Chin Na Demo

[TotalDeadEnd]

They probably bought each other a beer after it was all over.

[calyxcorona]

i'll post this before reading any comments....great work guys! your conditioning is excellent for sparring and indeed for a real conflict!!

[rpierini]

He could have landed that round kick at 1:25, what do you guys have to devend against such kicks?

[PsionSchamael]

Some really interesting techniques in there! Might look into Chin Na a bit more...

[chi854]

couldnt you practice chi na as a stand alone form of martial arts as long as you add kicking and punching?

[19thlohan]

@chi854 You could if you can find somebody to teach it to you that way. Usualy you have to study kung fu and learning chin na is part of it.

[MechPhantom]

@19thlohan so qinna is 99% just locks only huh? kk thx

[James1017233]

Ive seen some awsome chin na demos but you definatly got me intrested instead of learning moondokwan im definatly takeing this.

[xxxxxNUMBER1xxxxx]

chin na well more become effecttve if you also train in shuai jiao(chinese wrestling)

[ThePackerOfFudge]

this is awesome

[beauLIEU81]

which school is this? i was going to YMAA in Quebec last year with sifu Richard Levesque. Exellent teacher and he also was teaching long fist + white crane :P

[Localnomadmovies]

In my experience, Chin Na, works incredibly well in street fights as part of Wing Chun, perfect synergy,

[26095]

Tai bong le!

[umdpolska]

Po prostu Chin Na, wspaniała technika samoobrony jak i również technika obezwładniania i kontrolowania przeciwnika. Polecam "Chin Na in Depth" Jwing-Ming'a (dr Yang- mistrz kung-fu)

Kilku znajomych, trochę wolnego czasu i można trenować ;)

Pozdrowienia z Łodzi!!! biglarnia

[RhadeConstantine]

i wonder how many bones these ppl would break if they did this fast lol.

[maverikcslj]

If it's not that effective then why do police officers and military personnel want to learn true it it's difficult but when mastered it's almost more in stopping an attacker or just all around ahole. Very fluid awesome a kudos to the big dude you don't see many bodybuilders practiseing Kung Fu

[marius9]

Congratulations. This is one of the best Chin na demos I have ever seen! Neither person cheats a movement or gives one away to their opponent, and it shows the subtle movements of chin na well. If you don't have a good hold, you can find yourself in one faster than you think. I would like a lot of MMA fighters to see this as well, so they would shut up about Chinese arts not being effective. It's the practitioner, not the style, and this can give a sense of that philosophy. Great job guys!

[ProphetGuardian]

@marius9 Your absolutely right! Anyone who has studied Chinese Kung Fu/ Wushu fully. The Ti(kick), Da(punch), Shuai(wrestling), Na( jointlocks) are just as good as any MMA fighter. The MMA fighters have only seen the Ti and Da and not the whole system.

[papertiger7]

@marius9 Good comment. MMA fighters usually don't train joint locking techniques cause their illegal in sport competitions. Fights would end pretty quickly if they were allowed.

[marius9]

@papertiger7 True, small joint locks aren't allowed in MMA (fingers and toes) and yes, that does end fights quickly and effectively. No one wants to fight with a dislocated finger. I still hold that MMA locks are good effective ways of subduing one's opponent though. Arm bars are still joint locks, MMA just takes the breaking out of it, most of the time anyway. Still keep in mind that MMA comes from traditional arts, and is still a bonafide fighting style, just not the best to practice for..

[marius9]

@myself ...Best not to practice for longevity.  Damn 500 character limit!

[hentajus]

simple and very effective! chin na is great for street self defense

[CarNikolaj]

@hentajus Chin na is the most complicated of the 4 cathegories of martial techniques (punches, kicks, throws, chinna). Therefore it is not that ideal for "street self defense"

[pablingrioli]

donde lo puedo descargar?

[robertvoice]

@pablingrioli instala la barra de ant(.)com

[lordosaya]

sweet reversals!! 5 stars!

[RenshiKF]

Nice

[A1R5N1P3R]

Eh, I was very unfortunate, I only had a year to study Chin Na before my sifu headed back to China. But the few things I retained, have been amoungst those things I've used most in actual situations. There are so many very subtle moves if you do actually manage to get ahold of someones hand, lol.

[NreeKelBastardos]

There are so many lame demo's on youtube but this is GREAT! Nice work.

[kanezaki]

at 1:23 this is a reason why we shouldnt do a high kick in a real fight

[WilliamTabone]

yer this is kool ive done chin na for 11 yrs

[patbirder]

Awesome video! Thanks for posting.

[Dvivid]

Jim Noble has trained hard for many years to master chin na with Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming. This is the real deal.

[lifelongfriendjeff]

I studied this at Northern Chi, an extension of Dr. Yangs schools in Maine. I remember the lessons to be painful. Would not want to be on the receiving end of the demonstration.

[Spiritfox06]

This shit hurts like hell lol, I love it.

[GreenDragonMMA]

indeed it does

[commaslashdot]

very cool stuff here.

really like that thing at ~1:06-8

[snakethemack]

Hey! I think that one guy is Sifu James Noble. I Chi Na'd with him for a demo recently in Marshfield.

[eugeneshaolin]

That last exchange starting at 1:41 was quite a good demo. I saw an attempted hip throw flow countered by embracing throw, countered by an outside foot reap, and when that failed the big guy sits into a foot lock. Nice demo all around, but I especially like that last bit.

[bknives]

i just realised the guy on the right is like 120 kilos of solid muscle. He doesn't need to learn chin na! Just wrestling!

[Spiritfox06]

Isn't it amazing tho how a skinny guy could bring a big guy like that to his knees? My ten year old sister took out my dad who weighs like 240 pounds using Chin Na.

[jangear]

This form of Chin Na is different from the ones i seen. Did you guys mix it with ju-jitsu?..

[JohnnyLee18]

no man, many times you will see bad chin na or bad kung fu...this thing I was taught by my master also, so depend who you're taught by.I'd say that combination of chin na and wing chun is one of the most efficient...but no one knows.I rather like doing it than using it =)

[jangear]

Ving Tsun is a sister martial art of White Crane, Tai Chi and other Lion's Roar type of systems. These system hav their own Ch/Qin Na.

Well Chi/Qin Na is the one of the main principle of all Easter MA.

I did Ving Tsun i know what you mean. especially with chisal and bilji.

But what these guys did in this video i seen on ju jitsu thats why i asked.

[PARR53]

This style looks alot like Aikido that is linear in movement rather than circular. Nice vid.

[FaJingPower]

Nice demo !!!

[baraclude]

from what i know, chin na is used to make your enemy disabled(not breaking their body parts) in terms of locking their legs or arms.

[SQNBM]

Greetings to Dr.Yang and his students from the Bai Mei school at the 1985 MTSU demo

[hitthebed]

body massage...??

[Trinivalist]

Now imagine if MMA fighters were really MMA fighters... they would be incorporating alot more aspects of kung-fu... imagine you're on the ground about to pound a guy... he uses his arm to try and stop... giving way to a chin-na... We need to start looking at the arts holstically and incorporate as much as we can.

[dalrekantarah]

i agree with u but this is this is small joint manipulation

[ShinTopknot]

cant win a fight with a broken foot or wrist. a shame bjj is too pussy to allow finger locks.

[stardingo747]

..... and small joint manipulation is illegal in MMA. It was deemed "too dangerous" but, if you ask me, some of the big dudes were just chicken and seeking to negate one of the few advantages smaller fighters have.

[lolll666]

no dude, wrist locks are legal. fingers and toes are small joints

[Rackets1]

The last move of the big guy this leg lock move reminds me of Imanari apply technique

[Rackets1]

what is this Martial arts called?

Is it Wing tchun?

Or is it Wushu,Shuaijiao?

Tell me pls

[19thlohan]

Chin na is a part of all kung fu systems. We studied Long fist and white crane at this school

[vasilis]

Haha my sifu just showed my Chin Na class that spinal lock (At 1:06)!

[Kayne200]

cool

[KylerDurrdden]

I liked the spinal lock.

[1ToNJaB]

What is the 1st basic technique usually taught to a total beginner in this martial art. ?

[chibigatts]

technique?

there are too much to teach

you first start doing basic moves, like hitting the arm 20 times, very very basic, so after you can mix that moves, and then do more and more complex movements, i'll tell my teacher so to upload videos of the basic teaching, if he accept

[jdude05]

chin na seems great but does it teach fighting, like jeet kune do, or is it all about locks?

[19thlohan]

Chin na is not an art by itself it is the locking and choking part of kung fu.

[chibigatts]

if you want to fight you have sanda or sanshou, chin na is ONLY for defense

[christwarrior56]

sweet does chin na teach ground fighting

[19thlohan]

Some styles teach a little and some don't. It's minimal compared to ground fighting styles.

[Mudjin]

are there kung fu styles that teach primary ground fighting? I heard that Mantis consists some ground fighting.

[tonyarvelo]

I am a kung-fu teacher in the style of ying jow pai "eagle claw" its very close to chin na so there are a lot of locks,kung-fu styles dont real do ground fighting,its has to do with the culture,it wasint seen as the "civil" thing to do in combat.but there are some take downs but noting like ju-jitsu or wrestling.

[freefight9999]

if you study seriously, you will find ground fighting is as brilliant as shown in MMA completion. The groin or eye balls will easily be grapped or fingers being twisted.....

[stardingo747]

now, that style would be Shuia Jiao (chinese wrestling). Shuia Jiao, although a Chinese martial art is generally not called "Kung Fu." They are seen as two separate things. Even though Shuia Jiao has ground techniques, like Kodokan Judo it prefers to rely on throws. Shuia Jiao recognizes that people make mistakes, and sometimes it goes to the ground, however ground technique from what I read is used primarily "in an emergency," and the emphasis is to escape and stand back up.

[stardingo747]

the guy on the right is either a cop or a bodyguard, who has to learn it for his job.

the guy on the left is probably just a general student.

[19thlohan]

Umm, No! Neither is a cop or body guard. They were both assistant instructors in chin na from the Boston school.

[stardingo747]

sorry, must have been the asshole radiation he was emitting, my mistake.

[nlmantis]

Great Chin Na I recognize many techniques from Dr Yang's book. Excellent execution!

[JianChuanTaiChi]

five stars for me!

[jamescardinell]

great demo! i wish ratings weren't disabled so i could give it five stars. i'm a great fan of YJM's books- they're by far the best instruction in print, esp. in english! jiayou!

[brada11112]

so~~~~~~~~~cool

[brada11112]

so~~~~~~~~~cool

[Huhmasta]

damn can't believe I've never heard of this art.

[Pauljos79]

In Okinawa Karate it is called Tuite-jutsu

[struki84]

As far as i know its not a technique for itself but more a part of most of southern kung fu styles. I've learned some basics in my hung gar training(could be wrong tho). Trivia: free translation of "chin na" is "grab and control" witch is clearly demonstrated in the video

[higgo007]

Alive, practical and dangerous... i've trained with Jim and while his skill level is great. Doctor Yang, Jwing Ming's (his Sifu) is far, far superior. I've had the privelege to learn from both at vaious seminars :-)

[Jenfucius]

Very smooth! Its very good.

[yangclaw26]

That's Jim Noble doing most of the techniques. He is a great guy and top notch martial artist from Dr. Yang Jwing Ming's Jamaica Plain school.

[kepouer]

great chi na! thank's

[hseckink]

:) yes very nice. Thank you

[PUNK454]

cool

[fzkhan]

cool

[Tianshanwarrior]

cool

[nilsonmorhes]

very good!