Because in our American society we not only give tax exemption to Christian organizations, we also give them the ability to bestow degrees with zero (or very little) review. As an exercise to show I am not being hyperbolic, please visit Liberty Universities' website and look at job opportunities. I was forwarded a link that showed a Biology professor's position that not only required a degree in "any scientific field" but also required agreement with "The universities Christian mission"
How did Dr Howell (if I heard the first questioner correctly) manage to take any of what Professor Dawkins said & turn that into being more convinced there is a god is amazing. The result of childhood dogma I suspect. It just goes to prove you can't trust all doctors for being rational!
Before i decided to transition from male to female, i was a god believer, but then i questioned everything which led me to my current path in life and i realized that i am who i am through genetics and biology, not god. This guy helped a lot once i read his book recently, very glad i watched this too, gives the book more back bone, if any were indeed needed.
"Critical thinking is something which isn't universally an attribute of the human mind." Lolll, .... great and very true words from Prof Dawkins. Thanks for the upload.
Amazing that Dawkins can keep his manners while getting hammered with nonsens. It's so obvious that laughable Liberty U has a strategy of getting Dawkins answering some question ambiguously. They failed from the beginning thinking; reson and logic can be penetrated with fantasy.
Such intelligence, manners, humour, stamina.
One just KNOW that with more of the likes of him the world would be a better place - if you don't think so... well, sad.
Liberty University's website says they are "training champions for Christ." This must be a typo. I think they meant to say "training non-thinking morons for Christ."
Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
JESUS CHRIST, HIS CATHOLIC-UNIVERSAL-APOSTOLIC CHURCH, SACRAMENTS, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ST. MARY APPARITIONS, MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN, SIGNS IN 2011 ARE NOT A MYTHOLOGY BUT THE REALITY !!!
Because we came to a point where trying to suvive on the planet with all those tigers around is not our only concernt. We have time to use our brain for other funtions, like looking up the sky and wonder, wonder what other position we can take during sex to make it more fun. Which those pratices accelerated our higher brain development i think at least.
All the wild animals still face life and death and they have no time like we do to do anything other than trying to stay alive.
@BadYahtzee 'looking up the sky and wonder, wonder what other position we can take during sex to make it more fun' doesn't seem to me like a strong Darwinian force for intelligence.
Besides, I can think of lots of animals that would reeeeally benefit a bit more of memory and other mental abilities such as learning skills and learning to communicate and work in groups for a set purpose.
Orca now a days are arguablily more cunning at hunting than humans 10 thousands years ago. They way they hunt in group, passing knowledge to the next generation. So they are evolving and are constantly benifiting from brain development. But so are their preys, We became unique when trying to suvive from other preditors and pass on the DNA became such a small problem. That extra time we gained stack up knowledge generation after generation that isn't just survival related.
Besides mamals (orcas are mammals right?) there aren't many problem solving animals, and NONE of them (besides some particular individuals) are really good at communicating with us.
I don't see all the logic steps in evolution, but I don't see any other ways of a non-metaphysical explanation for life.
@AdNeeb Look I'm really just saying that we're the only ones where that behavior has evolved radically, why?
If something is really positive in evolutionary terms then other species should acquire it fast too. (flying, claws/teeth, sonar/ears, etc) why don't we see more species like ourselves?
(look, I'm totally with you guys, but I'm doing the exercise the other way around, and it should work as well)
Again, the answer is that we DO see those features in other species. In fact, it is interesting that you should ask this question here, considering that much of Dawkin's work in ethology and evolutionary biology is addressed specifically to answering the very question you ask. I mentioned before that you should read a book; let me recommend one in particular.
I love the roaring cheering at the end of every answer, especially coming from Lynchburg. Too many mental midgets got to ask questions though and it obviously irritated him, rightly so.
I think that deriving morality from religion is immoral in itself. Dawkins states that it isn't being a good person if you are only doing things to impress the "surveillance camera in the sky," and I couldn't agree more.
From a neural network point of view the "mind" is a set of complex associations. Thought can be seen as nothing more than a conclusion through analysis of these associations. In the next century as we approach creating a sentient Artificial Intelligence we will realize this.
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papacy cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM til Bible's destroyed folks
''Is he a great scientist?..YES ''But thats all he is,a great scientist'' ''Proof and evidence belongs to science'' ''And FAITH belongs to GOD'' Therefore give to science what belongs to science and give to GOD what belongs to him When u remove all the 'knowledge of science'' that Dawkins acquired He becomes a simple ''antiChrist'' My point is..for those who believe,no proof is necessary and for those who do not believe,no proof is enough!! Dont be fooled by Dawkins!!
@manaseful1 Most atheists believed at one point, and they found that a change in beliefs was more logical and realistic. That is my case. But you are speaking to a very narrow slice of the world when you say not to be fooled. There are probably very few people who have the exact same beliefs that you have, and the other beliefs are completely faith based. So my question to you is, what makes you so much more right than the rest of the religions in the world?
Are you talking about the freewill that your god INSIST that you have to. No no, this isn;t an option, Even if you don't want it, you still have to have this freewill i am forcing you to have.
IT is a serious problem for all of us atheists, who hope for mass apostasy, that we have no comfort, community, or ritual to offer the religious, who wouldn't want to give up these aspects of their faith traditions. I am surprised there isnt a prominent atheist figure who is spending their time trying to come up with a solution.
@Akotlya1 The universe does not owe you comfort. There is a substantial atheist community, however loosely-knit. Atheism has no rituals, and rightly so. If those are the reasons keeping people from acknowledging their beliefs are false, fuck em.
@iowntwocats You fail to see the dilemma for adherents. They may be amenable to my values, but would otherwise not be willing to abandon their traditions. Atheism has no rituals, no communal traditions, and to some this may be a strength, but to others, it is a deal-breaker.
Akotlya1 SAYS, "I am surprised there isnt a prominent atheist figure who is spending their time trying to come up with a solution."
>The solution has been in place for nearly 500 years and is still moving steadily along. The solution is the anti-christ papal Caesar dynasty Vatican Rome's Council of Trent and its agenda set out forthwith.
Rome's Counter Reformation going strong with its Jesuit Order secret military leading the way with Evolution Hoax promoting shills like Dick D.
That was such beautiful poetry to watch Professor Dawkins so logically, rationally, scientifically and meticulously dismantle each question and argument. Perfection.
@dickhead2905 I believe in a giant flying spaghetti monster that orbits around Jupiter. He's invisible and controls all things on earth! People tell me I'm crazy!
The blindness of the religious is revealing an evil. Sad so many can be deceived by the believe they are right and use it to judge. I can understand humanity loving to play "god". I have a hard time understanding the willingness to do it. Sad really.
@ravondal1958 Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.
RICHARD DAWKINS - "OUR COLLECTIVE FREE TIME NEEDS TO SHIFT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO EDUCATION. WHETHER YOU'RE A YOUNG STUDENT OR FINISHED SCHOOL LONG AGO, GET OUT TO THE LIBRARY WHENEVER YOU CAN AND WORK HARD TO LEARN EVERYTHING YOU CAN ABOUT THIS WORLD. EACH INDIVIDUAL AND SOCIETY WILL BENEFIT FROM BEING ABLE TO SOLVE MORE PROBLEMS AND MAKE BETTER DECISIONS. EDUCATION IS AN AMAZING DISCOVERY PROCESS THAT REPAYS US ENDLESSLY."
What is it with religious fools that they can't grasp in their heads the fact that there is no such thing as evil or good. We decide what is good and bad (as we have proven in the past) and evolutionary traits give us the basics. What use would it be if we all stabbed our own brothers? this is not beneficial to life. You see compassion in many species of animals for a good reason.
@johnnybloggo yes all of you are mixed up it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that man is the most intelligent creature on the earth if you don't think so give your orangutan cousins a set of blueprints and tell them to build a house a building and bridge or maybe they could attend college and be a doctor,!
@johnnybloggo yes you are an ape but God made man in His image and I am one of God's,your proud of you orangutan roots however!Wikipedia nonsense ,have you heard this,"professing themselves to be wise they became fools,"here is what happened God made man and then God made the apes and used some of the building blocks that He used on man and along comes the atheists evolutionist digs some fossils up and comes to the wrong conclusions!
@majorl311 Why is "god's" image such a horrible one?? Why do we have such horrible eye sight? Why can't we detect electromagnetic fields like other animals? Why are we so weak compaired to other animals? Why do we have such short life spans pound for pound compaired to birds? How come we can't see various UV spectrums? God's image seems pretty lacking to me.
@Jason442200 my eyesight works well,this life is just the precursor for the spiritual life that comes when we die and if you can endure this imperfect life and be thankful for what you have thanking God, then maybe you will be found worthy to live in the perfect world with God in Heaven!
God, these Liberty students are so damn annoying. I want to hear some rational, legitimate questions from people trying to understand Dawkins, not from a bunch of followers of the cult of Falwell, attempting to debunk scientific fact with gibberish.
Ironically, if someone did come into the venue with a gun and start shooting people...they're far more likely to be a theist who convinced themselves "God told me/orders me/wants me to do this!" than a non-believer.
here is the thing he doesn't connect: natural selection says that everybody should fight for the survival of thier genes. what ever it takes: kill, steal, harm, ... but morality says the opposite (that i should not do that). so what is the need of morality??? anybody answer plz!
@yaqubali People who killed and stole from their neighbours would perhaps benefit for a short while, but then if they are the only ones left alive they cannot reproduce, so they would die, or be unable to fight off predators and die, or be unable to hunt large animals and starve, so people better off at working with each other would be more likely to survive than small bands of loners.
@Squadron266 it starts out as big i'm not saying each person is gonna kill the next person right away. but they will work as a group, like the Nazis they group themselves to get rid of the other groups (survival of their gene as a group). and then it leads to survival of the gene of their tribe (tribe against tribe). and lastly its gonna be each cares about their gene). your mission is the survival of your genes and you will take ways to get their (group your self up and so on).
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
The first person who was a theist said we don't get morality from scripture, then the second person...also a theist, said if we don't get it from scripture then we wouldn't have it. Therein lies the issue with "faith." Even among one religion, there are thousands of sub-sects that disagree with each other.
After watching this, I feel sorry for those who went to some "inappropriate" university. Their simplemindedness is amazing. Dr. Dawkins does have tremendous patient debating with them.
One need only accept the reasonable supposition that not everything conceived by man/woman possesses metaphysical potential or possibility.
The God concept is one such construct.
If all things are possible then by definition no differentiation or distinction could possibly be intellectually and/or scientifically maintained or measured between fact and fantasy, or life and death.
"I will not call what is beyond my understanding a "God", that's what cavemen did. Anytime they didn't understand something, they created a God to explain it. We have evolved past this, I think...I hope... " - Me
@majorl311 God is an ancient, archaic primitive primate concept used to explain the unknown, it has long ago been proven to be false, why you think it is correct and claim it to be logical is beyond anything an intelligent human would even consider in the realm of reality. You have a problem with letting the primate part of your brain control you reasoning. You are a delusional fucking moron.
@majorl311 You are a fucking pussy, you hide behind myths and superstitions and claim you are better. You also are a fool to think you are giving anything to anybody. You once again are proving, you are a delusional fucking moron. Your god does not exist and I will die before I submit to your myths and superstitions, you pathetic religious terrorist. There is no proof of your god. Go Fish, you're a dipshit.
We ARE Apes in the same way that chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and gibbons are apes. You see, the term "Ape" is commonly used to describe all species in the super-family "Hominoidea".
In that sense, Dawkins is perfectly correct when referring to himself as an "Ape". We did not, however "descend" from anything like the modern "Ape" (specifically speaking).
By the way; your video is terrible, ignorant, misleading, and downright stupid.
[-Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?-]
Because everything you just said is the observable fact; testable and useful in predicting actual outcomes.
@Kinin4 Well according to Richard Dawkins some billion years ago we were all African Apes meaning Planet of the Apes existed on this planet. You and i know POTA is fiction but not according to Dawkins.
...that's extremely stupid. We ourselves were not apes. We have descended from an ape-like ancestor.
Comparing it to a fictional movie is a fallacy, and a really stupid one at that. The evidence all points to the FACT that we evolved. Whether you like it or not.
@Kinin4 Evolution is the change over time now according to you your ancestor were apes so that means Apes ruled the world long before we evolved to humans is that right?
You're ignoring everything I said. We did not evolve from Apes; Apes and humans have existed for generally the same amount of time, since both our species branched off from the same ancestor, at approximately the same time.
Dawkins clearly said he's an African Ape meaning the human race were Apes at one point in time like that Hollywood movie ''Planets of the Apes'' This whole theory of evolution is so damn confusing and half the time it don't make any sense.
@Kinin4 I see what your trying to do, you're trying to make science into a religion, you have to remember that the theory of evolution is nothing but a theory meaning a fairytale or something that was made up the same way as most religions are made up.
Also; I'd love to see some of this so-called "common sense" that supposedly "disproves" evolution. The entire scientific community will be changed forever if you can show this.
@Kinin4 I see what your trying to do, you're trying to make science into a religion you have to remember that the theory of evolution is nothing but a theory meaning a fairytale or something that was made up the same way as most religions are made up.
GRAVITY is "nothing but a theory". You are using the ignorant definition of "theory" when, in science, "Theory" is tantamount to FACT. It is a model of explanations that give us demonstrable explanations and predictions.
Evolution has undergone rigorous tests, and is accepted as a fact by the majority of the scientific community.
We do not "believe" in evolution BECAUSE Darwin said it; that is TOTALLY different from "religion".
@Kinin4 In laws of science: A theory can only become fact when it can't be disproven, meaning you can make fairytales like Albert Einstein Wormhole theory and claim it to be fact because no scientist was able to disprove it.
The theory of evolution has been disproven by common sense.
All respectable theories must be "falsifiable", as in, able to be disprove. Gravity is falsifiable, and Evolution is falsifiable. Do you realize how rich and famous you would become, OVERNIGHT, by disproving evolution? You'd be the greatest scientific celebrity since Darwin and Einstein! Even more so!
Evolution can easily be proven wrong (the famous example is "Fossil Rabbits in the Precambrian"); it's just that NO ONE has been able to do it. So it is a fact just like gravity is.
@Kinin4 if man evolved from a common ancestor of monkeys and apes, why is a new-born human infant so dependent on his parents for a relatively much longer time as compared to the offspring of monkeys who are up and runing at a much shorter time after birth. Remember that evolution is a process which improves the ability of a species to live in a better manner
You are slightly mistaken; Evolution is a process which improves the SURVIVAL of a species, FOR that species to effectively reproduce. Man is the dominant species on the planet; I don't think a little bit of extended nursing adversely affects our survivability all that much.
In any case, Natural Selection obviously has not chosen to favor shorter development rates as of yet. Perhaps those who have longer childhoods gain more knowledge, and are more likely to learn and "rely" longer.
@Kinin4 (Part2)I think the theory Evolution has some truth in it but to say the whole theory is fact then it becomes a problem. I want to ask you where did all those things evolved from? Water, Gravity, Air, Clouds, Sky Earth, Moon, Sun, Stars, space i what to know what you have to say or what science has to say thanks :0)
@Kinin4 (Part1) Bird species like the Turkey Buzzard lives up to 118 years and the Humming Bird lives up to 8 years, both new-borns depend on their parents almost the same regardless of what lifespan they have. In one of Dawkins speeches he claimed that humans are living a lot longer than ever before due to modern science (medicine) meaning the human race at one point could have the same lifespan as chimpanzees.
Sure. Humans may have had the same lifespan as chimpanzees. In fact, that is pretty much proven to be the case. Your point?
[-I want to ask you where did all those things evolved from? Water, Gravity, Air, Clouds, Sky Earth, Moon, Sun, Stars, space i what to know what you have to say or what science has to say thanks-]
What the hell do those things have to do with Evolution? All Evolution is is a process by which living things change; it is a fact...you have yet to prove otherwise.
@LoneRookRS1 To say that the iPhone 3G evolved to 4G over some period of time is total nonsense. Yes those phones do resemble each other and might have the same DNA patterns but it doesn't mean it evolved.
If you believe we evolved from Monkeys and Apes and you say it's a fact!! then you just admitted that Hanuman the Hindu God existed and was real.
@oOADROo Phones don't reproduce. Plus, you didn't answer the question. Why would God create such similar beings, with such similar genetic characteristics which imply inter-relatedness? Plus, if things were meant to be "designed", then why have 99% of the species that ever lived on this planet go extinct?
@oOADROo Any theistic God. The fact that machinery cannot reproduce is my point, evolution explains diversity through the dynamic of reproduction through natural selection. There is no other scientific explanation for the diversity of the natural world.
@LoneRookRS1 Explaining how things work is not my thing. When i look at my TV i don't want to know how it works, i only want to know who made it. Science can try to explain how mother nature works but doesn't know how it came about. if the theory of evolution is fact then it doesn't explain the purpose of our existence, meaning the theory of evolution is pointless.
@oOADROo Are you always this stupid or were you just trying exceptionally hard?
Purpose of our existence. Do you not have a family to care for and thereby ensure your genes are passed on to the next generation. Look around you at the other animals and plants that share the planet and incidentally most of out genetic material. We are what we are.
@SissingPyd Our existence is to pass on genes? dude!! I never thought of that! I thought life was about eating out of other peoples plates and running this planet to the ground. Seriously dude! you made perfect sense ;)
@oOADROo If you understood better how things work, you would realise that machinery is radically different to living systems. Evolution explains the diversity of life on Earth through the dynamics involved in sexual reproduction and environmental adaptation, not the purpose of it. The purpose of life is something completely separate from the study of how it behaves. You need to be able to explain the diversity of life in the world scientifically, before you can criticise evolution.
@oOADROo If you understood better how things work, you would realise that machinery is radically different to living systems. Evolution explains the diversity of life on Earth through the dynamics involved in sexual reproduction and environmental adaptation, not the purpose of it. The purpose of life is something completely separate from the study of how it behaves. You need to be able to explain the diversity of life in the world scientifically, before you can criticise evolution.
@oOADROo You say evolution is pointless, because it doesn't explain our purpose? Well, using the same "logic", that would make the bible pointless, too. Because, as all good christians know, the bible, never, ever explains the purpose of life. It NEVER says WHY god made us. It simply declares that he did. If you think the bible explains the purpose of life, I want to know where. Quote a verse or GTFO.
@oOADROo OK, so the koran says that allah made us for the purpose of worshiping him?? IS THAT IT?!? Are you telling me the only reason the entire universe and ALL of mankind exist is simply to worship allah? Fucking hell, that's shit as mate. Well, I guess allah isn't so perfect then. I mean, if he was perfect, he would be complete, whole. But if he had a desire for people to worship him, it meant he was missing something, he wanted more, he longed for it, therefore incomplete and not perfect.
@BreaksFast Before you judge the Quran have you read it? If not i advise you to do so before making any judgements. The meaning of worship covers a whole load of aspect of life for example: Helping the needy, being good to your parents and neighbours, being grateful to the creator for all he has given us and not associating him to man or to Jesus and so on.. The Quran will explain your existents, all you have to do is read it.
@oOADROo No, you're missing the point. I want to know why a perfect being, who was completely content, absolutely happy and DESIRED nothing would all of a sudden just think to itself: "Oh, I know, I should make a universe and put people in it!" WHY would it do that? It simply does not matter how much theists love to believe religion gives their OWN personal lives a purpose and reason, not a single one can EVER give a good answer as to the meaning of LIFE. Not the meaning of your life, just LIFE.
@BreaksFast A Christian priest will explain the meaning of life but when you look in the scriptures its totally different. I can explain to you the meaning of ''LIFE'' but it will be better for you to do your own research by reading the Quran. The Quran will give a broader understanding of life and the purpose of creation you just have to read it my friend.
@BreaksFast The purpose of life is to do what the stars, the planets, the moon, the sun and the earth are doing, submitting to the laws of the creator and not transgressing those laws.
''Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were (once) a joined entity, then We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?''
It's all there in black and white you just have to read it my friend.
@BreaksFast we as humans on earth are on earth to get tested (according to the Quran) by our wealth and how we spend it and so on... and then in the hereafter we get rewarded according to our deeds. That is the special thing about humans: god made us have a free will to decide between good and bad, and there is a hereafter for humans but not for animals (because the don't have free will). i hope you understand me
my question for you is this ,God said He God made man in His image in Genesis ,and then God said that man was above all the creatures on earth, made in Gods image and God gave man dominion over all the earth and the creatures therein ,so today even after 6000 years we can visibly see that man has always held that place in the world,so therefore can you continue to refute this evidence and stay in your lies???????????
@majorl311 What? evolution happens over millions of years, and we have fossil records to prove it. fyi, evolution happens when things reproduce with a small variance of genetic change; if one genetic change reproduces more offspring than another, then that mutation was clearly better. For example: if a conniver has genetic mutation that gives him longer teeth, then it will be able to eat better, live longer, and reproduce more offspring. these are not lies.
@populer208 now you believe this stuff,it has gone from theory to facts that evolution answers all the questions,God made man in His image and God gave man dominion over all the earth,if you followed the cells mitochondria ,which is only in mothers it goes back to the mother of all mothers,mitochondrial eve,police used to use the outdated methods you use but now they use the latest science ,DNA that is,so God made man and then God used a similar pattern for apes and that has you mixed up!
@populer208 Yes well I believe the Bible that says God made man in His image and gave him ,man,dominion over all the other creatures in the earth,note ,we have dominion over all the earth still today,we are the most intelligent species on the earth,some lack common sense however,back to that evolutions have brought us down to just another animal ,just a cousin of the apes,lowering us from our position in God plan,and it is a lie!
@majorl311@majorl311 You are a fucking pussy, you hide behind myths and superstitions and claim you are better. You also are a fool to think you are giving anything to anybody. You once again are proving, you are a delusional fucking moron. Your god does not exist and I will die before I submit to your myths and superstitions, you pathetic religious terrorist. There is no proof of your god. Go Fish, you dipshit.
@majorl311 God is an ancient, archaic primitive primate concept used to explain the unknown, it has long ago been proven to be false, why you think it is correct and claim it to be logical is beyond anything an intelligent human would even consider in the realm of reality. You have a problem with letting the primate part of your brain control you reasoning. You are a delusional fucking moron.
@mechanicmike69 Yes Mike we know that that is your belief,and read what you just said because that is your creed and your belief system ,we get that !
@majorl311 It's not my belief it is fact you fucking delusional moron. Your god is make believe and more proof we evolved from primates, you fucking idiot.
"I will not call what is beyond my understanding a "God", that's what cavemen did. Anytime they didn't understand something, they created a God to explain it. We have evolved past this, I think...I hope... " - Me
@populer208 Mark Twain was right and "majorl311" is one of the biggest fools and bigotry pushers there are. He is, more proof of evolution, and our primate origins.
@majorl311 I will no more submit to your religion than you would submit to Islam and the Koran. It's a rather easy concept, neither one has any proof, none. They both are utterly ridiculous, they both are just myths and superstitions. Neither one has, or ever had, a monopoly on societies morals and ethics. The fact you value your religion's god over what really matters,( Family, friends, and community really are what come first), proves you do not know what morals and ethics of our society are.
Any loud noise or startling occurrence MAY be a threatening predator, so we (i.e. animals) are geared to "put a face to natural phenomena". And end up putting a face on what ever what do not know or can not explain: Hence Jesus, Satan, demons, God, angels, Bigfoot, etc. Man came up with the idea and invented the notion of a god. It was his ignorant, catch all, explanation for the unknown.
Because in our American society we not only give tax exemption to Christian organizations, we also give them the ability to bestow degrees with zero (or very little) review. As an exercise to show I am not being hyperbolic, please visit Liberty Universities' website and look at job opportunities. I was forwarded a link that showed a Biology professor's position that not only required a degree in "any scientific field" but also required agreement with "The universities Christian mission"
califorever100 3 days ago
How did Dr Howell (if I heard the first questioner correctly) manage to take any of what Professor Dawkins said & turn that into being more convinced there is a god is amazing. The result of childhood dogma I suspect. It just goes to prove you can't trust all doctors for being rational!
epicdeed 1 week ago
those questions where soooooooooo stupid. O_O
awesomeskier12345 1 week ago
Could someone please explain how this "Liberty university" is allowed to function within the borders of a supposedly civilized country?
SternMann93 1 week ago 3
"I don't understand why you should feel insulted. I didn't insult you, I insulted God!"
Oh Richard, you witty atheist!
RafaHenryBorges 1 week ago
Before i decided to transition from male to female, i was a god believer, but then i questioned everything which led me to my current path in life and i realized that i am who i am through genetics and biology, not god. This guy helped a lot once i read his book recently, very glad i watched this too, gives the book more back bone, if any were indeed needed.
missalisonhamiltonUK 1 week ago 3
OK kids, the lecture is over. Get back to creation class, we are missing prayer time!
kaduisaui 3 weeks ago
"Critical thinking is something which isn't universally an attribute of the human mind." Lolll, .... great and very true words from Prof Dawkins. Thanks for the upload.
Ahiga4545 3 weeks ago 2
0:37:00 self note to remember where i stopped the video.
ZakkSal 3 weeks ago
Can a single one of these people get through a question without stuttering 25 times?
jman7152 3 weeks ago
@jman7152 seriously LOL all i hear is like "uh ah um.. i just.. like.. uhh ahh umm" lmao
ZakkSal 3 weeks ago
"People on cocaine feel bugs in their skin"? Does that guy believe everything his Sunday school teacher told him?
jakeyw11 3 weeks ago
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Amazing that Dawkins can keep his manners while getting hammered with nonsens. It's so obvious that laughable Liberty U has a strategy of getting Dawkins answering some question ambiguously. They failed from the beginning thinking; reson and logic can be penetrated with fantasy.
Such intelligence, manners, humour, stamina.
One just KNOW that with more of the likes of him the world would be a better place - if you don't think so... well, sad.
ExtrackterYT 3 weeks ago
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ExtrackterYT 3 weeks ago
is it possible to have the house lights up a bit? i'd like to see who i'm about to destroy.
youthank8 4 weeks ago 5
Liberty University's website says they are "training champions for Christ." This must be a typo. I think they meant to say "training non-thinking morons for Christ."
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JezusSlave 1 month ago
If morality was indeed such a great biological advantage then we should expect to see more moral animals out there, no?
Same goes for intelligence.
WHY ARE WE THE ONLY ONES ON THIS PLANET TO HAVE DEVELOPED THIS THINGS SO QUICKLY?
6u6u7o 1 month ago
@6u6u7o
Because we came to a point where trying to suvive on the planet with all those tigers around is not our only concernt. We have time to use our brain for other funtions, like looking up the sky and wonder, wonder what other position we can take during sex to make it more fun. Which those pratices accelerated our higher brain development i think at least.
All the wild animals still face life and death and they have no time like we do to do anything other than trying to stay alive.
BadYahtzee 1 month ago
@BadYahtzee 'looking up the sky and wonder, wonder what other position we can take during sex to make it more fun' doesn't seem to me like a strong Darwinian force for intelligence.
Besides, I can think of lots of animals that would reeeeally benefit a bit more of memory and other mental abilities such as learning skills and learning to communicate and work in groups for a set purpose.
6u6u7o 1 month ago
@6u6u7o
Orca now a days are arguablily more cunning at hunting than humans 10 thousands years ago. They way they hunt in group, passing knowledge to the next generation. So they are evolving and are constantly benifiting from brain development. But so are their preys, We became unique when trying to suvive from other preditors and pass on the DNA became such a small problem. That extra time we gained stack up knowledge generation after generation that isn't just survival related.
BadYahtzee 1 month ago
@BadYahtzee ok thanks
Besides mamals (orcas are mammals right?) there aren't many problem solving animals, and NONE of them (besides some particular individuals) are really good at communicating with us.
I don't see all the logic steps in evolution, but I don't see any other ways of a non-metaphysical explanation for life.
6u6u7o 1 month ago
@6u6u7o Dolphins and apes are very effective problem solvers
CokeSupply 4 weeks ago
@CokeSupply **Besides mammals***
6u6u7o 4 weeks ago
@CokeSupply horses are excellent counters
bodalix18 3 weeks ago
@6u6u7o
We do see moral non-human animals. We also see intelligent non-human animals. Go read a book.
AdNeeb 1 month ago
@AdNeeb Look I'm really just saying that we're the only ones where that behavior has evolved radically, why?
If something is really positive in evolutionary terms then other species should acquire it fast too. (flying, claws/teeth, sonar/ears, etc) why don't we see more species like ourselves?
(look, I'm totally with you guys, but I'm doing the exercise the other way around, and it should work as well)
6u6u7o 1 month ago
@6u6u7o
Again, the answer is that we DO see those features in other species. In fact, it is interesting that you should ask this question here, considering that much of Dawkin's work in ethology and evolutionary biology is addressed specifically to answering the very question you ask. I mentioned before that you should read a book; let me recommend one in particular.
amazon[dot]com/Selfish-Gene-Anniversary-Introduction/dp/0199291152
AdNeeb 1 month ago
@AdNeeb yes sir, I shall read that book. I was thinking of reading it for quite some time now.
Thanks :3
6u6u7o 1 month ago
@6u6u7o this is because we are the first species to have the mental capability to change our behaviour based on what we think.
maluse227 3 weeks ago
@6u6u7o we were the only ones who needed to.
maluse227 3 weeks ago
Why the fuck is it so hard for these drones to spit out a coherent sentence?
kkinkead 1 month ago
@kkinkead
simple, they do not have confidence in the points they were trying to make.
BadYahtzee 1 month ago
I love the roaring cheering at the end of every answer, especially coming from Lynchburg. Too many mental midgets got to ask questions though and it obviously irritated him, rightly so.
mikelh 1 month ago
I think that deriving morality from religion is immoral in itself. Dawkins states that it isn't being a good person if you are only doing things to impress the "surveillance camera in the sky," and I couldn't agree more.
ZHZdaHZH 1 month ago
From a neural network point of view the "mind" is a set of complex associations. Thought can be seen as nothing more than a conclusion through analysis of these associations. In the next century as we approach creating a sentient Artificial Intelligence we will realize this.
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JESUS WAS A PAEDOPHILE.
martyaus2905 1 month ago
the "theist" was much more eloquent and humble than the Dr Douch *ahem* i mean Dr Howel, when asking questions.
mihaimoldo 1 month ago
Too many lightweights asking dumb questions
panadevulpe 1 month ago
The great Juju at the bottom of the sea XD.
jacobmonast 2 months ago
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smallblueclouds 2 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papacy cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM til Bible's destroyed folks
SpencerBenedict2nd 2 months ago
Every time someone mentions they are from Liberty University they get pathetic scattered applause.
daemonowner 2 months ago
Don't you love it when Dawkins uses the word "evidence"?
FreeTunes498 2 months ago
How can they be so stupid?
morgandude2 2 months ago
Im eating a bowl of Coco Pebbles right now.
dwilmer7 2 months ago
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@dwilmer7 Ah man. I loved Coco Pebbles. I'm going to have to go out tomorrow and get me a box. Thanx
p.s. didn't care much for those fruity pebbles though
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''Is he a great scientist?..YES ''But thats all he is,a great scientist'' ''Proof and evidence belongs to science'' ''And FAITH belongs to GOD'' Therefore give to science what belongs to science and give to GOD what belongs to him When u remove all the 'knowledge of science'' that Dawkins acquired He becomes a simple ''antiChrist'' My point is..for those who believe,no proof is necessary and for those who do not believe,no proof is enough!! Dont be fooled by Dawkins!!
manaseful1 2 months ago
@manaseful1 Most atheists believed at one point, and they found that a change in beliefs was more logical and realistic. That is my case. But you are speaking to a very narrow slice of the world when you say not to be fooled. There are probably very few people who have the exact same beliefs that you have, and the other beliefs are completely faith based. So my question to you is, what makes you so much more right than the rest of the religions in the world?
ZHZdaHZH 1 month ago
@ZHZdaHZH
Everyone has been given freewill,and that will define the destiny...whatever that is..
You and I both believe in something,might not be the same thing
What i've said is not for everyone,some will understand it,some will not,others will even think its absurd...
but thats my believe as im sure u have urs too..
manaseful1 1 month ago
@manaseful1
Are you talking about the freewill that your god INSIST that you have to. No no, this isn;t an option, Even if you don't want it, you still have to have this freewill i am forcing you to have.
BadYahtzee 1 month ago
@BadYahtzee
I could have 'chosen' to disregard God like you...
so you understand 'forcing' is somehow questionable.
manaseful1 1 month ago
IT is a serious problem for all of us atheists, who hope for mass apostasy, that we have no comfort, community, or ritual to offer the religious, who wouldn't want to give up these aspects of their faith traditions. I am surprised there isnt a prominent atheist figure who is spending their time trying to come up with a solution.
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@Akotlya1 The universe does not owe you comfort. There is a substantial atheist community, however loosely-knit. Atheism has no rituals, and rightly so. If those are the reasons keeping people from acknowledging their beliefs are false, fuck em.
iowntwocats 2 months ago
@iowntwocats You fail to see the dilemma for adherents. They may be amenable to my values, but would otherwise not be willing to abandon their traditions. Atheism has no rituals, no communal traditions, and to some this may be a strength, but to others, it is a deal-breaker.
Akotlya1 2 months ago
@Akotlya1 that is only because people make the fatal mistake of equating atheism to RELIGION, instead of theism.
Atheism is simply the position of not believing there is a god or gods.
Theism in its broadest and most basic sense is the belief a god or gods exist.
Religion is a convoluted set of rituals, dogma's, social activities and so much more, organised around theistic belief.
The thing to put against religion would rather be something like humanism, etc.
enlightendbel 1 month ago
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@Akotlya1
Akotlya1 SAYS, "I am surprised there isnt a prominent atheist figure who is spending their time trying to come up with a solution."
>The solution has been in place for nearly 500 years and is still moving steadily along. The solution is the anti-christ papal Caesar dynasty Vatican Rome's Council of Trent and its agenda set out forthwith.
Rome's Counter Reformation going strong with its Jesuit Order secret military leading the way with Evolution Hoax promoting shills like Dick D.
SpencerBenedict2nd 2 months ago
Liberty Students please pay attention to what Dr. Dawkins is saying you may actually learn something.
wowamonn 2 months ago 3
Welcome to 'Merica! Listnin to yur accent I'd s'pose ur brillyant!
CookieWalka 2 months ago
error-theory FTW!! Macky was right
daddyleon 2 months ago
Annihilation.
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That was such beautiful poetry to watch Professor Dawkins so logically, rationally, scientifically and meticulously dismantle each question and argument. Perfection.
azdv 2 months ago 24
I love how he manages to give coherent responses to questions that are incredibly idiotic. Were I in his place i would be dumbfounded.
NoahTheArkman 2 months ago 6
The title of this video should be changed to "Richard Dawkins bitch-slaps liberty university.....repeatedly"
morgothic420 2 months ago 22
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VorucPro 2 weeks ago
Anger in the deconditioning process? My abandonment of Catholicism and adoption of reason was a intellectual and emotional orgasm.
HKOverlord117 3 months ago
I believe in the tooth fairy, dont question it its my faith.
dickhead2905 3 months ago
@dickhead2905 I believe in a giant flying spaghetti monster that orbits around Jupiter. He's invisible and controls all things on earth! People tell me I'm crazy!
IAmBadatStarcraft 2 months ago
Richard Dawkins: "Bite down hard Liberty Uni, I'm coming in dry."
vasculogenesis 3 months ago 5
The blindness of the religious is revealing an evil. Sad so many can be deceived by the believe they are right and use it to judge. I can understand humanity loving to play "god". I have a hard time understanding the willingness to do it. Sad really.
ravondal1958 3 months ago
@ravondal1958 Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.
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RICHARD DAWKINS - "OUR COLLECTIVE FREE TIME NEEDS TO SHIFT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO EDUCATION. WHETHER YOU'RE A YOUNG STUDENT OR FINISHED SCHOOL LONG AGO, GET OUT TO THE LIBRARY WHENEVER YOU CAN AND WORK HARD TO LEARN EVERYTHING YOU CAN ABOUT THIS WORLD. EACH INDIVIDUAL AND SOCIETY WILL BENEFIT FROM BEING ABLE TO SOLVE MORE PROBLEMS AND MAKE BETTER DECISIONS. EDUCATION IS AN AMAZING DISCOVERY PROCESS THAT REPAYS US ENDLESSLY."
TheLogicalBrain 3 months ago
These Liberty U students and "professors" cannot even form a coherent sentence.
danielvittet 3 months ago 6
Richard arranges glasses = crowd claps :p
Karozza124 3 months ago 4
What is it with religious fools that they can't grasp in their heads the fact that there is no such thing as evil or good. We decide what is good and bad (as we have proven in the past) and evolutionary traits give us the basics. What use would it be if we all stabbed our own brothers? this is not beneficial to life. You see compassion in many species of animals for a good reason.
LambdaQuarks 3 months ago
Dawkin has a god. His name is evolution
robertpires87 3 months ago
@robertpires87
That's not an entity.
LambdaQuarks 3 months ago
@robertpires87 robertpires87 has a god. His name is Stupidity.
greenjelly01 3 months ago
@robertpires87 your a moron
dickhead2905 3 months ago
0:20 Hello, is this microphone on? (joke fail) I am Dr. Howel and I didn't pay attention during your lecture. I am a douche.
kaduisaui 3 months ago 66
@kaduisaui cue 4 mins of him being shredded
3hickmanm 1 month ago
@kaduisaui Lollll
Ahiga4545 3 weeks ago
@johnnybloggo yes all of you are mixed up it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that man is the most intelligent creature on the earth if you don't think so give your orangutan cousins a set of blueprints and tell them to build a house a building and bridge or maybe they could attend college and be a doctor,!
majorl311 3 months ago
@johnnybloggo yes you are an ape but God made man in His image and I am one of God's,your proud of you orangutan roots however!Wikipedia nonsense ,have you heard this,"professing themselves to be wise they became fools,"here is what happened God made man and then God made the apes and used some of the building blocks that He used on man and along comes the atheists evolutionist digs some fossils up and comes to the wrong conclusions!
majorl311 3 months ago
@majorl311 Why is "god's" image such a horrible one?? Why do we have such horrible eye sight? Why can't we detect electromagnetic fields like other animals? Why are we so weak compaired to other animals? Why do we have such short life spans pound for pound compaired to birds? How come we can't see various UV spectrums? God's image seems pretty lacking to me.
Jason442200 3 months ago
@Jason442200 my eyesight works well,this life is just the precursor for the spiritual life that comes when we die and if you can endure this imperfect life and be thankful for what you have thanking God, then maybe you will be found worthy to live in the perfect world with God in Heaven!
majorl311 3 months ago
God, these Liberty students are so damn annoying. I want to hear some rational, legitimate questions from people trying to understand Dawkins, not from a bunch of followers of the cult of Falwell, attempting to debunk scientific fact with gibberish.
OliverZimbelman 3 months ago 5
"people on cocaine feel bugs in their skin but that doesn't make it real".... Do these people believe everything their pastors tell them?
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@jakeyw11 Only when their given a gross misrepresentation of what they deem 'the alternative' AKA science.
ganados0 3 months ago
Ironically, if someone did come into the venue with a gun and start shooting people...they're far more likely to be a theist who convinced themselves "God told me/orders me/wants me to do this!" than a non-believer.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
All the questioners with their quivering voices from Liberty University got quietly chopped up and their asses mailed back to their mamas.
fdasherv 4 months ago 63
@fdasherv and in the end completely chewed up and shit down the toilet :p
I just read up what this "Liberty University" is and all I can say is Sheesh, why do they even bother trying to maskerade as a university?
enlightendbel 1 month ago
here is the thing he doesn't connect: natural selection says that everybody should fight for the survival of thier genes. what ever it takes: kill, steal, harm, ... but morality says the opposite (that i should not do that). so what is the need of morality??? anybody answer plz!
yaqubali 4 months ago
@yaqubali natural selection does not say that everybody should fight for the survival of their genes...
so your question doesn't make sense.
adamimos 4 months ago
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@adamimos so in your opinion what does it say?
yaqubali 4 months ago
@yaqubali
easy
jazzx251 4 months ago
@yaqubali People who killed and stole from their neighbours would perhaps benefit for a short while, but then if they are the only ones left alive they cannot reproduce, so they would die, or be unable to fight off predators and die, or be unable to hunt large animals and starve, so people better off at working with each other would be more likely to survive than small bands of loners.
Squadron266 3 months ago
@Squadron266 it starts out as big i'm not saying each person is gonna kill the next person right away. but they will work as a group, like the Nazis they group themselves to get rid of the other groups (survival of their gene as a group). and then it leads to survival of the gene of their tribe (tribe against tribe). and lastly its gonna be each cares about their gene). your mission is the survival of your genes and you will take ways to get their (group your self up and so on).
yaqubali 3 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
SpencerBenedict2nd 4 months ago
On the issue of morality:
The first person who was a theist said we don't get morality from scripture, then the second person...also a theist, said if we don't get it from scripture then we wouldn't have it. Therein lies the issue with "faith." Even among one religion, there are thousands of sub-sects that disagree with each other.
jojogonzo 4 months ago 2
After watching this, I feel sorry for those who went to some "inappropriate" university. Their simplemindedness is amazing. Dr. Dawkins does have tremendous patient debating with them.
caodapengtj 4 months ago
One need only accept the reasonable supposition that not everything conceived by man/woman possesses metaphysical potential or possibility.
The God concept is one such construct.
If all things are possible then by definition no differentiation or distinction could possibly be intellectually and/or scientifically maintained or measured between fact and fantasy, or life and death.
Easleytee 4 months ago
"Welcome to America" and they say Americans don't get sarcasm.
advers1078 4 months ago
@oOADROo " iPhone 3G evolved to 4G over some period of time is total nonsense"
Hahahahaha, ohhh thats rich, thats fkn sweet
shandcunt 4 months ago
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"I will not call what is beyond my understanding a "God", that's what cavemen did. Anytime they didn't understand something, they created a God to explain it. We have evolved past this, I think...I hope... " - Me
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@majorl311 God is an ancient, archaic primitive primate concept used to explain the unknown, it has long ago been proven to be false, why you think it is correct and claim it to be logical is beyond anything an intelligent human would even consider in the realm of reality. You have a problem with letting the primate part of your brain control you reasoning. You are a delusional fucking moron.
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@majorl311 You are a fucking pussy, you hide behind myths and superstitions and claim you are better. You also are a fool to think you are giving anything to anybody. You once again are proving, you are a delusional fucking moron. Your god does not exist and I will die before I submit to your myths and superstitions, you pathetic religious terrorist. There is no proof of your god. Go Fish, you're a dipshit.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
He should loose the K.
Richard DaWINS.
isamu135 4 months ago
@oOADROo
We ARE Apes in the same way that chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and gibbons are apes. You see, the term "Ape" is commonly used to describe all species in the super-family "Hominoidea".
In that sense, Dawkins is perfectly correct when referring to himself as an "Ape". We did not, however "descend" from anything like the modern "Ape" (specifically speaking).
By the way; your video is terrible, ignorant, misleading, and downright stupid.
Kinin4 4 months ago
Dawkins Planets of the Apes theory is a delusion
oOADROo 5 months ago
@oOADROo
Can you define more clearly what you claim his delusion is?
Kinin4 5 months ago
@1tabligh
[-Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?-]
Because everything you just said is the observable fact; testable and useful in predicting actual outcomes.
Kinin4 5 months ago
@Kinin4 I didn't get you.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
Apologies; I have no idea how that comment ended up in our discussion. Allow me to restate the request:
Please clarify what exactly you believe Dawkin's "delusion" is. We all know that "The Planet of the Apes" as in, the hollywood movie, is fiction.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 Well according to Richard Dawkins some billion years ago we were all African Apes meaning Planet of the Apes existed on this planet. You and i know POTA is fiction but not according to Dawkins.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
...that's extremely stupid. We ourselves were not apes. We have descended from an ape-like ancestor.
Comparing it to a fictional movie is a fallacy, and a really stupid one at that. The evidence all points to the FACT that we evolved. Whether you like it or not.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 ''Evidence all points to the FACT that we evolved''
Evolved from what?
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
A common ancestor with apes; probably Australopithecus.
Do you not know anything about evolution?
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 Evolution is the change over time now according to you your ancestor were apes so that means Apes ruled the world long before we evolved to humans is that right?
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
You're ignoring everything I said. We did not evolve from Apes; Apes and humans have existed for generally the same amount of time, since both our species branched off from the same ancestor, at approximately the same time.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 Now your confusing??? Look at this
watch?v=5D18PUpopm8
Dawkins clearly said he's an African Ape meaning the human race were Apes at one point in time like that Hollywood movie ''Planets of the Apes'' This whole theory of evolution is so damn confusing and half the time it don't make any sense.
oOADROo 4 months ago
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Kinin4 4 months ago
@oOADROo
And the Theory of Evolution is only confusing if you are biased against it; in fact, it is elegantly simple.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 I see what your trying to do, you're trying to make science into a religion, you have to remember that the theory of evolution is nothing but a theory meaning a fairytale or something that was made up the same way as most religions are made up.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
Also; I'd love to see some of this so-called "common sense" that supposedly "disproves" evolution. The entire scientific community will be changed forever if you can show this.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 I see what your trying to do, you're trying to make science into a religion you have to remember that the theory of evolution is nothing but a theory meaning a fairytale or something that was made up the same way as most religions are made up.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
...What?
"Evolution is nothing but a theory"?
GRAVITY is "nothing but a theory". You are using the ignorant definition of "theory" when, in science, "Theory" is tantamount to FACT. It is a model of explanations that give us demonstrable explanations and predictions.
Evolution has undergone rigorous tests, and is accepted as a fact by the majority of the scientific community.
We do not "believe" in evolution BECAUSE Darwin said it; that is TOTALLY different from "religion".
Try Again.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 In laws of science: A theory can only become fact when it can't be disproven, meaning you can make fairytales like Albert Einstein Wormhole theory and claim it to be fact because no scientist was able to disprove it.
The theory of evolution has been disproven by common sense.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
All respectable theories must be "falsifiable", as in, able to be disprove. Gravity is falsifiable, and Evolution is falsifiable. Do you realize how rich and famous you would become, OVERNIGHT, by disproving evolution? You'd be the greatest scientific celebrity since Darwin and Einstein! Even more so!
Evolution can easily be proven wrong (the famous example is "Fossil Rabbits in the Precambrian"); it's just that NO ONE has been able to do it. So it is a fact just like gravity is.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 if man evolved from a common ancestor of monkeys and apes, why is a new-born human infant so dependent on his parents for a relatively much longer time as compared to the offspring of monkeys who are up and runing at a much shorter time after birth. Remember that evolution is a process which improves the ability of a species to live in a better manner
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo
You are slightly mistaken; Evolution is a process which improves the SURVIVAL of a species, FOR that species to effectively reproduce. Man is the dominant species on the planet; I don't think a little bit of extended nursing adversely affects our survivability all that much.
In any case, Natural Selection obviously has not chosen to favor shorter development rates as of yet. Perhaps those who have longer childhoods gain more knowledge, and are more likely to learn and "rely" longer.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@Kinin4 (Part2)I think the theory Evolution has some truth in it but to say the whole theory is fact then it becomes a problem. I want to ask you where did all those things evolved from? Water, Gravity, Air, Clouds, Sky Earth, Moon, Sun, Stars, space i what to know what you have to say or what science has to say thanks :0)
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo Darwin's Theory of Evolution has nothing to do with the water, gravity, air, clouds etc.
gskhor90 4 months ago
@Kinin4 (Part1) Bird species like the Turkey Buzzard lives up to 118 years and the Humming Bird lives up to 8 years, both new-borns depend on their parents almost the same regardless of what lifespan they have. In one of Dawkins speeches he claimed that humans are living a lot longer than ever before due to modern science (medicine) meaning the human race at one point could have the same lifespan as chimpanzees.
oOADROo 4 months ago
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@oOADROo
Sure. Humans may have had the same lifespan as chimpanzees. In fact, that is pretty much proven to be the case. Your point?
[-I want to ask you where did all those things evolved from? Water, Gravity, Air, Clouds, Sky Earth, Moon, Sun, Stars, space i what to know what you have to say or what science has to say thanks-]
What the hell do those things have to do with Evolution? All Evolution is is a process by which living things change; it is a fact...you have yet to prove otherwise.
Kinin4 4 months ago
@oOADROo If we are not closely related to other apes, then why are they so physically and genetically similar to us? Explain.
LoneRookRS1 4 months ago
@LoneRookRS1 To say that the iPhone 3G evolved to 4G over some period of time is total nonsense. Yes those phones do resemble each other and might have the same DNA patterns but it doesn't mean it evolved.
If you believe we evolved from Monkeys and Apes and you say it's a fact!! then you just admitted that Hanuman the Hindu God existed and was real.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo Phones don't reproduce. Plus, you didn't answer the question. Why would God create such similar beings, with such similar genetic characteristics which imply inter-relatedness? Plus, if things were meant to be "designed", then why have 99% of the species that ever lived on this planet go extinct?
LoneRookRS1 4 months ago
@LoneRookRS1 First off.. Apple didn't make a female version of the iPhone and if they did, they don't have the technology to make them reproduce.
Before i answer your questions first i need to know what god or creator you're talking about?
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo Any theistic God. The fact that machinery cannot reproduce is my point, evolution explains diversity through the dynamic of reproduction through natural selection. There is no other scientific explanation for the diversity of the natural world.
LoneRookRS1 4 months ago
@LoneRookRS1 Explaining how things work is not my thing. When i look at my TV i don't want to know how it works, i only want to know who made it. Science can try to explain how mother nature works but doesn't know how it came about. if the theory of evolution is fact then it doesn't explain the purpose of our existence, meaning the theory of evolution is pointless.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo Are you always this stupid or were you just trying exceptionally hard?
Purpose of our existence. Do you not have a family to care for and thereby ensure your genes are passed on to the next generation. Look around you at the other animals and plants that share the planet and incidentally most of out genetic material. We are what we are.
SissingPyd 4 months ago
@SissingPyd Our existence is to pass on genes? dude!! I never thought of that! I thought life was about eating out of other peoples plates and running this planet to the ground. Seriously dude! you made perfect sense ;)
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo If you understood better how things work, you would realise that machinery is radically different to living systems. Evolution explains the diversity of life on Earth through the dynamics involved in sexual reproduction and environmental adaptation, not the purpose of it. The purpose of life is something completely separate from the study of how it behaves. You need to be able to explain the diversity of life in the world scientifically, before you can criticise evolution.
LoneRookRS1 4 months ago
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@oOADROo If you understood better how things work, you would realise that machinery is radically different to living systems. Evolution explains the diversity of life on Earth through the dynamics involved in sexual reproduction and environmental adaptation, not the purpose of it. The purpose of life is something completely separate from the study of how it behaves. You need to be able to explain the diversity of life in the world scientifically, before you can criticise evolution.
LoneRookRS1 4 months ago
@oOADROo You say evolution is pointless, because it doesn't explain our purpose? Well, using the same "logic", that would make the bible pointless, too. Because, as all good christians know, the bible, never, ever explains the purpose of life. It NEVER says WHY god made us. It simply declares that he did. If you think the bible explains the purpose of life, I want to know where. Quote a verse or GTFO.
BreaksFast 4 months ago
@BreaksFast First off.. Science isn't a religion It's mans research. Second.. The bible is a collection of books which do contain some truth of God.
The purpose of life has been explained in the Holy Quran:
51:56 ''I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to worship''
67:2 ''[He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed''
Proof of God existence explained by a professor of embryology watch?v=JGCP0L3GCXE&feature=related
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo OK, so the koran says that allah made us for the purpose of worshiping him?? IS THAT IT?!? Are you telling me the only reason the entire universe and ALL of mankind exist is simply to worship allah? Fucking hell, that's shit as mate. Well, I guess allah isn't so perfect then. I mean, if he was perfect, he would be complete, whole. But if he had a desire for people to worship him, it meant he was missing something, he wanted more, he longed for it, therefore incomplete and not perfect.
BreaksFast 4 months ago
@BreaksFast Before you judge the Quran have you read it? If not i advise you to do so before making any judgements. The meaning of worship covers a whole load of aspect of life for example: Helping the needy, being good to your parents and neighbours, being grateful to the creator for all he has given us and not associating him to man or to Jesus and so on.. The Quran will explain your existents, all you have to do is read it.
watch?v=fuaMXjFTM6A
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo No, you're missing the point. I want to know why a perfect being, who was completely content, absolutely happy and DESIRED nothing would all of a sudden just think to itself: "Oh, I know, I should make a universe and put people in it!" WHY would it do that? It simply does not matter how much theists love to believe religion gives their OWN personal lives a purpose and reason, not a single one can EVER give a good answer as to the meaning of LIFE. Not the meaning of your life, just LIFE.
BreaksFast 4 months ago
@BreaksFast A Christian priest will explain the meaning of life but when you look in the scriptures its totally different. I can explain to you the meaning of ''LIFE'' but it will be better for you to do your own research by reading the Quran. The Quran will give a broader understanding of life and the purpose of creation you just have to read it my friend.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@oOADROo "I can explain the meaning of "LIFE"..." well.....go on then.
BreaksFast 4 months ago
@BreaksFast The purpose of life is to do what the stars, the planets, the moon, the sun and the earth are doing, submitting to the laws of the creator and not transgressing those laws.
The big bang theory (Quran, 21:30)
''Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were (once) a joined entity, then We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?''
It's all there in black and white you just have to read it my friend.
oOADROo 4 months ago
@BreaksFast we as humans on earth are on earth to get tested (according to the Quran) by our wealth and how we spend it and so on... and then in the hereafter we get rewarded according to our deeds. That is the special thing about humans: god made us have a free will to decide between good and bad, and there is a hereafter for humans but not for animals (because the don't have free will). i hope you understand me
yaqubali 4 months ago
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my question for you is this ,God said He God made man in His image in Genesis ,and then God said that man was above all the creatures on earth, made in Gods image and God gave man dominion over all the earth and the creatures therein ,so today even after 6000 years we can visibly see that man has always held that place in the world,so therefore can you continue to refute this evidence and stay in your lies???????????
majorl311 5 months ago
@majorl311 What? evolution happens over millions of years, and we have fossil records to prove it. fyi, evolution happens when things reproduce with a small variance of genetic change; if one genetic change reproduces more offspring than another, then that mutation was clearly better. For example: if a conniver has genetic mutation that gives him longer teeth, then it will be able to eat better, live longer, and reproduce more offspring. these are not lies.
populer208 4 months ago
@populer208 now you believe this stuff,it has gone from theory to facts that evolution answers all the questions,God made man in His image and God gave man dominion over all the earth,if you followed the cells mitochondria ,which is only in mothers it goes back to the mother of all mothers,mitochondrial eve,police used to use the outdated methods you use but now they use the latest science ,DNA that is,so God made man and then God used a similar pattern for apes and that has you mixed up!
majorl311 4 months ago
@majorl311 "Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." Mark Twain
populer208 4 months ago
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@populer208 Yes well I believe the Bible that says God made man in His image and gave him ,man,dominion over all the other creatures in the earth,note ,we have dominion over all the earth still today,we are the most intelligent species on the earth,some lack common sense however,back to that evolutions have brought us down to just another animal ,just a cousin of the apes,lowering us from our position in God plan,and it is a lie!
majorl311 4 months ago
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@majorl311 @majorl311 You are a fucking pussy, you hide behind myths and superstitions and claim you are better. You also are a fool to think you are giving anything to anybody. You once again are proving, you are a delusional fucking moron. Your god does not exist and I will die before I submit to your myths and superstitions, you pathetic religious terrorist. There is no proof of your god. Go Fish, you dipshit.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@majorl311 God is an ancient, archaic primitive primate concept used to explain the unknown, it has long ago been proven to be false, why you think it is correct and claim it to be logical is beyond anything an intelligent human would even consider in the realm of reality. You have a problem with letting the primate part of your brain control you reasoning. You are a delusional fucking moron.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 Yes Mike we know that that is your belief,and read what you just said because that is your creed and your belief system ,we get that !
majorl311 4 months ago
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@majorl311 It's not my belief it is fact you fucking delusional moron. Your god is make believe and more proof we evolved from primates, you fucking idiot.
"I will not call what is beyond my understanding a "God", that's what cavemen did. Anytime they didn't understand something, they created a God to explain it. We have evolved past this, I think...I hope... " - Me
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@populer208 Mark Twain was right and "majorl311" is one of the biggest fools and bigotry pushers there are. He is, more proof of evolution, and our primate origins.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@majorl311 I will no more submit to your religion than you would submit to Islam and the Koran. It's a rather easy concept, neither one has any proof, none. They both are utterly ridiculous, they both are just myths and superstitions. Neither one has, or ever had, a monopoly on societies morals and ethics. The fact you value your religion's god over what really matters,( Family, friends, and community really are what come first), proves you do not know what morals and ethics of our society are.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
Any loud noise or startling occurrence MAY be a threatening predator, so we (i.e. animals) are geared to "put a face to natural phenomena". And end up putting a face on what ever what do not know or can not explain: Hence Jesus, Satan, demons, God, angels, Bigfoot, etc. Man came up with the idea and invented the notion of a god. It was his ignorant, catch all, explanation for the unknown.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@majorl311 WOW! Did you make this up yourself or did your guardian angel dictate it for you?
SissingPyd 4 months ago
@SissingPyd get off the drugs quit watching Harry Potter and Family guy before its too late!
majorl311 4 months ago