@Farieclau :D i agree there is more action in turkish dance!! i often find it a little hyper and not fitting the (arabic) music tho, but it can be nice too
I do like her tension-free style. She definitely has the Cairo thing down without being too much of a Dina rip off, although you can definitely see Dina's influence there. I thought it was very interesting to watch the whole time and she really didn't travel across the floor with any big moves, just stayed in the center, and it was still captivating.
I own a lot of bellydance instructor DVDs, and Leila's is the best. She makes it feel like she's right there in a dance studio with you, teaching you. I love her traditional Egyptian style of dancing.
Hi ,first off, that is a lovely song its really good, is it a remix of tahtil shibbak an intro or what? I've seen it under the name tahtil shibbak alone,idk ,at first when i was watching this, i thought she was breaking the line of rhythm; constantly, but then it started to come together
Let's be honest. The only reason Leila is more successful than Randa on the wedding scene is because her husband is a well known singer. She gets a lot of work from him. Randa does not have that privilege. And all of this talk about how Egyptian audiences don't like Randa is a load of bull. I've seen Egyptian audiences on the boat go wild for her. At the end of the day, Egyptians just want to be entertained. They don't fuss over whether a dancer's style is "Egyptian" enough or not.
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Let's be honest. The only reason Leila is more successful than Randa on the wedding scene is because her husband is a well known singer. She gets a lot of work from him. Randa does not have that privilege. And all of this talk about how Egyptian audiences don't like Randa is a load of bull. I've seen Egyptian audiences on the boat go wild for her. At the end of the day, Egyptians just want to be entertained. They don't fuss over whether a dancer's style is "Egyptian" enough or not.
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Randa is a great entertainer. She's just not "connected" like Leila, and hasn't slept with anyone for her work. I can tell you after attending most of the Nile Group festivals for 3 years, that Egyptian dance enthusiasts (including her musicians!) find Leila quite boring and underskilled. The only reason she's been teaching at Nile Group is because her husband, whose band plays for the festival all the time, arranged for that. You don't see Outi or Lorna or Joanna teaching. That says a lot.
@bellydancefan22 What Egyptian audiences were on the boat? Are you talking about the Nile events? Many of the people there are foreigners, and many of the Egyptains are artsy or music related crowds. I would not equate them with mass taste.
Show Randa to ordinary Arab dance lovers - she has a very unusual style, a style that can be off putting for its aggressiveness. Leila is a conventional Arab style dancer. There definitely is mainstream and avantgarde taste like in any culture.
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@dinavienna I've been on the boat plenty of times, and I'm talking about regular upper class Egyptians that have nothing to do with dance. Yes, Leila is definitely is definitely conventional--perhaps that's her problem. Too simple and boring for most people's taste, including respected figures in the dance scene. You know a dancer is missing something when her musicians don't even think she's worthy of performing in Cairo.
@bellydancefan22 How could Egyptians ever admit freely that somebody coming from outside could be simply better , and not "just connected" as you say? They couldn't. Concerning "conventional" or "simple": many people do not understand that it is more difficult to dance sophisticatedly but subtle at the some time, than to impress the unqualified crowd by rousing performances "risking" the dance gets an effortless and calm appearance.
Eriny85 I deleted your comment by accident sorry! I thought you had posted the same twice, but it was just shown twice on my screen since I replied twice.. I am sorry! Feel free to post again!
@Eriny85 "avantgarde" bellydance if you like. not appealing to mainstream general audience taste if you like (contrary to Dina who is very feminine - too feminine for some ;) ).
I think one has to distinguish here between real bellydance fanatics in Arab crowds inter alia in Egypt (musicians and fellow artists or general crowd who really like the dance exceptionally much and watch it above average), and the mass public. For the mass public you can speak of "Egyptian taste" IMO.
and yes regarding personal touch the two are VERY different. I admire Randa's daring sense of individuality, I love her dance sometimes and sometimes it's not my taste. Leila is my taste 99% of the time, but she surprises you less. She is "safer" I'd say. Safe but great contemporary Egyptian style bellydance.
Thanks for your comment, I am still a fan of Leila, she is sensitive, impressive and playful on her dance. Not a big fan of Randa, she's energetic and passionate but not really matching with my style, and for some reason I had the impression that she is not egyptian...Thanks for proving that to me :)
One last thing, I want to buy "Total beginner DVD" even thought I am not a beginner but I like her dance very much and wish I'd started from her. I have questions (since u've seen her DVD), is it for a total beginner only?!! Ok, what about her dance routines, are they several? very basics, or she is progressing into more advanced dancing (i really hope so)? Thanks
@Eriny85 hi eriny! Randa is actually Maghrebine, but grown in Egypt. She hasa very unique style, very aggressive and strong.. she really is an exception in the Arab dance scene, and to be honest way more popular with Western professional bellydancers and students (hence people who watch for the art) than with Egyptian "mainstream crowds". In a way Leila has adapted very successfully to the "commercial taste" if you like- she is hyper successful for weddings, etc. Randa isn't! She's kind of
@arabicarts I am not quite sure if her parents are Moroccan or Tunisian.. heard it once but forgot (I seem to remember Morocco but as i said not sure anymore).. she was born in her Native country and her parents moved to egypt when she was little from what i know
Thank you so much for this upload, for your detailed description of this DVD, DINAVIENNA , and especially in comparison to the American way, I am so happy you mentioned that ;D !!!!
In my opinion Leila is definitely one of the best contemporary Egyptian style belly dancers- it's a real pleasure to watch her feminine and subtle moves!
Thank you very much for uploading-I will buy it although I dance since 1993, but Leila always means an enrichment for every dancer, no matter how short or long she might dance already :-)
she is one of my favorite contemporary dancers.. I have a dance of her to Esmaiooni uploaded already in case you do not know it (it is from her professional level instructional for Natasha Senkovich).
I own A TON of beginner instructionals - went overboard with them when I first started practicing at home some years ago.
I am SO glad I took the chance to get another instructional with this one. It is months and months of practice for me :)
Plus: actual Egyptian style instruction rather than American is RARE. Who could better teach the real Egyptian style than an American dancer who went to Egypt to find she'd have to relearn to suit the Egyptian taste?
I am SO happy to finally see someone teach undulations and walking circles and walking shimmies the way the Egyptians dance them.
I actually think this is one of my favorite versions of Tahtil Shibbak....
Secretariat442 2 weeks ago
I kno u had something else to wear in the closet
uhhluuuhh 1 month ago
Great performance, I wish the camera didn't move as much though.
sunnyrosa 2 months ago
rubbish dance
oxa4pinoo 3 months ago
the song called"mn hobi feik ya gari" it's an egyptian song it means " i love my neighbor " the singer name is Faiza Ahmed . you can google it .
BaSOoOma2 4 months ago
Belly dance drive me nuts:) lol..... can i see your work out-dance someday ?;)
egyfan147 4 months ago
For the song, it look likes to Tahtil Shibbak, but i don't know this version.
( Sorry, I'm French, I don't speak verry good english. )
AnarchieDivine 4 months ago
I prefer turkish bellydance! more action, egyptian is more for meditating...
Farieclau 5 months ago
@Farieclau :D i agree there is more action in turkish dance!! i often find it a little hyper and not fitting the (arabic) music tho, but it can be nice too
dinavienna 5 months ago 2
@dinavienna That is because there are different beats for arabic as there is for turkish. So the dances will fit the style of music
prettycool997 1 month ago
I do like her tension-free style. She definitely has the Cairo thing down without being too much of a Dina rip off, although you can definitely see Dina's influence there. I thought it was very interesting to watch the whole time and she really didn't travel across the floor with any big moves, just stayed in the center, and it was still captivating.
PhaedraDarwish 5 months ago
I own a lot of bellydance instructor DVDs, and Leila's is the best. She makes it feel like she's right there in a dance studio with you, teaching you. I love her traditional Egyptian style of dancing.
Secretariat442 6 months ago
what a nice dance and what an interesting costume.
shaherezada1001 7 months ago
Can some please tell me the song and artist of the music PLEASE. MY SISTER AND I LOVE IT!
animaefreak 8 months ago
@animaefreak "Min Hobi Fik ya Ghari/Tahtil Shibbak" from Leila's cd "Sukara". It is available on Amazon under "Leila of Cairo"
dinavienna 8 months ago
@animaefreak it's by a band called saidi not sure of the song though
Murdoc2Dbabe 6 months ago
@animaefreak the song called " mn hobi feik ya gari " its an egyptian song and the artist is Faiza Ahmed
BaSOoOma2 4 months ago
I think she did ok but she is shaped like a Lego block.
boriqmuah 9 months ago
Leila is so Wonderfull!!!!!! i love her danse a lot!!!!!
orientalpassion1 11 months ago
I Love Leila, but the editing (cuts) in this are enough to make one sick.
MsLanaD 1 year ago
@MsLanaD
I absolutely agree! I couldn't even finish watching this beautiful dance.
BoiseShan 11 months ago
i keep coming back to watch this the song is really excellent
linwuzhay 1 year ago
wow lovely!
yasminah87 1 year ago
Hi ,first off, that is a lovely song its really good, is it a remix of tahtil shibbak an intro or what? I've seen it under the name tahtil shibbak alone,idk ,at first when i was watching this, i thought she was breaking the line of rhythm; constantly, but then it started to come together
linwuzhay 1 year ago
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Let's be honest. The only reason Leila is more successful than Randa on the wedding scene is because her husband is a well known singer. She gets a lot of work from him. Randa does not have that privilege. And all of this talk about how Egyptian audiences don't like Randa is a load of bull. I've seen Egyptian audiences on the boat go wild for her. At the end of the day, Egyptians just want to be entertained. They don't fuss over whether a dancer's style is "Egyptian" enough or not.
bellydancefan22 1 year ago
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Let's be honest. The only reason Leila is more successful than Randa on the wedding scene is because her husband is a well known singer. She gets a lot of work from him. Randa does not have that privilege. And all of this talk about how Egyptian audiences don't like Randa is a load of bull. I've seen Egyptian audiences on the boat go wild for her. At the end of the day, Egyptians just want to be entertained. They don't fuss over whether a dancer's style is "Egyptian" enough or not.
bellydancefan22 1 year ago
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Randa is a great entertainer. She's just not "connected" like Leila, and hasn't slept with anyone for her work. I can tell you after attending most of the Nile Group festivals for 3 years, that Egyptian dance enthusiasts (including her musicians!) find Leila quite boring and underskilled. The only reason she's been teaching at Nile Group is because her husband, whose band plays for the festival all the time, arranged for that. You don't see Outi or Lorna or Joanna teaching. That says a lot.
bellydancefan22 1 year ago
@bellydancefan22 What Egyptian audiences were on the boat? Are you talking about the Nile events? Many of the people there are foreigners, and many of the Egyptains are artsy or music related crowds. I would not equate them with mass taste.
Show Randa to ordinary Arab dance lovers - she has a very unusual style, a style that can be off putting for its aggressiveness. Leila is a conventional Arab style dancer. There definitely is mainstream and avantgarde taste like in any culture.
dinavienna 1 year ago 8
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@dinavienna I've been on the boat plenty of times, and I'm talking about regular upper class Egyptians that have nothing to do with dance. Yes, Leila is definitely is definitely conventional--perhaps that's her problem. Too simple and boring for most people's taste, including respected figures in the dance scene. You know a dancer is missing something when her musicians don't even think she's worthy of performing in Cairo.
bellydancefan22 1 year ago
@bellydancefan22 How could Egyptians ever admit freely that somebody coming from outside could be simply better , and not "just connected" as you say? They couldn't. Concerning "conventional" or "simple": many people do not understand that it is more difficult to dance sophisticatedly but subtle at the some time, than to impress the unqualified crowd by rousing performances "risking" the dance gets an effortless and calm appearance.
SnakeKundalini 1 year ago
Eriny85 I deleted your comment by accident sorry! I thought you had posted the same twice, but it was just shown twice on my screen since I replied twice.. I am sorry! Feel free to post again!
dinavienna 1 year ago
@Eriny85 "avantgarde" bellydance if you like. not appealing to mainstream general audience taste if you like (contrary to Dina who is very feminine - too feminine for some ;) ).
I think one has to distinguish here between real bellydance fanatics in Arab crowds inter alia in Egypt (musicians and fellow artists or general crowd who really like the dance exceptionally much and watch it above average), and the mass public. For the mass public you can speak of "Egyptian taste" IMO.
dinavienna 1 year ago
and yes regarding personal touch the two are VERY different. I admire Randa's daring sense of individuality, I love her dance sometimes and sometimes it's not my taste. Leila is my taste 99% of the time, but she surprises you less. She is "safer" I'd say. Safe but great contemporary Egyptian style bellydance.
dinavienna 1 year ago
Thanks for your comment, I am still a fan of Leila, she is sensitive, impressive and playful on her dance. Not a big fan of Randa, she's energetic and passionate but not really matching with my style, and for some reason I had the impression that she is not egyptian...Thanks for proving that to me :)
Eriny85 1 year ago 2
@Eriny85 leila isn't egyptian either but she learned from raqia hassan so it can't get any better than that :)
prettycool997 1 month ago
One last thing, I want to buy "Total beginner DVD" even thought I am not a beginner but I like her dance very much and wish I'd started from her. I have questions (since u've seen her DVD), is it for a total beginner only?!! Ok, what about her dance routines, are they several? very basics, or she is progressing into more advanced dancing (i really hope so)? Thanks
Eriny85 1 year ago
@Eriny85 hi eriny! Randa is actually Maghrebine, but grown in Egypt. She hasa very unique style, very aggressive and strong.. she really is an exception in the Arab dance scene, and to be honest way more popular with Western professional bellydancers and students (hence people who watch for the art) than with Egyptian "mainstream crowds". In a way Leila has adapted very successfully to the "commercial taste" if you like- she is hyper successful for weddings, etc. Randa isn't! She's kind of
dinavienna 1 year ago
@dinavienna randa is north african? i've never heard that before, from where?
arabicarts 3 weeks ago
@arabicarts I am not quite sure if her parents are Moroccan or Tunisian.. heard it once but forgot (I seem to remember Morocco but as i said not sure anymore).. she was born in her Native country and her parents moved to egypt when she was little from what i know
dinavienna 3 weeks ago
@dinavienna :D
SnakeKundalini 1 year ago
Very nice video Dina.
Thanks for sharing :)
zobrano 1 year ago
Really wonderful !!! I love it !!! Thanks for uploading !!!
Shokran !!! :))))))
شكرا
bellyfierce 1 year ago
YES YES YES !!!!!
Thank you so much for this upload, for your detailed description of this DVD, DINAVIENNA , and especially in comparison to the American way, I am so happy you mentioned that ;D !!!!
In my opinion Leila is definitely one of the best contemporary Egyptian style belly dancers- it's a real pleasure to watch her feminine and subtle moves!
SnakeKundalini 1 year ago
رايق ومتحكم وعلى قديمه و وولعه يا حنين ياحنين that's what i am talking about
dam dam
7lwanyi 1 year ago
Thank you very much for uploading-I will buy it although I dance since 1993, but Leila always means an enrichment for every dancer, no matter how short or long she might dance already :-)
salma1001 1 year ago
@salma1001 thank you for your kind comment :)
she is one of my favorite contemporary dancers.. I have a dance of her to Esmaiooni uploaded already in case you do not know it (it is from her professional level instructional for Natasha Senkovich).
I own A TON of beginner instructionals - went overboard with them when I first started practicing at home some years ago.
I am SO glad I took the chance to get another instructional with this one. It is months and months of practice for me :)
dinavienna 1 year ago
Plus: actual Egyptian style instruction rather than American is RARE. Who could better teach the real Egyptian style than an American dancer who went to Egypt to find she'd have to relearn to suit the Egyptian taste?
I am SO happy to finally see someone teach undulations and walking circles and walking shimmies the way the Egyptians dance them.
dinavienna 1 year ago