Excellent. At first I wasn't sure sbout the song, but your editing, and timing was perfect. And, in the histories written on Alexander, Bagoas is referred to as Alexander's ἐρόμενος, (eromenos) his lover. Bagoas is the only person referred to in that manner.
why does that matter???? Bagoas was obviously more into alexander than any of the girls???? that is an incredibly discriminative statement you dare to make
Hey people I am persian and love my HIJAB nation with rough men. I honour my ancestors with my video "HOMOSEXUALITY IN PERSIA-THE TRUTH" I will teach the world about my EUNUCH , KIR licking ancestors.. THIS IS PEDOPHILIA!
You mean you are Iranian ! Now they do not seem to use the word Perisan any more.
Besides can you have an eunuch, especially with those mad Ayatollahs ruling your great country. ? .
I think that the new religeons such as Islam and Christianity do not tolarete homosexuality. That is why even Greece is shame of it now.! That is the reason Greece did not allow Oliver Stone to film Alexander, in Greece as they were annoyed about the gay scenes in this film !
Greeks called it persia ,from Perses the son of Greek king perseus and princess Andromeda. Read herodotus book 6, sections 61 and 150. Iranians never called their country persia always "aryana"
What are you talking about? A class of men, selected for their beauty and effeminate manners, were castrated for the benefit of sexual deviates who preferred them to women. Bagoas
was one such. He may have known Alexander. The whole concept is at odds with Islam, wwhich does not uphold
homosexuality. Homosexuality in Persia was NOT the truth, or there would not be
present day Iranians. Homosexuals don't have children, grandchildren or descendents. OK with that?
Gay as an identity is a 20th century construct. Before Judaism and Christianity got a strong foothold, bisexuality was very common. (the Third Crusade essentially failed because of a lovers' spat between Richard the Lion-Hearted and Phillip of France)
Alexander was married to Roxanne. That Hephastion shared his bed is not in doubt. Historians are mixed on the existence of Bagoas.
I think there has been evidence proving the existence of Bagoas, I may be wrong.
But actually I just wanted to say "Finally, someone who knows about history!" There have been so many people just saying "Omg! He gay?! lolol" *cringe*
Actually, historians have been mixed on the exact nature of Alexander's relationshi with Hephastion. Although it's true that most historians now with a few exceptions would agree that they were lovers, historians in the past (and especially from different historical periods) have denied sexual relations.
As for Bagoas, while he is not mentioned in a few accounts, many of the historians of Alexander's time did write of him. The most famous example is the account by Curtius, who explicitly calls Bagoas Alexander's eromenos ("beloved"/younger male lover). Furthermore, both Plutarch and Dicaearchus recorded an event when Bagoas had just won a dancing contest during the return from India. Alexander's men called for him to kiss Bagoas - the scene in Mary Renault's book and in the movie.
I thought Bagoas was the saddest character in the history of Alexander's life. See he was made into a eunuch at such a young age and passed around as a sex slave until Alexander took him in. But even then, Alexander probably only loved Hephastion and Roxanne. Bagoas was like a servant than a lover. -_- I hope Bagoas did eventually find true love, though he wasn't important enough to be followed by historians of that time...Still, I wish Alexander and Bagoas would be together...
Whoa! Intersting guy. And I can't believe that an US-made movie actually dared to keep the homosexuality in greek antiquity. I mean, just look at 300. Just for that I might have to rent this movie.
You noticed the lack of gayness in 300 too? I mean the Spartans were famous for keeping their boys away from women until they were middle aged almost. Homosexuality from king to soldier was the extreme norm. But we can't have that in a tough guy film can we? XD
OMG male homosexuality! Might scare away the teenage boys who are the movie industrie's meat and potatoes. There sources written by the spartans themselves state that the women wore beards in the wedding nights because their husbands were used to that on their partners. Also, they didn't mind a bit of adultery if the aim was to get strong children. Greek antiquity is not a good place for christian morals.
Yeah, it was common practice in sparta for an older male to take on a younger subordinate male. It was also very common for the relationship to be sexual. That's why a lot of historians say they worked so well in the battle fields because they were in love with each other. BUT! An interesting fact - in the movie 300, Lionitus makes a gay slander about the Athenian men, calling them "boy lovers". I just thought it was a bunch of crap to put that completely unnecessary one liner in there
Yeah, but movies like 300 aren't really focused on historical accuracy. The costumes might be attractive and certainly attract the audiences, but the Spartans wore armor, not speedos. It's just sad that the movie helps with misinformation on the sexuality of warriors like the Spartans and Alexander & his army, especially when the historical truth is the exact opposite.
is it so wrong to find bagoas so cery beautiful! like he's not hot. he's pretty, like beyond pretty, wow! And he dances amazing! francisco bosch is love!
lesbians and lesbian shows are more accepted because (straight)men are the ones who choose to make such shows/movies...and we all know that men love women on women "action"...
I personally wasn't offended by the homosexuality in this movie, I hope they make more like them. ^.^
This film shocked a lot of poeple do to the homosexuality. People want to see a manly man being attracted to women and not to other men, even if the guys they are attracted to look more like women than man. It is interesting to observe, though, that lesbians are far more accepted - look at the popularity of shows like "The L World". I wonder why there is this double-standard?
This video is named right, Bagaos is so DAMN sexy. I am a woman and he does it for me. such a waste for women everywhere if he is really gay. :( he is Gorgeous.
I'd love to see it if you ever do a revised version with the third movie! And Jonathan Rhys Mayers looks awesome too! ^^ Great vid and nice choice of effects.
Bagoas has a bigger part in the third version that was released (Alexander Revisited: The FInal Cut). He actually talks! *huggles Bagoas* I love this video.
It wasn't Taboo for anyone. Homosexuality was looked at in a completely different way in that time. Era has to be taken into consideration before you pass judgement on how someone was likley to act.
bagoas you sexy thing! good job! I dunno why everyone's gettin worked up cuz of this, alexander wasn't gay, but he did sleep with guys from time to time...? LOL, besides it wasn't taboo for a king in those days. god forbid what i would have done to bagoas if i was alexander *drools all over herslef*
Thank you sooooooooo sooooooooo much for making this video,it's BRILLIANT! I've been watching this for 2 hours! I love Bagoas!! He is soooooo SEXY!!!!!!!
Yes you have, but I love hearing it! -waves off the bows- I would say I'm the daughter of Zues and should be worshiped, but that would mean that Alexander and I were half siblings and I can't have that. XDD
Thank you so much for givingme this idea. I know you thought it'd be good for a sexy Alexander vid but this worked so much better~~ see my exclaimation mark has a mind of it's own too.
I think I need a cold shower. Sooo Hot !
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lillysnape72 6 months ago
he is hot !!!
angelika1g6a 1 year ago
Bagoas (Francisco Bosch) sure is pretty.
TheAquarianWarrior 1 year ago
@TheAquarianWarrior Much more than simply pretty! He's a god! *__*
saimonross69 1 year ago
Excellent. At first I wasn't sure sbout the song, but your editing, and timing was perfect. And, in the histories written on Alexander, Bagoas is referred to as Alexander's ἐρόμενος, (eromenos) his lover. Bagoas is the only person referred to in that manner.
BagoasThe1st 2 years ago
Yes, but history refers to Hephaistion too as Alexander's lover.
sahajad 2 years ago
Thats what you call ANDROGYNY!!!
Khonsu1212 2 years ago 2
Alexander wasn't even gay...
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
To define a man who has a sexual relashonship with another man gay is the notion forced by the modern world.
Then you should read Michel Foucault.
Bnesque 2 years ago
Feel bad at that time these little servant boys had to be eunuch, therefore they won't be able to sleep with other girls.
pitherra 2 years ago
why does that matter???? Bagoas was obviously more into alexander than any of the girls???? that is an incredibly discriminative statement you dare to make
STALKA13 2 years ago
Where as the character is gay, might I add...
Bagoas was castrated as a young boy >>
So pretty hermy indeed?
I don't know what you'd call him truly...
Besides sexy.
HaruPassedOutAgain 2 years ago
We can call Bagoas the most beautiful eunuch in Persia.
Bnesque 2 years ago 3
Amen to that. XD
HaruPassedOutAgain 2 years ago
How many Persian eunuchs have you seen ?
sahajad 2 years ago
Just read MARY RENAULT!!!
Bnesque 2 years ago
Yes, I read the book the Perisan Boy- By Mary Renault. it was very interesting and it gives us a glmpse in to the lives of the anceint Persians !
sahajad 2 years ago
That's great!
Bnesque 2 years ago
"Pederasty was embraced in numerous other public spaces in Persia
from taverns to military camps, gymnasiums, bathhouses and coffeehouses.
little boy houses of prostitution (AMRAD KHANEH) were recognized, tax-paying establishments.
In persia ,it was the norm to keep young boys in the Harems
for satisfying the sexual appetites of their masters.
In persian society "bache-bazi"
or "sexual play with young boys" has been a social norm for many centuries"
AmirBagoas 2 years ago
Hey people I am persian and love my HIJAB nation with rough men. I honour my ancestors with my video "HOMOSEXUALITY IN PERSIA-THE TRUTH" I will teach the world about my EUNUCH , KIR licking ancestors.. THIS IS PEDOPHILIA!
ZENDEBAD kondeyeh koonkesh iran EUNUCH pride!
AmirBagoas 2 years ago
You mean you are Iranian ! Now they do not seem to use the word Perisan any more.
Besides can you have an eunuch, especially with those mad Ayatollahs ruling your great country. ? .
I think that the new religeons such as Islam and Christianity do not tolarete homosexuality. That is why even Greece is shame of it now.! That is the reason Greece did not allow Oliver Stone to film Alexander, in Greece as they were annoyed about the gay scenes in this film !
sahajad 2 years ago
i know persian is not even a iranian word, never was. KIRAM TO KOONET iran
AmirBagoas 2 years ago
Allright please let me know what the Persians called their country all these centuries.
Who called it Iran, and who called it Persia ?
sahajad 2 years ago
Greeks called it persia ,from Perses the son of Greek king perseus and princess Andromeda. Read herodotus book 6, sections 61 and 150. Iranians never called their country persia always "aryana"
AmirBagoas 2 years ago
What are you talking about? A class of men, selected for their beauty and effeminate manners, were castrated for the benefit of sexual deviates who preferred them to women. Bagoas
was one such. He may have known Alexander. The whole concept is at odds with Islam, wwhich does not uphold
homosexuality. Homosexuality in Persia was NOT the truth, or there would not be
present day Iranians. Homosexuals don't have children, grandchildren or descendents. OK with that?
bookkeeper57 1 year ago
@bookkeeper57
i dont get u... Islam ?! at that time?! rofl! btw, homos have been everywhere dude!
a nice eunuch boy for sex , or a harem keeper, is bullshit or at least isn't Bagoas !
Bagoas was a eunuch that had political power !! read about eunuchism, it was everywhere !
learn about Bagoas
STUPID MOVIE !
cleverlybideIt 9 months ago
hahahah PUAG que asco porfavor +o(
xMyChemToDeathx 2 years ago
he cute but he really looks like wanna those pretty girls
tmvchick 2 years ago
2:13 THATS HOT! freakin lucky guy! =[ lol
CheerBoyX1 2 years ago 3
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oh my god is puting gods name in vain
aajdjr 2 years ago
It's not their gods with that prohibition. So what's your point?
valarltd 2 years ago
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thou shalt not put thy gods ame in vain
aajdjr 2 years ago
...I don't think she put his 'ame' in vain.
kyoyukidegus 2 years ago
he really looks like a girl... a pretty girls
himmler2121 2 years ago
帅哥就是这么炼成的。
charening 3 years ago
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KahlilZajic 3 years ago
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KahlilZajic 3 years ago
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Eww. Bagoas was the one of the ugliest men in Alexander, and he's not like a man, he looks like a drag queen.
Kamiloote 3 years ago
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KahlilZajic 3 years ago
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hehe, that guy is totally gay
FairyHelena 3 years ago
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Lmao. What a crap Music.
easynowww 3 years ago
The character is. The actor isn't, as far as I know.
Merytsetesh 3 years ago
Yeah, i knooooow! :) i meant the CHARACTER's gay...:)anyways i like this movie
FairyHelena 3 years ago
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KahlilZajic 2 years ago
a propоsito, ¿por que Cassandro esta en el video?
dav20099 3 years ago
¡Me mucho gusta este video! ¡Gracias! ¡Bagoas es muy sexual!
dav20099 3 years ago
yeah he's drop dead gorgeous
oh my god bagoas *drools*
5 stars<333
motanashu 3 years ago 4
I just love this video! :D
Pure Hotness!!
BlindedJustice 3 years ago
man that bagoas surely looks like a woman with that sweet innocent look on his face man he's soooo hot n he's sure a man in bed;p anyways gr8 vid thx
manadarkmagiciangirl 3 years ago
alexgandra=gay? lol
maheroho 3 years ago
Bisexual.
Gay as an identity is a 20th century construct. Before Judaism and Christianity got a strong foothold, bisexuality was very common. (the Third Crusade essentially failed because of a lovers' spat between Richard the Lion-Hearted and Phillip of France)
Alexander was married to Roxanne. That Hephastion shared his bed is not in doubt. Historians are mixed on the existence of Bagoas.
valarltd 3 years ago 9
I think there has been evidence proving the existence of Bagoas, I may be wrong.
But actually I just wanted to say "Finally, someone who knows about history!" There have been so many people just saying "Omg! He gay?! lolol" *cringe*
Elendira 3 years ago
Actually, historians have been mixed on the exact nature of Alexander's relationshi with Hephastion. Although it's true that most historians now with a few exceptions would agree that they were lovers, historians in the past (and especially from different historical periods) have denied sexual relations.
bloodredrosez 3 years ago 2
As for Bagoas, while he is not mentioned in a few accounts, many of the historians of Alexander's time did write of him. The most famous example is the account by Curtius, who explicitly calls Bagoas Alexander's eromenos ("beloved"/younger male lover). Furthermore, both Plutarch and Dicaearchus recorded an event when Bagoas had just won a dancing contest during the return from India. Alexander's men called for him to kiss Bagoas - the scene in Mary Renault's book and in the movie.
bloodredrosez 3 years ago 9
valarltd: great comment...I guess a man would love whoever he did, without social/religious hangups....a pity the church went paranoid !
rickT5555 3 years ago 3
@valarltd
I thought Bagoas was the saddest character in the history of Alexander's life. See he was made into a eunuch at such a young age and passed around as a sex slave until Alexander took him in. But even then, Alexander probably only loved Hephastion and Roxanne. Bagoas was like a servant than a lover. -_- I hope Bagoas did eventually find true love, though he wasn't important enough to be followed by historians of that time...Still, I wish Alexander and Bagoas would be together...
arescraft 1 year ago
He was so hot x.x
Zerodomon 3 years ago
this guy is francisco bosch!!
elephant175525 3 years ago
i just wanna ask what's this song is and sung by whom?anyone can answer?
huxleyss 3 years ago
Oh my god - Pink
mencaribintangtimur 3 years ago
good video
i thought
angelina jolie
looked hott in it.
so did rosario dawson, and colin ferrel.
freakmonkeys 3 years ago
You just wish you could be alexander and kiss Bagoas....OMG i love him soooooo much.
One of the best videos ever!!!
;) Love it!
tiggientash 3 years ago
OMG...this video of Bagoas is great
He is so sweet and sexy....i love him.... he is mine!!!!!!
Thx you tube for this video
xxx
tiggientash 3 years ago
But... he is like a woman... OMG!!!
malakalanha 3 years ago
i always found him too beautiful to be a guy
hhhdncr 3 years ago
i think this movie was unique..i was not offended either by the homosexual scenes in it
angelit161 3 years ago 2
Whoa! Intersting guy. And I can't believe that an US-made movie actually dared to keep the homosexuality in greek antiquity. I mean, just look at 300. Just for that I might have to rent this movie.
Excellent choice of song, too.
RabiaB 4 years ago 4
You noticed the lack of gayness in 300 too? I mean the Spartans were famous for keeping their boys away from women until they were middle aged almost. Homosexuality from king to soldier was the extreme norm. But we can't have that in a tough guy film can we? XD
hephaistion888 3 years ago 3
OMG male homosexuality! Might scare away the teenage boys who are the movie industrie's meat and potatoes. There sources written by the spartans themselves state that the women wore beards in the wedding nights because their husbands were used to that on their partners. Also, they didn't mind a bit of adultery if the aim was to get strong children. Greek antiquity is not a good place for christian morals.
RabiaB 3 years ago 2
"Greek antiquity is not a good place for christian morals."
THAT... was brilliant! *roll*
darkphoenixbc 3 years ago
Yeah, it was common practice in sparta for an older male to take on a younger subordinate male. It was also very common for the relationship to be sexual. That's why a lot of historians say they worked so well in the battle fields because they were in love with each other. BUT! An interesting fact - in the movie 300, Lionitus makes a gay slander about the Athenian men, calling them "boy lovers". I just thought it was a bunch of crap to put that completely unnecessary one liner in there
RogueNinja16 3 years ago 3
Yeah, but movies like 300 aren't really focused on historical accuracy. The costumes might be attractive and certainly attract the audiences, but the Spartans wore armor, not speedos. It's just sad that the movie helps with misinformation on the sexuality of warriors like the Spartans and Alexander & his army, especially when the historical truth is the exact opposite.
bloodredrosez 3 years ago 3
the Spartans were naked........and movies like this arent really supposed to be accurate, its to tell a story
MangledxImagination 3 years ago
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I hated this guy...god..blaaa he kissed him in the mouth...bljakThis survent
kralicanamakedonija 4 years ago
I AM SO GOING TO SEE THIS MOVIE NOW!
mytwinflame 4 years ago
is it so wrong to find bagoas so cery beautiful! like he's not hot. he's pretty, like beyond pretty, wow! And he dances amazing! francisco bosch is love!
purfectgurl 4 years ago
I so agree he is very beautiful!
SamWinchester 4 years ago
lesbians and lesbian shows are more accepted because (straight)men are the ones who choose to make such shows/movies...and we all know that men love women on women "action"...
I personally wasn't offended by the homosexuality in this movie, I hope they make more like them. ^.^
FemmeBleu 4 years ago 3
This film shocked a lot of poeple do to the homosexuality. People want to see a manly man being attracted to women and not to other men, even if the guys they are attracted to look more like women than man. It is interesting to observe, though, that lesbians are far more accepted - look at the popularity of shows like "The L World". I wonder why there is this double-standard?
PCoderch 4 years ago 3
wow that's a really beatiful guy, and good dancer too.
Blackjack185 4 years ago 2
Bagoas is sooooo lovely but the movie is soooo bad it doesn't even make good footage for a fanvid. What a shame.
Francisco Bosch as Bagoas is really a whole new level of gorgeous human being.
TKeid 4 years ago
This video is named right, Bagaos is so DAMN sexy. I am a woman and he does it for me. such a waste for women everywhere if he is really gay. :( he is Gorgeous.
ginginnyme 4 years ago
His personal website says that he's gay >.>
jennieve01 4 years ago
:''( (crying)...
ginginnyme 4 years ago
That actually makes me more happy! Because now all of the dirty things I imagine him doing are true. :) So cheer up.
Merytsetesh 4 years ago
lol
ginginnyme 4 years ago
OMG somebody knows if I can find Alexander Revisited (the final cut) in Europe (zone 1)...? Please help me I'm desperate LOL
Matrioschka 4 years ago
he is the most beautiful boy i have ever seen,the music is also very good,^_^
wwjlilian 4 years ago 3
I'd love to see it if you ever do a revised version with the third movie! And Jonathan Rhys Mayers looks awesome too! ^^ Great vid and nice choice of effects.
Zelleth 4 years ago
Thats a beautiful man...
trakstarz07 4 years ago
Oooooh man, I forgot how much i loved this *huggles you for making it*
MangoPrincessRobyn 4 years ago
i dont really like bagoas, but the video is good. i think your other videos are better
cocoice07 4 years ago
This almost makes me want to buy the dvd...
Almost.
CamuiSheila 4 years ago
i love that video;**
Olimpias56 4 years ago
Immmmmmmmmmmm i notice some diffrence i have seen it befor looks diffrent.Why?
laylaoftroy 4 years ago
Bagoas has a bigger part in the third version that was released (Alexander Revisited: The FInal Cut). He actually talks! *huggles Bagoas* I love this video.
kaiyasumeragi 4 years ago
For such few scenes with Bagoas in them, you did really well!
merryb 4 years ago
So funny! Alexander on the ceiling - cracked me up. I'm strange. XD Bagoas indeed rules!
MeredithWhite 4 years ago 2
when christianity took over most of the world, the view on homosexuality changed.
piperpiper 5 years ago
I love this video. Any promotion of male homosexuality is a beautiful thing
chupetarubia 5 years ago 2
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And females can rot, is that it? Moron.
SpeedofPaine 5 years ago
why do females have to rot? We eat it up like chocolate.
lacountess 4 years ago
agreed! :D
tegmentum 5 years ago
unfortunly i agree .although im agirl but they make it seem as if its magical thing specialy in historical movies
virgini39 4 years ago
That gave ME a special feeling....
tuttifuckinfrutti 5 years ago
It wasn't Taboo for anyone. Homosexuality was looked at in a completely different way in that time. Era has to be taken into consideration before you pass judgement on how someone was likley to act.
hephaistion888 5 years ago
damn i just cant get over it! this boy is beautiful damnit!
smukase 5 years ago
lol when u keep pausing+play it seems like the kiss is longer ^^
smukase 5 years ago
bagoas you sexy thing! good job! I dunno why everyone's gettin worked up cuz of this, alexander wasn't gay, but he did sleep with guys from time to time...? LOL, besides it wasn't taboo for a king in those days. god forbid what i would have done to bagoas if i was alexander *drools all over herslef*
smukase 5 years ago
Thank you sooooooooo sooooooooo much for making this video,it's BRILLIANT! I've been watching this for 2 hours! I love Bagoas!! He is soooooo SEXY!!!!!!!
missrocktacious 5 years ago
Have I ever told you that I love you? Because I really really really do! FREAKING AWESOME! *bows* You are the greatest! *worships*
SlytherinGirl 5 years ago
Yes you have, but I love hearing it! -waves off the bows- I would say I'm the daughter of Zues and should be worshiped, but that would mean that Alexander and I were half siblings and I can't have that. XDD
hephaistion888 5 years ago
I love bagoas, he is so sexy, thanks soo much for making this video, it one of my favorits!!
michellekingston9 5 years ago
Your so welcome, but actually it was an incrediable pleasure to make. Looking at him for hours was way to much fun!!
hephaistion888 5 years ago
YES>>>OMG You did it...hugs..kisses..it's brilliant...yup forget an exclamation marks my keyboard developed a mind of it's on...
simitar66 5 years ago
Thank you so much for givingme this idea. I know you thought it'd be good for a sexy Alexander vid but this worked so much better~~ see my exclaimation mark has a mind of it's own too.
hephaistion888 5 years ago