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I suspect that very few people come to believe the "god" of the Bible because they find the Bible's evidence convincing. Generally they've already *decided* to believe--at least to believe in *something*--or they've been brought up to believe in that "deity."
Then the Bible becomes, not *convincing* for them, but CONFIRMING. And it is a fact of human psychology--it's called confirmation bias--that we will tend to find confirmation of things we already believe to be true! Everyone does that.
Here's a simple definition of Athiests, for Christians trying to prove to us God exists.
We want physical evidence and recorded proof we can see today.
God does not show that us, but science can. So we tend to follow which makes sense and can either be recreated or has been recorded in Scientific Standards.
So if you want to prove God to us, show us a picture of you being completely fucked up 4 years ago, missing arms and legs and God gave you them later on. That may twinger us.
In the harry potter books there exists a school called Hogwarts. At Hogwarts the children learn how to be a witch or a wizard. In several of the novels there is a mention of a steam train, steam trains actually exists, thus everything about harry potter must be true. We don't know about witches and wizards because they don't use their magic in front of us muggles but there really is such a thing as magic because harry potter books mention a train and they actually exist.
@CALICOTV301 It isn't real ....ah shit !!!!! Oh...I mean...Forgive me father, I have sinned.. The proof in wrestling is how they tuck their heads when thrown to the mat. The way the wrestlers stamp their feet , when they throw open fisted punches. You can actually tell , when they speak to each other when they are instructed to finish the match. It's actually pretty interesting.
The guy on the phone reminds me of the South Park show that hammered on the History Channel. They were saying, "You can't prove it DIDN'T happen, so it MUST be true." Sounds rather sophomoric.
Did you know that the worst statistics for teen pregnancies AND abortions are BOTH in the "Bible Belt" area ? The most porn customers live in Utah. IQ's drop as you go SOUTH. Do you deny that?
Most idiots are evangelical Christians. Sad. Still true.
There are some stupid atheists (with low IQ), but there are a lot more stupid Christians. That's a scientific fact, not an opinion. If you deny all of that, then you're simply dishonest.
Of all of the goofy characters in the Bible, how come nobody has dug up ANY of their dead bones? (OK.. I can actually make a very educated guess to answer that question, but I'm Atheist. I want a Christian's answer to that.)
After all the dust settles, we have only two choices. Either the universe brought itself into existence, or something outside the universe, an external cause brought it into existence. The problem is how something could brought itself into existence? Isn't possible, therefore the cause must be external. The only thing present was energy. The God of the Bible is described with the same attributes of energy before energy was described. The existence of God is the best explanation. Open your eyes
@dejesusluisx Either your god brought itself into existence, or something outside your god, an external cause, brought it into existence. If you believe your god did not require an external cause, there's no reason to assume the universe did, either.
The god of the christian bible is described as a sadistic psychopath. I've never heard energy described that way.
@YY4Me133 "If you believe your god did not require an external cause, there's no reason to assume the universe did, either" energy can't be created or destroyed, is eternal, that's an accepted scientific Law, so there is no argument possible. God has 100% of the attributes given to energy, so God can be defined as energy, on the other hand, energy has only a fraction of the attributes given to God, so energy can't be defined as God. The attributes you mention are based on wrong interpretations
@dejesusluisx You suggested that a god "is described with the same attributes of energy." Now you say that "energy has only a fraction of the attributes given to God, so energy can't be defined as God." I never defined energy as a god. I merely pointed out that your argument that the universe must have had an "external cause" can also be applied to a god. The big difference is that we know the universe exists, but there's no evidence that any god(s) exist(s).
@YY4Me133 "but there's no evidence that any god(s) exist(s)" there is plenty of evidence that supports the existence of God but there will never be absolute and direct evidence for His existence or faith would be gone. God respects our free will and wants us to go to Him freely. If you can't see this, you will live in the dark forever.
@YY4Me133 "Nothing real requires faith" Believing you are loved required faith, trusting your kids, lending money, deciding to become a musician, or an artist, gambling or just asking for any help requires faith. God is real, and requires faith to manifest in you.
@dejesusluisx I dont have the free choice to "go to god" because i dont believe a god exists...
If i dont believe that there is a dog on my head then i CANT believe in the dog on my head, even if i wanted to, EVEN if there actually is a dog there!
Id be an idiot to have faith in the head dog, even if it threatens to torture all who dont believe in its existance.
@Yahweigh "I dont have the free choice to "go to god" because i dont believe a god exists..." so, that is your choice, not God's, so be ready to face the consequences of your decisions.
@Yahweigh "how can i go to a god that i dont think is there?" you can't because you made a conscious decision not to believe, not to keep looking, not to follow the advice of many people that had told you there is a God and an afterlife. Is you choice not to be with God, so you won't be and after you die, will remain conscious in the eternal darkness so you will have plenty of time to think about all the opportunities you wasted (this being one of them) where you could had look for the truth.
@Yahweigh "Im saying that despite looking, i havent found a god" Of course you haven't and you won't, because God isn't a thing you can find under a rock, God is a conscious energy that lives in you, so you need to be honest and open minded for God to manifest itself. Until you are, you'll remain in the dark.
Suffering caused by man is a necessary consequence of free will. Most of the bad things that happen to us are due to ours or another person's decisions. Free will is God's greatest gift to mankind and He would not take that away by intervening constantly. God can't be obvious or Faith and free will would be gone, and we would be God's slaves, which would be contrary to His creation intent. A world where man can't freely choose to harm is not truly free.
@TMeerkat8 "i choose not to go to hell. ok no need to be christian now is there" No, you can be a Muslim if you wish. Not going to hell require a little more legwork than just wishing it. You need to be in God's wavelength, what we call grace. Now good luck trying to achieve grace without spiritual guidance, you'll need it.
@TMeerkat8 God is energy and to be in tune with energy, you need to be in it's same wavelength. The same with God, you need to be in His wavelength to be saved. Buddhists call it Nirvana or Enlightenment, Hindus call that Moksha, Islam calls it Taubah and we call it living in Grace. There's only one Divine Consciousness with many names and dogmas, but just one reality. You can be spiritual and be one with God consciousness without religion, but to get somewhere, a map is always helpful.
@tellnet "Why fill your head with total nonsense -go out and enjoy the only life you will ever have" Imagine you're 16 and a doctor tells you that you have a terminal disease and will live only until 30. What would you do? Would you just party until that day comes? Or would you go to college and plan for the future? What if the doctor was wrong and by 31 you find out? Wouldn't you had wish you wouldn't had wasted your life partying and made a career to maintain yourself? Eternity is a long time
@dejesusluisx What if ? What if ? I, unlike you it seems, do not waste my waking hours with "What Ifs". And, yes - eternity is a very very long time - and every good reason to make the best of the ONLY LIFE YOU WILL EVER HAVE - regardless of it's actual length. What if - what if you accepted reality - how much richer and more enjoyable would the only reality you will ever experience be. Ah, what if. What if. What if. What if ifs were its and its were wishes with ... Ah.... what if
@tellnet ""What if - what if you accepted reality - how much richer and more enjoyable would the only reality you will ever experience be."" I did, I was a non-believer for almost 30 yrs, I already answered that what if. Have you answered the what if you would experience the GRACE of God? No, I'm not talking about going to church and waving your hands saying you believe, I'm talking about living a life in grace, free of sin, in a constant awareness of the Lord's presence in your heart. What if..
@tellnet "You accepted REALITY for a period of 30 years, or thereabouts" No, I was living an illusion, a materialistic, empty and selfish life, I was deluded for almost 30 yrs. I was living what most people call the dream, but a dream is not reality.
"There is no point in discussing this with you - you have voluntarily self deluded" No, I was in the dark and came out to the light.
@TMeerkat8 The fact that you do not need Jesus to live a life of love or that you don’t need religion to know God doesn’t change the fact they are crucial to attain those goals. The fact that you don’t need a Sherpa to climb the Everest doesn’t change the fact that there's little chance you can get to the top without them. Religions are a spiritual guides not a restraining shirts. Religion is a tool not a goal. The goal is love and if you live in love you live in God.
@FatRakoon Science vs religion is a false dichotomy. Mendel -father of Genetics, Lemaitre -physicist proponent of the BB, Copernicus, Ockham - Occam's razor, Mercally -creator of the earthquake scale, and over 200 scientists were Catholic priests. Many believers had embrace the scientific method to understand the world around us, and yet can discern there's a transcendent spirituality in all of us that science can't explain and only the knowledge and relationship with God can satisfy.
@cavemantiger The only way to know if there is a God is to look for it. You cannot look for it from a distance. To start looking you need to let go the things that won’t let you open your eyes to look. Everyone has them, some have wealth, power, hate, revenge, a big ego, or maybe skepticism (sounds familiar? that was mine too). If you hold on to those earthly “anchors”, you won’t start. I know you want to know the truth, otherwise why would you be wasting your time here?
@cavemantiger ""I don't want what i already have"" then what are you doing looking for atheists videos? searching for reasons not to believe? to sustain your faith in nothingness? I already told why I believe, I was a non-believer and found the truth.
@dejesusluisx Dont say ¨I found the truth¨ because noone knows if he exist or not, a massive claim needs massives amounts of evidence, The Fred Hoyle´s calculations are a fallacy, Evolution is a fact and even disproving it will not prove god, Is true some of them favors creation, even though they are not prove of it.
@TheWesmaister ""noone knows if he exist or not"" probably no atheist you mean, I know God exists, I have received manifestations, visions and revelations that confirms it. You can know this reality too if you care to look for it, if you open your mind to the possibility.
@dejesusluisx What are these so called "manifestations?" Because if you are seeing some old guy, you are hallucinating and are likely mentally ill. If you are hearing voices you are probably going schizo. Or, life could be happening to you like it always does and now you just make false attributions to something that isn't there. Religion IS a tool, but for no other purpose than for man to control his fellow man. Nothing else.
@cavemantiger The manifestations are personal, only I can understand them, and you can have them too if you decide to open your eyes and look for God honestly and sincerely.
@dejesusluisx Why would I want to look for lies and delusions? Much less ones that represent a masochistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, vain, prideful, ignorant, deceitful, murderous and evil christian god?
@cavemantiger You are refering to man made dogmas, God is a divine conscious energy that lives in you, search inside of you first, pray and meditate and you'll be rewarded.
@dejesusluisx No, THAT is a man made dogma. everything I described is in the bible. and if the bible is nothing but man made dogma, you have no reason to believe in a christian god.
@cavemantiger ""you have no reason to believe in a christian god"" I have many reasons to believe in God, but not in labels, labels are man made, God never wanted them, He didn't even wanted to be named.
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD People throughout the ages have been confused about God and had created weird dogmas to describe Him. There's only one God, one Divine Consciousness, one conscious energy that created the universe with many names and dogmas created by men over many centuries in our desire to understand His essence. Dogmas might be real or not, but God is real, and to understand that reality you need to be in tune w/ Him. We separate from God if we worship the wrong idea
@dejesusluisx Not only that, but you have displayed that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what science is and how it works, demonstrated by your continued use of the word proof. If you had even a basic understanding of science, it should have been ingrained in your feeble mind that science doesn't deal with proof. Proof is for mathematics and alcohol. You sir, are an idiot.
Said the mental midget with absolutely nothing coherent to say.
"stick to the rebuttal of the arguments"
I've been waiting all this time for you to actually produce one. All you've done so far is post a silly list and some garbled nonsense about god and string theory which makes absolutely zero sense to even those with a limited intellect. Maybe you should wear a helmet when you go outside to avoid further brain damage. ;)
@dejesusluisx Wow, right over your head. Anyways, I guess I will have to spell this out for you. An aneurism is not a bone, you daft fucking moron, and thus there is no way to fracture it. You are honestly one of the dumbest charlatans I've ever encountered.
@dejesusluisx "bones are not the only things that fracture.
Fracture: 1. the result of fracturing : break
2.a. the act or process of breaking or the state of being broken; especially : the breaking of hard tissue (as bone)
b : the rupture (as by tearing) of soft tissue (kidney fracture)
I was referring to 2b."
Wow, you have more brain damage than I gave you credit for! Saying you can fracture an aneurism is like saying you can fracture a heart attack or a stroke.
You obviously don't. By definition, an aneurism ISN'T soft tissue that you can fracture, it's 'an excessive localized ENLARGEMENT OF AN ARTERY CAUSED BY A WEAKENING OF THE ARTERY WALL'. In other words, it's something that happens, it's not a body part you fucking daft moron! You are so fucking thick, I have a hard time believing you can tie your own shoes without assistance. You FAIL....AGAIN! LOL
@dejesusluisx "Even after reading the definition, you still don't know what it is"
LMAO!! Wow, you are terminally stupid! Find me even one paper in the medical literature that talks about aneurism fractures. Just one. The only thing is, you can't because you can't fracture a fucking aneurism, dumbass!
"Even after reading the definition, you still don't know what it is"
Said the brain damaged teenage troll still living in his parents' basement. LOL You fail at life.
@dejesusluisx LOL More nonsensical drivel. You've made it quite obvious that you have no interest in exchanging ideas and that your primary interest is in trolling atheists with your idiotic rants. By the way, how's that search going for medical literature detailing aneurism fractures, imbecile?
@Stringprodigy If you look at the definition of fracture from Merriam-Webster, they have an example of kidney fracture. Now go and search the definition of kidneys to see if they are bones... of all the clueless trolls I've encountered, you take the price!!!
@dejesusluisx "If you look at the definition of fracture from Merriam-Webster, they have an example of kidney fracture."
What's your point, Simple Jack? I never said fractures were exclusive to bones you fucking retarded jackass. It doesn't even matter though, because as I explained to you previously, an aneurism IS NOT A BODY PART. God you are thick! LOL
@dejesusluisx "Now go and search the definition of kidneys to see if they are bones"
Hahahaha, put down the crack pipe, Simple Jack. That makes zero sense.
"of all the clueless trolls I've encountered, you take the price!!!"
LOL! I take the....price? Bahahaha. Yet another incoherent sentence that doesn't make any sense. Keep it up, Simple Jack! Can't wait to see what illogical drivel you come up with next.
Yet another incoherent statement proving you have significant brain damage. The correct statement would be "Did your PS3 fracture?" That was another free English lesson. You should be grateful I'm not charging you anything, Simple Jack. LOL
@dejesusluisx Just looking at the top comments, you can see that I'm not the only one that thinks you're a brain-dead troll. At least 14 other people think you are, and that's not including all the other comments directed at you from others. If it quacks like a duck....
@Stringprodigy I didn't expect much from atheists anyways... for entities that have a consciousness solely driven by instincts, being able to exchange ideas is an improvement.
@dejesusluisx You're really a glutton for punishment, aren't you? Ah well, you keep posting and I'll keep making you look foolish again and again, although you do a marvelous job of that yourself. Bravo!
"You can know this reality too if you care to look for it, if you open your mind to the possibility."
Wrong. Many atheists used to be devout Christians/Muslims/whatever. Stop assuming that we're simply "not trying" or that we have a "closed mind".
The reason that I personally am an atheist, is that throughout my entire life I NEVER experienced ANYTHING remotely supernatural, no matter how hard I prayed or how devout I was.
@VectorMatt ""Stop assuming that we're simply "not trying" or that we have a "closed mind"."" I'm talking about my own experience as a non-believer... if you don't believe is because you haven't tried honestly and sincerely, because you have earthly anchors you haven't got rid of, like skepticism, ego, materialism, etc. If you don't lift those anchors, you won't sail...
@dejesusluisx You know that personal experience is not evidence for god, Yes it justifies your belief but is doesnt prove that god exist, I have been a christian for 21 years, Dont tell me I dont tried.
@TheWesmaister If those where the first 21 yrs of your life, your story is similar to mine. I became a non-believer around that age, mainly due to the science knowledge I acquired at college. I was a non-believer for more than 25 yrs, but someone told me not to close my mind to the possibility and keep praying. When God thought I was ready, He send me the most compelling messages and evidence, tailor made to answer all my doubts. It was as if I can suddenly see the road far ahead
@dejesusluisx I am not close minded, Close minded means that you dont consider new ideas, I consider the possibility of a god but since there is no objective factual evidence of it is just a possibility, Sorry for my not so good english, I am not from an english speaking country.
@TheWesmaister ""I consider the possibility of a god"" How? are you praying? what is your sense of urgency? keep in mind if that possibility is actually real, you eternal life depends on it.
@dejesusluisx No I dont do that anymore, By considering the possibility of a god(s) I wanted to say that I dont deny the possibility of his existance but I dont believe one exist neither, I dont know if a god(s) exist, I dont believe in souls nor afterlife.
Just like how in Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy god can be proven not to exist because of the babel-fish. Since it's a fish that can't exist by chance (what about genetic engineering?), and since it had to be created, and god can only exist upon by having faith in him, proof that he exists thus invalidates his existence, thus he vanishes in a puff of logic.
@TheWesmaister There's plenty of scientific evidence that favors the existence of a force directing the universe than it coming into existence out of randomness. Here are a few:
1.The Penrose calculations
2.Fred Hoyle calculations
3.The string theory landscape model
4.The BB model for the beginning of the universe
5.The definition of energy
6. The existence of a self programming brain
All points towards a conscious force rather than pure chance.
@dejesusluisx I sure do. What's obvious is that you are an intellectual midget to present such ridiculous creationist canards. You clearly don't even understand them yourself.
@dejesusluisx If you understand these "arguments" *chuckle*, then you should be able to elaborate on and substantiate them. If you're up to the challenge, prepare to have your forthcoming nonsense thoroughly eviscerated by someone who has, unlike yourself, much more than a primary school education.
@Stringprodigy ""prepare to have your forthcoming nonsense thoroughly eviscerated"" you got lost in the first sentence of the first one, the only thing you'll eviscerate if you continue with arguing with me is your brain.
@dejesusluisx "you got lost in the first sentence of the first one, the only thing you'll eviscerate if you continue with arguing with me is your brain."
Ahahahahaha!!! What a lame comeback. All you've shown is that you are incapable of intellectually defending your silly ideas. Don't you think it's ironic that one of the biggest proponents of string theory, Leonard Susskind, does not believe in god and that no proponents of string theory use it to prove or disprove god?
@Numinous123 The string theory landscape postulates there must be at least 10^520 universes to make our existence plausible. God can't be disproved even if you see a trillion universes pup-up every second since the BB until this day for every atom of matter in the universe. That's about 10^110 and you need about 10^520. Not even the existence of a second universe had been proven, so to say we are the product of chance is absurd. Science makes God more plausible today than ever
@dejesusluisx "The string theory landscape postulates there must be at least 10^520 universes to make our existence plausible. God can't be disproved even if you see a trillion universes pup-up every second since the BB until this day for every atom of matter in the universe. That's about 10^110 and you need about 10^520."
LOL!!! What an absurd pile of unintelligible bullshit! You are hardly in any position to scold ANYONE for being clueless about cosmology, science, and logic.
@Numinous123 All things in the universe consists of matter or energy, so if God isn't matter, is energy by definition. Energy is capacity to do work, is eternal, omnipresent, can't be created or destroyed, can create matter, was the only thing present before the BB, and the energy required to make the universe must had been powerful. All these match Biblical descriptions of God. God matter creating abilities were defined before energy's. Energy confirms is plausible God exists
@dejesusluisx i love how you start with a presupposition then try to shoehorn anything you can find to validate it. "pure chance" go read some more bias christian articles by some bullshit christian "scientists" you twit.
@TheWesmaister There's plenty of scientific evidence that favors the existence of a force directing the universe than it coming into existence out of nothing. Here are a few:
1.The Penrose calculations
2.Fred Hoyle calculations
3.The string theory landscape model
4.The BB model for the beginning of the universe
5.The definition of energy
6. The existence of a self programming brain
All points towards a conscious force rather than pure chance. If you're unfamiliar, I can explain
In the USA alone by comparison, infinitely MORE atheists have actually READ the Bible, than Christians. Atheists actually HAVE arguments in support of their views, while Christians don't. Atheists are intelligent and educated, while most Christians are not. A typical Christian's respond to rejection of and the question why they believe the Bible? "Because the Bible says so."
Those are facts, not opinions. Sadly, Christians don't put much faith in facts, they prefer fairy tales and lies.
@gleehmee How about A LOT MORE? Athists as a group have higher IQ and MUCH HIGHER knowledge about religion, Christian and others. There are some stupid atheists (with low IQ), but there are a lot more stupid Christians. That's a scientific fact, not an opinion. If you deny all of that, then you're simply dishonest.
@gleehmee Atheists are SMARTER and know the Bible BETTER than "Christians", particularly "evangelicals", who on average did POORLY on a basic Bible test.
Sorry that this makes you mad. To claim otherwise just shows you simply know VERY LITTLE.
Did you know that the worst statistics for teen pregnancies AND abortions are BOTH in the "Bible Belt" area ? The most porn customers live in Utah. IQ's drop as you go SOUTH. Do you deny that?
Most idiots are evangelical Christians. Sad. Still true.
@Chelsea4President USA specifically, your abortion and teen pregnacy statistics are accurate, I don't see how porn matters to this though.
I reject your comments on IQ because IQ only mearsues specific parts of thought. It does not measure things like social skills, empathy, language abilities, artistic thoughts, creativity, etc, all of which are nessissary in modern society.
Please stop generalising, as if you're trying to attack christians, evangelicals arn't even the majority of them.
@gleehmee wrote: "I reject your comments on IQ because IQ only mearsues specific parts of thought. It does not measure things like social skills, empathy, language abilities, artistic thoughts, creativity, etc, all of which are nessissary in modern society."
Now the right wing Kool-Aiddrinkers are singing the praises of having a LOW IQ as something that "don't matter anyway".
Keep it up! Make everybody believe that profound flaws are beneficial and being a loser makes you a winner. YEEHAAWW!
@Chelsea4President Nice strawman. My initial comment to you was just correcting you only the "infinitely" statement, which is total nonsense given there are a finite number of people. From there you've gone on to demonstrate you're just bigoted against christians.
Some christians just havn't thought in depth about that specific area of their life, that does not make them stupid. Watch THIS SHOW more.
@gleehmee Yes, FACTS are always "strawmen". Truth is always lies. Here's the easy formula to use if you have no actual arguents: Just say NO and claim your opponent is the one with all of the flaws and failures attributed to YOU.
I know. It's a horrible feeling to be small and insificant. Why not simply claim that that's waht makes you big and superior.
You've learned your lessons very well. You've mastered turning shit into chocolate mousse. Remaining problem: Nobody wants any, so EAT UP!
@Chelsea4President No, mischaracterising my position is a strawman. You're posting the occasional fact but your main point is just wrong by this time. In your original post you were nearly right but exaggerating, but now you've shown your hand and it's a very bad hand. A bigotted hand.
As I said, watch THIS SHOW more, they covered these points far better than I in this very episode.
Your argument has been "other people are stupid, therefore I am right", which is not a good argument.
Holy shit, jeff has light brown hair! O.O
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I suspect that very few people come to believe the "god" of the Bible because they find the Bible's evidence convincing. Generally they've already *decided* to believe--at least to believe in *something*--or they've been brought up to believe in that "deity."
Then the Bible becomes, not *convincing* for them, but CONFIRMING. And it is a fact of human psychology--it's called confirmation bias--that we will tend to find confirmation of things we already believe to be true! Everyone does that.
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I hate it when people say "you know" every other sentence.
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Here's a simple definition of Athiests, for Christians trying to prove to us God exists.
We want physical evidence and recorded proof we can see today.
God does not show that us, but science can. So we tend to follow which makes sense and can either be recreated or has been recorded in Scientific Standards.
So if you want to prove God to us, show us a picture of you being completely fucked up 4 years ago, missing arms and legs and God gave you them later on. That may twinger us.
But you dont.
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It should be obligatory to study all the holy texts so people could see how they are all similar and not one is better than the other
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In the harry potter books there exists a school called Hogwarts. At Hogwarts the children learn how to be a witch or a wizard. In several of the novels there is a mention of a steam train, steam trains actually exists, thus everything about harry potter must be true. We don't know about witches and wizards because they don't use their magic in front of us muggles but there really is such a thing as magic because harry potter books mention a train and they actually exist.
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Ugh, erm, I believe you have my stapler..
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"...to a more serious standard"
*dog yelping in the background*
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Harry Potter is a much more interesting and consitant story then the bible.
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Chelsea4President 1 month ago
Christians also believe that wrestling is real
CALICOTV301 2 months ago
@CALICOTV301 It isn't real ....ah shit !!!!! Oh...I mean...Forgive me father, I have sinned.. The proof in wrestling is how they tuck their heads when thrown to the mat. The way the wrestlers stamp their feet , when they throw open fisted punches. You can actually tell , when they speak to each other when they are instructed to finish the match. It's actually pretty interesting.
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That dog in the background had a better argument then the caller.
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You almost feel sorry for the guy... :(
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Faith is confidence or trust in a person or thing, or a belief that is not a fact.! google faith lol
flexbrat 2 months ago
The guy on the phone reminds me of the South Park show that hammered on the History Channel. They were saying, "You can't prove it DIDN'T happen, so it MUST be true." Sounds rather sophomoric.
cdickenson64 2 months ago 2
I read Horton Hears A Who, so it's true. Little microscopic people live on flowers. And they all worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
TheCrimsonification 2 months ago 4
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Did you know that the worst statistics for teen pregnancies AND abortions are BOTH in the "Bible Belt" area ? The most porn customers live in Utah. IQ's drop as you go SOUTH. Do you deny that?
Most idiots are evangelical Christians. Sad. Still true.
There are some stupid atheists (with low IQ), but there are a lot more stupid Christians. That's a scientific fact, not an opinion. If you deny all of that, then you're simply dishonest.
Chelsea4President 2 months ago
My sister is a contortionist.
When she was 15 she decided that she must be a creationist christian.
When I asked her why this was, she said it was because she can stick her head up her own arse!
Marvellous!
FatRakoon 2 months ago 32
@FatRakoon creationists are also distortionists. They distort history and facts to fit. Can a contortionist do that with her body?
omnissience 2 months ago
@FatRakoon Hot.
witzig89 1 month ago
Of all of the goofy characters in the Bible, how come nobody has dug up ANY of their dead bones? (OK.. I can actually make a very educated guess to answer that question, but I'm Atheist. I want a Christian's answer to that.)
eajoseph217 3 months ago
haha, at first I thought it was the caller making dog sounds, and I was like "teh fuck?"
VanessaTexasGal 3 months ago
WTF happened to jeff's hair? o.o
speedx50 3 months ago
Nice haircut Jeff. Backstreetboys inspiration :-)
SamuelRust 3 months ago
nice hair jeff. hahaha
Nogoals92 3 months ago
After all the dust settles, we have only two choices. Either the universe brought itself into existence, or something outside the universe, an external cause brought it into existence. The problem is how something could brought itself into existence? Isn't possible, therefore the cause must be external. The only thing present was energy. The God of the Bible is described with the same attributes of energy before energy was described. The existence of God is the best explanation. Open your eyes
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx Either your god brought itself into existence, or something outside your god, an external cause, brought it into existence. If you believe your god did not require an external cause, there's no reason to assume the universe did, either.
The god of the christian bible is described as a sadistic psychopath. I've never heard energy described that way.
YY4Me133 3 months ago
@YY4Me133 "If you believe your god did not require an external cause, there's no reason to assume the universe did, either" energy can't be created or destroyed, is eternal, that's an accepted scientific Law, so there is no argument possible. God has 100% of the attributes given to energy, so God can be defined as energy, on the other hand, energy has only a fraction of the attributes given to God, so energy can't be defined as God. The attributes you mention are based on wrong interpretations
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx You suggested that a god "is described with the same attributes of energy." Now you say that "energy has only a fraction of the attributes given to God, so energy can't be defined as God." I never defined energy as a god. I merely pointed out that your argument that the universe must have had an "external cause" can also be applied to a god. The big difference is that we know the universe exists, but there's no evidence that any god(s) exist(s).
YY4Me133 3 months ago
@YY4Me133 "but there's no evidence that any god(s) exist(s)" there is plenty of evidence that supports the existence of God but there will never be absolute and direct evidence for His existence or faith would be gone. God respects our free will and wants us to go to Him freely. If you can't see this, you will live in the dark forever.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx Nothing real requires faith.
YY4Me133 3 months ago
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@YY4Me133 "Nothing real requires faith" Believing you are loved required faith, trusting your kids, lending money, deciding to become a musician, or an artist, gambling or just asking for any help requires faith. God is real, and requires faith to manifest in you.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx I dont have the free choice to "go to god" because i dont believe a god exists...
If i dont believe that there is a dog on my head then i CANT believe in the dog on my head, even if i wanted to, EVEN if there actually is a dog there!
Id be an idiot to have faith in the head dog, even if it threatens to torture all who dont believe in its existance.
Yahweigh 3 months ago
@Yahweigh "I dont have the free choice to "go to god" because i dont believe a god exists..." so, that is your choice, not God's, so be ready to face the consequences of your decisions.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx you dont understand...
I have no god to go to... i dont believe that one exists, so how can i go to a god that i dont think is there?
Yahweigh 3 months ago
@Yahweigh "how can i go to a god that i dont think is there?" you can't because you made a conscious decision not to believe, not to keep looking, not to follow the advice of many people that had told you there is a God and an afterlife. Is you choice not to be with God, so you won't be and after you die, will remain conscious in the eternal darkness so you will have plenty of time to think about all the opportunities you wasted (this being one of them) where you could had look for the truth.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx i never said that i have stopped looking...
Im saying that despite looking, i havent found a god.
Yahweigh 3 months ago
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@Yahweigh "Im saying that despite looking, i havent found a god" Of course you haven't and you won't, because God isn't a thing you can find under a rock, God is a conscious energy that lives in you, so you need to be honest and open minded for God to manifest itself. Until you are, you'll remain in the dark.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx part 2, im also curious as to why god wants to allow people to suffer, just because they dont know he is there?
Yahweigh 3 months ago
@Yahweigh Please be more specific.
Suffering caused by man is a necessary consequence of free will. Most of the bad things that happen to us are due to ours or another person's decisions. Free will is God's greatest gift to mankind and He would not take that away by intervening constantly. God can't be obvious or Faith and free will would be gone, and we would be God's slaves, which would be contrary to His creation intent. A world where man can't freely choose to harm is not truly free.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx I would trade my free will to do evil in a second.
I do not NEED the free will to do evil and if there is a god out there then i hope it would take my free will as i try to do any evil.
Faith is unnecessary and is not a good thing.
I could have faith that i am a deity...
I could have faith that a fairy exists...
Faith is not good.
Yahweigh 3 months ago
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@Yahweigh "Faith is unnecessary and is not a good thing" you need faith to surrender your free will to God, without faith is not possible.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx ok free will sounds sweet. i choose not to go to hell. ok no need to be christian now is there.
TMeerkat8 3 months ago
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@TMeerkat8 "i choose not to go to hell. ok no need to be christian now is there" No, you can be a Muslim if you wish. Not going to hell require a little more legwork than just wishing it. You need to be in God's wavelength, what we call grace. Now good luck trying to achieve grace without spiritual guidance, you'll need it.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@TMeerkat8 God is energy and to be in tune with energy, you need to be in it's same wavelength. The same with God, you need to be in His wavelength to be saved. Buddhists call it Nirvana or Enlightenment, Hindus call that Moksha, Islam calls it Taubah and we call it living in Grace. There's only one Divine Consciousness with many names and dogmas, but just one reality. You can be spiritual and be one with God consciousness without religion, but to get somewhere, a map is always helpful.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx
Why fill your head with total nonsense - go out and enjoy the only life you will ever have.
tellnet 3 months ago
@tellnet "Why fill your head with total nonsense -go out and enjoy the only life you will ever have" Imagine you're 16 and a doctor tells you that you have a terminal disease and will live only until 30. What would you do? Would you just party until that day comes? Or would you go to college and plan for the future? What if the doctor was wrong and by 31 you find out? Wouldn't you had wish you wouldn't had wasted your life partying and made a career to maintain yourself? Eternity is a long time
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
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@tellnet ""What if - what if you accepted reality - how much richer and more enjoyable would the only reality you will ever experience be."" I did, I was a non-believer for almost 30 yrs, I already answered that what if. Have you answered the what if you would experience the GRACE of God? No, I'm not talking about going to church and waving your hands saying you believe, I'm talking about living a life in grace, free of sin, in a constant awareness of the Lord's presence in your heart. What if..
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@dejesusluisx
By your own admission - You accepted REALITY for a period of 30 years, or thereabouts.
But now, you choose to deviate.... believing in nonsense instead.
There is no point in discussing this with you - you have voluntarily self deluded.
tellnet 3 months ago
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@tellnet "You accepted REALITY for a period of 30 years, or thereabouts" No, I was living an illusion, a materialistic, empty and selfish life, I was deluded for almost 30 yrs. I was living what most people call the dream, but a dream is not reality.
"There is no point in discussing this with you - you have voluntarily self deluded" No, I was in the dark and came out to the light.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
@TMeerkat8 The fact that you do not need Jesus to live a life of love or that you don’t need religion to know God doesn’t change the fact they are crucial to attain those goals. The fact that you don’t need a Sherpa to climb the Everest doesn’t change the fact that there's little chance you can get to the top without them. Religions are a spiritual guides not a restraining shirts. Religion is a tool not a goal. The goal is love and if you live in love you live in God.
dejesusluisx 3 months ago
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Actually the existence of God is NOT the best explanation to people who do what we in the real world call... LEARNING
That is only tghe best explanation to ignorant people.
Once you learn a few things about chemistry and cxosmology, you will soon realise just how poor the God idea sounds.
Once you learn how to open your eyes, god gets put further and further onto the back shelf.
FatRakoon 1 month ago
@FatRakoon Science vs religion is a false dichotomy. Mendel -father of Genetics, Lemaitre -physicist proponent of the BB, Copernicus, Ockham - Occam's razor, Mercally -creator of the earthquake scale, and over 200 scientists were Catholic priests. Many believers had embrace the scientific method to understand the world around us, and yet can discern there's a transcendent spirituality in all of us that science can't explain and only the knowledge and relationship with God can satisfy.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx god is the answer humans put at the end of a question until a scientists finds the correct one.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
@cavemantiger Even if that is true, doesn't mean God isn't real. Open your eyes...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
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@dejesusluisx Even if that is true, doesn't mean The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't real. Open your eyes...
Chelsea4President 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx My eyes are open. And I don't see any god.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
@cavemantiger The only way to know if there is a God is to look for it. You cannot look for it from a distance. To start looking you need to let go the things that won’t let you open your eyes to look. Everyone has them, some have wealth, power, hate, revenge, a big ego, or maybe skepticism (sounds familiar? that was mine too). If you hold on to those earthly “anchors”, you won’t start. I know you want to know the truth, otherwise why would you be wasting your time here?
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx I don't want what i already have. Why can't you listen to reason?
Lets take this on a new note. Why do YOU believe there is a God?
cavemantiger 1 month ago
@cavemantiger ""I don't want what i already have"" then what are you doing looking for atheists videos? searching for reasons not to believe? to sustain your faith in nothingness? I already told why I believe, I was a non-believer and found the truth.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Dont say ¨I found the truth¨ because noone knows if he exist or not, a massive claim needs massives amounts of evidence, The Fred Hoyle´s calculations are a fallacy, Evolution is a fact and even disproving it will not prove god, Is true some of them favors creation, even though they are not prove of it.
TheWesmaister 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister ""noone knows if he exist or not"" probably no atheist you mean, I know God exists, I have received manifestations, visions and revelations that confirms it. You can know this reality too if you care to look for it, if you open your mind to the possibility.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx If you are hallucinating you should see a doctor.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
@cavemantiger Hallucinations don't show in scientific papers you can confirm.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx What are these so called "manifestations?" Because if you are seeing some old guy, you are hallucinating and are likely mentally ill. If you are hearing voices you are probably going schizo. Or, life could be happening to you like it always does and now you just make false attributions to something that isn't there. Religion IS a tool, but for no other purpose than for man to control his fellow man. Nothing else.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
@cavemantiger The manifestations are personal, only I can understand them, and you can have them too if you decide to open your eyes and look for God honestly and sincerely.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Why would I want to look for lies and delusions? Much less ones that represent a masochistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, vain, prideful, ignorant, deceitful, murderous and evil christian god?
cavemantiger 1 month ago
@cavemantiger You are refering to man made dogmas, God is a divine conscious energy that lives in you, search inside of you first, pray and meditate and you'll be rewarded.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx No, THAT is a man made dogma. everything I described is in the bible. and if the bible is nothing but man made dogma, you have no reason to believe in a christian god.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
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@cavemantiger ""you have no reason to believe in a christian god"" I have many reasons to believe in God, but not in labels, labels are man made, God never wanted them, He didn't even wanted to be named.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx I have more evidence that the swedish god Odin is more real than your christian god.
Odin said he would rid the land of super ice giants forever.
I have yet to see an ice giant anywhere, looks like Odin did it
KyuubiNaruto1337XD 1 month ago 30
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD People throughout the ages have been confused about God and had created weird dogmas to describe Him. There's only one God, one Divine Consciousness, one conscious energy that created the universe with many names and dogmas created by men over many centuries in our desire to understand His essence. Dogmas might be real or not, but God is real, and to understand that reality you need to be in tune w/ Him. We separate from God if we worship the wrong idea
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Not only that, but you have displayed that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what science is and how it works, demonstrated by your continued use of the word proof. If you had even a basic understanding of science, it should have been ingrained in your feeble mind that science doesn't deal with proof. Proof is for mathematics and alcohol. You sir, are an idiot.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy you have nothing to say regarding the arguments and are looking for some straw man, sorry, stick to the rebuttal of the arguments.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
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@dejesusluisx "you have nothing to say"
Said the mental midget with absolutely nothing coherent to say.
"stick to the rebuttal of the arguments"
I've been waiting all this time for you to actually produce one. All you've done so far is post a silly list and some garbled nonsense about god and string theory which makes absolutely zero sense to even those with a limited intellect. Maybe you should wear a helmet when you go outside to avoid further brain damage. ;)
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx You forgot to answer my question. How does one fracture an aneurism?
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy by getting HBP from a insurmountable effort.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Wow, right over your head. Anyways, I guess I will have to spell this out for you. An aneurism is not a bone, you daft fucking moron, and thus there is no way to fracture it. You are honestly one of the dumbest charlatans I've ever encountered.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy bones are not the only things that fracture.
Fracture: 1. the result of fracturing : break
2.a. the act or process of breaking or the state of being broken; especially : the breaking of hard tissue (as bone)
b : the rupture (as by tearing) of soft tissue (kidney fracture)
Merriam-Webster
I was referring to 2b. My goodness kid, you will fail horribly your SAT.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
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@dejesusluisx "bones are not the only things that fracture.
Fracture: 1. the result of fracturing : break
2.a. the act or process of breaking or the state of being broken; especially : the breaking of hard tissue (as bone)
b : the rupture (as by tearing) of soft tissue (kidney fracture)
I was referring to 2b."
Wow, you have more brain damage than I gave you credit for! Saying you can fracture an aneurism is like saying you can fracture a heart attack or a stroke.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Oxford definition of the word aneurism:
'an excessive localized enlargement of an artery caused by a weakening of the artery wall.'
I should be charging you for these lessons! LOL Seriously though, you might want to think before you post next time. ;)
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy I know what an aneurism is but you obviously didn't know what's a fracture, how old are you? 12?
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx "I know what an aneurism is"
You obviously don't. By definition, an aneurism ISN'T soft tissue that you can fracture, it's 'an excessive localized ENLARGEMENT OF AN ARTERY CAUSED BY A WEAKENING OF THE ARTERY WALL'. In other words, it's something that happens, it's not a body part you fucking daft moron! You are so fucking thick, I have a hard time believing you can tie your own shoes without assistance. You FAIL....AGAIN! LOL
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy Even after reading the definition, you still don't know what it is, I guess you can expect anything from a junior high troll...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx "Even after reading the definition, you still don't know what it is"
LMAO!! Wow, you are terminally stupid! Find me even one paper in the medical literature that talks about aneurism fractures. Just one. The only thing is, you can't because you can't fracture a fucking aneurism, dumbass!
"Even after reading the definition, you still don't know what it is"
Said the brain damaged teenage troll still living in his parents' basement. LOL You fail at life.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy projecting...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx LOL More nonsensical drivel. You've made it quite obvious that you have no interest in exchanging ideas and that your primary interest is in trolling atheists with your idiotic rants. By the way, how's that search going for medical literature detailing aneurism fractures, imbecile?
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy If you look at the definition of fracture from Merriam-Webster, they have an example of kidney fracture. Now go and search the definition of kidneys to see if they are bones... of all the clueless trolls I've encountered, you take the price!!!
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
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@dejesusluisx "If you look at the definition of fracture from Merriam-Webster, they have an example of kidney fracture."
What's your point, Simple Jack? I never said fractures were exclusive to bones you fucking retarded jackass. It doesn't even matter though, because as I explained to you previously, an aneurism IS NOT A BODY PART. God you are thick! LOL
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx "Now go and search the definition of kidneys to see if they are bones"
Hahahaha, put down the crack pipe, Simple Jack. That makes zero sense.
"of all the clueless trolls I've encountered, you take the price!!!"
LOL! I take the....price? Bahahaha. Yet another incoherent sentence that doesn't make any sense. Keep it up, Simple Jack! Can't wait to see what illogical drivel you come up with next.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy Did your PS3 fractured? Go and watch some MTV kid and leave these sites to adults...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Hahaha, I love how mad you're getting, Simple Jack! You went full retard!
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx "Did your PS3 fractured?"
Yet another incoherent statement proving you have significant brain damage. The correct statement would be "Did your PS3 fracture?" That was another free English lesson. You should be grateful I'm not charging you anything, Simple Jack. LOL
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
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@dejesusluisx "Go and watch some MTV kid and leave these sites to adults..."
I have a hard time believing you're an adult given that you don't even know what an aneurism is and that you think you can somehow fracture it. LOL
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx "My goodness kid, you will fail horribly your SAT."
LOL If anyone's the 'kid' here, it's you with your silly, feeble mind and profound lack of even basic common knowledge. How old are you, 6?
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Furthermore, have you ever passed a test in your life? Still living in your parent's basement, e-tard?
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy I just did, have a nice life.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Just looking at the top comments, you can see that I'm not the only one that thinks you're a brain-dead troll. At least 14 other people think you are, and that's not including all the other comments directed at you from others. If it quacks like a duck....
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy I didn't expect much from atheists anyways... for entities that have a consciousness solely driven by instincts, being able to exchange ideas is an improvement.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx You're really a glutton for punishment, aren't you? Ah well, you keep posting and I'll keep making you look foolish again and again, although you do a marvelous job of that yourself. Bravo!
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy in your dream...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Speaking of clueless trolls!
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD convinces me I'm an Odinist now :D
shedininja001 2 weeks ago
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD Haha speaking of Odin, lets match Odin’s son Thor vs Jesus.
Jesus – Mortal demigod who was beaten, nailed to a cross died and became a zombie.
Thor- God of Thunder wields a mighty hammer.
Any questions?
1NWOMD 6 days ago
@dejesusluisx Prove it.
MrPianoJames 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx
"You can know this reality too if you care to look for it, if you open your mind to the possibility."
Wrong. Many atheists used to be devout Christians/Muslims/whatever. Stop assuming that we're simply "not trying" or that we have a "closed mind".
The reason that I personally am an atheist, is that throughout my entire life I NEVER experienced ANYTHING remotely supernatural, no matter how hard I prayed or how devout I was.
VectorMatt 1 month ago
@VectorMatt I was a devout Christian once.
Then I thought about what the Bible said.
yerfdog1935 1 month ago
@yerfdog1935 The Bible was written by men. It has to be interpreted.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@VectorMatt ""Stop assuming that we're simply "not trying" or that we have a "closed mind"."" I'm talking about my own experience as a non-believer... if you don't believe is because you haven't tried honestly and sincerely, because you have earthly anchors you haven't got rid of, like skepticism, ego, materialism, etc. If you don't lift those anchors, you won't sail...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx You know that personal experience is not evidence for god, Yes it justifies your belief but is doesnt prove that god exist, I have been a christian for 21 years, Dont tell me I dont tried.
TheWesmaister 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister If those where the first 21 yrs of your life, your story is similar to mine. I became a non-believer around that age, mainly due to the science knowledge I acquired at college. I was a non-believer for more than 25 yrs, but someone told me not to close my mind to the possibility and keep praying. When God thought I was ready, He send me the most compelling messages and evidence, tailor made to answer all my doubts. It was as if I can suddenly see the road far ahead
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx I am not close minded, Close minded means that you dont consider new ideas, I consider the possibility of a god but since there is no objective factual evidence of it is just a possibility, Sorry for my not so good english, I am not from an english speaking country.
TheWesmaister 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister ""I consider the possibility of a god"" How? are you praying? what is your sense of urgency? keep in mind if that possibility is actually real, you eternal life depends on it.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx No I dont do that anymore, By considering the possibility of a god(s) I wanted to say that I dont deny the possibility of his existance but I dont believe one exist neither, I dont know if a god(s) exist, I dont believe in souls nor afterlife.
TheWesmaister 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister ""No I dont do that anymore"" Why not?
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Why would I pray to something I dont believe exist?
TheWesmaister 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister I did, and I prayed to Him with all my doubts upfront and asked for enlightenment and understanding.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx I did that too, years ago, but since I didnt get an answer and there is no evidence for his existance I have no reason why to believe.
TheWesmaister 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister God answer is subtle since He can't be obvious or free will would be gone.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
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Just like how in Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy god can be proven not to exist because of the babel-fish. Since it's a fish that can't exist by chance (what about genetic engineering?), and since it had to be created, and god can only exist upon by having faith in him, proof that he exists thus invalidates his existence, thus he vanishes in a puff of logic.
Numinous123 1 month ago in playlist Crazy Beliefs, Miracles, and The Supernatural
@Numinous123 You're as clueless about cosmology and science as you are about logic.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister There's plenty of scientific evidence that favors the existence of a force directing the universe than it coming into existence out of randomness. Here are a few:
1.The Penrose calculations
2.Fred Hoyle calculations
3.The string theory landscape model
4.The BB model for the beginning of the universe
5.The definition of energy
6. The existence of a self programming brain
All points towards a conscious force rather than pure chance.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Utter horseshit.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago in playlist Crazy Beliefs, Miracles, and The Supernatural
@Stringprodigy Obviously you don't understand those arguments
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx I sure do. What's obvious is that you are an intellectual midget to present such ridiculous creationist canards. You clearly don't even understand them yourself.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx If you understand these "arguments" *chuckle*, then you should be able to elaborate on and substantiate them. If you're up to the challenge, prepare to have your forthcoming nonsense thoroughly eviscerated by someone who has, unlike yourself, much more than a primary school education.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy ""prepare to have your forthcoming nonsense thoroughly eviscerated"" you got lost in the first sentence of the first one, the only thing you'll eviscerate if you continue with arguing with me is your brain.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
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@dejesusluisx "you got lost in the first sentence of the first one, the only thing you'll eviscerate if you continue with arguing with me is your brain."
Ahahahahaha!!! What a lame comeback. All you've shown is that you are incapable of intellectually defending your silly ideas. Don't you think it's ironic that one of the biggest proponents of string theory, Leonard Susskind, does not believe in god and that no proponents of string theory use it to prove or disprove god?
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx
String theory does NOT, in any way, point towards a conscious force running the universe. You completely made that up.
Self programming brain? If you're referring to instinct instilled in us though the evolutionary process... once again... no god involved.
Definition of Energy? Once again... You're a lying buffoon.
You do realize that people can look all that up in just a few moments? Why would you even bother telling such idiotic lies? How clueless are you?
Numinous123 1 month ago in playlist Crazy Beliefs, Miracles, and The Supernatural 11
@Numinous123 The string theory landscape postulates there must be at least 10^520 universes to make our existence plausible. God can't be disproved even if you see a trillion universes pup-up every second since the BB until this day for every atom of matter in the universe. That's about 10^110 and you need about 10^520. Not even the existence of a second universe had been proven, so to say we are the product of chance is absurd. Science makes God more plausible today than ever
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx "The string theory landscape postulates there must be at least 10^520 universes to make our existence plausible. God can't be disproved even if you see a trillion universes pup-up every second since the BB until this day for every atom of matter in the universe. That's about 10^110 and you need about 10^520."
LOL!!! What an absurd pile of unintelligible bullshit! You are hardly in any position to scold ANYONE for being clueless about cosmology, science, and logic.
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
@Stringprodigy Obviously my posts are too much for your intellectual level, sorry, I hope you didn't fractured an aneurism...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
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@dejesusluisx "Obviously my posts are too much for your intellectual level"
So not only are you delusional and mentally crippled, but you are also a narcissist. Got it!
"I hope you didn't fractured an aneurism"
LMAO! This makes no sense whatsoever, but for pure entertainment value, how exactly would one fracture an aneurism, Simple Jack?
Stringprodigy 1 month ago
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@Numinous123 All things in the universe consists of matter or energy, so if God isn't matter, is energy by definition. Energy is capacity to do work, is eternal, omnipresent, can't be created or destroyed, can create matter, was the only thing present before the BB, and the energy required to make the universe must had been powerful. All these match Biblical descriptions of God. God matter creating abilities were defined before energy's. Energy confirms is plausible God exists
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx i love how you start with a presupposition then try to shoehorn anything you can find to validate it. "pure chance" go read some more bias christian articles by some bullshit christian "scientists" you twit.
skippydeenice 1 month ago
@skippydeenice read my previous posts, maybe you can learn something...
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx learn how to be an ignorant fool? no thanks, i'll leave that to the religious.
skippydeenice 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Do you go to church? Do you pray? How is it any different?
And you still haven't answered me. Why do you believe in god?
cavemantiger 1 month ago
@cavemantiger I do, but religion is a tool not a goal. The goal is being in tune with God's wavelength, to live in grace.
As I said, I don't "believe" God exists, I "know" God exists, I have received manifestations, visions and revelations that confirms it.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx Are you a theist? I dont say god isnt real, But we have no reason to think he is, I am an atheist.
TheWesmaister 1 month ago
@TheWesmaister There's plenty of scientific evidence that favors the existence of a force directing the universe than it coming into existence out of nothing. Here are a few:
1.The Penrose calculations
2.Fred Hoyle calculations
3.The string theory landscape model
4.The BB model for the beginning of the universe
5.The definition of energy
6. The existence of a self programming brain
All points towards a conscious force rather than pure chance. If you're unfamiliar, I can explain
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
In the USA alone by comparison, infinitely MORE atheists have actually READ the Bible, than Christians. Atheists actually HAVE arguments in support of their views, while Christians don't. Atheists are intelligent and educated, while most Christians are not. A typical Christian's respond to rejection of and the question why they believe the Bible? "Because the Bible says so."
Those are facts, not opinions. Sadly, Christians don't put much faith in facts, they prefer fairy tales and lies.
Chelsea4President 4 months ago 38
@Chelsea4President Infinitely more? there are a finite number of people.
Not all atheists are well educated etc, even in the US. Look at the race realists for example. However, your general point stands I think. :)
gleehmee 3 months ago
@gleehmee How about A LOT MORE? Athists as a group have higher IQ and MUCH HIGHER knowledge about religion, Christian and others. There are some stupid atheists (with low IQ), but there are a lot more stupid Christians. That's a scientific fact, not an opinion. If you deny all of that, then you're simply dishonest.
Chelsea4President 3 months ago
@Chelsea4President scientific fact? what the hell is wrong with you?
A statistical fact perhaps. An objective fact maybe. A scientific fact? show me the study!
Don't cheapen the term 'science' just to make a point. Proportionately it's about the same.
Also: IQ is not an accurate measure of things, it only applies to specific ways of thinking.
There are a lot more theists than atheists in the world THAT is a fact, so obviously there will be stupid among them, but there are many smart ones.
gleehmee 3 months ago
@gleehmee Atheists are SMARTER and know the Bible BETTER than "Christians", particularly "evangelicals", who on average did POORLY on a basic Bible test.
Sorry that this makes you mad. To claim otherwise just shows you simply know VERY LITTLE.
Did you know that the worst statistics for teen pregnancies AND abortions are BOTH in the "Bible Belt" area ? The most porn customers live in Utah. IQ's drop as you go SOUTH. Do you deny that?
Most idiots are evangelical Christians. Sad. Still true.
Chelsea4President 3 months ago
@Chelsea4President USA specifically, your abortion and teen pregnacy statistics are accurate, I don't see how porn matters to this though.
I reject your comments on IQ because IQ only mearsues specific parts of thought. It does not measure things like social skills, empathy, language abilities, artistic thoughts, creativity, etc, all of which are nessissary in modern society.
Please stop generalising, as if you're trying to attack christians, evangelicals arn't even the majority of them.
gleehmee 3 months ago
@gleehmee wrote: "I reject your comments on IQ because IQ only mearsues specific parts of thought. It does not measure things like social skills, empathy, language abilities, artistic thoughts, creativity, etc, all of which are nessissary in modern society."
Now the right wing Kool-Aiddrinkers are singing the praises of having a LOW IQ as something that "don't matter anyway".
Keep it up! Make everybody believe that profound flaws are beneficial and being a loser makes you a winner. YEEHAAWW!
Chelsea4President 3 months ago
@Chelsea4President Nice strawman. My initial comment to you was just correcting you only the "infinitely" statement, which is total nonsense given there are a finite number of people. From there you've gone on to demonstrate you're just bigoted against christians.
Some christians just havn't thought in depth about that specific area of their life, that does not make them stupid. Watch THIS SHOW more.
gleehmee 3 months ago
@gleehmee Yes, FACTS are always "strawmen". Truth is always lies. Here's the easy formula to use if you have no actual arguents: Just say NO and claim your opponent is the one with all of the flaws and failures attributed to YOU.
I know. It's a horrible feeling to be small and insificant. Why not simply claim that that's waht makes you big and superior.
You've learned your lessons very well. You've mastered turning shit into chocolate mousse. Remaining problem: Nobody wants any, so EAT UP!
Chelsea4President 3 months ago
@Chelsea4President No, mischaracterising my position is a strawman. You're posting the occasional fact but your main point is just wrong by this time. In your original post you were nearly right but exaggerating, but now you've shown your hand and it's a very bad hand. A bigotted hand.
As I said, watch THIS SHOW more, they covered these points far better than I in this very episode.
Your argument has been "other people are stupid, therefore I am right", which is not a good argument.
gleehmee 3 months ago