in his prime and tom was just starting his international career
aquabat99 4 years ago
I personally wanted Brands to win (I am a big fan of the Iowa Hawkeyes) But John Smith tore him up he's definately one of the best.
101em 4 years ago
john smith is phenominal,to be able to tear up brands like that is just unbeleivable. Tom Brands is great to though.
mannnimmmskd 4 years ago
John Smith, Sergei Beloglazov and Alexander Karelin are the greatest wrestlers of all time.
papaooomaumau 4 years ago
that blonde had a nice ass too. Extra viewing fun to go with the match
pidanp 4 years ago 2
i was thinking the same thing
guzzllemydonkey 4 years ago
Smith would have owned him anytime. Smith did all the work through the whole match. Would have been the same result in '96 is Smith had choose to compete.
jimmy57 4 years ago
cool video
noglen 4 years ago
In 91 maybe...In 96 no one will know.
Jameswill2005 4 years ago
wow...I saw brands win the 96 olympics live and Smith owns him.
horje04 4 years ago
Brands was still in college at this time right? It would have been a better match later on in Brands' international career.
cooper9934 4 years ago
smith looked like he was sucking wind at the end, brands gets domianted for the whole match and notches 3 takedowns in the last 40 seconds or so
LoStNuMbErZ 5 years ago
Yeah but Smith often lets people shoot in on him near the end of the match, after he already has it wrapped up.
DrJoseSanchez 5 years ago
ya but u could tell that at that point smith was just playin around,he already had the match won anyway
mannnimmmskd 4 years ago
Wow, Smith was able to shoot on Tommy all day long. This is the 2nd worse I've seen Tom get beat. Randy Lewis pinned Tom pretty quickly when Tom was younger - that's the worst I've ever seen Tom get beat.
DrJoseSanchez 5 years ago